Podcast appearances and mentions of Phil Perry

The Patriots' best-kept secret in their rookie class is an undrafted free agent, but it's not Efton Chism. Spoiler alert, it's Elijah Ponder, a 6'3”, 260lb linebacker with insane combine numbers. Phil Perry says it's a mystery he wasn't drafted. Listen to an exclusive interview with Ponder, and Phil shares why exactly he likes the rookie so much.Not only that, but Phil also answers a handful of mailbag questions at the end of the show.1:04 - Why Elijah Ponder earned a spot on Patriots 53-man roster3:00 - Elijah Ponder by the numbers8:38 - What Mike Smith had to say about Elijah Ponder11:58 - Phil Perry has an exclusive interview with Elijah Ponder21:30 - Mailbag Questions WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry react to Mike Vrabel saying the Patriots “have to go to great lengths to improve this team” Also, they debate how much the Patriots offensive line has improved and discuss what it would take to acquire Jakobi Meyers. Lastly, Tom catches up with Austin Hooper for some irrelevant questions.1:30 - Vrabel says “I think that we have to go to great lengths to improve this team” 6:00 - How much have the Patriots improved their offensive line? 11:00 - Assessing the WR improvements from last season 14:00 - Would you trade Stefon Diggs for Jakobi Meyers? 28:00 - Irrelevant questions with Austin Hooper WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

The roster is set. Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry react to the Patriots 53-man roster, breaking down the biggest cuts and makes. They also look at the crowded WR room and whether a trade for Jakobi Meyers makes sense.1:00 - Instant reaction to 53-man roster13:00 - Evaluating the Patriots' WR room and the case for a Jakobi Meyers trade  WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand with Phil Perry in for Zolak and Alex Barth in for McKone start the third hour taking calls and reactions (10:57) We discuss if the expectations are too high for the Patriots and do more this or that. (21:55) The crew takes more calls. (28:59) The guys finish the hour by reacting to Nick Wright's comments that the Patriots are going to the playoffs; What games are the Patriots winning?

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand with Phil Perry in for Zolak and Alex Barth in for McKone start the final hour reacting to the announcement of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce getting engaged; Bob Socci joins the show. (15:55) The crew discuss who Taylor and Travis should have preform at their wedding. (24:36) We finish the day with Phil Perry giving an injury update on Christian Gonzalez. (35:17) Today’s Takeaway.

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand with Phil Perry in for Zolak and Alex Barth in for McKone start the first hour by talking about what the big move is for the Patriots as Trey Hendrickson and Terry McLaurin are off the table. (12:13) The crew think about if the Patriots should trade for Jakobi Meyers. (20:37) We touch on how we think players did during training camp. (29:10) We finish the hour with recapping the Red Sox win against the Orioles last night.

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand with Phil Perry in for Zolak and Alex Barth in for McKone start the second hour debating if Drake Maye feels pressure right now to throw to Diggs. (11:27) We touch on a potential Kyle Dugger and Anfernee Jennings trade. (27:31) We finish the hour playing This or That!

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand react to Phil Perry saying he expects the Patriots to make some more moves over the coming days. (8:50) We touch on Bill Belichick continuing to take shots at Robert Kraft and the Patriots. (22:50) Tim McKone takes us around the NFL. (32:40) We finish the hour playing This or That! This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent. https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o1-page2-107890-365938?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry break down the Patriots roster following their preseason finale against the Giants. They analyze Mike Vrabel's comments on roster improvements, discuss the futures of players like Javon Baker and Kyle Dugger, and highlight which position groups showed the most progress during training camp1:00 - How will Patriots improve their roster before Week 1?9:00 - Is Keion White in trouble? What will Pats do with Javon Baker?15:00 - Which position group Improved most throughout camp? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Best player? Most surprising? Phil Perry hands out his superlatives for Patriots training camp. Many young and new players dominate the categories. Plus, with cut-down day just days away, Phil discusses his 53-man roster projection. Finally, you hear from Matthew Berry about all things fantasy football related to the Patriots. Are there any players actually worth picking up this season?1:01 - Patriots camp superlatives1:25 - Best player2:56 - Most surprising player3:51 - Most disappointing player5:28 - Biggest takeaway9:34 - Best free agent signing12:26 - Rookie of camp14:26 - 53-man roster projection22:10 - Interview with Matthew Berry WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand start the third hour by questioning whether Greg Bedard was being unfair by lowering the Patriots win total. (9:14) We touch on Phil Perry still saying Terry McLaurin is a perfect fit for the Patriots. (19:31) The crew questions whether Mike Vrabel will have a soft spot for Zo. (31:00) The guys finish off the hour by diving into the future of MLB’s broadcasting home. This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent. https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o1-page2-107890-365938?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand start the third hour with this or that continued and the Chisholm group taking over the Celtics. (8:16) The guys discuss Cousy’s comments about Jaylen Brown not being at “Tatum’s level” and the pressure that will be on him this season. (19:19) The crew discuss Phil Perry’s comments that Will Campbell will be fine this season and who they think the starting offensive line will be. (28:03) The guys finish off the hour debating if Trey Henderson will be the steal of the draft. This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent. https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o1-page2-107890-365938?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

Tom Curran welcomes in Phil Perry, live from Minneapolis, to offer instant reaction and analysis to the Patriots' 20-12 preseason win over the Vikings. 1:00- Tom offers his initial thoughts on the game – is this the end for Kyle Dugger -- and the start for Efton Chism -- in New England?14:35- Reacting to an up and down day from Drake Maye24:35- TreVeyon Henderson is already one of the team's best offensive weapons27:05- Did Efton Chism III just make the team as the sixth receiver?28:55- A rough day for Javon Baker, a solid one for Will Campbell37:20- Are we going to see Stefon Diggs at all in the preseason? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry react to an important 10-day stretch for the 2025 Patriots as the team comes off joint practices against the Washington Commanders and the Minnesota Vikings. 1:30- Does a bad final joint practice on Thursday cancel out all the good from the previous nine days?4:10- Phil shares why the wide receivers have shown some encouraging development... but still have a long way to go9:00- The offensive line is still the biggest concern for New England13:10- Are you concerned that the offensive line issues will lead to bad habits from Drake Maye?21:00- What's the situation with the interior offensive line? Is Jared Wilson getting demoted?27:20- Expectations for the second preseason game WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry breaks down Day 2 of the joint practice with the Vikings. He discusses the offense's struggles, highlights a bright spot in Drake Maye, and provides reacts to the latest on Stefon Diggs.1:00 Breaking down Day 2 of joint practices in Minnesota14:00 Stock Watch after two days with the Vikings18:00 - What's going on with Stefon Diggs? WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry break down the Patriots first day of joint practices with the Vikings. Phil offers his overall impressions, as he was in Minnesota to witness the whole thing. He then breaks down the offense and defense, and he explains what he saw from Drake Maye. Finally, the guys hit on Stefon Diggs' arc and what Patriots fans can expect from him.0:33 - Phil Perry breaks down what he saw from the Patriots offense in joint practice against the Vikings3:06 - Drake Maye's numbers from practice5:23 - Phil Perry breaks down the Patriots defense7:11 - Mike Vrabel and Drake Maye speak more about Maye's leadership15:13 - How has Mike Vrabel as the Patriots are now a few weeks into training camp?20:52 - How did everyone else look?23:11 - What kind of trajectory is Stefon Diggs on? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

The Patriots wrapped up their last practice before they head to Minnesota for joint practices with the Vikings. Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry offer their takeaways from today's practice. You'll hear from Josh McDaniels and Mike Vrabel regarding Drake Maye and their philosophies in coaching up the second-year quarterback. Was his fumble from Friday's preseason game a sign that his ball-security issues are still a problem, or are they just par for the course.Phil Perry also gives his storylines of the week, as the Patriots' second preseason game is right around the corner.3:24 - How concerning are Drake Maye's turnovers, and how long will it take him to figure it out?8:07 - How Mike Vrabel is getting the most out of Drake Maye's leadership11:10 - Breaking down the Patriots offense during today's practice: They struggled mightily15:55 - Is this a good week for the Patriots to try to overcome their struggles? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry are sharing their instant reaction after the Patriots' first preseason game vs. the Commanders. They discuss how  bought-in the Patriots offense looks to Josh McDaniels' system, the running back room standing out, and Drake Maye's fumble. We also hear from head coach Mike Vrabel.   1:00: Biggest takeaways from Patriots' night vs. Commanders5:40: Mike Vrabel's noteworthy comments on Javon Baker, and his role on special teams9:00: Drake Maye addresses his turnover, Tom and Phil discuss whether they are concerned17:00: Breaking down Henderson's big night19:30: Ja'Lynn Polk leaves field with injury, what his injury could mean for WR room WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry is back with a new Next Pats Podcast. Phil is sharing his takeaways from the Patriots' joint practice vs. the Commanders, how DeMario Douglas will be utilized in Josh McDaniels' offense, and how Mack Hollins is quickly emerging after being on PUP. Later, Phil answers your mailbag questions!01:00: The Patriots 'belonged' during joint practice with Commanders.05:00: Why Phil believes Pop Douglas will be the main receiver for the Patriots in 20259:55: We hear from Pop Douglas, how being tired of losing is motivating him in 2025 and the impact of Josh McDaniels12:40: Drake Maye has high praise for Pop Douglas19:00: Zay Flowers could be a good comp for how McDaniels can use Pop Douglas21:50: Takeaways from Drake Maye's day vs. the Commanders33:50: Phil is answering your mailbag questions! WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry are back LIVE for a new Patriots Talk Podcast after the Patriots' joint practice vs. the Washington Commanders. They discuss the brawl Mike Vrabel broke up, Drake Maye vs. Jayden Daniels, and Pop Douglas emerging as hub of the Patriots offense.1:50: Discussing the fight Mike Vrabel broke up and his bloody face08:00: Drake Maye vs. Jayden Daniels 15:00: DeMario Douglas emerging as the hub of the offense21:30: Christian Barmore's best day of camp WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand start today's show LIVE from Patriot’s training camp down in Foxborough as the team prepares for a joint practice with the Washington Commanders ahead of their first preseason game; Are you taking Drake Maye or Jayden Daniels long term? (13:13) The crew discusses which players have the most at stake during these joint practices; Tom Curran and Phil Perry have some names. (22:50) We talk about Greg Bedard ripping Mike Vrabel and the Patriots for holding a light training camp this year. (34:54) The guys finish the hour with their observations as the Patriots and Commanders are in the midst of joint practices. This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent. https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o1-page2-107890-365938?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry break down the Patriots' offensive struggles heading into joint practices. They talk about which player has the most to prove vs. the Commanders, if Kendrick Bourne's time in New England is running out, and whether TreVeyon Henderson might already be the team's top running back5:00 - Breaking down Patriots' offensive "struggles" 10:00 - Which player has the most at stake against the Commanders? 17:00 - Is the Kendrick Bourne era coming to an end? 23:00 - Is TreVeyon Henderson the Patriots' best RB? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) The guys ask Hardy whether or not he has done certain examples of physical labor during his beach trips. (19:42) Phil Perry, a New England Patriots Insider for NBC, joins Toucher and Hardy via zoom to discuss the Patriots offseason and training camp. (33:40) The guys discuss how the Yankees have been seriously struggling with Aaaron Judge hurt, and how their series with the Rangers is beneficial to the Red Sox no matter the result. (PLEASE be aware timecodes may shift up to a few minutes due to inserted ads) CONNECT WITH TOUCHER & HARDY: linktr.ee/ToucherandHardy This episode of Toucher & Hardy is brought to you in part by Profluent and then have that linked to https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

(0:00) Beetle, McKone, and Phil Perry on what they want to see from the Patriots during joint practice tomorrow. (10:40) Callers weigh in on Patriots practice and This or That. (21:21) Is it tough to live off 5 million dollars? (31:26) Today's Takeaways This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

(0:00) Beetle, McKone, and Phil Perry discuss the perceived boost Mike Vrabel gives the Patriots. (11:49) Has Rhamondre Stevenson solved his fumble woes? (23:39) Is Kyle Dugger on the roster bubble? (31:58) This or That! This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o2?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

(0:00) Beetle and McKone, joined by Phil Perry, discuss what Phil has seen at camp over the last few days. (14:52) Beetle has a lot of questions about the Patriots offensive line; Did the Patriots do enough to bolster the offensive line? (26:37) Do the Patriots need to overpay for Terry McLaurin? (39:01) Have the Patriots had enough "hard days" at practice?

Tom Curran and Phil Perry discuss what they saw Monday at Patriots training camp. Who looked the best during the red-zone period? How will Kendrick Bourne's injury impact the WR room? And why it's looking unlikely the Commanders will trade Terry McLaurin. 1:00-Takeaways from red-zone period at practice5:00-Who looked the best on Monday?10:30-How will Kendrick Bourne's injury impact the WR room?14:30-Why it's looking unlikely the Commanders will trade Terry McLaurin21:00-Takeaways from Friday's scrimmage WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry break down another day of Patriots training camp, highlighting Drake Maye's lack of interceptions, Kyle Williams quickly earning Maye's trust and how the wide receiver room is shaping up.1:00 - Drake Maye flirting with a no-no on picks in training camp5:45 - Kyle Williams already earning trust from Drake8:00 - What will the WR room look like?16:30 - Debating whether Edelman will ever get into Canton WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry shares his main takeaways from Day 8 of training camp practice for the New England Patriots before welcoming in offensive tackle Morgan Moses for an exclusive 1-on-1 interview. 1:30- Phil shares what's impressed him the most about Drake Maye so far in camp3:20- Kyle Williams is already showing his resiliency and ability to bounce back from bad plays5:40- Offensive line update7:35- Morgan Moses on his first camp with the Patriots and working with the team's rookie linemen15:20- Phil previews his potential 53-man roster, including a shocking cut in the receiver room WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak, McKone and Dondero start the last hour LIVE from Patriots training camp discussing the Red Sox not having made any more moves as we get closer to the deadline. (11:10) NBC Sports Boston Patriots Insider Phil Perry joins the show to discuss the Patriots and the expectations for their upcoming season. (27:09) We finish the day recapping training camp and discuss Julian Edelman’s chances at the HOF. (35:59) Today’s Takeaways. This episode of Zolak & Bertrand is brought to you in part by Profluent. https://go.happinessexperiment.com/begin-aff-o1-page2-107890-365938?am_id=podcast2025&utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=michael

Tom Curran and Phil Perry break down what they saw from the Patriots training camp on Wednesday. How much should we read into Will Campbell's toughest day of camp? How did Drake Maye look?2:00-Will Campbell's toughest day of camp so far4:30-With Garrett Bradbury out, how did the OL shuffle?8:30-Mike Vrabel on using Drake Maye as a runner12:00-Offensive highlights from practice15:00-Ja'Lynn Polk wants to move on from last season WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry break down what they saw from the Patriots second full pads practice at Gillette. They break down the performance of Jared Wilson, give the latest on Christian Gonzalez, and fire off some HOT TAKES!1:00-Observations from the offense on Day 66:00-Jared Wilson, “eye-opening” performance so far7:45-Assessing Drake Maye's day8:50-Latest on Christian Gonzalez' injury13:30-HOT TAKES! WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry break down what they saw from the Patriots first full pads practice at Gillette. How did 4th overall pick Will Campbell look? They discuss that, and what they saw from Drake Maye and the WRs.  1:00-What's Mike Vrabel looking for at training camp?  2:30-Breaking down what we saw from Will Campbell  7:00-Highlights from Drake Maye's day  9:00-What did we see from the WR group  14:00-Reaction to Christian Gonzalez injury  WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry break down what they saw at Gillette during Day 3 of Patriots training camp. Will the Patriots go after Christian Wilkins? How important will Keion White be next season?2:00-Mike Vrabel says Patriots ‘will have a conversation' about Christian Wilkins4:00-Keion White appreciation time17:40-Garrett Bradbury praises the maturity of Drake Maye28:00-Developing positions of need WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry break down what they saw at Gillette during Day 2 of Patriots training camp. Cause for concern with the offensive line already? What's the pecking order at WR?  1:30- Morgan Moses praises offensive line building camaraderie  8:30-What's the pecking order at WR?  17:40-Kendrick Bourne talks WR group and Josh McDaniels' offense  WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry is back with another episode of the Next Pats Podcast! In this episode, Phil breaks down what he's seen through the first two days of Patriots training camp, whose stock is up, whose stock is down, plus an exclusive interview with Hunter Henry.  3:00 - Where young Patriots sit in their respective pecking orders, how Drake Maye looks through first two practices in Josh McDaniels' offense8:45 - Not a great two days for the 2024 draft class, including the absence of Ja'Lynn Polk.11:30 - TreVeyon Henderson and Kyle Williams' stock is up13:10 - Pecking order at WR16:00 - Breaking down emerging trends in the NFL: 2 TE sets20:10 - Exclusive with Hunter Henry after day 2 of training camp WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry offer their instant reaction from the Patriots' first training camp practice of 2025, including who's stock is up and who's is down after Day 1. 1:00- An impressive first practice from Drake Maye on the field – and behind the mic7:00- How'd the wide receivers look on Day 1?20:00- Stock Up, Stock Down for Day 1  WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak and Bertrand start the last hour LIVE from Patriots training camp talking about their expectations for the Patriots this season and how we expect Drake Maye to perform as a starter. (8:30) Phil Perry from NBC Sports Boston joins the show and the guys discuss their initial observations from day 1 of training camp. (23:57) We finish the day with calls and reactions from topics discussed in the show today. (34:13) Today’s Takeaways.

Football is back! Tom Curran and Phil Perry share their biggest takeaways from Mike Vrabel's first press conference of training camp, plus the guys play a round of “Heat Index Bracket Challenge” to debate who's more on the hot seat this season. 1:55- The guys share their reaction to Mike Vrabel's overall tenure in his first press conference of training camp5:10- What did you make of Vrabel's response to a question about Christian Gonzalez's on-field performance?10:45- Vrabel breaks down where the team stands with taking advantage of ‘bad football' heading into camp16:50- How big of a deal is it that Stefon Diggs is a full-go for Day 1 of training camp?24:35- “Heat Index Bracket Challenge”: Which one is more on the hot seat this season? WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zo, Paul Perillo, and Joe Murray begin the third hour discussing how big of an impact Mike Vrabel will have on the Patriots team this season. (10:28) The crew touches on Phil Perry saying that Terry McLaurin would be an ideal fit for the Patriots and what a potential trade would look like. (21:50) The guys talk about Curran and Perry saying the Patriots defense may not be as amazing as everyone is thinking it will be. (36:01) We finish the hour talking more about Terry Mclaurin and a potential move for him.

Phil Perry welcomes in JP Finlay of NBC4 Sports Washington to get his thoughts on what's going on between the Washington Commanders and wide receiver Terry McLaurin, before sharing his camp battles to watch and opening up the mailbag to answer your questions! 1:00- Phil shares his thoughts on the contract dispute between Terry McLaurin and the Commanders and what it could mean for the Patriots6:55- JP Finlay joins to share his thoughts on how likely it is that McLaurin could become available and why he thinks Washington is hesitant to extend the receiver at the moment20:30- Phil previews Patriots training camp by sharing his five breakout candidates, and five position battles to watch38:10- Phil opens up the mailbag to answer your questions WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

(00:00) Zolak & Bertrand begin the top of the third hour discussing if the Patriots should consider trading Stefon Diggs; More calls and reactions from the show so far. (8:51) The guys talk about ESPN giving the Patriots a 1 in 3 chance to make the playoffs this season and the 12th best odds in the AFC. (20:43) The guys touch more on the Patriots and Phil Perry ranking their OL as 24th best in the NFL. (29:44) We finish the hour discussing the Savannah Bananas selling out Fenway for two straight nights with former Red Sox players participating; What can the MLB learn from them?

Phil Perry dives deep into NFL pass protection, ranking every team's offensive line. But where do the New England Patriots stand when it comes to protecting Drake Maye? Have they truly done enough to give him the clean pocket he needs to succeed? Find out where the Patriots rank league-wide and what it means for Maye's development.4:00-Ranking the offensive lines around the NFL8:30-Which category do the Patriots fall under?13:30-Phil's full breakdown of the Patriots' overall ranks16:30-Overall rankings, which team protected their QB the best? WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Join Tom Curran and Phil Perry as they take a hilarious and insightful walk down memory lane! In this video, they'll spill the beans on their absolute best and worst moments, covering the Pats. From unforgettable games and locker room laughs to awkward press conferences and contentious player interactions, you'll hear it all.1:00-Important golf and botched haircut updates4:30-What's your favorite trip/ stadium?8:30-Most memorable game you covered?21:30-Most memorable press conference31:30-Most contentious interaction with a player39:00-Favorite locker room interview WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry continues his "Three P's" series - playmakers, play-callers, and protection. In this episode, he breaks down the play-callers, and where Josh McDaniels ranks among offensive play-callers in the league. Phil also breaks down how McDaniels can get Drake Maye and the Pats to exceed expectations.  03:30: Josh McDaniels is the most interesting person to watch at 1 Patriot Place this season11:00: If Drake Maye can handle everything Josh McDaniels throws at him, the offense could be better than expected  18:00: Don't be surprised if DeMario Douglas is used more under McDaniels this season26:33: Ranking all offensive play-callers in the NFL40:00: Josh McDaniels ranks as 11th overall play-caller in the NFL   WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry kicks off his "Three P's" series - playmakers, playcallers, and protection. He starts with a deep dive into playmakers, ranking the top talent across the league and analyzing where the Patriots stack up. Plus, Phil answers your mailbag questions. 1:00 - Overall thoughts on Patriots' group of weapons 20:00 - Playmaker rankings 53:00 - Answering your mailbag questions WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

There is optimism surrounding the Patriots heading into the 2025 NFL season. Is it warranted, or too early to tell? Tom Curran lays out his six reasons the Patriots will be better in 2025. Phil Perry joins to give his take on how optimistic Patriots fans should be.5:00 - Reasons to be optimistic? Or is it too early to tell? 7:30 - Six reasons the Patriots are truly better than last year 12:30 - Impact of the defensive front-seven 19:00 - Can the Patriots have a shutdown secondary? 22:30 - Patriots got a breezy schedule WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Phil Perry is wrapping up what he saw from Patriots minicamp, giving us his 'way too early' 52-man roster projection and wrapping up with his latest mailbag!02:00 - Takeaways from Patriots minicamp - offense improves but still a lot of work to do to get to where they want to be in the regular season09:30 - No-huddle period miscommunication between Stefon Diggs, Hunter Henry and Drake Maye11:55 - Phil is concerned about the interior offensive line15:48 - Patriots secondary looked NASTY! Christian Gonzalez the MVP of minicamp23:30 - Drake Maye discusses being a leader and benefit of being hard on teammates24:40 - "Ridiculously early 53-man roster prediction"42:50 - Phil Perry's mailbag!48:00 - Kendrick Bourne not a lock to make the roster WATCH every episode of The Next Pats podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom Curran and Phil Perry go position by position and give their offseason grades spot by spot.  1:30-QB grades 3:30-RB grades 6:00-TE grades 9:00-WR grades 12:30-Tackle grades 14:40-Guard/Center grades 19:00-Defensive grades  WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok

Tom E. Curran and Phil Perry are bringing you the latest from the second day of Patriots mini-camp. We hear from Stefon Diggs about his viral video over memorial day weekend. Plus Mike Vrabel has a lot of good things to say about undrafted rookie Efton Chism.  00:32: Stefon Diggs addresses viral boat video in Miami over memorial day weekend4:30: Should Patriots be concerned about Stefon Diggs being a distraction this season?7:20: Stefon Diggs 'making it clear' that he's ready to do a lot.12:30: Defense had a day at mini-camp! Phil Perry recounts Christian Gonzalez's play of the day (or even the Spring).  13:30: Uneven day for Drake Maye and the Patriots offense20:10: Why Phil Perry would make a trade for Terry McLaurin25:30: Early predictions: Efton Chism will make the Patriots roster WATCH every episode of the Patriots Talk podcast on YouTubeFollow NBC Sports Boston:NBCSportsBoston.comX @NBCSpatriotsFacebookInstagramTikTok