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Greenberg Traurig’s Trade Secret Law Evolution Podcast strives to offer business leaders, in-house counsel, and entrepreneurs an easily digestible and quick analysis of the most current developments in trade secret law. In episodes short enough for a morning commute, host Greenberg Traurig Sharehold…

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    • May 28, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
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    Episode 77: Establishing Irreparable Harm and Likelihood of Success

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2025 18:38


    In this episode, Jordan breaks down a recent ruling from the Northern District of New York that addresses what to do and not to do to establish the elements of irreparable harm and likelihood of success for a motion to enjoin trade secret misappropriation.

    Episode 76: Two Circuit Cases on Trade Secret Identification, Proof of Misappropriation and Contractual Damages Waivers

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2025 17:38


    In this episode, Jordan discusses a recent Fifth Circuit case that addressed trade secret identification and proof of misappropriation at trial, and an Eleventh Circuit case addressing whether and how trade secret misappropriation damages can be limited by contract.

    Episode 75: New Cases on Statute of Limitations and Trade Secret Identification

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 26, 2025 13:55


    In this episode, Jordan discusses a Second Circuit Court of Appeals opinion on statute of limitations, and a Central District of California decision on trade secret identification, and specifically the importance of distinguishing alleged trade secret information from public information included in patents.

    Episode 74: First-to-File Rule, Res Judicata, and Statute of Limitations

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2025 15:03


    This month, Jordan discusses how courts apply the first-to-file rule after a "race to the courthouse" and addresses cases involving the doctrine of res judicata and statute of limitations. 

    Episode 73: Year in Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 30, 2025 37:22


    In this episode, Boston Shareholder Greg Bombard joins us for the annual year in review.

    Episode 72: Starting the AI Conversation

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 20, 2024 19:09


    In this episode, GT attorney Emily Livermore joins Jordan to begin the conversation on how AI affects trade secrets and trade secret law. They address trade secret ownership, reverse-engineering, and how to protect trade secrets in the age of this revolutionary and rapidly-developing technology.

    Episode 71: How Destroy and Certify Clauses Can Trigger the Statute of Limitations and the Showing Necessary for Irreparable Harm

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2024 13:21


    In this episode, Jordan discusses a case in which a "destroy and certify" clause in an NDA triggered a statute of limitations, and another case that addresses how the possibility of irreparable harm may not be enough for preliminary injunctive relief.

    Episode 70: The First Circuit Addresses Two States' Competing Noncompete Policies

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2024 12:41


    In this episode, co-host Gregory Bombard, a Shareholder in Greenberg Traurig's Boston office, returns to discuss a federal Court of Appeals decision addressing Massachusetts' and California's competing public policies on the enforcement of noncompete agreements.

    Episode 69: Prevailing Parties, Expert Costs as Damages, and Trade Secret Identification

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2024 13:09


    In this episode, Jordan discusses two cases and three issues: (1) whether proof of causation and damages is necessary to be the prevailing party in trade secret cases, (2) whether “actual loss” for damages purposes includes expert costs, and (3) trade secret identification.

    Episode 68: FTC Noncompete Ban Enjoined

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2024 18:07


    In this episode, repeat co-host Justin Victor joins Jordan and breaks down the latest developments in the FTC noncompete ban saga, including the nationwide injunction against the ban in the leading case, related litigation, what to expect and what to do.   

    Episode 67: Extraterritorial Application of the Defend Trade Secrets Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 10:14


    In this episode, Jordan discusses a Seventh Circuit decision in a case of first impression over whether the DTSA applies outside the United States.

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    Episode 66: A Conversation with a Rocket Lawyer

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2024 43:06


    In this episode, Bridget Smith, Assistant General Counsel and Director, Intellectual Property for Relativity Space joins the podcast to discuss her company, how her job involves trade secrets, her views on measures to protect trade secrets given her company's unique assets, and other subjects.

    Episode 65: Should You Inventory Trade Secrets?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 28, 2024 32:17


    In this episode, Jennifer Burdman, Chief IP Officer & Deputy General Counsel for Valo Health, joins Jordan for a robust discussion on the hot topic of trade secret inventory, including its pros and cons.

    Episode 64: The FTC's Non-Compete Decree

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2024 19:27


    In this episode, Jordan and recurring co-hosts Gregory Bombard and Justin Victor discuss the FTC's new sweeping ban on non-compete agreements, and what it means for companies.

    Episode 63: Federal Subject Matter Jurisdiction, Trade Secret Ownership and Presumed Injunctive Relief

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2024 13:14


    In this episode, Jordan discusses how to plead (and not to plead) subject matter jurisdiction under the federal Defend Trade Secrets Act, the requirement of trade secret ownership, and whether injunctive relief is presumed once the plaintiff proves misappropriation.

    Episode 62: Non-Compete Agreements in Missouri and a New Preemption Case

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 25, 2024 16:12


    In this episode, Jordan discusses how Missouri treats the hot topic of non-compete agreements, and a recent District Court case in California on preemption.  

    Episode 61: Year in Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2024 25:24


    Jordan and GT Boston Shareholder Greg Bombard break down 2023's trends and key cases in trade secret law.

    Episode 60: Two States' Approaches to Preemption

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2023 15:00


    In this episode, Jordan discusses Minnesota's and Texas's differing approaches to the doctrine of preemption as explained in two recent cases.   

    Episode 59: A Federal Judge's Wisdom and Tips on Trade Secret Cases

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 3, 2023 50:38


    This week, Jordan and co-host Gregory Bombard interview United States District Judge William G. Young, one of the most distinguished jurists on the federal bench.  He sat down with us for an enlightening discussion on issues he's addressed in trade secret cases, including trade secret identification, how to protect trade secrets in court proceedings, and his views on arbitration versus trial. He even shares a little poetry. 

    Episode 58: How the FBI Foiled a Conspiracy to Steal Agricultural Trade Secrets

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 25, 2023 46:14


    Jordan Grotzinger and guest Michael Stimson, Vice President of Intellectual Property and General Counsel for Sun World International, LLC, discuss Michael's involvement in the DuPont Pioneer/Monsanto criminal case, which started when a contract farmer discovered someone digging on his property who then fled.

    Episode 57: Takeaways from Trade Secret IP Protection & Litigation - Boston

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2023 48:01


    In this episode, Jordan and GT Shareholder, trade secret lawyer and returning co-host Greg Bombard discuss the 2023 Global IP Strategy Hub's Trade Secret IP Protection & Litigation: Boston conference, including key takeaways.

    Episode 56: Device Turnover Orders

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2023 23:34


    In this episode, Jordan and GT Dallas Shareholder Bill Stark discuss “DTOs” (device turnover orders), how to get them and their impact on trade secret litigation.

    Episode 55: Trade Secret Identification at Trial and Avoided Cost Damages

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 23, 2023 17:33


    In this episode, Jordan discusses a recent Second Circuit opinion that addressed how to sufficiently identify trade secrets at trial and analyzed when avoided cost unjust enrichment damages are appropriate.

    Episode 54: Reconciling Vicarious Liability Principles with Indirect Misappropriation Requirements

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2023 24:05


    In this episode, GT litigator Jonathan Widjaja joins Jordan for a deep dive into how courts reconcile general agency principles with statutory requirements for indirect misappropriation, that is, liability for misappropriation based on the conduct of another. Jon also shares an interesting “fun fact.”

    Episode 53: Pleading on “Information and Belief” and the Time Period for which Damages are Recoverable

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2023 25:56


    In this episode, Los Angeles Shareholder Blakeley Oranburg and Jordan discuss an Eight Circuit case that addresses pleading trade secret misappropriation claims on “information and belief,” and case out of the Southern District of Ohio that explains the time period in which damages for trade secret misappropriation are recoverable.

    Episode 52: Year in Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2023 38:27


    In this episode, Boston shareholder Greg Bombard returns to discuss GT's 2022 trade secret Year in Review, and some highlights from last year's cases.

    Episode 51: The Sixth Circuit Analyzes Key Concepts in Trade Secret Law in Affirming Major Jury Verdict

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2022 32:45


    In this episode, Jordan and fellow IP litigator Layal Bishara discuss the Sixth Circuit's deep dive into identification of combination trade secrets, proper measures of damages, and what it means to willfully misappropriate. 

    Episode 50: TSLE Celebrates 50

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2022 31:30


    In this episode, Bina Palnitkar and Jordan Grotzinger discuss the Northern District of Illinois' deep dive into what it takes to properly plead misappropriation and inevitable disclosure, and address the preemption doctrine.  They're also joined by GT's very own Brian Duffy, the firm's CEO, who invented the “interesting fact” segment of the podcast and shares his own interesting fact.

    Episode 49: The Seventh Circuit Addresses Trade Secret Identification and Proof of Misappropriation

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2022 29:33


    In this episode, Jordan and Boston Shareholder Greg Bombard discuss the Seventh Circuit's recent opinion in a case involving hydraulic actuator technology.  The Court of Appeal addressed the critical issue of trade secret identification and analyzed whether the proof of misappropriation in this case was sufficient to survive summary judgment.

    Episode 48: The Tenth Circuit Addresses Causation, Exemplary Damages and Attorneys Fees under the Uniform Trade Secrets Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2022 22:12


    In this episode, Dallas Shareholder Bina Palnitkar joins Jordan to discuss the Tenth Circuit's recent decision affirming a judgment in a trade secret case, which analyzes issues of causation, exemplary damages and attorney fee awards under the Uniform Trade Secrets Act.

    Episode 47: The Fine Line Between Lawful Notification and Unlawful Solicitation, and Injunction Specificity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2022 21:16


    In this episode, shareholder Jennifer Surprenant joins Jordan for a discussion of cases addressing the difference between lawfully notifying others about a new job for a competing business and unlawful solicitation of potential customers or clients. We also address the specificity required for injunctions against trade secret misappropriation, and courts' differing standards on this issue. 

    Episode 46: Reconciling Trade Secret Law with Public Records Acts, Trade Secret Identification and Supersession

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2022 22:19


    In this episode, we discuss how one state's Public Records Act is reconciled with trade secret protections.  We also address trade secret identification at pleadings, and a recent decision interpreting the supersession doctrine.  

    Episode 45: “The Head Follows the Heart” – Building a Case from Suspicion to Seven-Figure Jury Verdict

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2022 33:09


    In this episode, Jordan's partner Rich McCrea discusses a unique trade secret case from inception to verdict, including methodically developing proof, picking the right jury and trial themes.

    Episode 44: Lessons in Proof from a Recent Summary Judgment Case

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2022 13:11


    In this episode, we discuss a grant of summary judgment against a trade secret misappropriation claim, and some important lessons on proving misappropriation and damages. 

    Episode 43: The Thrill of Fishing Coordinates and the Agony of Marginal Costs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2022 19:21


    We're back for our fourth year and discuss proper venue for prosecution of criminal trade secret theft of fishing coordinates, and what kinds of costs must be deducted to calculate lost profit damages in trade secret misappropriation cases. 

    Episode 42: 2021 Year in Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 13, 2021 40:41


    Jordan Grotzinger and Charles Feigelstock break down the highlights of 2021 in TSLE's third Year in Review. 

    Episode 41: Preemption and the Risk of “Shotgun” Pleadings, and the Showing Required for Sealing Trade Secrets in Court Records

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2021 17:18


    In this episode, we address the doctrine of “preemption,” or supersession, under the California Uniform Trade Secrets Act, and specifically how a “shotgun” pleading of related claims can result in preemption.  We also discuss a court decision explaining the showing needed to have trade secret information in court papers filed under seal.  

    Episode 40: A Deep Dive Into the Trade Secret Misappropriation Statute of Limitations

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2021 18:02


    In this episode, we discuss the Sixth Circuit's recent analysis of the statute of limitations for trade secret misappropriation claims, including the concept of continuing misappropriation. 

    Episode 39: Proving “Compilation” Trade Secrets and Damages After a Preliminary Injunction

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2021 15:57


    In this episode, we examine how a plaintiff proved the existence of a “compilation” trade secret in a trial resulting in an eight-figure verdict, and the issue of how a preliminary injunction in a trade secret case affects the plaintiff's claims for damages.

    Episode 38: President Biden's Executive Order on Competition and the Meaning of “Use” under the Defend Trade Secrets Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2021 23:09


    In this episode, we discuss President Biden's July 9, 2021 Executive Order, “Promoting Competition in the American Economy,” and what it means for trade secret protection.  We also unpack the definition of “use” of trade secrets under the Defend Trade Secrets Act.

    Episode 37: The Supreme Court Interprets the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, and the Latest on the China Initiative

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2021 22:05


    In the month that marks our two year anniversary, we welcome back guest Todd Pickles, and discuss a recent Supreme Court opinion that clarifies the reach of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act and the opinion's impact on trade secret cases.  We also continue our discussion of the China Initiative and its progress in the Biden Administration.

    Episode 36: “Avoided Costs” as Damages and The Protecting American Intellectual Property Act of 2021

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2021 20:25


    In this episode, we discuss an informative analysis in the Southern District of New York of so-called “avoided costs” as damages for trade secret misappropriation, and the bi-partisan Protecting Intellectual Property Act of 2021 which, according to a sponsor, “draws a line in the sand” when it comes to foreign actors stealing trade secrets from American companies. 

    Episode 35: Sabotage as Misappropriation and Surviving Summary Judgment

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2021 11:11


    In this episode, we discuss how sabotage can constitute misappropriation of trade secrets, and the challenges of obtaining summary judgment in trade secret cases. 

    Episode 34: Forum and Venue Issues in Delaware Trade Secret Litigation, and Preemption by the Uniform Trade Secrets Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2021 24:21


    In this episode, Jordan Grotzinger and co-host Justin Victor discuss two recent Delaware cases that address what law and venue to choose for trade secret litigation, courts’ differing policies on enforcing such agreements, and preemption by the Uniform Trade Secrets Act.

    Episode 33: An Overview of Forensic Investigations with Expert Jim Vaughn

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 16, 2021 34:16


    In this episode, we discuss the logistics of forensic investigations, a key process in trade secret cases, with expert Jim Vaughn of iDiscovery Solutions.

    Episode 32: Preemption by the UTSA, Compilations as Trade Secrets, and the Ninth Circuit’s Decision on Pre-DTSA Enactment Disclosures

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2021 18:22


    In this episode, we welcome you to Season 3 of the podcast, and discuss preemption under the Uniform Trade Secrets Act, the increasingly important issue of compilations as a trade secret, and the Ninth Circuit’s decision on an issue of first impression – whether pre-enactment disclosures are actionable under the Defend Trade Secrets Act.

    Episode 31: Year in Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 35:46


    This episode is our second annual year-in-review discussion.  We address handling trade secrets while working remotely, surviving summary judgment and more.  We’ll be back in January, and wish everyone safe, healthy and happy holidays. This podcast is eligible for CA self-study CLE credit. Certificates of Attendance will not be issued. CA attorneys are responsible for self-reporting the amount of time they listened. For all other jurisdictions, please contact your state’s MCLE Board or Committee for guidance on their rules and regulations as it relates to self-study credit.

    Episode 30: Sufficiently Identifying Trade Secrets to Avoid Summary Judgment, Factors Relevant to Customer Data as Trade Secrets

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020 29:13


    In this episode, we discuss a recent Ninth Circuit case that addressed the level of trade secret identification necessary to survive summary judgment.  We also discuss factors relevant to whether customer data are trade secrets.

    Episode 29: Criminal Enforcement of Trade Secret Protection

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2020 30:34


    In this episode, we address for the first time the criminal enforcement of trade secret protection, including related geopolitical issues, trends and the overlap with civil cases. 

    Episode 28: Agency, Indirect Misappropriation and Intrinsic Knowledge as a Trade Secret

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2020 19:38


    In this episode, we discuss agency liability in the trade secret misappropriation context, the doctrine of indirect misappropriation, and intrinsic knowledge as a trade secret.  

    Episode 27: Attorneys’ Fees in Trade Secret Cases, Filing Under Seal and Challenges in Obtaining a TRO

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2020 14:49


    In this episode, we discuss the showing that’s required to obtain attorneys’ fees in a trade secret case, what you must establish to file documents under seal, and challenges in obtaining temporary restraining orders.

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