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When Daniel Kokotajlo talks to security experts at major AI labs, they tell him something chilling: “Of course we're probably penetrated by the CCP already, and if they really wanted something, they could take it.”This isn't paranoid speculation. It's the working assumption of people whose job is to protect frontier AI models worth billions of dollars. And they're not even trying that hard to stop it — because the security measures that might actually work would slow them down in the race against competitors.Full transcript, highlights, and links to learn more: https://80k.info/dkDaniel is the founder of the AI Futures Project and author of AI 2027, a detailed scenario showing how we might get from today's AI systems to superintelligence by the end of the decade. Over a million people read it in the first few weeks, including US Vice President JD Vance. When Daniel talks to researchers at Anthropic, OpenAI, and DeepMind, they tell him the scenario feels less wild to them than to the general public — because many of them expect something like this to happen.Daniel's median timeline? 2029. But he's genuinely uncertain, putting 10–20% probability on AI progress hitting a long plateau.When he first published AI 2027, his median forecast for when superintelligence would arrive was 2027, rather than 2029. So what shifted his timelines recently? Partly a fascinating study from METR showing that AI coding assistants might actually be making experienced programmers slower — even though the programmers themselves think they're being sped up. The study suggests a systematic bias toward overestimating AI effectiveness — which, ironically, is good news for timelines, because it means we have more breathing room than the hype suggests.But Daniel is also closely tracking another METR result: AI systems can now reliably complete coding tasks that take humans about an hour. That capability has been doubling every six months in a remarkably straight line. Extrapolate a couple more years and you get systems completing month-long tasks. At that point, Daniel thinks we're probably looking at genuine AI research automation — which could cause the whole process to accelerate dramatically.At some point, superintelligent AI will be limited by its inability to directly affect the physical world. That's when Daniel thinks superintelligent systems will pour resources into robotics, creating a robot economy in months.Daniel paints a vivid picture: imagine transforming all car factories (which have similar components to robots) into robot production factories — much like historical wartime efforts to redirect production of domestic goods to military goods. Then imagine the frontier robots of today hooked up to a data centre running superintelligences controlling the robots' movements to weld, screw, and build. Or an intermediate step might even be unskilled human workers coached through construction tasks by superintelligences via their phones.There's no reason that an effort like this isn't possible in principle. And there would be enormous pressure to go this direction: whoever builds a superintelligence-powered robot economy first will get unheard-of economic and military advantages.From there, Daniel expects the default trajectory to lead to AI takeover and human extinction — not because superintelligent AI will hate humans, but because it can better pursue its goals without us.But Daniel has a better future in mind — one he puts roughly 25–30% odds that humanity will achieve. This future involves international coordination and hardware verification systems to enforce AI development agreements, plus democratic processes for deciding what values superintelligent AIs should have — because in a world with just a handful of superintelligent AI systems, those few minds will effectively control everything: the robot armies, the information people see, the shape of civilisation itself.Right now, nobody knows how to specify what values those minds will have. We haven't solved alignment. And we might only have a few more years to figure it out.Daniel and host Luisa Rodriguez dive deep into these stakes in today's interview.What did you think of the episode? https://forms.gle/HRBhjDZ9gfM8woG5AThis episode was recorded on September 9, 2025.Chapters:Cold open (00:00:00)Who's Daniel Kokotajlo? (00:00:37)Video: We're Not Ready for Superintelligence (00:01:31)Interview begins: Could China really steal frontier model weights? (00:36:26)Why we might get a robot economy incredibly fast (00:42:34)AI 2027's alternate ending: The slowdown (01:01:29)How to get to even better outcomes (01:07:18)Updates Daniel's made since publishing AI 2027 (01:15:13)How plausible are longer timelines? (01:20:22)What empirical evidence is Daniel looking out for to decide which way things are going? (01:40:27)What post-AGI looks like (01:49:41)Whistleblower protections and Daniel's unsigned NDA (02:04:28)Audio engineering: Milo McGuire, Simon Monsour, and Dominic ArmstrongMusic: CORBITCoordination, transcriptions, and web: Katy Moore

This week's episode takes a sharp turn into the shadows as we welcome back actor Josh Warren, who joins us fresh off his appearance in Shudder's new reality competition series “Guts and Glory,” produced by none other than Greg Nicotero of The Walking Dead fame. Josh shares what it's like to be on the blood-soaked set (at least as much as his NDA allows), and gives us a peek behind the curtain of this wild new horror challenge. Then, we go full slasher mode as the gang dives headfirst into every Halloween movie in the Michael Myers franchise — all 13 of them. From Carpenter's classic to Rob Zombie's gritty remakes to the recent Blumhouse trilogy, we rank, debate, and resurrect decades of Haddonfield mayhem. It's a killer combo of horror nostalgia, behind-the-scenes talk, and pop-culture carnage that only Radio Labyrinth could deliver.

While Peter Banks has spent his entire career in the demolition industry, working anywhere from Boston to Detroit, he's now working on his biggest project yet—elevating the industry. Thanks to the National Demolition Association (NDA), the industry has common safety standards, training, and new legitimate certifications. Learn more by visiting the NDA website: https://www.demolitionassociation.com/ Learn more about attending the 2025 Ariat Dirt World Summit by visiting www.dirtworld.com! Questions or feedback? Email us at dirttalk@buildwitt.com!

Binance listing fees, finally out in the open. CJ Hetherington, Founder of Limitless, published the offer he received after no NDA. 8% of total token supply and $250k. We dig into why the founders accept deals like this, the hidden sell pressure, and how onchain price discovery can replace CEX gatekeeping. CJ also breaks down Limitless on Base, instant-settlement price markets, and the path to Coinbase via Aerodrome. ------

The AI adoption picture is nuanced In this episode, I share some fascinating insights about AI usage among writers and the impact it's having on their business. Last month, I sent out a simple 10-question survey to my community about AI usage, fears, and business impact. I received 157 complete responses from writers across every experience level, from brand-new freelancers to 15+ year veterans. What they shared was, in some ways, congruent with what I've been saying for the past few months on the topic of AI integration in our businesses as freelancers. But in other ways, the data was very surprising and went against some of my assumptions. . Overall, here's what I discovered: The story we're telling ourselves about AI and freelance writing — both the doom-and-gloom version and the "AI will solve everything" version — is missing something crucial. The real story is way more nuanced. More interesting. And way more hopeful. Below is a very short, high-level summary of what I uncovered. There's way more detail in the audio. And, again, you can download my full (and free) PDF report on the survey findings here: Key stats & signals Adoption is real: 93% use AI to some degree; ~74% are regular or fully integrated users. Impact splits three ways: 34% say AI elevates their work or enables new offerings; 41% mainly see time savings; ~25% report little or negative impact. The “integration dividend”: Fully integrated users were ~6.5x more likely than non-users to report revenue growth. Client disclosure: 49.7% haven't told clients they use AI. Among those who did, reactions skew positive/neutral 4:1 over negative. Security is the true brake: Confidentiality concerns are the only fear strongly correlated with hesitation. Market reality check: 86% report their business is doing about the same or better than a year ago. What's working (and what isn't) Winners focus on value, not speed. Positioning AI as a quality and capability lift draws nearly double the positive client reactions versus “it helps me go faster.” Dabbling doesn't pay. Occasional users see flat results; systematic workflows create compounding gains. Efficiency ≠ income, unless pricing and packaging evolve. One in three sees clear AI benefits without revenue growth because time savings get reinvested in the same low-margin work or “free” add-ons. Four writer personas Velocity Builders (29%) – Fully integrated, confident, doubling down. Next move: tighten packaging and raise fees. Cautious Optimizers (28%) – Consistent users, worried about client perceptions. Next move: use “value” framing when discussing process. DIY Skeptics (23%) – Occasional or non-users, held back by security/ethics. Next move: private-mode workflows and clear data policies. Value Elevators (20%) – Regular users leveraging AI for strategy and advisory. Next move: document outcomes and increase rates. Practical moves you can make this week Map your workflow and insert AI where it upgrades research, planning, analysis, repurposing, and client communication—not just drafting. Reframe your client narrative: “AI helps me spend more time on strategic thinking and client-specific insight.” Audit deliverables from the last 6 months and convert “extras” (competitive intel, repurposing plans, frameworks) into defined, billable components. Triage security: adopt approved tools/workspaces for NDA-sensitive work so you can move forward without risk. Recommended paths forward Efficiency Path: Do the same work faster. Good entry point; not durable on its own. Capability Path: Expand offerings and depth; move up the value ladder. Leadership Path: Guide clients on their own AI integration and workflows; highest leverage. Resources & next steps AI Advantage Bootcamp: Registration opens around October 20. Be on the lookout for details. And if you're not already.  Share the episode: Know a freelancer rethinking their positioning with AI? Send this their way.

Traditional archery seems to be growing in popularity as more and more hunters yearn for stepping back in time and pursuing deer in much the same way our ancestors once did. Like most new pursuits though, getting started can seem daunting, and initial bad experiences can lead to giving up prematurely.   On this episode of Deer Season 365, wildlife biologist, author, and lifelong conservationist Ron Rohrbaugh joins NDA's Nick Pinizzotto to talk about his personal traditional archery journey. He shares stories about his first hunts as a trad hunter and offers some excellent advice for people considering taking the plunge into the world of hunting with longbows and recurves.   Also discussed is the amazing camaraderie among trad hunters and how the community is always willing to lend a hand to newcomers. Ron also shares information about where to find his award-winning books and informative and entertaining videos on his YouTube channel. Featured Sponsor/Partners First Lite Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Important Links: Living Wild Media website The Living Wild Family YouTube channel The Living Wild Family Instagram Ron Rohrbaugh Books on Amazon Follow Brian Grossman on Instagram Follow Nick Pinizzotto on Instagram Sign up for NDA's free weekly e-newsletter   Subscribe to the Podcast on: Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeartRadio   About the National Deer Association The National Deer Association (NDA) is a non-profit deer conservation group that works to ensure the future of wild deer, wildlife habitat and hunting. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast! Support NDA's mission by becoming a member today.

If you're a regular purchaser of games, you're a stark minority within the very industry you know and love. We've known all about the revenue-related trends directing games as of late, but recent data indicates things are far more dire than they seem, particularly if you're a single player purist. For instance, a third of gaming consumers purchase less than one game a year; 12% buy one game a year; 18% buy two games a year. Only 14% of players buy at least one game a month! Yet, there's more money flowing than ever. Like, lots more. What gives? A migration of customers and their habits, of course! We discuss. Other news this week includes a brief Mark Cerny video celebrating Sony's collaboration with AMD for PlayStation 6, the reemergence of Marathon with invites to an NDA'd closed test, the bluest DualSense controller you could possibly imagine, rumors of a cancelled Reconstruction-era Assassin's Creed, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! Could Sony be on the precipice of adding to its family of first party studios? Is there a potential unfilled niche for medical-themed titles? Does PlayStation need to spin-up a new loyalty program? Forget about your favorite color. What's your favorite shape? Download the PrizePicks app and use code SACRED to get $50 in lineups after you play your first $5 Please keep in mind that our timestamps are approximate, and will often be slightly off due to dynamic ad placement. 0:00:00 - Intro0:37:16 - Strange places to listen to Sacred0:41:27 - Ben Debate0:52:43 - Favorite shape0:58:31 - Mark Cerny appears!1:09:26 - New player purchasing data1:29:11 - New Marathon technical test coming1:49:59 - New early PlayStation lore1:58:37 - New blue Dualsense2:03:38 - PlayStation Concert cancelled2:10:25 - Cancelled Assassin's creed leaked2:33:10 - Expedition 33 sells over 5 million, new content coming2:35:40 - New Circana data2:43:33 - Top PSN downloads2:47:34 - PowerWash Simulator 2 release date and Mina the Hollower delayed2:54:28 - What We're Playing (Ghost of Tsushima, Ghost of Yotei, Baby Steps, Mario Galaxy)3:27:58 - SIE and Sword of the Sea?3:31:39 - Will Rockstar innovate gameplay in GTA VI3:37:38 - What's the end point of live service?3:42:44 - What do "fans" want?3:55:38 - PlayStation Stars still floating around3:59:19 - Where are the medical games? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

It's Kyran and Rhys! George is on tour. Enjoy Rhys trying to talk about their announced involvement in the next season of The Traitors Australia while staying with the strict guideline of an NDA. Plus it's a Fwends question from perfect stand up comedian Liza Treyger. it's Fwends! AND FWENDS WITH BENEFITS IS HERE! You can now support us coming into your ears each week. Not like that. Grow up. Details below.- - -CONTACTText +61 431 345 145Voicemail - speakpipe.com/fwendspodEmail - fwendspod@gmail.comMail - PO Box 24144, Melbourne, VIC 3001, AustraliaFWENDS WITH BENEFITSGet ad free listening and access to the Simple Marvellous archive! (Simply Marvellous both the perfect adjective and also actually just the name of the old show).Apple - Subscribe above!Not Apple - https://fwends.supercast.comRATE AND REVIEWOf course you've already subscribed or followed the show, now we'd love you to leave a rating and a review. In whatever podcast app you're in right now, just throw down the 5 stars. Will make our day, and help to get the podcast into more people's ears (which will ultimately mean even bigger name guests for you!)INSTAGRAMFwends PodGeorgia MooneyRhys NicholsonKyran NicholsonYOUTUBESoon (how soon we don't know) you will be able to watch clips of the show on YouTube, click through and hit subscribe now to get them the second they appear: Fwends Pod YouTube Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The RSMS crew then takes a hard turn as NFL star Stefon Diggs faces serious domestic violence allegations from ex Mia Jones, who claims he assaulted her, causing a concussion and attempted to silence her with an NDA. Diggs vehemently denies those claims and has counter-sued for assault and extortion. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Rickey Smiley Morning Show Podcast opens with the triumphant return of Verzuz, as Cash Money and No Limit Records gear up for a historic face-off at ComplexCon in Las Vegas—marking the series’ first event in over three years. The RSMS crew then takes a hard turn as NFL star Stefon Diggs faces serious domestic violence allegations from ex Mia Jones, who claims he assaulted her, causing a concussion and attempted to silence her with an NDA. Diggs vehemently denies those claims and has counter-sued for assault and extortion. Rounding out the episode, former Vice President Kamala Harris reflected on the pain of her 2024 loss to Trump, admitting she’s been processing deep grief and regret over not challenging some decisions internally during the campaign. Harris also said that she grieved for the country due to Trump winning. Website: https://www.urban1podcasts.com/rickey-smiley-morning-show See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Torvalds is ranting about Rust, Google slightly walks back their developer verification plans, and Alpine Linux is moving to a user-merged filesystem. Bcachefs releases DKMS packages, Red Hat has an NDA with Nvidia, and Curl gets a genuinely awesome AI-powered bug report. For tips we cover the Raspberry Pi imager built right into Pi firmware, Immich for storing and organizing photos, and a WirePlumber logging how-to. You can find the show notes at https://bit.ly/3IuVnNV and enjoy! Host: Jonathan Bennett Co-Hosts: Ken McDonald and Jeff Massie Download or subscribe to Untitled Linux Show at https://twit.tv/shows/untitled-linux-show Want access to the ad-free video and exclusive features? Become a member of Club TWiT today! https://twit.tv/clubtwit Club TWiT members can discuss this episode and leave feedback in the Club TWiT Discord.

Torvalds is ranting about Rust, Google slightly walks back their developer verification plans, and Alpine Linux is moving to a user-merged filesystem. Bcachefs releases DKMS packages, Red Hat has an NDA with Nvidia, and Curl gets a genuinely awesome AI-powered bug report. For tips we cover the Raspberry Pi imager built right into Pi firmware, Immich for storing and organizing photos, and a WirePlumber logging how-to. You can find the show notes at https://bit.ly/3IuVnNV and enjoy! Host: Jonathan Bennett Co-Hosts: Ken McDonald and Jeff Massie Download or subscribe to Untitled Linux Show at https://twit.tv/shows/untitled-linux-show Want access to the ad-free video and exclusive features? Become a member of Club TWiT today! https://twit.tv/clubtwit Club TWiT members can discuss this episode and leave feedback in the Club TWiT Discord.

Interview date: March 9th, 2025Episode Summary:Melissa McGhee, Head Coach of The Ohio State University Dance Team and owner of Lineage Dance Company. With 13 national championships and nearly two decades of experience, Melissa is a leading figure in the collegiate dance world.Melissa shares her journey from a young studio dancer in Toledo, Ohio, to becoming OSU's head coach right after graduation, and later, a studio owner. She offers an inside look at the college dance team recruiting process, including timelines, audition requirements, and how OSU fills its highly competitive six open spots each year.Listeners will gain valuable insight into what coaches look for—technical skill, strong ballet foundation, versatility, professionalism, and a team-first mentality. Melissa discusses the importance of combining studio training with dance team experience, how to stand out in recruitment videos, and why NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals are helping dancers earn significant income while in college.She also emphasizes the role of character, mindset, and energy in selection decisions and offers advice for dancers navigating both performance and academics. This episode delivers essential guidance for dancers, parents, and coaches aiming for success in the collegiate dance world.Show Notes:(0:00) - Welcome to The Business of Dance Podcast & introduction to Melissa McGhee(2:10) - Melissa's early dance beginnings in Toledo, Ohio(4:15) - Dancing through high school and joining The Ohio State University Dance Team(6:30) - Transition from dancer to head coach immediately after graduation(9:10) - Building OSU's nationally recognized program and winning 13 championships(12:00) - Opening Lineage Dance Company in Upper Arlington, Ohio(14:20) - Balancing full-time coaching with running a dance studio(16:30) - How the college dance team recruiting model works(20:00) - Audition timelines, video submissions, and competition for six annual spots(22:45) - What OSU looks for in dancers: training, ballet foundation, versatility, professionalism(26:15) -Importance of combining studio and dance team experience(28:40) -NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) opportunities and how dancers are earning up to $20K annually(32:00) - Core values Melissa instills: hard work, maturity, consistency, kindness(35:30) - Tips for standing out in recruitment videos and following instructions(38:20) -Scholarship opportunities for dance team members(41:10)- Managing training schedules, academics, and performances(44:00) - Guest choreographers and style diversity in team training(47:30) - Career paths for dancers after graduation(50:00) - Current challenges in the dance team industry and collaboration solutions(54:15) - Final advice: character matters, the dance world is small, be a good human(57:00) - How to connect with Melissa McGheeBiography:A native of Toledo, Ohio, Melissa McGhee is a graduate of The Ohio State University where she obtained a B.S. in Business Administration. She is the current Head Coach of The Ohio State University Dance Team. Under her direction, the team won the program's first ever National Championship in 2018 and has thirteen total to date.After sixteen years of studio training, she now consults for dance studios and teams nationally and judges for numerous dance competitions including NDA, UDA, AmeriDance, Showcase America, Stage 8, OASSA, and USASF Dance Worlds. Melissa has been a speaker at the Varsity Dance Coaches Conference, National Dance Coaches Association Conference, CLI Studios and Intricate Training for Dancers. She was named National Dance Coaches Association (NDCA) College Coach of the Year in 2020 and served as the NDCA College President from 2020-2022. In 2022, Melissa opened doors to a dance studio in Upper Arlington, OH, Lineage Dance Co.Connect on Social Media:https://www.instagram.com/mmcghee65https://www.facebook.com/melissa.mcghee.39

We're discussing 2 controversial topics with Stassi Cramm, President of the Community of Christ. We'll focus on the controversial sale of Kirtland Temple, as well as the schism that followed the 1984 revelation on women's ordination. Which was more controversial? Check out our conversation... https://youtu.be/CIv5kq-x648 1984 Schism & Its Aftermath The 1984 revelation that allowed women to hold the priesthood led to an immediate schism within the church, which was then known as the RLDS Church. President Cramm, who was not present at the 1984 conference, describes the period as rancorous with hard feelings. Following the decision, there were significant conflicts, including debates over property ownership and padlocks being put on church doors as whole congregations pulled away from the main body of the church. The opposition was so strong that a resolution to rescind the 1984 revelation was brought forward at the 1986 conference, though it did not pass. President Cramm contrasts this divisive experience with how the church handled the more recent, and also potentially divisive, issue of same-sex marriage in the early 2010s. Learning from the past, Church leadership approached the topic more slowly, with years of study and conversation. They developed "the principles of faithful disagreement," which allow members to hold differing opinions on church decisions without being judged as unfaithful. While the church still lost members after implementing new policies on same-gender marriage in 2013, the schism was not as severe as in 1984. Today, there are still members who do not believe women should be ordained, and some voiced their opposition to President Cramm's call at the most recent conference, which she notes is acceptable within the church's framework. Sale of Kirtland Temple A significant portion of the conversation addresses the recent sale of Kirtland Temple and other historic sites to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. This decision was very difficult and emotional, comparable in some ways to the 1984 revelation. Key points regarding the sale: Lack of Conference Vote: The decision for the sale of Kirtland Temple was made by church leadership without a vote or formal input from the World Conference delegates. This was a major point of contention for members who felt the process contradicted the principle of common consent. A resolution was brought to the most recent conference demanding that future property sales receive conference approval, but it was ruled out of order. Rationale for Bypassing Conference: President Cramm explained that the resolution was ruled out of order because it conflicted with the scriptural and bylaw authority granted to the First Presidency and the Presiding Bishopric to act in the church's best overall interest. She also stated that giving 2,800 delegates enough information to make an informed recommendation was not feasible, and that leadership needed to be trusted to do their difficult job. Negotiation Secrecy: The negotiations on sale of Kirtland Temple were conducted under a non-disclosure agreement (NDA), which President Cramm described as a mutual decision to manage how information was released. A public debate or vote would have weakened the church's negotiating position, especially since it was determined that the LDS Church was the only entity capable of providing the necessary funds while ensuring the site's continued maintenance and accessibility. Financial Necessity: The sale was driven by a looming financial shortfall that threatened the church's ability to function globally. Leadership had a legal and moral obligation to keep the church operating and to ensure they could be good stewards of their properties. When it became clear they could no longer afford to properly maintain the temple, selling it was seen as the best option to preserve it. Response to "Revelation" Argument: When asked about the argument that the temple was given by...

When you ask most hunters who have successfully gotten close to mature deer what their number one priority is when heading to the woods, they'll tell you scent control and hunting in the right wind conditions. You could be hunting the best spot in the country with mature bucks everywhere, but if you don't control your scent, it won't matter. A whitetail's nose is its primary line of defense, so if you're serious about consistently achieving positive results, managing scent control should be your top priority. To help deliver that point, Jake Ehlinger of Habitat Solutions 360 joins Nick and The Doctor to talk about his extreme scent control routine and how it can be modified to fit your personal hunting situation. Jake is a well-known, successful mature buck hunter who brings a wealth of expertise in many areas, ranging from hunting whitetails to managing their habitat. As we head into hunting seasons across the country, this is the perfect time to hear this conversation. Featured Sponsor/Partners Whitetail Properties Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Important Links: Habitat Solutions 360 website Habitat Solutions 360 YouTube Follow Brian Grossman on Instagram Follow Nick Pinizzotto on Instagram Follow Kip Adams on Instagram Sign up for NDA's free weekly e-newsletter   Subscribe to the Podcast on: Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeartRadio   About the National Deer Association The National Deer Association (NDA) is a non-profit deer conservation group that works to ensure the future of wild deer, wildlife habitat and hunting. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast! Support NDA's mission by becoming a member today.

BOSSes, Anne Ganguzza is joined by Tom Dheere to discuss a foundational topic for every voiceover career: coaching. The hosts assert that every voice actor, from beginner to veteran, needs a coach. The Bosses explore why continuous learning is a necessity in today's saturated market, how to avoid being overwhelmed by industry information, and the combined importance of mastering both performance and business skills.   00:00 - Anne (Host) Hey Boss listeners. Are you ready to turn your voiceover career goals into achievements? With my personalized coaching and demo production, I'm here to help you reach new milestones. You know you're already part of a Boss community that strives for the very best. Let's elevate that. Your success is my next project. Find out more at anneganguzza.com.  00:25 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) It's time to take your business to the next level, the boss level. These are the premier business owner strategies and successes being utilized by the industry's top talent today. Rock your business like a boss a VO boss. Now let's welcome your host, Anne Ganguzza.  00:44 - Anne (Host) Hey everyone, welcome to the VO Boss podcast and the Real Bosses series. I'm your host, Anne Ganguzza, and I'm delighted to be here with Mr Tom Dheere. Yay, yay, hello Anne, hi Tom, yes, guess what, tom, it's that time of year again.  01:01 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) It is you?  01:01 - Anne (Host) know when everybody's going back to school.  01:05 - Tom (Guest) Back to school. Oh yeah, I already bought my trapper keeper.  01:09 - Anne (Host) Oh my gosh, I used to love those. You know that was one of my favorite things about going back to school is buying office supplies and getting ready, and I was one of those rare. I don't know, tom, if you were one of those students, but I loved school. Love, tom, if you were one of those students, but I loved school. Love, love, love school. And it was always exciting to me to, number one, go back for the social component of things and then to go back and like I don't know. I always wanted to like advance in my subjects, and so I was always excited about learning.  01:37 - Tom (Guest) Yeah, me too. I do love school supplies, like if anyone who knows me as just me, or me as the vo strategist like?  01:47 - Anne (Host) of course he loves school supplies right, you know, sharpened pencils and rulers and everything being organized, paper clips and clothes, clothes, my new school clothes.  01:54 - Tom (Guest) You know, hey, oh, love the school clothes. Gotta get the new school clothes.  01:58 - Anne (Host) Well then, speaking of school, you know. I mean maybe it's time that we have a chat about coaching, coaching in this industry. And does it matter, tom, does it? There's so much information out there. Does it matter? Is it beneficial?  02:15 - Tom (Guest) let's, let's, let's chat about that well, one at first. It's funny that we actually haven't talked about this in the few years that we've done the real bosses podcast and two. You know there's an old saying which is never ask an encyclopedia salesman if you need an encyclopedia.  02:28 - Anne (Host) Yes, exactly so you asking?  02:29 - Tom (Guest) me a voiceover coach. If voice actors need voiceover coaching, we'll say well, of course, the answer is yes.  02:34 - Anne (Host) I know and for me to say do we need coaching? As a coach and demo producer.  02:45 - Tom (Guest) Of course. Of course we're gonna say so. Yes, full disclosure. Of course, we as coaches, yes. But here's the thing about it is that I know ann does not accept everybody that that wants to work with her, and I know that not. I don't accept everybody that wants to work with me for all kind, for all kinds of uh, all kinds of reasons. But every voice, regardless of where they are in their journey, needs coaching. You always need to be learning. The greatest baseball players and musicians everyone has a coach. Tiger Woods has a swing coach. Aaron Judge has a baseball bat swing coach as opposed to a golf swing coach. All the greatest artists and athletes have coaching. Do they know more than most? Can they do it better than most? Of course, that's why they are in the positions that they are in doing what they're doing, making what they're making, being as famous as they are, but it's a constant, constant sort of you know all the arts. There needs to be a constant level of education re-education, continuous learning, as they say, absolutely.  03:49 - Anne (Host) And if you're just starting out in the industry, you have to have a fundamental base. And there is, you know, hey, I am the biggest you know. And Google and gangoozle, and gangoozle, and gangoozle, whatever, I am the biggest lover of you know. Search the internet, find the answers. Because I mean, gosh, back in the day, you remember when we used to have to do research, we'd have to actually go to the library and then you would write, like I'd have to write notes for my term paper on like, on like index cards.  04:17 - Tom (Guest) What is this library? What is?  04:19 - Anne (Host) this library. What is this library? Well, our, I mean the library is at our fingertips and so we can. I mean, there's so much out there and, tom, both you and I put out a lot of content in regards to this industry and you know the business of the industry and performance. I give out performance tips and so I think a lot of times when you're first starting out, it can be really overwhelming, and so having a source, a coach, to go to, to kind of make it less overwhelming, can be an actual advantage as well.  04:52 As for me, what was I saying the other day? Oh, in my Pilates class I was like, yeah, I pay to go to this Pilates class so I can do the stretching on the foam roller that I have here at home and I just don't do Right, so I go and use the foam roller that's at the Pilates studio. But there's something to be said in being in a classroom and and actually saying I am dedicating this time for me to learn something or to, you know, to, to, to grow myself, and coaching is a big part of that grow myself, and coaching is a big part of that.  05:30 - Tom (Guest) I agree, the ability to take time and money to commit to a process that you know in. To a certain degree, you could do some of it on your own, but a lot of people most people, I would say like the reason why I have so many mentorship students that I have is that they're like I just need you.  05:48 I just need to have someone to talk to once a month, bounce ideas off of and hold me accountable for it and when you have, and I love accountability and I love stand up groups and meet up groups, but when they actually have to fork money over to me to basically be a paid accountability buddy, there's something to that, something to that I mean. And also, you know, when you're in an accountability buddy group with an accountability buddy or a mastermind group or standup group, that's all great, but most of them are peers.  06:19 Yes, absolutely With the same level of experience and knowledge as you as opposed to working with you or me or another coach who is just have you know, scads of knowledge and experience and the ability to disseminate that knowledge effectively. And also, I know you and I know you keep up with industry trends on a performance and technology and business and marketing level. So do I. We have to do that to be relevant and effective. We have our means. We read the same blogs and watch the same podcasts as everybody else, but I'm sure I know I have my own little secret methods of how I'm keeping up with things, and I'm sure you do too that we're able to aggregate and have, in a concise Anne, to say this is what's going on in the industry, this is how it applies to you. These are the decisions that you could make based on who you are, your talent level, your experience level, the time you have, the money you have that could get you where you want to go.  07:15 - Anne (Host) Well, and the accountability it doesn't just stop with the student. I mean, the coach is accountable. And that is, I think, where the difference is between peer accountability groups, because peer accountability groups, yeah, we can say, yeah, you were supposed to do this last week, or you, this is, this is on your goal sheet, but the stakes are not as high. I don't believe in a peer accountability group as a coach, because coaches are judged on their effectiveness, right, and they they get business based upon their effectiveness and word of mouth. So when you want to go work with someone where that is a factor, you're going to get education.  07:54 That, I think, really counts and is really intentional and therefore, I believe the quality of that is going to be better and it's going to be directly customized, especially if it's one-on-one coaching, and I do both group coaching and one-on-one coaching. But really, when you get that one-on-one time with a coach, there's nothing better than that, because I mean, I look, I offer group coaching as well, but that one-on-one time is precious. That is where it is all about you. It's customized just for you, your career, your growth. And that is where I think coaching really shines and why it still matters and I think, actually, I think it matters more today than it did in years past, because there's so much more competition out there, tom and there's, of course, you know, the synthetic competition out there there, tom, and there's, of course, you know, the synthetic competition out there and we need to really create something, a footprint for ourselves or a voice print, really for ourselves, that is unique and that is competitive and that can actually connect with our audience, which is what our clients are paying us for.  08:59 - Tom (Guest) Yeah, there are more voiceover opportunities for voice actors of all experience levels than ever ever before. There's more genres than ever. There are more voiceover opportunities for voice actors of all experience levels than ever ever before. There's more genres than ever. There are more casting sites than ever, you know, because when I just started, you know there was radio commercials and TV commercials and you know not that much. I mean there was e-learning, reel-to-reel kind of stuff. You know there wasn't that much more.  09:24 Now there's app narration, explainer videos, you know, audio description. There's just so many other ways to get work. But the flip side of that, Anne, is that it's so complicated because there's almost like there's too many choices and there's too many coaches and there's too many casting sites and there's too many blogs and too many podcasts and too many DAWs and too many CRMs and the ability to navigate that and make sure that their time and money is well spent. It's a huge challenge. I mean, I'm on Reddit pretty regularly hanging out on the voiceover related subreddits and listening and watching and, you know, giving advice and stuff like that, and they all say the same thing I don't know where to find a good coach. I don't know how to vet a good coach. I got ripped off by this coach, isn't?  10:15 - Anne (Host) that funny? That's always the question. That's always the question because I think everybody's overwhelmed with that information. You know, I don't think it's unlike just because it's you know the online world today. I don't think it's unlike choices that you have in most everything, right, where can you find a good one? And so what do we do? We rely on word of mouth, we rely on recommendations from our peers who have had a good coach and can recommend a good coach, and so I think that it's good that we have the community and coaches that are out there. You know, hopefully you have a good reputation and if you don't, and if you're just kind of a fly by night coach, well, people will find that out too. So I think that it's, in a way, it's good that there is lots of talk and communication and I always tell you know people, testimonials are always, they're so worthwhile, and word of mouth and communication, and I always tell you know people, testimonials are always, they're so worthwhile and and word of mouth and recommendations. It really is kind of the way, I think, to get work, to get a good coach to do all of that. But I'm talking for me. I'm involved in the performance aspect of the coaching.  11:19 But you right, first of all, you can have the best voice, you can do the best audition, you can be, have the best performance skills ever, but if somebody doesn't know how to find you, or you're not marketing yourself properly, or you don't have your business set up properly guess what? You're not you're gonna sit there and not get hired. I just spoke to a new student the other day who I literally said he's got four demos. And I and he said, like he's been in the business for six years. And he's like well, I don't have an aging yet and I haven't had a VO job yet. And I'm like well, why have you not had a VO job yet? I mean, he's not like he hasn't spent his money. You know what I mean, and so he needs right.  12:00 And then I went and looked at his website. There's absolutely no. And I said, well, you have no examples of work that you've done. You have, you know, and you can't expect to get it all with just an agent, depending on the genre you're in. And he, basically, I said you can have the best voice in the world, but it's not going to do you any good if nobody can find you. So that's where your business coaching comes into play. So it's not just performance coaching that I think is necessary and business coaching is the non-sexy. It's kind of like I do corporate voiceover and it's like the non-sexy part of voiceover. I think business coaching sometimes gets that same stigma and in fact, it's something that I think people need more than ever, more than ever today. Right, and of course, talk about that, tom, of course as the VO strategist, I always say that everybody should get a business coach.  12:44 - Tom (Guest) But to your point is that you could work with me for years and have the best business model, have the best marketing strategies, but if you're not an effective performer, it's not going to matter.  12:58 Yeah, yeah, just like you said, you could be the best performer in the world, but if nobody knows you exist, it's not going to matter either. So it's this synergistic relationship of developing your what I call your storytelling skills, your VO-101 skills, breath control, microphone technique, your genre skills, you know, to be able to be demo ready, to make that shiny demo, and then you can do the things with the demo, which is what I, as the VO strategist, helps everybody with, and everybody has their own journey. Everybody has their own relationship with themselves internally, which it's our job as coaches to be like. Ok, you know, how does this person tick, how does this person respond? How does this person respond to criticism? How does this person respond to praise? How does this person respond to data? You know, and everybody has their own ideas of what success is for them. And these, you know, these people love these social media platforms and these people hate social media and these people hate all social media, and you know.  14:00 And these people hate social media, and these people hate all social media, and you know. And these people hate online casting sites and so on and so forth. So everybody has their own biases and tendencies and, as effective coaches, on both a performance level and a business and marketing level, you know it's our job to be able to navigate that, and that's why the single most important skill that every voiceover coach performance, business, marketing, tech or otherwise has to have is the ability to listen, which also is the same exact skill that every voice actor needs to be a successful, effective, relevant voice actor. So, if you're having a conversation with someone you're considering coaching with and you can't get a word in because they're talking about themselves or that one cartoon they did 30 years ago, or if it's all sell, sell, sell, that tells you something, because they are not asking you what your pain points are Sure.  14:53 - Anne (Host) Every good marketer Help you solve them.  14:55 - Tom (Guest) Exactly Every good marketer, whether it's a a commercial, tired of using this old mop this way. You know. That's identifying the pain point. If I used to use, I use this mop. This mop stinks. Go use this mop. This mop's great. If there isn't any kind of centered likes, any kind of back and forth, reciprocal. You know what are, what are you going through, what are what challenges have you? What are your struggles? Oh okay, well, based on this, this and this, I can help you with this, this and this, as opposed to some. You know old hack, who's just going to throw these stock scripts at you and you know in three lessons. And then you get your demo using the same scripts that everybody uses or a new hack, who you know?  15:32 - Anne (Host) there are new hacks we've seen a lot of those out there.  15:35 - Tom (Guest) I have noticed quite a few new hacks lately both in the performance and business and marketing categories.  15:42 - Anne (Host) I think also, when you talk about an industry that has evolved and changed so much and especially, you know, this year's been an interesting year I mean you've got changes in things outside of the industry that are affecting, you know, corporations and affecting people who advertise, and affecting the climate of what we do, and so that makes people scared to advertise Sometimes, it makes people scared to spend money. It makes, you know there's all sorts of things happening outside of our industry that affect our industry as well as you know. I mean what's happening in your own personal life as well as you know. I mean what's happening in your own personal life. So we talk about the necessity of performance coaching and business coaching, but there's also, believe it or not, there's something to be said for, you know, coaching of the mind and coaching to be a confident performer, a confident business person, somebody who can be competitive and negotiate in these times where it seems like everybody's vying for the same job, and so there's also mindset skills, I think, that are also valuable to be coached. I think, like you said it in the beginning, like a lifelong learner, I think we always have to be learning. We always have to be learning, and do we have to spend tons and tons of money doing it. No, not necessarily, but I do think that there's an investment there and I think it's something that you need to revisit.  17:08 If you did get coaching prior to your demo, maybe five years ago, and now maybe you need a new demo.  17:15 I personally think that everything needs a refresh and, you know, if you haven't coached in a while, I feel like having someone else's ears listen to you. If you haven't been booking why, why is that? Go to a trusted coach and have them listen to you and see if maybe you've fallen into some sort of a rut where maybe you're not delivering performance-wise I don't know a rut where maybe you're not delivering performance wise. Or, for example, when I spoke to the student yesterday who's like well, I haven't gotten a job yet, and I'm like OK, first of all, I'm looking at your website and you don't have downloadable demos. Your website, your demos, are five years old. You know there's lots of things that can contribute to not getting hired, and so I think that the coaching can. Yes, it's definitely investment, but again, remember, any business, you have investments and I think that again, more than ever, it is important to be educated and understand how you can evolve with the changing VO industry of today.  18:15 - Tom (Guest) I think what I agree with everything that you said wholeheartedly, on top of all, that all voice actors need to invest in empowerment. That is one of the biggest deficiencies that most aspiring voice actors have coming into the industry. They immediately, you know, disempower themselves. They immediately devalue themselves because they have this and this is a system of thought thing that I talk about all the time, Anne is that most people coming into the voice industry think that the industry is vertical, it's a ladder or a mountain and you have to climb it and as you climb it, you kick people in the face and knock them off the ladder or the mountain like it's some reality show and you go ha ha, I take your videos now.  19:01 Haha, I narrate them. You don't blah, blah. That's not how it works. I've always talked about how the voiceover industry is spherical and you're the center of your sphere and your job is to expand your sphere and empower yourself by including as many good humans in it as possible, both agents and managers and audio engineers and coaches and fellow voice actors and your accountant and your lawyer and your graphic designer or your social media manager or whoever to empower you so you can make the best decisions possible to expand that sphere and move your voiceover business forward.  19:36 So to work with an effective coach to be or just to be, just to be educating yourself in general is to empower you you know, on both a personal and a professional level, and the more that you can do that, the better chance you have of making those voiceover dreams come true.  19:55 - Anne (Host) I mean, and and speaking of, we always talk about, what are the red flags? What are the red flags right? How do we know a coach is worthy of my investment? Right, a coach, a business coach or performance coach? You know, I like to start with. First of all, let's let's talk about what it takes to get a good coach. I mean, what are the? What are the green flags Right? What? What do you look for in a good coach? What are some properties of a good coach? Would you?  20:22 - Tom (Guest) say you touched on this earlier. Reputation is definitely one. I mean there's the reputation of someone like a Jennifer Hale who holds the Guinness World Record for the most amount of video game characters ever recorded by a female. So there's a level of something that comes with that.  20:42 Jen also happens to be a great articulator and a great coach, but then there's other coaches that have done one character decades ago hasn't done much work since, and then that's the only thing that they hang their shingle and their reputation on this one character that they played a very, very long time ago. Shingle and their reputation on this one character that they played a very, very long time ago. Jennifer, like you and me and a bunch of our other coaching and voiceover friends are boots on the ground day to day, dare I say, in the trenches. Voice actors. We are working, we are auditioning and marketing and booking regularly. So I always say the first green flag for a good voiceover coach is to go to their voice actor website and go check that out.  21:26 See what they've got, see what they have done recently, see if their demos and YouTube Anne and playlists have been updated recently, check their IMDB profiles and see what work they have done. And layered on top of that, you know, as a voice actor, reputation, obviously, as a voiceover, coach, reputation, testimonials on the website, testimonials on social media platforms, conversations that people are having behind our back on various social media platforms or in subreddits or Discord servers or or facebook groups, like though that's some of the major. Those are two of the biggest green flags is the. You know, because you never know and there is no guarantee of any voice actor achieving any level of success, but you know your chances of empowerment will increase if you work with someone who knows what they're doing, has been doing it for a long time and is doing it today.  22:19 - Anne (Host) Yeah, exactly. So they have evolved over the evolution of the voiceover industry and so they know. They know what agents are looking for, they know what casting directors are looking for, they know what is relevant and current in the industry. So red flags on the other side.  22:38 - Tom (Guest) Well, the red flags are if they just started. There's a lot of voice actors or aspiring voice actors who do a couple of gigs and all of a sudden they hang out their shingle as a voiceover business coach and marketing coach, or performance coach. You and I see it all the time.  22:55 - Anne (Host) I think there has to be some longevity to it.  22:57 - Tom (Guest) Yeah, there needs to be some longevity to it. Yeah, there needs to be some longevity. Now. Everybody has to start somewhere, and you know someone who may turn out to be the greatest performance or business coach ever has to start somewhere, and start with one student.  23:12 And you know what I mean, but for those that haven't been in the industry for very long, that have little or no IMDB credits or have little or no samples on their voiceover website, all of a sudden they're a coach. Well, that's telling you something, and I've seen it from personal experience. People working, for example, with me get some business coaching from me and then a couple months later they're all of a sudden a business coach. And I'm like wait a minute, wait a minute, they never last.  23:38 - Anne (Host) Well, I always think they never last, though.  23:41 You know, for me it's always like and people say this all the time, right, you know the quick success, right, and I see it in. You know ads, in ads like, hey, you don't need expensive equipment or training to be a voice actor. And you know those are designed to sell the dream. And again we have to say it, you know, and it sounds like a broken record, but just if we reach just one person right and I always tell people like, honestly, it's a skill You're becoming an actor. I mean, that doesn't happen overnight. It is a marathon, not a sprint. It really is a marathon, and the people who are truly successful in this industry know that. And marathon by marathon, I'm not talking six months, I'm not talking three months, I'm not talking, I'm talking years, years of working in this industry and putting in the work, doing the auditions, getting the training. Those are the ones that become successful.  24:38 - Tom (Guest) Absolutely. This is a long-term investment. It's just like going to college, going to medical school, going to trade school going to vocational school.  24:49 It takes a long time to develop the skills and collect the tools, both literal, physical, microphone headphones, daw and the other business and marketing tools understanding how to write a business plan, how to create a marketing strategy, how to make long-term investments through blogging and social media, how to make short-term investments through auditioning on free casting sites and then developing your skills, and then maybe moving to pay-to-play casting sites which have higher quality, higher paying auditions and then using that to develop your skills to maybe then you're ready to submit to agents. There are things that have to happen in order. You know, a tomato can't grow until you plant the seed, water it and wait.  25:37 - Anne (Host) Right, exactly. Well, I love that because so many people are like well, I can't invest in another demo or more coaching until I make money in the industry. So, oh gosh, I wish I had a nickel for every time. Somebody said that to me and I'm like but it doesn't quite work like that In reality. You do have to make an initial upfront investment and it may take you a minute before you make that money back. And so you've got to get the skills developed in both running your business, establishing that you know, hanging out the shingle on your online website. There's money involved in that. There's money involved in you know setting up your business or getting you know good business coaching, advertising yourself. And there's, of course, money in performance wise being, you know, coached so that you're competitive.  26:26 In today's industry, you're competitive and doing well, and even the people who do, who are great performers. It's not always an immediate return on investment. I mean, gosh, I mean I've spoken to veterans out there. I mean you have to understand. You have to be in it long enough to understand that you're not going to get a commercial a day necessarily. I mean I don't know anybody that ever has, and that dream can't be sold to you. You really just have to be. I think you have to think what Malcolm? I always go back to Malcolm Gladwell 10,000 hours, really 10,000 hours of effort and you know to really start to see effective success. And then you evolve into growing into a better performer, a better actor, a better business person. Tom, if somebody's interested in it, how much would you say is when is a good time to invest? When do they take that step and say plunk down my money, here's my money, coach me.  27:37 - Tom (Guest) I would say what has to happen. I think the first thing that has to happen is that they have to invest in storytelling training first. Theater training, on-camera training, singing training, improv training, stand-up comedy training. Pick one of those disciplines.  27:52 - Anne (Host) But does that mean they have to spend money and go to an acting class? Not necessarily.  27:55 - Tom (Guest) I mean improv troops are free. You know open mic night is free. You know there's community theater is free. There's lots of places where they can develop that skill, because first they need to find out if they have that skill they don't want to be on stage.  28:09 - Anne (Host) That's why they're right. That's why they're doing it behind the mic. That's why right.  28:13 - Tom (Guest) So for those people. Right, and the thing about that is they need to find out if they have the ability, through the power of their voice, to engage and be engaging. If you can do that through those, then you can. Then that's when I think is a good time to start your VO training. Here's the other thing, Anne, is that you know. You mentioned briefly AI at the beginning of it. If you are better than AI when you're, you know when you're starting to invest in your training, you're not going to get anywhere.  28:42 - Anne (Host) And what's going to make the difference? And AI reads really well. So if you're nothing but a really pretty reader, yeah, you got no shot.  28:48 - Tom (Guest) You're not going to advance. That's why getting acting, theater, improv, stand up or singing training is going to already you're hitting the ground running by already being better than AI when you're, once you're ready for your VO training. That's why I think you should really start that way.  29:02 - Anne (Host) Yeah, One thing I do want to stress is that my coaching has gone. It was always been acting based. I mean it starts with acting based. So for those people who've never taken acting course, I always I always recommend that they take an acting course anyway, because there's a subtle difference between acting in front of other people or acting with people and then acting behind the mic, and it's nice to have that 360 degree view of all the aspects of the acting. And a good coach will teach you voice acting and not just here's a script, here's how and direct you to a sound that would sound good on a demo, really, and that's why I concentrate. I'm almost obsessed with personally training people to be good actors, because that's going to last them so much longer than just a directed demo. Right, Because if any good director can direct you to a good demo, really it's.  29:55 You know they can give you the read that people are looking for and then you can have a great demo. But then, all of a sudden, when you're asked to produce that or you're trying to audition and you're wondering why you're not booking the jobs, that's because you haven't established the basic skills, the basic acting skills required. Definitely, investment is not just in a voice acting coach, but, yes, in, I think, acting classes, improv classes. All of that can help. All of that can help.  30:21 - Tom (Guest) Absolutely. It's just going to make you that much better, that much faster and that much better of a decision maker than AI, because the real skill, when it comes to true performance, is not about what impressions you can do is can you make strong acting choices quickly, right, right, right. And if you can do that when the client says, hey, abc. That for me, and you can do is can you make strong acting choices quickly, right, right, right. And if you can do that when the client says, hey, abc that for me, and you can give them three takes with different emphasis and different motivations and different levels of engagement.  30:47 That's what's going to get you ahead of the pack.  30:50 - Anne (Host) And honestly, it's one of those things that you have to understand that if you're looking, if you happen to just be getting in this industry and you watch social media, be careful with that, because a lot of what happens on social media is all the positive things, all the hey I booked the gig but I can't tell you about it, or the illusion that you know people are successful, because you know it takes a very special person to be on social media and say, oh gosh, I didn't nail it and I'm so upset Because a lot of times, well, first of all, if it's something that's under NDA, we can't really talk about it anyways.  31:28 But if you give the illusion or you're looking at other people that are giving the illusion that they're successful and making tons of money and they just started or they didn't do it this way, there's multiple ways to be successful in voiceover and there are some people that would say you don't necessarily need coaching. Honestly, I don't buy into that, but I think at some point everybody needs to have that extra ear, hearing them or giving them some sort of education about it, whether it could be a manager, it could be a talent agent. It doesn't have to be an actual voiceover coach, but somebody that's giving you feedback so that you can then take that feedback and improve. Do what you need to educate and improve yourself.  32:12 - Tom (Guest) I think you touched upon something very critical which is one of the most important skills is the ability to self-direct and with COVID wiping out all in-person auditions, at least here in New York City, and for most voice actors, almost 100% of their actual bookings are going to be taking place at home, not being directed. Then you need to learn how to listen to yourself objectively when it comes to pace and tone and inflection and sibilance and regionalisms and mic placement and breath control and, obviously, performance choices. That you should be able to learn how to hear yourself and adjust accordingly, because if you can't do that, you can't be an effective voice actor.  32:58 - Anne (Host) That's a process being able to self-direct, it's being able to develop an ear. An ear doesn't happen overnight, typically, it just doesn't. It's hard for people to actually hear themselves without actually hearing how they sound and to evaluate themselves as an actor. So it is tough. Themselves as an actor. So it is tough. And it does take, I think, a lot of I'm going to say a lot of practice, a lot of you know, auditions, a lot of failing, a lot of just going oh shoot, what could I have done wrong? Or maybe feedback, and so, yeah, there's a lot to that. I mean, gosh, we could just go on all day. But guys, again, you know we're both coaches. Of course we'd love it if you coach with us, but just know that it's valuable. It's valuable in today's voiceover industry to have another set of ears, to have a trusted coach, somebody. That's what they do. They've been established in the business that is guiding you along this career, which, again, is a marathon not a sprint. Good discussion, tom, yeah.  33:57 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) Good discussion All right, tom.  33:58 - Anne (Host) Yeah, good discussion. All right guys. I'm going to give a great big shout out to our sponsor, ipdtl. You too can network and connect like bosses, like real bosses. Find out more at IPDTLcom. Have an amazing week and we'll see you next week. Bye.  34:13 - Speaker 2 (Announcement) Join us next week for another edition of VO Boss with your host, Anne Ganguzza, and take your business to the next level. Sign up for our mailing list at vobosscom and receive exclusive content, industry revolutionizing tips and strategies and new ways to rock your business like a boss. Redistribution with permission. 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En este episodio nos acompaña DEALE, el marketplace que está digitalizando la compra-venta de pymes en España. Contamos cómo funciona el proceso de principio a fin: desde la preparación y el NDA hasta la oferta, reuniones y data room y por qué la tecnología acorta tiempos y reduce fricciones en operaciones reales. El tamaño medio de la operación ronda los 4 M€ de precio de compra; como referencia, una empresa “tipo” factura ~4 M€ y genera ~650–700 k€ de EBITDA (≈15%), con múltiplos habituales de 4–5× EBITDA. Hablamos también del dealflow: más de 1.000 empresas se interesan cada mes por listarse, lo que alimenta un embudo que acaba en ofertas indicativas y cierres; el año pasado se generaron ~100 ofertas y se cerró en torno al 10%; este año ya van 18 operaciones cerradas entre enero y septiembre, con pipeline para superar la treintena. En acumulado, unas 50 operaciones cerradas 100% vía DEALE suman ~200 M€, de las que el 60% se han firmado en el último año. Además repasamos quién compra: industriales y family offices son la mayoría, aprox. 65% de los usuarios activos en la plataforma, seguidos de perfiles individuales; los fondos representan un porcentaje pequeño. Y explicamos el modelo de negocio: suscripción y comisión de éxito.En España se registran 7.000–8.000 operaciones de pymes al año en notaría, impulsadas en gran parte por el relevo generacional; desde Barcelona.

In today's show we get a huge shout out on TV, we see what's happening in the neighborhood in meet the neighbors, talk to comedian Taylor Williamson, Ally signs an NDA, Klein gets into shark sex, Vanessa tries to say no to donuts, we bring back Is It Worth It and give you a how quiz

HOUR 3- The 10 Second Talent Show, Ally's NDA and MORE full 1815 Thu, 25 Sep 2025 15:42:00 +0000 jkOtKXIcqqCs1Z9g9T6OJ9EvM2QALAUl society & culture Klein/Ally Show: The Podcast society & culture HOUR 3- The 10 Second Talent Show, Ally's NDA and MORE Klein.Ally.Show on KROQ is more than just a "dynamic, irreverent morning radio show that mixes humor, pop culture, and unpredictable conversation with a heavy dose of realness." (but thanks for that quote anyway). Hosted by Klein, Ally, and a cast of weirdos (both on the team and from their audience), the show is known for its raw, offbeat style, offering a mix of sarcastic banter, candid interviews, and an unfiltered take on everything from culture to the chaos of everyday life. With a loyal, engaged fanbase and an addiction for pushing boundaries, the show delivers the perfect blend of humor and insight, all while keeping things fun, fresh, and sometimes a little bit illegal. 2024 © 2021 Audacy, Inc. Society & Culture False https://player.amperwavepodcasting.com

Recent headlines about SA influencers promoting an allegedly exploitative work program in Russia had the public in an uproar, but those who work in the entertainment industry were less surprised. In this episode I explore the dark side of the glitzy photos and bright lights of fame. I'm joined by the incredible Rosie Motene who shares personal insights from her 30 years in the industry. Resources mentioned in the episode: Rosie's blog: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dreams-for-sale-137364267?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link&fbclid=IwY2xjawMiCNdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHloq9pE0a5RTV5CqXGubq2a51PMmtIj-vuY1I6HsV8d9mk7FzBER8iFHKd_v_aem_XWheAIQG4_Tnv3btzOARtw Rosie's life coaching space: https://www.letsatsihealing.info/ The official report on Alabuga Start: https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/who-is-making-russias-drones/ NDA enforcement in South Africa: https://www.polity.org.za/article/ndas-and-workplace-harassment-south-africas-existing-legal-protections-2025-08-12 (24-hr trauma helpline 082-821-3447) (Support the show on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/truecrimesa) (Support the show on PayPal https://www.paypal.me/truecrimesa) Instagram · Pinterest · Facebook · YouTube · Twitter · LinkedIn

Recent headlines about SA influencers promoting an allegedly exploitative work program in Russia had the public in an uproar, but those who work in the entertainment industry were less surprised. In this episode I explore the dark side of the glitzy photos and bright lights of fame. I'm joined by the incredible Rosie Motene who shares personal insights from her 30 years in the industry. Resources mentioned in the episode: Rosie's blog: https://www.patreon.com/posts/dreams-for-sale-137364267?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link&fbclid=IwY2xjawMiCNdleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHloq9pE0a5RTV5CqXGubq2a51PMmtIj-vuY1I6HsV8d9mk7FzBER8iFHKd_v_aem_XWheAIQG4_Tnv3btzOARtw Rosie's life coaching space: https://www.letsatsihealing.info/ The official report on Alabuga Start: https://globalinitiative.net/analysis/who-is-making-russias-drones/ NDA enforcement in South Africa: https://www.polity.org.za/article/ndas-and-workplace-harassment-south-africas-existing-legal-protections-2025-08-12 (24-hr trauma helpline 082-821-3447) (Support the show on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/truecrimesa) (Support the show on PayPal https://www.paypal.me/truecrimesa) Instagram · Pinterest · Facebook · YouTube · Twitter · LinkedIn

In episode 4 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast,  I'm joined by Kip Adams of the National Deer Association for an important conversation on some of the biggest issues facing Pennsylvania hunters today. We cover the growing challenge of chronic wasting disease (CWD) and why testing, awareness, and smart prevention efforts are so critical for protecting our herds. Kip explains why CWD is such a serious threat—100% fatal to deer—and outlines how hunters, wildlife agencies, and the NDA are working together to manage and slow its spread. We also dive into opportunities and responsibilities for hunters, from the new Sunday hunting opportunities in Pennsylvania to the importance of increasing the harvest of antlerless deer for better herd balance. Kip highlights how habitat management, collaboration, and community engagement play a vital role in keeping deer populations healthy for the future. Whether it's understanding the risks of moving high-risk deer parts, improving local habitat, or simply getting involved with NDA programs, this episode gives hunters the tools and knowledge to make a real impact. So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up! www.antlerupoutdoors.com www.tethrdnation.com www.huntworthgear.com  www.sportsmensempire.com  https://deerassociation.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 4 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast,  I'm joined by Kip Adams of the National Deer Association for an important conversation on some of the biggest issues facing Pennsylvania hunters today. We cover the growing challenge of chronic wasting disease (CWD) and why testing, awareness, and smart prevention efforts are so critical for protecting our herds. Kip explains why CWD is such a serious threat—100% fatal to deer—and outlines how hunters, wildlife agencies, and the NDA are working together to manage and slow its spread.We also dive into opportunities and responsibilities for hunters, from the new Sunday hunting opportunities in Pennsylvania to the importance of increasing the harvest of antlerless deer for better herd balance. Kip highlights how habitat management, collaboration, and community engagement play a vital role in keeping deer populations healthy for the future. Whether it's understanding the risks of moving high-risk deer parts, improving local habitat, or simply getting involved with NDA programs, this episode gives hunters the tools and knowledge to make a real impact.So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up!www.antlerupoutdoors.comwww.tethrdnation.comwww.huntworthgear.comwww.sportsmensempire.comhttps://deerassociation.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Lucy McCann is joined by Zelda Perkins, CEO of Can't Buy My Silence UK and former PA to Harvey Weinstein, who broke her NDA and has since campaigned against the use of NDAs to silence workers speaking out against abuse, and Emma Darlow Stearn, a barrister practising from Cloisters Chambers, who specialises in employment and discrimination law and, in her previous role as Senior Legal Adviser for whistleblowing charity Protect, collaborated with Zelda to make the law on NDAs more accessible. Zelda shares her personal story about the signing and breaking of her NDA, which had prevented her speaking up about Harvey Weinstein's behaviour, and about her campaign Can't Buy My Silence UK which has in large part led to amendments to the Employment Rights Bill (under Clause 22A) that will ban employers from using NDAs in cases of harassment and discrimination. Zelda and Emma discuss the nature and possible impact of those amendments which, since the time of recording, have been approved by the House of Commons and are due to become law in Autumn 2025 as s.202A Employment Rights Act 1996. Law Pod UK is published by 1 Crown Office Row. This episode was co-produced by 1 Crown Office Row and Emma Darlow Stearn. Supporting articles are published on the UK Human Rights Blog. Follow and interact with the podcast team on Twitter.

Randy West is a a longtime TV announcer for: The Price is Right, Deal or No Deal, Supermarket Sweep … his new book is called:"TV Inside-Out - Flukes, Flakes, Feuds and Felonies: The backstage blunders, bloopers and blasphemy of celebrities in search of success"Randy Talks:-How he met longtime Price is Right announcer Johnny Olson when he 14 years old-The stories he writes about: Jerry Lewis puts a hit out on Joan Rivers life; Desi Arnaz has a mafia hit put out on him -Wink Martindale wouldn't go out of his house without fixing his hair-The new documentary on the Price is Right "Holly Hallstrom was one of the girls involved in a lawsuit and she got a $3 million dollar settlement without an NDA...and she will be talking along with several of the other models"-

Send us a textWhat does it really take to wear the Olive Green? In this exclusive episode of The Kapeel Gupta Career PodShow, I sit down with Major General Shammi Sabharwal (Retd.)—a decorated veteran of the Indian Army's Regiment of Artillery with nearly 38 years of distinguished service.From his days at RIMC and NDA to commanding troops in challenging terrains and serving as a UN Military Observer in Rwanda, General Sabharwal shares the untold stories of discipline, sacrifice, leadership, and the everyday struggles and triumphs of Army life.Connect With Kapeel Guptaor Click on the link: http://bit.ly/4jlql8s

DUSU चुनाव में ABVP ने तीन पद जीतकर बाज़ी मारी, एक पद पर जीती NSUI. संयुक्त राष्ट्र में भारत ने पाकिस्तान को दिया कड़ा जवाब, सुप्रीम कोर्ट ने दिल्ली दंगों के आरोपियों की जमानत सुनवाई टाली, मैसूर दशहरा मामले में बानू मुश्ताक के उद्घाटन पर रोक लगाने की याचिका खारिज, केरल हाईकोर्ट ने अरुंधति रॉय की नई किताब के कवर को लेकर केंद्र से मांगा जवाब, आसाराम के बेटे नारायण साईं को 5 दिन की जमानत, सैम पित्रोदा ने फिर दिया विवादित बयान, बिहार में NDA सम्मेलन में भारी हंगामा, अल्बानिया ने दुनिया की पहली AI मंत्री नियुक्त की, नेपाल के पूर्व पीएम ओली ने की नेपाल हिंसा की जांच की मांग और अमेरिका में लगातार गिर रही है डोनाल्ड ट्रंप की लोकप्रियता. सिर्फ 5 मिनट में सुनिए शाम 4 बजे तक की बड़ी ख़बरें.

On today's episode of the podcast I'm chatting with Bombae about her income, revenue and profit as a drag queen and former contestant on Canada's Drag Race. Bombae was on Season 3 of Canada's Drag Race. The audition process for Canada's Drag Race takes about three months, and it requires money. You submit a 20 minute video which includes multiple looks, a runway with several outfits, and a Q&A. The cost of this is also dependent on where you are, your current looks, and your skillsets. For example, do you need to rent a studio space to film, do you need to get your wigs redone, do you need to hire a video editor, etc. Bombae negotiated a free studio space, edited the video herself, and ended up spending about $500 to $800 on the video. Once you're selected, producers reach out and you get an NDA and other legal documents to sign. You don't get a list just yet of the runways for the season, they want to make sure everyone starts prepping for the show at the same time for fairness. When Bombae signed on for Season 3, Canada's Drag Race gave contestants $4,000 for the year. You weren't paid per episode, just the $4,000 to cover a certain date through when the NDA ends which covers the show, any press events, media appearances for the show, etc. For Bombae, this money went as soon as it came. She even called her bank to ask when it was coming, only to be told it had already been spent, it's not a lot of money for doing the show. Especially when you need looks for runways and mini challenges each episode. And these are all looks that need to be signed off on by the show's production team ahead of time to avoid copyright issues (unless you want to paid for licensing rights), meaning rushed production time for the looks once the mock-ups have been approved. Bombae had one look that cost about $8 or 9,000CAD but she didn't pay for it because the designers that made it offered to do it for free since it would be on Drag Race. Bombae's most expensive look she paid for was about $1200 to $1500CAD. A lot of it comes down to designer connections, where you buy from, what needs to be rushed, etc. Fashion Expenses: In total, Bombae estimates she spent $22 - 24000 CAD on looks for her season of Drag Race (compared to some queens who spent $45 to 55,000, and some who haven't even paid it all back yet). To break it down, it looks like: Heels: $2,000Wigs: $2,500Nails: $1,000Jewelry: $1,000Outfits: ~$16-18,000 Contestants were allowed to bring five bags with them to the show, they Bombae did try to get in a sixth, back-up bag that was denied. When it comes to Drag Race, we also need to consider opportunity cost. Bombae had a full time job at Shopify that she had to resign from because the show requires seven weeks of filming. Even now, Bombae shares that in-person drag has never paid her bills. But, she says that the money you spend on Drag Race you often make back within the year from sponsorships, shows, etc. but that isn't the case for everyone. Additional expenses: $2-3000 for going back to the studio to shoot the runway looks since you need a photographer and videographerRent - Bombae noted that she needed to pre-set money aside to cover the two months of rent for her apartment while she was gone since she no longer had her full-time job income. Once at the show, food and housing is covered. ROIWith brand sponsorships alone post-season, Bombae made $25,000 from viewing party appearances, merch, increases to booking fees and brand partnerships for social media with companies like Neutrogena, Absolut, and Trojan. Her booking fee for in-person events was $200 pre-Drag Race for a show with 2 to 3 numbers. After Drag Race, for corporate producers it would be $2,000 to $3,000. Now, 2-3 years after the season, Bombae is making that money with social media posts at a minimum, which out-pays any gig. Bombae was making a margin of $1-2 per merch item in her Shopify store, totaling about $4-5,000 over the last 3 years. Viewing parties came with lower ticket prices than usual because she wanted attendees to have more money for tips. And for appearances, ~$100 of the $700 would go to her management. Bombae also had a booth at Drag Con and shared that there are very few queens who break even. It costs about $8-9,000 to fly there from Canada, pay $500 - $700 for the booth, plus assistants to fly with you, hotels for multiple nights, merch to come in, booth to be decorated, plus food and everything that goes on during the event. She even said some queens had minimum spends on meet and greets/merch. To hear more from Bombae, including the lightning round of questions we mentioned in the episode, check out the episode I did with her on the Business of Drag podcast. Get in Touch with Our Guest Bombae Follow Bombae on Instagram: @bom.baeFollow Bombae on TikTok: @bom.bae

In episode 3 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast,  I'm joined by Elizabeth Kligge from the National Deer Association to talk about one of the most important challenges facing hunting today — recruiting and mentoring new hunters. Elizabeth dives into the Field to Fork program and how it's breaking down barriers, changing perceptions, and creating meaningful entry points into the hunting lifestyle. From showing how food can be the gateway for new hunters to highlighting the role of mentorship in building confidence, Elizabeth shares why this work is vital to the future of conservation. We also discuss the importance of building a supportive community around new hunters and how experiential learning builds skills while fostering lasting friendships. With the average age of hunters rising, the need to pass on our traditions has never been greater — and programs like Field to Fork are proving that the next generation is ready to step up when given the chance. Whether you're a seasoned hunter or just starting out, this episode is a powerful reminder that the future of hunting depends on all of us. So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up! www.antlerupoutdoors.com www.tethrdnation.com www.huntworthgear.com www.sportsmensempire.com https://deerassociation.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Deer Season 365 Podcast, NDA staff discuss the declining doe harvest trend, which regions and states are doing a good job of harvesting does, and which ones need to step it up. We also explore the importance and benefits of harvesting does, and why you should consider harvesting does early in the season when possible.  Featured Sponsor/Partners Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Important Links: NDA's Deer Reports NDA's National Deer Processor Map These 8 States Badly Need to Boost Their Deer Harvest Follow Brian Grossman on Instagram Follow Nick Pinizzotto on Instagram Follow Lindsay Thomas Jr. on Instagram Follow Kip Adams on Instagram Sign up for NDA's free weekly e-newsletter   Subscribe to the Podcast on: Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeartRadio   About the National Deer Association The National Deer Association (NDA) is a non-profit deer conservation group that works to ensure the future of wild deer, wildlife habitat and hunting. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast! Support NDA's mission by becoming a member today.

In episode 3 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast,  I'm joined by Elizabeth Kligge from the National Deer Association to talk about one of the most important challenges facing hunting today — recruiting and mentoring new hunters. Elizabeth dives into the Field to Fork program and how it's breaking down barriers, changing perceptions, and creating meaningful entry points into the hunting lifestyle. From showing how food can be the gateway for new hunters to highlighting the role of mentorship in building confidence, Elizabeth shares why this work is vital to the future of conservation.We also discuss the importance of building a supportive community around new hunters and how experiential learning builds skills while fostering lasting friendships. With the average age of hunters rising, the need to pass on our traditions has never been greater — and programs like Field to Fork are proving that the next generation is ready to step up when given the chance. Whether you're a seasoned hunter or just starting out, this episode is a powerful reminder that the future of hunting depends on all of us.So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up!www.antlerupoutdoors.comwww.tethrdnation.comwww.huntworthgear.comwww.sportsmensempire.comhttps://deerassociation.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Welcome back to another episode of the EUVC Podcast, where we gather Europe's venture family to share the stories, insights, and lessons that drive our ecosystem forward.Today we welcome Olav Ostin, Founder & Managing Partner at TempoCap, one of Europe's few dedicated secondary direct firms. With a nine-year track record, a 12-person team in London and Berlin (soon Paris), and multiple $500M+ exits, Olav is perfectly placed to explain why secondaries have gone from taboo to the hottest corner of venture.From buying whole portfolios from corporates to cherry-picking strip deals with VCs under LP pressure, TempoCap has built a reputation for navigating complex transactions and delivering liquidity in a market starved of exits. In this conversation, Olav shares what makes secondary directs different, how pricing really works, and why “who isn't selling?” is the right question in today's market.

¿Si fueras muy muy famoso, harías firmar a tus parejas sexuales un acuerdo de confidencialidad? Los 'NDA', los 'non disclosure agreements', están en tendencia entre las celebridades de Estados Unidos que quieren salvaguardar su privacidad en las relaciones sexoafectivas. Nos lo cuenta Miquel Echarri, periodista de 'El País' y autor del artículo "Sin firma no hay sexo: así funcionan los contratos de confidencialidad de los famosos para tener relaciones". 

#cuttheclutter The Supreme Court today put on hold three provisions of the Waqf Amendment Act 2025, but refused to stay the provision that abolishes the concept of 'waqf-by-user'. This episode of #CutTheClutter with Shekhar Gupta looks at the concept of Waqf, legislation governing waqf properties, the amendments brought in by the NDA govt in April 2025 & the arguments made in favour or and against the latest amendments. It also explains the amendments made to the law in 2013. First published on 4 April, 2025. ========================================================================== Link to the video by Waqf Foundation, UK: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ni5vCMuTH0U Watch Amit Shah's speech in Lok Sabha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cdW3oLbdFA Watch Kiren Rijiju's speech in Lok Sabha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFENVkEr-jQ Watch Owaisi's speech in Lok Sabha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91mX1NQm6iI Watch Manoj Jha's speech in Rajya Sabha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lZ7gFpHn7I Watch Kapil Sibal's speech in Rajya Sabha: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNUjZJS-1U

ROI Podcast—the business show that doubles as a comedy roast—returns with Law Smith and Eric Readinger riffing on TikTok, attention spans, and why horoscopes are basically astrology's version of fantasy football. This episode tackles: TikTok's addictive algorithm vs. China's “education-only” version. Why social media feels like narco-terrorism for your brain. The trader who used TikTok comments to turn $84K into $42M. Comedy, drag shows, group dances, and why dudes just don't vibe with them. A DIY college fantasy football league idea that could flip into billions. If you like your business podcasts with more laughs than LinkedIn posts, hit subscribe and join the world's #1 comedy-business podcast.   Eric Readinger  0:02   Okey, dokey, Law Smith  0:06   Whoo, yeah, ah, I wear, I wear my DMX goggles, yeah. I mean, this is, like, the why is that? DMX, no, but it's like a guy. This is Malibu's Most Wanted. That's what this guy sounds like. Eric Readinger  0:27   Yeah, maybe I don't know. He's not real. So can to be whatever you want him to be in your mind, Law Smith  0:32   so he is. So I'm right, yes, you're right. I'm gonna do this like a chick, yeah, see, I'm right, Eric Readinger  0:36   right, because I can't be proven wrong. I'm right. Law Smith  0:40   I was telling a friend, it made me underthink, like dudes, it's much, much better Eric Readinger  0:46   life. Uh huh, yeah, not everything you think is right. Law Smith  0:52   Well before this turns into no man from Eric Readinger  0:55   your children's club. Law Smith  0:58   You know, we can only call that shit out because we empathize with that play. Welcome to ROI podcast, because this is the number one comedy business podcast in the world. Sometimes we talk about emo stuff like Eric Readinger  1:12   that. Oh yeah. Are we gonna get into it? Nah. Law Smith  1:15   Oh, come on. No, no, no, it's too fresh. Too fresh, okay, fresh wounds. But I did. Eric Readinger  1:23   I'm gonna go ahead and just point out the echo Enos. That's my bad when we rip Law Smith  1:28   it up the floor in the studio, fix it in post. We got some tools. Well, hey, man, we should tell everybody, because I like giving resources out. I'm the Suze Orman of digital resources. That's what I want to be. What? Yeah, Adobe has a podcast Audio Enhancer. It'll take out background noise. It'll take out we have a little buzz I could hear right now that we had two episodes ago or an episode ago that it took outably your headphone. No, when I listened to it later. One of the previous episodes we Eric Readinger  2:02   did. Okay, this is definitely the kind of entertainment people want to hear. Well, maybe Law Smith  2:06   I'm just saying, if you have audio you need to clean up. You can, it's for podcasts, they say. But you could probably use it. If you had audio you needed to clean up, like in a loud room or a conference or, you know, any kind of meeting or something, you can right? But I just like the easy, you know, drag and drop it in, boom, come back out. Five minutes. Eric Readinger  2:24   You're good, yeah, AI is great, loyal part. Law Smith  2:29   But like it, it AI, the LLM, you know, those language learning models of like Chad, GBT and Claude and perplexity, large Eric Readinger  2:39   language, excuse me, what did I say? Learning? Used to Law Smith  2:45   whatever rewind I got. There's too many acronyms in my head or abbreviations, but it's one of those things where it it's a whole to do, like you have to know, how do you hold to do? What happens was. And I think everybody's having this issue, I kind of try to push through it, because I know that outcomes of what you want to get out of it, like, organize this document for me. Like, instead of me having to do it, that's great. That's like, I love that part of it, right? And that's intuitive. But there's some things that aren't intuitive on how to talk to it. Yeah, nicely, you can be mean to it. I don't know if it affects it. Eric Readinger  3:29   Well, not yet. You go on their list, their robot Law Smith  3:33   list, that's fair. So you know, I would just say I like the easy things like that. Like, for this podcast I'll use, there will be a word counter that sem rush, I think, has out there that's just its own website. You can drop a whole paragraph in. It'll pull the keywords for you if you want that are most important. It'll, you know, do stuff like that. I like those kind of little tools. And if we do anything on the show, if we're if we add any value besides our guests wisdom that come on the show, we show you how to be a tool. It's some resources to be a tool. Perfect Circle, exactly. Good album, yeah. You know, I don't know if I want to get into the fantasy football stuff. Eric Readinger  4:19   I know. I mean, I thought we were gonna talk about something else, I'll tease it. Law Smith  4:23   Well, we were, you and I off air. Were bitching about tick tock and how I don't think either of us really like Eric Readinger  4:30   it. I don't ever go Law Smith  4:32   into talk well, I don't, I don't like I don't like reels, I don't like show. I don't unless I'm like, going to Eric Readinger  4:39   look for something, right, right? It's not, we weren't talking just about Tiktok what? Law Smith  4:43   But I mean, Facebook reels, when I open those apps, it's like, abrasive with the video. You know? It's like, oh, sometimes the sound is like, way high, like an old TV commercial where the audio is like, doesn't that still happens, right? And it's so. Well, it's like, when I open up those apps and it goes right to video, it's like, oh, and I'm usually already listening to something, right? I've realized that's on me a little bit as far as like, I don't, I'm not people send me videos. I'm like, I'll get to that later. And I just never, yeah, I know it a lot of the time, but that's not because I didn't want to watch it. And I do like that. People will send me stuff. They go, Oh, they're thinking of you. They go, Oh, it's Eric Readinger  5:28   nice in general, to me, the interface is just a pain in the ass. Did you see the videos I sent you? Oh, you sent more than one. Oh, my God, gotta back out, because I go back in like, Law Smith  5:38   it's just stupid, and then I might be a comedy snob at the same time, exactly. And so that Eric Readinger  5:44   isn't funny. Isn't funny. Why are you sending me out? And then Law Smith  5:47   so I was kind of thinking about it, when we talked about it, like last week, just kind of shooting the shit. And I was like, Why does Tiktok kind of annoy the shit out of me? And it part of it. Once I found out that the Chinese algorithm for their people is wildly different than the one over here. I think that was my trigger point to go. I don't want to be on that. That. And at the same time, my mom, friends that are like our age in their 40s, they were telling me they're wasting two hours a night on there every night, and they're like, I'm so addicted. Like, when it was really popping. Like, you know, 2021 I don't know 22 we're not the first movers on this, but the laggard, older people, yeah, and so, like, I was like, I want that. I don't have enough time. I feel like, but you're Eric Readinger  6:41   acting like the Tick Tock algorithm is that much worse than any other social media algorithm. They're all doing the same thing. Law Smith  6:47   Well, I think they do they I think they do it the best it seems like. Because it seems like, yeah, maybe I don't know, man, just from general chatter I hear in my life. But also, when I'm listening, I listen to a dick loader comedy podcast all day, because, you know, marketing, marketing work is like, once you know how to do it, you can kind of be on autopilot a little bit. And so it's one of those things where the chatter is like, it is they have, they got it dialed in, they got you screwed in, buddy. And that's, that's, that's really, they're the best at Eric Readinger  7:27   it that. But it's like we're on neither of us are on it. To know if it's better or worse. I'm on it enough. I Oh, here we go. Now we get the truth. Law Smith  7:36   Well, I need to know, well, marketing, we're in marketing, so it's like, I need to know enough, right? And I need to know a user perspective of it, right? I can't. I usually just try to stick to, like, outside research, well, yeah. But I'm always like, I like, put it away, like, it's like, a Ebola virus or something, okay, you know, I'm like, Oh, I don't want, that's good. That's really, yeah, but I also like timely reference. So the thing was like, Yeah, it's like, the Black Plague. And so I think, like, when? But really when it was like, okay, the algorithm for China and the Chinese people definitely got some pro China stuff going on there, right? That's, that's just good marketing within the country, right? Educational outside of that, it's only educational stuff. Eric Readinger  8:29   Now here, what is the education about, Law Smith  8:31   like, science and like things of that nature, probably revisionist history, I'm sure. But I'm sure it has a whole glaze of propaganda over it, yeah, but at the same time they're doing that, but over here, they're like, let these dummies get dumber. That's what. That's my like, Eric Readinger  8:50   yeah, I don't think that's a wild No, that's not wild at all. I agree with you, and Law Smith  8:56   I compare it to Narco terrorism of like, you know, they say there's a lot of fentanyl that gives through Mexico from other countries to go up, up to the United States to kind of hurt, yeah, oh, no. This is, and that's happened on the Russian Eric Readinger  9:12   border without better than Narco terrorism, bro. Well, it's it. This is the Idiocracy. This is Lee, yeah, it's legal, right? Law Smith  9:19   And we and another bigger if we back, really back out, like the the future where everything takes over, like, you know, all agency is lost for people, right? And at 1984 it was about like, everything coming at people to take over society. We're willingly giving it away with our time data, you know? Eric Readinger  9:45   Yeah, we just keep letting them do whatever. You know, it's man. It sucks. So older I get, the more I'm like man they are. They are probably trying to control Law Smith  9:55   us. Look, it's not all bad. But as our buddy in the. Uh, all star guest, Dean Akers, who's, come on, he's, I'm surprised when we had breakfast the other day, he didn't bring it up. But because I think he's brought it up every breakfast we've had the last, you know, two years, he goes, You know what the new cigarettes are? And I'm like, what? And he's like, it's the bone. And I'm like, I know that one. I actually can answer right? When he is a teaching, he's a he's a teaching kind of mentor, yeah? Eric Readinger  10:28   So like, when Dean comes on here, and he'll ask us questions, and then we get all nervous and try to think of the right answer, and then one of us gets it right, and the other, he does the same thing at breakfast. And we the same way in real life. He's no different, yeah. We act the same way. Law Smith  10:41   So he keeps score, but he that's like, his favorite, you know, kind of angle, and he's right, because he, he was telling me people were wasting two hours as well. And I was like, whoa. I mean, he, he looks up Eric Readinger  10:54   that stuff. Yeah, that's not even now. That's, I thought that was obvious. Law Smith  10:58   Is it all bad? No, it it provides entertainment for people, right, right? You can get information from it. I just don't know how I feel, like you, like we talk about with news outlets, we'd be doing a lot more work to figure out if, if this, this thing on my feed, is actually true. But most people don't take that extra step, including myself, and a lot of the times just go, oh yeah, that's okay, right? Just move on, Eric Readinger  11:27   right? I think they annoying, most annoying dances I even get to that the dances, they're not as annoying. I don't think the food food, try this viral. Try this viral recipe. First of all, if that's obviously throwing a word viral into all the food, right? It's viral. It's viral. Whatever chocolates you know, like you, but the way they do the thing is, like, here, let me do a quick, sharp, snap, cut all, like, of the ingredients that you gotta, like, pause your phone. Like, they don't give you any measurements on what you're doing. Like, there no, it's just like you barely kind of got to guess what they're doing. And yet, there's still people are still trying Law Smith  12:06   to do it. I went on a mom date. I had to go on a date with my mom for lunch once a month. Law loves mom. I love my mama and and she was saying, I was I was saying the same thing. I was like, I don't like any recipe online that doesn't give you the ingredients first. I know that's because that's another bunch into it. And you're like, I don't have, oh, fuck man, I don't have basil. I don't have that kind of basil here. No. But I Eric Readinger  12:34   mean, whatever happened to the websites that just give you the recipe? Well, you'll have to write a fucking Law Smith  12:39   story about it. They're all trying to game it. So, like, they know that's going to be too boring, and people don't want to see that at the beginning. But when you really, actually want to use the information for recipe, and you don't know, I don't I, admittedly, I'm not. I don't know offhand how to bake or cook really well. I can grill, okay, right? But like, I look everything up and just follow whatever the directions are Eric Readinger  13:04   exactly. And when the directions start with, I remember when I was nine years old, it's like, what are you doing, right? I don't even, I don't even see them. Where are you taking me? Yeah, bro, it's a whole thing. Everybody's got to get their SEO in. Law Smith  13:17   So 25% of the users are 18 to 2425 34 is about 30% and our swing and Dick group is about 20 Okay, I just, I wanted to pull some stats up, because I was like, I was curious how really even spread. So it started in 2016 and it's become this. It's grown quicker, more more adopted users, more daily active users than any of them in such a short amount of time. That seems suspect to me, right? Because I was like, how did it grow like that? And I can't get any of the any of the AI apps to tell me Eric Readinger  14:00   really, I know, I think there's absolutely, well, whether it's an app or a person like that, get propped up and put in the spotlight and be made to be, you know, a household thing. It's like we were talking about like a guy like Sean Ryan. Yeah, who the fuck was Sean Ryan before he started getting every top tier podcast guest, yeah? Like, yes, I understand he Law Smith  14:27   was, you know, he was a journalist. He was, he Eric Readinger  14:31   was a counter Intel guy. Law Smith  14:33   Wait, whom? I'm thinking of, the hot wings guy, the hot ones guy. What's that guy's name? Who gives a shit? Now, I'm thinking of Sean Kelly, but, all right, who's Sean? Who Sean? Eric Readinger  14:48   What? Sean Ryan? Law Smith  14:49   There Is he cute. He's a bald headed man. Well, I mean, there's so many audiences we don't know about. There's so many like popular things. Like, when people come up to you, especially like comedy, you think you have a finger on the pulse. Like, you ever heard of this guy? He has a billion people that follow on me. Like, never heard of him? Eric Readinger  15:10   No. I mean, 4.8 3 million subscribers, right? Law Smith  15:14   I don't know if I even know this guy. Well, I thought you were talking about the hot ones. Guy off air. Eric Readinger  15:19   I mean, you just see he's got, you know, Law Smith  15:23   he's is, Eric Readinger  15:25   uh, sets. Let's see if I can imagine being able Law Smith  15:30   to build up. My God, how unprofessional. Whatever you don't do premium down, um, Eric Readinger  15:36   but anyways, I think there's guys that just like, get put into the spotlight to push a narrative, you know, like, just get certain people on there. Like, we're gonna give you a bunch of money for marketing because, like, somebody like, I just don't have no problem with the guy, Sean Ryan, he killed me in the sleep. But like, I don't necessarily think he's a great interviewer, or, like, has a fantastic recall of information, or anything, you know, Law Smith  16:07   well, that doesn't mean, I mean that it's entertainment at the end of the day. So it's Eric Readinger  16:13   not easy. Like, there's just a couple of them that are puzzling to me. Law Smith  16:17   He created and show ran several. Oh, that's, I think that's a different guy. That is absolutely a different guy, former Navy SEAL in CIA, contractor. So that's pretty interesting. Right off the Eric Readinger  16:29   bat, exactly what I'm saying, bro, and then he just jumps into the spotlight like Law Smith  16:34   that. No, okay, so there are, if you're talking about, like, podcasts, where there's, like, how did uh, these podcasts land on the top 10 list? It's like they have PR for that now, it's like you pay to get on that shit. Eric Readinger  16:50   Sure, I understand that. I'm just saying there's certain ones that I hear them and then just the way they are. It's very fishy. Law Smith  16:57   He, uh, became a CIA contractor enemies, so maybe had some cash to spend from that. Yeah. And then founded vigilance elite and 20 vitamin company to teach tactical skills to civilians law enforcement. So maybe money, some money there. If you have money, you can, you can, you can get that many people, even Eric Readinger  17:20   if you suck. Well, anybody who's been in the CIA, but not Law Smith  17:25   us, we're doing it lean on purpose, right? Yeah. So you got, or even it's for this is brought to you, for viewers like you. I don't have that the end of PBS stuff Eric Readinger  17:39   when they play best, get damp. Sure that's the right sound. Law Smith  17:43   Whenever where they go. This TV show, this program, is brought to you by and they give a bunch of, oh, I got it. I got the reference. But, and then they'd say viewers like you at the end, Eric Readinger  17:54   yeah, I know. Did you get it? Yeah, I still get it. Still get it. Law Smith  17:58   I tried to get back to tick tock. I tried to get the list of words that will demonetize you or give you, oh, let's read those aloud. I've wanted to, that was what I was gonna do. I was just gonna start reading them without with no segue into it. But I can't get them. I can't get a list of them. It's like, secret. Eric Readinger  18:17   Well, I know the kids. Oh, visit. Is it one? Well, you can't talk about that. Can't talk about unaliving yourself. Law Smith  18:25   And Tiktok, I think, is the most prude out of all of them. Like you can't say sex, you say SIGs with, like, eggs with an S on right? Yeah, or the one on YouTube, and Tiktok is on alive yourself instead Eric Readinger  18:42   of, did you hear me just say Law Smith  18:44   that? Oh, no. Okay, good. Eric Readinger  18:46   You see how this podcast goes. Everybody, I kind of do my own show over here. Law does his own show over there, and then we meet in the middle at the end. I'm trying, Law Smith  18:54   yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting. Well, I'm trying to read some notes. I think we were talking at the same time for a full minute at one point when today, just a couple minutes ago, very possible. So what I don't like about that is, like, self censorship of stuff. But you know, it's not all bad, I guess, because there's so many kids that have accounts and they're on there the dance dances have never like, unless it's like, a bunch of people are never like, Wow, what a cool dance. I think it's interesting. I think it's I respect like a dance group that does something pretty, you know, difficult, synchronized. I feel like that is a female thing. Big time is like, I got a dance. I got, I got it hit me, Eric Readinger  19:46   right, right? Law Smith  19:48   I know I misogynist lately, so I'm just gonna lean into before, yeah, no, I'm saying like that. Okay, so group dance. Yes, moves, I'm gonna go with horoscopes. In, like, astrology, these are all things I don't know a straight man that is into any of this in drag queen shows, yeah, well, people are like, it's hilarious, and you're like, a half second, maybe at best. Okay, I'll there one straight male that enjoys any of those three things. Eric Readinger  20:27   Okay, well, hold on, on the dragon shows, there is an element that can make it fun. That is, if you have another dude in your group who's very uncomfortable with the situation, sure, yeah. And we obviously let the drag queens know this, you know, you tell them, hey, focus in on him. Yeah, it's going to be funny forever. But I give you credit Law Smith  20:47   for you having the friend, bring in that friend, or making that friend go kind of right. I'm not, I don't know. It's just like, I mean, this is obviously, it's Eric Readinger  20:55   not like, I came up with the idea. I'm saying, like, if you're forced to go, you can make the best out of it, yeah, by making your friends uncomfortable, yeah, Law Smith  21:04   at the same time, like dudes, I'm trying to, I try to be open to that those kind of things when they're brought up, I try not to just shut it down kind of right away. Eric Readinger  21:15   You know, what kind of things, Law Smith  21:17   stuff that has zero interest to me. And I extrapolated out to I'm like, do I know any men that like actual men that like this stuff? Yeah, straight guys like myself, but yeah, Comparison is the thief of joy. So try to be open to it. I don't know everything, and there might be a funny drag show out there. Eric Readinger  21:42   I'm not, yeah, but again, I'm not trying to go to drag if you're forced. Law Smith  21:46   Well, I've been, I've been to a lot of drag places because of comedy, and it's like, I've seen it. You get to open with Eliza Manali, and you're going to close the share. Eric Readinger  21:58   I don't get it. I don't get how it's so much a thing. Law Smith  22:03   So what else did I have on here? Look, we don't even have a Tiktok account for this podcast, which is pathetic. So we'll this, hopefully this will help. Here's one thing I found that was interesting. There was an entrepreneur trader that followed all the comments on Tiktok to find trends before people on Wall Street could find out about them. So he would spend four hours every night analyzing comments to find out what people were talking about. Okay, and then he would find that trend, and he he put a trade in on that company before it really popped to like older Wall Street people, and he fucking crushed it. Guy's name is Chris Camillo from from Texas, and he turned $84,000 into 42 million by just finding trends before they really pop to the general public, the older public, you know, Eric Readinger  23:06   yep, but I see that he turned $84,000 into whatever. No, I mean, that's just like, what's his face? Law Smith  23:16   Here's here's a good example. So Hollywood insider predicted Margot Robbie last the Barbie movie, right? So he sees all the Tiktok comments about the Barbie movie buzz. He puts a bunch of trade on Mattel stock because it's gonna, it's gonna go through the roof, because it's gonna be a legit movie, right? And crushes it with that kind of thing. I think ozempic was another one, or one of the weight loss drugs. When people were starting to do that and talk Eric Readinger  23:47   about it, it doesn't seem like four hours a night is necessary for that. Law Smith  23:52   Well, obviously he's obsessive about it. But it was one of those things where, what did I go? It was obviously, like obsessive and by the way, slime was the other one that that's like genius. If he was reading comments, I doubt he did it four hours a night. By the way, this is Eric Readinger  24:09   what I'm saying. I have four hours. I didn't vet I didn't vet this whole thing, mental thing. Law Smith  24:13   Maybe I didn't vet it out. And I'm sure he figured out how to get a bot to sweep and look at all this stuff. But kids obsessing over slime, and then, so he bought, he bought a bunch of Elmer, elmer's Glue stock, like shit like that. That's pretty awesome. Why is that? Because that's what makes up slime. Of a lot of that, okay, Eric Readinger  24:37   but they're using it for glue. Law Smith  24:40   No, you put you Elmer glue is one of the ingredients in slime, Eric Readinger  24:44   but they're not making the glue. They're not taking Elmers glue and making slime out of Law Smith  24:49   it. A lot of kids were making at home, yeah, including my own kids, I see. And then I had to have a no slime rule at my house, Eric Readinger  24:58   yeah. No. The parents like the slime. I'm fuck that shit. Well, it just, it gets everywhere. It never comes off. Law Smith  25:04   Yeah, it's like, Slimer from Ghostbusters. It leaves, like, residue Eric Readinger  25:07   everywhere, snail trails. Yeah, yeah, fucking Law Smith  25:11   first. Oh, but have I brought this up Ghostbusters? I got a lot of people that don't like cops, but they love Ghostbusters. And I'm like, You're you're backing, you're back in enforcement Eric Readinger  25:23   there that don't like, like cops the TV show or cops in real life, Law Smith  25:26   like police in real life. They're like, they're like, defund the police people, and then they love Ghostbusters. I find that funny, Eric Readinger  25:34   right? That's a really fun thing for you to say to them. I Law Smith  25:37   never bring it up. Oh, okay, dude, I, I don't if it's a big calorie burner, and I don't have a lot of information or a hot take other than that one sentence, yeah, I Eric Readinger  25:48   am bringing it up. Yeah. I mean, defund the Ghostbusters. Law Smith  25:53   I'm just saying, Man, you know, they deserve fair trial too. Eric Readinger  25:57   The ghosts, I feel like they've already had their trial. Did they there? I mean, that's why Law Smith  26:02   they got hurt there. There's systemic ghostism. Eric Readinger  26:06   Oh, I see. So it's a problem with communities. Law Smith  26:10   Anyway, I thought that was interesting. Not all Tiktok is bad. You can use it the way you want. Everybody wants to be an influencer now that's under the age of 18. YouTube star or Tiktok star is like the number one. I know job they want when they get older. It's crazy, yep, all right, I didn't think it Eric Readinger  26:29   was any foresight to say we can't all be influencers. Hey, Eric. I didn't think we're gonna talk that much. I thought we're gonna have a short episode, I know, but I knew we would just gab like gals. I got, Law Smith  26:39   I got one more thing, and then we'll get out of here and it, I'm going to open source it to everybody. So if you made it, I'm going to Shawshank Redemption you, if you made it this far, why you come a little bit further? What? There is a great idea I don't think I'll be able to ever capitalize on. So as if, like my Cuban coffee drive through idea. Eric Readinger  27:02   You know, that's the one joke that I thought of when you're like, I'm gonna that's not my my bits on stage. What's the name of your Cuban drive through? What's the name that you give it? Oh, that's Law Smith  27:15   the fruit the food truck joke, Eric Readinger  27:18   whatever it is, the two cups. Yeah, my point is, is that came into my mind when you're like, I don't really do a lot of dirty stuff or shock Law Smith  27:27   value stuff, yeah? Well, it's tough to shock people. Number one, you have to go so extreme. That's, that's why it felt out of place. And then this is a conversation we had off air. Eric Readinger  27:38   It was, yeah, Law Smith  27:41   about a set I did, and I was like, Yeah, not really. Part of who shit it was, yeah, Eric Readinger  27:47   yeah, who's in, who's in the zone? Now, I don't know. I mean, it doesn't change. Holy Water, all right, we have, you don't get to just say it. Law Smith  27:56   I'm getting closer. I'm getting closer. Nailing that. Holy guacamole, Eric Readinger  28:01   gronca, moly, I Law Smith  28:02   know, but I Eric Readinger  28:03   messed up. Okay, fantasy football, is that what you want to talk about? Law Smith  28:06   Well, I've tried to figure out how to capitalize this league. I do. No one's figured out. Okay, so NFL, fantasy football, billion dollar business, like, if not 10 100. We know he knows sports betting going on with the Daily Fantasy leaves too well, and the college football is getting cooler about being less kind of they're they're becoming less restrictive about players rights and their naming rights and all that stuff paying them like they should have been the whole time. So I do a very nerdy college fantasy football league, but I'm always like, when I'm preparing for it, I have my draft tonight, and when I'm preparing for it, I'm always like, I can't believe no one's figured this out how to make college football fantasy because everyone goes well, there's too many teams, ah, but we do it a different way. We have eight managers, ah, and it's a top 25 League. You stick with the AP, top 25 and your draft really matters, because you have to skew it a bit. So if it's like Boise State's 24 and they play, you know, one of those opening games where they got to play something difficult, they can lose the value of that player goes down, because once they drop out of the top 25 you lose them, yeah? And you have to do a waiver, a weekly waiver. Eric Readinger  29:26   Life is somebody doing all this by hand? Yeah? Law Smith  29:30   Holy shit. I mean, not like writing it down? No, I know, but manually, I told you, this is the one where it's me, my buddy, Brendan, and I think everybody else is black dude that. So I'm like, you stupid kind of white guy in the group. I'm I was, like, the new guy, and that I was the new guy for like, 15 years in this league. I don't know these guys that well. So it's always like, we're doing the Zoom draft. Often. I'm like, sometimes I've been a little loosey goosey, you know, yeah, battle pops, it made some jokes that fall flat, and I'm like, Okay, well, I don't know these guys anyway, so, yeah, Eric Readinger  30:10   well, but you need me there with you. Law Smith  30:14   You can hop on tonight. No, Eric Readinger  30:17   God, I try to so racist jokes and fall flat, but Law Smith  30:21   I'm open to sourcing it. I've definitely done this on the show before and put it out there. It's one of those things where it's, like, I tried one year to really try to put effort into it for a while, Eric Readinger  30:30   and like, what are you hoping sourcing the Law Smith  30:33   idea of the game? So, like, you can be even hard to pitch this to a big like Yahoo or ESPN, or any FanDuel or something. Yeah, because you you'd have to go, I gotta pitch you something, but you gotta sign the longest NDA of all time that you can, like, it's like a movie script, while people don't read movie scripts just given to them, that has to go through their agency, because they'll get sued for, like, copying the idea. It's kind of like that, an IP of this idea of some of something that already exists, statistics that are out there. Eric Readinger  31:08   Yeah, I don't think it'd be that crazy. Law Smith  31:11   What sucks is, every year you have to do the manual research. Now there's sites you can pay for, subscription wise, that kind of do it. But like, Yeah, nobody cares about college. You can't. You can't really key in firsthand, all the parameters you need. So I've tried to, like, here's my strategy this year, because, oh, my God, I didn't read Phil Steele's phone book magazine. He does a thing on every team. It's like the craziest, like, Aspergers, he, like, he has, he it's like 180 pages. It's crazy. And he predict, he's the best predictor of, like, who's gonna win the Heisman, who's gonna be good this year kind of thing. So I tried to go, here's my here's what I was like, I gotta think outside the box, because last year I tried to do, I tried to use chat GBT didn't really work. This year I gave it a whirl. Still wasn't working for me. I'm going to look up the EA college football video game ratings, yeah, filter out all the non top 25 people, and then kind of go from that, Eric Readinger  32:20   yeah, that's just that, right? Like, I was like a thing when back in my fantasy football days, like, if you ever had somebody like, you're trying to make a tough decision, start this guy or start that guy, I'd go to FanDuel, who cost support. Oh, yeah, yeah. Gamblers know, Law Smith  32:36   right? The problem with the the Daily Fantasy ones was they don't have all the teams in there a lot of the time, so it's like, you're not getting a pure one to one sometimes, you know, if you're, if you're Jocelyn between, I've tried to do that for NFL. Eric Readinger  32:53   I'm like, Oh, you're saying, like some teams play at different times and, well, yeah, they don't. Law Smith  32:58   I don't know if they do it now. I haven't, I haven't really gone on those sites because I'm scared I'll, I'll gamble my life away. But it's one of those things where they do, like, here's the seven games early Sunday kind of package, but they would never have the whole Thursday to Monday, right? So it was hard to put it against it. I don't know, you know I'm saying anyway, I Eric Readinger  33:20   guess so. But the prices are all the same. Law Smith  33:23   The Price Is Right. Thanks for listening, and Eric Readinger  33:29   it's from the prices. Law Smith  33:31   And when you make billions off of this idea, you know, you package it, you're the listener. I'm talking to you, the listener. When you package this, just throw a couple shackles for for for funzies fucking nuts. Eric Readinger  33:58   Yo, I'm dumb. I.  

In episode 2 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast, I sit down with Nick Pinizzotto, CEO of the National Deer Association, for an in-depth look at the state of deer hunting in America. Nick shares why, thanks to increased education, resources, and dedicated hunters, deer hunting is in many ways better than ever. We talk about the powerful role citizen conservationists play in improving deer habitats, the unique and passionate culture of Pennsylvania hunters, and how every hunter can make a difference in shaping the future. Our conversation also dives into the biggest challenges, including the growing threat of chronic wasting disease and the need for hunters to engage beyond the hunt through conservation work, policy involvement, and local sportsman's clubs. Nick highlights the NDA's role in providing education and leadership in deer management, while reflecting on how personal hunting experiences evolve with time and knowledge. At the heart of it all, this episode is a reminder that every one of us can contribute to the future of deer and deer hunting—sometimes it just starts with doing one more thing. So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up! www.antlerupoutdoors.com www.tethrdnation.com www.huntworthgear.com  www.sportsmensempire.com  https://deerassociation.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In episode 2 of the Inside the NDA on the Antler Up Podcast, I sit down with Nick Pinizzotto, CEO of the National Deer Association, for an in-depth look at the state of deer hunting in America. Nick shares why, thanks to increased education, resources, and dedicated hunters, deer hunting is in many ways better than ever. We talk about the powerful role citizen conservationists play in improving deer habitats, the unique and passionate culture of Pennsylvania hunters, and how every hunter can make a difference in shaping the future.Our conversation also dives into the biggest challenges, including the growing threat of chronic wasting disease and the need for hunters to engage beyond the hunt through conservation work, policy involvement, and local sportsman's clubs. Nick highlights the NDA's role in providing education and leadership in deer management, while reflecting on how personal hunting experiences evolve with time and knowledge. At the heart of it all, this episode is a reminder that every one of us can contribute to the future of deer and deer hunting—sometimes it just starts with doing one more thing.So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up!www.antlerupoutdoors.comwww.tethrdnation.comwww.huntworthgear.comwww.sportsmensempire.comhttps://deerassociation.com/

In this very first Inside the NDA episode, Jeremy sits down with Lindsay Thomas Jr., Chief Communications Officer for the National Deer Association, for an eye-opening discussion on how deer see, smell, and survive in the wild. Lindsay breaks down fascinating insights into deer vision—how their broader peripheral view, ability to see in low light, and rapid information processing give them a huge advantage over hunters. They also dive into why scent control and cover matter more than just camo, and how understanding these details can elevate your time in the woods. Beyond the science, this episode highlights why the NDA's mission matters now more than ever. Jeremy and Lindsay discuss deer behavior patterns, how hunters can prepare both physically and mentally for success, and the importance of practicing in the same gear you'll hunt in. Lindsay also shares how NDA programs like Field to Fork and local chapters are strengthening the hunting community and creating opportunities for mentorship, recruitment, and education. Whether you're chasing whitetails this fall or looking to give back to the next generation of hunters, this conversation is packed with insights to make you sharper and more connected in the field. So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up! www.antlerupoutdoors.com www.tethrdnation.com www.huntworthgear.com  www.sportsmensempire.com  https://thebowtiquellc.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode of the Deer Season 365 Podcast, several NDA staff members share their deer season preparation routines, as well as their plans and goals for the 2025-2026 deer season. Featured Sponsor/Partners Tethrd Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Important Links: Follow Brian Grossman on Instagram Follow Nick Pinizzotto on Instagram Sign up for NDA's free weekly e-newsletter   Subscribe to the Podcast on: Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeartRadio   About the National Deer Association The National Deer Association (NDA) is a non-profit deer conservation group that works to ensure the future of wild deer, wildlife habitat and hunting. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast! Support NDA's mission by becoming a member today.

In this very first Inside the NDA episode, Jeremy sits down with Lindsay Thomas Jr., Chief Communications Officer for the National Deer Association, for an eye-opening discussion on how deer see, smell, and survive in the wild. Lindsay breaks down fascinating insights into deer vision—how their broader peripheral view, ability to see in low light, and rapid information processing give them a huge advantage over hunters. They also dive into why scent control and cover matter more than just camo, and how understanding these details can elevate your time in the woods.Beyond the science, this episode highlights why the NDA's mission matters now more than ever. Jeremy and Lindsay discuss deer behavior patterns, how hunters can prepare both physically and mentally for success, and the importance of practicing in the same gear you'll hunt in. Lindsay also shares how NDA programs like Field to Fork and local chapters are strengthening the hunting community and creating opportunities for mentorship, recruitment, and education. Whether you're chasing whitetails this fall or looking to give back to the next generation of hunters, this conversation is packed with insights to make you sharper and more connected in the field.So, grab your gear, sit back, and join us on this episode as we Antler Up!www.antlerupoutdoors.comwww.tethrdnation.comwww.huntworthgear.comwww.sportsmensempire.comhttps://thebowtiquellc.com/

"It's by far the most important race we've been in in the world." That's what Applied Digital CEO Wes Cummins told us on this episode of Plain Talk. "In my opinion, there's two countries that are racing forward to advance AI, to reach super intelligence, to reach AGI [artificial general intelligence], and it's the United States and it's China." Cummins says he wants the United States to win that race, which is why they're investing heavily in data center infrastructure across the country, including billions of dollars' worth of projects in North Dakota. But that push is not without some local headwinds. Opposition to one of their proposed data centers in Harwood, North Dakota, has manifested itself in some shouty public meetings, if not necessarily pushback from the larger public. One bone of contention has been nondisclosure agreements that his company had some local officials, including elected leaders, sign ahead of the Harwood project. Many (including this humble correspondent) have been critical of that move, but Cummins said it's a reality given the nature of their business as a publicly-traded company. "What I will say is there is no purpose to keep information away from the public that they need to have to be informed to know what's going on," he said. "These are typically things that we do prior to us launching a project or doing a project." There are two purposes of an NDA in this context. One is to protect the company's competitive information, since local officials get to tour facilities and learn details about building plans, but the other is to ensure that no illegal trading schemes emerge from the information shared. "So say we have the mayor and he's not steeped in public company rules and regulations, and he tells a couple of his friends or people that work around it or people that he's close with that this big new project could be coming," Cummins said, describing one possible scenarios. "And then they go and find our company, and they say, 'You know what? This is interesting. Maybe I'll buy their stock.' And then you have this issue of potentially violations in insider trading laws." Cummins defended the NDAs by saying they're part of promoting a clean project. "A lot of people who want to yell about, you know, that they're bought and paid for or were trying to hide something would be even happier if one of these guys got in trouble for a simple misstep on something that they didn't know about." And what about the claims that these power-hungry data centers will drive up power prices for North Dakotans? Cummins said that it won't be a problem, because North Dakota already produces far more power than it uses. "When you're a net power exporter and you start using power inside of your state, you just export less power, and so the power is already abundant." He said that at the company's facility in Ellendale, they're actually saving rate payers money, because their facility is allowing utilities to use capacity they were paying for but not utilizing. "With us adding 200 megawatts of load in Ellendale for the last 2 years, we have saved the MDU ratepayers 3.5 million in 2023 that was dispersed back to the ratepayers, and 5.7 million, I believe, in 2024. So we have two years of record of utilizing the infrastructure that's there. The utility makes more money and then shares that money back with its customers." Cummins said he wasn't sure if that would be the case with the Harwood facility, but he's not concerned about his company's power consumption driving up rates. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It's super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you're from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

"It's by far the most important race we've been in in the world." That's what Applied Digital CEO Wes Cummins told us on this episode of Plain Talk. "In my opinion, there's two countries that are racing forward to advance AI, to reach super intelligence, to reach AGI [artificial general intelligence], and it's the United States and it's China." Cummins says he wants the United States to win that race, which is why they're investing heavily in data center infrastructure across the country, including billions of dollars' worth of projects in North Dakota. But that push is not without some local headwinds. Opposition to one of their proposed data centers in Harwood, North Dakota, has manifested itself in some shouty public meetings, if not necessarily pushback from the larger public. One bone of contention has been nondisclosure agreements that his company had some local officials, including elected leaders, sign ahead of the Harwood project. Many (including this humble correspondent) have been critical of that move, but Cummins said it's a reality given the nature of their business as a publicly-traded company. "What I will say is there is no purpose to keep information away from the public that they need to have to be informed to know what's going on," he said. "These are typically things that we do prior to us launching a project or doing a project." There are two purposes of an NDA in this context. One is to protect the company's competitive information, since local officials get to tour facilities and learn details about building plans, but the other is to ensure that no illegal trading schemes emerge from the information shared. "So say we have the mayor and he's not steeped in public company rules and regulations, and he tells a couple of his friends or people that work around it or people that he's close with that this big new project could be coming," Cummins said, describing one possible scenarios. "And then they go and find our company, and they say, 'You know what? This is interesting. Maybe I'll buy their stock.' And then you have this issue of potentially violations in insider trading laws." Cummins defended the NDAs by saying they're part of promoting a clean project. "A lot of people who want to yell about, you know, that they're bought and paid for or were trying to hide something would be even happier if one of these guys got in trouble for a simple misstep on something that they didn't know about." And what about the claims that these power-hungry data centers will drive up power prices for North Dakotans? Cummins said that it won't be a problem, because North Dakota already produces far more power than it uses. "When you're a net power exporter and you start using power inside of your state, you just export less power, and so the power is already abundant." He said that at the company's facility in Ellendale, they're actually saving rate payers money, because their facility is allowing utilities to use capacity they were paying for but not utilizing. "With us adding 200 megawatts of load in Ellendale for the last 2 years, we have saved the MDU ratepayers 3.5 million in 2023 that was dispersed back to the ratepayers, and 5.7 million, I believe, in 2024. So we have two years of record of utilizing the infrastructure that's there. The utility makes more money and then shares that money back with its customers." Cummins said he wasn't sure if that would be the case with the Harwood facility, but he's not concerned about his company's power consumption driving up rates. If you want to participate in Plain Talk, just give us a call or text at 701-587-3141. It's super easy — leave your message, tell us your name and where you're from, and we might feature it on an upcoming episode. To subscribe to Plain Talk, search for the show wherever you get your podcasts or use one of the links below. Apple Podcasts | Spotify | YouTube | Pocket Casts | Episode Archive

We're unapologetically full of Ariana and Andy's hosting duo, relationship break ups, Huda's fake NDA, Taylor's weird apology, Ace and Chelley's timeline, Austin's one brain cell, America's votes revealed, Huda's month of self reflection, the abhorrent racism Chelley and Olandria received, and so many unseen moments.Check us out on Instagram, TikTok and YouTube @also_podcast. Join our patreon for exclusive content and early episode releases: patreon.com/alsopodcastBrowse our merch: also-podcast.myspreadshop.com/

Mel and Steve have been together for a little over three months and while things have been great, two weeks ago Mel went out for a girls night and bumped into Steve's ex. Mel tells us that Steve's ex pulled her aside and warned her about Steve's location because he often uses his multiple devices to lie about being home when he really isn't. At the same time, Mel went through Steve's phone and saw that Steve had written an NDA for his friend's bachelor party that he is the Best Man for and made everyone sign that has her worried about their relationship.   We call Steve pretending to be the entertainment group booked for Steve's friend's bachelor party asking for any requests and see what Steve actually has planned for the weekend. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses! 

Mel and Steve have been together for a little over three months and while things have been great, two weeks ago Mel went out for a girls night and bumped into Steve's ex. Mel tells us that Steve's ex pulled her aside and warned her about Steve's location because he often uses his multiple devices to lie about being home when he really isn't. At the same time, Mel went through Steve's phone and saw that Steve had written an NDA for his friend's bachelor party that he is the Best Man for and made everyone sign that has her worried about their relationship.   We call Steve pretending to be the entertainment group booked for Steve's friend's bachelor party asking for any requests and see what Steve actually has planned for the weekend. Find out what's really going on in this week's War Of The Roses! 

In this episode of the Deer Season 365 Podcast, we talk with Mike Yoder of Drone Deer Recovery all about the use of thermal-imaging drones to recover deer. Mike and I dive into the topic from both the perspective of a hunter who may want to hire a drone operator to locate their deer, as well as from the perspective of someone interested in starting their own drone deer recovery business. Mike was one of the pioneers of drone deer recovery and a wealth of knowledge on the subject, so be sure to listen in to our discussion!   Featured Sponsor/Partners Smith & Wesson Bass Pro Shops & Cabela's Important Links: Drone Deer Recovery website Drone Deer Recover YouTube channel Drone Deer Recovery Podcast Follow Brian Grossman on Instagram Follow Nick Pinizzotto on Instagram Sign up for NDA's free weekly e-newsletter   Subscribe to the Podcast on: Apple Podcasts Spotify iHeartRadio   About the National Deer Association The National Deer Association (NDA) is a non-profit deer conservation group that works to ensure the future of wild deer, wildlife habitat and hunting. Thank you for subscribing to our podcast! Support NDA's mission by becoming a member today.

Matt Ross is a fellow New Yorker AND the Senior Director of Conservation for the National Deer Association. Join Cliff and Devian as they "selfishly" question Matt on scenarios, tips, and deer hunting tactics that will directly affect their fall deer season.   For membership information to the National Deer Association, visit:  New NDA Memberships | National Deer Association Follow Matt and the NDA on Instagram: Matt Ross, National Deer Association, Long Island chapter of the NDA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - DON'T FORGET: For a 15% discount on SKRE Gear, use code NYC - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Follow the NYC Bowhunting Podcast, Cliff, and Devian on Instagram: NYCBP: @nycbowhuntingpod Cliff: @urbanarcherynyc Devian: @citykidbushcraft  

In this powerful recap, Lesley and Brad reflect on Joy Hoover's inspiring interview about redefining women's safety through community and innovation. They highlight how Joy is working to change harmful narratives around victim shaming and help people recognize red flags before it's too late. From revolutionary tools for drink spiking prevention to bold leadership in gender-based violence advocacy, this episode is a call to rethink how we can band and protect one another.If you have any questions about this episode or want to get some of the resources we mentioned, head over to LesleyLogan.co/podcast https://lesleylogan.co/podcast/. If you have any comments or questions about the Be It pod shoot us a message at beit@lesleylogan.co mailto:beit@lesleylogan.co. And as always, if you're enjoying the show please share it with someone who you think would enjoy it as well. It is your continued support that will help us continue to help others. Thank you so much! 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And I think like if we can all think about it differently, we can actually start to spot things and support people instead of going well, how did that happen to them? Lesley Logan 0:16  Welcome to the Be It Till You See It podcast where we talk about taking messy action, knowing that perfect is boring. I'm Lesley Logan, Pilates instructor and fitness business coach. I've trained thousands of people around the world and the number one thing I see stopping people from achieving anything is self-doubt. My friends, action brings clarity and it's the antidote to fear. Each week, my guest will bring bold, executable, intrinsic and targeted steps that you can use to put yourself first and Be It Till You See It. It's a practice, not a perfect. Let's get started.Lesley Logan 0:55  Welcome back to the Be It Till You See It interview recap where my co-host in life, Brad, and I are going to dig into the groundbreaking convo I had with Joy Hoover in our last episode. If you haven't yet listened to that interview, feel free to pause this now and go listen to that one, or listen to this one and then listen to that one. You can do whatever order you want, but it's one you have to listen to. Brad Crowell 0:58  Whatever you want. Lesley Logan 1:00  I mean, I say it on all episodes, you got to go listen to it because, you know, we can only cover so much of what the guest said, but it's also like quite a unique, amazing thing. So Today is August 14th 2025 and it's got two things for you. I'm sure Brad want me to choose. I'm not going to do it. National, it's National Financial Awareness Day. So how much would you like to bet that most people don't know August 14th is National Financial Awareness Day?Brad Crowell 1:43  Well, it's about betting. They were being cute. I think it's cute. Lesley Logan 1:46  They still managed to say the date and the name. Brad Crowell 1:49  100% of the time they answer the question, they re-ask the question when answering the question always.Lesley Logan 1:54  It's more important than you think. And plus, what's more fun than financial independence?Brad Crowell 1:58  What is more fun? Yay. Skippy.Lesley Logan 2:01  Hey, you know what? Financial independence is literally the thing that, if you have you can do anything you want. You can leave any job, shitty relationship, shitty situation. Financial independence is like the thing. It's more, I think it's more important than just like, the ability to walk, you need to have financial independence.Brad Crowell 2:19  It's funny because it sounds silly, but at the same time, it's not something that anyone ever talks about. Like, no one, like, you're not taught this stuff at school. Right?Lesley Logan 2:32  Yeah, no, you're, no. I think I was taught to balance a checkbook, as if that did anything for me. But I like, I think about Tia Leving's episode. Brad Crowell 2:39  I have to say I was thinking about that.Lesley Logan 2:41  And I think about.Brad Crowell 2:42  If y'all don't remember, she was stuck in an abusive relationship where she had no control over the finances, and she couldn't leave, even though it was abusive, because if she did, she. Lesley Logan 2:52  Would lose her kids. Brad Crowell 2:54  She would lose her kids because she didn't have any money to support her kids. Lesley Logan 2:56  Yeah, this is where, like, a lot of people were like, oh, why don't they just leave? It goes back to, like, the Diddy stuff, oh they could have just left. No. When they're controlling your career, when they're controlling how where you live, and they're paying your rent and all these things, even if you think, oh, well, they did this. It was, there's, there's control, there's not financial independence, and if we have to teach that, even if the person's not abusive, because there's plenty of people who are partners, who are parents, who are bosses, who are non-abusive. Brad Crowell 3:03  Sure. Lesley Logan 3:05  But everybody deserves to have financial independence and financial awareness information so that they can make sure they're making the right decisions for themselves. And then they have options. You always have choices. Okay, back to why they want to educate us. So, first off, think about that great feeling you get when you don't have the looming spin specter of debt hanging over you. Also sound financial decisions can really make a difference down the road. Remember, retirement is a time to take all those vacations you couldn't when working the daily grind. I have so many problems with this day already, because you shouldn't wait for a retirement to take those vacations and don't let people tell you, debt is a big (inaudible).Brad Crowell 4:01  I was going to say the same thing, like, sure, debt can be looming, especially if it's like credit card debt that's keeping you bound. Lesley Logan 4:08  Yes, because they control you. Brad Crowell 4:09  Well, it's not just that. It's like, it's it's a it's oppressive to to moving forward because you're just paying the interest. But at the same time, like, I think my relationship with that changed when I became a business owner, because, you, you it's part of businesses also, you know, you can also have debt, and you can manage that debt without it destroying everything, so.Lesley Logan 4:30  And also, a good credit score is because you can show that you can manage debt. That's what it is. It's not being debt-free. It's managing debt. Which is which, yeah, okay, so there was good intentions with this day, anyways. Because money is important to our overall peace of mind, Financial Awareness Day is a great time to review where you are now and where you're going financially. Don't let bad financial decisions ruin the best years of your life.Brad Crowell 4:54  Okay, so we're just gonna stop reading this. But I think the points are still good. You know? I think, I think one thing that most, I'll tell you what I didn't do. I never reviewed my financial position. I didn't even know what that meant, right? I just knew that I needed to make enough money to get to the end of the month so that I could do it again, right? I never, like, stepped back and like was, was trying to look at like, oh, I have a car, the value of the car. Oh, I have a house, the value of the house, or, you know, whatever, like my, I have a savings account, or I have been putting money in my savings account. Do I have a plan? Never had a plan before, you know, the last couple of years and and now you can it's easy to get sidetracked from your plan. It's very easy to get sidetracked from your plan, unless you put things on an automated like your your money comes in, and then automatically, things happen at the end of the month. It's easy to forget to slide, you know, money over into your retirement fund, or whatever it might be, and you know, so what what you can do, which I think is really helpful, is to throw once a month review, you know, our just take a look at all the numbers. Take a look at it. Like, open up the credit card statement online, open up the bank account online, take a look at that. Like, log into your Social Security account. How weird is that to even say, does anybody do that? I do that. Okay. Lesley Logan 6:12  Yeah, I do it. I just don't I don't know, at this moment in time we're recording, I doubt we're gonna see any of it, but you should, I agree with you. Like, it's important to be aware of where all your accounts are, what's in all of them. Don't put your, don't be an ostrich. And also, like, please don't let the money stories of your parents or like, even your college years dictate like, what you think of yourself when it comes to money, because that attitude is not going to help you be it till you see it with financial success. Listen to our episode with wealth with Tess. That is the episode I want you to listen to if this day resonates with you. Okay, Love Your Bookshop Day. Of course, we talk about this becauseBrad Crowell 6:50  Tess's episode was 352. Lesley Logan 6:52  Wow. Brad Crowell 6:53  352Lesley Logan 6:54  So, Love Your Bookshop Day is celebrated every year, also on August 14th. It is a holiday that was founded by the Australian Booksellers Association. The aim is to appreciate bookshops around the country and highlight all the things that make local bookshops beneficial with an appreciation for books and encourages more people to read. Bookshops exist to serve the knowledge to the public, and that is a very important job. The more equipped bookshops are, the better quality of knowledge people can access to in a time when books are being ordered online, the local brick and mortar bookshop needs all the support it can get. You guys, they don't sponsor the show, but bookshop.org think that it's called, if you order your books through them, they send the money to support a local bookshop near you, and that if you want to have that online ease, but also support a local bookshop. I also like it's called a bookshop. So it's a bookstore. Anyways, go read a book. Go read, go read a book that's gonna, like, inspire you. Maybe I'll add a book (inaudible). Brad Crowell 7:47  Go sit in a bookshop, coffee shop. Lesley Logan 7:52  Oh my gosh. Have you been to the Writer's Block, babe? Brad Crowell 7:55  No, in Vegas? Lesley Logan 7:56  Yeah. Brad Crowell 7:56  Have not.Lesley Logan 7:57  Oh, they got a smoothie bar, coffee, a cat walk around. Don't take Bayon. Cats walking around the coffee shop. Maybe they have birds. I think it's a bird sanctuary, not cat sanctuary. Anyways, it is the coolest bookshop. And now listen to me, I'm gonna call it a bookshop my Australian accent, it's the coolest bookstore I've been to in a long time. But there's some other ones, and I actually want to start looking at some really cool bookstores when we start doing tours. Brad Crowell 8:19  It's a bird sanctuary. Lesley Logan 8:19  Yeah, bird sanctuary. You know how we like, we do vintage shops a lot. I think I want to switch that to, like, really cool bookstores, because there's some really cool bookstores out there. Okay, speaking of being on the road, we are on the road for a few more days, and so you can go to OPC.me/tour because I think you can get, if there's anything left, you can get to Idaho, Salt Lake or Las Vegas OPC.me/tour. Our winter tour will be announced in the fall, so stick around for that. Then we're home for a couple of weeks, and then, babe, we're headed to, where are we headed, in September, we're headed to the U.K. Brad Crowell 8:52  Yes, we're gonna, we're really fired up to be back to the U.K. and we actually have two stops we're doing this time. We're gonna be in Leeds and in Essex. So come join us. If you are in London. We actually set it up where you could be on a day pass with us.Lesley Logan 9:03  I think there's even all our workshops. So if you are someone who just wants to do one workshop now.Brad Crowell 9:07  Yeah, it might be. Go, go check it out. Go to opc.me/uk. We're going to be covering, it's mostly Pilates stuff. And then there's a couple of workshops. The workshops are skewed toward business, but they're not really business. It's like managing your calendar, that's managing, you know, how do you, how do you make an ideal schedule for yourself? And that, of course, can be used for business, but it's also you don't have to run a business to, you know, pull some benefits from that, and then, yeah, anyway, we can't wait to be back. It's gonna be awesome. In October, we're heading to Chicago. Lesley Logan 9:36  Yeah, there's Balanced Bodies, P.O.T. Chicago. And at the time of this record as this dropping, you can still get the early bird 10% off if there's any spots left. I do know that.Brad Crowell 9:46  Do you have a link for that? Lesley Logan 9:47  balancedbodypilates.com just like a P.O.T. Chicago and it comes up, like it kind of just comes up. But anyways, yeah, of course, it's a long link. However, when they emailed me last week, it was 75% sold out. So just so you know, don't wait on that. Then we're gonna go from Chicago to Cambodia.Brad Crowell 10:07  Directly, literally. Don't even go home. We just go straight through San Francisco to Cambodia. That's gonna be amazing. And basically, you know, we got, we still got room, and there's still time. It's only August. We're not going till October, right, so.Lesley Logan 10:20  Oh I know, people signed up for last one in December, we went. Brad Crowell 10:24  Six weeks ahead of time. Yeah. We had someone sign up six weeks ahead of time so. Lesley Logan 10:29  We had someone signed up two weeks ahead of time. Brad Crowell 10:29  Oh, it was only two. Lesley Logan 10:29  The last October, my mom's. Brad Crowell 10:31  Yeah, yeah, it was only two. Okay, yeah. So anyway, yeah, so it's possible there's still plenty of room come join us. It's gonna be amazing. And then, like, randomly, on the way home from Cambodia we're gonna be in Singapore.Lesley Logan 10:43  Yeah. So we're gonna see the Botanical Gardens, and we're working on teaching a gig. So you know, Singapore, Hi, we're coming. Brad Crowell 10:49  Yeah, we're coming. Lesley Logan 10:50  And then, of course, December is winter tour. We should be announcing all of that in the fall, so come October. But if you want to host with us, reach out. The team will help you fill out the forms. And if we're on the path this year, yay. And if we're not, we'll save you for another time. But don't, don't wait.Brad Crowell 11:06  Yeah that's going to be awesome. Before we get into this really interesting convo with Joy Hoover, also, like, scary-a-little-bit convo with Joy Hoover. From the statistics were like, mind blowing. I was like, What the hell. But before we get there, we got a question from Corinne_ca11 (aka Cori) from IG. She asks, hey, how many days a week do you recommend weight lifting in addition to your Pilates practice?Lesley Logan 11:34  Yeah, so here's okay. Brad Crowell 11:35  Great question. Lesley Logan 11:36  Great question. Personally, I lift weights three to four days a week and I do Pilates four to five days a week. Now, is that a scientific thing that you should be doing? I don't know. It's really works for my schedule. I particularly like an extra day of Pilates compared to my weight training, because I do feel like it keeps everything ready for the next one. Like weight training always makes my body feel a little bit heavy. I mean, of course, I feel great in it, and there's no knocks. Like, I believe every woman does need to lift some weights, but my body feels heavy. And so Pilates kind of like opens everything back up and readies it for the next time. And that's why I like it. But I will say, depending on what your goals are, you definitely, from what I've heard or what I've read, everyone should be lifting weights, two, three days a week, and then I believe Pilates should be done three to four days a week. And that doesn't mean hour long sessions, doesn't have to be, the amount of minutes is not as important as the consistency and the quality of the movement. So three quality reps over 10 is always better than it comes to Pilates, and that's just my opinion, but I particularly really like it, and I will we're actually we taught in Santa Barbara a workshop on mat Pilates for strength training, people who strength train. And I actually taught everyone there how to do a 20, 15-minute workout with 20 Pilates mat exercises that will benefit anyone who lifts weights. And you can literally do it after you lift all your weights at the gym, or you could do it before, or you could do it on your off days, or you could do it under your zone two as a way to, kind of like, stretch and move everything around. It's 15 minutes full body workout. It will absolutely improve your form and the results you're getting with your strength training. You can actually take a version of that workshop at fullbodyin15.com. Brad Crowell 13:17  Yeah, fullbodyin15.com love that, by the way, that's free. Lesley Logan 13:21  It's free. Brad Crowell 13:22  And it'll help you learn the five major spine shapes in Pilates and create that 15-minute workout. So definitely dig in there. Great question, Cori, thanks for that. If you have a question, text us at 310-905-5534 or because who can remember those phone numbers? Go to beitpod.com/questions beitpod.com/questions. Stick around. We'll be right back. We're gonna dig into this convo with Joy Hoover. Brad Crowell 13:49  Okay, now let's talk about Joy Hoover, who's our neighbor, by the way, temporarily, which is kind of cool. After experiencing a devastating family tragedy in 2013, Joy Hoover dedicated herself for 15 years in Vegas to improving women's safety, anti-trafficking and fighting gender-based violence. She founded the nonprofit Cupcake Girls, which y'all probably know because we support them with Profitable Pilates. And she later launched Esōes Cosmetics, pronounced SOS. It's spelled E-S-O-E-S the world's first patented smart lipstick featuring built-in drink testing strips and a panic button that is linked to a safety app. Her work has supported over 10,000 survivors and earned multiple awards and national media recognition. And it's quite, it's quite, quite clever. Lesley Logan 14:40  You know what's funny is we just recapped David Corbin, and you met Joy at the same exact event. Brad Crowell 14:46  David. Lesley Logan 14:48  Is that the same we just interviewed? Brad Crowell 14:50  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Lesley Logan 14:51  You met them both at the same event.Brad Crowell 14:52  So yes, David, I did. I actually had lunch with Joy, or I sat at a table withJoy. Yeah, it was lunch. And then David was the after the event was over. You're right. What a great event that was.Lesley Logan 15:03  Yeah. And it's funny, because I didn't interview them near each other, but they're coming out next to each other, so that's hilarious. So we talked. I mean, first, I just want to say that, like, if you haven't yet listened to this episode and you there is, like, violent talk in there. There are some topics that could be triggering or activating in some people. So do take caution when you listen to it, but I do think it's really important to listen to because, I wanna highlight a couple parts of her story that have nothing to do. Well, they have a lot to do with all the things, but like, you can see yourself in those stories. So when she and her husband had their first kid, his dad killed his mom, and they just had a baby. And so can you imagine being new parents and then, like, dealing with, like, the, not just the loss of parent, but like.Brad Crowell 15:49  I think she said that their daughter was, like, eight days old and they had to fly across the country to handle that. Lesley Logan 15:51  I mean, of course, so tragic, but for them to figure out, for them to not let that define them, but instead allow them to create a, carve a path that could help them, use their story to support other people with different stories in them is really, really cool. And I think a lot of times we have these tragic things happen in our lives, and they become the story we tell ourselves that's held us back. Oh, I've lost seven people in my life. Oh, this happened, and I don't want to discount those things. Those are especially like, when you have abuse like that, ends in that way it is. It's devastating. But, I do think that, like. Brad Crowell 16:27  She said it was happening for like, 40 years. Lesley Logan 16:30  Yeah, and that's like, that's really hard to grow up around, to experience, to like, to have relationships and other things. And so I just want to say, like, I think that their their story and other people's stories that are similar, where they persevered through that. It kind of it, it changed who they are as parents and also how they raise their children, but also how they see other people. Because I think it's so easy to judge, like, why didn't she leave? Or why, like, we talked about this earlier with the financial stuff, like, Why didn't this? And it's like some of this stuff has been going on for so long, you know, you don't think it will ever turn to something that bad, right? So, and then the other thing that I want to highlight that happened to them as they started SOS, really cool company. Invest their life savings to, like, make this product, it's going to help.Brad Crowell 17:15  Raise money, like, had friends and family help support.Lesley Logan 17:17  It's gonna help people who, who need, access to support wherever they are, and obviously women, this is what the product is for. But we all need this. It can be helpful for anybody, but they had a fire like a freak electrical situation in their roof. First of all, the product helped get the fire department there. You have to listen to the story. It's insane. Brad Crowell 17:38  Faster than calling 911. Lesley Logan 17:39  Yes, faster than calling 911, this product, they were able to press the panic button and get the fire department there, which the fire department said, if they had, any, any minute later, they would have lost the whole house. So they got to keep the framework. Anyways, there's a lot going on there, but they lost all the product. Yeah, however, because they had to start from scratch, and they already had customers, and they'd already been going through it. They use it as an opportunity to make it even better. And I share this because, like, so many times, like.Brad Crowell 18:09  I mean, how do how deflating would that be that not only do you lose your house, but all your business at the exact same time. Lesley Logan 18:16  I mean, I don't even know how you just go get a job at Costco. Like, I don't even know how you go let me do this again. Brad Crowell 18:20  Let me start over. Lesley Logan 18:21  I, like, buy.Brad Crowell 18:22  After everything burned down. Lesley Logan 18:23  While I'm not living in my own home. Like, let me just start this over while like, all, that's what, I'm not gonna lie, like, I think I seriously would have got a job at Costco because I could get my steps in. You know, I hear good things. The hot dogs are $1.50 like, you know, like, I would have just, like, packed it in, but instead, they use it as an opportunity to make the product even better. Aand I think, as a business owner or someone who's working on a new project like we think we have to get it right from the first time, the first start, the first the first iteration has to be the best one. And actually, like most people's first ones are not the one that go like, not the one that goes to market. In fact, we have. Brad Crowell 19:01  How many websites have we rebuilt? Lesley Logan 19:03  Don't tell me. Don't tell me. But you know what? Even our mat deck, right? Like we have changed the mat deck, our Mat Flashcard Deck, because we put it out there, we sold 3000 decks, and then we printed a new version of it, because we've all the feedback we got. And then also how we know other people use the other decks? Ken Endelman said that, you know, Joe Pilates, a lot of his sketches and his patents that he sent in, and not really sent in, but he pretended like he did, those are not things he went to market with. He's like, you don't usually go to market with the first one. Like, you use that to get the patent, but that's not what what you go to market with. And so I think, like. Brad Crowell 19:38  I mean, even now, we've just made another change to the flashcard deck boxes, you know, like, like, like it. Because every time we learn something new, we're like, oh, we need to add that on, or we need to do this, or we should adjust this, or whatever. Lesley Logan 19:53  Oh, yeah, we have to made in the USA, on our boxes. Brad Crowell 19:55  How do we how do we miss that? Five years, we never, we were never (inaudible). Lesley Logan 19:58  Clearly, it wasn't like, I remember my dad, like, going, does it say made in the USA? No, you can't have it. So I don't even know how, like, I'd skipped my brain. We were printing it, but apparently it's a thing. Anyways, I just point this out, because even if you don't think the topic applies to you, you think, oh, I'm not going off having first dates, or I'm not, like, I'm not interested in this, every single one of us is going to do a first again? And then get frustrated because it didn't work. And honestly, it's because you're supposed to, you're supposed to go with the second thing or the third iteration. Brad Crowell 20:30  Yeah. I mean, there's also the tech. The tech part of the of it, it is proximity, or like, as well. So if somebody else in a room, if you are on the app and someone else in the room pushes the button, you will get notified as well. So like, you know, might not necessarily be you personally, who might be in that scenario, but it could be that you're in the proximity of someone who needs help. So, just interesting. Lesley Logan 20:53  Yeah, and this is, like, we're, we're like, you know, we can be, we always think we want it. We can be an alert for other people, but it's hard to be an alert when you can't see the signs, like we've talked about, like somebody like choking, you can see actual signs. They are choking. They need help. But when someone feels unsafe on a date or at a meeting or, you know, or walking down the street, you can't tell oftentimes that they feel unsafe. And this is a very discreet way, a very discreet tech that allows them to say, I'm not safe, and other people to be able to be witnesses or support in that, in that, yeah, so I think it's really cool.Brad Crowell 21:26  Yeah, definitely, you know, like a lot, like a lot going on there, you know, I think I have something else I wanted to talk about, but just the fact, first off, how the hell is it possible that they build a relationship with the emergency services, where pressing a button on a lipstick container would get the fire department to her house faster than calling nine fucking one one, like, what? How did they? How did they do that? I didn't even know that I didn't even know how that's possible. Lesley Logan 21:52  (inaudible) want to know. But obviously, like that might be like, you know, confidential information is I want people to know, not because, like, you know, like, maybe they're not allowed to say, maybe it's an NDA. But no, we called 911, and got put on hold.Brad Crowell 22:05  What? But it also makes you realize that there are, like, clearly, there are systems that can be tapped into, and they were able to figure that out. I didn't even know that that was a thing. Like, I would have imagined.Lesley Logan 22:19  It makes me think of what's the Italian Job where Seth Green's character is like, tapping into, like the yeah napster is like tapping into like the red lights up. That's a red light. That's a green light. Like, clearly, there's.Brad Crowell 22:32  Sorry, I won't start until you address me as Napster.Lesley Logan 22:34  Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's clearly, like, something. But I also just want to say, like, if you haven't yet listened to the episode, you want to listen to it so you could understand what the product is, and you can also see it on our YouTube channel. It's quite cool, and I think, an excellent gift for every woman in your life, even if they're married, it's you, you, because she talks about using it for like a kid she saw on the street. Brad Crowell 22:55  So yeah, she said, yeah. She and and her husband saw a kid with no shoes in Vegas, which walking down a sidewalk or whatever, and she's like, there's something wrong here clearly, you know, so, but, but, yeah, I mean, it's, anyway, the tech part is fascinating and really, really fancy. And then, of course, they have, it's lipstick, so presumably they will have different colors at some point. Lesley Logan 23:19  Yeah, there's a whole thing. It's, I mean, she's done a great job. Brad Crowell 23:22  And then, but anyway, you know, she was talking about blame culture, oh yeah. And she was talking about how there's a crazy number of people who've experienced drink spiking where, you know, I was looking up a bunch of stats, and, like, like, at very least 10% of women have reported it saying, like, I either have my drink spiked, or I saw someone spike someone else's drink. Lesley Logan 23:44  It's also, I think the number is so high because, like (inaudible). Brad Crowell 23:50  Well, that's, that's only, that's only, like people who have actually reported it, you know. And then there's, there's polling that has happened where you know it's, it's not, that's not necessarily reported to, like, it's a poll. Lesley Logan 24:00  Well, can you imagine if nothing, or you don't know if anything happened to you? Like, I have just in all the podcasts I listen to, like, people have called the cops and the cops are like. Brad Crowell 24:10  Don't do shit. Lesley Logan 24:11  Don't do fucking shit. And don't I'm not, like, I'm not against police, guys. What I am against is this culture of, like, not believing women, and it goes to this blame stuff. Like, what were you wearing? What were you doing? You know, like, if you're.Brad Crowell 24:23  Or it's like, did they, did they threaten you? You know, like, I guess maybe I don't know what the actually, this is interesting. If you, if you know, what do you need to say to get them to pay attention? That would be something that'd be worth finding. I don't know the answer to that. I mean, just, there's a there's a.Brad Crowell 24:43  Well, because here's like, I, my personal experience was I had somebody threaten me when I was living in L.A. right, and I was afraid, and I didn't know what to do, so I called the police, and it wasn't an emergency. He wasn't like, he wasn't at my door. But I called them, and I said, hey, I I don't know what to do here, but, like, this guy's threatened me, and he's he might be on his way over right now. I don't. know what to do. And they were like, did he threaten to kill you? And I was like, he didn't say, I'm going to kill you. And they were like, we're not going to do anything. And I was like, what? Like, he's, he's making me feel like I'm in trouble.Lesley Logan 25:11  Well, I just listened to, it was just, I was listening to, like, a Dateline or something like that. And they brought up the story about this woman, Denise, who was kidnapped from her home, and then, like, taken away for several days, and then, and then told not to tell anyone. And they called her the American Gone Girl, like the real life Gone Girl. They didn't believe her boyfriend. They said he must have done it. He must, must have done it. They didn't believe her. They tried to charge her with a crime. They just said that they, like, wasted the police time. Then come to find out, two other victims called separate police departments to claim the same thing, and those police departments didn't believe them. Why would anyone do that? Like, didn't believe them. So I am with you. Like, we don't we need to know. What do cops need to hear so they actually believe what you're saying. But also, like, I think it just goes.Brad Crowell 25:53  Like, it's a common experience among survivors is that they're like, I wasn't believed, right, and, and, like, the the number of people who, in polling have to have have said, hey, yes, I've experienced drink spiking, is like, could be, like, super high. It could be as high as one in two women. Right? And anyway, like when you put it all together, there's clearly a problem. It's fucked up, that there's a problem, but there is a problem, right? And then when women aren't believed, you know, and it doesn't actually just have to be women having their drink spiked. Anybody can have their drink spiked. Lesley Logan 26:28  I listen to the podcast Bad Dates, many men get their drinks spiked. Brad Crowell 26:31  Yeah, when, when if it's reported and it's not believed, what does that teach the person who reported it? Yeah, that they're they're not going to try to even report it next time. What's the point is what they're going to say. Lesley Logan 26:43  And that's what puts you people in not so great situations, where by the time something does happen, it's a little too late to get help. But I think, like, what, you know, she talked a little bit like changing, changing the shift of of shame from the survivor, from the survivor to the perpetrator, and making that the focus. And I think when you use a product like they have, or you educate women in an or man in this way of like, what? What does it mean to like it's not your fault. It really is is more empowering because now you, especially like, so many people are have fear about like, well, what goes what if something goes wrong on the date? What happens if something goes wrong in the interview? What if something goes wrong at the house showing like, we can take some of the fear away and put some control back in the hands of the person who might be might become a victim of something, and we can hopefully stop that or mitigate that.Brad Crowell 27:32  Yeah, and obviously, you know, Joy and her company are very aware of all of the stigma, so they've been intentional about their names of their products. Like, one of them is called We Believe You, It's Not The Dress, you know, like, like, stuff like that, which speak directly to the problem, the real problem, which is the blame game.Lesley Logan 27:54  Yeah, yeah. I just think it's like, you know, unfortunately, we're recording this, like, right after, like, some of the Diddy trials and Weinstein's retrial, and, like, it starts to make you think that, like, the Me Too movement, kind of, like, didn't, didn't have the effect that we thought it would have, and women aren't being believed as much or, or the blame is on them for putting themselves in the situations. And I think, like, if we can all think about it differently, we can actually start to spot things and support people, instead of going, well, how did that happen to them? Like with a judgment, it can, things can happen to anybody at any time in this world. And since we can't actually stop these perpetrators because we don't know who they are, what we can all do is band together and be part of a support system, of of being there for people, whether we know them or not, and just being a safety for them, and also not assuming it's what they wore or what they did at a certain time, or why would you be on that street, like all that stuff is unhelpful and.Brad Crowell 28:54  Doesn't solve the problem anyway. Lesley Logan 28:55  No, doesn't, doesn't. So, anyways, we can get our high horse on this forever. But I do love what Joy is doing, and I think this product is really cool. Brad Crowell 29:03  Yeah. And also, you know, driven by a clear problem that needs a solution. And, you know, it's just really, really clever. And you know, if you see, if you actually go look at the lipstick, it's pretty innocuous. You wouldn't act there's no like, press here, like Acme button kind of a thing. It's, it's quick, easy and then what, what I thought was also cool is you can set it so that, if I think there's settings, if you click it once, you can alert one person. If you click it twice, you can alert a different person.Lesley Logan 29:34  Yeah, you can set up the different things in the app for what you do. And one of our neighbors, you know, her daughter was going off to EDC. Daughter's 19 years old, going to EDC, and of course, the mom wants her daughter to go to EDC, like you should experience festivals when you're 19. She had this product, and she had a Narcan, a Narcan thing so she could be there in case someone needed it, right, like Narcan for somebody who's overdosing, but she had this product to make sure that her own stuff was safe. And that she could be safe so she could enjoy herself and be at EDC. You know, I love, for a 19 year to live in a place where she could just go to a festival and be fine. We don't live in that world. So I love that she was empowered to have a good time and also take care of herself and her friends. Brad Crowell 30:19  That's really cool. That's cool. All right. Well, stick around. We'll be right back, because Joy gave us a couple of really amazing Be It Action Items. We're going to dig into those. Brad Crowell 30:19  All right, welcome back. So finally, let's talk about those Be It Action Items. What bold, executable, intrinsic or targeted action items can we take away from your convo with Joy Hoover? She said, hold space for yourself. This came from her conversation around the collective trauma that she and her husband and, you know, daughter experience when her daughter was only eight, but with her in laws, right? And she said, immediately after it happened, they started to get therapy as a as a couple, and they've maintained, you know, therapy since, and that was 2013, so it's been a while, right? And she said, prioritizing your healing, it puts you in a position to help others without inadvertently hurting them, right? Like she said, she's and the call out here was, you have to heal yourself first. You can't heal the heal the world if you're not healing yourself first, right? And she said something very intention. She said it was it's not about your intention, right? It's about your impact. And you could have the intention of helping people, but actually be hurting them. So you need to heal yourself first before you're going on to support others in that kind of a way. She said, also, it's not selfish. It's she said, it is selfish to not heal yourself first. It's not selfish to take care of yourself. It's selfish if you don't take care of yourself. Lesley Logan 31:53  I mean now I love this. Brad Crowell 31:55  Yeah, and this is, like, obviously, right up our alley, you know? And.Lesley Logan 32:00  Do you know what I read the other day in it, in my own My Morning reads, And I am like, now preaching it, because I always say, like, self-care isn't selfish care, right? So self-care is actually an act of self-love. And if you do not love yourself, you actually cannot love other people. Can't. You can feel like you're loving on them and supporting them and liking them, but like, you actually can't truly love others because you don't love yourself. And the hatred and vitriol we're seeing in this world today, online, and in other places, is just because a bunch of people don't love themselves. And we're like, the world needs love. Gotta love yourself first. Cannot just like, go out you can't just spread yourself thin. And I think that that act of therapy, an act of self-love, it's an act of self-care. It's very important. It's not selfish. You're right. Brad Crowell 32:45  Yeah. What about you? Lesley Logan 32:44  Okay, so she said she encouraged us all to join the Swipe Red movement. The core slogan of the movement is, "No more shame, no more doubt. We see red flags, we call them out." And so you can contribute to the community awareness if you just go to Esōes Cosmetics, and that's at esoescosmetics.com and it provides platforms for community engagement. You can submit experiences you had so others can recognize and respond to similar threats. I think that's really important, because sometimes you have not experienced a red flag, but if you hear about other people's, you go, oh, and then you can see the signs. Brad Crowell 33:10  You know, it's funny, because it, I get a weekly email forwarded from my mom who gets notifications from her company about cybersecurity threats, right? And what people have done to trick other people into giving away information that eventually could hurt them, right? And so it's the same idea here. You know this, the community platform that they've put together is a way to just become more educated and be aware. So I love that. Lesley Logan 33:53  And also, in that community, you can ask for guidance on your own red flags. You can submit a question to inquire the situation the minor ick or a significant red flag. Here's the thing, I love this because, you know, 12 years ago, my therapist was like, Yeah, miss, you ignored the red flags in your relationship. So you need to go back into your memory box about those first dates and what flags did you ignore that were red so that you can spot them as you date. And then you have to practice like, how red is this flag? Is this an orange flag? Is it a yellow flag? What kind of flag is this? And I love this because you don't have to do it by yourself. You could do with other people. You could help you can use other people's red flags to help you. So I think it's really cool. I think it's cool. And what a unique Be It Action Item. So, I'm in. Really cool. I hope everyone goes and checks this out again. Like it can be a great gift for a woman in your life or a person in your life, but also, just like to be aware of what's going on. It's so easy for us to think it won't happen to us, and this stuff, you know, like, some people, I've heard people go, oh, I'm too old for that. Like it won't happen to me. And like, I worry the fuck out of like, my mom and women her age who are dating. I'm like, like, no, there are things that can happen to you. I remember my 80 year old clients, like, I can't get pregnant. I'm like, yeah, but you can get crabs, babe. Like, what? You can't just feel like life's good now I don't have anything to worry about. No, bad things happen to good people. You have to be aware. So, thanks, Joy for what you're doing. I'm Lesley Logan. Brad Crowell 35:16  And I'm Brad Crowell. Lesley Logan 35:17  How are you going to use these tips in your life? Please let us know. Let Joy Hoover at Esōes Cosmetics know, let the Be It Pod know. Share this with a friend who needs to hear it. I think it's a great episode to share with a friend. Yes, there's some information that could be hard to listen to, but I think it's really important. And until next time, Be It Till You See It. Brad Crowell 35:35  Bye for now. Lesley Logan 35:35  That's all I got for this episode of the Be It Till You See It Podcast. One thing that would help both myself and future listeners is for you to rate the show and leave a review and follow or subscribe for free wherever you listen to your podcast. Also, make sure to introduce yourself over at the Be It Pod on Instagram. I would love to know more about you. Share this episode with whoever you think needs to hear it. Help us and others Be It Till You See It. Have an awesome day. Be It Till You See It is a production of The Bloom Podcast Network. 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