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Conversations with the hackers, leaders, and innovators of software development. Hosts Adam Stacoviak and Jerod Santo face their imposter syndrome so you don’t have to. Expect in-depth interviews with the best and brightest in software engineering, open source, and leadership. This is a polyglot po…

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    The Changelog podcast is a highly informative and useful resource for developers looking for tips and tricks in the development space. As a long-time listener, I can confidently say that this is one of the best podcasts out there for developers. The hosts, Adam and Jerod, do an excellent job of allowing their guests to express their opinions without getting in the way. They cover a wide range of topics, always staying up-to-date with the latest technologies from the Open Source community and programming languages. The podcast is a great way to stay informed and learn from leaders in the field.

    One of the best aspects of The Changelog is its variety. While it may have started off as more focused on Ruby projects, it has since expanded to include guests from a variety of projects and backgrounds. This diversity makes each episode interesting and ensures that there is something for everyone. Additionally, I appreciate that Adam and Jerod keep conversations lively and engaging, making even complex ideas easy to understand. The content provided by this podcast is both compelling and valuable.

    While there are many positive aspects to The Changelog, some listeners may find it overwhelming or not relevant if they are not particularly interested in certain featured projects or guests. However, I believe that even if you don't think a particular topic will interest you, it's still worth giving it a listen because you'll likely learn something new. The hosts do a great job of making each episode accessible and enjoyable for all listeners.

    In conclusion, The Changelog is an exceptional podcast for anyone interested in software development and open source. It provides valuable insights into the world of technology while also keeping listeners entertained. Adam and Jerod are skilled at leading conversations with their guests, resulting in informative and entertaining episodes. I highly recommend subscribing to this podcast if you want to stay up-to-date on the latest trends in open source software and gain knowledge from experts in the field.



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    Agentic infra changes everything (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2025 123:40


    Adam Jacob joins us to discuss how agentic systems for building and managing infrastructure have fundamentally altered how he thinks about everything, including the last six years of his life. Along the way, he opines on the recent AWS outage, debates whether we're in an AI-induced bubble, quells any concerns of AGI and a robot uprising, eats some humble pie, and more.

    Code like a surgeon (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2025 8:24


    The Dead Internet Theory dies, Geoffrey Litt tries to code like a surgeon, Matt Sephton thinks spreadsheets are great for UI design, Nate Meyvis advocates for front-end maximalism, Hemant Pandey thinks 9-5 employment is a great option for most, David Miranda compares React to Backbone in 2025.

    Kaizen! Mop-up job (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 24, 2025 107:36


    It's our first Kaizen after the big Pipely launch in Denver and we have some serious mopping to do. Along the way, we brainstorm the next get-together, check out our new cache hit/miss ratio, give Pipely a deep speed test, discuss open video standards, and more!

    Bringing Atuin to the desktop (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2025 56:39


    Ellie Huxtable's magical shell tool, Atuin, won developers' hearts by syncing, searching, and backing up our shell history with ease. Now Ellie is tackling the desktop with a GUI built to help teams make their workflows repeatable, shareable, and reliable.

    The science behind developer flow states (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 20, 2025 6:47


    Csaba Okrona lays out exactly what Flow is (then shows you how to engineer your way back to it), a smart vacuum turned against an innocent hacker, Matz and the Ruby core team step up to steward RubyGems, Simon Willison things Claude Skills could be bigger than MCP, and Luke Plant looks at technical debt from a more positive perspective.

    There will be bleeps (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 17, 2025 101:45


    Mike McQuaid and Justin Searls join Jerod in the wake of the RubyGems debacle to discuss what happened, what it says about money in open source, what sustainability really means for our community, making a career out of open source (or not), and more. Bleep!

    Spec-driven development with Kiro (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2025 85:20


    We're joined by Deepak Singh from the Kiro team. Kiro is AWS's attempt at building an AI coding environment to take you from prototype to production. It does that by bringing structure to your agentic workflow with spec-driven development. Their aim: the flow of AI coding, leveled up with mature engineering practices.

    The great software quality collapse (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2025 8:45


    Denis Stetskov describes how we've "normalized catastrophe" in the software industry, Meta is officially handing React and React Native over to a foundation, The New Stack reports on GitHub's Azure migration priority, Miguel Grinberg benchmarks Python 3.14, and The Oatmeal's Matthew Inman published his take on AI art.

    A new direction for AI developer tooling (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2025 89:52


    Elixir creator, José Valim, is throwing his hat into the coding agent ring with Tidewave –a coding agent for full-stack web development. Tidewave runs in the browser alongside your app, but it's also deeply integrated into Rails and Phoenix. On this episode, José tells us all about it. Also: his agent flow, YOLO mode, an MCP hot take, and more.

    Vite documentary companion pod (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2025 72:22


    Our friends at Cult.Repo launch their epic Vite documentary on October 9th, 2025! To celebrate, Jerod sat down with Evan You to discuss Vite's adoption story, why he raised money to start VoidZero, how developer documentaries get made, open source sustainability, and more.

    The best coders should exit the feed (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 6, 2025 7:42


    Abner Coimbre makes a compelling case why our biggest technical talent should abandon for-profit social platforms, Noah Brier creates a Claude Code and Obsidian starter kit, Bharath Natarajan documents the Vercel vs Cloudflare fight, Toolbrew is a well-designed website brimming with common utilities, and Yusuf Aytas analyzes why over-engineering happens.

    npm under siege (what to do about it) (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2025 95:20


    Over the past two months, we've seen some of the most serious supply chain attacks in npm history: phishing campaigns, maintainer account takeovers, and malware published to packages with billions of weekly downloads. What is going on?! What can we do about it? Our old friend, Feross Aboukhadijeh, joins us to help make sense of it all.

    Reinventing Python tooling with Rust (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2025 103:20


    Charlie Marsh built Ruff (an extremely fast Python linter written in Rust) and uv (an extremely fast Python package manager written in Rust) because he believes great tools can have an outsized impact. He believes it so much, in fact, that he started an entire company that builds next-gen Python tooling. On this episode, Charlie joins us to tell us all about it: why Python, why Rust, how they make everything so fast, how they're starting to make money, what other products he's dreaming up, and more.

    Hiring only senior engineers is killing companies (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2025 6:41


    Andrew Churchill thinks companies should really be hiring junior engineers, Addy Osmani announces Chrome DevTools MCP, GitHub lays out a roadmap to fend off npm attacks, Jerry Liu builds an app that generates a timeline of your day's activities, and Sean Goedecke attempts to define "good taste" in the context of software engineering.

    Inside Oxide (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2025 70:48


    Bryan Cantrill and Steve Tuck, the co-founders of Oxide, are on the pod live (to tape) from the stage at OxCon. Jerod and I were invited to Oxide's annual internal conference to meet the people and to hear the stories of what makes Oxide a truly special place to work right now. The best part was this on-stage discussion with Bryan and Steve. Enjoy!

    Voices of Oxide (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2025 76:14


    Voices of Oxide on the pod! Cliff Biffle (engineer), Dave Pacheco (engineer), and Ben Leonard (designer) are on the show today. Jerod and I were invited to Oxide's annual internal conference called OxCon to meet the people and to hear the stories of what makes Oxide a truly special place to work right now. Cliff Biffle is working on all Hubris and firmware. Cliff says "There's a lot that happens before the 'main CPU' can even power on." Dave Pacheco is leading the efforts on Oxide's "Update" system. And Ben Leonard in charge of all things brand and design at Oxide.

    An escape route from YAML hell (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2025 6:45


    Adolfo Ochagavía believes we're approaching the problem of configuration from a flawed starting point, Annie Mueller hits us with a wakeup call about how she reads beginner tutorials, Brian Kihoon Lee spends some time meditating on taste, Namanyay thinks vibe coding is coders braindead, and Can Elma speculates on why AI helps senior engineers more than juniors.

    Linux Fest in Texas! (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2025 79:17


    Carl George joins the show to talk about Texas Linux Fest, Omarchy, Linux desktop environments, configuring Linux, and more. Use the code `CHL15` for 15% off your ticket to Texas Linux Fest.

    Flowing with agents (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2025 125:58


    Everything is changing. Adam is joined by his good friend Beyang Liu from Sourcegraph — this time, talking about Amp (ampcode.com). Amp is one of the many, and one of Adam's favorite agentic coding tools to use. What makes it different is how they've engineered to it to maximize what's possible with today's frontier models. Autonomous reasoning, access to the oracle, comprehensive code editing, and complex task execution. That's nearly verbatim from their homepage, but it's also exactly what Adam has experienced. They talk through all things agents, how Adam might have been holding Amp wrong, and they even talked through Adam's idea called "Agent Flow". If you're babysitting agents, this episode is for you.

    Just enough automation (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2025 7:30


    Zach Gates quantifies the value of automating things, Albania's new prime minister names an AI "minister" to his Cabinet, Eckart Walther launches Really Simple Licensing (RSL) along with some big names on the web, Vishnu Haridas praises UTF-8's design, and Justin Searls disagrees with last week's headline story about AI coding tools and shovelware.

    Why AI coding claims don't add up (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2025 8:53


    Mike Judge breaks down why he doesn't believe the AI coding claims add up, the folks behind Cactoide create an open source alternative to Meetup / Eventbrite, Ryan Farley tells the story of how RSS beat Microsoft, Dominik Szymański ditched Docker for Podman (and thinks you should too), and Stripe announces a new layer 1 blockchain called Tempo.

    XO Ruby is hitting the road (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2025 92:03


    Jim Remsik has lived on the bleeding edge (but also the heart's center) of the Ruby world for decades. This fall, he's organizing six (yes, SIX) XO Ruby confs all around the United States. On this episode, Jim joins us to reminisce about the early days of Ruby and Rails, share what he's learned from so many years of organizing events, and invite all of us to join him on his upcoming 7500 mile road trip.

    Next.js is infuriating (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2025 8:14 Transcription Available


    Dominik Meca is infuriated by Next.js, Josh Bressers explains why open source is just one person, Huon Wilson describes the usefulness of "Copy as cURL", Herman Martinus re-licenses Bear, and Nawaz Dhandala unpacks why dependency bloat is such a pervasive problem.

    Action absorbs anxiety (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2025 82:54


    Arun Gupta, now a "free agent" after his surprise exit at Intel, joins us to discuss how he's dealing with his first job hunt since the 1990s. Along the way, we talk about agentic coding strategies, what GPT-5's release implies about the future, and more. (US buys 10% of Intel)++

    Python documentary companion pod (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 27, 2025 114:19


    Our friends at Cult.Repo launch their epic Python documentary on August 28th, 2025! To celebrate, we sat down with Travis Oliphant –creator of NumPy, SciPy, and more– to get his perspective on how Python took over the software world. Stick around for the twist ending! We set aside Python and dissect Travis' big idea to make open source projects financially sustainable through direct investment.

    Omarchy 2.0: Best Linux setup ever? (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2025 7:41 Transcription Available


    Elon Musk and xAI take on Microsoft, DHH ships version 2 of Omarchy (his love letter to Linux), Glyn Normington on managing developer's block, Mitchell Hashimoto declares that all Ghostty contributions must disclose AI tooling, the United States government takes a 10% stake in Intel, and Adam Derewecki thinks we should do things that don't scale, then don't scale.

    Git with your friends (remastered) (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2025 107:23


    Our Changelog & Friends proof-of-concept with Mat Ryer has been remastered! Now with full-length video on YouTube. Originally recorded: 2023-02-08 Mat joins us for some good conversation about some Git tooling that's been on our radar. We speculate, we discuss, we laugh, and Mat even breaks into song a few times. It's good fun.

    From Chef to System Initiative (remastered) (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2025 142:30


    The epic show with Adam Jacob has been remastered! Now with full-length video on YouTube. Adam goes solo with Adam Jacob for an epic pod into his journey to get to System Initiative. From SysAdmin at 8 years old, to discovering Linux and working for Mom-and-pop ISPs, to open source changing his life and starting Opscode and building Chef. Buckle up and enjoy.

    Cursor's problem isn't just Cursor's problem (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2025 7:37 Transcription Available


    Cursor has a big problem, Alireza Bashiri thinks plaintext beats todo apps, Manish built an offline AI workspace, OverType is a WYSIWYG markdown editor that's just a textarea, and sshrc lets you bring your config with you to remote machines.

    Oxide is crossing the chasm (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2025 99:58


    Bryan Cantrill returns in the wake of Oxide Computer Company's $100M Series B. Bryan tells us how he's avoiding an appearance on Silicon Valley (ding), why their uniform compensation is working, where Oxide fits in the AI datacenter, what scaling to 50+ rack orders looks like, and more. (GitHub has no CEO and saving Intel)++

    Biocomputing on human neurons (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 14, 2025 57:21


    Dr. Ewelina Kurtys is leading the way in biocomputing at FinalSpark where she is working on the next evolutionary leap for AI and neuron-powered computing. It's a brave new world, just 10 years in the making. We discuss lab-grown human brain organoids connected to electrodes, the possibility to solve AI's massive energy consumption challenge, post-silicon approach to computing, biological vs quantum physics and more.

    Open source regrets (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2025 9:29


    Open source maintainers share their regrets, Thomas Dohmke steps down as GitHub CEO, James Kettle breaks down HTTP/2 from a security perspective, PHP is getting the pipe operator this November, and a class action copyright suit threatens Anthropic and the rest of the AI industry.

    Kaizen! Pipely is LIVE (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2025 71:35


    Gerhard calls Kaizen 20, 'The One Where We Meet'. Rightfully so. It's also the one where we eat, hike, chat, and launch Pipely live on stage with friends.

    LIVE from Denver with Nora Jones! (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2025 75:26


    We're LIVE at the historic Oriental Theater in Denver, CO with Nora Jones. Nora is the founder of Jeli.io, recently acquired by PagerDuty and she's been shaping the way we think about reliability, incident response, and human-centered engineering for years. We get into the real story behind the deal. Not just the headline, but what it's like selling your company, what it takes to actually integrate a product into a larger platform, how customers responded, what changed for her team, and why her new role at PagerDuty is basically everything she was building Jeli for.

    The smell of vibe coding (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2025 7:33


    Alex Kondov knows when you've been vibe coding. (He can smell it.) our friends at Charm release a Go-based AI coding agent as a TUI, Jan Kammerath disassembled the "hacked' Tea service's Android app, Alex Ellman made a website that provides up-to-date pricing info for major LLM APIs, and Steph Ango suggests remote teams have "ramblings" channels.

    SO much to dig into (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2025 83:48


    Adam & Jerod (plus zero other randos) dig into Stack Overflow's 2025 developer survey results. We discuss SO's decline, the desire for younger devs to have real chats with real people, the rise of uv and more Python winning, why people are frustrated with AI, and more.

    Solving the AI energy crisis (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2025 122:37


    Greg Osuri, Founder and CEO of Akash Network joins us to share the backstory in his testimony before congress on the energy crisis and what it's going to take to power the future of AI. From powering datacenters, to solar, decentralized AI compute, to zombies in SF.

    It's time for modern CSS to kill the SPA (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 28, 2025 7:48 Transcription Available


    Jono Alderson takes aim at SPAs thanks to modern CSS, copyparty turns almost any device into a file server, Ernie Smith honors the Game Genie's 35th anniversary, Anthropic shares how their teams use Claude Code, and Drew Lyton tells why he believes the future is NOT self-hosted.

    #define: props to astronomer (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2025 66:10


    Welcome back to #define, our game of obscure jargon, fake definitions, and expert tomfoolery. This time we're joined by three Changelog++ members, to see who has the best vocabulary and who can trick everyone else into thinking that they do.

    Bringing Vitess to Postgres (Interview)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 23, 2025 75:14


    Sugu Sougoumarane, creator of Vitess, comes off sabbatical to bring Vitess to Postgres. We discuss what motivated Sugu to come off sabbatical, why now is the time, the technical challenges of doing so, the implementation details of Multigres (Vitess for Postgres). We also discuss the state of Postgres at scale.

    Humanity has prevailed (for now!) (News)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2025 6:47


    Przemysław Dębiak beat an advanced AI model from OpenAI in a 10-hour head-to-head coding marathon, Linux breaks 5% desktop share in U.S., Stefano Marinelli is writing a series on making your own backup system, César Soto Valero switched to Python (and is liking it), and Charlie Graham thinks it's rude to show AI output to people.

    Try harder. Ultrathink! (Friends)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2025 91:46


    Nick Nisi joins us to discuss all the Windsurf drama, his new agentic lifestyle, whether or not he's actually more productive, the new paper that says he maybe isn't more productive, the reckoning he sees coming, and why we might be the last generation of code monkeys.

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