Podcast appearances and mentions of robert pearl

Adoption of artificial intelligence tools by healthcare providers is growing. When will people start to adopt? 4sight Health's David W. Johnson and Robert Pearl, M.D., former CEO of the Permanente Medical Group, debate the acceptance and adoption of artificial intelligence tools in healthcare by providers and patients on, “When Will AI Adoption by Providers Meet AI Acceptance by Patients?” this special episode of the 4sight Health Roundup podcast, moderated by David Burda.

In this thought-provoking episode of Unfiltered, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr sit down with cardiologist and physician well-being advocate Dr. Jonathan Fisher to explore the intersection of stress, ... The post FHC #178: Dying of a broken heart, literally appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this special episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Dr. Maria Ansari, CEO of The Permanente Medical Group, Northwest Permanente and Mid-Atlantic Permanente Medical ... The post FHC #177: Inside TPMG's bold AI strategy with CEO Maria Ansari appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this month's Diving Deep episode of the Fixing Healthcare podcast, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle two major questions: How have the first 100 days of Presidents ... The post FHC #176: What AGI means for medicine & what Trump means for healthcare appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr unpack a troubling set of healthcare developments—from surging vaccine-preventable illnesses to steep hikes in drug costs ... The post MTT #94: Measles, meds & misinformation: Can we still trust American science? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr unpack a troubling set of healthcare developments—from surging vaccine-preventable illnesses to steep hikes in drug costs ... The post MTT #94: Measles, meds & misinformation: Can we still trust American science? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Unfiltered, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr are joined once again by cardiologist and physician wellness advocate Dr. Jonathan Fisher. The trio take an unfiltered ... The post FHC #175: Burnout, Broken Systems & The Severed Self appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Oliver Kharraz, founder and CEO of Zocdoc, for a conversation about the power of technology ... The post FHC #174: Zocdoc CEO says AI will cure healthcare's scheduling chaos appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this week's Fixing Healthcare podcast, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr flash back to a pivotal interview recorded in December 2021 with famed venture capitalist Vinod Khosla. Season ... The post FHC #173: Before ChatGPT, Vinod Khosla predicted healthcare's AI revolution appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

This episode of Relentless Health Value features Dr. Kenny Cole from Ochsner Health System. The discussion emphasizes the critical role of trusted relationships and excellent primary care teams in keeping patients out of the emergency room, thus reducing healthcare costs. Stacey Richter revisits this conversation to highlight the importance of care teams building trust with patients and the concept of primary care as an investment in health and wellness. The episode outlines four key points for delivering great primary care, including accountability for outcomes, belief in clinical goals, standardized care flows, and building patient trust. Dr. Cole also discusses the real-world challenges and strategies for achieving clinical and financial success in primary care. The episode serves as a guide for plan sponsors, clinicians, and healthcare executives looking to improve primary care delivery and align it with financial viability. The discussion is further enriched with insights on digitizing care pathways and the importance of measuring and sharing best practices to achieve high standards of care.I Stacey revisits, in a take two, this episode with Dr. Kenny Cole because she's listening to it this time with a new focus. That focus is the theme that keeps coming up over and over and over again on Relentless Health Value these past few months. === LINKS ===

In this month's Diving Deep episode of the Fixing Healthcare podcast, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle one of healthcare's most misunderstood facts: nearly 91% of Americans receive ... The post FHC #172: 91% of Americans get subsidized healthcare. What if it vanishes? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

The U.S. healthcare system could save up to 500,000 lives and $1.5 trillion a year by embracing the right technology, says Dr. Robert Pearl, a Stanford University professor and a noted healthcare influencer. Pearl, who co-authored his new book “ChatGPT, MD” with the help of generative AI, says the tech's strength lies in its access to the entirety of medical knowledge. “We shouldn't think of [generative AI] as just another AI tool. This is as … different from what's come before as the iPhone was from the telephone that was in most people's kitchens attached to the wall.” For clinicians and patients alike, that access can be transformative. Parents might use it to uncover what's wrong with their child when traditional medicine is still searching for answers. A doctor might identify rare diagnoses in minutes, work that would have taken days in a library. Hospitals already collect massive data — about a terabyte per facility annually — but 97% of it is never reviewed, Pearl says. The key is narrowing it to specific diseases or trends.Pearl tells “Conversations on Health Care” hosts Mark Masselli and Margaret Flinter that Gen AI will gain widespread medical acceptance when studies compare outcomes with and without the technology“We're going to find that the technology is 10% better than the average clinician … or the average nurse in a chronic disease management program…or, for that matter, potentially even the average physician doing inpatient care when there are five or six different doctors taking care of the same patient and they're not effectively communicating.”Click now to hear his take on the technology's other benefits. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr examine the alarming spread of measles across 25 U.S. states (with outbreaks in six). The disease, ... The post MTT #93: Measles death toll rises, healthcare spending hits $5.2 trillion appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Originally broadcast April 17, 2025 The U.S. healthcare system could save up to 500,000 lives and $1.5 trillion a year by embracing the right technology, says Dr. Robert Pearl, a Stanford University professor and a noted healthcare influencer. Pearl, who co-authored his new book “ChatGPT, MD” with the help of generative AI, says the tech's strength lies in its access to the entirety of medical knowledge. “We shouldn't think of [generative AI] as just another AI tool. This is as... Read More Read More The post “ChatGPT, MD”: Author Says AI-Empowered Patients, Doctors Take Control appeared first on Healthy Communities Online.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr examine the alarming spread of measles across 25 U.S. states (with outbreaks in six). The disease, ... The post MTT #93: Measles death toll rises, healthcare spending hits $5.2 trillion appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In episode 228 of The Business Development Podcast, Kelly Kennedy is joined by the visionary Dr. Robert Pearl, former CEO of the Permanente Medical Group and author of ChatGPT, MD. Together, they explore how generative AI is poised to radically reshape global healthcare systems. Dr. Pearl shares a compelling case for AI's ability to bring not just information, but true expertise to the patient experience—empowering individuals, easing the burden on overworked physicians, and addressing the root causes of system-wide burnout. From real-world AI use cases to shocking inefficiencies in modern hospitals, this conversation makes one thing clear: we are standing at the edge of Healthcare 4.0, and the shift has already begun.What makes this episode unforgettable is the sense of urgency and hope. Dr. Pearl compares this moment to the invention of the printing press, the internet, and the iPhone—technologies that fundamentally altered the course of humanity. With AI's power doubling annually, he urges entrepreneurs, clinicians, and governments to act swiftly or risk missing the window to transform a system overwhelmed by chronic disease and outdated infrastructure. Whether you're a healthcare leader, tech entrepreneur, policymaker, or everyday patient, this episode is a wake-up call.Key Takeaways: 1. Generative AI marks a turning point in healthcare, offering not just information, but true medical expertise directly to patients.2. Chronic disease is the number one driver of healthcare system failure globally, not politics or bad intent.3. Current systems are built for acute care, not long-term management—AI is the key to making that shift efficiently.4. The gap between technology in surgery and administration is massive—some hospitals still rely on 1830s fax machine technology.5. Physician burnout is skyrocketing due to volume-based pay structures that force rushed care and moral injury.6. Capitated healthcare models like Kaiser Permanente improve both outcomes and physician satisfaction through prevention-focused care.7. Generative AI can manage data overload from wearables, enabling real-time, patient-led chronic disease management.8. The exponential growth of AI means tools 5 years from now will be 32x more powerful—leaders must act now or be left behind.9. Healthcare transformation likely won't come from inside the system—it will come from entrepreneurs bold enough to disrupt it.10. The book ChatGPT, MD isn't just documentation—it's a rally cry for visionary leadership to shape the future of global health.For more insights from Dr. Robert Pearl and to explore the future of healthcare through AI, visit robertpearlmd.com and pick up a copy of ChatGPT, MD.Companies mentioned in this episode: Kaiser Permanente ChatGPT Doctors Without Borders Capital Business Development Amazon Walmart CVS

In this lively episode of Unfiltered, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr are joined once again by cardiologist and physician wellness advocate Dr. Jonathan Fisher. The trio takes an ... The post FHC #171: The doctor is in … Lululemon? appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In a special episode of Fixing Healthcare, Jeremy Corr flips the script and interviews fellow cohost Dr. Robert Pearl, who shares his expert view on the three most important technologies ... The post FHC #170: AI could save 500,000 lives, $1.5 trillion a year, says Dr. Pearl appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this month's Diving Deep episode of the Fixing Healthcare podcast, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle the fusion of generative AI and telemedicine, demonstrating how the combination ... The post FHC #169: How GenAI, telemedicine can fix America's chronic disease crisis appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome back cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher for a candid discussion on how political ... The post FHC #168: How political unrest is changing American healthcare appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr dive into the latest developments in American healthcare, from a severe flu outbreak to deep Medicaid ... The post MTT #92: The worst flu season in 15 years, a measles resurgence & Medicaid cuts appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr dive into the latest developments in American healthcare, from a severe flu outbreak to deep Medicaid ... The post MTT #92: The worst flu season in 15 years, a measles resurgence & Medicaid cuts appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Joe Petro, Corporate Vice President of Microsoft Health & Life Sciences Solutions and Platforms. A ... The post FHC #167: How Microsoft's AI solutions got a doctor home in time for dinner appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this month's Diving Deep episode, part of the Fixing Healthcare podcast series, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr examine three pressing topics shaping the future of American medicine: the ... The post FHC #166: Musk's DOGE vs. healthcare + UnitedHealth's defining moment appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome back cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher to explore a surprising and growing trend: ... The post FHC #165: Why doctors are doing side gigs appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr discuss some of the most pressing issues in medicine today, from the latest breakthroughs in generative ... The post MTT #91: The future of AI in healthcare & the latest on vaccines, dementia, cancer appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr discuss some of the most pressing issues in medicine today, from the latest breakthroughs in generative ... The post MTT #91: The future of AI in healthcare & the latest on vaccines, dementia, cancer appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

A conversation with Dr. Robert PearlPut a system in place that rewards value. Sounds simple, right? Sharing a vision for seismic healthcare reform is renowned healthcare leader, award-winning author, and plastic surgeon Dr. Robert Pearl.Dr. Pearl originally believed healthcare was a non-political space. How could medicine be political? Yet our healthcare system is on its knees, drug companies are protected by policy, patients are struggling to afford care, and our rates of chronic disease are staggeringly high - adding huge cost to the system.But wait - is there a solution? Could generative AI pave the way for a new era of medicine?——We spoke about   the broken state of the U.S. healthcare system, the history and future of healthcare technology, the role of generative AI in revolutionizing inpatient care, and the importance of cultural and systemic shifts in healthcare.Follow me on Instagram and Facebook @ericfethkemd and checkout my website at www.EricFethkeMD.com. My brand new book, The Privilege of Caring, is out now on Amazon! https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CP6H6QN4

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Munjal Shah, co-founder and CEO of Hippocratic AI, to explore how generative AI can help address one of the ... The post FHC #164: AI vs. healthcare's staffing crisis with Hippocratic's CEO appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Munjal Shah, co-founder and CEO of Hippocratic AI, to explore how generative AI can help ... The post FHC #164: Hippocratic's CEO on AI vs. healthcare's staffing crisis appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this month's Diving Deep episode, part of the Fixing Healthcare podcast series, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle two powerful stories that stand at medicine's crossroads. Dr. Pearl ... The post FHC #163: Lessons from the tech industry & a CEO's tragic murder appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr are joined by cardiologist and burnout expert Dr. Jonathan Fisher for an up-close look at two ... The post FHC #162: Overcoming medical errors and rebuilding public trust appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr take on the pressing medical challenges dominating headlines this winter. From rising concerns about respiratory infections ... The post MTT #90: Winter viruses, vaccine skepticism & America's healthcare frustrations appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr take on the pressing medical challenges dominating headlines this winter. From rising concerns about respiratory infections and vaccine skepticism to the harsh realities of healthcare costs, this episode delivers a comprehensive look at what's happening in American medicine today. The conversation […]

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Dr. Karen DeSalvo, an internal medicine physician and the Chief Health Officer at Google, to ... The post FHC #161: AI will help docs be their best selves, says Google's Karen DeSalvo appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

This holiday season, Fixing Healthcare hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr invite listeners to reflect on the most valuable gift you can give yourself: a healthier, happier heart. In ... The post FHC #159: Fixing Healthcare flashback with Jonathan Fisher appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this month's Diving Deep episode, part of the Fixing Healthcare podcast series, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle three critical topics shaping the future of medicine: Robert F. ... The post FHC #158: RFK Jr., obesity, the healthcare cost crisis and AI appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome Kimberly Powell, vice president of healthcare at NVIDIA, to explore how the company's technologies are ... The post FHC #157: NVIDIA expects AI, robots to cure healthcare's biggest problems appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

Few people are better at demystifying the byzantine complexities of the American healthcare system than the former CEO of Kaiser Permanente, Robert Pearl, MD. So what does Pearl make of Trump's nomination of RFK Jr for Secretary of Health and Human Services? Is this a thinly veiled excuse to go to war with the current American healthcare system? Or does RFK Jr really have the acuity to responsibly reform a system in desperate need of reinvention?For 18 years, ROBERT PEARL, MD served as CEO of The Permanente Medical Group (Kaiser Permanente). He is also former president of The Mid-Atlantic Permanente Medical Group. In these roles he led 10,000 physicians, 38,000 staff and was responsible for the nationally recognized medical care of 5 million Kaiser Permanente members on the west and east coasts. He is a clinical professor of plastic surgery at Stanford University School of Medicine and on the faculty at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, where he teaches courses on healthcare strategy, technology, and leadership. Pearl is board certified in plastic and reconstructive surgery, receiving his medical degree from Yale, followed by a residency in plastic and reconstructive surgery at Stanford University. He's the author of three books: Mistreated: Why We Think We're Getting Good Healthcare—And Why We're Usually Wrong, a Washington Post bestseller (2017); Uncaring: How the Culture of Medicine Kills Doctors & Patients, a Kirkus star recipient (2021); and his newest book ChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine (April 2024). All profits from sales of his books go to Doctors Without Borders. Dr. Pearl is a LinkedIn “Top Voice” in healthcare and host of the popular podcasts Fixing Healthcare and Medicine: The Truth. He publishes two monthly healthcare newsletters reaching 50,000+ combined subscribers. A frequent keynote speaker, Pearl has presented at The World Healthcare Congress, the Commonwealth Club, TEDx, HLTH, NCQA Quality Talks, the National Primary Care Transformation Summit, American Society of Plastic Surgeons, and international conferences in Brazil, Australia, India, and beyond. Pearl's insights on generative AI in healthcare have been featured in Associated Press, USA Today, MSN, FOX Business, Forbes, Fast Company, WIRED, Global News, Modern Healthcare, Medscape, Medpage Today, AI in Healthcare, Doximity, Becker's Hospital Review, the Advisory Board, the Journal of AHIMA, and more.Named as one of the "100 most connected men" by GQ magazine, Andrew Keen is amongst the world's best known broadcasters and commentators. In addition to presenting KEEN ON, he is the host of the long-running How To Fix Democracy show. He is also the author of four prescient books about digital technology: CULT OF THE AMATEUR, DIGITAL VERTIGO, THE INTERNET IS NOT THE ANSWER and HOW TO FIX THE FUTURE. Andrew lives in San Francisco, is married to Cassandra Knight, Google's VP of Litigation & Discovery, and has two grown children.Keen On is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit keenon.substack.com/subscribe

In this week's Fixing Healthcare podcast, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr revisit one of the show's most memorable interviews: Malcolm Gladwell's first appearance in 2022. Known for his ... The post FHC #156: Fixing Healthcare flashback with Malcolm Gladwell appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of the Fixing Healthcare podcast, co-host Dr. Robert Pearl marks the two-year anniversary of ChatGPT's public launch with an exclusive reading from his 2024 book, “ChatGPT, MD: ... The post FHC #155: The road to AI-empowered healthcare (from ‘ChatGPT, MD') appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this episode of Medicine: The Truth, co-hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr tackle a wide array of medical issues, from the potential healthcare impact of a second Trump ... The post MTT #89: Trump's second term, weight-loss drugs & the rise of ‘walking pneumonia' appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, cardiologist and well-being advocate Dr. Jonathan Fisher joins healthcare leader Dr. Robert Pearl and host Jeremy Corr to explore how healthcare professionals handle ... The post FHC #154: Handling pressure in medicine with tips for doctors, leaders appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the latest episode of Fixing Healthcare, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome back Vinod Khosla, legendary investor and co-founder of Sun Microsystems, to discuss the transformative impact ... The post FHC #153: Vinod Khosla on AI, disruption & the future of medicine appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

A rate critical to attain better care for patients, I'm gonna say, is enlightened leadership—maybe dyad leadership—at a clinical organization. I am saying this because without enlightened leaders, it'd be harder to build from the blueprint that Beau Raymond, MD, talks about today on the show. For a full transcript of this episode, click here. If you enjoy this podcast, be sure to subscribe to the free weekly newsletter to be a member of the Relentless Tribe. I'd say an enlightened leader is someone—and this is my definition, but it's a term that Tom Lee, MD, brought up first in an earlier episode (EP445)—an enlightened leader really cares about providing better patient care at an affordable price. They have a manifesto to that end, if you will. They also have studied, likely, and understand how change management works because every improvement requires change. They get the bit about people, processes, and technology being intertwined and what operational excellence means. Further, they are probably doing or considering many of the things that Robert Pearl, MD, talked about in episode 412. On the opposite end of the spectrum, there's a new term floating around called administrative harm. There's a study. Admin harm refers as much to what administrators—who I refuse to call leaders at this context because I'm talking about the not good administrators, so let's be clear—but I'd say administrative harm results from what the administrators choose not to do as much as what they choose to do. It is actually a thing to be an enlightened leader, especially in these profit-driven times. It's really tough, actually, and nothing anyone should take for granted. So, maybe this whole show is kind of a shout-out to the enlightened leaders out there. Thanks for doing what you do. Okay, so this said, and it needed to be said, let's talk blueprint for better care in the conversation that follows. Dr. Beau Raymond says, step 1, right out of the gate, set clear goals. Then step 2, engage others throughout the organization to together build the framework needed to achieve said goals. Engaging frontline folks and others is really the only way that any proposed framework will actually work in the real world. Listen to the shows with Karen Root (EP381) and Ashleigh Gunter (EP447) for just one proof point after another that what I say is based in fact. Step 3 of the blueprint to better outcomes that Beau Raymond, MD, talks about today is get your data. We talk a lot about plan sponsors and the getting of data, but same thing applies to clinical organizations. For clinical organizations, the getting of data means longitudinal data. The need for longitudinal data has come up in multiple shows, most recently the one with Dan Nardi (Spotlight Episode), and this is just one example of why getting the whole bag of data really matters. Dan said on that earlier show, it's often a thing that oncologists are unaware of how many of their patients are winding up in the ER for nausea after chemo, which, by the way, is the most common cause for readmission. And the reason for this is lots of patients travel to their oncologist but go to a local ER in a different health system. The show with Brendan Keeler (EP454) about the Particle v Epic lawsuit in general dustup over who gets the data is super relevant here. That's what I was thinking when I was talking with Dr. Raymond, and maybe it just popped in your head, too. Or just continuing this topic of the importance of longitudinal data, how many specialists, in almost any specialty, see a patient and then don't know what happened to that patient subsequently? Or even primary care in transactional models? So, step 3 here is get your data and also, as part of that, figure out how to make sure everybody understands the data and also understands that it is fair. Eric Gallagher (EP405), Dr. Raymond's dyad counterpart over at Ochsner, talked about this some in that episode. So did Kenny Cole, MD (EP431), interestingly, also from Ochsner. Amy Scanlan, MD (EP402) mentions it as well. Step 4 in the blueprint to measurably better outcomes that I discuss with Dr. Beau Raymond, data collection and data management probably need to be system-wide because … yeah, longitudinal and etc. But the “What are you gonna do now with the insights that you derived from the data?” is pretty local. The obstacles and enablers are going to be different depending on the geography. For example, an area with a large Vietnamese population and a big variation in colorectal screening rates as a priority, just logically, is gonna have a program that is in no way suited to roll out in an area with, say, a large Black or African American population with high hypertension rates. Priorities and programs are just different depending on the geography. So, step 4 here is, ask each region, based on the data, what fixes they're going to own. What will they take ownership on and commit to improving? What I thought was interesting in this interview is kind of the way that equity comes up between ethnic groups or between genders. In and of itself, obviously, striving for equity is critical. But also, if you're trying to improve quality across the board and you see disparities in care, figuring out what is going on with the group experiencing the worse outcomes is also just operational excellence. You don't want to be a solution looking around for a problem, after all; so, you need to figure out the actual problems for the actual people experiencing the problems to avoid that. Those are the only solutions that are actually gonna work. Step 5 is to learn from each other. Maybe not a whole program is flat-out transferable from one geography to another, but that doesn't mean that nothing is transferable either. As usual, it's about being thoughtful and nuanced and finding that productive middle. At Ochsner, they do these cool weekly primary care huddles to share learnings and goings-on that Dr. Raymond explains in the show that follows. Throughout all of these steps in this blueprint, there is obviously a need to align how the practice or system is getting paid for the time and capital expenditures, of course. And Dr. Raymond addresses this and interestingly says something similar to what Dr. Tom Lee (EP445) and Scott Conard, MD (EP391) have said on earlier shows: that a lot of times compensation for improving care, if you do it in an operationally excellent way, can be revenue positive for systems with a combination of both FFS (fee for service) and value-based reimbursement. Underline, however, the part about having an enlightened leader who cares about clinical quality for that to work out. Dr. Beau Raymond, my guest today is chief medical officer for Ochsner Health Network. Ochsner Health Network, by the way, includes Ochsner and some other health system partners. There's also a bunch of small independent practices of one to two docs. Ochsner patients, in case you are unaware, are in the entire state of Louisiana, a little bit of Mississippi, Alabama, and also Texas. Also mentioned in this episode are Ochsner Health; Tom X. Lee, MD; Robert Pearl, MD; Karen Root, MBA, CCXP; Ashleigh Gunter; Dan Nardi; Brendan Keeler; Eric Gallagher; Kenny Cole, MD; Amy Scanlan, MD; Scott Conard, MD; Joshua Liu, MD; Eboni Price-Haywood, MD, MPH, MMM, FACP; and Chris Skisak, PhD.   You can learn more at Ochsner Health Network and by following Dr. Raymond on LinkedIn.   Sidney H. “Beau” Raymond, MD, MMM, FACP, is a board-certified internist now serving as the chief medical officer of Ochsner Health Network and medical director and executive director of Ochsner Accountable Care Network. Prior to joining Ochsner, Dr. Raymond was vice president, physician practice administrator, and chief medical information officer at East Jefferson General Hospital (EJGH). His experience included serving on the steering committee and later as a board member for Gulf South Quality Network. Beyond the administrative roles at EJGH, Dr. Raymond was involved with medical staff committees, including serving as chief of staff. He is also a past president of the Jefferson Parish Medical Society. Dr. Raymond earned a bachelor's degree in biology from Loyola University, earned a medical degree from the Louisiana State University School of Medicine, and completed his residency in internal medicine at LSU-New Orleans. He has also earned a Master of Medical Management from Tulane University.   07:50 What is step 1 of improving care for healthcare leaders? 10:44 Why is it important to be flexible while keeping your goals in sight? 11:48 Dr. Eboni Price-Haywood's article on disparities in COVID. 12:29 How is equity a data point to achieving overall care improvement? 15:01 “If you can't measure it … accurately, you're not going to be able to do anything differently.” 20:52 What strategies have been successful in using data to improve healthcare outcomes? 23:17 Why did Ochsner Health avoid looking at the individual physician standpoint in regard to an equity standpoint? 30:40 Why engaging patients in their healthcare actually improved patient visits and did not necessarily reduce patient visits. 34:49 “It's really about engaging with the patient.”   You can learn more at Ochsner Health Network and by following Dr. Raymond on LinkedIn.   Sidney H. “Beau” Raymond, MD, MMM, FACP, discusses #leadership on our #healthcarepodcast. #healthcare #podcast #financialhealth #primarycare #patientoutcomes #healthcareinnovation   Recent past interviews: Click a guest's name for their latest RHV episode! Brendan Keeler, Claire Brockbank, Cora Opsahl, Dan Nardi, Dr Spencer Dorn (EP451), Marilyn Bartlett, Dr Marty Makary, Shawn Gremminger (Part 2), Shawn Gremminger (Part 1), Elizabeth Mitchell (Summer Shorts 9), Dr Will Shrank (Encore! EP413)  

In the latest episode of Diving Deep, hosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr explore three timely healthcare topics that are shaping the future of medicine. This episode focuses on ... The post FHC #152: Tackling healthcare denial, consumerism & the cost crisis appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the latest episode of Medicine: The Truth, Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr return with timely insights on some of the most pressing issues in healthcare today. From the ... The post MTT #88: Abortion restrictions, PBMs and the rising cost of care appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this Unfiltered episode of Fixing Healthcare, cardiologist and physician well-being advocate Dr. Jonathan Fisher joins healthcare leader Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr, CEO of Executive Podcast Solutions, for ... The post FHC #150: Restoring meaning in medicine—burnout and the physician career arc appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In the second episode of Fixing Healthcare's 10th season, cohosts Dr. Robert Pearl and Jeremy Corr welcome back Dr. David Feinberg, chairman of Oracle Health, for a discussion centered on ... The post FHC #149: Tech needs to get out of the way of healthcare, says Feinberg appeared first on Fixing Healthcare.

In this podcast episode, Dr. Anthony Orsini discusses the value of difficult conversations in the medical field, reflecting on how his podcast has allowed him to connect with incredible people over the years. He reintroduces Dr. Robert Pearl, a former CEO of Kaiser Permanente, who first appeared on the podcast in 2021. Dr. Orsini highlights Dr. Pearl's work and his new book, "ChatGPTMD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine," which explores the role of AI in healthcare. Dr. Pearl emphasizes the broken state of the healthcare system, particularly the inefficiencies and challenges surrounding chronic disease management. He advocates for the integration of AI in medicine, arguing that it can enhance patient care, reduce costs, and ultimately save lives if clinicians are willing to embrace the technology.Dr. Pearl discusses how generative AI, like ChatGPT, can revolutionize the way healthcare is delivered by providing tools that make the practice more efficient and effective. However, both he and Dr. Orsini acknowledge the importance of maintaining the human element in medicine. They stress that while AI can assist with diagnoses and administrative tasks, the physician's role in building relationships and providing compassionate care remains irreplaceable. The conversation ends with a call for healthcare professionals to actively engage with AI to harness its potential while preserving the critical human touch that defines quality patient care. Please hit the subscribe button now!   Host:Dr. Anthony Orsini Guest:Robert Pearl, M.D.For More Information:Difficult Conversations PodcastThe Orsini WayThe Orsini Way-FacebookThe Orsini Way-LinkedInThe Orsini Way-InstagramThe Orsini Way-X/Twitterdrorsini@theorsiniway.comIt's All In The Delivery: Improving Healthcare Starting With A Single Conversation by Dr. Anthony OrsiniRobert Pearl, MD WebsiteRobert Pearl, MD X/TwitterRobert Pearl, M.D. LinkedInChatGPT, MD: How AI-Empowered Patients & Doctors Can Take Back Control of American Medicine by Robert Pearl, MDDifficult Conversations Podcast-Episode 153: Uncaring Conversations about Physician Culture with guest Robert Pearl, M.D.