Keeping It Real with Jac and Ral

Do you stay “small” because of fear? Hold yourself back from doing ‘the thing'? Not meet the person. Avoid grasping the opportunity for fear of what might happen (negative) or what people might think? You're living a life in fear and that is a life half lived. In this episode Jac & Ral encourage you to try living a life of courage instead – don't wait for permission, validation or reassurance, take 1 small step and start taking Ral's 4 simple actions to make a change starting today. Jac shares a simple exercise for you to try – if that doesn't put courage in your life, nothing will. The question shouldn't be what if I fail, the question should be what if I fly?---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

How do you leave a job or a leader gracefully and graciously when it's been good to you, but you want to end it not for any negative reasons but because you have had enough, or you want a change or you get offered a better opportunity? Well, poor Dave got told it wasn't him, it was Ral… but as for Jac, she got told it wasn't her, it was him… but she did end up marrying him in the end! There are some good ways to leave the job, the leader, the lover and do it positively and leave a professional impression – you must start by being very clear on your reason for leaving (be honest) and then follow with…Listen in and take our advice, it will set you up awesmely!---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

If you're digging a hole in the wrong place, it doesn't matter how deep you've dug… it's still the wrong hole!This episode is all about continuing to stay on a course of action despite it being more beneficial to quit. You might try to rationalise the situation by saying since the spent cost can't be recovered, you might as well stay the course and/or allocate additional resources to try to make things work… however is that the right decision for you?? Jac & Ral both share examples of embracing sunk cost fallacy – and how to know when to hold them, how to know when to fold them and how to know when to walk away! Sing it out loud Kenny!! ---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Why stop at 1 goal when you can set more? This episode inspired by Maddy Phillips and the Boston marathon.We are talking about s-t-r-e-t-c-h goals. Ral says chin ups are her stretch goal, Jac thinks making it to Friday and a glass of wine is not just her weekly goal but a priority! It's all about mindset. It applies to your personal and professional life. So set yourself an A goal, a B goal and a C goal. Goal A is the ultimate! Flexibility is key – even if you don't achieve the A goal, getting to your B or C goals are still a win.  Standby for the chin ups goal being achieved by Ral!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Every single person has potential. Untapped. Ral reckons she's already exceeded hers, Jac reckons she's just warming up, so how doyou reach your potential? There are a few things you can do and we cover all of them and how they have applied to us or others we know. The trick is to be optimistic, open minded, to grow your self belief and to define what ‘failure' really means to you… Because not giving something a go is failure in our eyes! And for some shits & giggles listen to find out what a nun once told Ral about her potential…!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

What does processed cheese and saying sorry have in common? Both can be plastic… yep, not real! Nothing worse than someone who apologises but doesn't really believe they should or need or want to. We share a few doozies – some most recent. Don't be them. We also unpack how not to apologise, and if you need to apologise, how to do it with sincerity. …and then there are those who just apologise too much! Why this isn't a good idea when it comes to your personal brand. We are so not sorry to bring you this latest episode of keeping it realSorry not sorry video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcGKxLJ4ZGI ------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Hardest job in the world.No one prepares you for parenthood, and as two mothers with four kids between us we share some of the horrors we put our kids through… award winning events that will either horrify you or you'll find hilarious! Foot surgery, nasal surgery, cracked heads, left behind in shopping centers, kinder surprise trauma and much more! Jac and Ral keep it real when it comes to the balls ups they have clocked up as Mothers. But everyone is still alive today, so we reckon we have done alright  Find out what we have learned as Mums – empathy, emotional intelligence, time management, prioritisation and more. All of which can be very advantageous as a leader.  Give yourself a break Mums… we see you, we hear you and we never judge you. You do you. ------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Cindy Gallop likes to blow shit up. She's one of the most sassy, outspoken and well known experts in the advertising industry. A tireless supporter and fighter for women being promoted and paid as much as men in advertising, a brand and business innovator, consultant and speaker and more recently, founder & CEO of MakeLoveNotPorn - the world's first and only user-generated, human-curated social sex video sharing platform, socialising and normalising sex to make it easier for everyone to talk about, openly and honestly. In this very special episode, Jac asks Cindy why she's so passionate about a number of things, what really pisses her off, how she maintains the energy to continually fight for equality and diversity when it comes to equal pay, getting women promoted and funded.  Cindy shares why she's so confident and what we all need to do to grow our confidence, the sooner the better. Cindy Gallop very much epitomises keeping it real and we reckon she's a real keeper!Make Love Not Porn investment link: https://wefunder.com/makelovenotpornCindy's Linked In profile:https://www.linkedin.com/in/cindygallop?utm_source=share&utm_campaign=share_via&utm_content=profile&utm_medium=ios_appCindy's Advice on Women & Pay: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZSrcWxypY/ ------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In this very special episode Ral interviews Independent member of federal parliament, Dr Monique Ryan - someone who keeps it real every day. Learn what the power of people banding together (but not always agreeing or aligned!) achieves. And when it comes to creating positive outcomes, find out Mon's secret weapon and what Pressure not Power means. There were no Teals more than 3 years ago and then there were six! They appeared. And Mon didn't expect to find a group like this – great friends, who work hard together, who solve problems and also disagree, debate and challenge each other (you learn from each other she shares) but any debate is always done RESPECTFULLY (how refreshing, we have adults in the house!). Enjoy this vulnerable, insightful, intelligent and very REAL conversation with one of Australia's most impressive female leaders in parliament.------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Do you have more triggers than glimmers? Do you take note of when and why? In this episode we unpack these ‘new terms' that have become a thing thanks to our growing interest in psychology and mental health combined with social media. Jac and Ral talk about self awareness when it comes to triggers and glimmers and how you can use your growing awareness to leverage triggers and glimmers in your workplace – they can help your personal brand, improve your leadership andteam culture and most of all deepen your important relationships. And get ready to learn what really triggers Ral….!Enjoy Keepers!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In this episode Ral opens up about a recent health scare that forced her to hit pause and reflect deeply. She shares the confronting experience of undergoing tests, facing uncertainty, and the critical reminder it gave her, and now us, about the importance of regular health checks. Whether it's your breasts, skin, bowels, or beyond, this is your wake-up call to stop putting it off.Jac brings a powerful perspective, reminding us the average person only gets about4,000 weeks on this earth. That number hits differently when you realise how many of those weeks we spend unhappy, unwell, or just going through the motions.Together, Jac and Ral encourage you to not only prioritise your physical health, but your emotional well-being too. Book the holiday. Leave the toxic job. Walk away from the relationship that's draining you.This episode is a timely, honest reminder that while we can't control everything, we do have more power than we think in shaping a life that feels good, inside and out. Enjoy Keepers!------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Not all readers are leaders, but all leaders are readers.And thanks to tech today, you can also listen to a book if you're not a visual learner, including the 10 very favourite (so far) books we have loved and learned from over the years. Some books are oldies, others are very recent! To find out what titles we recommend (we brought different recommendations) and why, listen in. And here's where Jac & Ral align and here's where they are different in their favourite choices: Common GroundBig-Picture Thinkers – We are both drawn to books about vision, purpose, and legacy.Passion for Leadership & Performance – We both admire leadership principles that build long-lasting impact.Creativity & Innovation – We both value creativity, but we approach it in different ways. Key DifferencesRal is more emotionally intuitive & bold → She loves books that challenge conventional wisdom, celebrate creativity and emphasise human connection.Jac is more analytical & strategic → She loves books that explore cognitive biases, motivation, and long-term leadership.Ral is about storytelling & experience → Her books focus on sticky ideas, culture, and moments that matter.Jac is about psychology & purpose → Her books explorehow people think, what drives them, and how to lead for the long haul.Our Recommendations - Made to Stickhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Made-Stick-ideas-others-unstuck/dp/009950569X- Big Magichttps://www.amazon.com.au/Big-Magic-Creative-Living-Beyond/dp/1408866757- Legacy https://www.amazon.com.au/Legacy-James-Kerr/dp/147210353X- The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ckhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Subtle-Art-Not-Giving-Counterintuitive/dp/1925483592- Unreasonable Hospitalityhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Unreasonable-Hospitality-Remarkable-Giving-People/dp/1529146828 - The Infinite Gamehttps://www.amazon.com.au/Infinite-Game-Simon-Sinek/dp/0241385636- Thinking Fast and Slowhttps://www.amazon.com.au/Thinking-Fast-Slow-Daniel-Kahneman/dp/0141033576- Shoe Doghttps://www.amazon.com.au/Shoe-Dog-Memoir-Creator-NIKE/dp/1471146723- Drive https://www.amazon.com.au/Drive-Surprising-Truth-About-Motivates/dp/1786891700- The Creative Act https://www.amazon.com.au/Creative-ACT-Way-Being/dp/0593652886------Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

There are some brands you never forget… when it comes to experience. In this episode we explore the power of creative engagement when it comes to how brands can make their customer experiences unforgettable. We discuss Unreasonable Hospitality, the magic of Eleven Madison Park, and how Mecca the cosmetics retailer sets the standard for customer connection. It often comes down to giving more than expected... unless you're asking Ral to complete a survey!  Tune in for fresh ideas on standing out in a crowded market! Enjoy Keepers!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Will A.I. take your job?Unlikely, but someone who knows how to use A.I. will!There are many benefits to exploring, learning, practising and using artificial intelligence, or LLMs – large language models. Two people who pride themselves on keeping it real (smart) are both getting right into artificial intelligence. So who is Charlie??  We share what you should do to start (just start!), how we use it and all the different ways you can use it and keep using it. The trick is honing your prompts… Efficiency, boosting productivity, expanding your creativity, growing your team are just some of the advantages we are finding using LLMs like ChatGPT, Claude and others. Jac & Ral reckon ChatGPT is starting to challenge our favourite search engine Google… Ral gives a great analogy of the difference between Googe and ChatGPT – she also gets excited about how AI can help her cook… Jac would rather ask A.I. for the best new wines to try with Ral's new recipes   Enjoy Keepers!---------------Beginner-Friendly AI Courses (Free)Elements of AI – University of Helsinki & MinnaLearnCovers the basics of AI, including machine learning and neural networksNo coding requiredGoogle's Generative AI Learning Path – Google CloudFree courses on generative AI, prompt engineering, and AI toolsGreat for professionals looking to integrate AI into workAI For Everyone – Andrew Ng (DeepLearning.AI & Coursera)Non-technical overview of AI's impact on businesses and careersFree to audit (certificate requires payment)Fast.ai Practical Deep Learning for Coders – Fast.aiHands-on deep learning course using Python and PyTorchFree and suitable for those with some coding knowledgeMicrosoft's AI Learning Path – Microsoft LearnCovers AI fundamentals, machine learning, and responsible AISelf-paced and interactive AI for Work & Business ApplicationsLinkedIn Learning AI Courses – Free trials availableAI for business professionals, marketers, and creative industriesPractical applications for everyday workHarvard's CS50's Introduction to AI with Python – Harvard University (edX)Free to audit, covers machine learning fundamentalsRequires basic programming skillsIBM AI Foundations for Everyone – IBM (Coursera)Introduction to AI concepts, ethical AI, and AI applications in businessFree to audit Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you ever had a bit on the side? If not, we encourage you to There are many benefits to having a side hustle – any work or project outside of your main job that allows you to earn an extra income, learn new skills, develop an idea, meet new people and teach you something. Jac started a side hustle when she was living in Singapore and had a need… she continued her side hustle for years and it taught her more than any MBA could have. Ral set up her side hustle when she was in corporate, it served her well and is still going to this day – though became more than her side hustle. Jac & Ral encourage everyone to have a side hustle – it might be the one employment thing you can control. Listen in to get inspired on what a side hustle really is, how to start one, why it is good to have one and find out why ‘having no time' is not a good excuse to starting one! Enjoy Keepers!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We love a good podcast so we thought we would share our individual most favoured regular listens with our Keepers in this episode but we didn't stop there… we also asked A.I. what our choices say about us… Jac's podcast choices reveal a sharp, business-savvy, and intellectually curious mindset with a passion for leadership, personal growth, and high performance. Here's what her podcast picks tell us about her:1. A Strategic & Commercial Thinker2. A Growth-Oriented & High-Performance Leader3. A Deep Thinker with Intellectual Curiosity4. Passionate About Governance & Leadership5. A No-BS, Practical Problem Solver Overall, Jac is a forward-thinking, results-driven leader who thrives on insightful conversations, bold ideas, and continuous learning. She values practical wisdom, high performance, and unfiltered discussions that challenge conventional thinking. Ral's podcast choices reveal her to be intellectually curious, politically engaged, and drawn to sharp, insightful conversations with a touch of humour. Here's what her podcast picks say about her:1. Thoughtful & Reflective2. Intellectually Engaged & Politically Curious3. Values Smart, Witty Conversation4. Australian-Focused but Global in Perspective Overall, Ral is a sharp, engaged, and curious thinker who values insight, humour, and deep conversations about the world. She is drawn to strong personalities, intellectual debates, and content that informs, challenges, and entertains.Jac's Recommendations:Prof G: https://open.spotify.com/show/7syF2ry9j6nqYc656WHBA7Alex Hormozi 'The Game' : https://open.spotify.com/show/6YNopzKDGDwf0auIpPTIID15 Minute Boss: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5qcHSuuPHTeQfEsMcMgoEGTake on Board: https://open.spotify.com/show/38AvsbDrdRJ5fwdL8PnSSbJoe Rogan: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3pVNAc36azP2NVP2EHb4ZhDiary of a CEO: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0N8pwL3JeHoc34TElV7idFDiary of a CEO Book: https://www.amazon.com.au/Diary-CEO-Laws-Business-Marketing-ebook/dp/B09VRXYMW5Lex Fridman: https://open.spotify.com/show/2MAi0BvDc6GTFvKFPXnkCLRal's Recommendations:Pivot: https://open.spotify.com/show/4MU3RFGELZxPT9XHVwTNPRWiser than Me: https://open.spotify.com/show/3zaHNdVeLiqOSXwxdoWcijThe Rest is Politics US: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/6r1a2M1ISB4JALwpf2W4YoNot Stupid: https://open.spotify.com/show/7F6ALfNtMAKi6zuZSPbWKeChat 10: https://open.spotify.com/show/4vX0jVjbnlzFeWWxugNIbTFind out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We think using the ol' ageism chestnut when you don't get a role could be a convenient story you tell yourself. Maybe even an excuse…! Provocative? Yep. Accurate? Maybe.  Ageism is when we discriminate based on age – younger or older, everyone could experience ageism but when we deem it the reason we didn't get the job, or the reason we weren't promoted or the reason we were made redundant or sacked, we would like to challenge your thinking… In this episode we ask you to answer this question: “Are you relevant?”Have you kept up your training, growth and skills development? It's a jungle out there… things are changingrapidly so if you're not keeping up then you'll be pushed out and your age won't have anything to do with it!Nanna Phillips and Nanna Dolan reckon they're ageless progressives… because age is an attitude and they both continue to learn, grow and put themselves out there when it comes to ensuring they remain relevant irrespective of the number on their birth certificate! !Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Salary negotiation should be taught in school Jac & Ral reckon. Both have had long careers in corporate as well as working for themselves, so negotiating salaries and incomes are something they have a bit of experience in. In this episode they share stories about what they did well and what they did wrong when it comes to seeking out higher salaries with their employers. Things like: What is it I want and why do I deserve it? Know your value Do your research when it comes to the salary range/benchmarking Think about the mutual value exchange for both parties (ditch the winner and the loser mentality) Know when to walk away Move with strategy not emotion! And here's a tip.. as professional female speakers, don't ask them to speak for free on IWD! Enjoy Keepers!Find out more about our Finders Keepers event in Fijihttps://tinyurl.com/JacandRalFinderskeeperss---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

What is a portfolio career? Is one right for you? If so, how do you start?Jac & Ral both have portfolio careers and reckon they're the bees' knees.But not everyone is suited to a portfolio career.So how do you know if you are?Check out this episode to find out more, including the 3 key tips Jac shares at the end which will set you up well if this is the direction you want to go in. Best advice… start before you start!Enjoy Keepers!The article Jac wrote on Career Portfolioshttps://tinyurl.com/jacandral---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

She's been around… but in a good way!  This year, this month (February) marks 20 years of a great working life with lots of learnings for young Ral and every year she adds a new ‘thing' she knows to be true, thanks to her many experiences. We discuss the 20 things Ral has learned, which cover Being yourself; Dickheads; Relationships; Leaving meetings with no work to do; Busy is overrated and bored is undervalued, Always have your next holiday booked, and If it's not a hell yes, then it's a f*#k no! Jac asks Ral about her 19th thing… Look for ways to challenge yourself and together they discuss the benefits of trying something new and different. Jac shares 4 tips on how to get started and both agree, if you give no. 19 a crack, you will be BETTER than if you hadn't! Enjoy Keepers!---------------------------------------------------------New Episode Every Monday Follow the showhttps://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPgFollow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/Follow Ralhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Our first episode of 2025 and our 50th episode of the podcast! And what a coincidence the significant meaning of the number fifty is “feast and joy” – two words we live our lives by.   We discuss our reflections and insights from the break. Ral tells us about learning her fave new sport, pickleball (don't ask her to jump too high!) and the value in trying something new and different.   Jac says family and friends are everything, we ALL need more breaks, more holidays and mini breaks.   And taking all of these reflections, Jac & Ral invite you to join them in Fiji in June for the Finders Keepers immersion – an exclusive invitation to our Keepers to develop themselves, as Jac & Ral bring on the feast and joy!   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Learn the art of questions to gain a career advantage.   Do you ask (enough) questions?  Most of us don't and it's holding us back. We need to ask more and better questions so we can deepen our knowledge, challenge beliefs, uncover new opportunities and be considered a curious and intelligent leader.   In this episode, Jac reveals the key to asking great questions and she shares a story about her and Jimmy Barnes… Ral comes up with a genius invention (who wants to invest??) which could be a game changer for more women speaking up and asking questions!   Enjoy Keepers! Jac's 25 Great Questions Cheat Sheet https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Yr4iK8jRihsBxZeYGAVL86KfEIe8y8j/view?usp=sharing Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

On average we change jobs 12 times in our lifetime. Jac has had at least 16 jobs and Ral has had 12 so collectively we have conducted around 28 successful interviews. Listen in to learn the tips and techniques from our experience – we teach you the importance of prepare, prepare, prepare; why talking less is better than gabbling; the 4 different types of stories you should practise; and anticipation being your friend. Understand why you shouldn't repeat your resume in an interview and how to use your ‘weaknesses' to win! …but the best bit is Ral's joke at the end of today's episode. Not that we would encourage you to share this one in an interview Enjoy Keepers!  Ral's Storytelling for Job Interviews https://gabrielledolan.com/gabrielled... --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show   / keepingitrealwithjacandral  https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5nc... Follow Jac   / jacphillips    / jac.phillips.coaching   Follow Ral   / gabrielledolan    / gabrielledolan.1   Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Listen to the full episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6r3VPQOpI86E9IA38BvNwH?si=rqqH5tLFQimiiVamwR0H3w If you want to change, grow, improve and achieve then this episode will get you started! Or it might even help you to stop some habits that aren't serving you well anymore. How do you start a good habit? There's a system you need to learn – Jac thought she could look like Elle MacPherson if she started a certain habit… listen to learn what the habit was… and if she was successful…? Ral has created the perfect morning ritual (using habit stacking) where she starts her day by drinking a glass of water, followed by some stretching, before having a coffee and then writing. This sets her up for her day. Whether it be personal or professional, learning the art of the system or a set of behaviours where you get the outcome you want is key. It takes 4 things to break a habit… and the same 4 things can also help you start a good habit. Listen in to learn more – in fact listen in to every episode of Keeping it Real is the BEST habit you could create.   Jac's Running App: https://www.intvl.com.au/ Atomic Habits by James Clear: https://jamesclear.com/atomic-habits --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Our final episode of 2024 kyboshes the new year's resolution and instead encourages you to do an end of year audit, starting by reflecting on the year you've just had.   Reflect on your work, professional development, relationships, health and well-being, hobbies/leisure fun, side hustles and anything else.   After reflecting on your 2024, ask yourself these 4 questions:   What are you going to do more of in 2025? What are you going to do less of in 2025? What you're going to start asap? What you're going to stop asap?   Ral reckons the best business model (based on the “success” of new years resolutions) is to open a gym in January and turn it into a bar for the rest of the year! Sign us up   See you next year. Enjoy Keepers!

2024 has seen a lot of talk about choosing our hard… but we're hear to tell you to get the easy things right first! In this episode Jac & Ral discuss being on time, appreciation, hygiene, appearance, manners and a whole raft of other things they reckon you should nail and nail everytime if you want your personal brand to have strong foundations. Find out the types of ‘easy' things you should be able to tick off after listening to this episode, and when we say ‘easy' we don't mean the definition Jac was given advice on from her Mother!   Enjoy Keepers! --------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

How do you know when it's time to go?   In this episode Jac & Ral share the leading indicators you should assess yourself on to help you figure out if it is in fact time for you to change jobs.   The future of work says we will have 50 year careers and our job will not be a title, a position or a static role but a constantly changing number of tasks, outcomes and deliverables in a globalised and connected marketplace of unbundled and distributed work.   Take our audit as you listen to this episode – use our next steps so you can claim your power and make a great decision on what is next.   Enjoy Keepers! --------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

What is Executive Presence really? And why does it matter?   In this episode Jac & Ral unpack what executive presence actually is, and how it's changed since the good ol days when white, middle-aged men ruled the hallways of business.   Times have changed and with it how you dress, behave and communicate needs to be relevant in the age of online and offline leadership. Commanding a room and commanding Zoom.   Learn the 3 pillars – confidence, clarity and connection.  Find out how Ral made herself look like Yoda by doing just one thing… and Jac share's her PRICELESS model as they discuss the new rules of executive presence which might surprise you.   Enjoy Keepers! Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

There are 15.4m Aussies on Linked In and 97% of HR and recruit professionals use Linked In to recruit, with over 14 million open jobs on Linked In at any one time.   It's Jac & Ral's favourite social media platform for so many reasons, yet a lot of people don't know how to use it for impact. In this episode we talk about what we have learned (what to do and what not to do!) and we share tips on how to get started on Linkedin and what you can do to use it for a successful outcome.   Only 16.2% of the entire network use Linkedin daily… so if you want to stand out, add followers and amplify your brand, then post daily. There's our first tip!   And remember, your employer does not own your Linked In profile. You do. So figure out what you want to be known for and don't just repost your company stuff.   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

People come and go when it comes to our work and our careers, especially women. Whether you're starting out or restarting, this episode will give you some great tips on how to set yourself up for success at any stage of your working life. Starting out, our advice is be a sponge and soak everything up! You don't know what you don't know. Find out what Ral learned about eating breakfast in a hotel at 17…   We discuss the 5 C's – Curiosity, Clarification, Convey, Compliments, Connection. We also talk about knowing your non-negotiables, your passions vs your skills, and the power of saying “yes”… especially to good wine    Keep learning, no matter your age or experience because if there's one thing we've learned is “the older you get the more you realise the less you know…” Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Nearly everyone who has been employed for 10 years or more has been sacked or made redundant.   And if you're shaking your head saying “not me” then it will come… And that is okay.   In this latest episode we discuss what work really is, why it's highly likely you will face being ‘let go' at some point (for Jac, more than once) and what to do about it when it happens, either the first time or a subsequent time.   The good news is… 91% of employees go on to find a job equally as good or BETTER than their previous role. Remain optimistic about your career, the future is bright after being sacked or made redundant.   And there's good wine to be consumed in commiseration or celebration…Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We often take on a lot… more than we should which is stressful.   So Ral shares a fascinating concept from Harvard when it comes to better prioritising what we take on. It's called the water we carry and she talks us through a great exercise you can do to help you manage your daily life.   Jac could feel something in her waters… Ral told her it was more than likely the great wine offer she could get from Wild Duck Creek Estate which is exclusive to our Keepers.   What we water, grows…Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brownz

88% of people feel extremely valued when given a compliment… yet 70% of us feel embarrassed or uncomfortable giving and receiving compliments.   Enter Pookie! And Tony, Phil, Wes and Digger… our characters in this episode.   Find out the impact of giving a compliment at work – and why we should get more deliberate in handing them out.   But equally important is how you receive a compliment. It's very simple but often not done well. We teach you in this episode how to give and receive compliments and what a complisult is and why you should never offer one   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Have you worked for a toxic leader before? Do you work for a toxic leader today? Are you a toxic leader??   One in 5 leaders are toxic and 80% of professionals have had 1 toxic leader… 30% of professionals have had more than 1 toxic leader!   Toxic leaders are destructive to teams and to an organisation. They demonstrate a selfish abuse of power, and they only ever have their own self interest at heart. Moi, moi, moi…   Jac shares the 4 types of (most common) toxic leaders, learn what the 4 are and figure out if you know any. But most importantly, listen in to the tips for how to deal with a toxic leader – Ral's 7th tip is THE BEST Use secret code "KEEPERS" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Two ENTJ's walk into a room… and Keehlan starts producing their podcast Myer Briggs personality test has identified Jac and Ral as both ENTJ's – extroverts, no surprise there. However personality is not your destiny. And personality is different to character.   “Oh that's just the way I am” is a line many of us have used… However when we say this we are giving up personal responsibility for our actions and impacts.   If you recognise your biology and sociology aren't destiny, you will bring a growth mindset to your work and life — a belief that you can change, learn, develop, and adapt. Finally, it means you care more about the impact you have on others vs just doubling down on “you being you.”   So the next time you get a piece of feedback about your approach, rather than dismiss it by saying “it's just my personality,” try starting the conversation by admitting you are capable of something different and better. Listen in to the tips and techniques we share on this.   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Do you work long hours? And continue to work long hours… and complain about this? Are you in an unhappy relationship? And remain in this relationship… and complain about this? Do you love a good pity party?   The final question you should be asking yourself is: Could you be a victim? Or perhaps you know a victim? Someone who often doesn't take responsibility, feels they have no control, looks for sympathy and demonstrates patterns of behaviour.   Jac talks about “Dolly” and how she made me do it… Ral shares the travellers parable (so good!) and for every victim there is often a rescuer... Can leaders create victims? Can they sometimes be a rescuer? Listen/watch this episode to learn how to answer these questions and what to do next if you're “Dolly” or the “Hero” because you don't want to be either. You just want to be more self aware and use our tips on how to go forward.   Enjoy Keepers!  --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Some say culture eats strategy for breakfast but in this episode, Jac & Ral (the culture queens) reckon you should drink culture and make it a buffet! So how is your culture? We're not talking yoghurt, but how people (and you) feel in your workplace.   And in the spirit of keeping it real… hot tip: Everyone is responsible for culture. Jac & Ral talk about: If you're going for a new role? Be mindful of the culture, take the steps to understand and know the culture you're walking in to. If you're in a company already? If the culture isn't right for you in your current workplace – what do you do? If you're the leader, how aware are you of the culture?   You need to fully understand the vibe of the tribe, because it's everything. Listen/watch this episode to learn what to do at any stage of your career when it comes to creating a better culture.   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Want to know the 3 most important relationships in your life?   Relationship 1: can set you up for life Relationship 2: can determine your career success Relationship 3: can shape your character   Find out what these relationships are (and why they're SO worth knowing, finding and maintaining) and what Ral was looking for in one of her important relationships… blue eyes and a small head!   And if you're looking for bells to ring and angels to sing, there might be a 4th relationship… a new/current one, this relationship helps you keep it real  *Hint: it involves following a certain podcast.   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

They could talk underwater… especially Jac! In today's episode Ral continues her interview of Jac and what inspires her (listen to part 1 last week if you haven't already). Today Jac talks about an entertaining series on Netflix she's inspired by and calls out one of the cast members, her new role model “Susie Glass”. There's a great book about the second stage of our career lives and how we can leverage our strengths that only those post 40 get to do which Jac is reading and she also talks about the 90 year old who came for dinner.   There's a couple of coaching clients who for various reasons ROCK Jac's world, one of whom was sacked abruptly recently. Find out why Jac thinks the way she's handled herself is inspiring.   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

In today's episode Ral interviews Jac about what inspires her and because Jac's life philosophy is “more, not less” this is part 1 of her inspiration download. Today Jac talks about the people who inspire her – American dudes who speak directly (and Ral helps Jac understand the difference between a hood and a bonnet for our US listeners!) along with Parents, Progressives and a couple of Product she's swearing by – one of which is thanks to Elle MacPherson.     So if you're looking for inspirational people to teach you some good things, and an elixir to help you sleep and possibly take years off your face, then check this episode out.   Enjoy Keepers! 13 Years Of Brutally Honest Business Advice in 90 Mins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhFlD54nQrY&t=358s Scott Galloway https://profgmedia.com/ The Evening Elixir https://welleco.com.au/products/the-evening-elixir --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

You can learn a lot from others. If you're prepared to listen, ask questions and explore things, there's a very good chance you will encounter interesting opportunities through who you hang out with, what you watch, listen to and read.   In today's episode Jac interviews Ral about what inspires her. Ral shares so many great things across business, people, technology, reading and life. Who knew Ral would bring a ‘business book' from the late 80's into the conversation… Jac remembers the book and now thinks the characters were moonlighting as porn stars!   Good wine, wholesome moments in nature, inspirational people who demonstrate resilience on a daily basis, how she uses AI and good food are just some of the things filling Ral's cup right now. It's a meaty episode.   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Does everyone at your work agree with you all the time? Do they also laugh at your jokes regularly?   If the answer to these two questions are ‘yes' and you're a senior leader, more senior than those agreeing and laughing… you might want to listen to this podcast.   Success delusion. The higher we move up the organisational ladder, the more our employees let us know how wonderful we are. And we all want to hear what we want to hear.   We want to believe those great things “the world' is telling us about ourselves. Our belief in ourselves helps us become successful. It can also make it very hard for us to change. Find out who don't find Jac & Ral's jokes funny, and who they both turn to for the ‘real story' about their success (or not). There are many tips in this podcast to help you identify if you suffer from success delusion and what to do to change.   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Critical Thinking. Creativity. Collaboration. Communication.   Once upon a time you'd be taught reading, writing and arithmetic which was helpful but not enough… especially when it came to entering the workforce!   Today we need to learn differently and we need to know more in order to achieve in life and as leaders at work. The 4 C's are a framework to broaden your mind, help you solve problems, learn more and articulate what you know and don't know.   Asking great questions to broaden your mind. Listening to different perspectives. Recognising when you are at your most creative and identifying the power of collaboration (with who and for what) can set you up for big success.   Jac added a 5th C… coaching! And Ral added a 6th C… Chardonnay! Whatever helps you critically think, be more creative, collaborate and communicate, we think is worthy of being included. Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

At any given moment you are in control of how the story ends. Life is 10% of what happens to you, and 90% of how you respond to it. It was a beautiful day and then it could have gone to sh*t… but I didn't let it. Because we all have a choice… a choice about our attitude.   Perspective is everything and so is a good memory! Ral reminds us of the FISH training program from the 90's and 2000's which had 4 philosophies for creating positivity - and she remembered all of them!   In this episode, we reveal how Rhonda from the FBI had to choose her attitude – it was a switchboard moment, why sulking doesn't work (especially in marriage!) and justification of your bad behaviour is not okay so self check because everyone has the power to choose their attitude.   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Learn the art of questions to gain a career advantage.   Do you ask (enough) questions?  Most of us don't and it's holding us back. We need to ask more and better questions so we can deepen our knowledge, challenge beliefs, uncover new opportunities and be considered a curious and intelligent leader.   In this episode, Jac reveals the key to asking great questions and she shares a story about her and Jimmy Barnes… Ral comes up with a genius invention (who wants to invest??) which could be a game changer for more women speaking up and asking questions!   Enjoy Keepers! Jac's 25 Great Questions Cheat Sheet https://drive.google.com/file/d/13Yr4iK8jRihsBxZeYGAVL86KfEIe8y8j/view?usp=sharing Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Would you go to the opening of a wound?? If so, maybe you have FOMO! Do you experience the Fear of Missing Out…Or maybe you embrace the Joy of Missing Out?   Which ever one it is, you can learn from both these acronyms born out of social media. Jac did some research and learned there are 2 processes to FOMO, both are a bit sad… so it's good to be aware when you get FOMO, and then make a decision based on what really drives  you.   They say comparison is the thief of joy. And even Genius's like Ral can get FOMO – listen in to hear when this happened and how this experience has made her likely to embrace JOMO in the future.   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

Imagine if someone came up to you and gave you the title GENIUS. And you had to just own it. You would be more reluctant to self censor, you would be more confident to speak up and act, you would demand more from others and yourself. You would dare more, learn more and commit more. SIGN US UP! Listen in to really understand the true meaning of the word Genius. It has nothing to do with academia or intellect... Thank you Romans! The genius lives in all of us so we tell you how to unlock your inner genius – it happened to Ral at Harvard, it happened to Sid the Sloth in Ice Age… and it can happen to YOU.     Maybe you need to write yourself a letter to fear…   Enjoy Keepers! Use secret code "KEEPERS" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

They create legends. And we create keepers! “They”… are the team at Eleven Madison Park (EMP), one of the world's top restaurants who we are a bit fascinated with. Not because this restaurant is fancy, and not because it is in one of our favourite cities in the world, New York, but because the leadership at EMP believes in the remarkable power of giving people MORE than they expect.   In today's episode we talk about a fabulous book we are both reading which inspired this episode, called “Unreasonable Hospitality” written by previous EMP co-owner Will Guidara, which is all about the psychology of others, and creating experiences people NEVER forget.   We talk about leadership, service, creativity and most of all the acts of generosity and surprise and delight that everyone can adopt in order to be remembered. Ral shares a few great stories of her dining experience recently at EMP and as always we share tips on how you can also deliver on more than what is expected every day in your life, so your brand is also remembered. Enjoy Keepers! Eleven Madison Park https://www.elevenmadisonpark.com/ourrestaurant Unreasonable Hospitality Book https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/0593418573 Pablo and Rustys Coffee https://wholesale.pabloandrustys.com.au/ Use secret code "KEEPERS" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

This episode could be a coaching session to ourselves… we both could talk under water and we've never met a microphone we didn't like but that doesn't mean we should keep talking. In fact we need to remind ourselves regularly to shut the f**k up! If you find you talk too much when it comes to interviews, public speaking or presenting, when introducing others or in meetings then it's time you learned a few tips and techniques on how to stop talking too much. There are many reasons why you might talk too much – You love attention? You're an extravert? You're nervous or excited? You lack self awareness? You have an ego and an opinion… whatever it is, you need to get a handle on it and shut the f**k up! We share what we know works like seeking feedback, looking for cues, the power of the pause, having empathy for others and essentially how to NOT be a conversation narcissist. Enjoy Keepers!

There's a few things that annoy us (at work and in our personal lives) and we reckon they are universal. No manners (especially in adults!) People who litter Those who run late… regularly! Plastic apologies People who waffle… Inconsistent leadership A meeting that should have been an email And there's quite a few more! Listen in and see if you agree with our list and let us know if we have missed something that annoys you which you reckon is also shared by many. As always, there are a few stories (Ral tells us about her air movement device…) and Jac has some sobering research when it comes to holding up a mirror to ourselves when it comes to things that annoy us. Use secret code "keepers" at https://wildduckcreekestate.com.au/ --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown

We negotiate every single day. What we're having for dinner… Where we're going for our next holiday… and then there's the work negotiations… promotions, salary increases, professional development, flexibility and much more. Negotiation for positive outcome. In this episode, Ral and I share why women need to negotiate differently than men, what we learned when we studied negotiation at Harvard with Hannah Riley-Bowles (who partnered with Sheryl Sandberg to write “Lean In”) and the fact it is NEVER too late to learn about negotiation. Learn from the best…Ral was once told she's too expensive and her response… “you're worth it!” She also coached one of my former employees on how to negotiate a bigger salary from me… and they got it!   Enjoy Keepers! --------------------------------------------------------- New Episode Every Monday Follow the show https://www.instagram.com/keepingitrealwithjacandral/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5yIs5ncJGvJyXhI55Js0if?si=aCNOdB68QnOGnT0vCTPcPg Follow Jac https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacphillips/ https://www.instagram.com/jac.phillips.coaching/ Follow Ral https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabrielledolan/ https://www.instagram.com/gabrielledolan.1/ Produced by Keehlan Ferrari-Brown