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Join us for a fictional tale of two security leaders—Sarah and Roger—and their contrasting approaches to zero-day crisis management.________This fictional story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn.Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE3________Sean Martin is the host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. Visit Sean on his personal website.TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.

Guest: Chris Cochran, Co-Founder Hacker Valley Media [@TheHackerValley]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/chrishvmOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrishvm/On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@HackerValleyMedia______________________Host: MK Palmore, Host of The Leadership Student PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/mk-palmore______________________This Episode's SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?

Guest: Nikki Robinson, DSc, PhD, Security Architect at IBMOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/ACoAACvFM8sBiEX_BJr6dIgw-ACWfS1I-ZJg3OM__________________________SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?

Guest: Chris Younger, CEO and Co-Founder @ Class VI PartnersOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/chris-younger/Host: Brendon RodOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/brendon-rod____________________________This Episode's SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?

Guests: Ken Underhill, Chief Strategy Officer at Cloud UndergroundOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kenunderhillChristophe Foulon, Leadership Career Coach & Virtual Cyber Risk Advisor at CPF CoachingOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/chris_FoulonOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/christophefoulonTia (Yatia) Hopkins, Chief Cyber Resilience Officer (Field CISO) and Field CTO at eSentireOn Twitter | https://www.twitter.com/yhopkinsOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/yatiahopkins______________________Host: Chloé MessdaghiOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Theresa Payton, Chief Advisor and CEO of Fortalice®, LLC [@FortaliceLLC] and former White House Chief Information Officer (CIO) of the Executive Office of the President (EOP) from 2006-2008. She was the first woman to hold this position.On Twitter | https://twitter.com/TrackerPaytonOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/theresapayton________________________________Host: Dr. Rebecca WynnOn ITSPmagazine  

In this Brand Story episode, hosts Marco and Sean have a thought-provoking discussion with Peter Klimek from Imperva about the concept of "shift left" in application security. Have we gone too far?The conversation revolves around the challenges and benefits of identifying vulnerabilities earlier in the software development lifecycle and the need for collaboration between development and security teams. Peter emphasizes the importance of finding a balance between tools and human expertise in addressing vulnerabilities. He highlights the common issue of organizations having a backlog of vulnerabilities that need to be fixed, rather than a problem of finding vulnerabilities—it's "easy" to find them, harder to fix them all.The conversation also touches on the measurement of closure velocity and the significance of development team velocity as a core metric in application security. They discuss the role of APIs, platform engineering, and infrastructure as code in improving collaboration, automation, and trust in systems.Peter draws a parallel between guardrails on a highway and the need for guardrails in application security, emphasizing the importance of providing development teams with time to address critical vulnerabilities. They also explore the challenges of coordinating multiple teams and the role of operations in orchestrating the development and security processes.The need for a defensive mindset and the importance of leveraging the guardrails Peter noted to prevent fatal vulnerabilities is also discussed as they emphasize the significance of collaboration, measurement, and a balance between development and security teams in implementing shift left practices effectively.The episode provides valuable insights into the nuances, challenges, and benefits of integrating shift left practices into application security, while emphasizing the need for collaboration, balance, and the ethical use of tools.Note: This story contains promotional content. Learn more.Guest: Peter Klimek, Director of Technology - Office of the CTO at Imperva [@Imperva]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/peter-klimek-37588962/ResourcesLearn more about Imperva and their offering: https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988DevOps Research and Assessment (DORA): https://dora.dev2023 Imperva Bad Bot Report: https://itspm.ag/impervv0sg47.4% of internet traffic wasn't human in 2022! Get the research from @Imperva to learn how bots are taking over the internet.The Impact Of Log4j Since Its Disclosure | Steps Businesses Can Take To Maintain Software Supply Chain Security:Part 1: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/the-impact-of-log4j-since-its-disclosure-steps-businesses-can-take-to-maintain-software-supply-chain-security-part-1-of-2-an-imperva-story-with-gabi-stapelPart 2: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/why-protecting-your-business-data-is-more-like-securing-a-museum-than-a-bank-demystifying-data-protection-an-imperva-story-with-terry-ray-07mq5xex-q5rc-fw8From Enrolling In College To Gambling, Traveling, And Shopping, Evasive Bad Bots Are A Major Source Of Online Fraud | The Bad Bot Report 2022 | An Imperva Brand Story With Ryan Windham:Part 1: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/from-enrolling-in-college-to-gambling-traveling-and-shopping-evasive-bad-bots-are-a-major-source-of-online-fraud-the-bad-bot-report-2022-part-1-an-imperva-story-with-ryan-windhamPart 2: https://redefining-cybersecurity.simplecast.com/episodes/from-enrolling-in-college-to-gambling-traveling-and-shopping-evasive-bad-bots-are-a-major-source-of-online-fraud-the-bad-bot-report-2022-part-2-an-imperva-story-with-ryan-windhamCatch more stories from Imperva at https://www.itspmagazine.com/directory/impervaAre you interested in telling your story?https://www.itspmagazine.com/telling-your-story

About the CISO Circuit SeriesSean Martin and Michael Piacente will join forces roughly once per month to discuss everything from looking for a new job, entering the field, finding the right work/life balance, examining the risks and rewards in the role, building and supporting your team, the value of the community, relevant newsworthy items, and so much more. Join us to help us understand the role of the CISO so that we can collectively find a path to Redefining CyberSecurity. If you have a topic idea or a comment on an episode, feel free to contact Sean Martin.____________________________Guest: Michael Piacente, Managing Partner and Cofounder of Hitch PartnersOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/michael-piacente____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Pentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a___________________________Episode NotesIn this special episode of Redefining Cybersecurity—the CISO Circuit Series—Sean Martin and Michael Piacente come together to explore the role of a CISO and the challenges they face. They discuss how organizations are trimming cybersecurity activities, including the reduction or elimination of CISO roles, due to the impact of the economy. They explore the concept of "battlefield promotions," where individuals within organizations take on CISO responsibilities without the official title. They discuss the trend of an increasing number of job seekers in the cybersecurity market, with data revealing a significant rise in both proactive and reactive candidates. They also discuss the importance of executive-level support for CISOs and the impact it has on their job satisfaction and success.The conversation touches on the issue of executive sponsorship, with many companies failing to fully support their security programs, leading to frustration and turnover among CISOs. The conversation highlights the collaborative nature of the CISO community and its influence on the hiring process. They also explore the concept of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) and its influence on individuals seeking new security roles.The desire to make a positive impact on the world and align with organizations that share that goal emerges as a driving force for CISOs. Give the challenges cybersecurity leadership encounters, the need for adequate support and resources continues to mount.Throughout the episode, Sean and Michael provide valuable insights into the evolving nature of the CISO role and the factors that influence job satisfaction and career moves in the cybersecurity industry. Listeners can expect a thoughtful and informative conversation that highlights the complexities and nuances of the CISO role in today's dynamic cyber landscape.____________________________Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube ChannelRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

Guest: Kayla Williams, CISO of Devo Inc. [@devo_Inc] and co-host of the Locked Down Podcast [@LockedDownKT]On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/kaylamwilliams1/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/kayla_obviouslyOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/kayla-williams____________________________Hosts: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martinMarco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli____________________________Episode NotesIn this episode, hosts Marco and Sean are joined by Kayla Williams, CISO for Devo Technology, to discuss the upcoming SOC Analyst Appreciation Day. The conversation covers various sessions that will be part of the event, including topics such as mental health, a day in the life of a SOC analyst, and the impact of AI and automation. They emphasize the need for empathy and understanding when it comes to mental health, highlighting the importance of recognizing signs of distress and offering support. They also discuss the challenges faced by SOC analysts, such as burnout and the lack of recognition, and stress the need for better communication and collaboration within the industry.The CISO panel that will be part of the event, titled "CISOs in the Hot Seat," sparks curiosity about the discussion topics, with hopes that people management and understanding the mental health of teams will be addressed. The session on AI and automation raises questions about whether it will make the life of SOC analysts easier or increase the threat landscape. There is tons of excitement from Sean and Marco about hosting the "Day in the Life of a SOC Analyst" panel, where they aim to explore the daily struggles and experiences of analysts. They underscore the importance of appreciation and recognition within the industry, as indicated by statistics showing that many analysts are seeking a way out of their roles.____________________________Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube ChannelRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

Guest: Marc Steen, Senior Research Scientist at TNO [@TNO_nieuws]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcsteen/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/marcsteenOn Mastodon | https://mastodon.social/@marcsteenWebsite | https://marcsteen.nl/index.html____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

Guest | Dr. Rebecca Charbonneau, Karl Jansky Fellow, National Radio Astronomy Observatory [@TheNRAO]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/StellarHistoryOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebecca-charbonneau-31090aa1/On Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/rebeccaannecharbonneauHost | Matthew S WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine  

Join us for this fictional story as we take a 10-year journey into the future, exploring the evolving challenges and opportunities facing two CISOs—Emma and Harper—today, and a decade from now.________This fictional story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn.Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE3________Sean Martin is the host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. Visit Sean on his personal website.TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.

This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to the "Musing On Society & Technology" newsletter on LinkedIn.Sincerely, Marco Ciappelli and TAPE3________Marco Ciappelli is the host of the Redefining Society Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Sean Martin—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. Visit Marco on his personal website.TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.

Guest: Wayne Haber, Director of Engineering at GitLab [@gitlab]On LinkedIn | https://linkedin.com/in/waynehaberWebsite | https://www.waynehaber.com/________________________________Hosts:Ben SchmerlerOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Matthew Rosenquist, Chief Information Security Officer at Eclipz.io Inc. [@Eclipzinc]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/Matt_RosenquistOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewrosenquistOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/c/CybersecurityInsights________________________________Host: Dr. Rebecca WynnOn ITSPmagazine  

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Guests: Deborah Thomson, Founder and CEO at One Health Lessons [@OneHealthLesson]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/dr-deborah-thomson-dvmAllison A. Sakara, Executive Director, High Alert Institute [@High-Alert-Inst]On ITSPmagazine | http://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/allison-a-sakaraDr. Maurice A Ramirez, Founder and President, High Alert Institute [@High-Alert-Inst]On ITSPmagazine | http://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/dr-maurice-a-ramirez____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

A cautionary tale and a call to action for the digital age as we reimagine—perhaps even redefine—the relationship between technology and talent in cybersecurity.________This fictional story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn.Sincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE3________Sean Martin is the host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, part of the ITSPmagazine Podcast Network—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli—where you may just find some of these topics being discussed. Visit Sean on his personal website.TAPE3 is the Artificial Intelligence for ITSPmagazine, created to function as a guide, writing assistant, researcher, and brainstorming partner to those who adventure at and beyond the Intersection Of Technology, Cybersecurity, And Society. Visit TAPE3 on ITSPmagazine.

Guest: Grant Ongers, Chair Global Board of Directors at OWASP Foundation | CTO at Secure Delivery [@SecureDelivery]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/rewtdOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/rewtd/Host: Josh MasonOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: David Hunt, CTO at PreludeOn Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-hunt-b72864200/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/privateducky____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Pentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a___________________________Episode NotesIn this episode of Redefining Cybersecurity, host Sean Martin engages in a thought-provoking conversation with David Hunt, author of the book, Irreducibly Complex Systems: An Introduction to Continuous Security Testing, to explore the topic presented in the book.David introduces the concept of irreducibly complex systems, explaining that continuous security testing requires a system where all the individual components must be functioning correctly for the system to work. He uses the analogy of a mousetrap to illustrate this idea, highlighting that removing even one component renders the entire system useless.The conversation also digs into the challenges of testing in changing environments and the need to understand how defenses perform during specific time frames. They discuss the value of continuous security testing in gaining visibility into the effectiveness of security defenses and shedding light on techniques used by malicious actors.Sean, having been a software quality assurance engineer in previous roles, and David, having held numerous roles in the commercial, public, and non-profit realms, explore the differences between continuous security testing and traditional security testing. They explain that continuous testing focuses on evaluating how defenses respond to attacks, rather than testing offensive capabilities. Moreover, continuous security testing operates at complete scale on production systems, unlike traditional testing which is often limited to development environments.They also discuss the importance of overcoming the dichotomy of skill sets required for continuous security testing. David explains that the offensive skills needed to create effective tests and attacks are often separate from the software skills needed to build a safe, high-assurance command and control center.Throughout the episode, Sean and David provide listeners with valuable insights into the world of continuous security testing and its significance in the evolving cybersecurity landscape. They emphasize the need for organizations to adopt this approach in order to gain better visibility and understanding of their defenses in the face of emerging threats.There's a lot to take from this conversation, including an extreme example of how continuous security testing results have redefined cybersecurity in David's organization.____________________________About the bookContinuous security testing (CST) is a new strategy for validating your cyber defenses. We buy security products that promise to protect us, like EDR, but how do we know they're working? CST takes the stance that endpoints are the center of your infrastructure universe. Whether the operating system verticalizes defense or a third party is bolted on, it is the job of the endpoint to protect itself from within. This new concept dictates testing should occur around the clock, in production and at scale. It provides an open model that others can use to approach testing and finally answer the question: Do you know with certainty that your defenses will protect you against the latest threats?____________________________Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube ChannelRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

Host | Matthew S WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Bill Raduchel, AuthorOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/wjraduchel/____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

Guest: Jessica Bishop, SOC Analyst II, Ideal IntegrationsOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessica-bishop-%F0%9F%A7%AD-262729b4/Hosts:Jax ScottOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Bryson Bort, CEO and Founder of Scythe [@scythe_io]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/brysonbortOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/brysonbort/________________________________Hosts:Kayla WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/kayla-williamsTaylor ParsonsOn ITSPmagazine | https://itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/taylor-parsons________________________________This Episode's SponsorsAre you interested in sponsoring an ITSPmagazine Channel?

Guest: Dr. Bruce Y Lee, Executive Director of PHICOR (Public Health Informatics, Computational, and Operations Research) [@PHICORteam]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruce-y-lee-68a6834/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/bruce_y_leeWebsite | https://www.bruceylee.com/On Forbes | https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/On Psychology Today | https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/contributors/bruce-y-lee-md-mba_____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

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Guest: Bryan Kissinger, SVP & Chief Information Security Officer at Trace3 [@trace3]On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryan-kissinger-phd-0b75245/________________________________Host: Dr. Rebecca WynnOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Ryan Barnett, Sr Engineering Manager at FORT Robotics On LinkedIn | https://linkedin.com/in/ryan-barnett3On YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCTrL-nZBCf7dA5RNoVV57ig________________________________Hosts:Ben SchmerlerOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Tom McVey, Solutions Architect at Menlo Security [@menlosecurity]On LinkedIn | https://uk.linkedin.com/in/thomas-mcveyHost: Chloé MessdaghiOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Sue Bergamo, Executive Advisor/CISO/CIO at BTE Partners, LLCOn Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/suebergamo/On Twitter | https://www.twitter.com/@suebergamoOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com@suebergamo____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Pentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a___________________________Episode NotesIn this episode of Redefining CyberSecurity, host Sean Martin engages in a conversation with guest Sue Bergamo about the dynamics and responsibilities of cybersecurity leadership. They discuss, compare, and contrast the roles of the CISO, CIO, and CTO in an organization and the handoff of tasks and responsibilities between them.Sue emphasizes the need for a holistic approach to security, with the CISO responsible for protecting the inner workings of the company and its data. They explore the challenges of hiring in the cybersecurity field and the impact of the current economic climate. Sue cautions against a siloed approach to security and advocates for a well-rounded security program. They discuss the importance of consistency and structure in change control and release management processes to prevent issues and vulnerabilities. They also emphasize the role of the CISO as a trusted advisor, communicator, and educator within the organization. They touch on the maturity level of cybersecurity programs and the need for organizations to embrace business-level conversations to reduce risk and exposure. Sue addresses the current state of the industry, highlighting the challenges faced by CISOs and security teams. She suggests that a calm and collected approach is a sign of a well-functioning security program. This, however, could leave the rest of the organization questioning their investment in cybersecurity. To this end, they discuss the importance of implementing controls and processes to create structure, improve security posture, and demonstrate this to the business leaders and key stakeholders.Overall, the episode provides valuable insights into the evolving role of the CISO and the importance of a holistic approach to cybersecurity. The conversation is informative, thoughtful, and thought-provoking, without sensationalizing the content or adopting a journalistic tone.Listeners can expect to gain insights into the complex dynamics of cybersecurity leadership and the challenges faced by organizations in the current landscape. Have a listen!____________________________Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube ChannelRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

Guest: Dr. Ryan Ko, Professor of Cybersecurity, University of Queensland [@UQ_News]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/ryan_kl_koOn LinkedIn |https://www.linkedin.com/in/ryan-ko-38894824/________________________________Host: Mansi ThakarOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: William Wu, CEO at Artisse [@artisseai]On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/william-wu/____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

Host | Matthew S WilliamsOn ITSPmagazine  

Guests: Josh Mason, Host of Loops and LifecyclesOn ITSPmagazine 

Guest: Olivia Gambelin, Founder and CEO, Ethical Intelligence [@ethicalai_co]On Twitter | https://twitter.com/oliviagambelinOn LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/oliviagambelin/Host: Dr. Kevin MacnishOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Devorah Heitner, AuthorOn Twitter | https://twitter.com/DevorahHeitnerWebsite | https://devorahheitner.com/On TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@devorahheitner1On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/devorahheitnerphd/____________________________Host: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining Society PodcastOn ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/marco-ciappelli_____________________________This Episode's SponsorsBlackCloak

Guest: Trond Arne Undheim, Founder of Yegii [@Yegii_Insight] and Research Scholar in Global Systemic Risk, Innovation, and Policy at Stanford University [@Stanford].On Linkedin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/undheim/On Twitter | https://twitter.com/trondauWebsite | https://trondundheim.com/On Facebook| https://www.facebook.com/trond.undheim/On Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/trondundheim/?hl=enOn YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCI4EpjuQzb58EiawzElwvYQ____________________________Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine [@ITSPmagazine] and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast [@RedefiningCyber]On ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/itspmagazine-podcast-radio-hosts/sean-martin____________________________This Episode's SponsorsImperva | https://itspm.ag/imperva277117988Pentera | https://itspm.ag/penteri67a___________________________Episode NotesIn this thought-provoking episode of the Redefining CyberSecurity podcast, host Sean Martin is joined by futurist, Trond Arne Undheim, as they engage in a deep conversation about the intersection of technology, innovation, and risk management. Trond offers deep insights into the world of risk and the need for new paradigms to address emerging challenges.The conversation starts with a discussion on the importance of systematic feedback and validation-driven strategies in fostering innovation. Sean and Trond highlight the positive aspects of risk information, emphasizing that it can help save resources by redirecting efforts towards more viable avenues.Sean and Trond explore the notion of systems thinking and the challenges it presents. They explain that when we describe something as a "system," it implies that it is something we cannot fully control, but rather something we are amidst. They also touch on the concept of cascading risks, highlighting the potential dangers of multiple risks working together.The conversation shifts to the role of organizations in managing risk. Sean and Trond acknowledge the complexity and short-term focus of many risk management approaches and express the need for new institutions (non-profit, government, etc.) and companies (commercial product/service providers, for example) to address this gap. They mention the rise of industries focused on specific risk areas, such as cybersecurity and ESG risk, and predict that more industries will emerge to provide risk management services. Sean and Trond also explore the idea that a higher level of risk can spur innovation, but caution against irresponsible risk-taking. They stress the importance of finding a balance between risk and innovation.Join Sean and Trond for an engaging conversation rooted in philosophical discussion about the future of technology, the potential risks posed by emerging technologies like AI and bio-risks, and the impact of risk management on society. This episode of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast helps to navigate the challenging landscape of technology and risk. We hope you enjoy it!____________________________Watch this and other videos on ITSPmagazine's YouTube ChannelRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast with Sean Martin, CISSP playlist:

Guest: Karlin Clayton, On LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlin-clayton-live-to-learn/Hosts:Jax ScottOn ITSPmagazine  

Guest: Simon Hodgkinson, Strategic Adviser at Semperis [@SemperisTech]Host: Chloé MessdaghiOn ITSPmagazine