Join Bae Savage on her adventures in search for love, laughs, and hopefully a great lay. We discuss the awkward dates, the lackluster lovers, and the spicy nights to remember. How did these escapades turn me into this confident and empowered curvy-poly-queen? Grab a glass of wine and listen in, babe. Find me on insta @baesavagexo
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about my foray into the world of doing stand up comedy! I recently took a 6 week course on beginner's stand up with Bad Dog Theatre and Ryan Dillon. Hear why I love stand up and the comedian community here in Toronto. Hear my first zoom comedy set, and open mic material along with what the process has been like.Don't forget Your Place or Mine now has merch! Head to https://www.baesavage.com/shop to check it out. Your Place or Mine will always be free to listen to on all streaming services. Contributions will help keep us running and allow us to grow our community of loud, bold babes!
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with Hope Mikal, the founder of Unicorn Marketing Co!Hear how Hope quit her secure full time job to do Unicorn full time, and the fears that surround taking that leap. We chat about why she's such a cheerleader for women, and her advice to new business owners. Hear about some of her ridiculous dating experiences from the past. From "boring guy" and how she ended up hooking up on the side of a highway, to the adorable beginning of a loving relationship. Bae Savage and Unicorn Marketing Co have been working together for a few months, and I recommend Hope's team a million times over! Learn more by finding her on instagram https://www.instagram.com/hellounicornmarketing/ Want more? Head to https://www.baesavage.com/ and be sure to follow: https://www.instagram.com/baesavagexo/
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about the top 5 common misconceptions about nonmonogamy. Nonmonogamy is only about sex. Nonmonogamy doesn't work long term because people are inherently jealous by nature. Nonmonogamous people are more at risk to get STIs. Nonmongamous people are just afraid of commitment. Nonmonogamous people will have sex with anyone. Spoiler alert, all of these statements are false. Nonmonogamy is a valuable and valid life choice that leads to truly incredible connections. My hope is that this episode can dispel some common myths and open your eyes to what things are like here in my polyamorous world. Want more? Head to baesavage.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we're taking another fiery trip down memory lane.DISCLAIMER: If you're a member of my family you definitely want to skip this one... she's spiiiicy.As someone who truly appreciates self pleasure, I find it fascinating where our minds take us when we're enjoying solo play. Hear about the battle between my softer, sweet self and my slutty sub self as they fight for what they each truly want to fantasize about.Hear another story from my time with Aiden (referenced in previous episodes) where we recorded ourselves for the first time and unlocked an entirely new level of orgasm.Want more? Go to www.baesavage.comNeed some help in your solo play time? Remember you can head to loveshop.ca/baesavage and enter code BAESAVAGE at checkout to save 15%!
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with Dylan Tower, the General Manager of Oasis Aqualounge in Toronto. Have you been curious about checking out a sex club? Hear about what the club is like when you walk in and what you'll find on each of the floors. We chat about some exciting upcoming events, and why Oasis is loved by many as a comfortable and fun destination. From private rooms, yoga, glow parties and just sunning in the pool... Oasis has something for everyone both in person and online. Check out more by visiting https://oasisaqualounge.com/Follow up on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/aquaflirts/ AND https://www.instagram.com/baesavagexo/We also mention Luna Matatas in this episode, check out more here: https://lunamatatas.com/Want more Your Place or Mine? Head to https://www.baesavage.com/
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with GG Hallows from the Love Shop! Hear what it's like to work for a sex shop and some of the interesting characters that walk through the doors. We chat about our personal favourite, and why both Herc and Dory are leaving some spicy impressions. Hear advice for those new to sex toys and partners looking to introduce some extra fun.Be sure to head to loveshop.ca/baesavage and enter code BAESAVAGE at checkout to save! This directly supports the podcast babes, so have some fun!Want more? Head to baesavage.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with the Actor, Model, and all around heart throb, Bradley Hamilton (@mr.bradleyhamilton). He's been featured on Murdock Mysteries, V Wars, Shadowhunters, The Expanse, Hometown Holiday, and recently, Sex/Life. We unpack what it's like to date as an actor, and if he has rules around dating other actors and fans. We talk about the future of relationships, and how exciting it is to see more people embracing alternative lifestyles. Hear about the ridiculous date he had with a drunk woman and her friends and why enjoying pineapple on pizza is only a dealbreaker if you don't repent. In case you missed it, (which is impossible because I mention it a million times), be sure to check out Bradley's spectacular (naired) ass on Sex/Life episode 4. Want more? Check out www.baesavage.com.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with the incredibly talented babes of Pandr Design Co, Roxy Prima and Phoebe Cornog. We talk about how they chose to pursue their dreams and are fighting against the starving artist stereotype by making money doing it! Hear about the launch of their upcoming book Wonder Walls that can teach anyone how to make a mural in their own home. We unpack the struggles they face with sexism in their industry and what they're doing to help empower women to assess the true value of their work. Find the Pandr Design Co babes at the links below, and check out baesavage.com for more!Website: https://www.pandrdesignco.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pandrdesignco/https://www.instagram.com/roxyprima/https://www.instagram.com/phoebecornog/https://www.instagram.com/ladieswhopaint/Check out their upcoming book and preorder here: USA: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1635862779Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/Wonder-Walls-Transform-Geometrics-Techniques
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's besties, Cashmere Glow about a Tinder date gone wrong.This was an episode that was recorded pre-launch of the podcast as Bae was working on getting comfortable over the mic and telling stories with friends. Follow the journey as I end up on a date with a man with a penchant for conspiracies and a hate for masks. Hear how the night unfolded and why it included both a dance performance and a silent connection with trees. Want more? Check out www.baesavage.comDisclaimer: Names have been changed to protect the anonymity of subjects.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about kink. As the world opens up and more and more of us are fully vaccinated, my libido is rising and I'm here for it! I share my personal kinks and talk a bit about where they came from and how it unfolded. Hear what's on my wish list coming up and why a bi MMF is at the top of the list.Want more? Go to www.baesavage.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk Tinder 101.As someone who has successfully met loads of great men on Tinder, we unpack some of my advice on how to set up your profile for success. How many photos should you have? Why is one not enough? Why shouldn't you include a picture with you and 14 other friends? This is a dating app not Where's Waldo, babes. Hear how I started with Tinder back in my hard hoe phase, and what it's like now as the world slowly opens up. Want more? Go to www.baesavage.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk bikini bodies. My journey with my relationship with swimsuits has been a rollercoaster since I was a kid. As someone whose body has been through big changes over the years with weight loss and weight gain, my views have changed on how I feel in swimwear drastically. I had a big realization this year. I didn't understand why I was comfortable being photographed completely naked, that I was comfortable going to a sex club completely naked, and was comfortable going to a clothing optional beach and being naked… BUT why did I feel like I needed to cover myself up on other beaches? Why was I wearing these one piece swimsuits to cover myself up in more public spaces? Why can I stare at myself in the mirror in the morning naked and absolutely love my body but feel I had to hide myself in a full coverage suit. Want more? go to www.baesavage.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. This episode is part of a spin-off series called Your Place or WINE, where Bae gets lit with a friend and shares some fun. In this episode, we're joined again by the gorgeous babe, Edna Millions. We found this ridiculous list of 29 questions and decided to answer a bunch in the middle of the night after 8 hours back on patios here in Toronto!Who would you let punch you directly in the face? What's the weirdest place you've ever intentionally vomited? What's the most money you've ever drunkenly spent at McDonalds? How intolerable do you find baby pictures on Facebook? Have you ever wondered what Bae's answers are to these questions? No? Well you're getting it anyway! Check out more at baesavage.com and find me on insta/tiktok @baesavagexo
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, Saeed Atabaki (@insta_you_read_me_). Pride month is upon us, and Saeed shares what it was like growing up queer in London, Ontario. We unpack the importance to the queer community of having books and films that are relatable to their personal stories. We cover recommendations to check out, and chat about how to be a better ally in queer spaces. We touch on the roots of Pride, and why the queer community has always done a better job of talking about kink. Check out the full book and move recommendation list and more episodes at www.baesavage.com.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's new friends, Bella Mitchell (@missyinkbella). Hear how she worked her way from being a model to starting a magazine to working in food and wine and then cannabis. She shares her journey with her relationship with her body, and how she lost thousands of women followers when she decided to incorporate yoga into her life. We unpack the challenges with being a curvy, plus size woman versus being society's version of a thin and attractive woman, and what that means for the rules around what you can post online. Is posting a selfie in your underwear sexual? How is it different from posting a bikini shot? Why are more people uncomfortable with the former if it's a plus sized body? Why do curvy women get more hate from men, while thin women get more hate from women? Tune in to hear more.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about five fantastic first dates from my past that never made it to a second date. Meet Trevor, the smokin' hot Calgary silver fox who was a hard 10. We shared half priced wine and a night of passion at a fancy boutique hotel that led to orgasms and a sleepover. Meet Kerry, the adorable LA front man who I shot my shot with at a local bar and took him out on the town to show him around Toronto. From tacos and beer and swanky cocktails to a night to remember before he had to go move his van at 7AM.Meet Adrian, the odd rich man who I bonded with over weed in his flashy red convertible. Follow us into a night at the Drake Hotel that took a bit of an off turn under the sheets.Meet Ian, the somewhat-sugar-daddy who wined me and then swept me upstairs to his condo inside one of Toronto's swankiest hotels. All kinds of first class. Finally... one of the most memorable bangs of my life. Meet Jared, colloquially called The Thick Dick Banker. Not only was this an amazing first with one of the most beautiful men I've ever been with... but the absolute MAJESTY of what this man had in his pants was life altering.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, Samantha Kemp Upton Thomas. Hear how she married a man she met as a pre-teen, and how it evolved into an amazing marriage. We unpack what life was like during the pandemic and how she started not one, but two of her own businesses. We joke about this episode being a monogamy promotion piece, as Sam and her husband Matt have a truly wonderful relationship. We finish off talking about her egg donation journey, and handling awkward questions about our life choices. Check out her businesses Copy by her (@copybyher) and The Mindful Business Owner (@themindfulbusinessowner) and be sure you're following me on instagram @baesavagexo
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of friends, Danijela Kovac. In this episode, we hear about Dani's journey through alcoholism and sobriety. We unpack what it's like to date as a sober person, and offer advice if you're dating someone who is sober. Hear how her path led her to start Teetotaler wines and how she's falling in love with herself hard. Be sure to check her out on social @teetotalerwines or by visiting teetolaterwines.com
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about confidence. I have had a complicated relationship with confidence, as my body has gone through changes and so has my life. I'm ever-evolving into this amazing, boss, confident babe, and I'm realizing that it has more to do with how I'm caring for me than how I'm validated by others.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, Ray Recek. Freshly out of a relationship, Ray shares about the power of manifestation and how he's focusing on finding his ideal partner. This was an impromptu episode amidst some virtual drinks where we chat about what life is like moving from the hustle and bustle of Toronto to the calm of Collingwood, Ontario. Hear the challenges of trying to Tinder in the woods and why his radius is set to 119km. We unpack the issues of expecting this one partner to tick all your boxes, and the threat of platonic friends of the opposite sex in monogamous relationships. Oh and babes... he's hot and single. DM me on Instagram @baesavagexo
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about a date that took some interesting turns. We start with a night of passion on the dance floor with bottle service and shift to a "germaphobe's" plastic covered apartment. Hear about one of the strangest dick's I've encountered and the awkward run-in with the family in the morning. Not the spiciest but definitely one to remember.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's favourite local comedians, Fiona O'Brien. Hear about the ridiculous comedy shows Fiona books like a local sex toy party where she was paid both in cash and vibrators. Hear about her first experience doing stand-up comedy live at a sex club in Mississauga. Hilarity ensues! Be sure to follow Fiona on Instagram at @realfionao and check out the podcast she hosts with John Mostyn called Craicing Up!
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about a few memorable one night stands from the past. One night stands can be super fun, if post people know that's the plan! We talk about the value in out-of-town one night stands, and why that's the preference. Hear about spicy nights in London, England, Guelph, and Toronto before I lived here. DM me your favourite one night stand story to be featured on a future episode! Find me on Instagram and tiktok @baesavagexo.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we talk about breakups. When you're nonmonogamous, it's important to remember that more relationships and more partners are going to mean more breakups. As someone who's gone through roughly 50 breakups, hear about the lessons that came out of some of the big ones.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of my closest friends, Kyle J Birtch (@kylejbirtch). Kyle runs a YouTube channel devoted to unpacking the challenges and realities of living with anxiety and depression. As a person who has dealt with depression and anxiety for the better part of the last decade, Kyle is trying to help bring awareness and share his personal experiences. We talk about the mistakes I've made in past relationships, and how to be a better partner to someone who struggles with mental health. Be sure to find him on YouTube searching for Kyle J Birtch or by clicking here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwqVn7WKPI_m-mTEmrGXNiA
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. This is the second of a spin-off series called Your Place or HIGH, where Bae gets baked with a friend and shares some fun. In this episode, meet one of my oldest friends, Em Up. We talk about the ridiculousness of high school fashion, and how I reacted to seeing my ex-husband recently in public. We dig into the night that Em enjoyed Tinder for an evening and the drunk night out that ensued. We talk about making out on dance floors, being labeled a change thief, and why it's awkward to be hungover eating chicken nuggets next to hotties on the GO.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this spicy episode, hear the story of my first foursome. This wild night happened a couple of years ago in Cuba and was a monumental experience. From bingo in the pool and harmless flirting to dancing in a cave and all ending up in bed with three friends... it was wild. This night completely blew my mind... you're going to want to hear every word. Disclaimer: If you're related to me... you don't want to listen to this one.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with the amazing photographer behind the NOW Magazine's Love Your Body shoot, Samuel Engelking. (@samuelengelking) Hear why Sam decided to get into photography and why portraiture is his passion. Learn what it's like to be on the other side of the camera for this particular shoot, and how he helps make his subjects comfortable. We discuss the differences between photographing different bodies, and how to truly capture someone's authentic self. Check out more of Sam's amazing work at samuelengelking.com.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's favourite local comedians, the absolutely hilarious and brilliant Allie Pearse. (@allie_pearse). Hear what it's like to write for Letterkenny and how much she loves doing stand up. As we recorded this episode on Valentine's Day, we talk about how we feel about this Hallmark holiday, and some of the advice we would give our younger selves about when, and when not, to put out.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, the creator of SLXT Merch (@slxtmerch), Sim Thind (@sim_thind). Sim started this amazing clothing line in 2020 and is passionate about reclaiming the word slut. Hear how she decided to become an entrepreneur and why she's a self-proclaimed SLXT. In this episode we bring you your first Babecave Lightning Round, asking questions our guest hadn't heard prior to this episode. Learn whether or not we can tie a cherry stem with our teeth and what happened when Sim accidentally posted a late-night nude on Instagram.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's new friends, Emma Hewson. (@emma.louise.hewson on Instagram) Emma is a musician and a teacher and was also recently photographed for Now Magazine's Love Your Body 2021 feature. Hear more about why we decided to participate in the shoot, how it felt to share these images online, and both the positive and not-so-positive responses we both faced. Learn about the complicated relationship we've both had with our bodies and where we are at now.If you haven't seen the feature, you can here: https://nowtoronto.com/lifestyle/love-your-body
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's besties, Cashmere Glow. As their time living as roomies here in the Babecave comes to a close, they reminisce about their first time individually at Oasis, a Toronto sex club. These circumstances were wildly different between the two, get ready for this spicy talk. This is also another chapter of Bae's partnership with Aiden and his alter ego from episode three.
TRIGGER WARNING: The episode includes a discussion regarding a recent sexual assault. If you're not in a place to hear this content, please do not listen past the first 20 minutes. Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, Carlen Costa. Carlen is a Sexologist and Psychotherapist, Founder of The Everyday Goddess and the Goddess Foundation. In this episode, we chat about why she got into the work she's doing and how she teaches people how to love and be loved. We talk about dating in 2020 and Carlen shares about her recent sexual assault while she was on a date with someone she thought was her friend. This is a heavy episode and a very hard conversation. I thank Carlen for her bravery and openness with us on this very vulnerable topic. Find Carlen on Instagram @carlen.costa and @theeverydaygoddessbrand, or check her out at www.carlencosta.com.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one another of Bae's favourite local comedians, John Mostyn (@mostyncomedy). The first cis-het man welcomed onto the show! In this conversation, we talk about how he shifted from doing comedy to starting an amazing and successful vegan pie business (@thepielander). We talk about sober dates, accents, and being called daddy. Learn what it was like to date for John in 2020, and why he's taking a break. This is a bit of a longer episode, as the conversation shifts to the issues we see with dating in Toronto, and John opens up about the importance of knowing what you want if you want to be a good partner. We unpack some of the challenges we see, and how important it is for men to take a step back and focus on both self-improvement and self-love. This is a refreshing conversation, and I think it's important to have guests on the show who show another side of things. We can share stories about dating men and how disappointing men can be, but there are a lot of really great men here in the city who are putting in the work to be better and that can give us babes some hope!
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, learn about the second half of the Influential Eight, the 8 men outside of my primary partners who helped to influence how I view relationships and taught me important lessons about love and sex. Shoutout to everyone who's showered me with love and positivity since recently being featured along with 5 other beautiful humans for Now Magazine's Love Your Body 2021 issue. If you haven't seen it, this is a yearly nude photoshoot that features stories about self-love and body positivity. I was honored to be involved and thrilled with how the photos turned out, check them out on my Instagram @baesavagexo or by visiting nowtoronto.com.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends, Breton Lalama. Breton is a hilarious and smokin' hot non-binary, nonmonogamous human who works as a stand-up comedian, actor, and writer! Learn what it was like coming from a small town to the big city, traveling with the production Hair, and what kind of conversations come up on Tinder as a trans/non-binary person. We also talk about the weirdest porn we've seen, and hear about Breton's upcoming Netflix appearance! Follow Breton on Instagram @bretonlikethecrackers
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's friends/ favourite local servers/ Only Fans star, Kylee Francirek. Learn about what it's like to be a babe in the service industry, what jealousy looks like in new nonmonogamous relationships, why no one wants to get 'slug dick fucked', and what it's like to have a career on Only Fans. (@kyleeunlikely_ on Instagram)
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, learn about the first three of the Influential Eight, the 8 men outside of my primary partners who helped to influence how I view relationships and taught me important lessons about love and sex.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. This is the first of a spin-off series called Your Place or HIGH, where Bae gets baked with a friend and shares some fun. In this episode, welcome back the amazing Edna Millions, and hear about outdoor sex, nude etiquette, and orgasms from the deep past.
Merry Christmas, Babes. What did strangers give to you on Tinder this holiday season? Unsolicited dick pics... bad pick up lines... or just some good ol' heightened anxiety.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, learn more about the history of how I stumbled into the world of non-monogamy, how my relationships have evolved, and how I'm navigating this journey.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's favourite local comedians, Dan Udy. Learn about the dumpster fire of Facebook's "People you may know", how it feels to be fetishized, and the art of the tasteful nude.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this spicy episode, hear the story of my most unorthodox threesome. This experience completely blew my mind... you're going to want to hear every word. Disclaimer: If you're related to me you're definitely not going to want to listen to this one.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. This is the first of a spin-off series called Your Place or WINE, where Bae gets lit with a friend and shares some fun. In this episode, meet the amazing Cashmere Glow, and find out what it's like to live in the Babe Cave, and what to do with Winnie the Pooh.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, we chat with one of Bae's favourite local comedians, Natalie Norman. Learn about her first one night stand, hot park make-outs, and why you should bring your own condoms.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this spicy episode, hear the beginning of the story about Aiden, a man who completely blew my mind in bed. In the first part of his story, hear about our first date, and how he completely rocked my world in the bedroom.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, learn a bit more about who I am and why you should immediately fall in love with me.
Well hello there, babes. Welcome back to Your Place or Mine, hosted by Bae Savage. In this episode, meet one of my favourite ladies, Edna Millions. Learn about wild travel tales with Bae and Edna, and be introduced to Bae Savage's third wild alter ego, Aurora.