Podcast appearances and mentions of lori hellis

In early 2020, the story of Lori Daybell and her new husband, Chad Daybell, hit national news. They'd seemingly fled to Hawaii while two of Lori's children were missing, leaving a wake of mysterious deaths and attacks behind. The public and authorities pressed for answers, hoping Lori's children would come home safely, while allegations of fringe, neo-fundamentalist Mormon beliefs became a key element of the story. Lori is representing herself at trial this Spring in Arizona. With three convictions and a life sentence to her name already, she has pleaded not guilty in the conspiracy to kill her fourth husband, Charles Vallow. In today's episode, we welcome author and former criminal defense attorney Lori Hellis, who spent years researching the case for her book Children of Darkness and Light – Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell: A Story of Murderous Faith, out now. https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Children-of-Darkness-and-Light/Lori-Hellis/9781639367108 Keep up with us on Instagram @serialkillerspodcast! Have a story to share? Email us at serialkillerstories@spotify.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Do you love true crime stories and want to see how ADHD plays a role in them? Then, this episode is for you!Lori Hellis is a former lawyer turned true crime author. Lori believes she has ADHD, evident in her constant need for activity, family history of ADHD, and love for doodling. Her journey from law to writing is driven by her restless mind's need for new challenges and constant stimulation.Lori's impressive background includes working as a prosecutor, public defender, and advocate. She holds degrees in Journalism and Creative Nonfiction, which enable her to turn complex legal matters into compelling stories. Her first book, "The No-Nonsense Guide to Divorce," offers practical advice for Millennials. Lori also serves in the Air National Guard, demonstrating her commitment to helping others.In this episode, Lori gives us a fascinating view of the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case, a chilling story of missing children, doomsday beliefs, and mysterious deaths, that has captivated the nation. She shares her expert insights, explaining how her ADHD has helped her unravel complex legal narratives. Her upcoming book, "Children of Darkness and Light: Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell - A Story of Murderous Faith," promises to be a must-read when it releases on September 3, 2024.Lori's expert insights and engaging storytelling bring true crime to life, making this an episode you won't want to miss. Resources:Book Website: https://thelorivallowstory.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@childrenofdarknessandlight   Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelorivallowstory/ X: https://twitter.com/lorihellis   Facebook group, The Good Lori https://www.facebook.com/groups/277177093926535  ------Are You Ready to Discover Your Brilliance? Order Now: https://adhdforsmartwomen.com/bookJoin Your ADHD Brain is A-OK: https://adhdforsmartwomen.com/aokVisit our website: https://adhdforsmartwomen.comJoin our community of ADHD For Smart Ass Women: https://www.facebook.com/groups/tracyotsukaJoin What Do I Do With My Life Masterclass:spyhappy.me/classUnlock your best days with Blends:https://adhdforsmartwomen.com/blendsSend us a Text Message. Are you feeling uncertain about your life's direction? Join Tracy Otsuka's free "What Do I Do With My Life Masterclass" to discover how to make better, more confident decisions and realize your full potential. Become an expert on yourself and choose the right path forward. Register now at spyhappy.me/class.

When Chad Daybell's trial starts, will he play the "gullible victim" card, or will the evidence of his own end-times books and involvement in bizarre religious circles expose a calculating manipulator? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the potential defense strategy for Chad Daybell. Lori shares her belief that Chad's team will paint him as a naive, easily influenced man who was completely under the spell of Lori Vallow. They discuss the challenges of claiming ignorance when Chad not only authored numerous books about doomsday prophecies but was a regular speaker at events promoting these ideas.  Lori notes that Chad's writings and actions make it much harder for him to play the "innocent dope" than it was for Lori Vallow. The conversation also touches on the "doomsday prepper" subculture and why Utah seems particularly susceptible to multi-level marketing schemes. Closing Question: Could Chad Daybell have just been a fame-seeking author who found himself in too deep, or did he actively contribute to the tragic events? Pre-Order Lori's book! Lori Hellis, who's been deeply immersed in this case, offers expert insights in her upcoming book, "Children of Darkness and Light", available for pre-order now. Stayed tuned for her return to "Hidden Killers" later this year for an in-depth analysis! Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

When Chad Daybell's trial starts, will he play the "gullible victim" card, or will the evidence of his own end-times books and involvement in bizarre religious circles expose a calculating manipulator? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the potential defense strategy for Chad Daybell. Lori shares her belief that Chad's team will paint him as a naive, easily influenced man who was completely under the spell of Lori Vallow. They discuss the challenges of claiming ignorance when Chad not only authored numerous books about doomsday prophecies but was a regular speaker at events promoting these ideas.  Lori notes that Chad's writings and actions make it much harder for him to play the "innocent dope" than it was for Lori Vallow. The conversation also touches on the "doomsday prepper" subculture and why Utah seems particularly susceptible to multi-level marketing schemes. Closing Question: Could Chad Daybell have just been a fame-seeking author who found himself in too deep, or did he actively contribute to the tragic events? Pre-Order Lori's book! Lori Hellis, who's been deeply immersed in this case, offers expert insights in her upcoming book, "Children of Darkness and Light", available for pre-order now. Stayed tuned for her return to "Hidden Killers" later this year for an in-depth analysis! Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

When Chad Daybell's trial starts, will he play the "gullible victim" card, or will the evidence of his own end-times books and involvement in bizarre religious circles expose a calculating manipulator? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the potential defense strategy for Chad Daybell. Lori shares her belief that Chad's team will paint him as a naive, easily influenced man who was completely under the spell of Lori Vallow. They discuss the challenges of claiming ignorance when Chad not only authored numerous books about doomsday prophecies but was a regular speaker at events promoting these ideas.  Lori notes that Chad's writings and actions make it much harder for him to play the "innocent dope" than it was for Lori Vallow. The conversation also touches on the "doomsday prepper" subculture and why Utah seems particularly susceptible to multi-level marketing schemes. Closing Question: Could Chad Daybell have just been a fame-seeking author who found himself in too deep, or did he actively contribute to the tragic events? Pre-Order Lori's book! Lori Hellis, who's been deeply immersed in this case, offers expert insights in her upcoming book, "Children of Darkness and Light", available for pre-order now. Stayed tuned for her return to "Hidden Killers" later this year for an in-depth analysis! Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is Lori Vallow's narcissistic delusion so strong that she'll remain unfazed when her supposed 'end of the world' prophecy fails, and her own husband potentially betrays her? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis examine Lori Vallow's courtroom antics. Lori, currently writing a book on the case, describes Vallow's behavior as that of a narcissist who revels in the spotlight. They discuss what might happen when Lori's carefully constructed delusion starts crumbling around her.  Her supposed doomsday date will come and go, making her previous predictions about the apocalypse fall flat.  Additionally, with Chad Daybell's trial approaching, his defense appears likely to pin the blame squarely on Lori. Lori Hellis, familiar with the case's intricate details, explains why Lori's attorneys put up little defense, while Chad's lawyer, John Pryor, seems poised for a much more aggressive approach. Closing Question: Could the narcissist's mask finally slip, or will Lori Vallow continue to twist reality to fit her disturbing narrative?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Is Lori Vallow's narcissistic delusion so strong that she'll remain unfazed when her supposed 'end of the world' prophecy fails, and her own husband potentially betrays her? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis examine Lori Vallow's courtroom antics. Lori, currently writing a book on the case, describes Vallow's behavior as that of a narcissist who revels in the spotlight. They discuss what might happen when Lori's carefully constructed delusion starts crumbling around her.  Her supposed doomsday date will come and go, making her previous predictions about the apocalypse fall flat.  Additionally, with Chad Daybell's trial approaching, his defense appears likely to pin the blame squarely on Lori. Lori Hellis, familiar with the case's intricate details, explains why Lori's attorneys put up little defense, while Chad's lawyer, John Pryor, seems poised for a much more aggressive approach. Closing Question: Could the narcissist's mask finally slip, or will Lori Vallow continue to twist reality to fit her disturbing narrative?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is Lori Vallow's narcissistic delusion so strong that she'll remain unfazed when her supposed 'end of the world' prophecy fails, and her own husband potentially betrays her? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis examine Lori Vallow's courtroom antics. Lori, currently writing a book on the case, describes Vallow's behavior as that of a narcissist who revels in the spotlight. They discuss what might happen when Lori's carefully constructed delusion starts crumbling around her.  Her supposed doomsday date will come and go, making her previous predictions about the apocalypse fall flat.  Additionally, with Chad Daybell's trial approaching, his defense appears likely to pin the blame squarely on Lori. Lori Hellis, familiar with the case's intricate details, explains why Lori's attorneys put up little defense, while Chad's lawyer, John Pryor, seems poised for a much more aggressive approach. Closing Question: Could the narcissist's mask finally slip, or will Lori Vallow continue to twist reality to fit her disturbing narrative?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Why does the LDS Church seem like fertile ground for extremist groups preaching distorted beliefs, leading to horrific outcomes like child abuse? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis delve into the alarming pattern of "doomsday" groups emerging from within the LDS Church. Lori emphasizes the cultural insularity that contributes to the vulnerability of some members when confronted with charismatic leaders and distorted interpretations of doctrine. They discuss how seemingly normal, everyday people can be susceptible: "If the mainstream doctrine is 12 o'clock, the doctrines that the doomsday folks are embracing are really about 12:01." Lori's insights from her work on the Lori Vallow case further illuminate the chilling mindset of parents who justify abuse as preparing their children for the apocalypse. The conversation also touches on the potential for a major schism within the LDS Church, as a conservative faction seeks to return to a more fundamentalist version of Joseph Smith's teachings. Closing Question: How can we understand the risks within close-knit religious communities, and prevent future tragedies fueled by extremist ideology?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Why does the LDS Church seem like fertile ground for extremist groups preaching distorted beliefs, leading to horrific outcomes like child abuse? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis delve into the alarming pattern of "doomsday" groups emerging from within the LDS Church. Lori emphasizes the cultural insularity that contributes to the vulnerability of some members when confronted with charismatic leaders and distorted interpretations of doctrine. They discuss how seemingly normal, everyday people can be susceptible: "If the mainstream doctrine is 12 o'clock, the doctrines that the doomsday folks are embracing are really about 12:01." Lori's insights from her work on the Lori Vallow case further illuminate the chilling mindset of parents who justify abuse as preparing their children for the apocalypse. The conversation also touches on the potential for a major schism within the LDS Church, as a conservative faction seeks to return to a more fundamentalist version of Joseph Smith's teachings. Closing Question: How can we understand the risks within close-knit religious communities, and prevent future tragedies fueled by extremist ideology?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Why does the LDS Church seem like fertile ground for extremist groups preaching distorted beliefs, leading to horrific outcomes like child abuse? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis delve into the alarming pattern of "doomsday" groups emerging from within the LDS Church. Lori emphasizes the cultural insularity that contributes to the vulnerability of some members when confronted with charismatic leaders and distorted interpretations of doctrine. They discuss how seemingly normal, everyday people can be susceptible: "If the mainstream doctrine is 12 o'clock, the doctrines that the doomsday folks are embracing are really about 12:01." Lori's insights from her work on the Lori Vallow case further illuminate the chilling mindset of parents who justify abuse as preparing their children for the apocalypse. The conversation also touches on the potential for a major schism within the LDS Church, as a conservative faction seeks to return to a more fundamentalist version of Joseph Smith's teachings. Closing Question: How can we understand the risks within close-knit religious communities, and prevent future tragedies fueled by extremist ideology?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is Ruby Frankie a calculating monster, or a victim of the same distorted beliefs that fueled her crimes? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the sentencing of "Mormon mommy blogger" Ruby Frankie. She and her accomplice, Jody Hildebrandt, face a wide range of possible prison time (four to 60 years) with the decision ultimately resting with the parole board. Lori shares her prediction, noting that Hildebrandt, as a former therapist, likely bears greater responsibility in the eyes of the public.  They debate whether Ruby, as the mother, is in some ways more culpable for the horrific abuse of her own children than the outside influence of Hildebrandt. Lori's recent work on the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case offers chilling context. She highlights how Ruby's paranoia about hospitals and law enforcement aligns with deeply held beliefs among certain fringe groups within the LDS Church. Closing Question:  To what extent should Ruby Frankie's susceptibility to "doomsday prophecy" beliefs mitigate the severity of her crimes?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Is Ruby Frankie a calculating monster, or a victim of the same distorted beliefs that fueled her crimes? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the sentencing of "Mormon mommy blogger" Ruby Frankie. She and her accomplice, Jody Hildebrandt, face a wide range of possible prison time (four to 60 years) with the decision ultimately resting with the parole board. Lori shares her prediction, noting that Hildebrandt, as a former therapist, likely bears greater responsibility in the eyes of the public.  They debate whether Ruby, as the mother, is in some ways more culpable for the horrific abuse of her own children than the outside influence of Hildebrandt. Lori's recent work on the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case offers chilling context. She highlights how Ruby's paranoia about hospitals and law enforcement aligns with deeply held beliefs among certain fringe groups within the LDS Church. Closing Question:  To what extent should Ruby Frankie's susceptibility to "doomsday prophecy" beliefs mitigate the severity of her crimes?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is Ruby Frankie a calculating monster, or a victim of the same distorted beliefs that fueled her crimes? On this episode of "Hidden Killers", Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the sentencing of "Mormon mommy blogger" Ruby Frankie. She and her accomplice, Jody Hildebrandt, face a wide range of possible prison time (four to 60 years) with the decision ultimately resting with the parole board. Lori shares her prediction, noting that Hildebrandt, as a former therapist, likely bears greater responsibility in the eyes of the public.  They debate whether Ruby, as the mother, is in some ways more culpable for the horrific abuse of her own children than the outside influence of Hildebrandt. Lori's recent work on the Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell case offers chilling context. She highlights how Ruby's paranoia about hospitals and law enforcement aligns with deeply held beliefs among certain fringe groups within the LDS Church. Closing Question:  To what extent should Ruby Frankie's susceptibility to "doomsday prophecy" beliefs mitigate the severity of her crimes?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the Adam Montgomery murder trial. Despite the guilty verdict, many felt the trial exposed serious flaws in how the system addresses cases where domestic abuse and addiction collide. Lori offers insight, saying that those involved "live in a reality where people do things...that we would find really abhorrent...it makes sense in drug world."  They discuss whether Kayla Montgomery, though complicit in Harmony's horrific treatment, was also a victim of Adam's control. The conversation also examines the judge's controversial decision to allow Adam to be absent during his own trial. Lori suggests it may have been "a calculation...to deny him that opportunity" to disrupt proceedings. Closing Question:  Was making a deal with Kayla a necessary compromise to bring some measure of justice for Harmony, or does it leave a lingering sense of unease?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

In this episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the Adam Montgomery murder trial. Despite the guilty verdict, many felt the trial exposed serious flaws in how the system addresses cases where domestic abuse and addiction collide. Lori offers insight, saying that those involved "live in a reality where people do things...that we would find really abhorrent...it makes sense in drug world."  They discuss whether Kayla Montgomery, though complicit in Harmony's horrific treatment, was also a victim of Adam's control. The conversation also examines the judge's controversial decision to allow Adam to be absent during his own trial. Lori suggests it may have been "a calculation...to deny him that opportunity" to disrupt proceedings. Closing Question:  Was making a deal with Kayla a necessary compromise to bring some measure of justice for Harmony, or does it leave a lingering sense of unease?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In this episode of "Hidden Killers," Tony Brueski and former defense attorney Lori Hellis analyze the Adam Montgomery murder trial. Despite the guilty verdict, many felt the trial exposed serious flaws in how the system addresses cases where domestic abuse and addiction collide. Lori offers insight, saying that those involved "live in a reality where people do things...that we would find really abhorrent...it makes sense in drug world."  They discuss whether Kayla Montgomery, though complicit in Harmony's horrific treatment, was also a victim of Adam's control. The conversation also examines the judge's controversial decision to allow Adam to be absent during his own trial. Lori suggests it may have been "a calculation...to deny him that opportunity" to disrupt proceedings. Closing Question:  Was making a deal with Kayla a necessary compromise to bring some measure of justice for Harmony, or does it leave a lingering sense of unease?   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the quest for justice in the Alex Murdaugh case blurring the lines between right and wrong, and revealing deep-seated issues within the South Carolina legal system? These are the questions that Tony Brueski and former defense attorney, Lori Hellis, tackle in a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast as they discuss the shocking allegations of jury tampering and potential misconduct by Colleton County Clerk of Court, Rebecca Hill.   Alex Murdaugh has officially filed a motion in state court seeking a new trial, citing allegations of jury tampering and potentially damning misconduct. Hill, who remains in her position and denies the allegations, is at the center of this legal maelstrom. Lori Hellis, with her extensive background in law, provides a nuanced perspective on the implications of these allegations.    "If those allegations are true, and the judge who hears the motion believes that jurors could have been influenced by those comments, then Alex Murdaugh is entitled to a new trial," Hellis explains. This statement underscores the gravity of the situation, highlighting the importance of integrity and fairness within the legal system.    Hellis goes on to discuss the broader issues plaguing South Carolina's justice system, pointing out the incestuous relationships and revolving doors between law enforcement, legislators, judges, and lawyers. "The level of corruption, the level of control that a small number of people have over the justice system, is troubling," Hellis remarks, emphasizing the urgent need for reform and transparency.    The conversation takes a darker turn as they delve into the murky waters of Alex Murdaugh's lead counsel, Jim Griffin, and his role as a legislator, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest and undue influence. The possibility of third-party interference, particularly by the clerk of the court, adds another layer of complexity to the case.    The discussion shifts to Rebecca Hill's book and her public statements, scrutinizing them for potential clues or admissions of guilt. Hellis reads between the lines, questioning Hill's motivations and the potential impact of her words on the trial. "Did she have an agenda? You have to wonder," Hellis muses, leaving the audience to draw their own conclusions.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, Brueski and Hellis ponder the broader implications of the case. "Is this just how things run at that court in South Carolina? Is this an isolated incident, or a symptom of a systemic issue?" Brueski asks, challenging the audience to think critically about the state of the justice system, not just in South Carolina, but across the nation.    In the end, the conversation leaves listeners with more questions than answers, and a lingering sense of unease about the state of justice in South Carolina. The Alex Murdaugh case has peeled back the curtain, revealing a system rife with corruption, influence, and secrecy. As Hellis aptly notes, "These kinds of cases always create an avalanche effect."    The "Hidden Killers" podcast has once again succeeded in shedding light on the dark corners of the legal world, challenging its listeners to question everything and settle for nothing less than the truth. As the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, one can't help but wonder: what other secrets are hiding in the shadows, and what will it take to bring them to light? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Have you ever wondered why there seems to be a disproportionate number of cases involving members of the LDS Church, both current and former, who have been accused of serious crimes? This issue has been brought up multiple times on the podcast "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. In a recent episode, Brueski sat down with author and former defense attorney Lori Hellis to discuss the troubling trend of fantastical thinking within the LDS community, which in some cases, has led to heinous crimes.    Hellis explains that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which claims 17 million members worldwide, is separate from the 70 to 80 splinter organizations that still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. However, what is more concerning, according to Hellis, is the movement within the mainstream LDS Church of faithful members who subscribe to end times philosophies. This movement gained momentum in 2012 with the publication of the book “Visions of Glory,” which has created a groundswell of end times believers.    "The church is very much not just a faith, but it's also a culture and a very insulated culture," Hellis notes. This insulation, she argues, makes it easier for members to buy into the belief that they are God's chosen people and that the end times are near. Hellis suggests that this could lead to more cases like Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell, who believed they were called by God to lead the 144,000 and took drastic measures in the name of their beliefs.    Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell were involved in a series of events that resulted in the deaths of Lori's two children, Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow, as well as Chad's previous wife, Tammy Daybell. The couple's beliefs in end times and their supposed divine missions were central to the investigation, with Lori believing that her children had become zombies and needed to die to be freed from their possessed states.    Hellis posits that while Lori and Chad's belief system was on the extreme end of the spectrum, they were part of a much larger movement within the LDS Church. She goes on to suggest that we may see a major schism within the church in the next decade due to these extremist beliefs.    The conversation also touches on the recent cases of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke, and the abduction of young Blaise Thibodeau, all of which have connections to the end times movement within the LDS community. Hellis points out that many of these cases are interconnected with the LDS mental health system, raising concerns about the church's role and responsibility in these incidents.    Hellis does not want to denigrate the LDS Church, acknowledging that there are many faithful members who thrive in the church's community. However, she emphasizes the need for accountability within the church, urging those who are faithful to the church to stand up and speak out against these extremist beliefs.    "I think it's incumbent on those people who are faithful to the church to stand up and say, this is not what we believe and this is not what we condone," Hellis states.    Brueski agrees, adding that it is crucial for members of any organization to take action if they notice something wrong. "Stand up if something's wrong, raise your hand and work to fix it," he urges.    The conversation between Brueski and Hellis sheds light on a concerning trend within the LDS community, prompting important questions about the role of religious beliefs in violent crimes and the responsibility of religious communities to prevent these beliefs from turning deadly. As the episode draws to a close, one can't help but ponder: How can a faith community balance respecting individual beliefs while also preventing those beliefs from spiraling into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the battle over DNA evidence in the Bryan Kohberger case a pivotal moment for justice or a potential loophole for defense? This intriguing question sets the stage for our discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, on the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski.   In a case as complex and high-profile as Bryan Kohberger's, every piece of evidence, every legal motion, and every argument in court comes under intense scrutiny. The recent debate about access to genetic genealogy and DNA evidence has raised eyebrows and posed critical questions about the prosecution's methods and the defense's rights.    Hellis explains that while the defense does have access to the DNA evidence, what they are really after is an understanding of how the genetic genealogy led the prosecution to Kohberger, eventually linking him to his parent's house in Pennsylvania and leading to his arrest. "They want to know how the sausage is made,” Hellis puts it succinctly, emphasizing the infancy of the field of genetic genealogy and the uncharted territory the case is navigating.    In a world where commercial DNA databases have agreements in place to protect user information from law enforcement, there lies a significant challenge for the defense. They want to ensure that these databases were not misused in obtaining evidence against Kohberger. Hellis remarks, “It's a little bit difficult for them to be certain that those databases weren't misused unless they get the raw data of where these database connections were made.”    Hellis anticipates that judges will increasingly require the prosecution to provide detailed information on how they connected the dots using genetic genealogy. This move towards transparency is not only expected but necessary, as it ensures that both parties are playing fair and that the evidence brought forth is obtained legally and ethically.    But what is at stake for the defense? Hellis outlines a clear goal: to prove that the evidence was obtained in a way that violated Kohberger's rights, making it inadmissible in court. She likens it to an illegal search, emphasizing the importance of the Fourth Amendment in protecting citizens' rights against unlawful searches and seizures.    If the defense is successful in proving that the evidence was obtained illegally, it could deal a significant blow to the prosecution's case. However, Hellis argues that while it would weaken the case, it may not be fatal. There are other pieces of evidence and indications of probable cause that could potentially underpin Kohberger's arrest and the subsequent search of his parent's home.    Hellis's insights highlight a critical aspect of the legal system: the importance of transparency, legality, and ethical conduct in the pursuit of justice. She points out that while the government has nearly unlimited resources, the defendant often does not, underscoring the necessity for both parties to play fair and observe the rules.    As our discussion with Lori Hellis comes to a close, we are left with another intriguing question: How will the fight over DNA evidence and genetic genealogy impact the Bryan Kohberger case, and what does it mean for the future of legal proceedings in such complex and high-profile cases? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the legal community and the public will be watching closely, ensuring that justice is served, and rights are protected. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the impending transfer and potential retrial of Lori Vallow Daybell signal a significant shift in one of the most captivating legal sagas in recent history? This question looms large as we delve into a complex narrative brought to the fore in the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. The episode features an in-depth discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, providing keen insights on the mental health aspects, legal intricacies, and the stark differences between the legal proceedings in Idaho and Arizona.    The conversation takes a critical turn as it addresses Governor Brad Little's recent executive decision to extradite Lori Vallow Daybell to Arizona on charges of conspiracy to commit murder. This comes in the wake of an ongoing appeal process concerning her initial trial, introducing an array of legal and psychological considerations. Hellis aptly notes, "There's a lot of things to question about another Lori Vallow trial." The discussion underscores the paramount importance of addressing mental health issues within the legal context, particularly when they are as intricate and severe as they appear in Lori's case.    Hellis reflects on the uniqueness of the case, stating, "Lori Vallow is an enigma. She was functional on a day-to-day basis yet harbored deep and dangerous delusions." This duality poses a considerable challenge for the legal system, aiming to ensure justice while addressing the defendant's mental health needs appropriately.    In drawing parallels with Lori's previous legal proceedings, Hellis highlights the idiosyncrasies of Idaho's legal system, which notably does not permit a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' defense. This starkly contrasts with Arizona's legal stance, opening up a myriad of possibilities for Lori's defense team and potentially paving the way for a different outcome.    The lack of a robust defense in the original trial is a focal point of the conversation, with Hellis pointing out, "One of the reasons we didn't see a defense was because she really limited what her defense attorneys could say." This self-imposed limitation significantly hindered Lori's defense strategy, leaving many to wonder if a different approach might be adopted in Arizona, given the state's different legal provisions regarding mental health.    The forthcoming trial of Chad Daybell, Lori's husband, also casts a long shadow on the proceedings. Hellis anticipates a vigorous defense strategy from Chad's legal team, potentially shifting blame onto Lori. "I think we're going to see Lori was the femme fatale and Chad was just the dupe," Hellis speculates, setting the stage for a dramatic and potentially revealing court battle.    Hellis does not mince words when discussing the arduous journey Lori faces en route to Arizona, detailing the grueling and dehumanizing process prisoners often undergo during interstate transfers. This stark depiction serves as a poignant reminder of the harsh realities of the criminal justice system, a journey Lori must endure before facing her day in court once again.    The episode concludes with a potent question, pondering the unpredictable nature of high-profile legal battles and leaving listeners to reflect on the myriad of variables that could influence the final chapter of Lori Vallow Daybell's tumultuous story. As Hellis aptly puts it, "You never can predict except that it might be unpredictable." This sentiment encapsulates the essence of the Lori Vallow Daybell saga, a complex tapestry of legal battles, psychological turmoil, and unforeseen twists that continue to captivate and confound observers worldwide.    As Lori Vallow Daybell's journey through the legal system continues, one question remains at the forefront: Will the Arizona trial provide clarity and closure, or will it only deepen the mystery surrounding one of the most enigmatic legal cases in recent memory? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the world will be watching. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What twists and turns can we expect if Alex Murdaugh, a figure embroiled in scandal and crime, gets another shot in court? This burning question sets the stage for an in-depth discussion between Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, and former defense attorney Lori Hellis, exploring the potential implications and strategies in a hypothetical second trial for Murdaugh.    Alex Murdaugh's story is a tangled web of lies, financial crimes, and shocking revelations, making it a prime subject for legal analysts and crime enthusiasts alike. In their conversation, Brueski and Hellis dissect the prospects of a new trial, pondering whether the same defenses and arguments would resurface or if a fresh approach would be necessary.    Murdaugh's credibility took a nosedive during the first trial when he admitted to lying about his whereabouts on the night of the crime and his involvement in substantial financial wrongdoings. Hellis highlights that “the shock factor” of these admissions would be significantly diminished in a second trial, as the revelations are now public knowledge. The defense might need to tread a different path to address the changed dynamics and the heavy character weight of negativity now associated with Murdaugh.    Delving into the details, Hellis notes that Murdaugh's previous statements to law enforcement, particularly regarding his location at the kennels, remain a critical point of contention. The state could seize this opportunity to refine the timeline of events and strengthen the data-driven evidence. However, she also points out a potential shift in the evidentiary landscape, given Murdaugh's guilty plea to the financial crimes in federal court. This conviction might make it easier for the prosecution to introduce information about these prior bad acts, potentially bolstering their case.    Hellis and Brueski explore the strategic decisions the defense might face, particularly regarding whether Murdaugh should take the stand again. Given his narcissistic traits, Hellis speculates that Murdaugh, feeling confident in his own testimony, might choose to testify once more, despite the potential risks and against legal advice.    The conversation shifts to the crucial aspect of time and location, focusing on the challenging task of explaining Murdaugh's presence at the scene without implicating him in the murders. Hellis underscores the difficulty in concocting a plausible theory that accounts for his proximity while maintaining his innocence, emphasizing the need for substantial evidence to support any new narrative introduced by the defense.    Speculations abound regarding potential new elements in a second trial, including the introduction of testimony about external threats or pressures on Murdaugh. Hellis and Brueski contemplate whether such revelations would be deemed credible, questioning why such defenses were not presented during the first trial.    Hellis also sheds light on the procedural intricacies, explaining that if the first trial is invalidated, and a new trial is granted, the proceedings of the original trial would essentially be wiped clean, creating both opportunities and challenges in presenting evidence and constructing arguments.    The discussion concludes with an examination of certain evidence that might continue to tip the scales against Murdaugh, including the mysterious time lapse and steps taken at his mother's home after the crime. Hellis theorizes possible scenarios that could fit this puzzle piece, though she acknowledges the inherent complexities and uncertainties that surround the case.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, listeners are left pondering: If Murdaugh is granted a new trial, will the truth finally emerge from this labyrinth of deception and crime, or will the case remain an enigmatic jigsaw, with pieces that never quite fit together? Only time will tell as the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, captivating the public's attention and challenging the boundaries of legal analysis and crime-solving. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What twists and turns can we expect if Alex Murdaugh, a figure embroiled in scandal and crime, gets another shot in court? This burning question sets the stage for an in-depth discussion between Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, and former defense attorney Lori Hellis, exploring the potential implications and strategies in a hypothetical second trial for Murdaugh.    Alex Murdaugh's story is a tangled web of lies, financial crimes, and shocking revelations, making it a prime subject for legal analysts and crime enthusiasts alike. In their conversation, Brueski and Hellis dissect the prospects of a new trial, pondering whether the same defenses and arguments would resurface or if a fresh approach would be necessary.    Murdaugh's credibility took a nosedive during the first trial when he admitted to lying about his whereabouts on the night of the crime and his involvement in substantial financial wrongdoings. Hellis highlights that “the shock factor” of these admissions would be significantly diminished in a second trial, as the revelations are now public knowledge. The defense might need to tread a different path to address the changed dynamics and the heavy character weight of negativity now associated with Murdaugh.    Delving into the details, Hellis notes that Murdaugh's previous statements to law enforcement, particularly regarding his location at the kennels, remain a critical point of contention. The state could seize this opportunity to refine the timeline of events and strengthen the data-driven evidence. However, she also points out a potential shift in the evidentiary landscape, given Murdaugh's guilty plea to the financial crimes in federal court. This conviction might make it easier for the prosecution to introduce information about these prior bad acts, potentially bolstering their case.    Hellis and Brueski explore the strategic decisions the defense might face, particularly regarding whether Murdaugh should take the stand again. Given his narcissistic traits, Hellis speculates that Murdaugh, feeling confident in his own testimony, might choose to testify once more, despite the potential risks and against legal advice.    The conversation shifts to the crucial aspect of time and location, focusing on the challenging task of explaining Murdaugh's presence at the scene without implicating him in the murders. Hellis underscores the difficulty in concocting a plausible theory that accounts for his proximity while maintaining his innocence, emphasizing the need for substantial evidence to support any new narrative introduced by the defense.    Speculations abound regarding potential new elements in a second trial, including the introduction of testimony about external threats or pressures on Murdaugh. Hellis and Brueski contemplate whether such revelations would be deemed credible, questioning why such defenses were not presented during the first trial.    Hellis also sheds light on the procedural intricacies, explaining that if the first trial is invalidated, and a new trial is granted, the proceedings of the original trial would essentially be wiped clean, creating both opportunities and challenges in presenting evidence and constructing arguments.    The discussion concludes with an examination of certain evidence that might continue to tip the scales against Murdaugh, including the mysterious time lapse and steps taken at his mother's home after the crime. Hellis theorizes possible scenarios that could fit this puzzle piece, though she acknowledges the inherent complexities and uncertainties that surround the case.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, listeners are left pondering: If Murdaugh is granted a new trial, will the truth finally emerge from this labyrinth of deception and crime, or will the case remain an enigmatic jigsaw, with pieces that never quite fit together? Only time will tell as the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, captivating the public's attention and challenging the boundaries of legal analysis and crime-solving. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the battle over DNA evidence in the Bryan Kohberger case a pivotal moment for justice or a potential loophole for defense? This intriguing question sets the stage for our discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, on the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski.   In a case as complex and high-profile as Bryan Kohberger's, every piece of evidence, every legal motion, and every argument in court comes under intense scrutiny. The recent debate about access to genetic genealogy and DNA evidence has raised eyebrows and posed critical questions about the prosecution's methods and the defense's rights.    Hellis explains that while the defense does have access to the DNA evidence, what they are really after is an understanding of how the genetic genealogy led the prosecution to Kohberger, eventually linking him to his parent's house in Pennsylvania and leading to his arrest. "They want to know how the sausage is made,” Hellis puts it succinctly, emphasizing the infancy of the field of genetic genealogy and the uncharted territory the case is navigating.    In a world where commercial DNA databases have agreements in place to protect user information from law enforcement, there lies a significant challenge for the defense. They want to ensure that these databases were not misused in obtaining evidence against Kohberger. Hellis remarks, “It's a little bit difficult for them to be certain that those databases weren't misused unless they get the raw data of where these database connections were made.”    Hellis anticipates that judges will increasingly require the prosecution to provide detailed information on how they connected the dots using genetic genealogy. This move towards transparency is not only expected but necessary, as it ensures that both parties are playing fair and that the evidence brought forth is obtained legally and ethically.    But what is at stake for the defense? Hellis outlines a clear goal: to prove that the evidence was obtained in a way that violated Kohberger's rights, making it inadmissible in court. She likens it to an illegal search, emphasizing the importance of the Fourth Amendment in protecting citizens' rights against unlawful searches and seizures.    If the defense is successful in proving that the evidence was obtained illegally, it could deal a significant blow to the prosecution's case. However, Hellis argues that while it would weaken the case, it may not be fatal. There are other pieces of evidence and indications of probable cause that could potentially underpin Kohberger's arrest and the subsequent search of his parent's home.    Hellis's insights highlight a critical aspect of the legal system: the importance of transparency, legality, and ethical conduct in the pursuit of justice. She points out that while the government has nearly unlimited resources, the defendant often does not, underscoring the necessity for both parties to play fair and observe the rules.    As our discussion with Lori Hellis comes to a close, we are left with another intriguing question: How will the fight over DNA evidence and genetic genealogy impact the Bryan Kohberger case, and what does it mean for the future of legal proceedings in such complex and high-profile cases? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the legal community and the public will be watching closely, ensuring that justice is served, and rights are protected. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the quest for justice in the Alex Murdaugh case blurring the lines between right and wrong, and revealing deep-seated issues within the South Carolina legal system? These are the questions that Tony Brueski and former defense attorney, Lori Hellis, tackle in a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast as they discuss the shocking allegations of jury tampering and potential misconduct by Colleton County Clerk of Court, Rebecca Hill.   Alex Murdaugh has officially filed a motion in state court seeking a new trial, citing allegations of jury tampering and potentially damning misconduct. Hill, who remains in her position and denies the allegations, is at the center of this legal maelstrom. Lori Hellis, with her extensive background in law, provides a nuanced perspective on the implications of these allegations.    "If those allegations are true, and the judge who hears the motion believes that jurors could have been influenced by those comments, then Alex Murdaugh is entitled to a new trial," Hellis explains. This statement underscores the gravity of the situation, highlighting the importance of integrity and fairness within the legal system.    Hellis goes on to discuss the broader issues plaguing South Carolina's justice system, pointing out the incestuous relationships and revolving doors between law enforcement, legislators, judges, and lawyers. "The level of corruption, the level of control that a small number of people have over the justice system, is troubling," Hellis remarks, emphasizing the urgent need for reform and transparency.    The conversation takes a darker turn as they delve into the murky waters of Alex Murdaugh's lead counsel, Jim Griffin, and his role as a legislator, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest and undue influence. The possibility of third-party interference, particularly by the clerk of the court, adds another layer of complexity to the case.    The discussion shifts to Rebecca Hill's book and her public statements, scrutinizing them for potential clues or admissions of guilt. Hellis reads between the lines, questioning Hill's motivations and the potential impact of her words on the trial. "Did she have an agenda? You have to wonder," Hellis muses, leaving the audience to draw their own conclusions.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, Brueski and Hellis ponder the broader implications of the case. "Is this just how things run at that court in South Carolina? Is this an isolated incident, or a symptom of a systemic issue?" Brueski asks, challenging the audience to think critically about the state of the justice system, not just in South Carolina, but across the nation.    In the end, the conversation leaves listeners with more questions than answers, and a lingering sense of unease about the state of justice in South Carolina. The Alex Murdaugh case has peeled back the curtain, revealing a system rife with corruption, influence, and secrecy. As Hellis aptly notes, "These kinds of cases always create an avalanche effect."    The "Hidden Killers" podcast has once again succeeded in shedding light on the dark corners of the legal world, challenging its listeners to question everything and settle for nothing less than the truth. As the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, one can't help but wonder: what other secrets are hiding in the shadows, and what will it take to bring them to light? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Have you ever wondered why there seems to be a disproportionate number of cases involving members of the LDS Church, both current and former, who have been accused of serious crimes? This issue has been brought up multiple times on the podcast "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. In a recent episode, Brueski sat down with author and former defense attorney Lori Hellis to discuss the troubling trend of fantastical thinking within the LDS community, which in some cases, has led to heinous crimes.    Hellis explains that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which claims 17 million members worldwide, is separate from the 70 to 80 splinter organizations that still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. However, what is more concerning, according to Hellis, is the movement within the mainstream LDS Church of faithful members who subscribe to end times philosophies. This movement gained momentum in 2012 with the publication of the book “Visions of Glory,” which has created a groundswell of end times believers.    "The church is very much not just a faith, but it's also a culture and a very insulated culture," Hellis notes. This insulation, she argues, makes it easier for members to buy into the belief that they are God's chosen people and that the end times are near. Hellis suggests that this could lead to more cases like Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell, who believed they were called by God to lead the 144,000 and took drastic measures in the name of their beliefs.    Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell were involved in a series of events that resulted in the deaths of Lori's two children, Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow, as well as Chad's previous wife, Tammy Daybell. The couple's beliefs in end times and their supposed divine missions were central to the investigation, with Lori believing that her children had become zombies and needed to die to be freed from their possessed states.    Hellis posits that while Lori and Chad's belief system was on the extreme end of the spectrum, they were part of a much larger movement within the LDS Church. She goes on to suggest that we may see a major schism within the church in the next decade due to these extremist beliefs.    The conversation also touches on the recent cases of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke, and the abduction of young Blaise Thibodeau, all of which have connections to the end times movement within the LDS community. Hellis points out that many of these cases are interconnected with the LDS mental health system, raising concerns about the church's role and responsibility in these incidents.    Hellis does not want to denigrate the LDS Church, acknowledging that there are many faithful members who thrive in the church's community. However, she emphasizes the need for accountability within the church, urging those who are faithful to the church to stand up and speak out against these extremist beliefs.    "I think it's incumbent on those people who are faithful to the church to stand up and say, this is not what we believe and this is not what we condone," Hellis states.    Brueski agrees, adding that it is crucial for members of any organization to take action if they notice something wrong. "Stand up if something's wrong, raise your hand and work to fix it," he urges.    The conversation between Brueski and Hellis sheds light on a concerning trend within the LDS community, prompting important questions about the role of religious beliefs in violent crimes and the responsibility of religious communities to prevent these beliefs from turning deadly. As the episode draws to a close, one can't help but ponder: How can a faith community balance respecting individual beliefs while also preventing those beliefs from spiraling into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the impending transfer and potential retrial of Lori Vallow Daybell signal a significant shift in one of the most captivating legal sagas in recent history? This question looms large as we delve into a complex narrative brought to the fore in the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. The episode features an in-depth discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, providing keen insights on the mental health aspects, legal intricacies, and the stark differences between the legal proceedings in Idaho and Arizona.    The conversation takes a critical turn as it addresses Governor Brad Little's recent executive decision to extradite Lori Vallow Daybell to Arizona on charges of conspiracy to commit murder. This comes in the wake of an ongoing appeal process concerning her initial trial, introducing an array of legal and psychological considerations. Hellis aptly notes, "There's a lot of things to question about another Lori Vallow trial." The discussion underscores the paramount importance of addressing mental health issues within the legal context, particularly when they are as intricate and severe as they appear in Lori's case.    Hellis reflects on the uniqueness of the case, stating, "Lori Vallow is an enigma. She was functional on a day-to-day basis yet harbored deep and dangerous delusions." This duality poses a considerable challenge for the legal system, aiming to ensure justice while addressing the defendant's mental health needs appropriately.    In drawing parallels with Lori's previous legal proceedings, Hellis highlights the idiosyncrasies of Idaho's legal system, which notably does not permit a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' defense. This starkly contrasts with Arizona's legal stance, opening up a myriad of possibilities for Lori's defense team and potentially paving the way for a different outcome.    The lack of a robust defense in the original trial is a focal point of the conversation, with Hellis pointing out, "One of the reasons we didn't see a defense was because she really limited what her defense attorneys could say." This self-imposed limitation significantly hindered Lori's defense strategy, leaving many to wonder if a different approach might be adopted in Arizona, given the state's different legal provisions regarding mental health.    The forthcoming trial of Chad Daybell, Lori's husband, also casts a long shadow on the proceedings. Hellis anticipates a vigorous defense strategy from Chad's legal team, potentially shifting blame onto Lori. "I think we're going to see Lori was the femme fatale and Chad was just the dupe," Hellis speculates, setting the stage for a dramatic and potentially revealing court battle.    Hellis does not mince words when discussing the arduous journey Lori faces en route to Arizona, detailing the grueling and dehumanizing process prisoners often undergo during interstate transfers. This stark depiction serves as a poignant reminder of the harsh realities of the criminal justice system, a journey Lori must endure before facing her day in court once again.    The episode concludes with a potent question, pondering the unpredictable nature of high-profile legal battles and leaving listeners to reflect on the myriad of variables that could influence the final chapter of Lori Vallow Daybell's tumultuous story. As Hellis aptly puts it, "You never can predict except that it might be unpredictable." This sentiment encapsulates the essence of the Lori Vallow Daybell saga, a complex tapestry of legal battles, psychological turmoil, and unforeseen twists that continue to captivate and confound observers worldwide.    As Lori Vallow Daybell's journey through the legal system continues, one question remains at the forefront: Will the Arizona trial provide clarity and closure, or will it only deepen the mystery surrounding one of the most enigmatic legal cases in recent memory? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the world will be watching. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the quest for justice in the Alex Murdaugh case blurring the lines between right and wrong, and revealing deep-seated issues within the South Carolina legal system? These are the questions that Tony Brueski and former defense attorney, Lori Hellis, tackle in a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast as they discuss the shocking allegations of jury tampering and potential misconduct by Colleton County Clerk of Court, Rebecca Hill.   Alex Murdaugh has officially filed a motion in state court seeking a new trial, citing allegations of jury tampering and potentially damning misconduct. Hill, who remains in her position and denies the allegations, is at the center of this legal maelstrom. Lori Hellis, with her extensive background in law, provides a nuanced perspective on the implications of these allegations.    "If those allegations are true, and the judge who hears the motion believes that jurors could have been influenced by those comments, then Alex Murdaugh is entitled to a new trial," Hellis explains. This statement underscores the gravity of the situation, highlighting the importance of integrity and fairness within the legal system.    Hellis goes on to discuss the broader issues plaguing South Carolina's justice system, pointing out the incestuous relationships and revolving doors between law enforcement, legislators, judges, and lawyers. "The level of corruption, the level of control that a small number of people have over the justice system, is troubling," Hellis remarks, emphasizing the urgent need for reform and transparency.    The conversation takes a darker turn as they delve into the murky waters of Alex Murdaugh's lead counsel, Jim Griffin, and his role as a legislator, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest and undue influence. The possibility of third-party interference, particularly by the clerk of the court, adds another layer of complexity to the case.    The discussion shifts to Rebecca Hill's book and her public statements, scrutinizing them for potential clues or admissions of guilt. Hellis reads between the lines, questioning Hill's motivations and the potential impact of her words on the trial. "Did she have an agenda? You have to wonder," Hellis muses, leaving the audience to draw their own conclusions.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, Brueski and Hellis ponder the broader implications of the case. "Is this just how things run at that court in South Carolina? Is this an isolated incident, or a symptom of a systemic issue?" Brueski asks, challenging the audience to think critically about the state of the justice system, not just in South Carolina, but across the nation.    In the end, the conversation leaves listeners with more questions than answers, and a lingering sense of unease about the state of justice in South Carolina. The Alex Murdaugh case has peeled back the curtain, revealing a system rife with corruption, influence, and secrecy. As Hellis aptly notes, "These kinds of cases always create an avalanche effect."    The "Hidden Killers" podcast has once again succeeded in shedding light on the dark corners of the legal world, challenging its listeners to question everything and settle for nothing less than the truth. As the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, one can't help but wonder: what other secrets are hiding in the shadows, and what will it take to bring them to light? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What twists and turns can we expect if Alex Murdaugh, a figure embroiled in scandal and crime, gets another shot in court? This burning question sets the stage for an in-depth discussion between Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, and former defense attorney Lori Hellis, exploring the potential implications and strategies in a hypothetical second trial for Murdaugh.    Alex Murdaugh's story is a tangled web of lies, financial crimes, and shocking revelations, making it a prime subject for legal analysts and crime enthusiasts alike. In their conversation, Brueski and Hellis dissect the prospects of a new trial, pondering whether the same defenses and arguments would resurface or if a fresh approach would be necessary.    Murdaugh's credibility took a nosedive during the first trial when he admitted to lying about his whereabouts on the night of the crime and his involvement in substantial financial wrongdoings. Hellis highlights that “the shock factor” of these admissions would be significantly diminished in a second trial, as the revelations are now public knowledge. The defense might need to tread a different path to address the changed dynamics and the heavy character weight of negativity now associated with Murdaugh.    Delving into the details, Hellis notes that Murdaugh's previous statements to law enforcement, particularly regarding his location at the kennels, remain a critical point of contention. The state could seize this opportunity to refine the timeline of events and strengthen the data-driven evidence. However, she also points out a potential shift in the evidentiary landscape, given Murdaugh's guilty plea to the financial crimes in federal court. This conviction might make it easier for the prosecution to introduce information about these prior bad acts, potentially bolstering their case.    Hellis and Brueski explore the strategic decisions the defense might face, particularly regarding whether Murdaugh should take the stand again. Given his narcissistic traits, Hellis speculates that Murdaugh, feeling confident in his own testimony, might choose to testify once more, despite the potential risks and against legal advice.    The conversation shifts to the crucial aspect of time and location, focusing on the challenging task of explaining Murdaugh's presence at the scene without implicating him in the murders. Hellis underscores the difficulty in concocting a plausible theory that accounts for his proximity while maintaining his innocence, emphasizing the need for substantial evidence to support any new narrative introduced by the defense.    Speculations abound regarding potential new elements in a second trial, including the introduction of testimony about external threats or pressures on Murdaugh. Hellis and Brueski contemplate whether such revelations would be deemed credible, questioning why such defenses were not presented during the first trial.    Hellis also sheds light on the procedural intricacies, explaining that if the first trial is invalidated, and a new trial is granted, the proceedings of the original trial would essentially be wiped clean, creating both opportunities and challenges in presenting evidence and constructing arguments.    The discussion concludes with an examination of certain evidence that might continue to tip the scales against Murdaugh, including the mysterious time lapse and steps taken at his mother's home after the crime. Hellis theorizes possible scenarios that could fit this puzzle piece, though she acknowledges the inherent complexities and uncertainties that surround the case.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, listeners are left pondering: If Murdaugh is granted a new trial, will the truth finally emerge from this labyrinth of deception and crime, or will the case remain an enigmatic jigsaw, with pieces that never quite fit together? Only time will tell as the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, captivating the public's attention and challenging the boundaries of legal analysis and crime-solving. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What twists and turns can we expect if Alex Murdaugh, a figure embroiled in scandal and crime, gets another shot in court? This burning question sets the stage for an in-depth discussion between Tony Brueski, host of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, and former defense attorney Lori Hellis, exploring the potential implications and strategies in a hypothetical second trial for Murdaugh.    Alex Murdaugh's story is a tangled web of lies, financial crimes, and shocking revelations, making it a prime subject for legal analysts and crime enthusiasts alike. In their conversation, Brueski and Hellis dissect the prospects of a new trial, pondering whether the same defenses and arguments would resurface or if a fresh approach would be necessary.    Murdaugh's credibility took a nosedive during the first trial when he admitted to lying about his whereabouts on the night of the crime and his involvement in substantial financial wrongdoings. Hellis highlights that “the shock factor” of these admissions would be significantly diminished in a second trial, as the revelations are now public knowledge. The defense might need to tread a different path to address the changed dynamics and the heavy character weight of negativity now associated with Murdaugh.    Delving into the details, Hellis notes that Murdaugh's previous statements to law enforcement, particularly regarding his location at the kennels, remain a critical point of contention. The state could seize this opportunity to refine the timeline of events and strengthen the data-driven evidence. However, she also points out a potential shift in the evidentiary landscape, given Murdaugh's guilty plea to the financial crimes in federal court. This conviction might make it easier for the prosecution to introduce information about these prior bad acts, potentially bolstering their case.    Hellis and Brueski explore the strategic decisions the defense might face, particularly regarding whether Murdaugh should take the stand again. Given his narcissistic traits, Hellis speculates that Murdaugh, feeling confident in his own testimony, might choose to testify once more, despite the potential risks and against legal advice.    The conversation shifts to the crucial aspect of time and location, focusing on the challenging task of explaining Murdaugh's presence at the scene without implicating him in the murders. Hellis underscores the difficulty in concocting a plausible theory that accounts for his proximity while maintaining his innocence, emphasizing the need for substantial evidence to support any new narrative introduced by the defense.    Speculations abound regarding potential new elements in a second trial, including the introduction of testimony about external threats or pressures on Murdaugh. Hellis and Brueski contemplate whether such revelations would be deemed credible, questioning why such defenses were not presented during the first trial.    Hellis also sheds light on the procedural intricacies, explaining that if the first trial is invalidated, and a new trial is granted, the proceedings of the original trial would essentially be wiped clean, creating both opportunities and challenges in presenting evidence and constructing arguments.    The discussion concludes with an examination of certain evidence that might continue to tip the scales against Murdaugh, including the mysterious time lapse and steps taken at his mother's home after the crime. Hellis theorizes possible scenarios that could fit this puzzle piece, though she acknowledges the inherent complexities and uncertainties that surround the case.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, listeners are left pondering: If Murdaugh is granted a new trial, will the truth finally emerge from this labyrinth of deception and crime, or will the case remain an enigmatic jigsaw, with pieces that never quite fit together? Only time will tell as the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, captivating the public's attention and challenging the boundaries of legal analysis and crime-solving. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the impending transfer and potential retrial of Lori Vallow Daybell signal a significant shift in one of the most captivating legal sagas in recent history? This question looms large as we delve into a complex narrative brought to the fore in the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. The episode features an in-depth discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, providing keen insights on the mental health aspects, legal intricacies, and the stark differences between the legal proceedings in Idaho and Arizona.    The conversation takes a critical turn as it addresses Governor Brad Little's recent executive decision to extradite Lori Vallow Daybell to Arizona on charges of conspiracy to commit murder. This comes in the wake of an ongoing appeal process concerning her initial trial, introducing an array of legal and psychological considerations. Hellis aptly notes, "There's a lot of things to question about another Lori Vallow trial." The discussion underscores the paramount importance of addressing mental health issues within the legal context, particularly when they are as intricate and severe as they appear in Lori's case.    Hellis reflects on the uniqueness of the case, stating, "Lori Vallow is an enigma. She was functional on a day-to-day basis yet harbored deep and dangerous delusions." This duality poses a considerable challenge for the legal system, aiming to ensure justice while addressing the defendant's mental health needs appropriately.    In drawing parallels with Lori's previous legal proceedings, Hellis highlights the idiosyncrasies of Idaho's legal system, which notably does not permit a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' defense. This starkly contrasts with Arizona's legal stance, opening up a myriad of possibilities for Lori's defense team and potentially paving the way for a different outcome.    The lack of a robust defense in the original trial is a focal point of the conversation, with Hellis pointing out, "One of the reasons we didn't see a defense was because she really limited what her defense attorneys could say." This self-imposed limitation significantly hindered Lori's defense strategy, leaving many to wonder if a different approach might be adopted in Arizona, given the state's different legal provisions regarding mental health.    The forthcoming trial of Chad Daybell, Lori's husband, also casts a long shadow on the proceedings. Hellis anticipates a vigorous defense strategy from Chad's legal team, potentially shifting blame onto Lori. "I think we're going to see Lori was the femme fatale and Chad was just the dupe," Hellis speculates, setting the stage for a dramatic and potentially revealing court battle.    Hellis does not mince words when discussing the arduous journey Lori faces en route to Arizona, detailing the grueling and dehumanizing process prisoners often undergo during interstate transfers. This stark depiction serves as a poignant reminder of the harsh realities of the criminal justice system, a journey Lori must endure before facing her day in court once again.    The episode concludes with a potent question, pondering the unpredictable nature of high-profile legal battles and leaving listeners to reflect on the myriad of variables that could influence the final chapter of Lori Vallow Daybell's tumultuous story. As Hellis aptly puts it, "You never can predict except that it might be unpredictable." This sentiment encapsulates the essence of the Lori Vallow Daybell saga, a complex tapestry of legal battles, psychological turmoil, and unforeseen twists that continue to captivate and confound observers worldwide.    As Lori Vallow Daybell's journey through the legal system continues, one question remains at the forefront: Will the Arizona trial provide clarity and closure, or will it only deepen the mystery surrounding one of the most enigmatic legal cases in recent memory? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the world will be watching. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the battle over DNA evidence in the Bryan Kohberger case a pivotal moment for justice or a potential loophole for defense? This intriguing question sets the stage for our discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, on the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski.   In a case as complex and high-profile as Bryan Kohberger's, every piece of evidence, every legal motion, and every argument in court comes under intense scrutiny. The recent debate about access to genetic genealogy and DNA evidence has raised eyebrows and posed critical questions about the prosecution's methods and the defense's rights.    Hellis explains that while the defense does have access to the DNA evidence, what they are really after is an understanding of how the genetic genealogy led the prosecution to Kohberger, eventually linking him to his parent's house in Pennsylvania and leading to his arrest. "They want to know how the sausage is made,” Hellis puts it succinctly, emphasizing the infancy of the field of genetic genealogy and the uncharted territory the case is navigating.    In a world where commercial DNA databases have agreements in place to protect user information from law enforcement, there lies a significant challenge for the defense. They want to ensure that these databases were not misused in obtaining evidence against Kohberger. Hellis remarks, “It's a little bit difficult for them to be certain that those databases weren't misused unless they get the raw data of where these database connections were made.”    Hellis anticipates that judges will increasingly require the prosecution to provide detailed information on how they connected the dots using genetic genealogy. This move towards transparency is not only expected but necessary, as it ensures that both parties are playing fair and that the evidence brought forth is obtained legally and ethically.    But what is at stake for the defense? Hellis outlines a clear goal: to prove that the evidence was obtained in a way that violated Kohberger's rights, making it inadmissible in court. She likens it to an illegal search, emphasizing the importance of the Fourth Amendment in protecting citizens' rights against unlawful searches and seizures.    If the defense is successful in proving that the evidence was obtained illegally, it could deal a significant blow to the prosecution's case. However, Hellis argues that while it would weaken the case, it may not be fatal. There are other pieces of evidence and indications of probable cause that could potentially underpin Kohberger's arrest and the subsequent search of his parent's home.    Hellis's insights highlight a critical aspect of the legal system: the importance of transparency, legality, and ethical conduct in the pursuit of justice. She points out that while the government has nearly unlimited resources, the defendant often does not, underscoring the necessity for both parties to play fair and observe the rules.    As our discussion with Lori Hellis comes to a close, we are left with another intriguing question: How will the fight over DNA evidence and genetic genealogy impact the Bryan Kohberger case, and what does it mean for the future of legal proceedings in such complex and high-profile cases? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the legal community and the public will be watching closely, ensuring that justice is served, and rights are protected. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Have you ever wondered why there seems to be a disproportionate number of cases involving members of the LDS Church, both current and former, who have been accused of serious crimes? This issue has been brought up multiple times on the podcast "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. In a recent episode, Brueski sat down with author and former defense attorney Lori Hellis to discuss the troubling trend of fantastical thinking within the LDS community, which in some cases, has led to heinous crimes.    Hellis explains that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which claims 17 million members worldwide, is separate from the 70 to 80 splinter organizations that still follow the teachings of Joseph Smith. However, what is more concerning, according to Hellis, is the movement within the mainstream LDS Church of faithful members who subscribe to end times philosophies. This movement gained momentum in 2012 with the publication of the book “Visions of Glory,” which has created a groundswell of end times believers.    "The church is very much not just a faith, but it's also a culture and a very insulated culture," Hellis notes. This insulation, she argues, makes it easier for members to buy into the belief that they are God's chosen people and that the end times are near. Hellis suggests that this could lead to more cases like Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell, who believed they were called by God to lead the 144,000 and took drastic measures in the name of their beliefs.    Lori Vallow Daybell and Chad Daybell were involved in a series of events that resulted in the deaths of Lori's two children, Tylee Ryan and JJ Vallow, as well as Chad's previous wife, Tammy Daybell. The couple's beliefs in end times and their supposed divine missions were central to the investigation, with Lori believing that her children had become zombies and needed to die to be freed from their possessed states.    Hellis posits that while Lori and Chad's belief system was on the extreme end of the spectrum, they were part of a much larger movement within the LDS Church. She goes on to suggest that we may see a major schism within the church in the next decade due to these extremist beliefs.    The conversation also touches on the recent cases of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke, and the abduction of young Blaise Thibodeau, all of which have connections to the end times movement within the LDS community. Hellis points out that many of these cases are interconnected with the LDS mental health system, raising concerns about the church's role and responsibility in these incidents.    Hellis does not want to denigrate the LDS Church, acknowledging that there are many faithful members who thrive in the church's community. However, she emphasizes the need for accountability within the church, urging those who are faithful to the church to stand up and speak out against these extremist beliefs.    "I think it's incumbent on those people who are faithful to the church to stand up and say, this is not what we believe and this is not what we condone," Hellis states.    Brueski agrees, adding that it is crucial for members of any organization to take action if they notice something wrong. "Stand up if something's wrong, raise your hand and work to fix it," he urges.    The conversation between Brueski and Hellis sheds light on a concerning trend within the LDS community, prompting important questions about the role of religious beliefs in violent crimes and the responsibility of religious communities to prevent these beliefs from turning deadly. As the episode draws to a close, one can't help but ponder: How can a faith community balance respecting individual beliefs while also preventing those beliefs from spiraling into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the battle over DNA evidence in the Bryan Kohberger case a pivotal moment for justice or a potential loophole for defense? This intriguing question sets the stage for our discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, on the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski.   In a case as complex and high-profile as Bryan Kohberger's, every piece of evidence, every legal motion, and every argument in court comes under intense scrutiny. The recent debate about access to genetic genealogy and DNA evidence has raised eyebrows and posed critical questions about the prosecution's methods and the defense's rights.    Hellis explains that while the defense does have access to the DNA evidence, what they are really after is an understanding of how the genetic genealogy led the prosecution to Kohberger, eventually linking him to his parent's house in Pennsylvania and leading to his arrest. "They want to know how the sausage is made,” Hellis puts it succinctly, emphasizing the infancy of the field of genetic genealogy and the uncharted territory the case is navigating.    In a world where commercial DNA databases have agreements in place to protect user information from law enforcement, there lies a significant challenge for the defense. They want to ensure that these databases were not misused in obtaining evidence against Kohberger. Hellis remarks, “It's a little bit difficult for them to be certain that those databases weren't misused unless they get the raw data of where these database connections were made.”    Hellis anticipates that judges will increasingly require the prosecution to provide detailed information on how they connected the dots using genetic genealogy. This move towards transparency is not only expected but necessary, as it ensures that both parties are playing fair and that the evidence brought forth is obtained legally and ethically.    But what is at stake for the defense? Hellis outlines a clear goal: to prove that the evidence was obtained in a way that violated Kohberger's rights, making it inadmissible in court. She likens it to an illegal search, emphasizing the importance of the Fourth Amendment in protecting citizens' rights against unlawful searches and seizures.    If the defense is successful in proving that the evidence was obtained illegally, it could deal a significant blow to the prosecution's case. However, Hellis argues that while it would weaken the case, it may not be fatal. There are other pieces of evidence and indications of probable cause that could potentially underpin Kohberger's arrest and the subsequent search of his parent's home.    Hellis's insights highlight a critical aspect of the legal system: the importance of transparency, legality, and ethical conduct in the pursuit of justice. She points out that while the government has nearly unlimited resources, the defendant often does not, underscoring the necessity for both parties to play fair and observe the rules.    As our discussion with Lori Hellis comes to a close, we are left with another intriguing question: How will the fight over DNA evidence and genetic genealogy impact the Bryan Kohberger case, and what does it mean for the future of legal proceedings in such complex and high-profile cases? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the legal community and the public will be watching closely, ensuring that justice is served, and rights are protected. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the quest for justice in the Alex Murdaugh case blurring the lines between right and wrong, and revealing deep-seated issues within the South Carolina legal system? These are the questions that Tony Brueski and former defense attorney, Lori Hellis, tackle in a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast as they discuss the shocking allegations of jury tampering and potential misconduct by Colleton County Clerk of Court, Rebecca Hill.   Alex Murdaugh has officially filed a motion in state court seeking a new trial, citing allegations of jury tampering and potentially damning misconduct. Hill, who remains in her position and denies the allegations, is at the center of this legal maelstrom. Lori Hellis, with her extensive background in law, provides a nuanced perspective on the implications of these allegations.    "If those allegations are true, and the judge who hears the motion believes that jurors could have been influenced by those comments, then Alex Murdaugh is entitled to a new trial," Hellis explains. This statement underscores the gravity of the situation, highlighting the importance of integrity and fairness within the legal system.    Hellis goes on to discuss the broader issues plaguing South Carolina's justice system, pointing out the incestuous relationships and revolving doors between law enforcement, legislators, judges, and lawyers. "The level of corruption, the level of control that a small number of people have over the justice system, is troubling," Hellis remarks, emphasizing the urgent need for reform and transparency.    The conversation takes a darker turn as they delve into the murky waters of Alex Murdaugh's lead counsel, Jim Griffin, and his role as a legislator, raising questions about potential conflicts of interest and undue influence. The possibility of third-party interference, particularly by the clerk of the court, adds another layer of complexity to the case.    The discussion shifts to Rebecca Hill's book and her public statements, scrutinizing them for potential clues or admissions of guilt. Hellis reads between the lines, questioning Hill's motivations and the potential impact of her words on the trial. "Did she have an agenda? You have to wonder," Hellis muses, leaving the audience to draw their own conclusions.    As the podcast episode comes to a close, Brueski and Hellis ponder the broader implications of the case. "Is this just how things run at that court in South Carolina? Is this an isolated incident, or a symptom of a systemic issue?" Brueski asks, challenging the audience to think critically about the state of the justice system, not just in South Carolina, but across the nation.    In the end, the conversation leaves listeners with more questions than answers, and a lingering sense of unease about the state of justice in South Carolina. The Alex Murdaugh case has peeled back the curtain, revealing a system rife with corruption, influence, and secrecy. As Hellis aptly notes, "These kinds of cases always create an avalanche effect."    The "Hidden Killers" podcast has once again succeeded in shedding light on the dark corners of the legal world, challenging its listeners to question everything and settle for nothing less than the truth. As the saga of Alex Murdaugh continues to unfold, one can't help but wonder: what other secrets are hiding in the shadows, and what will it take to bring them to light? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Could the impending transfer and potential retrial of Lori Vallow Daybell signal a significant shift in one of the most captivating legal sagas in recent history? This question looms large as we delve into a complex narrative brought to the fore in the latest episode of "Hidden Killers" with Tony Brueski. The episode features an in-depth discussion with Lori Hellis, a former defense attorney and author, providing keen insights on the mental health aspects, legal intricacies, and the stark differences between the legal proceedings in Idaho and Arizona.    The conversation takes a critical turn as it addresses Governor Brad Little's recent executive decision to extradite Lori Vallow Daybell to Arizona on charges of conspiracy to commit murder. This comes in the wake of an ongoing appeal process concerning her initial trial, introducing an array of legal and psychological considerations. Hellis aptly notes, "There's a lot of things to question about another Lori Vallow trial." The discussion underscores the paramount importance of addressing mental health issues within the legal context, particularly when they are as intricate and severe as they appear in Lori's case.    Hellis reflects on the uniqueness of the case, stating, "Lori Vallow is an enigma. She was functional on a day-to-day basis yet harbored deep and dangerous delusions." This duality poses a considerable challenge for the legal system, aiming to ensure justice while addressing the defendant's mental health needs appropriately.    In drawing parallels with Lori's previous legal proceedings, Hellis highlights the idiosyncrasies of Idaho's legal system, which notably does not permit a 'not guilty by reason of insanity' defense. This starkly contrasts with Arizona's legal stance, opening up a myriad of possibilities for Lori's defense team and potentially paving the way for a different outcome.    The lack of a robust defense in the original trial is a focal point of the conversation, with Hellis pointing out, "One of the reasons we didn't see a defense was because she really limited what her defense attorneys could say." This self-imposed limitation significantly hindered Lori's defense strategy, leaving many to wonder if a different approach might be adopted in Arizona, given the state's different legal provisions regarding mental health.    The forthcoming trial of Chad Daybell, Lori's husband, also casts a long shadow on the proceedings. Hellis anticipates a vigorous defense strategy from Chad's legal team, potentially shifting blame onto Lori. "I think we're going to see Lori was the femme fatale and Chad was just the dupe," Hellis speculates, setting the stage for a dramatic and potentially revealing court battle.    Hellis does not mince words when discussing the arduous journey Lori faces en route to Arizona, detailing the grueling and dehumanizing process prisoners often undergo during interstate transfers. This stark depiction serves as a poignant reminder of the harsh realities of the criminal justice system, a journey Lori must endure before facing her day in court once again.    The episode concludes with a potent question, pondering the unpredictable nature of high-profile legal battles and leaving listeners to reflect on the myriad of variables that could influence the final chapter of Lori Vallow Daybell's tumultuous story. As Hellis aptly puts it, "You never can predict except that it might be unpredictable." This sentiment encapsulates the essence of the Lori Vallow Daybell saga, a complex tapestry of legal battles, psychological turmoil, and unforeseen twists that continue to captivate and confound observers worldwide.    As Lori Vallow Daybell's journey through the legal system continues, one question remains at the forefront: Will the Arizona trial provide clarity and closure, or will it only deepen the mystery surrounding one of the most enigmatic legal cases in recent memory? Only time will tell, but one thing is certain: the world will be watching. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves deep into the murky waters of child protective services, exploring the intersection between a broken system and the masterful deceit of individuals like Ruby, a narcissist who manages to fool the system at every turn. Brueski's probing query, "Why did it take so long for anybody to look into this on a serious level?" brings to the fore a pressing issue that has haunted child welfare advocates for years.    Brueski is quick to clarify his stance, emphasizing that his intention isn't to demean the many dedicated workers within the child protective services system. "I've always have to be careful with that because there are many people in it who work their ass off and are not funded. They don't have the resources to do their job correctly." The real culprit, Brueski suggests, may not just be an underfunded system but individuals like Ruby, who know how to play the game all too well.    Offering a deeper perspective, Lori Hellis, a criminal defense lawyer with substantial experience in juvenile cases, sheds light on the delicate balance child welfare systems must strike. "In every state, there is this tightrope between the rights of a parent to raise their children as they see fit, and when that tips over into abuse and neglect," Hellis explains. The challenge for CPS investigators lies in discerning genuine threats from benign but nonconventional parenting practices.    Hellis goes on to highlight the complexities that investigators face in cases that, on the surface, present no obvious signs of neglect or abuse. "So They go into a home and they see a home that is appropriately furnished. The kids have food. They appear to be being homeschooled in a responsible way." The key, according to her, is determining if there is a "true risk of harm" to the children.    This conundrum becomes even more profound in homes that are upscale and wield significant societal influence. As Brueski poignantly questions, "Are people getting better at hiding this stuff?" The conversation delves into how our societal perceptions can often be misguided, equating affluence or apparent happiness with well-being.    Hellis raises an alarming point about how the digital age might be aiding these deceptive tendencies. With the vast amount of information available online, she believes people have become more adept at understanding what the state looks for and, consequently, how to hide potential red flags. The darker corners of the internet may empower wrongdoers with the tools they need to elude detection.    The episode then shifts to the nuances of emotional abuse, a form of mistreatment often overlooked because of its intangibility. As Brueski puts it, "It's also a reflection just of how we handle mental health in our country to begin with." The discussion concludes with a heart-wrenching case involving Ruby Frankie, illustrating how the unsuspecting are sometimes trapped in toxic therapeutic relationships, manipulated by unscrupulous individuals who exploit their client's vulnerabilities.    In light of such complexities, one can't help but ponder: are we facing a systemic failure, or is it the evolving mastery of deceit that's to blame? The conversation on "Hidden Killers" serves as a compelling reminder that, in the age of information, we must be ever vigilant and discerning, constantly challenging our perceptions and assumptions.    As we reflect on the intricate dance between a possibly flawed system and the cunning deception of some individuals, one has to wonder: In an age where appearances can be so deceiving, how can we truly safeguard our most vulnerable? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

STS Website: https://survivingthesurvivor.com/ STS Merch Store: https://www.bonfire.com/store/sts-store/ #STSNation, Welcome to another episode of Surviving The Survivor, the podcast that brings you the #BestGuests in all of True Crime… We dive back into the #DanMarkel murder case. He's the Harvard-educated FSU Law Professor gunned down in his Tallahassee driveway back in 2014. Two hitmen and a go-between are already convicted of the crime and in prison. Ex-brother-in-law Charlie Adelson sits in jail awaiting his murder trial. ****A TRIAL DATE NOW SET FOR OCTOBER 23**** We also just got to see the State's witness list and other important documents. #BestGuests Famed Tallahasse Defense Attorney R. Timothy Jansen is a partner in the firm Jansen & Davis…he has handled complex Civil, Administrative and Criminal Litigation s, first as Chief Trial Counsel for the Secretary of State of Florida, Tallahassee, handling both complex Civil and Criminal matters. He also spent 5 years as a federal prosecutor. No one knows the Tallahassee legal community better than Tim. Lori Hellis is an author and a retired criminal defense attorney. She moved to Boise, Idaho, to help write her book titled Children of Darkness & Light which is also the name of her YouTube channel. Her blog is called the Lori Vallow Story. John D. Singer – is Co Founder of, Singer Deutsch LLP and graduate of Georgetown Law Mr. Singer was designated as a "New York Super Lawyer" in 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, Singer makes regular appearances as a legal analyst for CNBC and a gazillion other outlets#JusticeForDanMarkel #TrueCrime #FSU #TrueCrimeCommunity #Podcast

In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves deep into the murky waters of child protective services, exploring the intersection between a broken system and the masterful deceit of individuals like Ruby, a narcissist who manages to fool the system at every turn. Brueski's probing query, "Why did it take so long for anybody to look into this on a serious level?" brings to the fore a pressing issue that has haunted child welfare advocates for years.    Brueski is quick to clarify his stance, emphasizing that his intention isn't to demean the many dedicated workers within the child protective services system. "I've always have to be careful with that because there are many people in it who work their ass off and are not funded. They don't have the resources to do their job correctly." The real culprit, Brueski suggests, may not just be an underfunded system but individuals like Ruby, who know how to play the game all too well.    Offering a deeper perspective, Lori Hellis, a criminal defense lawyer with substantial experience in juvenile cases, sheds light on the delicate balance child welfare systems must strike. "In every state, there is this tightrope between the rights of a parent to raise their children as they see fit, and when that tips over into abuse and neglect," Hellis explains. The challenge for CPS investigators lies in discerning genuine threats from benign but nonconventional parenting practices.    Hellis goes on to highlight the complexities that investigators face in cases that, on the surface, present no obvious signs of neglect or abuse. "So They go into a home and they see a home that is appropriately furnished. The kids have food. They appear to be being homeschooled in a responsible way." The key, according to her, is determining if there is a "true risk of harm" to the children.    This conundrum becomes even more profound in homes that are upscale and wield significant societal influence. As Brueski poignantly questions, "Are people getting better at hiding this stuff?" The conversation delves into how our societal perceptions can often be misguided, equating affluence or apparent happiness with well-being.    Hellis raises an alarming point about how the digital age might be aiding these deceptive tendencies. With the vast amount of information available online, she believes people have become more adept at understanding what the state looks for and, consequently, how to hide potential red flags. The darker corners of the internet may empower wrongdoers with the tools they need to elude detection.    The episode then shifts to the nuances of emotional abuse, a form of mistreatment often overlooked because of its intangibility. As Brueski puts it, "It's also a reflection just of how we handle mental health in our country to begin with." The discussion concludes with a heart-wrenching case involving Ruby Frankie, illustrating how the unsuspecting are sometimes trapped in toxic therapeutic relationships, manipulated by unscrupulous individuals who exploit their client's vulnerabilities.    In light of such complexities, one can't help but ponder: are we facing a systemic failure, or is it the evolving mastery of deceit that's to blame? The conversation on "Hidden Killers" serves as a compelling reminder that, in the age of information, we must be ever vigilant and discerning, constantly challenging our perceptions and assumptions.    As we reflect on the intricate dance between a possibly flawed system and the cunning deception of some individuals, one has to wonder: In an age where appearances can be so deceiving, how can we truly safeguard our most vulnerable? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the depths of a Wichita evidence locker, numerous pieces of evidence have lain dormant for over a decade. And now, there's a renewed interest in whether they hold clues to other unsolved mysteries, potentially tied to the infamous BTK killer, Dennis Rader.    During a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis delved deep into this perplexing and evolving issue. Brueski posed the question, "Are you at all surprised by the amount of evidence that has been sitting in an evidence locker in Wichita for 15 or so years since [Rader] was arrested and put away?"    Hellis expressed her surprise that authorities weren't more proactive in processing the evidence. However, she speculated that law enforcement might have awaited concrete leads before venturing into the potential labyrinth of clues. "They want to be more focused and more aiming at something," she remarked. Hellis understands the delicate balance of being methodical without inadvertently depleting vital evidence.    A central point of contention is Rader's writings about a "bad wash day." He described a fantasy involving a girl at a laundromat during a time when he was installing ADT security systems nearby. Alarmingly, a girl did go missing around that same period. However, Brueski points out the glaring issue: "All we have is that little bit of writing, which is really, truly not enough to convict somebody on."    So, what would be required to build a conviction? Hellis pointed out a unique angle - the psychological aspect of Rader's actions. As Rader grows older, there's a sense that he might be reflecting on his legacy. Some suggest that taunting him with his old "trophies," or evidence from his crimes, might prompt him to correct the record if investigators get details wrong, thereby potentially revealing more information.    A significant player in this strategic game is Kerry, who knows Rader well. Brueski recounted, "[Kerry] said, 'Oh, he's watching all this coverage. He's getting it up. He is really into it.'" Rader has historically played mind games with the police, leaving behind letters and challenging them to catch him. There's a shared belief that this old cat-and-mouse game might start anew.    The question, then, is how far Rader would go with these games, considering his limited time. "Why not throw some clues out there before you're dead, Dennis?" Brueski speculated. He emphasized Rader's previous manipulation of the police and expressed intrigue about Rader's potential next moves. Hellis concurred, adding that Rader might believe he has the upper hand, but his incarceration limits his ability to manipulate his surroundings or the investigation's environment.    In Conclusion: As the investigation deepens and the pressure mounts, could the once seemingly dormant evidence locker in Wichita unlock further dark secrets of Dennis Rader, the BTK killer? Or will Rader's mind games remain just that - a game, where the true extent of his malevolent actions die with him? Only time will tell. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the depths of a Wichita evidence locker, numerous pieces of evidence have lain dormant for over a decade. And now, there's a renewed interest in whether they hold clues to other unsolved mysteries, potentially tied to the infamous BTK killer, Dennis Rader.    During a recent episode of the "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis delved deep into this perplexing and evolving issue. Brueski posed the question, "Are you at all surprised by the amount of evidence that has been sitting in an evidence locker in Wichita for 15 or so years since [Rader] was arrested and put away?"    Hellis expressed her surprise that authorities weren't more proactive in processing the evidence. However, she speculated that law enforcement might have awaited concrete leads before venturing into the potential labyrinth of clues. "They want to be more focused and more aiming at something," she remarked. Hellis understands the delicate balance of being methodical without inadvertently depleting vital evidence.    A central point of contention is Rader's writings about a "bad wash day." He described a fantasy involving a girl at a laundromat during a time when he was installing ADT security systems nearby. Alarmingly, a girl did go missing around that same period. However, Brueski points out the glaring issue: "All we have is that little bit of writing, which is really, truly not enough to convict somebody on."    So, what would be required to build a conviction? Hellis pointed out a unique angle - the psychological aspect of Rader's actions. As Rader grows older, there's a sense that he might be reflecting on his legacy. Some suggest that taunting him with his old "trophies," or evidence from his crimes, might prompt him to correct the record if investigators get details wrong, thereby potentially revealing more information.    A significant player in this strategic game is Kerry, who knows Rader well. Brueski recounted, "[Kerry] said, 'Oh, he's watching all this coverage. He's getting it up. He is really into it.'" Rader has historically played mind games with the police, leaving behind letters and challenging them to catch him. There's a shared belief that this old cat-and-mouse game might start anew.    The question, then, is how far Rader would go with these games, considering his limited time. "Why not throw some clues out there before you're dead, Dennis?" Brueski speculated. He emphasized Rader's previous manipulation of the police and expressed intrigue about Rader's potential next moves. Hellis concurred, adding that Rader might believe he has the upper hand, but his incarceration limits his ability to manipulate his surroundings or the investigation's environment.    In Conclusion: As the investigation deepens and the pressure mounts, could the once seemingly dormant evidence locker in Wichita unlock further dark secrets of Dennis Rader, the BTK killer? Or will Rader's mind games remain just that - a game, where the true extent of his malevolent actions die with him? Only time will tell. Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What if one of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history had more victims than previously thought? A new investigation has been launched into Dennis Rader, infamously known as the BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill) Killer. This inquiry is based on the potential of other murders linked to him. But amidst the serious undertones of such an investigation, questions of its legitimacy and intentions arise, especially when reality TV is thrown into the mix.    On a recent episode of "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski delved into the latest developments surrounding BTK, with insights from guest and criminal defense lawyer, Lori Hellis. Over the past six months, there have been hints of this new line of investigation, especially with Kerry Rawson, Rader's daughter, making intriguing statements that suggest there might be more to the story.    "We've been watching this quite closely," Brueski commented. "I'm all for finding more in the B. T. K. Saga. If there, in fact, are more, I very much admire Kerry for putting herself out there and the dedication she has... to try and find justice for these individuals." The drive to uncover the truth, however, isn't the only factor coming into play.    As Brueski pointed out, the evidence thus far consists of a piece titled "bad wash day." This, combined with rumors of a reality TV show revolving around the case, has sparked concerns about the genuine intentions behind the investigation. Such a television venture, according to Brueski, might be more inclined to sensationalize events rather than seeking justice. "The reason to do this is to find justice and bring some closure to those families, not necessarily do a television show," he emphasized.    Hellis agreed, "I think that the timing probably isn't great. I mean, I could see how the authorities that are investigating might see this as an opportunity to get the BTK case back out in front of people again." She recognized the potential benefits, such as public assistance in identifying evidence or piecing together timelines, but cautioned against crossing the line between awareness and entertainment.    Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, had his crime spree stretch over 30 years, and while he's been imprisoned for a considerable time, Hellis points out the eerie notion many have had. "I think everyone's always felt like there were more victims out there. He just wasn't giving them up." Many serial killers have been known to release information bit by bit, relishing in the attention. This tactic, coupled with a potential reality show, muddies the waters of the investigation's true aim.    Additionally, concerns were raised about some of the figures involved in the case's media portrayal. Brueski specifically noted an incident where Eddie Virden, associated with the investigation, handled evidence improperly on a talk show. This kind of behavior is worrisome, given the gravity of the case and the potential implications of any new revelations.    Both Brueski and Hellis concluded that while seeking justice and uncovering the truth is paramount, the dangers of sensationalism and media circus should not be ignored. In the quest for ratings or recognition, the real stories and the genuine pain of families affected might be overshadowed.    So, as the case takes another turn and more details emerge, one has to wonder: Are we on the brink of uncovering new, chilling details about one of America's most infamous killers, or is this just another spectacle for the screen? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the line between cult behavior and entrepreneurial drive blurred in the recent spotlight on Jodi Hildebrandt's controversial group? Recent discussions on the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved deep into the actions and influence of Jodi Hildebrandt and her associate, Ruby Franke.    During the conversation, Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis broke down the unsettling nuances that surround the activities of Hildebrandt and Franke. “Anytime you have an organization that is formed around a central figure...it certainly has cult overtones,” Hellis said. In Hildebrandt's case, her belief system and the proclamation that those who didn't adhere would face severe repercussions gave rise to serious concern. The dynamic between Hildebrandt and Franke became even murkier with the revelation of Franke's 2 million followers on YouTube and the subsequent potential monetary advantages.    Drawing parallels with the Lori Vallow Daybell case, Brueski questioned the motivations of such figures. “Was it money? Was it control?” he asked. The underlying intentions might be obscured, but a clear link to financial gain was established when it was revealed that Franke secured $87,000 in PPP loans for her YouTube channel. This revelation adds another layer to the complex dynamics at play.    A notable element in this discussion is the adoption of the “love and logic” parenting approach from the 1990s by Hildebrandt and Franke. Hellis mentioned, “I think they do believe that is the way to, to appropriately parent...she's got the answer and people want it and she can get them to pay for it.” However, this approach has taken a dark turn. The extreme methods used by Hildebrandt went far beyond typical strict parenting. Brueski highlighted, "It just seems to go way off the rails. How does someone end up sitting in their home duct-taping their children up and abusing them and going, ‘Yeah, this is strict parenting'?"    The conversation turned even more harrowing with the account of Jodi's niece, Jessie, who spoke of the severe and unimaginable discipline she endured under Hildebrandt's care. Hellis said, “For Ruby Franke's children, she had cut them off from everyone...the first thing the abuser does is isolate their victim.” This isolation is a telltale sign of abusive patterns and manipulation.    The responsibility and knowledge of Ruby Franke's husband became a crucial aspect of the conversation. Hellis gave insights into the possibility of him being more passive in the face of Franke's parenting tactics, implying that while he may not have directly been complicit, his passive stance potentially enabled the continued abuse. There were speculations about him wanting to reunite the family, but how much he knew or intervened remains a grey area.    From this conversation, one thing is evident: the line between cult behavior, delusional beliefs, and a drive for entrepreneurial success has been muddled in the activities of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. Their methods, beliefs, and actions pose significant concerns that demand scrutiny.    But as we delve into the motivations and intentions behind such controversial figures, one can't help but wonder: at what point does the drive for success or adherence to belief systems transform into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

What if one of the most notorious serial killers in U.S. history had more victims than previously thought? A new investigation has been launched into Dennis Rader, infamously known as the BTK (Bind, Torture, Kill) Killer. This inquiry is based on the potential of other murders linked to him. But amidst the serious undertones of such an investigation, questions of its legitimacy and intentions arise, especially when reality TV is thrown into the mix.    On a recent episode of "Hidden Killers" podcast, host Tony Brueski delved into the latest developments surrounding BTK, with insights from guest and criminal defense lawyer, Lori Hellis. Over the past six months, there have been hints of this new line of investigation, especially with Kerry Rawson, Rader's daughter, making intriguing statements that suggest there might be more to the story.    "We've been watching this quite closely," Brueski commented. "I'm all for finding more in the B. T. K. Saga. If there, in fact, are more, I very much admire Kerry for putting herself out there and the dedication she has... to try and find justice for these individuals." The drive to uncover the truth, however, isn't the only factor coming into play.    As Brueski pointed out, the evidence thus far consists of a piece titled "bad wash day." This, combined with rumors of a reality TV show revolving around the case, has sparked concerns about the genuine intentions behind the investigation. Such a television venture, according to Brueski, might be more inclined to sensationalize events rather than seeking justice. "The reason to do this is to find justice and bring some closure to those families, not necessarily do a television show," he emphasized.    Hellis agreed, "I think that the timing probably isn't great. I mean, I could see how the authorities that are investigating might see this as an opportunity to get the BTK case back out in front of people again." She recognized the potential benefits, such as public assistance in identifying evidence or piecing together timelines, but cautioned against crossing the line between awareness and entertainment.    Dennis Rader, the BTK killer, had his crime spree stretch over 30 years, and while he's been imprisoned for a considerable time, Hellis points out the eerie notion many have had. "I think everyone's always felt like there were more victims out there. He just wasn't giving them up." Many serial killers have been known to release information bit by bit, relishing in the attention. This tactic, coupled with a potential reality show, muddies the waters of the investigation's true aim.    Additionally, concerns were raised about some of the figures involved in the case's media portrayal. Brueski specifically noted an incident where Eddie Virden, associated with the investigation, handled evidence improperly on a talk show. This kind of behavior is worrisome, given the gravity of the case and the potential implications of any new revelations.    Both Brueski and Hellis concluded that while seeking justice and uncovering the truth is paramount, the dangers of sensationalism and media circus should not be ignored. In the quest for ratings or recognition, the real stories and the genuine pain of families affected might be overshadowed.    So, as the case takes another turn and more details emerge, one has to wonder: Are we on the brink of uncovering new, chilling details about one of America's most infamous killers, or is this just another spectacle for the screen? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is the line between cult behavior and entrepreneurial drive blurred in the recent spotlight on Jodi Hildebrandt's controversial group? Recent discussions on the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved deep into the actions and influence of Jodi Hildebrandt and her associate, Ruby Franke.    During the conversation, Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis broke down the unsettling nuances that surround the activities of Hildebrandt and Franke. “Anytime you have an organization that is formed around a central figure...it certainly has cult overtones,” Hellis said. In Hildebrandt's case, her belief system and the proclamation that those who didn't adhere would face severe repercussions gave rise to serious concern. The dynamic between Hildebrandt and Franke became even murkier with the revelation of Franke's 2 million followers on YouTube and the subsequent potential monetary advantages.    Drawing parallels with the Lori Vallow Daybell case, Brueski questioned the motivations of such figures. “Was it money? Was it control?” he asked. The underlying intentions might be obscured, but a clear link to financial gain was established when it was revealed that Franke secured $87,000 in PPP loans for her YouTube channel. This revelation adds another layer to the complex dynamics at play.    A notable element in this discussion is the adoption of the “love and logic” parenting approach from the 1990s by Hildebrandt and Franke. Hellis mentioned, “I think they do believe that is the way to, to appropriately parent...she's got the answer and people want it and she can get them to pay for it.” However, this approach has taken a dark turn. The extreme methods used by Hildebrandt went far beyond typical strict parenting. Brueski highlighted, "It just seems to go way off the rails. How does someone end up sitting in their home duct-taping their children up and abusing them and going, ‘Yeah, this is strict parenting'?"    The conversation turned even more harrowing with the account of Jodi's niece, Jessie, who spoke of the severe and unimaginable discipline she endured under Hildebrandt's care. Hellis said, “For Ruby Franke's children, she had cut them off from everyone...the first thing the abuser does is isolate their victim.” This isolation is a telltale sign of abusive patterns and manipulation.    The responsibility and knowledge of Ruby Franke's husband became a crucial aspect of the conversation. Hellis gave insights into the possibility of him being more passive in the face of Franke's parenting tactics, implying that while he may not have directly been complicit, his passive stance potentially enabled the continued abuse. There were speculations about him wanting to reunite the family, but how much he knew or intervened remains a grey area.    From this conversation, one thing is evident: the line between cult behavior, delusional beliefs, and a drive for entrepreneurial success has been muddled in the activities of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. Their methods, beliefs, and actions pose significant concerns that demand scrutiny.    But as we delve into the motivations and intentions behind such controversial figures, one can't help but wonder: at what point does the drive for success or adherence to belief systems transform into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the intricate world of criminal appeals, where does one draw the line between upholding a client's wishes and pursuing a line of defense deemed most potent? This remains the poignant question as the appeal of Lori Vallow Daybell, a name synonymous with intrigue and uncertainty, moves forward. Delving into the matter, the "Hidden Killers" podcast hosted by Tony Brueski brought on author and seasoned criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis to elucidate the complexities surrounding Daybell's appeal and the pivotal role of mental health.    At the core of the discussion lies Daybell's apparent reluctance to be portrayed as mentally unstable. Brueski poses a pressing question: “If she doesn't want to have an image out there of being crazy, which she's going to have no matter what, why? Can the attorneys file this appeal on their own merit without her even agreeing to it?" Hellis clarifies that while Daybell does indeed have a say in the decision to appeal, it's the attorneys who guide her on the appeal's grounds.    The transition from trial to appeal has led to Daybell being assigned a new appellate attorney, underscoring the differing demands of trial and appellate work. As Hellis points out, this change might provide "a little bit of an opening for the attorneys to get around her desire not to use the mental health defense."    Brueski, reflecting on Daybell's beliefs, inquires, “Why spend the resources? Why are we even doing this?” It's evident that while Daybell firmly believes in her spiritual conversations with her deceased children and anticipates becoming the "queen of Rexburg," her lawyers are grappling with a more tangible reality. “It's one of her better bases of appeal," Hellis articulates, highlighting the tension between a client's wishes and a lawyer's duty to zealously represent their client's interests.    This situation draws an analogy to medical ethics, where a patient might refuse treatment despite its apparent benefits. Brueski draws a parallel to a 'do not resuscitate' order, musing about the challenges of advocating for someone who might not want that advocacy, especially if it paints them in a particular light. "At some point, crazy or not, you do have to kind of go with what the individual wants, no matter how deplorable they may be," Brueski suggests.    Hellis adds another layer of complexity by referencing her experiences representing mentally ill clients, "It's a difficult balancing act to make sure that your client's rights are protected and still deal with someone who is not firmly in reality." She reflects on Daybell's trial lawyers, Jim Archibald and Mark Means, suggesting that they faced significant challenges in defending Daybell the way they believed was right, due to her strong opinions on the mental health defense.    Hellis emphasizes a critical point in legal representation: the final call, especially on aspects as defining as the defense narrative, belongs to the client. Even if the attorneys believe a different path might be more favorable, it's the client's wishes that ultimately direct the proceedings.    As the appeal progresses, the public remains in the shadows, relying on tidbits of information to piece together a narrative that's as convoluted as it's fascinating. Daybell's own statements, including those during her sentencing, paint a picture of someone whose beliefs and views are not anchored in commonly accepted realities. Yet, whether her mental state at the time of the trial, or the crimes she's accused of, is an issue fit for legal contention remains an open question.    So, as the case of Lori Vallow Daybell continues to unfold, one can't help but ask: In the delicate balance of upholding justice, client autonomy, and advocacy, are we treading on solid ground or slipping into an abyss of ethical dilemmas? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In the intricate world of criminal appeals, where does one draw the line between upholding a client's wishes and pursuing a line of defense deemed most potent? This remains the poignant question as the appeal of Lori Vallow Daybell, a name synonymous with intrigue and uncertainty, moves forward. Delving into the matter, the "Hidden Killers" podcast hosted by Tony Brueski brought on author and seasoned criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis to elucidate the complexities surrounding Daybell's appeal and the pivotal role of mental health.    At the core of the discussion lies Daybell's apparent reluctance to be portrayed as mentally unstable. Brueski poses a pressing question: “If she doesn't want to have an image out there of being crazy, which she's going to have no matter what, why? Can the attorneys file this appeal on their own merit without her even agreeing to it?" Hellis clarifies that while Daybell does indeed have a say in the decision to appeal, it's the attorneys who guide her on the appeal's grounds.    The transition from trial to appeal has led to Daybell being assigned a new appellate attorney, underscoring the differing demands of trial and appellate work. As Hellis points out, this change might provide "a little bit of an opening for the attorneys to get around her desire not to use the mental health defense."    Brueski, reflecting on Daybell's beliefs, inquires, “Why spend the resources? Why are we even doing this?” It's evident that while Daybell firmly believes in her spiritual conversations with her deceased children and anticipates becoming the "queen of Rexburg," her lawyers are grappling with a more tangible reality. “It's one of her better bases of appeal," Hellis articulates, highlighting the tension between a client's wishes and a lawyer's duty to zealously represent their client's interests.    This situation draws an analogy to medical ethics, where a patient might refuse treatment despite its apparent benefits. Brueski draws a parallel to a 'do not resuscitate' order, musing about the challenges of advocating for someone who might not want that advocacy, especially if it paints them in a particular light. "At some point, crazy or not, you do have to kind of go with what the individual wants, no matter how deplorable they may be," Brueski suggests.    Hellis adds another layer of complexity by referencing her experiences representing mentally ill clients, "It's a difficult balancing act to make sure that your client's rights are protected and still deal with someone who is not firmly in reality." She reflects on Daybell's trial lawyers, Jim Archibald and Mark Means, suggesting that they faced significant challenges in defending Daybell the way they believed was right, due to her strong opinions on the mental health defense.    Hellis emphasizes a critical point in legal representation: the final call, especially on aspects as defining as the defense narrative, belongs to the client. Even if the attorneys believe a different path might be more favorable, it's the client's wishes that ultimately direct the proceedings.    As the appeal progresses, the public remains in the shadows, relying on tidbits of information to piece together a narrative that's as convoluted as it's fascinating. Daybell's own statements, including those during her sentencing, paint a picture of someone whose beliefs and views are not anchored in commonly accepted realities. Yet, whether her mental state at the time of the trial, or the crimes she's accused of, is an issue fit for legal contention remains an open question.    So, as the case of Lori Vallow Daybell continues to unfold, one can't help but ask: In the delicate balance of upholding justice, client autonomy, and advocacy, are we treading on solid ground or slipping into an abyss of ethical dilemmas? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is justice possible when the accused might not grasp reality? The Lori Daybell case has ignited fiery debates, shedding light on the intricacies of mental health and its impact on the courtroom. This thorny issue was the focal point of the latest "Hidden Killers" podcast episode, where host Tony Brueski sought insights from seasoned criminal defense lawyer and author Lori Hellis.    Brueski started the conversation with a candid concern, "Many of us had been waving red flags from the beginning, questioning: Is this really right?" Daybell's recent appeal wasn't based on the alleged crime's merits but her mental acuity – her ability to even stand trial. The paramount question: can one truly attain justice if the accused lacks the fundamental comprehension of reality?    Hellis highlighted a peculiarity in Idaho's legal approach to insanity, explaining, "Idaho is a little bit interesting. Doing away with the insanity plea was a bit of a bait and switch." Though the state has ostensibly eliminated the insanity plea, it still provides an avenue for defense attorneys. They can argue that their client didn't possess the necessary mental state to form an intent to commit the crime. "It's a bit like splitting hairs," Hellis observed.    This convoluted definition raises further questions. While it restricts the use of mental health as a traditional affirmative defense, it still permits a defendant to claim they didn't knowingly or intentionally commit a crime. The Daybell defense could have pursued this angle during her trial. However, Hellis pointed out a startling revelation: "It was very clear in court that she had told her attorney she did not want to use that mental defense."    Delving deeper, Hellis elucidated the two critical intersections of mental health in criminal trials. Firstly, was the accused sane at the time of the crime's commission? Secondly, can they aid in their defense? While Daybell's mental state during the crime remained unchallenged due to her wishes, post-trial appeals are challenging her competency to stand trial. "They're really going back and saying, 'Your Honor, she never should have been tried because she wasn't competent,'" Hellis stated.    Brueski further probed the series of events. In September of the previous year, with the trial set for January 2023, Daybell's attorneys made a critical move. They expressed concerns about her competence, leading the judge to vacate the trial date. The court's subsequent evaluations of Daybell's competency were sealed, leaving the public in the dark.    Yet, intriguing snippets emerged. The defense brought in Dr. Michael Wellner, a renowned psychiatrist known for determining the competency of Brian David Mitchell, the kidnapper of Elizabeth Smart. Brueski questioned the essence of this choice: "Who's the expert here? And who knows this better than other people?"    One cannot help but question the timing of this strategy, though. Why raise the mental defense now, post-trial, when it was deliberately avoided during proceedings? Hellis offered a rationale: "The attorneys don't feel quite so constrained by what she wants because the trial is over." Essentially, the appeal, anchored in mental health challenges, offers an opportunity to counter the trial's verdict without going against Daybell's wishes.    In sum, the Lori Daybell case illuminates the labyrinthine interplay of mental health, legal tactics, and the quest for justice. As the story unfolds, it prompts us to reflect deeply: In the intricate dance of law and mental well-being, where should the line be drawn? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

Is justice possible when the accused might not grasp reality? The Lori Daybell case has ignited fiery debates, shedding light on the intricacies of mental health and its impact on the courtroom. This thorny issue was the focal point of the latest "Hidden Killers" podcast episode, where host Tony Brueski sought insights from seasoned criminal defense lawyer and author Lori Hellis.    Brueski started the conversation with a candid concern, "Many of us had been waving red flags from the beginning, questioning: Is this really right?" Daybell's recent appeal wasn't based on the alleged crime's merits but her mental acuity – her ability to even stand trial. The paramount question: can one truly attain justice if the accused lacks the fundamental comprehension of reality?    Hellis highlighted a peculiarity in Idaho's legal approach to insanity, explaining, "Idaho is a little bit interesting. Doing away with the insanity plea was a bit of a bait and switch." Though the state has ostensibly eliminated the insanity plea, it still provides an avenue for defense attorneys. They can argue that their client didn't possess the necessary mental state to form an intent to commit the crime. "It's a bit like splitting hairs," Hellis observed.    This convoluted definition raises further questions. While it restricts the use of mental health as a traditional affirmative defense, it still permits a defendant to claim they didn't knowingly or intentionally commit a crime. The Daybell defense could have pursued this angle during her trial. However, Hellis pointed out a startling revelation: "It was very clear in court that she had told her attorney she did not want to use that mental defense."    Delving deeper, Hellis elucidated the two critical intersections of mental health in criminal trials. Firstly, was the accused sane at the time of the crime's commission? Secondly, can they aid in their defense? While Daybell's mental state during the crime remained unchallenged due to her wishes, post-trial appeals are challenging her competency to stand trial. "They're really going back and saying, 'Your Honor, she never should have been tried because she wasn't competent,'" Hellis stated.    Brueski further probed the series of events. In September of the previous year, with the trial set for January 2023, Daybell's attorneys made a critical move. They expressed concerns about her competence, leading the judge to vacate the trial date. The court's subsequent evaluations of Daybell's competency were sealed, leaving the public in the dark.    Yet, intriguing snippets emerged. The defense brought in Dr. Michael Wellner, a renowned psychiatrist known for determining the competency of Brian David Mitchell, the kidnapper of Elizabeth Smart. Brueski questioned the essence of this choice: "Who's the expert here? And who knows this better than other people?"    One cannot help but question the timing of this strategy, though. Why raise the mental defense now, post-trial, when it was deliberately avoided during proceedings? Hellis offered a rationale: "The attorneys don't feel quite so constrained by what she wants because the trial is over." Essentially, the appeal, anchored in mental health challenges, offers an opportunity to counter the trial's verdict without going against Daybell's wishes.    In sum, the Lori Daybell case illuminates the labyrinthine interplay of mental health, legal tactics, and the quest for justice. As the story unfolds, it prompts us to reflect deeply: In the intricate dance of law and mental well-being, where should the line be drawn? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com

In a riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski delves deep into the murky waters of child protective services, exploring the intersection between a broken system and the masterful deceit of individuals like Ruby, a narcissist who manages to fool the system at every turn. Brueski's probing query, "Why did it take so long for anybody to look into this on a serious level?" brings to the fore a pressing issue that has haunted child welfare advocates for years. Brueski is quick to clarify his stance, emphasizing that his intention isn't to demean the many dedicated workers within the child protective services system. "I've always have to be careful with that because there are many people in it who work their ass off and are not funded. They don't have the resources to do their job correctly." The real culprit, Brueski suggests, may not just be an underfunded system but individuals like Ruby, who know how to play the game all too well. Offering a deeper perspective, Lori Hellis, a criminal defense lawyer with substantial experience in juvenile cases, sheds light on the delicate balance child welfare systems must strike. "In every state, there is this tightrope between the rights of a parent to raise their children as they see fit, and when that tips over into abuse and neglect," Hellis explains. The challenge for CPS investigators lies in discerning genuine threats from benign but nonconventional parenting practices. Hellis goes on to highlight the complexities that investigators face in cases that, on the surface, present no obvious signs of neglect or abuse. "So They go into a home and they see a home that is appropriately furnished. The kids have food. They appear to be being homeschooled in a responsible way." The key, according to her, is determining if there is a "true risk of harm" to the children. This conundrum becomes even more profound in homes that are upscale and wield significant societal influence. As Brueski poignantly questions, "Are people getting better at hiding this stuff?" The conversation delves into how our societal perceptions can often be misguided, equating affluence or apparent happiness with well-being. Hellis raises an alarming point about how the digital age might be aiding these deceptive tendencies. With the vast amount of information available online, she believes people have become more adept at understanding what the state looks for and, consequently, how to hide potential red flags. The darker corners of the internet may empower wrongdoers with the tools they need to elude detection. The episode then shifts to the nuances of emotional abuse, a form of mistreatment often overlooked because of its intangibility. As Brueski puts it, "It's also a reflection just of how we handle mental health in our country to begin with." The discussion concludes with a heart-wrenching case involving Ruby Frankie, illustrating how the unsuspecting are sometimes trapped in toxic therapeutic relationships, manipulated by unscrupulous individuals who exploit their client's vulnerabilities. In light of such complexities, one can't help but ponder: are we facing a systemic failure, or is it the evolving mastery of deceit that's to blame? The conversation on "Hidden Killers" serves as a compelling reminder that, in the age of information, we must be ever vigilant and discerning, constantly challenging our perceptions and assumptions. As we reflect on the intricate dance between a possibly flawed system and the cunning deception of some individuals, one has to wonder: In an age where appearances can be so deceiving, how can we truly safeguard our most vulnerable? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Is the line between cult behavior and entrepreneurial drive blurred in the recent spotlight on Jodi Hildebrandt's controversial group? Recent discussions on the podcast "Hidden Killers" delved deep into the actions and influence of Jodi Hildebrandt and her associate, Ruby Franke. During the conversation, Tony Brueski and criminal defense lawyer Lori Hellis broke down the unsettling nuances that surround the activities of Hildebrandt and Franke. “Anytime you have an organization that is formed around a central figure...it certainly has cult overtones,” Hellis said. In Hildebrandt's case, her belief system and the proclamation that those who didn't adhere would face severe repercussions gave rise to serious concern. The dynamic between Hildebrandt and Franke became even murkier with the revelation of Franke's 2 million followers on YouTube and the subsequent potential monetary advantages. Drawing parallels with the Lori Vallow Daybell case, Brueski questioned the motivations of such figures. “Was it money? Was it control?” he asked. The underlying intentions might be obscured, but a clear link to financial gain was established when it was revealed that Franke secured $87,000 in PPP loans for her YouTube channel. This revelation adds another layer to the complex dynamics at play. A notable element in this discussion is the adoption of the “love and logic” parenting approach from the 1990s by Hildebrandt and Franke. Hellis mentioned, “I think they do believe that is the way to, to appropriately parent...she's got the answer and people want it and she can get them to pay for it.” However, this approach has taken a dark turn. The extreme methods used by Hildebrandt went far beyond typical strict parenting. Brueski highlighted, "It just seems to go way off the rails. How does someone end up sitting in their home duct-taping their children up and abusing them and going, ‘Yeah, this is strict parenting'?" The conversation turned even more harrowing with the account of Jodi's niece, Jessie, who spoke of the severe and unimaginable discipline she endured under Hildebrandt's care. Hellis said, “For Ruby Franke's children, she had cut them off from everyone...the first thing the abuser does is isolate their victim.” This isolation is a telltale sign of abusive patterns and manipulation. The responsibility and knowledge of Ruby Franke's husband became a crucial aspect of the conversation. Hellis gave insights into the possibility of him being more passive in the face of Franke's parenting tactics, implying that while he may not have directly been complicit, his passive stance potentially enabled the continued abuse. There were speculations about him wanting to reunite the family, but how much he knew or intervened remains a grey area. From this conversation, one thing is evident: the line between cult behavior, delusional beliefs, and a drive for entrepreneurial success has been muddled in the activities of Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke. Their methods, beliefs, and actions pose significant concerns that demand scrutiny. But as we delve into the motivations and intentions behind such controversial figures, one can't help but wonder: at what point does the drive for success or adherence to belief systems transform into dangerous fanaticism? Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK's Unconfessed Crimes, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com 

Join Tony Brueski and guest Lori Hellis, an accomplished attorney and author, as they delve into the pressing issue of recognizing and intervening with abusers before they escalate to fatal violence. In this thought-provoking episode, Hellis offers her legal and societal insights on the signs of abuse and the potential preventive measures that can be taken. The discussion covers critical steps society can implement to ensure early detection and removal of potential abusers. Tune in for a profound exploration of how proactive actions can help prevent tragic outcomes. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the next episode, host Tony Brueski and expert guest Lori Hellis, an attorney and author, explore the tragic murder case of Madeline Kingsbury. The duo discusses the startling revelation that Kingsbury's habitually abusive boyfriend is the likely perpetrator behind the crime. Hellis provides her legal perspectives on patterns of domestic abuse and its tragic escalation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of this poignant issue, its impact, and ways our society can address it. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the next episode, host Tony Brueski and expert guest Lori Hellis, an attorney and author, explore the tragic murder case of Madeline Kingsbury. The duo discusses the startling revelation that Kingsbury's habitually abusive boyfriend is the likely perpetrator behind the crime. Hellis provides her legal perspectives on patterns of domestic abuse and its tragic escalation. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of this poignant issue, its impact, and ways our society can address it. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the upcoming episode, host Tony Brueski and guest Lori Hellis, an experienced attorney and author, engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the implications of the gag order in the Kohberger case. They delve into whether such a judicial restriction inadvertently fuels more rumors and speculation than it suppresses. Hellis shares her legal insights and analyses on this controversial aspect of the justice system. Tune in for an enlightening dialogue about the impact of gag orders on public discourse and perception. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the upcoming episode, host Tony Brueski and guest Lori Hellis, an experienced attorney and author, engage in a thought-provoking discussion about the implications of the gag order in the Kohberger case. They delve into whether such a judicial restriction inadvertently fuels more rumors and speculation than it suppresses. Hellis shares her legal insights and analyses on this controversial aspect of the justice system. Tune in for an enlightening dialogue about the impact of gag orders on public discourse and perception. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the upcoming podcast episode, host Tony Brueski and guest Lori Hellis, an esteemed attorney and author, delve into the intriguing case of Kouri Richins, a mother now standing trial for murder. They dissect how her own Google search history could potentially lead to her downfall, providing crucial digital evidence in the investigation. Listen as Hellis provides her legal insights and analysis on this fascinating intersection of technology and law enforcement. Don't miss this riveting discussion on how seemingly mundane online activities could tip the scales of justice. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

In the upcoming podcast episode, host Tony Brueski and guest Lori Hellis, an esteemed attorney and author, delve into the intriguing case of Kouri Richins, a mother now standing trial for murder. They dissect how her own Google search history could potentially lead to her downfall, providing crucial digital evidence in the investigation. Listen as Hellis provides her legal insights and analysis on this fascinating intersection of technology and law enforcement. Don't miss this riveting discussion on how seemingly mundane online activities could tip the scales of justice. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases:   Hidden Killers with Tony Brueski (All Cases) – https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary True Crime Today (All Cases)- https://audioboom.com/channels/5001260-true-crime-today-a-true-crime-podcast Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Nurse of Death: The Lucy Letby Story - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story  Murder in the Morning- https://audioboom.com/channels/5078367-murder-in-the-morning-daily-true-crime-news The Case Against Kouri Richins- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107367-the-case-against-kouri-richins Justice For Harmony | The Trials of Adam Montgomery- https://audioboom.com/channels/5107366-justice-for-harmony-the-trials-of-adam-montgomery   The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury- https://audioboom.com/channels/5109276-the-murder-of-madeline-kingsbury   The Murder of Stephen Smith- https://audioboom.com/channels/5099407-the-murder-of-stephen-smith      

Former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis joined a discussion to provide expert analysis on the potential paths forward in the case of Chad Daybell. Hellis shared insights into the likelihood of a plea deal versus Daybell standing trial, given the current circumstances and available evidence. She emphasized that the decision would largely depend on factors such as the strength of the prosecution's case and Daybell's willingness to negotiate. At this point, the direction of the case remains uncertain, and it will continue to unfold in the coming days. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

Former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis joined a discussion to provide expert analysis on the potential paths forward in the case of Chad Daybell. Hellis shared insights into the likelihood of a plea deal versus Daybell standing trial, given the current circumstances and available evidence. She emphasized that the decision would largely depend on factors such as the strength of the prosecution's case and Daybell's willingness to negotiate. At this point, the direction of the case remains uncertain, and it will continue to unfold in the coming days. Want to listen to ALL our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

Former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis offered insights on the challenges of representing Lori Vallow Daybell in her recent trial. Daybell's refusal to speak negatively about her co-conspirators, Chad Daybell and Alex Cox, or to discuss her mental health, posed significant hurdles for her defense team. Hellis noted that these factors would have undoubtedly complicated the strategy and tactics the defense was able to employ. This situation highlights the intricacies and ethical considerations involved in defending clients in high-profile and complex cases. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

Former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis offered insights on the challenges of representing Lori Vallow Daybell in her recent trial. Daybell's refusal to speak negatively about her co-conspirators, Chad Daybell and Alex Cox, or to discuss her mental health, posed significant hurdles for her defense team. Hellis noted that these factors would have undoubtedly complicated the strategy and tactics the defense was able to employ. This situation highlights the intricacies and ethical considerations involved in defending clients in high-profile and complex cases. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

In a recent discussion, former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis gave her expert opinion on the shortcomings of Lori Daybell's defense team during her trial. Hellis critically examined the defense's strategies, pointing out where they could have potentially missed opportunities to argue on Daybell's behalf. The conversation focused on the defense's overall approach, their handling of evidence, and their tactics in addressing prosecution arguments. Hellis' insights shed light on the intricacies of legal defense strategies and how they can impact the outcome of high-profile cases like Daybell's. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

In a recent discussion, former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis gave her expert opinion on the shortcomings of Lori Daybell's defense team during her trial. Hellis critically examined the defense's strategies, pointing out where they could have potentially missed opportunities to argue on Daybell's behalf. The conversation focused on the defense's overall approach, their handling of evidence, and their tactics in addressing prosecution arguments. Hellis' insights shed light on the intricacies of legal defense strategies and how they can impact the outcome of high-profile cases like Daybell's. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

In a recent discussion, former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis provided insight on the next steps for Bryan Kohberger following his arraignment in court. Hellis, known for her legal expertise, analyzed the potential outcomes and scenarios in Kohberger's case. She considered various legal strategies and the impact of the charges against Kohberger. The conversation helped shed light on the complexities of the judicial process and what may lie ahead for the accused. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

In a recent discussion, former criminal defense attorney and author Lori Hellis provided insight on the next steps for Bryan Kohberger following his arraignment in court. Hellis, known for her legal expertise, analyzed the potential outcomes and scenarios in Kohberger's case. She considered various legal strategies and the impact of the charges against Kohberger. The conversation helped shed light on the complexities of the judicial process and what may lie ahead for the accused. Want to listen to ALL of our Podcasts Ad-Free? Subscribe through Apple Podcasts, and try it for 3 days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj  Follow Our Other Cases:    Hidden Killers With Tony Brueski (All Cases) - https://audioboom.com/channels/5040505-hidden-killers-with-tony-brueski-breaking-news-commentary Chad & Lori Daybell - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098105-demise-of-the-daybells-the-lori-chad-daybell-story The Murder of Ana Walshe - https://audioboom.com/channels/5093967-finding-ana-this-disappearance-of-ana-walshe Alex Murdaugh - https://audioboom.com/channels/5097527-the-trial-of-alex-murdaugh The Idaho Murders, The Case Against Bryan Kohberger - https://audioboom.com/channels/5098223-the-idaho-murders-the-case-against-bryan-kohberger Lucy Letby - https://audioboom.com/channels/5099406-nurse-of-death-the-lucy-letby-story

#STSNation,Welcome to Surviving The Survivor the podcast that brings you the best guests in true crime. Week 3 of the Lori Vallow Daybell trial is set to begin Tuesday Lori is currently housed in the Ada County Jail but could likely spend the rest of her days in a maximum security state prison. The trial of the so-called “Doomsday Mom” is the wildly twisted story of a seemingly loving mother, a self-proclaimed devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints who clearly veered way off course …. And became involved in the deaths of as many as five people, including her own children. #BestGuests Skye Borgman is an American documentary film director and cinematographer best known for her work on "Sins of Our Mother" about the Lori Vallow Daybell story. She also directed the highly acclaimed "Abducted in Plain Sight". Originially from Klamath Falls, Oregon, Borgman also now teaches at UCLA. Lori Hellis is an author and a retired criminal defense attorney who has a blog and is currently writing a book about Lori Vallow Daybell. She is in Boise, Idaho, to help write her book titled Children of Light & Darkness which is also the name of her YouTube channel. Her blog is called the Lori Vallow Story. Boise lawyer Jessica Bublitz is a skilled litigator with more than twenty years of courtroom litigation experience, Jessica has tried numerous cases in both State and Federal Courts.Jessica is the first woman in Idaho to be named a Top 100 Trial Lawyer by The National Trial Lawyers.#LoriVallowDaybell #LoriVallow #DoomsdayMom #DoomsdayMother #Boise #TJ #Tylee #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeCommunity #LoriVallowTrial #LoriVallowDaybellTrialFor Ad-Free & BTS Content ...Support the show ❤️Join our Youtube Membership or become a patron:https://www.patreon.com/survivingthesurvivor

#STSNation,Welcome to Surviving The Survivor the podcast that brings you the best guests in true crime. Today, we dive back into the Lori Vallow Daybell story — as her long-awaited murder trial begins today inside an Idaho courtroom with the first day of jury selection.The trial of the so-called “Doomsday Mom” is the wildly twisted story of a seemingly loving mother, a devout member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, who becomes involved in the deaths of as many as five people, including her own children. #BestGuests:Boise lawyer Jessica Bublitz is a skilled litigator with more than twenty years of courtroom litigation experience, Jessica has tried numerous cases in both State and Federal Courts.Jessica is the first woman in Idaho to be named a Top 100 Trial Lawyer by The National Trial Lawyers.Lori Hellis is an author and a retired criminal defense attorney who has a blog and is currently writing a book about Lori Vallow Daybell. She is in Boise, Idaho, to attend and write about the trials. Lori says she wants to understand the perfect storm of people and circumstances that culminated in this sad ending. Dr. Christina Marinakis has over 20 years of jury research, study, and applied practice in law and psychology.  Though most of her experience is in civil litigation for defendants, Christina is also known for her pro bono work in selecting the jury and assisting with theme development for the prosecution in Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin, and more recently assisting the plaintiffs in Vanessa Bryant v. County of Los Angeles. Susan Constantine is one of the nation's leading jury consultants. She's also a body language + communication expert …As owner of The Human Behavior Lab, Susan's subjective analysis of potential jurors body language, voice, and statements during voir dire assist attorneys to spot potentially dangerous jurors who may render an unfavorable verdict.She's appeared on Dateline, Today, Fox & Friends and many other big time shows. #LoriVallowDaybell #LoriVallow #DoomsdayMom #DoomsdayMother #Boise #TJ #Tylee #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeCommunity #LoriVallowTrial #LoriVallowDaybellTrial

Crime Talk... Let's Talk Vallow Daybell Case, Eliza Fletcher, Lori Hellis, and More!  

Lori Hellis Pulls out The Big Gμᴎs... Let's Talk About It!  

Talking Vallow Daybell Matter w/ The Good Lori!