Keeping It Real with Jac and Ral

"Follow your passion." Sounds inspiring, right? Wrong. Jac and Ral reckon this might be the worst career advice and they're not sorry about it. In this episode, they unpack why passion is wildly overrated as a career compass, what mastery has to do with it, and tackle the two big questions: What's the difference between loving your job and being passionate about it? What happens when you turn your passion into your job and then hate it? Find out why following your talent is smarter, why it makes sense to put the hours in, and like what you do and keep the passion for… other things----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Find out why cancelling this one thing as a leader loses you the most money… In this episode Jac & Ral dive deep into a massive blind spot for many leaders: the appreciation gap. While nearly 60% of managers believe they regularly recognise their team, just over a third of employees say they actually receive that recognition. Ral and Jack unpack why traditional leadership styles have taught people with power to express gratitude less, and why treating great work as "just doing their job" is a fast track to losing your best people.  And since talent is an organisation's ultimate competitive advantage, leading with genuine gratitude isn't a "soft skill" - it's the way to win! And make you and your company $$$----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Feeling tension, friction, or total exhaustion at work, but can't quite put your finger on why? It might not be the workload… it might be a misalignment of values. In this episode of Keeping it Real, Jac and Ral tackle the real culprit behind career unhappiness, when your personal values clash with your job, your leadership, or even your clients. Sharing raw, firsthand experiences, they break down why staying in a role just for the money isn't sustainable and how knowing your core values is the ultimate career cheat code. Ral shares why she walked away from a highly lucrative opportunity with the tobacco industry and Jac breaks down a coaching session with a high-earning executive eyeing a role in the gambling industry, using a simple social scenario to expose severe values misalignment.  Stop grinding in silence and start aligning your work with who you actually are.Values and actions assessment:https://www.viacharacter.org/----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Oh, the joy. Your work bestie - the same one you shared eye-rolls with in the Monday morning status update, just got promoted. And yes, they are now your boss. Deep breaths… Jac and Ral are here to save your career (and your sanity). In this episode, we tackle the awkward, ego-bruising reality of what happens when a peer becomes your manager. What we unpack:For you: How to congratulate your colleague without visibly choking, setting boundaries so you aren't expecting "inside gossip" at lunch, and avoiding the urge to undermine their new authority.For them: How to step into leadership without turning into an overnight dictator or playing favourites with the old lunchtime crew. Whether you're the one stepping up or the one stepping back to let them lead, it's time to put the 'intelligence' back in emotional intelligence.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In a world rapidly dominated by technology and AI prompts, how do you actually stand out? It's getting better at being human. In this episode we dive into the newly developed Future Fluency Index to explore the single biggest blind spot in corporate AI adoption: how we activate human potential in an alien world. We unpack why "decision integrity" and "moral courage" are the ultimate modern leadership KPIs, how peak physical performance impacts your clarity, and why emotional intelligence remains your greatest competitive advantage over any algorithm.  Whether you are leading a team or navigating your own career, it's time to stop worrying about artificial intelligence and start dialling up your human intelligence. Surely you haven't forgotten how to do that??----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

The Enhanced Games begin this week, so to mark the moment we're revisiting Ral's fascinating conversation with Aron D'Souza — the man taking on the Olympic establishment.In this bonus rerelease, Aron explains why he believes the current system is broken, why banning performance enhancement is hypocritical, and why the Enhanced Games could completely redefine elite sport, human performance, and even longevity itself.Love it or hate it, this conversation will challenge what you think you know about fairness, sport, and the future of the human body.Is this the future… or pure madness?----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Running around like a headless chicken doesn't make you a better leader, it just makes everyone else dizzy. In this episode, Jac and Ral get brutally honest about the ultimate leadership superpower: absolute calm in the absolute chaos. They dive deep into why your team doesn't need a stressed-out "saviour"- they need a steady anchor. We're breaking down how to stop absorbing everyone else's panic, how to reframe your boundaries so you actually have a life and why letting go of the 16-hour grind is the best commercial decision you'll ever make. We also introduce the magic of the three-second pause (the ultimate tool for looking like the smartest person in the room) and map out how to shift from a "doer" who executes to a "visionary" who strategises. If you're ready to stop trading your sanity for success and start measuring your worth by your impact, not your exhaustion, this one is for you.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Hoping your hard work will be noticed, appreciated and rewarded? Unlikely to happen. In this episode Jac & Ral break down one of the biggest myths in your career - the belief that great work speaks for itself.If you want to step into your next promotion, lead with authority, or simply get the recognition you deserve, you have to become your own best advocate.We share practical ways to intentionally highlight your successes and contributions to managers and leadership with authenticity. How to actively share project outcomes, speak up in critical meetings, and network with intent.So stop waiting for someone else to notice. It's time to find your voice, take control of your narrative, and make sure your impact is felt.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In this latest episode Jac & Ral teach you how to humanise your application to stand out from the sea of AI-generated, generic slop. The cover letter shouldn't be a summary of your CV; it's the bridge that gets you an interview to see if the role is a "fit for both of us".They also introduce you to a cool framework they developed called PROVE – and the key things NOT to do when you create your cover letter, for example don't make your letter about you… what?? Listen in to find out what they mean by this!Fun Fact from the Episode: Jac once got a job by couriering an actual suit to an agency with her CV in the pocket because they advertised for a "suit" (account manager). Bold moves get interviews! New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Is your CV putting recruiters to sleep? Has AI made your resume so polished and generic it's practically invisible?In a follow-up to "The CV is Dead" episode, Jac and Ral deliver the 8-step formula to craft a future-focused, value-demonstrating document that increases your chance to land the interview.They go deep on how to build a killer resume by:•     Ditching the boring, chronological job list for a compelling positioning statement.•     Using the essential S-A-O-V structure (Situation, Action, Outcome, Value) for your high-impact statements.•     Keeping it short - two pages! And learn why your human voice is now your greatest competitive edge.(Psst: Want the template for our Portfolio of Impact? Check out our Patreon)

“This is a disaster.” “It's a train wreck.” “It's all falling apart.”…or is it? This week we call out one of the biggest credibility killers at work: catastrophising, because somewhere along the way, being dramatic became a badge of honour. We unpack why smart leaders default to using dramatic language and what it's actually costing you… your brand, your team, and your ability to lead when it matters. We discuss how to swap drama for data, teach you about a “language audit” and how to sound like a leader people trust, not one they need to calm down! Because the best leaders don't amplify chaos. They regulate it.Support us: patreon.com/KeepingitRealwithJacandRalNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Time to hold up a mirror Keepers! Because we judge ourselves by our intentions and we judge others by their behaviour… we are good at making assumptions of others. This plays out at work regularly.In this episode we call it out, we talk about how and why it happens but importantly, we share how to navigate conflict with Ral sharing an awesome tip. She's the mistress of not being judgey judgey and remaining cool under pressure vs judging others for their behaviour!New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Slaying and serving Unc! We have learned some new words thanks to some Gen Z's we've been quizzing. But the actual truth of the matter is, we have learned something we already knew… New generations hate corporate jargon. Let's just call it… ALL generations hate corporate jargon – it is exclusionary and often confuses, not clarifies. In this latest episode Jac & Ral share what they have learned, why it makes sense to speak simply and clearly (and why people don't!) and how you can lift your communications in the workplace to a better level.New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

We are all drinking the kool “ai”d but like all new tech, there is a risk with artificial intelligence when it comes to your career… In this episode Jac & Ral talk about what they are seeing with their clients and what they are experiencing personally with AI – yes we are all now capable of producing more and we are doing it faster but in the flurry of efficiency we are all thinking less. And this is a problem. Find out why outsourcing your early, messy thinking entirely is a big mistake and why properly reading things will become the new vogue.New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

2026 will reward the brave, the adaptable and the strategically future-fluent. So, are you ready?? Jac has 6 predictions for our careers this year based on what she is seeing, coaching, researching and hearing from successful contemporary leaders. Ral reckons she's on the money with these predictions and shares her experience and observations. Whether you believe them or not, Jac & Ral are convinced on one thing… the future is bright for those who unlearn and adapt to what is a rapidly changing workplace!

Inspired by this year's International Women's Day campaign, Jac & Ral discuss a different slant on Give to Gain… Because women already give so much! Start by thinking about your gain. Define it, understand what it is you will or will not gain from giving. Then think about your value. How much are you worth? We can tell you it's more than you think  Ral talks about pricing your value and shares a great story and Jac has a tip when it comes to pricing which you should start doing today. Enjoy Keepers!Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

She saw the future and she has made a damn fine career out of it! She also happens to be one of the leading experts on storytelling for business. That would be Ms Gabrielle Dolan! In this episode Jac interviews Ral to really get the low down on how to tell an effective story – what to do, what not to do and how AI can be your storytelling partner if you use it correctly. Jac & Ral share some great stories and specific examples of what you should can do to also become a storytelling legend.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

If you don't stop and smell the roses… you're missing an opportunity for power! Because what gets celebrated gets repeated. It builds momentum and reinforces behaviours. Are you recognising milestones and stopping to celebrate them? Jac & Ral share some great stories and a few specific examples of what you could be celebrating and why it will make a difference to your own career as well as those around you. …and Keeping it Real is celebrating 100 episodes, woo hoo!! Thank you for your support Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewHelp keep the show running:https://www.patreon.com/c/KeepingitRealwithJacandRalNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

They say if you want to predict the future, then create it. And that's exactly what Jac & Ral discuss in this episode. Both talk about how they created the futures they wanted – personally and professionally, sharing the barriers and the opportunities and what was the key to making it happen. An episode packed full of advice, inspiration and empowerment. There is nothing stopping you… your future is in your hands.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jachttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown 

Except “only just 1 drink!” but other than that, boundaries are the GOAT. In this episode Jac and Ral discuss boundaries, what they are, why they are critical to being successful and how to set them with purpose in mind. Jac asks Ral about her non-negotiables and Ral shares a fantastic process you can undertake immediately which will motivate you to move forward in setting your own boundaries.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Every leader, every board member, CEO, founder, executive has f**ked up. Badly. Repeatedly. Publicly. Quietly. Expensively. In this episode Jac & Ral share their own right royal f**k ups and what happened next… Ral also tells us about some very well known, senior leaders and their mistakes – most worked out well and ALL learned so much about themselves and their organisations. And Jac shares her four R's and the Keeping it Real theory called AIR when it comes to what to do the minute you f**k up.Find out more about our Finders Keepers Immersion:https://drive.google.com/file/d/1w1VOfNoYWmNY-6iGjFmKt7zf-NqszrT6/viewNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

….And we're back baby! With a doozy first episode because careers in 2026 don't look like they used to.. and if yours feels flat, uncertain, or underpowered, it's not because you're failing. It's because the rules have changed.In this first episode of the new year we share why 2026 is not about climbing harder, it's about thinking differently.Jac shares the 5 key things you need to rethink, do and stop doing - if you want a career that actually works for you. No career ladders. No platitudes. Just real conversation, practical insights and some sharp questions from Ral to help you fire up your career for what's next.Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Hope you enjoyed that snippet of one of our Patreon masterclasses hosted by Gabrielle Dolan. There's never been a better time to join as a member on Patreon - over the next month we are uploading 6 masterclasses, usually valued at $500+Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Hope you enjoyed that snippet of one of our Patreon masterclasses hosted by Gabrielle Dolan. There's never been a better time to join as a member on Patreon - over the next month we are uploading 6 masterclasses, usually valued at $500+Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Our final episode of the year, and Ral takes us through the year that was.So many things happened in 2025… what do you remember? And what did you not even know??Listen in to our 95th episode and final one for this year – thank you for all your support Keepers, we can't wait to return in 2026 with many more stories, laughs and lots of learnings.Merry Christmas!---Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

A Storyteller and a Leadership Coach walk into a bar… literally! In this episode, recorded in a Melbourne bar with a live audience, Jac sits down with Ral to unpack her latest book, Story Intelligence: The Craft of Authentic Storytelling Made Smarter with AI.Together they explore why storytelling remains one of the most powerful leadership tools and how AI is elevating it in ways we've never seen before.Ral introduces SQ (Story Intelligence) – a bold new concept she's determined to see in the dictionary and reveals how leaders, creators and everyday humans can use SQ to communicate with clarity, authenticity and influence.This is storytelling for a new era: real, relevant and reimagined. A big thank you to all the Keepers who joined us at this live recording.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Offsites should be the most energising day in your team's year…So why do so many feel like a hostage situation with pastries?In this episode, Jac & Ral break down exactly what makes an offsite brilliant, memorable and commercially valuable - not just another day of a stuffy room, bad slides, beige thinking and forced fun.You'll learn:The 5 elements every high-impact 2026 offsite must includeHow to design an agenda that wakes people up (literally and mentally)Simple ways to link your offsite to real business outcomesFresh ideas to inspire, align and fire up your people for the year aheadAnd the common mistakes leaders make that drain energy and kills momentum If you want your next offsite to spark clarity, creativity, connection and actual behaviour change, this is the episode.Because teams don't remember PowerPoints.They remember how the day made them think, feel and act.----Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Imagine being 26 and creating an app that's redefining how the world runs. Louis Phillips is the co-founder and CEO of INTVL, a fitness and running platform that's exploded globally, not just because of the tech… but because of how he tells the story.In this episode, we're picking Louis's brain on what every leader can learn from a generation that builds community, not just campaigns… and knows how to make digital content feel human.Listen to learn a number of gems you can apply to your workplace and find out what keeps Louie real!Get INVTL: https://www.intvl.com.au/Follow Louis: https://www.instagram.com/louisphillips12/Follow On it Off it: https://open.spotify.com/show/34NH08Hgi5rjlgXKxjVbv4---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Emotional intelligence used to be call soft skills, however the future just made EI the power skills.As AI gets smarter, the leaders who can sense emotion, read the room, and stay regulated under pressure will be the ones still standing. Tech will expose emotional blind spots faster than you can say “feedback” the question is, will we use it to connect and influence… or to manipulate?In this episode, Jac & Ral dive into the future of EQ: boundaried empathy (caring without carrying everything), emotionally intelligent organisations (not just leaders), and why EQ + adaptability is the new leadership currency.If you think emotional intelligence is fluffy, you're already behind. It's time to learn more or get automated out of relevance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Emotional intelligence used to be call soft skills, however the future just made EI the power skills.As AI gets smarter, the leaders who can sense emotion, read the room, and stay regulated under pressure will be the ones still standing. Tech will expose emotional blind spots faster than you can say “feedback” the question is, will we use it to connect and influence… or to manipulate?In this episode, Jac & Ral dive into the future of EQ: boundaried empathy (caring without carrying everything), emotionally intelligent organisations (not just leaders), and why EQ + adaptability is the new leadership currency.If you think emotional intelligence is fluffy, you're already behind. It's time to learn more or get automated out of relevance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you ever been asked what your leadership style is? And were you clear, confident and articulate in your response? Most of us either don't know it, or if we do, don't communicate it well.In this episode, Jac and Ral discuss the 10 traditional leader styles – what we think is relevant for today and what we think isn't. Ral even comes up with a new style (watch this one take off!) and Jac shares 3 new leader archetypes for those leaders who need to be future focused… which is all of us!Enjoy.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In this episode, Jac and Ral explore the concept of “leading from the side” - a leadership stance that sits between the traditional command-and-control approach and servant leadership (leading from behind).What organisations need today is less about the single strong person out front giving all the orders, and less about the heroic self-effacing leader in the background, and more about someone who positions themselves alongside their teams enabling, supporting, influencing and co-creating rather than simply directing.Listen in for practical tips on how to build real relationships, ask powerful questions, delegate ownership, and celebrate small moves in that collaborative direction.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

So instead of breaking bad… we're Breaking Good! In this latest episode, Ral opens up about a recent health scare that became the catalyst for big, positive change.This isn't her first rodeo, she knew for awhile she wasn't at peak performance, her Oura ring told her… daily. Jac suggested throwing the ring away but Ral's smart, she took responsibility and shares how she created a new healthier habit - and the reason it was easier this time by getting crystal clear on her why.Together, Jac and Ral unpack how to use “Breaking Good” moments to create healthier habits, find motivation that lasts, and build a life that feels good from the inside out. ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We are all chasing a good life, a happy life and a meaningful life, but recent research claims we should be chasing a psychological rich life… what is that?A psychological rich life is marked by novel experiences, perspective sharing insights and complexity. This type of life has more discomfort than a happy or meaningful life and asks us to leave our comfort zones and be open to changing our minds, so we get to experience a much richer more reflective life.It's all about your life journey and your accumulation of rich experiences, which won't always be joyful. Jac challenges you to embrace the challenging, the complex, the uncomfortable and Ral shares one such holiday which was exactly that! She also wants to know what happens when you eat asparagus??Enjoy this psychologically rich episode!---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Following on from last week's interview with Layne Beachley, in part 2 Ral digs deeper and finds out more about what drives the very healthy and humble Layne, when she knew it was time to stop chasing waves for competition and some very funny stories about marrying a rockstar, picking up litter and what keeps her real… the answer will surprise you! ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Resilience, courage and the power of positive mindset…Seven-time world surfing champ Layne Beachley can teach us how to achieve all three. She's a legend, driven by immense purpose and she keeps it real in this great part 1 interview with Ral.Hear Layne talk openly about the multiple times she thought of giving up, and how she used the lessons she's learned and applied these – mental fortitude, her ability to listen to her own body and intuition, her fear of success, her ignorance to her own fears and judgements and when she started taking personal accountability.If you're chasing success in your personal or professional life, don't miss part 1 of this inspiring interview with Layne and Ral.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

There are eight traits of high performance Jac has identified after coaching leaders across many different industries – these traits quietly separate the rockstars from the random…After discussing these last week, Jac & Ral went deep and both agreed it was worth doing so in order for our Keepers to get a great grasp on what can set them up for leadership performance success.Do you display the eight raw signals of true high performance?---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Aftercoaching leaders across industries, Jac has seen the patterns: there are a handful of traits that quietly separate the serious players from the seat-warmers. They're not buzzwords, they're behaviours. And when you spot them, you know you're dealing with someone operatingon a different level.In this episode of Keeping it Real, Jac & Ral unpack what those traits look like in action, without the fluff, without the clichés. Just the raw signals of true high performance.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We all see others with more… better careers, happier lives, stylish homes, perfectly behaved kids and we get envious. And we also know that to compare is crazy, because not everything is as it seems.Jac worked in private banking and saw the complexity of lots of wealth… the grief was greater than the joy! What you see on social media and hear from others isn't always the REAL deal.Ral shares a great learning from James Clear on the times comparison can be really valuable to you. Listen in to find out more. And always remember, the greatest gift that will bring you the most joy is choices

Some might say Jac is a failure when it comes to cake baking, and whilst Ral is one of Australia's leading storytellers for business, she's also been known to not fill a public workshop… is that a failure?In this episode we define failing as not having a go… to win, learn and evolve you need to make mistakes, because it's how you bounce back that matters.So how resilient are you when it comes to your ‘failings' – there are 3 levels to resilience and if you can master all 3, especially the ‘social level' then, like Jac & Ral, you will have no trouble at all embracing failing and failing fast! ---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Part 2 – Interview with Founder of Enhanced Games, Dr Aron D'Souza.Aron D'Souza says if we act with intentionality and have a good business plan, we can do anything. This is part 2 of a very inspiring conversation between Ral and Aron whose mission is dedicating his life to impacting and changing the human condition and creating the enhanced age. A new movement… We have seen artificial intelligence go from ‘quackery' (20 years ago) to being a scientific reality today. Listen in and find out what the next age of mankind will be and how technology and science will enhance the human condition and increase our longevity and wellness. And check out Jac & Ral's debrief at the end of this episode! Part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5QuHYNNZ0PwjcXjkSSIo4U?si=QqOJGHlIS228Jb9IF1tK-Q---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Five generations walk into a workplace… and no one can agree on how to send a meeting invite!From Boomers who still love a phone call, to Gen Z who think email is for “old people,” Jac & Ral dive into the hilarious, maddening, and surprisingly brilliant world of generational blind spots when it comes to cross-generational work.Expect a few stereotypes, a few truths, and a lot of “ohhh… that explains it!” moments. Do Jac & Ral have generational BS? You betcha! And what do you think of Ral's riddle??---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

This week, we flip the script on productivity. Forget your endless To Do list… what about your To Be list?In this episode, Jac & Ral explore how shifting focus from tasks to traits can change everything. Instead of just ticking off jobs, ask: Who do I want to be while I do these things? Calm? Curious? Brave? Generous?From leadership moments to everyday challenges, your To Be list reminds you that how you show up matters as much as what you get done. It's a powerful mindset shift that invites reflection, intentionality, and a deeper connection with your values. Nice one

What if doping wasn't banned… but embraced?In this unfiltered Part 1 interview, Ral sits down with the audacious founder of the Enhanced Games, Aron D'Souza, who's taking a sledgehammer to the Olympic establishment.He says the IOC is broken, outdated, and hypocritical and he's not here to play by their rules. Love it or loathe it, the Enhanced Games are real, rising, and ready to disrupt everything we thought we knew about elite sport and ultimately living longer and better!Listen in and decide for yourself: is this the future of human performance - or pure madness?---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonJoin us on our Finders Keepers Immersion in October:https://tinyurl.com/finderskeepersoctoberJames Magnussen Interview:https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WL8vhqMB4WA2wU4OQYM1K?si=zU8WVf4KTY-n8bOm6s786wNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you done a joy audit lately?How much of your week involves you laughing, loving and living a joyful life? Jac declares she's the queen of joy and Ral reveals a new thing she has started doing at home which brings her huge joy…In this episode, we share WHY you should schedule your joy – especially if you want sustainable performance, enhanced creativity and a broader perspective. Leaders who deliberately set their teams and environments up for joy are the leaders that get incremental value and retain great talent.There is so much joy to be had… listening to this episode is a great start

Being a very successful leader is…. Your ability to attract, retain and develop talent.Awesome talent multiplies impact, accelerates performance, and gives you the force multiplier effect. Is it easy to be a great leader? No. Is it easy to attract, retain and develop your talent? Absolutely not, but if you listen to this episode we will give you a competitive advantage and teach you our core formula which consists of 4 key things to ensure you win as a leader when it comes to hiring, coaching, developing and retaining top people.---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We start this episode with some sage advice from Ferris Beuller…                                                                                                                                      There tends to be two types of us in the world… Those who can actively listen and give you their full attention, also known as being fully present. And then there is the rest of us… always on, doing a million things, mind racing like a raccoon on meth! In this episode we talk about why it pays to be present and we share tips on how to become more present. We even make a couple of commitments to each other – find out what they are and you can play along at home---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

The biggest trap in life? Thinking your current path is the only path. In this episode we introduce you to the Odyssey Plan – a 20 minute personal exercise that encourages you to zoom out, ask yourself bigger questions to reveal 3 possible futures and forces you to confront what you really want. For Ral – her plan reveals less work and move over Ellen Degeneres!For Jac – linen and leather, Kenya and a few leopards  The Odyssey Plan shows you how many options you have and which ones are worth pursuing – get to it!---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Are your co-workers your mates? Do you love working with them? Have you stayed longer in a role that didn't serve you because of your coworkers? Yep, guilty.Have you been promoted and all of a sudden your great mate colleagues now report to you, and things feel different for them and for you? Have you left a role and promised a co-worker or direct report you will take them with you…? This topic is one that not only applies to your work mates, it can also apply to people outside of work, to running a business and clients not coming with you as you grow or change. This episode will make you think, and it will give you confidence and ideas on how to move forward and why sometimes it is really smart to leave others behind…---------------------------------------------------------Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Your support helps keep this show going — join us on Patreon.https://tinyurl.com/jacandralpatreonNew Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Do you stay “small” because of fear? Hold yourself back from doing ‘the thing'? Not meet the person. Avoid grasping the opportunity for fear of what might happen (negative) or what people might think? You're living a life in fear and that is a life half lived. In this episode Jac & Ral encourage you to try living a life of courage instead – don't wait for permission, validation or reassurance, take 1 small step and start taking Ral's 4 simple actions to make a change starting today. Jac shares a simple exercise for you to try – if that doesn't put courage in your life, nothing will. The question shouldn't be what if I fail, the question should be what if I fly?---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown