The Leadership Nature Podcast

Wallace Wood has been an active member of the McCormick County, SC community for over 38 years. He served as the Executive Director of the Upper Savannah Land Trust for six years and has been on the board of directors several times since the organization began in 2000. In 2011, he was named South Carolina Tree Farmer of the Year. Wallace walks both Tom and Emily through his farm and provides an American history lesson, as well as a personal lesson, on how the property has developed over the years and what it has meant to his family.   Key Takeaways: [4:35] How did Wallace get started in tree farming? [7:10] What did the farm look like when Wallace got his hands on it vs. what does it look like now? [9:25] Wallace's father struggled financially early on and many people wanted to buy this land, but he would not budge. [13:10] Wallace shares a fun story of what he and his family would do on Christmas Eve on the farm. [16:10] Wallace talks about the Master Tree Farm program and how it's helped him and his farm grow. [16:55] What's it like being nominated Master Tree Farmer of the year? [19:20] What is a conservation easement and who should consider getting it? [23:20] One of the largest gold mines was developed here, and this was before the Civil War. [28:45] Wallace is very proud of his property and the vast diversity of God's creation. He is passionate about sharing everything he's learned with others. [29:10] What advice does Wallace have for landowners? [32:20] Wallace is so grateful and blessed he doesn't see any city lights anywhere near his property. [35:25] We don't know what the future holds, so it's important that you have some flexibility with your land use. [39:30] Wallace's motto is to leave the land better than when you've found it. [42:20] The biggest hurdle Wallace and his team have found within the Master Tree Farm program is helping other tree farmers go through a tree management plan. [44:55] Wallace is so passionate about the outdoors because during his childhood he was sick in bed for nine months. After that experience, he never wanted to be stuck indoors ever again.   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Americanforests.org

Walt McPhail, Brother Bill, and Dr. George Kessler (from a previous episode!) join Tom and Emily to discuss Walt's farm. Walt and his ancestors have managed to keep the property within the family tree for a long, long time. He shares how he always knew he wanted to be a forester, why he's been “retired” for nearly his entire career, and so much more, in this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:35] Before we hear from Walt, we first hear from Brother Bill on what he's learned from Walt. [3:45] If you ever get a chance to work with Walt, do it. [4:45] Walt did the master tree farm course in the early '90s. [6:35] Building a legacy is very important to Walt and he made it a priority to take his children along with him to show them what he was doing. [8:20] Walt's girls were hesitant to take on the property, they would not sell it, but they had no idea how they were going to manage it when Dad's gone. Walt came up with a solution. [11:50] How do you best manage tree poles? [15:55] How did Walt get into planting tree poles? [20:35] What's Walt's favorite spot on his property? [24:50] How do you determine what is a pole? [34:35] Walt talks about his family lineage and how they first came to America. [38:00] Walt always knew he wanted to be a forester, but he got into veterinary school to fund his forestry habit. [42:05] What lessons has Walt learned over the years? [45:00] What's the best way to manage a tree farm? Brother Bill offers some advice. [48:50] What are the men most proud of in their career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Americanforests.org

Dr. George Kessler is a Certified Tree Farmer and a Registered Forester. Dr. George is a recognized treasure in South Carolina for his extensive work in the tree farm community. He has dedicated his most of his career to extension forestry and has created millions of acres of healthy forests. Find out about Dr. George and his journey into forestry, his impact on the South Carolina community, and so much more!    Key Takeaways: [4:10] A little bit about Dr. George and his family. [8:25] Dr. George knew he wanted to be a forester in highschool. [11:35] How did Dr. George get started in forestry?  [13:00] What is Dr. George most proud of in his career so far?  [18:20] Land owners were eager to take any sort of forestry education they could get their hands on.  [21:45] Dr. George shares how he got children involved and excited about learning more about the environment. It was a slow start at first. [26:50] Dr. George is involved in a Christmas tree farm. He explains what that means.  [30:00] How did the tree farm program get started in South Carolina?  [33:30] Dr. George has created a beautiful community of tree farmers in South Carolina.  [35:45] How did Dr. George and his committee finance the South Carolina Tree Farm Program?  [37:00] Dr. George and his team are proud to announce that they have about 600,000 acres of actively managed tree farms in the program!  [39:00] What does Dr. George see for the future when it comes to the South Carolina Tree Farm Program?  [42:00] We hear a fun story about Dr. George and how he approaches tree farming. He can be stubborn as a mule!  [44:40] What legacy would Dr. George like to leave behind?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Americanforests.org

Skeet and Gayle Burris are proud owners of Cypress Bay Plantation, a 2500+ acre farm and is nationally recognized for exceptional forestry, wildlife management and conservation. Skeet and Gayle share what it was like working on the farm in the very early days when it was an undeveloped 95-acre property. Lean in as Skeet and Gayle talk about how their vision back in 1986 has come true, and how they plan to keep the family legacy alive.    Key Takeaways: [2:00] How did Skeet get his start in tree farming?  [6:00] Gayle shares her version of the story on how the family got involved in tree farming.  [7:25] Feeding four boys during the very early days was not easy, but Gayle believed in Skeet.  [10:50] Skeet shares how he came up with his big picture vision for the farm. [16:25] Skeet was fortunate that he purchased abandoned and exhausted land and, over time, built it into something.  [17:40] How did Skeet get tree farm certified?  [19:40] What does tree farming mean to Skeet?  [22:15] Skeet's vision came true. What's his vision going forward in 2021 and beyond?  [24:35] Skeet and his family have made an active effort to support conservation efforts on their farm and it's paid off!  [26:45] Gayle realized in the early days that the boys had a negative association with the farm because it meant ‘hard work'. So she worked on creating long-lasting traditions and positive memories with the whole family and friends in the community. Now, whenever her boys come, they're proud to show their children what they've built.  [31:25] As Skeet was building up the farm, Gayle realized she also needed a niche and decided to get into photography.  [34:15] How did the name Cypress Bay come about?  [35:40] Skeet talks a little bit about his love for South Carolina.  [43:00] What words of wisdom and tips does Skeet  and Gayle have for fellow tree farmers?    Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Americanforests.org Cypressbayplantation.com

John Spearman is a retired Colonel for the US Army and the President of Deer Hill, an award winning tree farming operation. John has been part of this farm since 1977 and shares a little bit about its rich history, the family legacy he is building with his farm, and just his love for being outdoors. John and his family have been able to create alternative income sources on his property that go beyond timber and trees!    Key Takeaways: [2:10] Colonel John introduces his son, Von, who is a forester!  [5:50] Both Colonel John and Von describe their land and some of it's important historical landmarks. [11:00] How did Colonel John find his property and purchase it?  [14:10] Colonel John proposed the idea to his father-in-law to plant pine trees on the property. [15:45] Colonel John was working two jobs, one for the military and one on his farm. He was a younger man back then and could do that kind of work.  [20:00] When Colonel John's father in law passed away, his father took on the role of managing the farm in Colonel John's absence.  [21:25] When Colonel John received the district tree farm award, he wondered why they didn't receive the state tree farm award.  [22:15] How do you properly market the timber on a tree farm? Colonel John got creative.  [25:25] By preparing Colonel John's thesis, it gave him a long-term plan and it deeply rooted himself in his business. [26:45] Do quail and turkey flourish in a pine plantation?  [29:10] What research projects is Colonel John currently involved in and what has he learned thus far?  [30:35] Von explains what ‘trashy farming' looks like.  [32:45] Von shares what kind of things he's planted on the farm thus far.  [35:05] Colonel John provides a bit of backstory to the watershed and it's importance to making this whole ecosystem work.  [36:00] Von shares how they make money off of their tree farm, and it's not just from the trees!  [37:30] Colonel John shares his plans for the future and what he hopes to achieve with the farm.  [40:10] It's Colonel John's duty to leave the land in a better condition than when he started.  [40:40] How does Colonel John plan to pass on the tree farming business to his children?    Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Americanforests.org

Annie Ruth Jones is a three-generation landowner and has successfully used her land to plant and sell trees. Her grandparents bought the land she is currently standing on in 1935 and she is very proud that she has kept the family legacy alive all these years later. She also credits the Center of Heirs Property for helping guide her to find the right resources to make a living out of her land. Find out more about Annie and her property in this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [2:15] Annie shares a little bit about her land and her family. [4:25] Annie shares her family tree and how she came to inherit her property. [9:25] Annie's father stressed the importance that everyone in his family finish high school. [11:00] Annie talks about her father and what kind of man he is. [12:00] Hold on to the land because they're not making any more of it. [13:40] A quick introduction to Kenneth Dunn and what he does for the Center of Heirs Property. [17:45] Annie cannot stand the tree frogs! [24:00] Annie does a tour of her property and talks about why she loves a particular tree. [27:45] As a black family, trying to hold onto property is very expensive. This is why Annie loves resources provided by Kenneth Dunn and others. [31:05] Annie made a promise to herself that she would not sell her land. [32:55] Annie feels so blessed to have been able to keep the property in her family name thus far. [34:15] It's up to the younger generation now to see if they want to keep up tree farming. [34:40] Kenneth explains some of the challenges African-American landowners have when it comes to keeping their land. [38:20] Without Heirs Property help, landowners really can get taken advantage of. [41:25] Annie shares how the family makes a decision together when it comes to their property. [42:50] What do you need to do to become a certified tree farmer?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Heirsproperty.org Kenneth on LinkedIn

Randell Ewing is a tree farmer with deep roots in Darlington County, South Carolina. He got into tree farming by accident when he purchased a small piece of land in his early 20s for hunting purposes. Since then, he's grown his property by thousands of acres and it's now turned into a family business with him and his son. Listen in as you hear Randell's stories about his tree farm and the amount of pride he has for growing trees.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] Where did the name for Randell's farm, Indian Summer, come from? [2:40] How did Randell get started in tree farming? [5:50] Randell got his start on 15 acres and originally wanted to use it for hunting. However, he never actually hunted on it, instead, he used it for conservation. [7:25] Randell shares a little bit about his wife, who has since passed on. [10:35] Randell shows Tom and Emily some of the coolest things he owns in his barn/storage. [15:45] Randell dives into how he found out about tree farming. [17:40] How did Randell and his son start working together? [19:30] Randell was worried at first that the business would struggle if he brought his son in, but it has been a blessing. [22:35] We hear a little bit from Randell's son, Randell Jr.! [26:35] Why is Randell so passionate about tree farming? [29:25] It's just common sense to plant trees. You're helping the environment. [30:10] A walk through the forest is almost like going to church. [31:05] Randell Jr. shares a fond memory he had on his dad's farm. [37:00] If you can't look after your business, better hire someone to help you. [41:05] Everything Randell has learned today has come from the tree farm program. There are a lot of programs and resources out there for you! [41:45] It's important to be an advocate for trees, the environment, and more because the politicians in big cities aren't aware of their importance. You have to let them know. [45:15] What is Randell thankful for?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org

Eddie and Linda Drayton are the owners of Cat Tail Tree Farm. Eddie is a retired forester and spends his retirement days as a tree farmer. As a man in his 80s, Eddie wakes up everyday excited for a new adventure on his farm and shares a little bit about his love for forestry as well as provides a bit of a background on how the surrounding area was discovered. Join Tom and Emily on this adventure as they talk with Eddie and Linda about the work they put into their beautiful property.    Key Takeaways: [1:40] Tom shares a little bit about Eddie and Linda's farm.  [2:15] As a professional forester, how did Eddie get into forestry? [4:00] Eddie was originally going to be a dentist.  [6:35] Eddie shares how he got into tree farming and how he went about purchasing his first property. [8:45] Linda is a 50% owner and Edide is a 100% worker.  [9:00] Linda shares her first impressions of the land when they finally bought it. It was definitely runned down.  [11:05] Eddie shares a little bit about the history of forestry in Society Hill.  [18:30] The United States saw a huge boom in cotton production in 1917 to provide uniforms to WW1 soldiers.  [20:45] How has timber farming evolved over the decades?  [26:55] Eddie bought this tree farm in the late 90s/early 2000s. He had a lot of work ahead of him.  [29:45] Eddie breaks down in detail some of the beautiful trees and foliage he has on his property.  [37:35] This property is now in its 6th generation of growing trees. Eddie's spent a lot of time to get the tree more in harmony with nature and to make it appealing to wildlife.  [40:35] Eddie shares where he sees the future of his farm headed.  [44:05] Eddie has an easement on his property. What does that mean and what lessons can he share to other land owners?  [46:45] What you leave behind is really important.    Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Scfbins.com

Tom and Emily meet with legacy tree farmer Pat Dorn, based in South Carolina, to learn more about his beautiful property and how he got into the business of planting trees! You'll hear some background noise as Tom and Emily march through the wilderness with Pat as they uncover what makes Pat's property so special.   Key Takeaways: [1:35] You find Tom and Emily with legacy tree farm owner Pat as he does a tour of his property in South Carolina. [2:40] How did Pat get into the tree farming business? [4:50] Pat remembers fondly planting trees with his pa and how they were able to turn it into a profit. [6:00] When Pat was in his early 20s, he bought the worst land available because he knew how to work the tree programs. [6:40] After 40 years, these sub-par lands look fantastic now. Hard work pays off. [7:40] Timberland is a long term investment that requires a long term mindset. [8:40] Pat rents out his land to hunting groups, which further helps his return on investment. [10:00] So many people want to have 50 or 100 acres in the country, but they're not willing to do the work to care for the land. [10:50] What lessons did Pat learn from his dad about the outdoors? [12:50] Pat shares a little bit about his family and his three children. [18:10] It's important to keep your forester happy. The best money Pat has spent was on a consulting forestry company. There's too much room for error in this business. [19:50] When you have timberland, it's also important to have a road system on your property. It pays off when people are coming to bring equipment in to chop the timber. [22:50] Land is going to get more and more valuable in South Carolina. [24:45] What should you think about when you're about to buy land?   [27:40] Pat explains the furniture he's made over the years that's located in his home. [36:15] Don't take advice from the average Joe, most of them don't know anything! Find the most qualified expert, and then go ask them. [39:55] Pat looks at his forester like he looks at his doctor. He's trained. He knows his stuff. [42:50] Why is it important to get into the tree business? [45:20] Pat talks about his lovely wife Jane, her love, and her support. It's hard to get anything done without the support of your spouse!   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Scfbins.com

Tom is on the road and interviewing Mike Meetze from South Carolina! Mike shares his heritage property with Tom and explains how the property has evolved over the years. Everything from growing Soybeans to cattle to now timber. Mike has been on the tractor since he was eight years old, but he is actually an engineer by trade. Take a journey with Mike as he walks you through his property on this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] Tom is recording from the road. Come join him on an adventure in South Carolina! [2:10] How did Mike first acquire his farm? [3:30] Mike's property used to grow soybeans and wheat in the '80s. Now it grows timber. How did Mike and his family make that transition? [4:25] Mike shares a little bit about his wife, Lucy Anne, and how she got into agriculture. [7:50] Mike talks about his family heritage and how his father bought his first property. [13:40] Mike has a pesticide license and is able to take care of his trees more effectively. He also performs controlled burns on his property. [18:10] Mike has four sons! Two are both professional engineers like Mike and his father and the other two are in education. He also has four grandchildren. [24:15] How often does Mike do controlled burns? [28:40] Mike shares a special moment he had with his grandson and the joys of working on the land with his family. [31:40] What does the future have in store for Mike and his property? [38:25] What kind of equipment does Mike use for his land? [49:25] Mike shares how he knows when he's cut a quality piece of timber or not. [52:25] What's Mike's advice for landowners and tree farmers? [54:40] Quick words of wisdom from Mike's grandson.   Mentioned in This Episode: Sctreefarm.org State.sc.us Scforestry.org Scfbins.com

Dr. Myron F. Floyd currently serves as Dean of the College of Natural Resources at NC State University. He first joined the college in 2005 as a professor in the Department of Parks, Recreation, and Tourism Management. In 2010, he was appointed to serve as director of graduate programs for the department, and in 2014, he became department head. Dr. Myron discusses the importance of mentorship in his career, his role as a department head and professor, and what makes an exceptional leader.   Key Takeaways: [:45] A quick intro about Dr. Myron's background. [2:45] How did Dr. Myron get started in natural resources? [4:50] Dr. Myron fell in love with the history of why we have parks, public lands, and forests. He wanted to be part of it. [5:55] What makes a good teacher? Dr. Myron shares a little bit about one of his favorite professors in school and how it helped captivate his love for forests. [8:05] What was Dr. Myron's first leadership position? [12:30] Dr. Myron shares the skillsets he had to learn when he transitioned from a team of one to leading others. [14:55] Faculty members are a unique species. They tend to be focused on people with their own expertise, but it can sometimes be difficult to have a broader view of the whole ecosystem as a whole. [16:55] How does Dr. Myron define leadership? [18:10] Mentoring is really rewarding work for Dr. Myron. He wants to help a student see their full potential. He believes the job of a leader is to help people unlock this potential. [19:25] Who were some of Dr. Myron's mentors? [27:05] How do you find a good mentor? [31:55] What is Dr. Myron proud of in his career? [36:25] What does Dr. Myron wish he'd learned sooner in his career? [40:25] Where is the future of the forestry profession headed? [46:45] How do you make an exceptional leader?   Mentioned in This Episode: Cnr.ncsu.edu/directory/myron-floyd Dr. Myron on Twitter

Garth Fisher is the National Training Director of the Wildland Fire Management branch for the Bureau of Indian Affairs. Garth also services as the Chair and BIA Representative on the National Wildfire Coordinating Group and he has over 15 years of wildland fire operations and wildland fire management. In this week's episode, Garth explains a little bit about what the BIA agency does and how they pride themselves on being able to provide ongoing leadership training to their staff. If you're looking to get started in wildland fire, this is an episode you don't want to miss!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Garth's background. [2:55] How did Garth first get introduced to this industry? [7:10] What made Garth pick wildland firefighting? [10:35] What types of responsibilities does Garth have as the director of fire training? [12:35] What does the BIA agency do? [16:45] Garth explains some common ways people get into wildland firefighting. [17:45] It's important to set the right expectations for yourself. This is extremely difficult work to do! [20:25] Garth shares some of the memorable experiences he's had on the job over the years.  [22:35] What has Garth learned about people and teams? [23:50] If you want to move forward, you need to make yourself uncomfortable. [27:00] Has Garth run into any close calls before? [30:05] What type of training opportunities are available at BIA? [35:30] Garth shares some of the good surprises he's had along the way. [38:25] What types of mentors has Garth had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: Bia.gov

Katie Lighthall is the Coordinator for the National Cohesive Wildland Fire Strategy in the Western Region. She assists federal, state, local, and tribal agencies as well as non-governmental organizations so that they can be ready in case of a large fire disaster. When you're coordinating for multiple agencies, it's important that everybody is on the same page as quickly as possible. Katie shares her experiences on today's show and showcases how she got into this field, in the first place!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Katie's background. [3:35] How did Katie first get introduced to this industry? [8:15] What kind of training do you need to get started in this work? [11:0] When Katie had her first child, she still wanted to be involved with the fire department, but without taking calls in the middle of the night. [14:05] Katie explains why we need a national cohesive wildland fire management strategy. [20:50] Large fires are not handled by local firefighters. When big fires happen, they call state or even federal crews. This means there are multiple agencies coming in to tackle the fire. [23:50] Everybody has a small part to play when it comes to wildland fire. [27:25] What is the end-vision for the cohesive strategy? [32:15] You need to evacuate your home earlier on red-flag warning day if you are caring for someone who has a disability and depends on you. Don't wait till you receive an evacuation notice. The system is overwhelmed and by the time they get to you, it could be too late. [36:25] What do leaders need to do better? [41:15] What is Katie the proudest of about her career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us “California fire forces senior living community evacuations”

John Miller is the State Wildland Fire Chief for the Virginia Department of Forestry. John is responsible for oversight and state-wide coordination of the agency's wildfire control, emergency management, and prescribed burning programs. John shares some tips about how you can coordinate with multiple government agencies so that everyone is on the same page when a fire is happening and he shares some close calls he's gotten while he was in the field.   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about John's background. [3:15] How did John first get started in forestry? [11:55] John explains why controlled burns are necessary for longleaf pine trees. [17:10] How did John rise through the ranks and get the position he is in now? [22:35] What does John enjoy the most about being in wildland fire? [26:35] There's a lot of coordination and collaborative work between agencies when it comes to wildland fire, how does it get all done? [28:55] You've got to build connections between people and agencies long before the fire starts. [29:20] What kinds of job opportunities are available for those that are interested in wildland fire? [31:50] What types of qualifications do you need? [34:30] What types of important leadership lessons has John learned along the way? [37:25] How does leadership change as you transition into different job roles and leadership positions? [40:50] John shares some memorable stories and a tale of caution about what you need to be aware of when fighting fire. [47:25] John shares some advice for those who are looking to get started in wildland fire. [49:45] What is John most proud of in his career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Sref.info

Kristel Johnson is the Support Services Program Leader for the USDA Forest Service. Kristel started her career in 1990 as a temporary firefighter and, later, she attended the Wildland Firefighter Apprenticeship Academy. Over her career, Kristel has worked in wildland firefighting, fire training, district management, employee relations, human resources, critical instant stress management, and more. In 2006, Kristel served as a family liaison for a fallen colleague and it opened her eyes to how the agency manages tragedy. Find out more in this week's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:00] A quick intro about Kristel's background. [3:25] How did Kristel first get interested in firefighting? [5:15] What does Kristel currently do for the USDA? [7:30] The agency has never really had a program to support colleagues and families of the fallen men and women in this field. [9:50] Kristel shares how the loss of colleagues and tragedies have affected her over the years. [12:10] Kristel realized that the agency had a lot more to do in terms of training and education and preparing for tragic incidents. [17:25] Kristel developed the course, ‘You Will Not Stand Alone' to help agency members feel more connected to one another and supportive during tragic events that have happened in their community. [19:55] What's it like being a wildland firefighter? [21:25] How can someone get into wildland fire? [24:00] How can someone specialize or find a specialty in this field? [24:55] Kristel shares some of the mentors she's had over the years. [33:05] What advice does Kristel have for people who are just getting started in their career? [35:15] What is Kristel most proud of?   Mentioned in This Episode: Fs.fed.us Srs.fs.usda.gov

Robyn Broyles is the Fire Communication and Education Specialist for the Bureau of Indian Affairs, the national interagency fire center in Boise, Idaho. In Robyn's role, she focuses on the accomplishments of the Indian country's wildland fire management and aviation programs. Robyn is also a tribal member of the Citizen Potawatomi Nation. Find out more about Robyn and her role with the BIA on this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Robyn's background. [3:40] Robyn shares what she does for the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA). [8:15] Robyn gives an insightful overview of what the fire management team does. [12:05] Everything is tightly woven together, you can't have fire management without timber management, and you can't have timber management without vegetation management. [16:20] Has Robyn moved around a lot due to her job? [20:00] Robyn had to overcome her fear of heights during training. [24:55] What is the wildland fire community like? [27:45] How can someone get started in wildland fire? [31:15] Robyn shares how you can get experience in this field. You don't have to start from the bottom. The fire community is always looking for mid-level experience! [34:25] What kinds of challenges has Robyn faced so far in her career? [38:15] What's it like being part of the National Wildfire Coordinating Group (NWCG)? [41:45] Robyn shares the kinds of mentors she's had over the years who have made an impact on her.   Mentioned in This Episode: Bia.govBia.gov/jobs Nwcg.gov

Dan Smith is the Fire Director for the National Association of State Foresters. He is the Wildland Fire Representative for 50 states and 8 territories at the National Interagency Fire Center in Boise, Idaho. In this role, Dan works collaboratively with the Federal Wildland Fire Directors and serves as a member of the National Wildfire Coordinating Group, which provides wildland fire response on a national level. Dan shares leadership advice, some of the challenges the fire community is facing, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:10] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:55] A quick intro about Dan's background. [3:25] How did Dan first get started in his fire career? [7:35] Dan shares a little bit of history about NWCG. [10:55] What are some of the best ways to get qualified in this field? [14:35] What kind of work is Dan up to these days? [17:40] Dan shares a little bit about his work history and some of the most memorable moments of his career. [21:40] What are some of the rewards and challenges of being in wildland fire? [29:00] Each fire has a lesson learned; how does Dan transfer those lessons into practical training for his team? [31:45] Where is the direction that the fire community is going and what additional challenges has the community come across, over the years? [35:00] Getting communities educated about forest health is an uphill climb. [37:50] Dan offers some leadership advice, wisdom, and tips.   Mentioned in This Episode: Nifc.gov Nwcg.gov Stateforesters.org

Brian Pisarek is the Advanced Wildlife Instructor for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and he is also the Structured Fire Chief for the City of Aitkin, Minnesota. Brian has a B.S. in Forestry and has an extensive list of fire qualifications, too! In today's episode, Brian shares a little bit about how to keep yourself safe during a wildland fire, how to best manage family expectations when you've got to abruptly cancel plans to fight a fire, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Brian's background. [3:30] How did Brian first get started in his fire career? [7:15] Be hungry for new opportunities. [8:00] Firefighting is dangerous work; how does Brian manage the expectations of his friends and family? [10:00] Brian has had a few close calls when it comes to fighting fire. It's important to stay up-to-date with safety information and listen closely to your safety officer. [10:50] What kind of work does Brian do now? [11:35] What's unique about the firefighting community? [12:55] How can young and aspiring professionals get started in this career? [14:40] Communication is what clogs the system. A good leader needs to know how to communicate clearly and effectively. [18:35] What's the difference in the work environment when it comes to wildland fire vs. structured fire? [20:35] What kinds of mentors has Brian had over the years? [22:45] How does the fire community manage their work/life balance? [26:20] What is Brian most proud of about his career?   Mentioned in This Episode: Dnr.state.mn.us

Will Novy-Hildesley is the Executive Director of the North American Forest Partnership (NAFP), a diverse set of people and organizations who are passionate about the future of forests. NAFP is also the driver of #forestproud, where they collect stories from all over the world of what the forest means to individuals and natural resource professionals. Find out more about what NAFP is doing and how you can get involved in their amazing work in this week's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Will's background. [3:40] How did Will first get into natural resources? [7:15] There aren't many sectors where people are so passionate about what they do that they stay with one company throughout their entire career. [10:25] People are losing touch with their natural environment and there are consequences to that. [11:00] Human beings are meant to spend time in nature. [11:50] Will shares the differences he has noticed between the U.S. and the UK. [17:25] How did the North American Forest Partnership (NAFP) first get started? [24:50] How does the #forestproud platform connect with NAFP? [30:15] Everyone has an answer when it comes to what makes them proud about being in forestry. [35:25] Will explains how to develop content that works. [42:55] Will is very proud of his team and shares a little bit more about what they are up to. [45:15] How can people get involved with #forestproud? [48:15] What makes Will #forestproud?   Mentioned in This Episode: Forestproud.org Usendowment.org Will on LinkedIn

Buddy Huffaker is the Board President and Executive Director for Aldo Leopold Foundation, a non-profit conservation organization located in Wisconsin. Buddy is very proud to be part of the Aldo Leopold Foundation,  an organization he joined over 20 years ago as an intern. In today's episode, Buddy shares a little bit about how the foundation got started, what exciting new things the foundation is working on right now, and how students can get involved in its exciting projects!   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Buddy's background. [3:10] What got Buddy interested in natural resources? [6:40] How did Buddy get started with the Aldo Leopold Foundation? [9:25] Buddy shares a bit about the Aldo Leopold Foundation's history and what they do. [11:25] The Aldo Leopold Foundation is celebrating their 70 year anniversary of the A Sand County Almanac book! [14:25] What projects is the Aldo Leopold Foundation focused on right now? [19:40] Are you mentoring young professionals? Let them know about the Aldo Leopold Foundation's programs! [24:00] What leadership advice does Buddy have for young professionals? [29:30] What is Buddy's team like? [32:25] What advice does Buddy have about leadership when it comes to his team? [35:35] Part of buddy's job is to help teach his staff how to say no to things! [40:15] Partnerships are critical for any NGO, but what makes a good partnership succeed? [46:30] Buddy offers ways you can support the Aldo Leopold Foundation. [48:30] What is Buddy most proud of, so far?   Mentioned in This Episode: Aldoleopold.org Future Leaders Program Mywisconsinwoods.org Dnr.wi.gov

Chris Joe is an NRCS District Conservationist and a landowner in Alabama. He is a Fourth-Generation African American landowner and he raises cattle on his land. However, through tapping into the NRCS resources, he's found out how to maximize his land by providing bird and nature tours! The NRCS has a wide range of resources that not many people are aware of and on today's episode, Chris shares some of these amazing and fantastic resources today.   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Chris's background. [4:40] How did Chris get into cattle farming? [6:35] Chris explains the definition of ‘black belt' and how it relates to the soil. [9:30] What kind of work ethic did Chris learn while working on the farm? [12:15] Chris shares a bit of his family history. [15:25] How has Chris been able to diversify his land? [21:20] NRCS has SO many resources for landowners! [24:05] Chris has people from all over the states coming to his land to watch birds. He never knew that would be possible without the help of forestry professionals. [25:55] Chris keeps a journal for his farm. It's helped him tremendously keep track of the history of the farm! [30:25] What's next for Chris and his farm? [35:55] Chris shares a bit about his educational journey on how he got into farming and conservation. [42:40] You don't want to go on to somebody's farm and tell them what they have to change. It will rub them the wrong way. You've gotta do a bit of pre-work first to build trust. [52:15] The NRCS has a lot of available resources and programs for landowners who might not be able to afford it, too. [59:15] Chris loves being able to partner with the community and teach them practical lessons on how to efficiently use the land. [1:03:25] Another resource that the NRCS teaches is about game hunting on your property; what's legal and what's not legal to do.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov High Tunnel System Initiative Connecting with Birds and Nature Tours on Twitter

Elaine Snowberger kicks off this new season of Leadership Nature. In this season, Tom will be featuring up-and-coming forestry and natural resource students to share their educational experiences. Elaine shares some of the benefits of joining a forestry club, why she loves being part of the Clemson University family, and shares tips on how she scored her first forestry position!   Key Takeaways: [1:15] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:55] A quick intro about Elaine's background. [3:10] What got Elaine interested in forestry? [6:55] Elaine shares what her experience at the Clemson forestry club was like. [9:45] Elaine was elected treasurer of the club, then she went on to be vice president, and then president of the club. [10:10] At the club, Elaine mainly did crosscut events. [12:00] What are some of the benefits of being in the forestry club? [16:20] Elaine loves being part of the Clemson family. [20:35] Elaine shares how she found her first job in forestry. [23:10] What advice does Elaine have for new students? [24:50] Don't be afraid to job shadow industry professionals! [26:45] Elaine has made a good impression in being seen as a leader to her peers. [29:45] What were some of the most memorable courses Elaine had in school?   Mentioned in This Episode: Clemson University Hardwoodweb.com Eforester.org

John Littles is the Executive Director for Mcintosh Sustainable Environment Economic Development. He provides technical assistance to grassroots organizations and asset-based economic development, food systems, education systems, land preservation and retention, and so much more! In his role, John has generated over $8 million dollars in funding for the organization and works as an outreach provider for the United States Department of Agriculture for Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and Mississippi. On the show, John shares his expertise and experience working with landowners in rural communities!   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about John's background. [4:15] How did John get started in this field? [9:50] John relies heavily on volunteers and partnerships to help keep these community projects going. [10:35] What lessons has John learned about leading volunteers? [12:15] How did John first find out about the SFLR program and how has it helped the community so far? [14:45] By introducing diversity into the forestry industry, it has helped make an impact in the communities John and his team serve in. [15:25] John shares an example of how he helps landowners with their property. [17:30] How has John been able to build trust in the community? [19:20] The landowner always comes first! [19:45] What kind of partnerships has John been able to develop, so far? [20:40] John is in the third year of phase one for the SFLR program. What will phase two look like? [21:40] How have John and his team made the transition from serving people on a local front to a national front? [24:25] John shares a story about a young landowner he was able to help. [27:25] Trust takes time to build but once it's built, you can really move mountains with it. [31:10] Can John help people clean up their title and getting ahold of the property's farm number? [33:20] Why is this work so important to John? [34:40] What kind of advice does John have for landowners? [36:45] John shares his final thoughts about the importance of educating rural African American communities.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Danielle Atkins on Leadership Nature Forestfoundation.org

Yvonne Knight-Carter and Eleanor Cooper-Brown are both sisters and the owners of Broadaxe Branch Partners. Their property goes back almost 150 years and they are proud to be connected to the land once again. Both successful in their respective careers, Yvonne and Eleanor are taking on the task to make their land sustainable and to help educate the community about the free land management resources that are available to them. Do not be afraid to go into the USDA's office to ask for what you need!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Yvonne's and Eleanor's background. [6:00] Yvonne shares her journey and how she found her family land. [13:45] Vconne and Eleanor's family farm was visited by the Secretary of Agriculture, Tom Vilsack. [17:15] Eleanor shares her journey and how she found her family land. [24:05] Yvonne shares a bit more of the history of the land. [35:35] The sisters have such an emotional tie to the land. [37:00] When did Yvonne and Eleanor get their first forest management plan? [38:25] Did the sisters have any challenges with transferring the title into their names? [41:00] The Center of Heirs Property has free will-creation services for community members. [45:00] What advice do Yvonne and Eleanor have for other landowners? [55:50] How has their purpose in life changed since taking on this property? [1:00:00] Eleanor is very proud to call this property home and wants to pass it down for their children.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Heirsproperty.org

Lillian “Ebonie” Alexander is the Executive Director of the Black Family Land Trust, one of the United States' only conservation land trusts dedicated to the conversation, preservation, and protection of African American and other historically underserved landowner assets. Ebonie and her team host regular workshops in the community to educate and share the importance of keeping land within the family. Find out more about Ebonie's important work on this week's show!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Ebonie's background. [3:35] How did the Black Family Land Trust first get started? [5:35] What did Ebonie do before joining BFLT? [9:55] What does the BFLT do and how do they help African American landowners? [14:50] What is the definition of a land trust? [16:15] Ebonie explains who typically needs and uses their services. [19:50] What is “heirs' property”? [21:50] Why does Ebonie recommend against doing land petitions? [25:45] Many next-generation landowners don't want to own farmland due to its slavery ties. [30:40] How does Ebonie educate the community on the benefits of owning land? [33:10] Ebonie explains the important partnerships she has built over the years. [39:15] Ebonie shares a client success story! [46:45] Ebonie shares some final thoughts about the importance of keeping the land within the family.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Bflt.org Ebonie on LinkedIn Dof.virginia.gov Vdacs.virginia.gov

Evette Browning is the Outreach Coordinator for the Department of Agriculture in Arkansas. She provides educational resources for African American landowners to help them get the support they need to take over their land and turn it into an asset, not a liability. On the show, Evette shares the types of barriers landowners have historically faced and how people in the community can help people just like her to get the word out.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Evette's background. [3:40] How does Evette support the SFLR program? [6:40] What are some of the things Evette can help landowners with? [8:35] Evette shares some success stories about some people she's worked with. [11:15] What kinds of barriers have landowners faced? [17:25] In the past, African American landowners would use their word as their formal document and would not use wills or estate plans. [21;05] What advice does Evette have for landowners? [23:30] How do landowners find Evette services? [27:05] Where can people go to find SFLR resources? [28:55] How can natural resource professionals help landowners? [37:15] How can people help Evette make her job more effective? [41:10] Landowners, take advantage of this opportunity while it's still available!   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Arkforests.org Evette on LinkedIn Arwomeninag.org

Fahamisha Amkajinaki grew up in New Jersey but has returned back to her grandfather's land in North Carolina to better understand and honor the tough efforts he went through to keep it. Fahamisha has leveraged resources in her community like the SFLR program to better understand the land and use it to its full potential. Find out what legacy Fahamisha wishes to build on the family land on this week's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Fahamisha's background. [3:55] How did Fahamisha get reconnected to her grandfather's land? [7:35] What was the transition first like from going to a cement jungle to an actual jungle? [11:35] Fahamisha didn't realize how divorced she was from mother nature until she came to the family farm. [13:05] Fahamisha shares a bit of the land's history. [16:15] What are Fahamisha's goals for the property? [24:35] Fahamisha wonders why schools in her rural community are not teaching children about nature-related topics like forestry and the environment that they're constantly exposed to. [28:45] How did Fahamisha first discover/get started in the SFLR program? [39:35] Fahamisha completely understands why so many African Americans landowners are cautious to work with outsiders. [44:00] How does Fahamisha educate her siblings and family members about the land? [55:30] Fahamisha is so happy she came back to the land and was able to use the free resources and wisdom from experts in her community. [57:15] What advice does Fahamisha have for other landowners? [1:00:55] Don't understand something at a workshop? Go again. There's no shame in taking it all in once, twice, three times, or more. [1:04:15] Your ancestors went through A LOT to keep that land, so honor them by understanding why and getting back in touch with it.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Owpg-inc.com Roanokeelectric.com

Ann English is a State Conservationist for the NRCS in South Carolina. She first began her career as an agronomist and soil conservationist. With over 26 years of experience as a conservationist, she is proud to work on the SFLR program and to help landowners navigate this sometimes confusing and very new industry. On the show, Ann shares the important work NRCS is doing to help guide landowners down the right path so that their land never becomes a burden to them.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Ann's background. [4:00] How did Ann first get started in agronomy? [8:10] Ann shares how she first got introduced to SFLR. [14:00] What other services does the NRCS provide to landowners? [21:55] Ann shares a story of how the NRCS was able to help a landowner who recently inherited some heirs property. [22:55] What stops a landowner from reaching out for help? [27:35] The fourth generation doesn't have the same connection to the land as we do because they didn't grow up near the land. They do not have the same fond memories as we do. [29:25] The land should never be a burden to you. [30:00] What is Ann most proud of about the SFLR program? [32:15] Ann shares her top three pieces of advice for landowners!   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Nrcs.usda.gov — Ann English

Marshall Cherry is the Chief Operating Officer at Roanoke Electric Cooperative, a utility company located in northeastern North Carolina that helped launch the SFLR program and still remains as an active partner and leader of the initiative. Marshall shares his story as well as the company's story of how they got involved in the program, the landowners they've worked with, and how he was able to build trust in the community.   Key Takeaways: [1:45] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Marshall's background. [3:50] How did Marshall first get started in his career field? [8:00] Why did the Roanoke Electric Cooperative pick and focus on the SFLR initiative? [13:00] How does Marshall work and help landowners? [19:45] Marshall has worked hard to build trust with a network of landowners. [24:35] There was a learning curve for Marshall in the beginning because he didn't quite understand all the industry jargon. [29:15] Marshall shares some of his favorite stories about the people he's worked with. [34:25] What advice does Marshall have for landowners? [37:10] What do natural resources professionals need to know to better assist and help landowners? [37:45] The world is much bigger than us, but we have a lot going on in our industry and good partners help you stand up taller.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Roanokeelectric.com Marshall on LinkedIn

Darryl Shelton is a trustee with a family farm that's owned by himself and three other forest landowners in Macon County, Alabama. He has a background as a design engineer, but he's determined to turn his father's property into a family legacy. He's a self-educated forest land manager, but his journey to get there wasn't always easy. Find out more on this week's show.   Key Takeaways: [1:00] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Darryl's background. [3:10] How did Darryl first get introduced to his forest land? [4:40] Darryl explains a bit about his family history. [13:50] How did Darryl find the resources he needed to maintain his forest land? [23:15] Darryl credits Alex Harvey for helping him through the process! [29:30] What were the steps Darryl took to start putting the forest land to work? [37:15] What has been the most rewarding part about taking on these new responsibilities? [46:10] What's next for Darryl?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Alex's website: Legacylandmanagement.org Alex on LinkedIn

Chris Brown is the Community Relations Manager for the Mid-Atlantic Region at Enviva Biomass. Enviva produces over three million metric tons of wood pellets annually and they export these pellets primarily to power plants in the UK and Europe, which were previously fueled by coal. Prior to this, Chris was the Senior Director of Communications for the North Carolina Forestry Association. Find out more about the work he and Enviva are doing with SFLR!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Chris's background. [3:50] How did Chris get involved with the SFLR program? [8:50] What has been the biggest barriers for heirs and landowners? [14:15] Enviva directly supports SFLR through sponsorship and they've been doing that for the last two years. [16:15] Chris shares a little bit of background about Enviva and where they operate. [22:45] What advice does Chris have for professional foresters and other natural resource professionals about SFLR? [27:45] If you're going to sell timber, talk to your county ranger or a forestry consultant. [33:35] Chris explains what ‘certified wood' means.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Envivabiomass.com Chris on LinkedIn

Sequoyah Browning is a scientist and humanitarian and a creative forest landowner near Camden, Arkansas. Sequoyah has degrees in both Biology and English. Sequoyah takes a proactive approach with his forest land and has made some unique choices that best suit his needs and interest, all the while generating an income. Find out more about Sequoyah and why he decided to incorporate a silvopasture design into his property.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Sequoyah's background. [3:30] Sequoyah shares a little bit of history about himself and his forest land. [8:10] What is a ‘silvopasture design'? [14:15] By incorporating cattle onto Sequoyah's land, he is able to make an income yearly, as opposed to waiting 15 years for his trees to grow and get harvested. [17:30] How does Sequoyah space out his land? [19:50] Sequoyah really leveraged the knowledge and the resources from his local foresters. [25:50] It's not about having a cookie-cutter plan. It's important to develop a custom plan that works for you and makes you feel good. [31:20] What does Sequoyah like the most about being in touch with his land? [32:55] Sequoyah shares some advice he has for fellow landowners.   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov

Danielle Atkins is a Forester and Wildlife Professional who currently works for Mcintosh Seed. In her role, she works on the SFLR program for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities where she educates and directly helps landowners with their needs. Danielle also has a blog, Life + Land, where she focuses on women's outreach and land management topics. Find out more about Danielle and the important work she does on today's episode!   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Danielle's background. [4:10] How did Danielle get involved in forestry? [7:55] How did the grant at Mcintosh Seed get started? [12:15] How does Danielle find landowners to help? [15:50] Danielle shares her process and how she helps landowners. [20:45] What kinds of challenges do landowners face when it comes to taking the next step with a forester and/or consultant? [27:00] Danielle is in the process of documenting a model so that other landowners can use it as a template for their best practices. [28:00] Danielle shares a couple of stories and case studies of landowners who have benefited from her service. [34:50] Danielle stresses the importance of gender diversity in the forestry field. [40:40] What should landowners look for when they realize they need some land management help? [42:45] How can forestry professionals get involved? [46:00] What is Danielle most proud of so far?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov Mcintosh-Sustainable-Environment-Economic-Development Life + Land Danielle on LinkedIn

Charlie “Strike Force” Williams is a veteran soil scientist and recently retired from the NRCS after more than 44 years of service! Despite being retired, there's still a lot of work ahead that keeps Charlie going. On today's show, Charlie talks about the Keep It In The Family program to help African American landowners retain their land and utilize it so that it is not a burden, but an amazing blessing that generates an income. Charlie provides some excellent resources today for natural resource professionals looking to help out in this field.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Charlie's background. [4:40] How did Charlie get started in natural resources? [8:10] How does Arkansas's terrain differ from other states? [11:45] What were some of Charlie's first jobs like? [13:45] How did the Keep It In The Family program get started? [20:30] Research showed that owning land was more of a burden than a blessing for African American landowners due to having pay taxes on the land they didn't know how to use. [22:30] How do African Americans lose their land? [26:15] Charlie shares what he has learned so far about developing trust with landowners. [32:20] How do landowners find Charlie and use his services? [35:55] Charlie offers advice to other professionals in the forest and natural resources community on how they can help. [40:00] Where can landowners go for resources and to get help? [43:40] How has the situation improved for African American landowners?   Mentioned in This Episode: Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS: Nrcs.usda.gov More information on the Alabama Forestry Association: alaforestry.org

Charles Lowry is a forest landowner and heir that grew up in the city! He is currently engaging in forest management for the first time in his life as an absentee landowner. He is based in Washington, D.C. and his property is in Alabama! Charles shares his story on how he found out about this land, how he manages it from afar, and some things he wished he'd known before about the value of his land. Find someone you can trust locally in the area to help you make the right decisions.   Key Takeaways: [1:35] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:15] A quick intro about Charles's background. [4:05] Charles shares a little bit about the history of the land he inherited. [9:15] Charles was lucky because his grandfather did have a will before he died. [13:15] With the property being in Alabama and Charles being in Washington, D.C., How did Charles get re-connected with his land? [24:30] With the wide geographical location of the heirs, every single one of them has a varying interest in the land. [25:45] What are some of the challenges of being an absentee landowner? [27:50] Prior podcast guest Alex Harvey has helped Charles with his land. What kind of things did he help Charles with? [31:30] What kinds of goals does Charles have for the property? [41:45] You really need someone on your side to help you through this process, whether it be through the NRCS, the government, or a consultant. [45:45] Charles is excited to know more people in this industry to get a better idea of what his land can do.   Mentioned in This Episode: Charles on LinkedIn Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS services: Nrcs.usda.gov More information on the Alabama Forestry Association: alaforestry.org

Alex Harvey is a consulting Forester and a Registered Professional Forester in Mississippi and Alabama. Alex has helped with the development and pilot of the Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) and will be diving into some of the work he has done to help educate landowners about the value of their land. On today's episode, Alex lists some challenges he has had in his line of work and some of the reasons why a landowner would benefit from working with a consulting forester. There's a lot of bad apples that spoil it for the rest of us and it takes time to build up the trust that you're one of the good guys.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Alex's background. [4:30] How did Alex come up with the name ‘Legacy Land Management' for his company? [7:40] Alex gives a quick recap on what is Heirs property. [12:55] How did Alex first get into this line of work? [21:50] What are some of the reasons why a landowner would want to work with Alex? [24:55] Alex shares a horror story about what happened to an elderly lady's land and timber. [32:15] It took Alex about three years to help landowners make small steps towards the proper use of their land. [34:45] What resources can landowners tap into to get the help that they need? [38:25] What kinds of challenges does Alex run into and why does he love his job?   Mentioned in This Episode: Alex's website: Legacylandmanagement.org Alex's first interview on the show: June 2018 Alex on LinkedIn Website for the U.S. Endowment for Forestry and Communities: Usendowment.org More information on the SFLR Program: Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) More information on USDA NRCS services: Nrcs.usda.gov

Alex Singleton is a Fiber Specialist at International Paper in Port Wentworth, Georgia and he played an instrumental part in Founding the Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) in Charleston, South Carolina. Previously, he founded a conservation curriculum for underserved youth. This career camp helped shape the minds of our students and gave them a sturdy introduction into the forestry and natural resources field! Find out more about Alex and his incredible work on today's episode. Landowners have trust issues when it comes to working with others, and they have every reason to be skeptical.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Alex's background. [4:10] How did Alex first get started in forestry? [8:40] Ms. Balkman was a scary Spanish teacher, but Alex credits her for making the connections necessary to get him introduced to forestry. [13:40] Alex shares what his experience at Mead Westvaco Paper was like. [18:00] Alex started a career camp for minority students in Charleston. The camp was active from 1993 to 2006 and a lot of students were exposed to the natural resource industry during that time! [23:30] How did Alex get introduced to the SFLR program? [26:45] If you're not familiar with how the timber markets work, landowners can get poached by buyers and really lose out on the worth of their timber. [33:45] As Alex was trying to put a program in place for rural African American landowners, the U.S. Endowment gave him a call and was offering a $500,000 grant. [39:35] Once they started the program, the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation had phones ringing off the hook from curious landowners. [46:10] Landowners definitely have trust issues when it comes to working with others, and they have every reason to be skeptical. [51:35] What advice does Alex have for landowners? [55:20] What advice does Alex have for fellow resource professionals?   Mentioned in This Episode: Internationalpaper.com Alex on LinkedIn Heirsproperty.org Usendowment.org Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) Nrcs.usda.gov

Dr. Jennie Stephens is the Executive Director for the Center for Heirs' Property Preservation. At the center, she's responsible for overall strategic planning, revenue generation, financial & staff management, and program operations. Dr. Stephens has dedicated more than 25 years in the non-profit industry and is very passionate about building relationships with people who have experienced a history of abuse when it comes to their land and their rights. Find out more about the important work she does on this week's episode! Landowners are skeptical (and rightfully so) to work with organizations. It takes time to build a good reputation.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Dr. Stephens's background. [4:20] How did the Center For Heirs Property Preservation first get started? [7:45] How has the Center evolved since its creation in 2005? [12:00] The Center was one of the first three to be funded. We are now up to eight new legal centers throughout the U.S. [14:10] How does Dr. Stephens help her clients? [15:50] What kind of barriers do clients typically face that prevents them from moving forward? [17:55] A lot of times, you're asking heirs to make a business decision when they don't even know who the other shareholders are. [19:35] Dr. Stephens shares a couple of examples of how they were able to get over hurdles and build a good reputation for their center. [21:50] Dr. Stephens and her team have resolved over 216 cases since the creation of the Center. [23:25] When land gets lost, it doesn't just impact the family, it impacts the community fundamentally. [24:40] Dr. Stephens shares both a legal and a forestry case that was resolved at the Center. [29:35] What kinds of partners have supported and helped the Center? [34:30] What advice does Dr. Stephens have to include more diversity within the forestry community? [37:20] Dr. Stephens shares some final words of wisdom about land retention.   Mentioned in This Episode: Heirsproperty.org Dr. Stephens on LinkedIn Stateforesters.org NRCS.USDA.gov

Tyrone and Edna Williams are forest landowners at Fourtee Acres, which is located in Enfield, North Carolina. The family farm includes 195 acres total of woodland, farmland, and rental property. Tyrone and Edna own about 62 of those acres. The family farm has been in Tyrone's family for close to 100 years and they host monthly conference calls with the heirs to keep everyone up to date. Not originally from a forestry background, Tyrone credits foresters and community members in their ability to help him fully understand the scope and worth of his land.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:20] A quick intro about Tyrone and Edna's background. [5:10] Tyrone shares a little bit about his family's history and how they've managed to keep their land for over 100 years in the family. [7:10] Up until five to six years ago, Tyrone was not able to say this. What happened back then? [10:15] Tyrone shares the type of help and support he has received to help him keep his land. [17:00] What kinds of barriers have Tyrone and Edna faced along the way? [18:55] What role have partnerships and networking played in managing Tyrone's land? [25:15] How have Tyrone's sons gotten involved in the family land? [30:20] Tyrone has conference calls with heirs from out of state to help them get familiar with the process. [32:15] Tyrone has a large family! During Thanksgiving and family reunions, they have about 20 to 40 family members that attend. [35:00] What kinds of surprises has the Williams family had along the way? [42:15] Tyrone explains what discretionary grants are and what that can mean for landowners. [44:55] What advice does Tyrone have for other landowners? [48:35] What advice does Tyrone have for foresters and other educators? [50:40] Final thoughts: The goal isn't to live forever, but to create something that will.   Mentioned in This Episode: Fourtee Acres Sustainable Forestry and African American Land Retention Program (SFLR) FS.fed.us

Thomas Mitchell is a Professor of Law and Co-Director of the Real Estate and Community Development Law Program at Texas A&M University. An amazing thing has happened in modern history and that's the Uniform Partition of Heirs Property Act. Thomas has been working for over 15 years to get a real estate partitions law updated with regards to heirs property. For decades, rightful landowners have lost their land due to unfair practices, but that has all changed now. Find out more on today's episode.   Key Takeaways: [1:40] A message from Leadership Nature. [2:25] A quick intro about Thomas's background. [3:40] How did Thomas first get started in land retention and land rights? [8:55] What was the process Thomas went through to change the direction of what law he wanted to practice in? [11:55] When Thomas described to his colleague what he wanted to do, his colleague said it was career suicide. [13:25] Thomas is so glad he didn't listen to him because he knows he made the right decision. [16:00] What kinds of issues do people face with heirs' properties? [24:25] When people have inherited property over the generations, a lot of times the property lacks clear ownership titles and that ends up creating a murky lens for the courts on who owns what. [28:00] Real estate developers will often contact a distant relative that owns possibly 1% of the land and try to convince them to do a partition by sale agreement, and by doing this, heirs can lose their entire share. [30:40] On top of this, the courts are using the wrong analysis to determine the worth of the land. [38:10] What has the Uniform Partition of Heirs Property Act has accomplished? [43:55] When Thomas received word his proposal was being selected, he almost fell out of his chair! [47:25] What parts of the partition law will be changed due to this act? [55:20] Many Americans do not make wills for their family. For African American families specifically, only 15% of them have a will. [1:03:40] What results has Thomas seen so far? [1:10:50] Thomas did not do this alone! He credits the network of people who have helped make this possible.   Mentioned in This Episode: Law.tamu.edu Thomas on LinkedIn

Candra Burns is the voice for introverted scientists everywhere and the owner of Talking Forests. She is a natural resource professional and unique resource for anyone in the field who wants to build their social media chops. On today's episode, Candra talks about the importance of social media, the benefits of each social media platform, and how to find the time for it all!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about Candra's background. [3:40] How did Candra first get started in natural resources? [10:20] During every school lesson, Candra would learn about a new subject but it was just the tip of the iceberg. [14:35] What were Candra's first few jobs like? [20:00] Candra explains what her business, Talking Forests, is all about. [23:40] What do foresters and natural resource professionals think about social media? [25:40] How do young people use social media? [27:45] How are foresters missing opportunities by not engaging with their audience online? [30:45] What results has Candra seen so far? [33:50] What are some of the pros and cons of each social media platform? [41:00] If you don't know how to use Facebook or Instagram, that's okay, but if you're not using LinkedIn, you're really missing out. [47:00] Candra explains the power of hashtags. [50:30] How much time does all this social media stuff take?!   Mentioned in This Episode: Talkingforests.com Candra on LinkedIn Email: Candra@Talkingforests.com Eforester.org

John Magruder is the Owner of Three Rivers Forestry and has been a consulting forester for 21 years. John earned his B.S. in Forest Science from Penn State University in 1986. Before going into private practice, John served at the Virginia Department of Forestry as the Area Forester in Essex County, for nearly 12 years. On today's episode, John shares why it's so important to be an involved member of the community and help educate your local representative about the importance of the work you do.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about John's background. [3:40] How did John get started in forestry? [5:50] John wanted to be a chemical engineer at first, but after shadowing someone in the field, he decided he'd rather be a forester, instead. [8:55] What was John's first job in forestry like? [12:10] When John was a junior in college, he and his team had to fight a forest fire for ten days. [14:45] John highly recommends you join the forestry club at your school. [16:15] Why did John switch from the Department of Forestry to his own consultancy firm? [22:50] John is an active participant in political matters and has gotten involved in legislative issues related to forestry. The public needs to be educated in the importance of the work we do. [28:25] What kinds of mentors has John had over the years? [33:40] What types of challenges do new forestry consultants tend to face? [41:40] John shares his thoughts about ACF and some of its benefits. [48:15] Good leadership means you know you're going to make mistakes, but you also know you're going to be learning from them. [48:45] What skills do people in the forestry profession need to be better at? [53:50] What kinds of challenges has John personally run into as a forestry consultant? [56:40] What leadership lessons has John learned over the years?[1:00:40] If you're a young forester, get involved! As older foresters retire, that knowledge will disappear. [1:03:05] The toughest of challenges can be solved. You've just got to work with it.   Mentioned in This Episode: Trfva.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Vaforestry.org Remember the Titans (2000)

Amy McFadden is the Owner of White Oak Forest Management, Inc., which is based in Georgetown, South Carolina. Amy started her forest career with International Paper Company in 1994. Amy also taught at Horry-Georgetown Technical College in the Forest Technician Program and was the department head for four years! On today's show, Amy highlights the importance of getting to know each person on an individual level, the surprising aspects of forestry consulting, and so much more!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Amy's background. [3:25] How did Amy get started in forestry? [6:20] What was Amy's forestry school experience like? [9:00] What was Amy's first job at International Paper like? [13:40] Amy shares a little bit about her job history and what she did after IP. [20:10] What made Amy decide to take a full-time leap into forestry consulting? [22:55] What does Amy's business look like today? [25:55] Amy shares what she wishes she had learned sooner as a forestry consultant. [28:25] Amy is incredibly proud of her team. [30:25] What is the most surprising part about being a forestry consultant? [31:45] Amy shares some of the challenges forestry consultants will face. [33:45] What type of leadership lessons has Amy learned about over the years? [35:25] It's important to have goals for yourself and for your team to help everybody move in the right direction. [36:40] Amy shares why she joined ACF. [39:50] What advice does Amy have for aspiring business owners? [46:40] “Don't let your alligator mouth overload your hummingbird behind.”   Mentioned in This Episode: Whiteoakforestrysc.com Amy on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Leading with Honor, by Lee Ellis

Jerry Tugwell is a Forestry Consultant and the President of Tugwell Consulting Forestry in Asheboro, North Carolina. Jerry has over 38 years of forestry experience and is an active member of the ACF community. At ACF, Jerry has served in many roles including Southern Director Chairman of the Ethics Committee, Vice President, and President of the national branch. On today's episode, Jerry shares what skills he wishes every aspiring forestry consultant knew, timeless leadership lessons, and important resources that'll help foresters with their continued education.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Jerry's background. [3:15] How did Jerry get started in forestry? [4:20] What was Jerry's first job like? [7:25] Jerry describes the wide variety of work you can do as a forestry consultant. [10:00] What does it take to be a forestry consultant? [13:30] What are some of the best ways consulting foresters can continue their education? [16:20] Why is public speaking so important for a forestry consultant? [17:45] Jerry shares why being a consulting forester is so rewarding. [19:05] What types of challenges will forestry consultants most often face? [23:15] What kinds of mentors has Jerry had over the years? [27:40] Jerry shares what his first leadership position was like. [36:35] Where are forestry and natural resources headed as professions? [38:15] You have to be open to change as you advance in your career.   Mentioned in This Episode: Tugwellforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Leadership Lessons of Robert E. Lee: Tips, Tactics, and Strategies for Leaders and Managers, by Bil Holton

Richard “Carbo” Carbonetti is the Owner and Senior Vice President at Land Vest, a brokerage, consulting, and timberland services firm. The firm oversees and manages 1.7 million acres in the Northeast U.S. Carbo is a licensed forester in Maine, New Hampshire, and Vermont. On today's episode, Carbo discusses the benefits of working in consulting forestry, how the industry can improve as a whole, and why foresters need to get better at communicating their value to the community.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Carbo's background. [4:20] How did Carbo get into forestry? [9:40] What does Carbo love about being a forester? [12:45] Carbo didn't know anything about running a business when he started. [17:10] Carbo used to drive his classmates crazy because he asked ‘too many' questions. [20:15] You gotta embrace change in your life. Carbo knows so many people who are paralyzed with fear because of change. [25:30] What advice does Carbo have for aspiring forestry consultants? [28:20] It's important to remember that people think differently than you do. [39:45] Carbo shares an example of ‘bad actors' in the industry. [43:40] Carbo has been an ACF member for the last 40 years. What are some of the benefits of joining? [49:40] What kinds of mentors has Carbo had over the years? [54:30] Forestry programs have changed greatly since Carbo was last in school and compensation rates have not kept up either. [1:04:50] A lot of foresters actually undercharge for their services. [1:11:15] What's one thing about leadership that Carbo wished he'd learned sooner?   Mentioned in This Episode: Landvest.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org

Mike Warner is the Owner of ArborTerra Consulting, which is located in Lizton, Indiana. With over 40 years of experiences and always being an entrepreneur at heart, Mike lists some of the benefits and challenges of owning your own business. Mike details the importance of writing your dreams and goals on paper early on in your career so you always have an idea of what to aspire to! Find out more about Mike and his expertise on this week's show!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Mike's background. [4:20] How did Mike get into forestry? [7:40] What was Mike's first job like? [8:40] Mike was inspired by his first boss, Fred Woods, and he helped Mike along the way with his sage advice. [11:00] Mike remembers another mentor, Jim Akers, who helped him set firm career goals early on. [13:45] What kind of transition did Mike go through to successfully start two businesses (at the same time). [16:15] What kind of skills do people need in order to be considered a good forestry consultant? [20:10] Mike knew the Latin names of trees but he didn't know how to run a business until he got his feet wet. [20:25] What does Mike wish he'd learned sooner about managing people? [23:50] What is Mike most proud of, so far? [25:20] How does Mike find his talent? [27:15] What makes ArborTerra different compared to other consulting companies? [29:30] What kinds of surprises has Mike discovered along the way? [31:05] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation? [33:15] How has being a member of ACF helped Mike's career? [40:30] Don't be afraid to try some new directions, especially if the current one isn't working!   Mentioned in This Episode: ArborTerra.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership: Follow Them and People Will Follow You,by John C. Maxwell and Steven R. Covey

Phil Sneed is the owner of Blackwell Creek Forestry as well as a Senior Forester. He has over 20 years of experience in managing forests and wildlife habitat and has worked with hundreds of landowners and organizations over the years. In addition, Phil has spent the last 15 years on wildland firefighting assignments in the Western U.S., serving as a Crew Boss and Public Information Officer.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Phil's background. [3:45] How did Phil get into forestry? [8:50] What was Phil's first job like after coming back from Saudi Arabia and Kuwait? [17:00] It took some time for Phil to really find his place in forestry. [22:10] What skills do you need to have to get into wildland fire management? [27:15] Phil is really grateful he keeps up-to-date on his wildland firefighting education. [29:00] What has contributed to Phil's early success? [33:35] What kinds of mentors has Phil had over the years? [37:00] Phil shares some of the challenges a forestry consultant faces. [41:00] What was Phil's first leadership position like? [48:15] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation?   Mentioned in This Episode: Blackwellcreekforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Glory (1989) Deep Survival, by Laurence Gonzales

Matt Dowdy started his own company, Dowdy's Forest & Land Management, in 2007 and it's a full-service forest consulting firm in the state of Virginia. With slightly over 26 years of forestry consulting experience, Matt has a lot of wisdom to share on today's podcast! Find out what's it like being your own boss, lessons Matt wished he'd learned sooner, and where the future of forestry is headed!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Matt's background. [3:10] How did Matt get into forestry? [4:45] What was Matt's first job like? [7:10] Matt shares what he likes about being a forestry consultant. [8:35] What kinds of lessons has Matt learned along the way, that surprised him? [9:25] As a forestry consultant, you're pretty much a middleman, working on behalf of your client. [10:55] How does Matt work with clients who don't know what they want? [12:25] What kinds of challenges has Matt faced so far? [13:25] Matt shares some of his first leadership experiences and the lessons he learned. [16:00] Even though Matt is the owner of his own business, his clients are really his boss. [19:40] What kinds of mentors has Matt had, over the years? [21:20] What makes a good forestry consultant? [22:45] Matt shares some of his wisdom for those aspiring forestry consultants out there! [23:05] Where is the future of forestry headed for the younger generation? [29:25] What has Matt's experience at ACF been like? [34:35] Once you realize you're wasting your time, move on!   Mentioned in This Episode: Dowdysforest.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Gladiator (2000)

David Henderson is the owner of Henderson Forestry Consultants and has been serving landowners in the North Carolina, South Carolina, and Virginia area for over 30 years. David says it took him a good eight years to get the hang of owning his own business and another 20 years to get a good hang on consulting! David is a wise soul with lots of wisdom about consulting, owning a business, and what he wishes he'd learned sooner!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:40] A quick intro about David's background. [3:05] How did David get into forestry? [5:40] What was David's first job like? [9:25] How did David become a forestry consultant? [11:30] It took David eight years to get his business off the ground and another 20 years before he felt like he was a consultant. [13:10] What does David wish he learned sooner? [17:10] What does David's team look like today? [19:45] Working with new technology is a struggle for older foresters, which is why it's important to bring in new and young talent into the mix. [23:40] What is David most proud of so far? [27:05] What does David wish he'd learned sooner in his career? [29:00] David offers some words of wisdom for young foresters looking to excel in their career. [30:40] David dives into ACF and how they've helped him in his career. [33:30] Where does David think the forestry industry is headed? [38:25] What kinds of mentors has David had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: HFCforestry.com ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org American Canopy: Trees, Forests, and the Making of a Nation, by Eric Rutkow

Justin Miller is the Founder and President of Green Timber Consulting Foresters. Established in 2001, Green Timber currently staffs 8 foresters and serves clients throughout the upper great lakes region in Michigan. In 2017, Justin was recognized at the School of Forest Resource Environmental Sciences as Outstanding Aluminist for his contributions in the forestry industry and students at MTU. On today's show, Justin explains how you don't need to have a ‘traditional' path to get into forestry and offers key advice for aspiring forestry consulting students.   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:50] A quick intro about Justin's background. [4:25] How did Justin get into forestry and natural resources? [6:10] What types of jobs did Justin when he first got out of college? [7:50] How do people typically get into forestry consulting? [9:00] You can get started in consulting through other ways. You don't have to join a big firm in order to be a consulting forester. [10:25] What types of clients does Justin have at Green Timber? [11:30] What kind of problems does the average client have when they first come to Green Timber? [13:55] Justin shares a little bit about the differences in environment and silvicultural characteristics of his area. [16:00] What's fun about being a forester and a forestry consultant? [19:40] Justin explains the ACF vetting process and what you need to do to join. [21:55] Justin has learned so much material through ACF that wasn't available at his university. [24:35] What did Justin wished he learned sooner about the industry? [26:55] What do people ought to know about becoming a supervisor? [32:15] What makes a good leader? [33:05] What advice does Justin have for aspiring forest professionals? [36:55] Justin talks about some of the exciting projects he's worked on in the past. [41:00] What kind of mentors has Justin had over the years?   Mentioned in This Episode: Greentimberforestry.com Justin on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Eforester.org Miracle (2004)

Tom Hittle is a Forester with 30 years of experience as a Forestry Consultant and is the Senior Vice President of Project Coordination at  Steigerwaldt Land Services. Tom's experiences include due diligence for timberland acquisitions, resource analysis, and forest management planning, and systems development and implementation! With Tom's background, you don't want to miss what he has to say when it comes to his line of work and what he looks for in young talent!   Key Takeaways: [1:05] A message from Leadership Nature. [1:45] A quick intro about Tom's background. [3:50] How did Tom get into forestry and natural resources? [6:00] What kind of work has Tom done over the years? [8:10] What's the most interesting part about being a consulting forester? [9:20] Tom shares the types of technology he works with in his field. [10:55] Tom has a lot of fun on the job! He shares some of the things he's enjoyed the most about his job so far. [12:55] Tom shares a little bit about the history of Steigerwaldt Land Services. [15:15] What advice does Tom have for those who want to become a forestry consultant? [20:25] What types of challenges do forestry consultants face? [24:15] Tom shares how he uses his introversion to his advantages while on the job! [26:00] What was it like when Tom first started supervising people? [27:15] What is one leadership lesson Tom wished he learned sooner? [28:55] Tom shares the types of mentors he has had throughout his career. [32:25] Tom has been working hard to develop relationships with students early on in their career, even if they don't have a position currently open at the moment. [35:35] Tom recommends watching the Apollo 13 movie!   Mentioned in This Episode: Steigerwaldt.com Tom on LinkedIn ACF-foresters.org Apollo 13