Podcasts about Vivid Entertainment

Neste episódio nós falamos sobre os capítulos 2 e 3 do livro "Pornland”, onde a autora Gail Dines analisa exemplos de produtos midiáticos que fizeram com que a pornografia se tornasse mainstream e também explica quais indústrias lucram com os vídeos pornôs. Segundo a autora, a série Girls Gone Wild, os filmes da Vivid Entertainment e a publicidade feita pela atriz Jenna Jameson são exemplos de produtos que integraram a pornografia à cultura pop. Assim, ela analisa como eles fizeram a pornografia se tornar mais palatável ao público. Dines também exemplifica como outras indústrias estão conectadas com a pornografia, mostrando como se trata de uma grande rede capitalista e desmistificando a ideia de que a pornografia seria um produto revolucionário e independente. Ficou com vontade de saber mais sobre a história da indústria pornográfica? Conheça o nosso curso "feminismo antipornografia: da segunda onda ao onlyfans" Nos siga no instagram para ficar por dentro de todas as novidades!

On this episode of A Slice of Doom Scagz and Jimbo get into the core meaning of the Met Gala. Later in the episode we talk about Ray J's allegations about Kris Jenner selling Kim Kardashians personal sex tape to Vivid Entertainment. Enjoy the show! INSTAGRAM: @THELASTSLICESHOW LINKTREE.COM/THELASTSLICEPODCAST LINKTREE.COM/TWODOOMEDMEN

En el quinto episodio de #MásAlláDeLoEvidente, Natalia Ames analiza aspectos audiovisuales y el impacto en la cultura popular del sextape "Kim Kardashian: Superstar". El video fue lanzado para su venta en formatos físicos y digitales por Vivid Entertainment en 2007, luego de llegar a un acuerdo con Kim Kardashian y su ex pareja Ray J.

New Line November continues! After surviving Hell, co-hosts Justin Gerber and Mike Vanderbilt hit the launchpad to join fellow co-hosts Michael Roffman and McKenzie Gerber for an interstellar debate on the merits of 2002's Jason X. From frozen heads to Vivid Entertainment, nothing is left off the operating table. So, grab your your space helmet and listen above. Follow us on Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Podchaser | Patreon --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app · Ever With Jaleel White Show Promotion: In his debut podcast Ever After, Jaleel White most famous for his portrayal of the irksome 90’s uber-nerd Steve Urkel, on ABC’s smash hit Family Matters, deconstructs child stardom with rare insight and empathy https://open.spotify.com/show/505LmqAFfiFIcVVQ1VF7RX?si=8BVv4gsdS3KnJvFNPD27JA

Kail and Lindsie catch up after travel and sickness that hit both their families. Kail can't remember if she's met Mackenzie, but remembers a spat about a porn scandal with Vivid Entertainment. They talk with Mackenzie about the drama when they joined the show. Mackenzie tells us how MTV cut ties with the Teen Mom 3 girls & how she recently wrapped something with MTV! Is she going to be on Teen Mom OG? Listen for the scoop! Mackenzie gives us an update on her mom's cancer and an update on her "beef" with Briana.You don't want to miss this one! For a free month of Premium Picniic, the awesome app that will get you totally organized, go to picniic.com/getstarted and use code PODPIC!

Kail and Lindsie catch up after travel and sickness that hit both their families. Kail can't remember if she’s met Mackenzie, but remembers a spat about a porn scandal with Vivid Entertainment. They talk with Mackenzie about the drama when they joined the show. Mackenzie tells us how MTV cut ties with the Teen Mom 3 girls & how she recently wrapped something with MTV! Is she going to be on Teen Mom OG? Listen for the scoop! Mackenzie gives us an update on her mom's cancer and an update on her “beef” with Briana.You don’t want to miss this one! For a free month of Premium Picniic, the awesome app that will get you totally organized, go to picniic.com/getstarted and use code PODPIC!

This week on the podcast we’ve got interviews with a couple of adult industry superstars, Kelly Holland & Mr. Marcus! Kelly got her start as a director for Vivid Entertainment, and later went on to become the CEO and owner of Penthouse Global Media. Mr. Marcus has starred in nearly 2000 adult titles and worked with some of the hottest porn performers in the biz!

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BHL: Justice Is Served - In this episode Black Hollywood Live hosts Mari Fagel, Loni Coombs, and Rahwa Ghebre-Ab, discuss legal cases for the week of April 11th, 2014. Mari opens up with this weeks 'Case Of The Week' by talking about Oscar Pistorius takes the stand. They then switch to talk about this weeks 'On The Docket' cases by discussing Katherine Heigl vs. Duane Reade, Joe and Teresa Guidice, Farrah Abraham vs. Vivid Entertainment, and the U.S. Supreme Court rejects an appeal from a studio that refused to photograph a lesbian couple's commitment ceremony. They wrap things up with the "Tipping Scales" Is there a double standard btw male and female rapists?

Steve Cooper talks with Rocker/Comic Phil Varone. Phil makes his return to CooperTalk. He was the Drummer for Saigon Kick and Skid Row and has also appeared on VH1's Dr. Drew's Celebrity Sex Rehab. He also has a dvd for Vivid Entertainment called Phil Varone's Secret Sex Stash and has a line of adult toys molded after him called Dr. Philgood.

  There is a lot of misinformation about anal sex out there. In order to enter through the back door, it is important to have good information, good lube and a lot of patience & understanding about sex, your partner and yourself. Tristan Taormino joins Mou to deliver the goods on anal sex. ... Be sure to tune in!   Guest Bio Information: TRISTAN TAORMINO is an award-winning author, columnist, editor, and sex educator. She is the author of 7 books: including Secrets of Female Ejaculation and Great G-Spot Orgasms; Opening Up: A Guide to Creating and Sustaining Open Relationships; and The Ultimate Guide to Anal Sex for Women. Tristan was the winner of a Firecracker Book Award and named Amazon.com’s #1 Bestseller in Women's Sex Instruction in 1998. She is series creator and founding editor of 18 volumes of the Lambda Literary Award-winning anthology Best Lesbian Erotica, an annual anthology, for which she's collaborated with many well known feminist and erotica writers. She runs her own adult film production company, Smart Ass Productions, and is currently an exclusive director for Vivid Entertainment. She writes an advice column for Taboo Magazine. Tristan has been featured in over 200 publications, has appeared on over 4 dozen radio and talk shows. She lectures at top universities. For full resumewww.puckerup.com.  

In this issue: Dinosaurs, Cadillacs, and Hellboy in Mexico! Plus, boobs and wieners talking about boob and wieners. NEWS Star Wars cast available on TomTom GPS LINKAGE Rise of the Apes LINKAGE HTML Comics taken down by FBI and publishers LINKAGE REVIEWS Stephen Hellboy in Mexico (4 Slices of Meatloaf) Writer: Mike Mignola Artist: Richard Corben Colorist: Dave Stewart Cover Artist: Mike Mignola During the 1950s, Hellboy caravans across Mexico with a trio of vampire-killing luchadores, finding the undead; evil turkeys; a terrible bat god; and a little too much tequila. Rodrigo CARS #5 (4 Slices of Meatloaf)
Written by Alan J. Porter
Drawn by Allen Gladfelter
SC, 24pgs, FC, SRP: $2.99
COVER A & B: Allen Gladfelter
Diamond Code: FEB100765 Lightning McQueen is going all out to win the Route 66 Dash, a cross country, Cannonball Run-style race! But with his partner, Mater, slowing him down, how can he hope to best Chick Hicks and his partner, the Drift King? Matthew IRREDEEMABLE #13 (3.5 Slices of Meatloaf)
Written by Mark Waid
Drawn by Diego Barreto
SC, 24 pgs, FC, SRP: $3.99
COVER A: Paul Azaceta
COVER B: Chris Cross
Diamond Code: MAR100797 The members of the Paradigm are held captive, helpless to prevent Modeus from manipulating Plutonian into his greatest act of evil yet. The second year of Mark Waid’s epic begins a new story arc and steamrolls into uncharted waters never before seen in the superhero genre. Nothing will ever be the same in a post-Plutonian world. Covers by Paul Azaceta and CrissCross. MAJOR SPOILERS POLL OF THE WEEK A lot of media attention has been cast on Vivid Entertainment over the last couple of months as the word is spreading that the company is set to release an adult movie parodying the 1960s Batman television series.  The buzz surrounding the release has prompted Vivid Entertainment to create a new imprint called Vivid Superheroes where they plan to continue the superhero porn parodies of characters in both the DC and Marvel catalog. With Batman XXX: A Porn Parody set to arrive this month, it leads us to the Major Spoilers Poll of the Week: Do you want to see pornographic parodies of your favorite comic book superhero? YES! I want to see my heroes in and out of costume NO! Let's keep some things pure and just let comic artists deliver the titillating images NO OPINION! I'm not interested in watching, but not bothered by it, either VOTE MAJOR SPOILERS DISCUSSION: Xenozoic Tales Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 In the storyline, the Earth has been ravaged by pollution and natural disasters of all sorts. To escape this, humanity built vast underground cities in which they lived for approximately 600 years. Upon emerging, the humans found that the world had been reclaimed by previously extinct lifeforms (most spectacularly, dinosaurs). In the new ‘Xenozoic’ era, technology is extremely limited and those with mechanical skills command a great deal of respect and influence. Contact us at podcast@majorspoilers.com Music from this episode comes from Armin Brewer (intro) and James Kennison (closing) from the Nobody's Listening Podcast. A big thanks to both of these guys for creating kick-ass music for the show! A big Thank You goes out to everyone who downloads, subscribes, listens, and supports this show. We really appreciate you taking the time to listen to our ramblings each week. Tell your friends about the podcast, get them to subscribe and, be sure to visit the Major Spoilers site and forums.

In this issue: Dinosaurs, Cadillacs, and Hellboy in Mexico! Plus, boobs and wieners talking about boob and wieners. NEWS Star Wars cast available on TomTom GPS LINKAGE Rise of the Apes LINKAGE HTML Comics taken down by FBI and publishers LINKAGE REVIEWS Stephen Hellboy in Mexico (4 Slices of Meatloaf) Writer: Mike Mignola Artist: Richard Corben Colorist: Dave Stewart Cover Artist: Mike Mignola During the 1950s, Hellboy caravans across Mexico with a trio of vampire-killing luchadores, finding the undead; evil turkeys; a terrible bat god; and a little too much tequila. Rodrigo CARS #5 (4 Slices of Meatloaf)
 Written by Alan J. Porter
 Drawn by Allen Gladfelter
 SC, 24pgs, FC, SRP: $2.99
 COVER A & B: Allen Gladfelter
 Diamond Code: FEB100765 Lightning McQueen is going all out to win the Route 66 Dash, a cross country, Cannonball Run-style race! But with his partner, Mater, slowing him down, how can he hope to best Chick Hicks and his partner, the Drift King? Matthew IRREDEEMABLE #13 (3.5 Slices of Meatloaf)
 Written by Mark Waid
 Drawn by Diego Barreto
 SC, 24 pgs, FC, SRP: $3.99
 COVER A: Paul Azaceta
 COVER B: Chris Cross
 Diamond Code: MAR100797 The members of the Paradigm are held captive, helpless to prevent Modeus from manipulating Plutonian into his greatest act of evil yet. The second year of Mark Waid’s epic begins a new story arc and steamrolls into uncharted waters never before seen in the superhero genre. Nothing will ever be the same in a post-Plutonian world. Covers by Paul Azaceta and CrissCross. MAJOR SPOILERS POLL OF THE WEEK A lot of media attention has been cast on Vivid Entertainment over the last couple of months as the word is spreading that the company is set to release an adult movie parodying the 1960s Batman television series.  The buzz surrounding the release has prompted Vivid Entertainment to create a new imprint called Vivid Superheroes where they plan to continue the superhero porn parodies of characters in both the DC and Marvel catalog. With Batman XXX: A Porn Parody set to arrive this month, it leads us to the Major Spoilers Poll of the Week: Do you want to see pornographic parodies of your favorite comic book superhero? YES! I want to see my heroes in and out of costume NO! Let's keep some things pure and just let comic artists deliver the titillating images NO OPINION! I'm not interested in watching, but not bothered by it, either VOTE MAJOR SPOILERS DISCUSSION: Xenozoic Tales Vol. 1 and Vol. 2 In the storyline, the Earth has been ravaged by pollution and natural disasters of all sorts. To escape this, humanity built vast underground cities in which they lived for approximately 600 years. Upon emerging, the humans found that the world had been reclaimed by previously extinct lifeforms (most spectacularly, dinosaurs). In the new ‘Xenozoic’ era, technology is extremely limited and those with mechanical skills command a great deal of respect and influence. Contact us at podcast@majorspoilers.com Music from this episode comes from Armin Brewer (intro) and James Kennison (closing) from the Nobody's Listening Podcast. A big thanks to both of these guys for creating kick-ass music for the show! A big Thank You goes out to everyone who downloads, subscribes, listens, and supports this show. We really appreciate you taking the time to listen to our ramblings each week. Tell your friends about the podcast, get them to subscribe and, be sure to visit the Major Spoilers site and forums.

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McCarty's new Direct-to-DVD adult film Flawless: From Beauty Queen to Porn Queen is on sale now from Vivid Entertainment. From TMZ, to Perez Hilton, to Entertaiment Tonight, everyone in Hollywood was talking about McCarty. On today's episode of the Daytime Confidential podcast, McCarty reveals all about her controversial career move to Luke and Jamey.McCarty talks with DC about what led to her embarking on such an uncharted career path. She tells how she pitched the idea for Flawless, and served as a co-writer on the project. McCarty explains why she strove to make Flawless the type of adult film that appeals to women, as well as men. She admits to being nervous about how her new venture will be perceived. Will her Passions fans be receptive to Flawless? Did the current state of the U.S. economy and lack of roles for actors facing a streamlined pilot season and a potential SAG Strike play a factor in her decision to do porn? Most importantly, what would Passions' Edna (Kathleen Noone) have to say?The soap vet shares her brief encounters with late Passions creator James E. Reilly, and weighs in on the poignance of Passions being cancelled shortly before his death. Is McCarty still in touch with any of her daytime costars like Galen Gering or McKenzie Westmore, both of whom have returned to soaps, if so, what are their thoughts on Flawless? Is McCarty afraid her adult film turn will prevent a possible return to daytime in the future? Her answers might surprise you.The Miss USA 1991 then offers her perspect on the pageant mom phenomenon, made notorious by the Jon Benet Ramsey Case, as well as movies like Little Miss Sunshine and the upcoming WE reality show Little Miss Perfect. Finally, McCarty talks about her stint tonight, hosting ACME this Week, the popular sketch comedy show, that has boasted Ilene Kristen, Bryan Datillo, Tichina Arnold (Everybody Hates Chris) and Arianne Zucker as recent hosts. Will McCarty spoof her soap career? Her pageant career? Her porn career? All of the above? It's an interview you won't want to miss. Then for those of you in Los Angeles, head on over to Acme Comedy Theatre, located at 135 N La Brea Avenue, L.A., 90036, at 8 pm to catch the show.

There is some exciting news on the business end of the podcast, and Lauren and Chan are thrilled to join 58 Ember as their new podcasting network! Lauren talks her newfound love for TikTok, and why its users are a unique brand of unhinged. Hear some of their favorite comments from their TikTok videos. The gals also give an assessment on a review that calls them Pick Me Girls and even break out Urban Dictionary to consider the accusation. They then discuss the inception of Kim Kardashian's launch into fame with supporting players Ray J and Kris Jenner. The narrative accepted by many versus the alleged facts are very different and darker than they originally thought. Lauren & Chan also break down Kanye West's problematic, misogynistic 46th birthday party, and Chan gives her family friendly hopes for his next birthday celebration. Finally, hear all their thoughts on Tom Girardi's mental competence and Erica's role in the deceit. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone!To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here!Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.TRANSCRIPT: [00:00:00] Before weget into theepisode, everyone. I just need toput a quick plug in here. If you like our podcast, if you, you know, have liked all the 166 episodes before this one. Please do us a favor, share it on your story.Post a link to your favorite episode using the little link button on Instagram. shout us out.We trulyappreciate it. It really helps us grow and getsthe word out aboutPops.So if you do that, we will be forever grateful to you.Follow us on YouTube, follow us on TikTok. and let's get to the episode. well, well, well, good morning, Lauren. Welcome to episode 1 67. Wow, we've done too many of these. Um, I don't know why I felt the need to say the number, but sometimes it's, it's grounding, you know, it, it's validating to know that we've done [00:01:00] 167 episodes of pops.On there you are aging us. First of all, how I know, Second of all, yeah, 160. This is our hundred 67th episode. Actually, it's probably more like our 350th episode because we also, everyone, not sure if you've heard about it, but we do a Paton episode every Friday. Sowe've been doing this for a while.Quite a while. but you know, even the hundred 67th time or whatever, 300th time feels like the first time, soNever gets old chatting with you, sis. Never. Um, we have big news to share. Super exciting. Okay, here's the deal everyone. We're really excited because today we are announcing that we are joining a network.we are joining 58 Ember. 58. Ember is a new network. They're, and we are really excited to be partnering with them. should we share like how this started, Chandler?Yeah, let's just give a, a little bit of a, a background. we were with a previous network a year ago, [00:02:00] um, andthen we a year ago. Yeah.Part ways. Um, but then 58 Ember approached us and yeah. Lauren, you can take it from there.Yeah. So basically we were with the network, and they were great, but we ultimately decided that we wanted. To be part of a platform called Red Circle. That's where we moved to. because it was a little more self-service, it allowed us to handle our ads in a more efficient way. and it just was a little more seamless, a little more efficient.And so we were with Red Circle. We loved Red Circle. Everything was going along swimmingly and we didn't think we needed to be with a network at all. But we got approached by 58 Ember, by the founders. They're two really, really smart women, Erica and Emily. Um, and they have a whole different approach to podcast networks, and I was very taken with their mission.Their mission is to have a podcast network that truly fosters community and embraces the network and podcast network. and also a network that [00:03:00] really focuses on helping creators grow through being strategic through, meaningful brand partnerships. And what I, saw in their presentation was something that's really not available.In traditional podcast networks right now, traditional podcast networks, the brass tack of it is they're really good at monetizing audiences that are already built, but they're not necessarily focused on helping smaller creators build audiences. Um, and so anyway, there's definitely a white space in the market and 58 Ember is absolutely going to fill it.And so we are really, really honored to be a podcast on their platform and on their network. and we're really excited to join.Yeah. some exciting updates on the business end of pops, but you know, should we get into why everyone tuned in today for the hundred 67th episode?Should we get to it?galvanization by the app Tick talk.Okay, let me, let me start with a small disclosure that I've been making to friends and loved ones recently. [00:04:00] I've been saying to people before I see friends or anybody in group texts, across group texts. Hey, for what it's worth, it's okay to mute, pop apologies as we begin to go full steam on on the social channelsbecause. I just was like, Ijust need toput this out there. You know, for anyone who's like, who sees me on a frequent basis, like maybe they don't wanna also see eight videos from me, you know, every time they open up their phone or from you, no offense to you. Um, soyes, youmay have noticed that we are now full steam on TikTok.On Instagram, that is because we are trying to grow and wanting to, you know, create that short form content that people are loving these days. so anyways, I, I have been making that disclosure to friends and family. Like I've said that to multiple people. Just like, it's okay if you have to mute me. I would mute me.It's fine.Oh, absolutely. I mean, here's the thing. The fact that we do not want to forever toil away an obscurity should not mean that our friends and family should [00:05:00] suffer the wrath of our constant content. Okay? Um, and so I absolutely agree with you.there's something about opening up my TikTok and then seeing your face and hearing a hot take coming from you. That has been very hard for me and I, I'm like, it's funny cuz I, I love it. I, this is something we've been needingOh really? Do you? I love it for the business side of things. And I love it for our platform because we really do like, have so much good content that like, I wanna share you know, in little reels and stuff.But, you know, it's been a little bit jarring for me and I've been like, okay, like squa swipe. I can't see Lauren's face every time I open up TikTok. But I love it and it's very good for us and we're going to keep, chugging forward.Well, the thing that I didn't realize, Chandler, about TikTok that I'm very excited about. Also, we're on YouTube now, everyone full episodes or on video on YouTube every week. If you wanna watch mine and Chandler's facial expressions as we are chatting, um, and see our fits, you can hit up our YouTube. here's what I didn't know about [00:06:00] TikTok, okay?About the app. that originated in China. Parent company, bite dance, otherwise known more prominently as TikTok. So TikTok. I didn't truly realize how powerful it is as a creator Meanwhile, I'm on Instagram and I am posting all this content, doing stories. All of it could just be a TikTok reel And right now our Instagram. Love it. I love chatting with people. It's great, but really it's basically talking to the same people over and over. And if for us to have this podcast succeed, we need to reach more people. and it's been galvanizing for me as a human being to see that I can do the same, performance art that I'm engaging in.Certainly a performance.just kidding. Uh, I can do the same shtick and nonsense on Yeah. And TikTok somehow doesn't care that we only have [00:07:00] a hundred followers or 120 followers. It will, if it sees people liking the video, spin it up to the masses. And that is just not something that's possible on our current platform that we've been using.Mostly she'll remain nameless. so anyway,yeah.it's Yeah, yeah. No, it's been great. I think, yeah, I, you've just been doing such a good job, so I just wanna say, you know, thank you on the airwaves and publicly declare my thanksOh, thanks. Can I also say Chandler, how I A what?let me continue one more with my,thank you. Yeah, sorry. Sorry. add. No, Lauren. I say thank you because I think you are truly very, very good at this type of thing. You, I don't wanna say you're shameless, but I think you are just better, and we've always known this. You're just better at like hopping on, you know?Turning on that front facing camera, hitting your cord, and just like killing it. Like, it's truly like a talent for like this type of performance. And like [00:08:00] I, I think without that ability, we would not be where we are. So I just, I really think you're meant for this kind of thing and I, you know, I'm gonna, I'm gonna continue myjourneyof getting better atit.Well, that's really nice of you. I mean, we were at Blackberry Farm and Courtney was giving me this compliment that I'm very fierce and our dear friend, Maron was, you know, echoing that sentiment. And I said, it's not that I'm fierce, it's that I love the truth and I want the truth to get to people, you know, with, uh, fire in my eyes.AndWyatt patted me on the back, kind of laughed and said, that's part of your delusion. You know, but that's why we love you.  I love that Lauren has spun this compliment about her performance art into like how she's like Joan of Arc or something.Likeit really is partof your delusion and that's what makes you so great at it.The self aggrandizement is truly flooring. so thank you Chandler. I will continue to be a champion of truth, honor, TikTok and other social platforms. Um, but I wanna sh [00:09:00] share with you, another reason why I love TikTok, okay?Okay.The people are truly unhinged onYeah, it's true.I didn't realize.I didn't know Chandler. I thought that it's the same type of conversation happening over there. It's like Twitter degenerates are commenting on TikTok. It is like the worst of YouTube all together. It is four chan created a social media company.I honestly, yeah, I, I sometimes love just perusing the TikTok comments because it's like from another realm, like where the, it'salmost. Liketoo insane to even be bots. yeah, it's, it's really good. And it feels like they're not even really connected to like, people, they're just like usernames.that's the reason people are posting anonymous So they're posting what they really think. I think that's a big part of it. Like a non culture is bigger on TikTok than it is on Instagram. can I just read you a few hilarious unhinged comments that we've received [00:10:00] on our video that's going by that I don't know if it's going viral, but it's really, um,um,we have one video that's really spun up right now anyway, so in the beginning of the video, it's the video where we ask the question, the rhetorical question.How could anyone cheat on someone as beautiful and smart and talented as Natalie Portman? Mm-hmm. a rhetorical question we go on to illustrate the fact that it has nothing to do with her physical or otherwise attributes. Anyway, that doesn't stop people from jumping down our throats and not watching till the end of the video anyway.So to answer that question, hear are what a few people say. So, a woman named Lumira says, easy. The fantasy was over once the movie was done. Okay. Um, cutting.It's kind of beautiful writing.Miss Cat 77 67 says, when a man marries a mistress, it creates a vacancy.Oh my gosh.That's a co that's, that's a zenko. Sosh said, okay, and this gives me the chills cause I know that some of my people are on TikTok.she says, [00:11:00] should have known I'd be the first to leave. Think about the place where you first met me. I mean, she's quoting,she's the prophet of our time. profit of our time. Julius C says, beauty is temporary and charm is fleeting, but a woman who fears the Lord is to be praised. Okay? I love a little religion. I love a You do you love a little religion sprinkled in a littlebit ofreligious self-righteousness. You can't get enough.I cannot get enough. So we're gonna continue in that vein. Twan writes, Solomon had a thousand women and still wasn't satisfied. This, this is men.This is men. This is men. I'm getting that tattooed. This is men.I responded, Towan, and I said, you're right, Twan. Most men need 1,001. Which I thought was hilarious. Um, if I do say so by myself, and then Twan says [00:12:00] men need what Ecclesiastes says in the end. anyway, there's a cute back and forth if anyone wants to go find it. I A cute biblical back and forth.yeah, between me and Twan, where we actually connect and agree.I'm not gonna, I won't, you know, I won't belabor it. I'm sure that madeyou know the Serena joy in you all tingly no, literally, wan and I are like, Fist bump at the end of the conversation. Like we, we get each other. wan understands. Okay, so, a guy named at John Jung says, I for one get bored one to two years in. And that's long constant change gets my little guy sturdy, eggplant emoji.OhSo sorry, that's a departure.yeah. and then finally, Someone commented, so she started dating an unavailable man. Now she's surprised he cheated. I guess you can buy a Harvard diploma.so the people on TikTok are unafraid and completely unhinged, and it is my new happy place and home.[00:13:00] Okay, great.Congratulations. Enjoy.Thank you. Speaking of unhinged people, can we please, please, Chandler respond to the accusationOhmy gosh. I mean, at us?I don't know how unhinged this person was. Seemed like they were pretty hinged.Um, yeah, this person actually might be telling exactly the truth, which I want to talk with you about. Cause I don't know if they don't get us or if they get us too much. You know, if they can see very clearly what's happening here.I fear it might be the latter. Okay. Solet's read what we're talking aboutyeah, let's read this, this, this is a, unfortunately, a recent review. We got, from t Kitty h she left this on June 8th. He or she, excuse me,he, she ortheyone star, the subject line. Holy pick me girl.Pickme girl energy so hard. These girls are desperate.That's it. No, no. Period. That's it. It's like he,she, or they basically trail [00:14:00] off. They can't even, you know, write anything else. They're so frustrated.Yes. okay, so the last part of that review, that these girls are so desperate. Absolutely correct. We are totally desperate. We've been doing this thing for three years. We're, we're, we're working hard. 350th episode. Basically, we would really like to grow. upon seeing this, I was like, yeah, where's the lie? Like I,I, Ihear you. I'm right there with you. T Kitty. I guess my question is though, the thing that is ambiguous for me still, um, and why I will become my own defense attorney in this moment is isn't a pick me girl, isn't that a girl who tries to be cool for the guys and is like, I'm into sports, I'm into exertion, I'm into e eating tacos likeisn't I, the girls are dramatic.Yeah.I actually, I'm gonna read you the Urban Dictionary Pick Me Girl definition. A Pick Me girl is a girl who seeks male validation by indirectly or directly insinuating that she is not like other girls. Basically a female version of a symp. Characteristics of a pick [00:15:00] me girl, let's men walk all over her because of her carefree demeanor.I'm just gonnastop youright there. You can ask my boyfriend of two years if I have ever been carefree.Theanswer isno, notonce, not a single day. Have I been carefree unless, you know, I was like heavily under some type of influence.I invite you all to DM Kagan and ask how chill and carefree I was when I gave him an ultimatum. Okay? Like, we are so not that description. That is my only line of defense here. Like if that is what this person's calling us, she's giving a review on the wrong podcast. Right. but if bime garlic is a larger symbol, then we're in trouble. I'm like the opposite of a guy's girl. I don'tknow.I just, Ipride myself on not being a guy's girl and being unpalatable to men.We are staunch defenders of Zero Hobbies, the zero Right, right, right.That's an OG pop anthem. So I invite you to search back on our Instagram for the [00:16:00] clip. but yeah, Chandler and I have died on the Zero Hobby Hill and we are absolutely not the girl who doesn't hang with girls or, and hangs with the guys, blah.no thank you.Okay, so anyway, um, now that we've taken no responsibility, Desperate.Yes.Carefree. No.Okay. So yes. Desperate. Yes. Carefree. Absolutely not. Um, Chandler, so I wanted to, when we were discussing what we were going to chat about today, I wanted to potentially watch the new episodes of the Kardashians, because, you know, that is a font of content that I enjoy, absolutely. It's a. Yeah, it's literally like the, California aqueduct or whatever, it's just, it's ever flowingYes. and as Sandoval has come to a bit of a close, we are not talking about Tom and Ariana on this episode, it's a blessed day. I think for everyone who doesn't watch Van Pump Rules. That drama is simmering. We need other people to [00:17:00] gossip about. So anyway, I asked you if you wanted to watch the show and please share your response.I said, I'm not watching. And then I said, I don't really want to watch. I kind of drew a line in the sand, you know? and I, have expressed this to you before that I've had a fall from Grace with the Kardashians. And do you want me to talk about the watershed moment in my life you know, should we get into that first, or do you want me to just explain my entirePOVnow?I wantyou to explain the watershed moment.Paint a picture for everyone. me paint a picture.I've honestly always liked the Kardashians and I've defended them to people who just like blatantly hate them. I think There's definitely a sect of people who just flat out think they are dumb women and don't think that they have hold any value or like have contributed anything.Andme, frankly, like I. Really supported them. And Kim Kardashian was like, the only reason why I enjoyed my curves. I literally grew up thinking [00:18:00] every woman was supposed to look like Marissa Cooper from the oc. Like that was a normal body. Um, or that was the ideal body. So, you know, I, I like, I really appreciated that, you know,what, what the Kardashians contributed to, you know, kind of widening, you know, the. like widening the plane of desirable bodies, like opening people up to the idea that, yeah, like the Kate Moss frail chic vibe is not the pinnacle of beauty. Absolutely.And. Not to make this all about me, but I've basically had like a sizable butt my entire life. And that's something I've always felt very like ashamed about. And like Kim Kardashian helped me overcome that. And you know, that is something I will forever thank her for. Um, but I wasn't like blind to the Kardashian machine.I just thought like Chris was a mogul and, you know, good for them. Like they should cash in, like whatever. but then I think. When you told me that the news broke, that Ray J said that Chris Kardashian was like heavily involved in the [00:19:00] selling of Kim's sex tape, like, and that was confirmed that I could not recover from, and maybe that was always something people knew and I just had, you know, chosen to never really believe it.But in that moment I was just like, I just felt very gross about it, and it just seemed like an extremely dark, morally bankrupt move. Even for them, even for people. I don't see them as like pillars of virtue, but I was like, wow. Even from day one they've been kind of gross like that. be honest, another huge part of thisis like them lying about plastic surgery.Like I was already kind of like, Damn, people loveto lie.Um, and they love to also, you know, pedal skinny me or flat tummy tea and, working out twice a day. But they also get NPSsandtucks literally everywhere and lie about it. And also, you know, filter and face tune their bodies into oblivion.so I was already kind of like frustratedwith that. Butbasically that's my, uh, that's my notes app reasoning for why I've kind of like fallen away fromthe Kardashians and whyI don't wanna watch their [00:20:00] show.Yeah. I think that for you, that was a watershed moment where you felt like this was a family that you, on some level under. Understood. You got them. and then you felt deceived. You felt like This family, you were no longer willing to give the benefit of the Dow too. Like even though you saw their, flaws, a lot of them, and you saw, you know, potentially that they were turning your culture into a more shallow narcissistic culture and that they were setting also some unrealistic beauty standards about surgically changed bodies, um, and really bodies that don't exist actually in nature.Or very extremely rarely. And so anyway, I think that you were willing to look past all of that until you had that moment where you're like, wait, this family will actually make deals with the devil in order to get more money and power and fame. And I don't wanna be a part of that.And honestly like I, I think a huge aspect of it was that it was literally so long ago that it was like, [00:21:00] it's not like they've just, you know, been completely warped by Hollywood and their life and whatever, whatever. Like that almost is more, I hate to say it, understandable, but the fact that it was like from day one before they were even famous, they were willing to like, Sell This tape just made me feel really dark inside and, and I was just kind of like, this is not a mother, daughter's, you know, relationship that I actually want toidolizeanymore in any way.So, I think it might be useful for people that are like, nodding along curious. I don't think that this entire saga has been fully deep dived enough, and so I wanna lead everyone through this whole re j drama really quick. It's probably gonna be like a five minute segment. Um, just to give everyone a full picture of what Chandler is exactly talking about.Yeah. and so.basically we're gonna go through the inception of Kim Kardashian into fame. So Chandler, it's easy to forget what catapulted Kim Kardashian [00:22:00] from Paris. Hilton's best friend and closet organizer, a Marie condo before her time. To the woman we know today. Let's remember what kick started Kim's career.Kim was working as a stylist for Brandy Ray J's sister, which is where Kim and RayJay met. They dated from 2003 to 2006. This is Kim is largely an obscurity. she's the girl walking behind Paris Hilton with the Louis Vuitton multicolored bag. Um, Ray J. And Kim start dating and he has referred to her as one of the greatest loves of his life.. Um, and in February, 2007, a tape of Kim and RayJay having sex while on vacation in Mexico surfaced and was obtained by Vivid Entertainment.Kim sued the company for 5 million to gain rights to the tape. That same year. This tape catapulted Kim into the beginning of who. We all know today it was the inception of the family's billion dollar empire. [00:23:00] This is all alleged fyi. Kim Kardashian is a public figure that we are making commentary on, under our First Amendment rights.and this is all alleged, and we don't know if any of this is actually factual and at all could be made up.Um, and there's something called anti, . Okay. according to the TMZ partner, two fab.com, Ray J and Kim's agreement was at each.Would receive $400,000 plus 12.5% of the profits of the sale of their sex tape. . TMZ stated, we've obtained an email from Vivid Entertainment Honcho, Steve Hirsch dated May. First 2007 in which she informs Kim, the tape has made $1,424,636 and 63 cents in revenue, including the majority of which million coming from DVD sales.To date, the video has had more than 210 million views online. On on DVDs. Kim and Raj continue allegedly to earn money from the video around $360,000 per year. Okay. So we knew that the video [00:24:00] was sold to Vivid Entertainment, but it was all kind of, other than that, it was the big question.Did Kim release it or did Ray J release it? the official approved narrative Okay. In the mainstream media, um, was that Ray J sold it. Okay. and in April, 2022, episode of the Kardashians, fast Forward let's see, this is from 2007 to 2022. So 15 years later, Kim is worried that there is additional unreleased footage of her and Ray that could potentially be released on the internet.Kim says in the episode that Kanye has retrieved any footage that RayJay supposedly had. She says, he got me all of the sex tapes back. She tells her family, he flew home and got the computer. It was on the high drive and he met up with Ray J at the airport and got it all back for me by the way, Ray J has gone on to have a partner, have children, have a whole other life, but he's constantly being pulled back into this narrative, right?That he took advantage of Kim and sold the sex tape and yada, yada, yada. [00:25:00] So Ray J, responds rightly so to defend his honor and says All of this is a lie, shaking my head, can't let them do this anymore. So untrue. Apparently there was no explicit footage that Kanye picked up from a computer.It was footage of Kim and RayJay at a restaurant nightclub, and nothing sexual or weird. So this is classic Kardashian plot manipulation. Um, in May, 2022, RayJay says that Kim has always had the tapes and that Chris was always in control of the release. So this is where we go from, was this tape.That Kim sold and was part of to get famous. . This is where it gets really icky. And where I get the ick and it gets gross because in May, 2022, Ray J says that Kim has always had the tapes and that Chris was always in control of the release.According to Ray's interview with the daily mail, Ray J said that he was never in possession of the sex tape. [00:26:00] This is a quote from Ray J. I've sat in the shadows of for over 14 years. Allowing the Kardashians to use my name to abuse my name to make billions of dollars over a decade and a half.Talking about a topic I've never really spoken about.I'venever leaked a sex tape, in my life. It has never been a leak. I never had a single one at my house. She had them at her house. She's always had all the tapes in a Nike shoebox under her bed. That's how it all came about. Once I pitched the idea to her, just playing around a little bit, that's when she jumped on the idea, talked to her mom, and it was out of my hands from there.As reported by US weekly.com, Ray J accused, both Kim and Chris Jenner as the ones who orchestrated the leak of the sex tape. He also revealed alleged dms between he and Kim that claim that everything shown on the Kardashians regarding the tape was a lie. Us weekly.com published the text from Ray Ray's Instagram screenshots, which says,so he's texting Kim or DMing Kim. Now I realize this is another promo stunt for you unless you reach out to me soon. I'm gonna take it to the level where it shows all of what we did, [00:27:00] all of the meetings and convos about the plan, date and times of our meetings, and the whole lie you and Chris planned.Since the beginning. The US weekly.com article continued. Kim allegedly apologized and responded. I completely understand and I appreciate hearing this from you.I want you to know that I wish nothing but the best for you. This has heard us both in so many ways, and I know we are aligned in wanting to move forward with our lives. Thank you for reaching out, and my hope is that after next week when everyone sees that the computer is given back to Kanye, that this story will be dead and done.I'm sorry for all this is affecting you. That wasn't my intention. Okay, so obviously she's trying to brush it under the rug. That's unreal. not directly addressing anything that he's saying.no,the skirting around the whole thing.just being like, hash up. This is basically shut up. she's just being a politician here.Right.So on September 8th, 2022, Kris then goes on James Corden's show and does a segment where she takes a lie detector test.James asks Kris if she helped Kim release her [00:28:00] sex tape, and Kris says, no, no. And the results say that she's telling the truth. Chris responds, oh, I like that. We cleared that up. All right, so later that month, Ray J. Fire is back. And this is where the real, I think, bomb is dropped and the mic is dropped, and suddenly things get a lot more clearer. Com reports that on September 10th, rej took to Instagram live for a 28 minute video saying that he remembered things quite differently. He said that he and Kim had filmed a second sex tape in Santa Barbara as a backup that he said Kris was not only aware of, but she made the decision for them to have a second video for safety, just in case he says, that's my.Paraphrase, just in case his exact quote is for safety. He says that Chris watched both videos and then told him that they were going to releasethe first videosince it gives Kim a betterlook than thesecond video. this isRay J's quote, but you watched it and made a decision. He said billboard.com [00:29:00] continued. Ray J claims that he has a legal documentsproving the releaseof the sex tapewas orchestrated by Chris Jenner.Contracts that list three items. Cabo Intro, Cabo Sex, and Santa Barbara Sex RayJay hasshow the contents ofthe contracts other than the title of the three items.Hmm.So I. Here'sthe question. If this is true,how problematic is it thatKris allegedly watched her daughter's sex tape,had her film a secondone, justin case, watch that, and thenbrokered adeal where she profited off that deal, allegedly.I mean, problematic is like, Doesn'teven begin todescribe it, in my opinion.It's so dark to me.It's so dark. But Ido think this gets at bigger questions. Right. And I just wannasay, I thinkthat we have entered this new, culture where everyone wants tobe really positive and we wannasupport people doing all sorts of careers. Um,[00:30:00] You know,whether that's on only fans or whatever, and selling your body and selling your,uh, physicality we're supposed toall be totally morally neutral to that.So I guess the devil'sadvocate question is, is isn't this just really the samething, like trying to utilize, and maybe would Chris Jenner be looking out for her daughter trying to get her money inpower? Um,By justreleasing thissimple video, like, what's different about this and why is it a problem? what's differentabout this? Because that is a whole other conversation that like I havemixed feelings about,but likeI can understandboth sides of that, that conversation. But what is problematic to me and what is really dark about this, is that they have, profited off the storyline that this was very traumatic for Kim.Hmm.And they have made this to be a very emotional, like they've just sold us a lie that like this was never somethingthat shewanted and that, and we were all made to feel sorry for her and to, you know, believe that this was a really traumatic[00:31:00] event inher life that, you know, she never wanted. And that, that's where I feel really lied to.And it's that lie that in my opinion, invalidates any like sex positive, uh, conversation.Gotcha. Okay. I cansee that their entire empire is built onto seatof the public. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And I thinkit's thatthat's where you really lose trust inthese people. Andpeople are, there's,I'm sure there are listeners who are like, shakingtheir head laughing like, you ever trusted these people? and I think there arepeople who saw through them from the beginning. so I totally understand where you're coming from. I also wanna say that this really, um, sings intomy crass, orI don't know the, the, the phrase, but this really, you know, it's like, I don't know, there's aphrase sinks intomy CRAsgets my, anyway,wanna hear about your CROs everOkay.on this podcast.I really don'tknow what that,anyway, if someone please DM me what, what I'm trying to say. This really gets meupset becauseI will [00:32:00] just say publicly that I think it's absolutely wrongto.Teach your daughters and help your daughters sell their bodies for money or for power.I think there are things that are more important, more virtuous, more worth chasing afterthan, um, money and power. And I think thatresorting to that is a fundamental betrayal of goodpriorities. Um, as a mother, which is a steward over your children.So all Serena Joy all fucking day I mean, I don't,I just, I'll co-signthat, even asChandler be so bold.police, like, I'll justfully co-sign that. I think it's really dark to see amother-daughter relationship this has happened,um, and where it feelslike it goes against biology a little bit.Exactly, and it just feelslike that's the role of the mom. The mom is supposed to be theone where she isinstructing children about what actually matters in life. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. [00:33:00] and she's the one that's supposedto be like, you know, helping when her daughters get bad ideas. Ideas that they potentially are not wise enoughto realize are bad ideas.And so to not only, you know, it's, it's giving, you're doing amazing, sweetie, on her playboy shoot. It's just, there's somethingabout it that doesn't sitwell with me.honestly, like the Playboy shoot doesn't even, that is like,I agree. It's,it's a comp on adifferent scale. It's like butI think, I don't wanna stay too long on this conversation, but I think that this family has manipulated the publicinto thinking that they're like a real family, you know, who really cares about each other.And I'm notsaying theydon't care about each other, I just think that they are morally bankrupt completely. And I feel betrayed by that.I absolutely agree, and I think when you make a deal with the devil, you reap what you sow. And I don't think all prizes are earthly. And I think that it will be interesting to watch as fate unfolds for [00:34:00] these people. I do wannatalk about Kanye'sbirthday partywhat I wanna get toOkay. Yeah, let'sget to thatnext, and then we can move on from the Kardashians.All right, so this is according to page six, Kanye West 46th birthday featured plenty of bizarreantics, including theeyebrow raising decisionto serve sushi and sashimion nude women's bodies. The disgraced Yeezy designer included the Japanesepractice called Neo ta moriat hisSui Saturday to the interest Of thecelebrity attendees, including his nine year old daughter. Northsocial media users, however, believe the act to bemisogynistic. So these are somequotes from socialmedia.Treating a human woman like a plate is kind of misogynistic. Big dog tweeted one person.yeah.InIn what world is treating women like objects from male consumption,literally not misogyny, argued another. W t F. He's getting weirderand weirder each day.Others joke that Sex and the City character,Samantha Jones, did it first 2008in theseries first film.film.Yeah. Here's what I'm gonna say [00:35:00] about the nude sushi.It is misogynistic Also,thisis not the,just a Kanye weird thing. I've seen this on Housewives also on Sex and the City. Like,it's just like a weird rich people thing, like party trick. but yeah,it's still gross. It's very gross to me that Northwas there andI just, ugh, I hate even saying this.I don't wanna put,I feel guilty putting thisenergy out into the world, but Ijust,don't know how youcan be a normal child. With this type of environment,and I,I, I just feel like thatis going to be very damaging to your mentality. I mean, havingKanye as a father is going to be damaging, and that is likereally sad and itjust makes me really sad.Kanyeis a wolf in sheep's clothing. AndOh, I, I think he's a wolf and Wolf'sclothing. Well,I think he's a wolf and Wolf's clothing.he projects all this talk about Christianity, about God, about virtue. He'sall over Kim Kardashian for dressing too provocatively. And yet he has his now wife, basically naked[00:36:00] walking around. Like she'sliterally wearing almost no clothes inpublic.is wearing,I think, clothing that communicates something really dark. I think Kanye West is very dark. I'll just leave it there.AndI think that the fact that Kim Kardashian, her children are with Kanye West,and now her children have tobe around this environment, that is a little bit offate.Okay. That's, that's a little bitof karma. Excuse me. and it'snot good.It's not good atall. Uh, I just think likeI'm, I am getting more and more like mom and dad every day, but like I just, kids should not. See women objectified like this at the age ofnine.and no one should have to see that.you know what, I would love tosee Lauren.What.I would love to see Kanye throw a party forhimself,a 46thbirthday at,you know, or maybe for his 47thnext year if he's gonna, you know, hear this at an indoor trampoline park.Okay. I would love to seeKanye throwing his party at,you know, Sky high orwhatever, indoor trampoline parkandyou know, he can [00:37:00] make everyone wear the bizarre yay clothing and then everyone have, would have to like jump around inlatex dresses and suits.That would be funny. Now that's an idea that feels like, okay,Kanye, you did something crazy.versus just, you know, a misogynistic sushi party.What happened to Chandler Cake and Sprinkles and yeah, jumping around and having fun. What happened to that being a way tocelebrate your birthday? Iabsolutely agree with you. I would love nothing more than, um, Kanye West taking overAlexis Binos franchise.Um, sky Highin Lake Forest, California, and absolutely jumping around with all of hisarchitectsandSinging some nice rap songs.Absolutely. I cosignthis vision.Ihave The Kardashians fatigue me.so I have a little bit of background on Neo Time Mori that I can share with people. Or do you want, or do you wanna moveon?if it addscontext, let's doit.Well, I think it's interestingcuz we're gonna get a lot of comments that are like,you don't understand Japanese culture and you are just, white girls from Orange [00:38:00] Countywho have never, you know, left Laguna Naeland it's showing so.I'mjust going to sharewith you the background on Neo ta Mori and then I wanna discuss this as a larger question.So, the origin of neo ta mos, according to Wikipedia, canbe traced back tofood play, um, that was performed during the Eddo period. Um, sothis is likea period of history in Japan where saki would be poured into a sex worker'spubic regionfor drinking purposes. Okay. by Japan's economic growth inthe 1960s.This practice wasfurther evolvedby the hot springing bathing industry, wherethe erotic nature of neo mori was used as an advertising tactic by the hot springing resorts to attract male customers who were on company trips to the region. The Neo time Mori practice dwindled as family and private trips To the destinations became increasingly popular in the 1980s, and it wassubsequently adopted bycatering and sexestablishments as an exotic attractiondue to the lack of primary sources, the misconception of Neo Moore's origin [00:39:00] persisted whenthe practice becameinternationally known through popular culture.Intraditional neo mori, the model isgenerally expected to lie still at all timesand usually not talkwith guests until the event is concluded.Even after all food is removed,the sushi isplaced on sanitizer, leaveson the model's body to prevent skin tofish contact. Oh, episode title discovered Skin to fish contact.All right.and onsufficiently flat areas of the body, which the sushi will not roll off of in theJapanese style, the geisha body is fully naked, except for the traditional footwear and headdress. The Western style is a bit more modest. Chandler sometimes adding a G-string.Mm-hmm.Neo taMori is consideredan art form.Usually champagne and sock are served in naked sushi restaurants. Guests must be respectful and observe the strictest decorum. Talking with the modelsis highly discouraged. Inappropriategestures or commentsare not tolerated,and diners can only pick up sushi with chopsticks. Although rules in some restaurants are lessstrict.For example,in some restaurants, guests can nibblenori [00:40:00] rolls off nipples if theychoose. okay, so anyway. The practicehas beencriticized as being decadent,humiliating, degrading, cruel, antiquated, objectifying, and sexist.Several countries havebanned the practice.in 2005,China outlawed Neotime mori on naked bodiescondemning it due to public health reasons andmoral issues.anyway,I just wannasay, This is my pointof bringing thisup.I understand that this is a cultural practice,right?And my personal feeling is that just because something say cultural practice doesn't meanthat it's,you know, morally neutral.Doesn't mean that you can't make an assessment as a human being anddecide that thiscultural practice is repugnantand disgusting.I mean, and it's notjust in like, you know, Eastern culture, like let's talk about polygamy or youknow, like inbiblical times, taking multiple wivesand all the,you know, all the hat jazz, if youwill.Um, so yeah,I completely agree.It is, it is [00:41:00] degrading likemany antiquatedcultural practices, it's degrading.Yeah,it's, I mean, the, there are cultures on this earth right now where. Womenare stonedfor committing adultery or for doing certain things. I don't think we just write that off as, oh, you know, we just don'tget what it's like to live in that country.well, and I don't think peopleare, it doesn't sound like people are,Um, well somepeople are, so, some people in coin the comments like on YouTube and stuff, cuz I wasreading Twittercomments about this. They're like, you don't get it. Also a big argument for is like, listen, like some places inare so bad that if you can get paid money to lay naked with sushi on you, that is so much better than otherjobs available toyou.Um, sothere isthat argument.that is, that'sreal and that's very sad,Yeah.And and it's not, it'snot a comment on the woman. It's literally not a comment on the woman atall. Orthe person, you know,in thatposition. Like, Ifeel like Isaw this on a, on a Housewives episode. Like it has nothing to do with the person working that job or being in that, it's the [00:42:00] personIt'sthe person partaking ofit. It's the person feeding the beast, consuming it, paying money for it. Um, so I completely agreewithyou.Okay.Wow.We gotta get off our moral high horses on this podcast.That's forsure.know. Okay. let's talk about Tom Gerardi some news this week. He has been found mentally fitto stand trial.if you'll remember, Erica Jane.Wasor is on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.This is her ex-husband who she'snow gotten a divorce from, um, who came under a lot of, uh, fire and is in theprocess of beingprosecuted. So maybe Lauren though, if you wanna givemore context on Tomgdi. I would love to. Sofor Non-Real Housewives of Beverly Hills viewersor listeners, excuse me.Tom Gerardi is a very famous attorney whose notoriety goes well beyond Bravo. Tom Gerardiis theactual attorney in theAaron Brockovich trials. Sowhen Aaron [00:43:00] Brockovichthat movie withJulia Roberts shewon best actress for the Oscar and sheplayed a woman who basically was like thepseudo attorney going after pg and e who had poisoned the water of the small town in Central California.Um, andall these really kind of down and out people had gottencancer and it was this horriblesituation. so anyway, Tom Gerardi was the hero of that story, who saw Erin Brockovich as this scrappy woman, gave her a jobwhen she was down on her luck,and then they took on the behemoth of pg and e together,um, and deliveredthe people, you know, their justrewards.So anyway. Tom Gerardi, washailed as a hero. He was thought to be one ofthe most successful attorneys of all time. and he was a champion of the people goingafter evil corporations ontheir behalf.So his entire, however, facade and reputation came crumbling down when it wasrevealed that he was.Stealing money from his clients. Sohis clientswere not actually getting thesettlementsthat they wereowed. He was actually stealing those for company [00:44:00] purposes, and this was made even worse. by watchingErica Jane, his wife, that was 40 years, his junioronReal HouseHorse ofBeverly Hills, who led a lifestylethat would be considered beyond lavish.and frankly not understandable on anattorney's salary. Multiple private planes, a Jetta couldget them all the way across the world. Ajet for justdomestic travel. She had literally sang a song titled, it's Expensive to Be Me. She hada hundred thousand dollars Cartier Ring,like she wasbeyond gosh. Um, and so this really, sank into people's CRAs. I, I don't even know the phrase, but this really got people.Um, whenthey realized the money she wasusing to live a lavishand completelyunnecessary lifestyle was the stolen fundsallegedly, ofactualvictims, of heinous events and tragedies.Okay. Chandler, I'lllet you take it from here. I'lleven sayevenup until. Most recently with[00:45:00] that Malaysia airline that crashed where all those people died, you know, so tragically Tom Gerardi was the lawyer for all those families. He representedall of them.They did not receive their money. and that is all explored and I think the Hulu documentaryabout, Tom Gerardi.So,I think it's the real housewife andthe hustler.yeah. Yeah, exactly. okay, so this brings us to this weekwhere, Tom Gerardi has been,you know, allegedly sufferingfrom dementia.And thisis a storyline that's beenpurported by Erica on Housewives, by Tom'speople, you know, by his family. if everyone will remember the iconic moment where Erica,you know, saysTom's house was broken into and he confronted the burglar and then he had to go have eye surgery and then my son had to go over and help and then, hi my son, he rolled his car five times on the way home.Yeah, I'm under a lot ofstress. You know,there was this whole season where Erica wasjust talking about, trying to keep the train on the tracks whileTom was [00:46:00] deteriorating mentally,and, you know, her life was falling apart. so,to her jewels, bythe way, like this woman who, it's as she, there was likea pair of earringsthat she would notlet go ofthat.You know, she refused to basicallygive to the victim's families. And you know, in her eyesit's morecomplicated like a $2 million pair of bearings, Right, right.Yeah, it's not, yeah, itwasn't like $40 TJ Maxearrings. and we've seen Tom on the show andhe's old. He's an old guy. So I was fully buying that.He had dementia. And I was like, I was like, makes sense. but some have questionedthe diagnosis. I'm gonna paraphrase from this article, but basically, you know, Gerardi was still running his firm and still speakingto clients upuntil literally the day it allcollapsed. he evenhosted an education panel and you know, the state bar was actually so suspicious that he was faking an illness.[00:47:00] That it asked the judgein the conservatorship proceedings to order an independent and more thorough mental examination with an agency lawyer Writingthat the claimof cognitive problems came, quote, only after gerardi became enmeshed in mounting legal troubles.So,Clearly the, you know,the state of California and the justice system was not buyingthis dementiadiagnosis. You know, despite Erica's claims and Tom's claims, um, I thinkhe lives in a home right now.Um, does.So anyways, I think it is extremely shocking that he has been foundmentally fit to stand trial Ourgrandpahad Alzheimer's, and dementia. they are two different things. and we saw trulyhow.Mentally crippling this disease is, andhow firsthandhow this, you know, the person, you know, when in his like later years was gone. You know, he was reallynot mentally sound.And so I think it's,[00:48:00] I. Really sick that they haveplayed this up.You know, the fact that a, like an independent neuropsychiatrist or neuropsychologist has found him to be mentally fit. Like you have to be prettysound to be able to stand trial. And I just,I'm so floored that, you know, he is in fact mentally sound because he is, there've been pictures of him where he'slooked, you know, like. He is, you know, on death door essentially. and so I just,it's, it's reallyshocking tofind out. It was kind of all an act, or at leastan act to somedegree,Well, I think this guy's a total fraud,obviously, and so it makes sense to me that he would tryto feigin in competence and commit further fraud in order to avoid being, you know, brought tojustice. So it tracks for me. also,I will say that dementia is so interesting because.I just think that it would be exhausting to try to fakethat.Yeah, totally. dementia is sorealand it isso. strikingly[00:49:00] real to, to be in frontof withwhen someone has it. already for our paternal grandfather who we really didn't know very well, growing up, he, you know, didn't have muchinterest. Um, our realgrandfather was ourgrandmother's, second husband,um, that was our grandpa, but our paternal grandfather, um, he actually was so crazy.His wholepersonality transformed it to be an. Nicerperson to be a lotsofter and gentler once he like lost his real personality. Um, and he, dementia really sunk infor him. Um, and it, my pointof sharing that is to saythat it makes you a differentperson.and think it's something you truly can fake, you know? Tom Jardiis not an an Oscar-winning actor, and good luck, dude.But I'm so happy that he's gonna stand trial.yeah, I, I definitely feel like this is a,a win forjustice today.I think it also definitely blows apart Erica's credibility.[00:50:00] Mm-hmm.Oh, I mean,Ithink that Erica Jane has been cosigning hisdiagnosis,and I think that a lot of people gave her the benefit ofthe doubt, even saw her. You know, as she clutched her diamonds, um,not willing to release them so that the value could go tothe widows and orphanswho were, you know, swindled. Um, people kindof gave her the benefit of doubt and thought this is a woman who's losing everything. she's going from her 13 million house to her $2 million house in, la.How sad for her, a casita, her like beautiful dream of a home, Like that whole situation.Anyway, Ijust think that now this brings other things too light because.shewas propping upthis narrativein theshow, allegedly, and it just makes me a little suspicious about a potentialco-conspirator ship allegedly, whoknows?Yeah, [00:51:00] absolutely. I mean, For herto saythat he has dementia or that he was basically like gone mentally.And then to have that, called into question and then confirmed,I mean, she's a liar.She's a big liar. And like, I, definitely wonder ifthis will play out in the next season.Yeah, Ithink that, you know, she wasreally trying to pushthat narrativeon the show with these crazy sceneswhere she would, talk about hiscarve accident that happenedwhere he got abrain injury, just trying to plant the seeds. thathe could potentially yes, be demented. Um,and I think that, you know, the truthhas a way of,showing itself,of revealing itself.It's true, it's true. I mean, if I wereErica,I would not continue toto sell his lies.I would get as far away from him as possible. If I truly didn't know anything, I would say I'm divorcing you. I'm getting as far awayfrom this situation aspossible.you just she's still getting money orsomething?[00:52:00] exactly?I think allegedly,I think that, they set up some sort of situation where she could still be. Receivingfunds, I don't think that her career as a pop star where she was, it was just losing money is paying for her lifestyle. I also think her $650,000 alleged. Salary as a Beverly Hillshousewife.While that might sound like a lotin California, that's 300 grand after taxes. And then trying to live alifestyle in LAlikethe oneshe was living, that shitdoesn't go far, baby. So, I think there's morehere thanmeets the eye.yeah. Well thenI wonder if she will, you know, go down with him insome way.I, I don't think so. I really don't think so. it'll be interesting to see,butSharon, should we leave it there today?I. Yeah, let's leave itthere.All right, Chandler,thank you so much for being here with me today. [00:53:00] sorry everyone. Thishas kind ofbeen a heavy, dark episode, but youknow, sometimes it's important toexplorewhat's really going on around us.if you enjoy pop Apologi and youenjoythis podcast, we beg of you on Benin Knee,Pick me girlsthat we are Please everyone share this podcast.Share it on your Instagramstories. Include the link soyour followers cantap it and listen.Pleaseshare a thoughtfulshout out.usa review. Oh mygosh. 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