Podcast appearances and mentions of fran weissler

We're back with Season 2 of Big Shot! In this episode of Big Shot, we're joined by Fran Weissler, a seven-time Tony award-winning producer and one-half of the dynamic duo behind Chicago, the longest-running American musical. Fran's journey epitomizes Jewish chutzpah, marked by bold choices—from leaving her first marriage to making decisive moves in her Broadway career. Today, Fran shares with us stories from her journey, including breaking into Broadway at the age of 50 and producing Othello with a star-studded cast featuring James Earl Jones and Christopher Plummer. We also talk about her successful marriage and business partnership of 55 years, how Fran navigated challenges working with chauvinists and demanding actors, and how she finally started to slow down a little bit at the age of 90.  — In This Episode We Cover:  (02:35) Fran's childhood and life before Broadway (07:04) Why Fran decided to end her first marriage (08:59) How Fran met Barry and got started in theater (15:02) The early days of NAMCO producing plays for Catholic schools (19:00) Fran's first Broadway show, Othello, with James Earl Jones (21:52) How Fran got Christopher Plummer to play Iago (31:34) What it was like to win a Tony for Othello (33:33) How firing Peter Coe accelerated Fran's career as a producer  (45:30) Fran's chutzpah (48:20) How Fran and Barry balance each other out as a team  (51:14) How Fran handled working with the chauvinist Anthony Quinn  (1:00:15) A compromise made with Kathleen Turner (1:03:26) The Queen of Broadway: Fran's identity separate from Barry (1:05:28) Fran and Barry's rare, beautiful marriage (1:09:32) How Fran and Barry revived Chicago and made the longest-running American show (1:19:11) Fran's advice for aspiring producers — Referenced:  NAMCO: https://www.namcousa.com/ Othello at the Winter Garden Theater (1982): https://playbill.com/productions/othellobroadway-winter-garden-theatre-1982 James Earl Jones: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000469/ Christopher Plummer: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001626/ Lucy Kroll: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_Kroll Stratford Festival: https://www.stratfordfestival.ca/ Lou Pitt: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1018725/ Zoe Caldwell: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0129807/ Robert Whitehead: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0925723/ Medea 1982 playbill: https://playbill.com/production/medea-cort-theatre-vault-0000003496 Chicago: https://chicagothemusical.com/ Phantom of the Opera: https://us.thephantomoftheopera.com/ When Kathleen Turner Brought Maggie the Cat Back to Broadway: https://playbill.com/article/when-kathleen-turner-brought-maggie-the-cat-back-to-broadway Zorba the Greek 1983 playbill with Anthony Quinn: https://playbill.com/production/zorba-broadway-theatre-vault-0000012262 Encores: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Encores The economics of Broadway shows: https://thehustle.co/the-economics-of-broadway-shows/ — Where to find Fran Weissler:  Website: https://www.namcousa.com/ Where To Find Big Shot:  Website: ⁠https://www.bigshot.show/ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@bigshotpodcast⁠   TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@bigshotshow⁠    Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/bigshotshow/⁠   Harley Finkelstein: ⁠https://twitter.com/harleyf⁠  David Segal: ⁠https://twitter.com/tea_maverick⁠ Production and Marketing: ⁠⁠https://penname.co

CHICAGO  Book by Fred Ebb & Bob Fosse | Music by John Kander | Lyrics by Fred Ebb |  Based on the play by Maurine Dallas WatkinsWorks Consulted & Reference :Chicago (Original Libretto) by  Fred Ebb & Bob FosseFosse by Sam WassonColored Lights: Forty Years of Words and Music, Show Biz, Collaboration, and All That Jazz by John Kander, Fred Ebb, as told to Greg LawrenceMusic Credits:"Overture" from Dear World (Original Broadway Cast Recording)  | Music by Jerry Herman | Performed by Dear World Orchestra & Donald Pippin"The Speed Test" from Thoroughly Modern Millie  (Original Broadway Cast Recording) | Music by Jeanine Tesori, Lyrics by Dick Scanlan | Performed by Marc Kudisch, Sutton Foster, Anne L. Nathan & Ensemble"Why God Why" from Miss Saigon: The Definitive Live Recording  (Original Cast Recording  / Deluxe)  | Music by Claude-Michel Schönberg, Lyrics by Alain Boublil & Richard Maltby Jr.  | Performed by Alistair Brammer"Back to Before" from Ragtime: The Musical (Original Broadway Cast Recording)  | Music by Stephen Flaherty, Lyrics by Lynn Ahrens | Performed by Marin Mazzie"Chromolume #7 / Putting It Together" from Sunday in the Park with George (Original Broadway Cast Recording)  | Music & Lyrics by Stephen Sondheim | Performed by Mandy Patinkin, Bernadette Peters, Judith Moore, Cris Groenendaal, Charles Kimbrough, William Parry, Nancy Opel, Robert Westenberg, Dana Ivey, Kurt Knudson, Barbara Bryne"What's Inside" from Waitress (Original Broadway Cast Recording)  | Music & Lyrics by Sara Bareilles | Performed by Jessie Mueller & Ensemble"Nobody" from Absysinia  | Music by Bert Williams, Lyrics by Alex Rogers | Recorded for the Victor label"Mister Cellophane” from  Chicago (New Broadway Cast Recording 1997) | Music by John Kander | Lyrics by Fred Ebb |  Performed by Joel Grey"Maria" from The Sound of Music (Original Soundtrack Recording)  | Music by Richard Rodgers, Lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II | Performed by Evadne Baker, Anna Lee, Portia Nelson, Marni Nixon"My Favorite Things" from The Sound of Music (Original Soundtrack Recording) | Music by Richard Rodgers, Lyrics by Oscar Hammerstein II | Performed by Julie Andrews"Corner of the Sky" from Pippin (New Broadway Cast Recording) | Music & Lyrics by Stephen Schwartz | Performed by Matthew James Thomas“What Comes Next?” from Hamilton (Original Broadway Cast Recording) | Music & Lyrics by Lin-Manuel Miranda | Performed by Jonathan Groff

I'm Patricia O'Connell for This is Capitalism. Today I'm talking with Brian Lipton, who is the Chief Theater Critic for Cititour.com and the former editor-in-chief and currently a contributing editor to TheaterMania.com. He is going to take us behind the scenes at Broadway and give us a little bit of a look at what's going on with Broadway, the return to Broadway for both actors and theatergoers. Key Takeaways:   [:29] Patricia O'Connell introduces Brian Lipton, a theater critic for Cititour.com and contributing editor to TheaterMania.com, and welcomes him to This is Capitalism. [1:01] What does the closing of Phantom mean after 35 years? Is it just time? It has made its money back so many times that its lead producer, Cameron Mackintosh, could run it as long as he wanted to. With its closing notice, its grosses have soared to their highest in years. Winter is not the tourist season, and COVID-19 is still a factor. [3:01] All Broadway shows are capitalized, which is really the amount of money it takes to put the show on from start to finish: rehearsals, scenery, rent, and things up until day one. For a large musical now, $15 to $25 million is not an unusual capitalization. You have to make that money back during the run to get a profit. [3:38] Then you have the weekly running costs. The set's already done, but you still have to pay rent, actors, and union people every week, and make that money back. For a musical like Phantom, that's estimated to be in the $750,000 to $1 million range because Phantom is a very elaborate show to make every week just to break even. [4:17] If you're doing a limited run, it's often built in that you need to be running at pure capacity. Into the Woods is still at the St. James, but it was originally scheduled for an eight-week run, and the only way that could've made money at eight weeks is if, for eight weeks it ran 100 percent. It did come close to that, but it's no longer coming close. [4:45] The longer the run goes on, sometimes the less you have to make that 100 percent. But you can't do badly; you have to still pack a fair amount of the house at full-price tickets if you're going to meet your running costs. And the minute you don't do that, you run the risk of being in the red. [5:05] Discounting tickets is a major factor. If you're selling 1,000 seats at $60 or $70, you're making $700,000 a week instead of $2 million a week. The Music Man doesn't discount, so it is taking in over $3 million every week. That will help it to be profitable by the time it closes. If they discounted by 50 percent, they wouldn't have a chance. [5:51] The Music Man had the option of running after Hugh Jackman decided to leave. And he is staying a few weeks past his contract. This has been done before when you have a star who is so powerful. Maybe the wisest business move, even if you could still make money — it's an expensive show with a large cast — is to take the money and go. [6:23] Hugh Jackman is one of those rare people who is a true movie star and a true theater star even though he has only been on Broadway three or four times, most notably, of course, in The Boy from Oz, his big Broadway debut. But he has created a huge following. Some people go back to see him four to six times. [7:04] There are shows that have always done stunt casting. You'll see, for example, Pamela Anderson doing Chicago. She was quite good. But more to the point, she brought in business. She had the highest grosses for Chicago in many months, if not years. And that was a perfect example of the right way to do stunt casting. [8:08] A lot of Broadway will be dominated, especially straight plays maybe more than musicals, by star casting, whether it's stunt casting or not. In a lot of cases, they're going to look for that star power to motivate the box office. [8:27] Now conversely, the musical, Some Like It Hot, stars Christian Borle, Adrianna Hicks, and J. Harrison Ghee, who, their talents notwithstanding, are not known stars. They are banking on the property and the careers of Scott Wittman and Marc Shaiman, who wrote the score. They have Tonys for Hairspray and they're very well known. [9:00] Brian doesn't think we're going to see a lot of truly original work on Broadway for a while. Everything will be based on a movie or a book or is a revival of a famous play. Theater that comes from scratch is few and far between. [9:21] This '22 to '23 will be the first “normal” Broadway theater season that we've had in several years now. I mean the 2019 to 2020 season got cut short, of course, because of Covid. What we're seeing now is a lot of flux. [9:42] This is a very unusual year in that a number of shows opened in December, including one, The Collaboration. It's an imagined conversation between Andy Warhol and Jean-Paul Basquiat. It's also being filmed simultaneously and it's coming in for a limited run. By the end of 2022, Broadway will be surprisingly full. [10:12] But January will bring the closing of Beetlejuice, after eight months. A Strange Loop, which won the Tony in 2022, for Best Musical, is closing on January fifteenth, which will make it, depending on how you count things, either the shortest or the third-shortest running Best Musical ever. There are also some limited runs now. [10:43] Phantom closes in February. But spring is usually the more prominent season than fall. Again, better weather, maybe more tourists, and closer to Tony time. Almost all of the big musical houses, The Winter Garden, the Marquis, and the St. James, are vacant for the spring. Brian wonders if the producers are hedging their bets. [11:20] Back to the Future, for example, is the kind of show that would probably have to take a million to a million-and-a-half every week just to be in break-even territory. [11:31] There is a symbiotic relationship between the New York City economy and Broadway. In the last full theater season, 2018 to 2019, Broadway ticket sales were $1.8 billion. That is more than the ten major league sporting teams in the New York City area, which is staggering, because what's more popular, sports or Broadway? [12:05] Can Broadway rely on locals? This fall, Broadway is doing surprisingly well without a huge tourist influx. There is a very strong local audience — New York City and the tri-state area, that will come to Broadway for something they want to see. The tourists augment locals in any season and are most important in spring and summer. [12:53] If we looked at a forecast and said that nobody is coming in the summer of 2023, that may be why spring producers are hedging their bet. You're never going to be able to run big, expensive shows without the tourist base. You can run Laura Linney for 16 weeks, and it's probably not a big deal because that's not what the tourists flock to. [13:37] When the tourists come, they want to see musicals. Broadway has some very long-running musicals like Hamilton, that's still bringing in insane amounts of money, Lion King, that's doing super well, and Wicked, that's still close to $2 million a week. They're there for the tourists. [14:01] A lot of tourists only come to New York once in their life and the one time they're coming they want to see Hamilton, The Lion King, and Wicked — the big, long-running shows. They don't necessarily want to see the hot, new show. Book of Mormon is running still on tourists. Chicago has run this long because tourists go see it. [14:33] What show will be the next “Phantom”? Chicago and Lion King, which opened in 1997, have run for 25 years. Will they run another ten? Lion King might. Its enduring popularity is because it is child-driven while pleasing to adults. There are always children being born. So Disney may have a chance to break the Broadway record. [15:27] Nobody would've bet on Chicago running 25 years. Chicago has the advantage of having made its money back so many times that its producers, led by Barry and Fran Weissler, if they want to just do this for the sake of doing it, they can run it. [15:34] Chicago is a very minimalist show; its running costs are very small, probably half a million or less. And so all you need to do is break that every week, give or take, and you can keep running. So those two have the chance to be the new Phantom. [15:55] We've seen recent revivals of the King & I, Carousel, Oklahoma, My Fair Lady; and South Pacific. How many of the great classic musicals are there left to recycle? The Sound of Music hasn't had a major Broadway production in around 25 years. So Brian won't be shocked if that comes down the pike. [16:35] We may be getting revivals featuring people of color or other non-traditional castings. There's a buzz for the first real revival ever of Kiss of the Spider Woman, which provides roles for three Latinx performers. Chita Rivera originated it but she was the only Latinx lead of the original threesome – we could easily have a revival of that. [17:14] All of the Lomans in Death of a Salesman, the five family members, are Black. The rest of the characters, who were always white, have remained white, which gives the play another dimension because we see interracial relationships and how that plays into the text. [17:40] There may be a way to breathe new life into “old shows” or revivals and bring new life to them in an interesting spin. Death of a Salesman is color-conscious casting. You know the Lomans are Black even though they have not changed the text. In the more popular color-blind casting, you're not supposed to think about their color at all. [18:16] There are producers that are in this for the glory and they'll produce things so they can get their Tony award. And there is the larger group of producers who treat theater as show business, not show art. They want to make money. If a particular type of play is not making money, you're not getting more of it. That's how this works. [18:45] If Brian could produce any show he wanted, with any star, in the world of show business, he would produce Audra McDonald in anything she wanted to do: Gypsy, A Little Night Music, Sweeney Todd. Audra McDonald and Stephen Sondheim are probably Brian's dream combination. [19:39] Patricia thanks Brian Lipton for joining us today on This is Capitalism and asks him to give our regards to Broadway!   Mentioned in This Episode: This is Capitalism Brian Scott Lipton Cititour.com TheaterMania.com Phantom of the Opera The Music Man The Boy from Oz Chicago Into the Woods Some Like it Hot The Collaboration Hairspray Back to the Future The Musical Hamilton The Lion King Wicked Beetlejuice the Musical A Strange Loop the Musical The King & I Carousel Oklahoma My Fair Lady South Pacific

FALSETTOS COMPOSER: William Finn LYRICIST: William Finn BOOK: William Finn and James Lapine DIRECTOR: James Lapine PRINCIPLE CAST: Stephen Bogardus (Whizzer), Michael Rupert (Marvin), Barbara Walsh (Trina) OPENING DATE: Apr 29, 1992 CLOSING DATE: Jun 27, 1993 PERFORMANCES: 486 SYNOPSIS: In the early 1980s, Marvin is married to Trina but is having an affair with Whizzer. Deciding to live his life as a gay man, Marvin leaves Trina and begins a rocky relationship with Whizzer, whose life is put in peril when he is diagnosed with AIDS.  Falsettos is the fusion of two William Finn musicals exploring the trajectory of gay male relationships during the AIDS epidemic, Falsettoland and March of the Falsettos. Jack Lechner highlights the reasons that, although Falsettos wasn't the first musical to tackle same-sex relationships or even the first musical to tackle the AIDS crisis, the show had a lasting emotional affect on audiences and influenced later works dealing with similar subject matter. Finn's libretto, with James Lapine's direction, lives in authentic ignorance of impending doom through all of Act I, and the familiar character development alongside witty lyrics set the audience up for a jolt when one of the main characters contracts a mysterious illness in Act II. Despite inherent controversies, producers Barry and Fran Weissler attempted to keep the marketing for the show broad to appeal to a wide range of audiences. Though the musical has blazed a trail which can be traced through later works, this chapter notes the equally significant influence Finn has had as an educator of young musical theatre writers and how he continued to develop his unique voice in musicals A New Brain and The 25th Annual Putnam County Spelling Bee. Jack Lechner wrote the lyrics for the 2010 off-Broadway musical The Kid. His producing credits in film and TV include The Fog Of War, Blue Valentine, The New Yorker Presents, and the pilot of Mad Men. As an executive at Miramax and Film Four, he was involved in the production and development of dozens of movies, including The Crying Game, Good Will Hunting, and The Full Monty. His book Can't Take My Eyes Off of You was published in 2000, and his picture book Mary Had A Little Lamp in 2008. Jack Lechner is chair of the graduate film program at the Columbia University School of the Arts. SOURCES March of the Falsettos/Falsettoland, Original Broadway Cast Recording. DRG Records (1992) Falsettos, starring Christian Borle and Andrew Rannells, directed by James Lapine and Matthew Diamond. Live From Lincoln Center (2017) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Greg is a gifted performer, teacher and devoted friend.  He is also a man with a past chocked full of adventures, challenges, addictions and triumphs.  This story bravely gives a no holds barred look at the good the bad and the ugly side of "being human" and relays to our listeners how Greg has reinvented himself and found the self love to make life truly worth living.  

After a short break, Backstage Babble is BACK, and I am so proud to present my episode with the extraordinarily talented singer, actress, and comedian Christine Pedi. With a career spanning three Broadway shows, a daily radio show on Sirius XM, long-running stints off-Broadway in two hit parody shows, several York Theater revivals, appearances on quite a few hit TV shows, and an ever-growing cabaret career, how could she not have stories to tell? Tune in to hear her talk about how she surprised her parents with her role in Chicago, the Forbidden Broadway skit that she suggested, the magic of Alvin Colt, the advice Jerry Herman gave her, getting compliments from Helen Gurley Brown, imitating Suze Orman to Suze Orman, the logistics of putting together a radio show, how Act One affected her Father, and what she hopes everyone will have learned from Covid. Plus: Angela Lansbury, Gerard Alessandrini, Rick Crom, Fran Weissler, and more!

The production team of "Gypsy" and "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof" - publicist Shirley Herz, casting director Stuart Howard, playwright/director Arthur Laurents, general manager/associate producer Alecia Parker, and producers Barry Weissler and Fran Weissler - talk about many aspects of production from casting to advertising to corporate investors, booking pre-Broadway tour stops, and their other productions of "Fiddler on the Roof", "La Cage aux Folles", and "My One and Only".

The production team of Gypsy and Cat On A Hot Tin Roof -- publicist Shirley Herz, casting director Stuart Howard, playwright/director Arthur Laurents (Tony winner for Hallelujah, Baby! and La Cage aux Folles), general manager/associate producer Alecia Parker, and six-time Tony Award-winning producers Barry Weissler and Fran Weissler -- talk about many aspects of production from casting to advertising to corporate investors, booking pre-Broadway tour stops, and their other productions of Fiddler on the Roof, La Cage aux Folles, and My One and Only.

This panel of producers (all of whom just happen to be women) -- Tisa Chang, Elizabeth Ireland McCann, Amy Nederlander, Daryl Roth, Fran Weissler, and Elizabeth Williams -- talks about the role of women in theater, how they are percieved, how they have come to the forefront of the theater community and how they have significantly impacted productions on Broadway and off-Broadway.

This panel of producers (all of whom just happen to be women) -- Tisa Chang, Elizabeth Ireland McCann (numerous Tony Awards including Copenhagen, Morning’s at Seven and Amadeus), Amy Nederlander, Daryl Roth (Tony winner for The Goat, or Who Is Sylvia?, Proof and August: Osage County). , Fran Weissler (Tony winner for Damn Yankees and last year’s revival of La Cage Aux Folles), and four-time Tony-winning Elizabeth Williams (for The Real Thing, Crazy for You and others) -- talks about the role of women in theater, how they are perceived, how they have come to the forefront of the theater community and how they have significantly impacted productions on Broadway and off-Broadway.

On the occasion of the 10th anniversary of their Broadway production of "Chicago", producers Fran and Barry Weissler reflect on 10 years with "Chicago" not just in the U.S., but internationally; recall their start producing tours of classic plays for Catholic schools in New Jersey; take exception to the application of the word 'revival' to their productions; and talk about the challenge of producing in the glare of tabloid attention. Original air date - November 10, 2006.

On the occasion of the 10th anniversary of their Broadway production of "Chicago", producers Fran and Barry Weissler reflect on 10 years with "Chicago" not just in the U.S., but internationally; recall their start producing tours of classic plays for Catholic schools in New Jersey; take exception to the application of the word 'revival' to their productions; and talk about the challenge of producing in the glare of tabloid attention. Original air date - November 10, 2006.

On the occasion of the 10th anniversary of their Broadway production of "Chicago", producers Fran and Barry Weissler reflect on 10 years with "Chicago" not just in the U.S., but internationally; recall their start producing tours of classic plays for Catholic schools in New Jersey; take exception to the application of the word 'revival' to their productions; and talk about the challenge of producing in the glare of tabloid attention. Original air date - November 10, 2006.