How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams

We did it! Host and Author Emily White truly feels we've covered the modern music industry, now including questions from you that we didn't cover in the episodes bringing to life the chapters from the book this podcast is based on. To wrap the season we're thrilled to cover the final audience question that has been posted to Emily: "Are NFT's good or bad?" The short answer yet another question: like anything we create - is it compelling? To dig in on all things NFT's, whether you have no idea what that means or are an NFT expert, Emily chats with Author, Consultant and all around Music Tech Expert, Karen Allen. Karen has a wonderful book out called Twitch For Musicians so the conversation naturally evolves to best practices for live streaming and what's happening on TikTok. Tune in, enjoy and thank you again for making How to Build a Sustainable Music Career & Collect All Revenue Streams the NUMBER ONE Music Business Podcast IN THE WORLD! Our minds are blown by the response and we can't wait to return in 2023 with live tapings of Season Two in workshop form. To be the FIRST to hear about that, sign up for this podcast and book's email list HERE. Thanks again and Happy Listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

This is the second of three bonus episodes to wrap the first season of The How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams Podcast! Host and Author Emily White was a global tour manager from ages 20-23. The touring crew world is a family that White cherishes deeply but realized there aren't always formal resources with basic information on what industry standards and norms are for those who dream of becoming a touring crew member. To share this information White interviews world class tour manager Noamme Elisha who has worked with Broken Social Scene, Sylvan Esso, Courtney Barnett, Tame Impala, K.Flay, COIN, among others. White also chats with her dear friend, Lighting Designer Jeff Maker, on how he got to where he is designing and programing the lighting for tours with All Time Low, The Dresden Dolls, Our Last Night, Dropkick Murphys, Good Charlotte, Pierce The Veil, Mighty Mighty Bosstones, The Gaslight Anthem, Yellowcard, Brand New, Boys Like Girls, The Click Five and more. We hope you enjoy this episode whether you are looking to become a touring crew member or are a growing artist on the road ready to hire one. Happy Listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

This podcast, and the book it's based on, is written for the perspective of the musician who writes, records, and performs live. However listener Brian D wrote to Emily and asked how he can move his career forward without being a songwriter. He said, "I am a drummer trying to get my name out there to bigger artists." And thus this bonus episode titled "How to Be a Session Musician" was born. Host and Author Emily White immediately thought of her longtime friend, Brian Viglione, for this episode. Brian is a world-class drummer whose band The Dresden Dolls has experienced the heights of success while he's parlayed that into a career recording with Nine Inch Nails and playing with one of his childhood heroes, The Violent Femmes. Tune in to hear how Brian has built a successful career as a session, touring musician and more. Also! Anyone who shares this episode before 2/28/22 and tags @emwizzle and @zildjiancompany on Instagram or Twitter, or @emwizzle and @Zildjian on Facebook will be entered in a drawing to win a 16" K Constantinople Crash cymbal from Zildjian! We will draw and contact the winder on Monday 2/28/22. Happy Listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

We did it! Host and Author Emily White truly feels we have covered all aspects of building a sustainable music career and collecting all revenue streams. We're forever grateful to you for listening! And we're not done yet! Both Emily and a listener had ideas for two additional episodes that cover "How to Be a Session Musician" and "How to be a Touring Crew Member." So we hope you enjoy this "final" episode of the season, but stay tuned for two bonus episodes dropping soon! Want to pick up the book this podcast is based on or dig in deeper by booking consulting time with Emily? Get free shipping plus 10% off with the code FRIENDOFEMILY here: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2 Thanks again and Happy Listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Amaechi Uzoigwe's resume / CV speaks for itself as Co-Manager of Run the Jewels, Co-Founder of Studio A, an investor, advocate, and more. But to host Emily White, he is pure inspiration as a human being. This is a candid conversation on Amaechi's career and rise to becoming one of the top managers and most respected minds in the industry. However his journey has been far from a straight and narrow path. Settle in to learn how getting out there to do the work, and always doing right by artists, can lead to organic professional relationships that last a career and a lifetime. Similarly, Amaechi is a true modern manager in the sense that his work in film, branding, and activating around causes important to Africa & Africans throughout the Diaspora takes his work and artists to the next level and beyond. As we begin to wrap up the series of this podcast based on Emily's book of the same name, she felt it was crucial to speak with Amaechi and share his story with you. We hope you enjoy it and happy listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

We did it! You now know how to build a sustainable music career and collect all revenue streams. However, help is always appreciated! In this episode Host Emily White interviews a longtime, yet very modern manager, Randy Nichols. Emily and Randy break down artist management and the ancillary team members that surround an artist. Important note!: *Many* music industry folks listen to this podcast and have read the book it's based on. The point is - we're all learning and growing together. It's important, if not crucial, for you to have an understanding of what is going on in all aspects of your career even if you're fortunate enough to have folks helping you along the way. We hope you enjoy and happy listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

This is the second episode where Host Emily White interviews a handpicked artist to discuss the concept of the book this podcast is based on, in particular Chapter 11 - Repeat & Grow! As we've *just* about covered the entire modern music industry, now it's on you to go back to Chapter 1 (Get Your Art Together) to begin the process again. This episode takes you through Artist Nikki Hill's journey, who has been doing just that. Nikki Hill has created a path outside of the norm and molding her own image has been a lifelong brand for the singer, songwriter, and bandleader. With the lack of exposure for Black soul-rock singers/entertainers, Nikki found herself being misinterpreted. She became known in some circles just as much for confusing local audiences who initially assumed a different vibe based on her photo, as she did for leading an explosive, soulful, not-to-be-missed electric guitar-driven performance. Refusing to let the experience undo her path, Hill embraced the muse and jumped into the process of probing the vital role that Black women played in what became rock ‘n' roll. As word spread, so did interest, allowing Hill opportunities to open for a range of artists like Dr. John, Aaron Neville, Los Lobos, to Eileen Jewel and Nelly, before any music was released. Nikki continued to develop her sound, learning with trial and error, a lot of road mileage, self-releasing albums, and carving out a place for herself, and hopefully a place for other people going through similar struggles. We hope you enjoy and Happy listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

We did it! This podcast has now covered all steps in building a sustainable music career and collecting all revenue streams. Now what? At some point, you will feel your current project wrapping up. You know in your heart and soul when it's time to begin again. Although such a thought can feel daunting, know that you're going to get better at and learn this information in a deeper way every time you go through this process. This episode reviews all past steps that we've covered in building a sustainable music career. And includes an in-depth interview with the incomparable Kam Franklin of The Suffers, who embodies building a sustainable music career in every way. Enjoy this conversation between Kam and Host Emily White to get inspired and know what to do when things are winding down, only to rest and do it all over again to continue your growth. Happy Listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Today's episode ensures you haven't missed a single revenue stream we've discussed to-date! Host Emily White reviews all revenue streams you should be collecting on if you write, record / release, and play music live. If not, you're missing out on money! To dig in deeper, Emily then interviews musician, educator, and activist Steff Reed. Reed has gained national acclaim as a producer and songwriter having worked with the likes of Trey Songz, Jhene Aiko, Eric Roberson, Swizz Beatz, Kenny Lattimore and Gordon Chambers on songs that made it to the Billboard charts. As an Educator, Reed has taught thousands of youth between the ages 4-24 over the last 15 years and is a GRAMMY Music Educator Award nominee. Steff is also a proponent of Chapter 10 of the book this podcast is based on - Revenue Stream Checklist. In this chapter, Emily offers readers a free Google spreadsheet with the goal of musicians being able to track and project their music revenue Kind of like a “real” job, but in a good way. This also ensures that musician's aren't *missing* any revenue streams. As if there's a blank entry in the spreadsheet, you are missing out on revenue. When writing the book, Emily wondered if musicians would use this tool and find it helpful. Steff did just that and in this episode they review all previous revenue streams covered in the book and podcast and explore Steff's powerful career. You can check out the spreadsheet here to download and make your very own copy: https://bitly.com/AllRevStreams Follow Steff on Instagram here: @IAmSteffReed Happy listening! Today's episode is brought to you by Songtrust, the world's largest and most accessible music publishing administrator. Sign up now to join over 300,000 songwriters and collect your publishing royalties from more than 215 countries and territories. Use promo code SUSTAIN20 at signup for 20% off your Songtrust registration. Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Artist, Musician, Songwriter, and Entrepreneur Julia Nunes defines building a sustainable music career in many ways. One of which is her understanding of the importance of "merch," or merchandise, and the powerful connection it can create with fans. This episode shares best practices on what has worked for Julia on merch at shows, online, and beyond. Host Emily White also interviews Julia on her career through the lens of the book this podcast is based on. Follow Julia on Instagram @JuliaNunesMusic Happy listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Kevin Lyman is The G.O.A.T. (greatest of all time) to host Emily White. Kevin is founder of The Vans' Warped Tour and is currently a professor at The University of Southern California. There are many big “names” in the music industry. But Emily has been fortunate to get to know Kevin and all that he does to mentor the next generation of musicians and those who support them. As well as his tireless passion to support non-profits both in the music space and beyond. In this episode Kevin and Emily discuss the state of the live touring and webcasting industry, as well as where it is headed. Happy Listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Live streaming was a technology that existed prior to the pandemic. However, the space has since exploded with investment, giving artists new options and tools to connect with their fans. With in-person shows now returning, how can these new innovations create a hybrid model to reach even more fans who might not be able to attend traditional concerts? We explore this and more with Mary Kay Huse, the visionary Co-Founder and CEO of Mandolin, which is one of the top webcasting companies leading the charge. Happy Listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Host Emily White used to tour manage and this episode is the first of three that will cover live performances and touring. Guest Akin Aliu is a booking agent at CAA, or Creative Artists Agency - one of the largest talent agencies in the world. Emily and Akin break down how to book and promote shows, what a booking agent does and is looking for, as well as how to maximize all aspects of your live career both on the road and via livestreams. Here we go! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Melissa Garcia is a Founding Partner at Collective Entertainment and Host Emily White's business partner. Melissa also serves as the Chief Marketing Officer of #iVoted Festival. In this episode Melissa and Emily cover FOMO or “fear of missing out” in the age of Instagram and what to do about it, how to announce your release effectively, social media best practices, maximizing Spotify and Pandora, as well as modern PR whether you have a budget or not. Additionally Melissa and Emily break down radio promotion in the United States, music videos in the modern era and discuss brand partnerships. Here we go! Today's episode is brought to you by Songtrust, the world's largest and most accessible music publishing administrator. Sign up now to join over 300,000 songwriters and collect your publishing royalties from more than 215 countries and territories. Use promo code SUSTAIN20 at signup for 20% off your Songtrust registration. Follow Melissa Garcia on Instagram and Twitter. Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Part three of our distribution episodes explores digital distribution companies such as The Orchard, Redeye, and of course Symphonic which today's guest Nick Gordon is the GM of in New York City. He additionally serves as Symphonic's Chief Client Officer. Today we're going to explore the inner workings of this form of distribution as well as the physical distribution of CD's and vinyl. Host Emily White also explains what SoundExchange is and why now is the time to sign up if you haven't already. Happy listening! Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

In the previous episode, Host Emily White discusses the importance of "direct to fan" distribution as the foundation of building a sustainable music career. The next step on a musician's journey is to distribute to "DSP's" or digital service providers - e.g. Spotify, Apple Music, Tidal, Deezer, etc. In the book this podcast is based on, Emily explains when artists should use CD Baby and when Tunecore is the right fit. Since its publication Emily has been asked by musicians how DistroKid fits into the space. This episode explains exactly that. Our episode's guest is Milwaukee based musician Cullah, who has been releasing an album a year on his birthday since he was 15. Now 30, Cullah recently released his 15th album 1/2, as he has been releasing music for half of his life. Emily and Cullah discuss aggregators and dig into how Cullah is building a sustainable music career Happy listening! Check out Cullah at Cullah.com & @CullahMusic Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

"Direct to fan" distribution is the foundation of building a sustainable music career. Technology companies are the most valuable entities in the world. Why? Because they have all of our data. Musicians and creators need to view themselves through this lens, instead of just giving their fans' data away to technology companies without knowing who is listening to their music. Musicians can do this by collecting as many email addresses and mobile phone numbers as possible to communicate with their audience directly forever. This episode breaks down why you need to be selling music through your website and on Bandcamp. Bandcamp has been at the forefront of the direct to fan revolution, paying out $751 Million USD over the past decade to artists and rights holders. To dig in further on this crucial topic, host Emily White interviews Bandcamp founder Ethan Diamond. Also! Today's episode is brought to you by the amazing folks at Bandzoogle. Built by musicians for musicians, #Bandzoogle is an all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a stunning website and EPK for your music. Head to Bandzoogle.com & try it free for 30 days, +use the promo code “SUSTAINABLE” to get 15% off the first year of any subscription. Happy listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Lauren Ross is an incredibly talented sync pitching representative, music supervisor, musician, and more. She has managed St. Vincent, launched Kill Rock Stars' licensing division and founded Terrorbird Media's sync pitching department. In this episode, Host Emily White interviews Lauren, taking listeners through steps that put musicians in the best position to land a "sync" placement. “Sync” is short for synchronization, which is when music is synchronized with picture - examples used in film, TV, advertisement, web show, etc. Happy listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Music publishing has brought fear and confusion to many songwriters over the years. And Host Emily White understands why! There are horror stories of songwriters signing their publishing rights away for a nominal advance in the 20th century, only for their catalog to go on to make millions. But first, what *is* music publishing? And how do you collect on it? The good news is, music publishing is more simple than you might think, and the modern music industry offers ways to collect on that revenue while also retaining your rights. This episode explores all options for collecting on your music publishing revenue. Emily interviews Songtrust President Molly Neuman for a deeper dive into this topic, while also discussing Molly's incredible career. Happy listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

All songwriters need to sign up for a performing rights organization or "P.R.O." in their country. Unfortunately Host Emily White has met many songwriters who have been fearful to do so. She's also met young songwriters who figured they would join a PRO when they're further along in their career. This episode is here to quell those fears and encourage you to sign up for a PRO in your country NOW. Emily interviews special guest Loretta Muñoz of ASCAP to explain how to do just that while discussing best practices in working with a PRO. Happy Listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

This episode covers Chapter 4 of the book this podcast is based on, "How to Record With or Without a Budget." Host Emily White does so by interviewing veteran musician, producer, photographer Patrick Sansone of Wilco and The Autumn Defense. Emily and Pat discuss his successful career through the lens of the book. While also sharing best practices for recording whether you're just getting going or would like to learn and grow through hearing from Pat's experience in the studio. Happy Listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Patrick Sansone on Instagram: @Sansonic1 Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

The next chapter in the book this podcast is based on is "How to Record With or Without a Budget." Host Emily White initially thought of Imogen Heap for this episode, as she is the first woman to win Best Engineered Album at The Grammys. However Emily realized she'd be remiss if the interview was limited to recording, and instead interviews Imogen on her iconic career through the lens of the book. Emily used to tour manage Imogen and we hope you enjoy this special conversation where they catch up on Imogen's wide ranging career. And how she is transforming the music industry for artists and us all via the launch The Creative Passport. Enjoy! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Imogen Heap's Creative Passport for Musicians: https://www.creativepassport.net/. Artists should sign up now to truly revolutionize the industry through the power of artists owning and controlling their data. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Today's episode delves into every musician's favorite topic (hint: sarcasm) - business affairs. Business affairs is also known as the legalities and rights around the music you're creating, and is not limited to master recording ownership and songwriting splits. Host Emily White digs in to ensure you're collecting all revenue that's owed to you for your songwriting and music publishing. She also shares best practices on how to handle songwriting splits if you are collaborating with others on writing your music, as well as how to compensate producers, remixers, arrangers and more. In addition, Emily covers putting together a band or group agreement if you aren't a solo artist. All of this precedes Emily's exclusive interview with attorney Donald S. Passman, author of the iconic All You Need to Know About the Music Business, who has also represented artists such as Taylor Swift, Stevie Wonder, Adele, Kanye West, and more. Today's episode is brought to you by Songtrust, the world's largest and most accessible music publishing administrator. Sign up now to join over 300,000 songwriters and collect your publishing royalties from more than 215 countries and territories. Use promo code SUSTAIN20 at signup for 20% off your Songtrust registration. Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Prior to recording, it's crucial to establish your marketing foundation as you can then authentically connect with fans to bring them on your journey. In short, this includes setting up your email list, text message club and ensuring your social media accounts are in place. No one knows this better than Ariel Hyatt of Cyber PR. Ariel's best-selling books and award-winning Cyber PR® process marks the intersection of social media, PR, and online marketing. She's best known in both the music industry and the business world for her ability to simplify and explain things that creative minds don't necessarily love: PR, marketing, and social media. Ariel and host Emily White are also old friends. In this episode they discuss modern marketing best practices and laying your foundation before you hit the studio. Cyber PR: https://cyberprmusic.com/ Ariel Hyatt on Twitter: @CyberPR Today's podcast is brought to you by our friends at Bandzoogle! Built by musicians for musicians, Bandzoogle is an all-in-one platform that makes it easy to build a stunning website and EPK for your music. Listeners can go to Bandzoogle.com to try it free for 30 days, and use the promo code “SUSTAINABLE” to get 15% off the first year of any subscription. Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Host Emily White had the privilege of interviewing Bon Iver's Justin Vernon for her students at New York University's Clive Davis Institute prior to the pandemic. White realized this conversation perfectly brought to life Chapter 1 of How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams - Get Your Art Together. Bon Iver's management kindly gave their blessing to share this interview in podcast form. White feels that anyone can achieve this book's and podcast's title. However the art must be great to do so. As artists and industry folks, it's natural to get caught up with what happens after music is made (marketing, distribution, etc.). However one will not be successful if the art isn't great. So much so that White is constantly reminding those in her profession of Chapter 1's title - Get Your Art Together. And why one shouldn't move on until they know they are "ripe" and ready to record, ensuring their songs, players, and vision are truly in the best place possible while creating from one's heart and soul. We hope you enjoy this very special interview with Justin Vernon by Emily and her students. Happy listening! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Zoë Keating is the only musician Host Emily White has ever met that does not need to read the book this podcast is based on. Zoë is an old and dear friend of Emily's, as they first met when Emily was tour managing Zoë and Imogen Heap in the Winter of 2006. Emily interviewed Zoë for the book's foreword which is available via an exclusive excerpt with Hypebot here. This podcast episode is the audio recording of that conversation and contains more than what is available in the book and Hypebot piece. In fact, Emily never planned on releasing this conversation as it was initially recorded so Emily could transcribe Zoë's words for the book's foreword. With Zoë's blessing this conversation is now a podcast episode for the world to hear. Emily personally loves the foreword of the book as much as the entire book! And the feedback from the written version of Zoë's thoughts has been overwhelming from artists in the best possible ways. We hope you enjoy this conversation between Emily White and the incomparable Zoë Keating on how Zoë continues to build a sustainable music career and collects all revenue streams. Happy listening! Follow Zoë on Twitter HERE. Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support

Welcome to How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams! Based on Emily White's #1 Amazon best-selling book of the same name, this debut episode gives you an overview of the book and this podcast series. Emily has never seen the modern music industry presented to artists in order - from creation to execution or recording to release. Similarly, as a veteran of the industry, Emily was repeatedly finding money owed to artists. She realized that if this was happening to artists with large followings and teams in place, that it was most likely happening to countless artists. Thus, How to Build a Sustainable Music Career and Collect All Revenue Streams was born. This podcast takes you through each chapter of Emily's book, with hand-picked guests who breathe life into each chapter's topic, taking the listener along their own journey to achieve the podcast's title. Tune in every Monday for a new episode. Next week Emily will be releasing her interview with Zoë Keating, which is the foundation of the foreword of the book, as Zoë is one of the only artists Emily has ever met that doesn't need to read this book. We hope you enjoy and look forward to experiencing this odyssey with you! Questions? Reach out to @EmWizzle on Twitter. Book this podcast was based on: https://www.collectiveentinc.com/book2. 10% off w/ code PODCAST Email List to be directly contacted when S2 & the book's next edition drops: https://bit.ly/SustainableList CREDITS: Creator, Executive Producer, Producer, & Host: Emily White Engineer: Nathan Cain Music: Matthew Wang Sponsorship: info@c-ent.com Graphics: Neelu Mohaghegh --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/sustainablemusiccareer/support