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Frank Schwartz is a husband—for nearly 25 years—and a father of three girls. He has served in several bishoprics, elders quorum presidencies, high councils, high priest group leaderships and Young Men presidencies (back when those were a thing), and a variety of other callings over the years. Frank did undergraduate and graduate work in Psychology and worked in television before starting a small, boutique, corporate communications firm. Most recently he has worked for a client in the healthcare payments space. Frank joined F3 in 2014 and has served in the national leadership in different capacities prior to taking over as Nant'an/CEO in 2024. Links Fellowshipping Men in Elders Quorum | An Interview with Frank Schwartz Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights 00:02:40 – Discussion on Elders Quorum Engagement 00:03:01 – Personal Experience with F3 and Transformation 00:05:11 – The Importance of Community for Men 00:09:18 – The Need for Transformational Experiences 00:10:08 – Finding Truth and Community 00:12:13 – The Simplicity of Gathering Men 00:14:02 – The Role of Food in Building Brotherhood 00:15:32 – The Power of Gathering in Elders Quorum 00:18:00 – Authenticity in Church Leadership 00:20:56 – Creating Comfortable Spaces for Discussion 00:22:04 – Personal Transformation After Warrior Heart Bootcamp 00:23:24 – The Quest for Personal Purpose 00:25:05 – Shifting Perspectives on Relationships 00:30:00 – The Broader Plan and God’s Purpose 00:33:55 – Limiting Perspectives and Personal Growth 00:37:40 – The Journey of Self-Discovery and Adventure Frank and Kurt discuss approaches to engaging men in elders quorum and fostering brotherhood within the Latter-day Saint community. They explore the importance of transformational experiences and how simple gatherings can lead to deeper connections among men. Key Insights Transformational Experiences: Men often seek meaningful experiences that can lead to personal growth and connection. Frank shares how participating in F3 and Warrior Heart boot camps has profoundly changed his perspective on leadership and relationships. Gathering for Brotherhood: The act of gathering, whether for workouts or casual meet-ups, is crucial for building community. Frank emphasizes that men need spaces where they can connect and share their experiences authentically. Authenticity in Leadership: Leaders should prioritize creating environments where vulnerability is encouraged. This can be achieved by moving away from rigid lesson structures and focusing on genuine interactions. Shifting Perspectives: Frank discusses the importance of recognizing limiting beliefs and perspectives that can hinder personal growth. Leaders should help others see beyond their current views to embrace a broader understanding of their purpose. Simplicity in Engagement: Simple gatherings, such as meeting for hot dogs or casual discussions, can effectively draw men together and foster meaningful conversations, making it easier for them to engage with one another. Leadership Applications Focus on Gathering: Latter-day Saint leaders can prioritize creating informal gatherings that encourage connection among men, such as breakfast meetings or service projects, rather than strictly adhering to lesson plans. Encourage Vulnerability: Leaders should model vulnerability and openness in their interactions, creating a safe space for others to share their thoughts and feelings, which can lead to stronger bonds within the group. Challenge Limiting Beliefs: Leaders can facilitate discussions that help members identify and overcome limiting beliefs, encouraging them to explore their divine potential and purpose within the community. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Brother Eric Richards teaches Institute and Seminary in the Utah North Area, is a member of the Veritas society, a contributing author for the Patheos project, and a member of the International Writers and Editors Association. He has served in several Bishoprics, twice on High Councils, in the Stake Presidency, and now serves as a Bishop. For five years, Brother Richards and his team wrote the Online Seminary Curriculum. He presents at BYU and BYU-Idaho Education Week and is the author of Preparing for the Second Coming, Come Follow Me: Words of the Week, and was a contributing author for Deseret Book's “Hear Him” project. He's a certified Neuroscience Coach, and a great pickleball player in his free time. Brother Richards grew up attending the Mountain View Baptist Church in San Diego before missionaries baptized him and his mom. He served a mission in Honduras, and his son later served in the same mission. He first moved to Utah after meeting his future wife at EFY, and taught Seminary and played water polo and volleyball for Utah State University. They have been married for 27 years. Most of all, he loves teaching and being with valiant Christians around the world. Links Preparing for the Second Coming Come Follow Me: Words of the Week Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights How can we lead in a way that connects members deeply to Jesus Christ? This conversation moves beyond administrative duties to explore practical frameworks for empowering members, delivering difficult counsel, and fostering a revelation-driven ward culture. 00:02:37 – Eric Richards’s Background and Experience 00:06:05 – Core Messages and Focus on Jesus Christ 00:07:42 – Approaching Leadership and Interviews 00:12:21 – The Importance of the Bishop’s Helpline 00:13:05 – Interview Techniques for Revelation 00:20:03 – The Role of Hope in Leadership 00:24:11 – Addressing Pornography in Ministering Interviews 00:30:51 – Supporting Speakers and Teachers in Sacrament Meetings 00:35:07 – Encouraging Discussion in Sunday School 00:39:26 – Inspired Counsel on Callings 00:45:12 – The Bishop’s Prayer List and Personal Ministry 00:46:33 – Ministering Interviews and Strengthening Faith Key Insights Connecting to Christ: All leadership efforts should ultimately prioritize helping individuals develop a personal relationship with the Savior rather than simply maintaining organizational functions. Four Levels of Problem Solving: Leaders can empower members by identifying their current “level” of problem-solving: Level 1 (bringing a completed solution), Level 2 (proposing options), Level 3 (sharing findings/research), or Level 4 (simply asking for the answer). The “Hot Sauce” Technique: Delivering difficult correction is most effective when used as a “compliment sandwich,” where hard truths are encased in genuine love to ensure the counsel is “metabolized” rather than rejected. Facilitating Personal Revelation: Leaders should serve as a “Sherpa” or “guide on the side,” asking questions that invite the member to receive their own answers from the Spirit rather than providing them directly. Wellness Baselines: Richards emphasizes checking a member’s physical (sleep, diet, exercise) and spiritual (prayer, scripture, temple) “baselines” to address holistic needs before tackling complex emotional or behavioral issues. Heart-Led Vulnerability: To create safety, leaders should model vulnerability in sacrament meetings and classes, prioritizing personal, “heart-led” experiences over purely informational “head-led” teaching. Leadership Applications Member Empowerment: Instead of solving every problem, a leader can ask a member where they are on the 1–4 problem-solving scale, encouraging them to find and present their own solutions for the leader’s approval. Ward Council Dynamics: Councils are most effective when members “check their ego” and evaluate every proposal through “three hats”: their perspective as an individual, as a friend/neighbor, and through their specific stewardship. Joyful Ward Culture: Leaders can foster a “Church of Joy” by normalizing post-meeting interactions and using specific roles, such as “stenographers” to document the ward’s spiritual history and community connections. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Stephan Taeger is an assistant professor in Ancient Scripture at Brigham Young University. He received a PhD from BYU in Instructional Design and Technology. Stephan's research focuses on Homiletics (the study of preaching), narrative instruction, and ancient scripture. He is also an author and co-host of the RVVL podcast with David Butler. Links Y Religion: Justification by Faith The Science of Speaking in Sacrament Meeting | An Interview with Stephan Taeger President Spencer W. Kimball: “Jesus the Perfect Leader” Sermons and talks by Timothy Keller on YouTube Stephan Taeger: “Declared Guiltless: Justification by Faith in the Latter-day Saint Classroom” Toxic Perfectionism at Church | An Interview with Justin Dyer Justification: God’s Plan, Paul’s Vision N.T. Wright on YouTube Weakness Is Not Sin: The Liberating Distinction That Awakens Our Strengths RVVL Podcast StephanTaeger.com Tim Keller: Sin as Self-Deceit Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights 00:04:00 – Stephan Taeger’s Background and Teaching Focus 00:05:00 – Influence of Tim Keller on Understanding Justification 00:06:00 – Justification Explained 00:09:00 – The Relationship Between Justification and Works 00:10:30 – Understanding the Role of Covenants 00:11:30 – The Importance of Faithfulness 00:12:30 – The Marriage Analogy for Justification 00:13:30 – The Role of the Sacrament in Justification 00:14:30 – Defining Sanctification 00:15:30 – The Process of Becoming More Like God 00:17:00 – The Role of Obedience in Response to Grace 00:18:00 – Addressing Perfectionism in Leadership 00:19:00 – The Impact of Sin on Community 00:20:00 – The Role of Bishops in Restricting Ordinances 00:22:00 – Understanding Restrictions as Support 00:23:00 – The Nature of Punishment vs. Guidance 00:24:00 – Mental Health and Perfectionism 00:25:00 – Addressing Sexual Development and Sin 00:26:00 – The Importance of Striving for Sanctification 00:27:00 – The Role of the Bishop in Mental Health 00:28:00 – The Challenge of Perfectionism 00:29:00 – The Concept of Forgiveness 00:30:00 – The Nature of Grace in the Gospel Key Insights Justification Defined: Justification is described as being pardoned from sin and declared guiltless, occurring when individuals enter a covenant relationship with God through faith, repentance, baptism, and receiving the Holy Ghost. Sanctification Explained: Sanctification is the ongoing process of becoming more like God, involving a change in one's nature, thoughts, and desires over time, as individuals strive to live in accordance with their covenants. The Role of Grace: Grace is central to understanding both justification and sanctification. It emphasizes that salvation is a gift from God, not solely based on individual works, and that individuals can have confidence in their justified state. Addressing Perfectionism: Many Latter-day Saints struggle with perfectionism, often feeling unworthy despite understanding the doctrine. The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing one’s worth as inherent and not solely based on actions. Mental Health Considerations: The discussion touches on the intersection of mental health and religious beliefs, particularly regarding OCD and scrupulosity, emphasizing the need for compassion and understanding in addressing these issues. Leadership Applications Fostering a Culture of Grace: Leaders can create an environment where members feel secure in their justified state, encouraging them to engage in the gospel without the burden of shame or guilt. Understanding Individual Needs: By recognizing that unmet needs may drive certain behaviors, leaders can approach members with empathy, focusing on support rather than judgment. Promoting Continuous Growth: Leaders should emphasize the importance of striving for sanctification, framing commandments and ordinances as opportunities for growth rather than as mere obligations, thus inspiring members to engage more fully in their spiritual journeys. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

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This is a rebroadcast of a podcast episode from Teaching Restored, a podcast exploring the how of teaching the restored gospel of Jesus Christ to bring others unto Him, helping gospel teachers become more confident, converted, and consecrated. Hosts Kevin Jones and Julie Hillyard are both former guests on the Leading Saints Podcast and you can join Kevin for further teaching-related discussion in Zion Lab. Links Teaching Restored Teaching Restored on YouTube @teachingrestored Teaching Sunday School with Questions | An Interview with Kevin Jones Stimulating Sunday School Discussion… But Not Too Much | An Interview with Julie Hillyard Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Kevin and Julie explore the concept of “flipped” learning as a model for “home-centered, church-supported” gospel study. They discuss transitioning from a lecture-based church experience to a “laboratory” environment where members act as a council to solve problems and apply doctrines learned at home. Key Insights The Flipped Classroom Model: In a traditional setting, teachers lecture and students do “homework” alone; in a flipped model, students learn the material at home and use class time to work through practical applications with the teacher's help. Defining Scriptural Understanding: Citing Elder Bednar, Kevin notes that scriptural “understanding” is not merely mental comprehension, but occurs when the heart confirms what the mind has learned. The “Preparer” as the Primary Learner: The person who prepares a talk or lesson historically learns the most. The goal of a flipped church is to elevate every member to the status of a “preparer” before they arrive at Sunday meetings. Accountability Through System Changes: To motivate home study, Kevin suggests “blowing up” the traditional lecture system. If members know they will be required to participate in a solution-based council rather than listen to a lecture, they are more likely to engage with the materials at home. Utilizing Existing Tools: Julie highlights that the Come, Follow Me manuals and Gospel Library app already provide the necessary “lab” prompts—such as writing a eulogy for Joseph Smith—but these are often ignored in favor of passive reading. Leadership Applications Transitioning from Teacher to Moderator: Leaders can “release” traditional teachers and instead call “discussion heads” or moderators. This shifts the burden of learning onto the quorum or class members and prevents “spiritual engines” from turning off during a lecture. Implementing Solution-Based Councils: Instead of sharing “happy thoughts,” leaders should present specific ward or family conundrums—such as helping elderly members attend the temple—and ask the council to generate actionable solutions. Closing the Feedback Loop: When a council generates a solution, leaders must take those ideas to the Ward Council or Bishopric and report back to the members. This demonstrates that their participation has a direct impact on the ward’s operation. 00:04:22 – Introduction to Flipped School Concept 00:06:25 – New Year’s Resolutions and Teaching Goals 00:07:07 – Understanding Flipped School Model 00:09:05 – Home-Centered, Church-Supported Learning 00:10:24 – The Role of Preparation in Learning 00:12:01 – The Importance of Family Engagement 00:13:05 – Elder Oaks on Family Togetherness 00:17:02 – The Challenge of Utilizing Extra Time 00:19:04 – Elder Bednar on Understanding and Revelation 00:21:44 – The Need for Personal Preparation 00:24:51 – Tools for Effective Gospel Study 00:28:32 – Practical Application of Come Follow Me 00:30:32 – The Role of Motivation in Learning 00:32:08 – Innovative Elders Quorum Model 00:36:05 – Benefits of Council-Based Learning 00:40:34 – Youth Engagement in Problem Solving 00:43:00 – The Importance of Practice in Councils 00:46:34 – Reframing Youth Teaching Opportunities The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Leading Into 2026: Executive Pastor Insights Momentum is real. So is the pressure. This free report draws from the largest dedicated survey of Executive Pastors ever, revealing what leaders are actually facing as they prepare for 2026. Why staff health is the #1 pressure point Where churches feel hopeful — and stretched thin What worked in 2025 and is worth repeating Clear decision filters for the year ahead Download the Full Report Free PDF • Built for Executive Pastors • Instant access Welcome back to another episode of the unSeminary podcast. Today we’re sitting down with an executive pastor from a prevailing church to unpack what leaders like you shared in the National Executive Pastor Survey, so you can lead forward with clarity. We're joined by Jeremy Peterson, Executive Pastor at One Church, a fast-growing multisite church with five physical locations across New Hampshire and a strong online presence. Jeremy is also a key leader behind the Executive Pastor Summit (XPS), investing in the health and effectiveness of second-chair leaders across the country. In this conversation, Jeremy reflects on insights from the National Executive Pastor Survey and shares practical wisdom for strengthening one of the most critical—and often fragile—relationships in the church: the partnership between the lead pastor and executive pastor. Is your relationship with your lead pastor thriving, strained, or somewhere in between? Are you feeling neutral when you know the relationship needs to be strong? Jeremy offers clear, experience-tested guidance on building trust, maintaining alignment, and leading with integrity in the second chair. Why trust matters more than ever. // The survey revealed that just over one in five executive pastors feel uncertainty or strain in their relationship with their lead pastor. While not a majority, Jeremy believes the number may actually be higher in practice. He notes that many executive pastors quietly wrestle with trust—either feeling that they are not fully trusted by their lead pastor or struggling to trust their lead pastor themselves. Because the lead pastor and executive pastor sit at the intersection of vision and execution, even small fractures in trust can ripple throughout the entire organization. Consistency builds confidence. // One of the clearest ways trust erodes is through inconsistency. Jeremy emphasizes the importance of being dependable—doing what you say you're going to do, following through on commitments, and showing up with a calm, steady presence. When executive pastors overcommit and underdeliver, even unintentionally, trust begins to erode. Over time, staff and lead pastors alike start to hesitate, slowing decision-making and momentum. Reliability, Jeremy notes, is one of the most underrated leadership strengths. Truthfulness over comfort. // Another major trust-builder is honesty—especially when the truth is uncomfortable. Executive pastors often act as filters, but withholding information eventually backfires. Metrics like attendance, giving, or volunteer engagement will surface eventually, and surprises damage credibility. Jeremy argues that leaders would rather hear hard truth early than manage damage later. Speaking truth with humility strengthens trust far more than protecting feelings in the short term. Clarity before problem-solving. // Jeremy observes that executive pastors are wired to fix problems, sometimes before fully understanding the lead pastor's intent. When clarity is missing, misalignment follows. At One Church, Jeremy maintains a standing weekly lunch with the lead pastor to ensure they are synced on priorities, vision, and concerns. These rhythms allow for shared understanding and prevent assumptions from growing into frustration. Trust, he explains, grows when leaders take time to listen before acting. No surprises. // A core operating principle between Jeremy and his lead pastor is the “no surprises rule.” Whether it's service times, staffing changes, or ministry initiatives, quick five-minute conversations prevent hours of repair later. Jeremy encourages executive pastors to drop into offices, make short calls, or send clarifying texts rather than letting uncertainty linger. Small misunderstandings left unaddressed often become major relational landmines. Prayer as a leadership discipline. // One of Jeremy's most personal insights is the impact of daily prayer for his lead pastor and staff. Rather than praying only during crises, he now prays intentionally for his lead pastor, lead pastor’s spouse, and children by name. He's seen this practice soften frustrations, realign perspective, and strengthen unity across the team. Trust sets the speed of the church. // Referencing Stephen M. R. Covey's Speed of Trust, Jeremy explains that trust is not just relational—it's operational. High-trust teams move faster, communicate clearer, and recover quicker from failure. Low-trust teams slow down, double-check motives, and avoid risk. For executive pastors, cultivating trust is not optional; it's foundational to healthy church culture. To learn more about One Church and reach out to Jeremy, visit church.one. For executive pastors looking to grow in their leadership, learn more about the Executive Pastor Summit at xpsummit.org. Watch the full episode below: Thank You for Tuning In! There are a lot of podcasts you could be tuning into today, but you chose unSeminary, and I'm grateful for that. If you enjoyed today's show, please share it by using the social media buttons you see at the left hand side of this page. Also, kindly consider taking the 60-seconds it takes to leave an honest review and rating for the podcast on iTunes, they're extremely helpful when it comes to the ranking of the show and you can bet that I read every single one of them personally! Lastly, don't forget to subscribe to the podcast on iTunes, to get automatic updates every time a new episode goes live! Episode Transcript Rich Birch — Hey friends, welcome to the unSeminary podcast. We are in the middle of these special episodes we’ve been doing where we’re reflecting back on what you said in the National Executive Pastor Survey. And what we’re doing is bringing executive pastors from prevailing churches on to really help us wrestle through some of the things that we saw and ultimately to provide some help for you as you launch here into 2026. Today, it’s our privilege to have the executive pastor of all executive pastors, Jeremy Peterson with us from One Curch. It’s a fantastic church, a multi-site church in Northeastern United States. They have five, if I’m counting correctly, outpost locations in New Hampshire, plus church online, plus Jeremy’s involved in a leading XPS, a great conference for executive pastors and and and and campus pastors. And he does all kinds of amazing stuff. So Jeremy, welcome to the show. So glad you’re here.Jeremy Peterson — It’s quite the introduction. Thanks, Rich, for having me.Rich Birch — This is the problem you become you become a more than one-time guest. And I’m like, what do I say? He’s amazing. That’s what you should say. Tell us a little bit about One Church, to set the context for people, understand a little bit about your background, where you’re at.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, so I spent the first 17 years in ministry in Texas, and I’ve been here for 12 and a half years now, and it’s it’s pretty wild. I said I would never be on the mission field. I grew up as a missionary kid, and so being here, I really feel like I am on the mission field. I’ve been here 12 and a half years, and we just celebrated like our 4,000th person that’s been baptized… Rich Birch — Amazing. Jeremy Peterson — …since I’ve been here. And so it’s just it’s just been quite the ride being a part of what God’s doing and just trying not to mess it up.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so good. Well, this thing we’re looking at today to kind of kick the conversation off, there was a a stat that jumped out to me from our study. 22.32% of executive pastors, that’s just over one in five, are either uncertain or experiencing strain with their lead pastor. Now, I know that that’s a minority number. It’s not like two-thirds are like struggling with this. It’s it’s It’s just over one in five.Rich Birch — But to me, that’s still a hauntingly large number that one in five executive pastors we would bump into and say, I’m not sure that that relationship is working well. So I’d love to start the conversation there. Why do you think the lead pastor and executive pastor relationship, why is there kind of tension there? Why would people be experiencing that? And and personally, I think, man, that relationship’s got to be strong for the the health of the church. But help us understand, maybe set the problem up for us. What what do you think is going on there when that relationship is strained?Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, it’s interesting to stat, Rich, because talking to a lot of executive pastors around the country like you do, I feel like that number may even be a little bit higher. Rich Birch — Right. I think so surveys are incredibly helpful, but I feel like one of the biggest challenges or conversations that I’m having on a regular basis with other executive pastors is I’m not sure the lead pastor trusts me. Sometimes it’s like, I’m not sure that I trust my lead pastor.Jeremy Peterson — And so I think there’s definitely a tension, which I think it’s, there there are two roles that are so incredibly crucial for the church, right. You have either the cedar senior or lead pastor, who’s really the one casting the vision. And you’ve got the executive pastor in that second role or that second chair, that’s really called to like help execute on the vision. And when there’s like, trust or mistrust, lack of trust, whatever it may be, that can cause a lot of, i think, tension and frustration if it’s not if it’s not addressed in some capacity.Rich Birch — Yeah. And I do get these calls as well. I sometimes what happens is i’ll I’ll be talking to an executive pastor, maybe I’m on site and they’ll pull me aside and they’ll say, you know, I just love my lead pastor. So fantastic. They’re an amazing vision-caster. They do such a great job. And then they they rattle off all this real positive stuff. And then they’ll say, but can you help me get better at this relationship how do I… Or it’ll be a lead pastor will pull me aside and say oh i just i love the executive pastor here and they’ll same thing rattle off that person’s so good at getting stuff done and they manage the team so well and never worry about money stuff, and and then there’s a but. But could you help me get better at that relationship like ah it’s like we’re struggling around this. Rich Birch — What would be some early signs in conversations that you’re having that maybe there’s the trust is starting to erode a bit that that’s drifting towards this kind of, Ooh, this is things are not in a good place. What are some of the telltale signs in those conversations that you see? Ooh, we maybe have a trust problem here.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah. Trust is really interesting because I feel like, um, really time builds trust. I mean, I feel like I’m, I usually kind of err on the side of like, hey I’ll trust you until you, until you cause reasons to bring like, untrust or whatever that may be… Rich Birch — Right. Jeremy Peterson — …or or break the trust. Because it takes, I feel like time, time is what really builds on trust, but it’s something that can be also lost overnight. Rich Birch — Very quickly.Jeremy Peterson — And so, um, I think a few things that I’ve noticed over the years, As trust begins to erode, I think there’s ah a few things that I would that I would hit on. I think um a few of them is just as being consistent. So like as an executive pastor, are you like are you reliable? Are you are you dependable? Are you doing what you say you’re going to do? Are you coming in with like a calm calm spirit? Sometimes senior pastors or lead pastors can be all over the place. They can be upset or frustrated, and if you kind of come in as like the is the constant like in the midst of a storm and you can kind of calm that down a little bit, I think that that’s that’s really helpful. Jeremy Peterson — I think a big part of it is just is being truthful. So like in the consistency, are you being truthful? Because a senior pastor needs somebody who can speak the truth into them. Most of most staff even other um I think a lot of senior pastors they’re just not very trusting people by nature, and so I think when you have somebody who can speak truth into you, I think it actually starts developing and growing the trust. I feel like if you’re the same time i feel like if you’re holding back all the truth, I feel like like trust starts eroding over time if you’re holding back some of the truth. Jeremy Peterson — So take something like weekly attendance, right? Senior pastors, lead pastors really, really care about seeing like about attendance. But if you are not being like fully truthful or transparent, little if you start holding some of the information, the information is going to come out in some capacity. Rich Birch — Right. Jeremy Peterson — And so I think if you start holding on to that, that can start breaking or even eroding the trust over time. So I think that consistency is a is a huge thing. I think another part of it is… Rich Birch — Yeah. I think… Jeremy Peterson — …oh go ahead.Rich Birch — No, no, I was just going say, it’s amazing how, and what was that poem? Like everything I learned about life I learned in kindergarten. It’s amazing though, how much the just the core idea of like, do what you say, do what you said you were going to do. Jeremy Peterson — Yeah.Rich Birch — Like it’s, but it’s amazing how for some leaders we, they seem to struggle with that, that it’s like, well, you said you were going to do this. Like, why did you not do it? It’s incredible. What else else were going to say there?Jeremy Peterson — Oh yeah, the other thing was just going to add is I think clarity is so crucial. You’ve been an executive pastor. I think sometimes we go into this like problem solving mode and we’re constantly trying to think of like, how do we solve this problem? How do we how do we get in front of it?Jeremy Peterson — And so a lot of times we don’t even have clarity, even necessarily around what the senior pastor or lead pastor are trying to accomplish. And we’ve already gone into like fix it mode before even we even have a full picture of like what’s trying to be accomplished. And if you’re not constantly like syncing up in some capacity with the senior pastor, I think that that’s where some of the trust can break over time. Jeremy Peterson — So like I have a standing lunch every single Monday, regardless of what’s going on, unless we’re on vacation, we get together and we sync up every single Monday to have a conversation. And I remember initially it was like, well I don’t know that I can commit to a, you know, weekly lunch time and doing this. And so unless there’s some random exception for us, Mondays is really that chance to be able to sync up, make sure that we’re on the same page. And and I think really in that time, kind of not only hear like what’s God placed on your heart, but but I’m building camaraderie.Jeremy Peterson — So like, and by camaraderie, I don’t I don’t feel like in any sense, like you as an executive pastor and lead pastor need to be best friends. But I feel like having some kind of common interests where you can you can spend some time together, you can have conversations that are not just work related, but a lot of it’s also about like hey what’s going on in your life. Like what’s happening not just here at the church but what’s happening in your own life? What’s going on? Like like being aware of those things, I think the more you can have those conversations it’s not just all about work all the time, I think that that helps build trust builds that relationship with your senior lead pastor as well.Rich Birch — Yeah, I’d love to come back to that the kind of friendship, co-worker relationship thing there.Jeremy Peterson — YeahRich Birch — But you said something earlier that caught my attention, this idea of a standing lunch on Mondays. Are there any other, in your relationship with Bo, a part of why I was excited to talk to you about this is as an outsider, I perceive you guys are like, those guys seem to like working with each other.Rich Birch — They’re like, the fact that you’ve been there for 12 years and you continue to be there is a sign of that and vice versa. He continues to love working with you and it’s a prevailing church. You guys are taking new ground. Mondays, lunchtime, that’s a core behavior practice, intentional practice. Are there other things that you’re doing as you think about engaging with him in a way that build trust or build that relationship?Jeremy Peterson — That’s a great question. So I think two things is, I will constantly drop into his office and have a five minute conversation, or make a five minute phone call. I’ve realized that over the years, how much time and probably pain I could have spared both of us… Rich Birch — Right. Jeremy Peterson — …had we just dropped in and had those conversations. And so kind of a a best practice that we would have now is like, hey, pick up the the phone and let’s have a five minute conversation… Rich Birch — Right. Jeremy Peterson — …instead of like potentially hours on the back end of things that we may have to undo or repair just because you know you may have had a question, doubt, frustration, whatever it may have been like. Just go ahead and voice those things and let’s have those conversations and then let’s move on versus like dwelling on it. Because I think that’s where the enemy does a really good job getting a foothold. And it’s like, hey, if I can just create a little little doubt or a little dissension here, then I can help break away and erode that trust.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. Could you give me an example, that’s maybe not too close to home, of what one of those five minute things would be? Because I think that’s a good insight that like, hey, I should just like pick up the phone or drop by and like, hey, here’s something either I heard I can I can see that or I’ve thought of a similar thing around, like I see something that’s getting going and I’m like, I could wait to meet with the executive team and everybody or like, I but I really should just get my lead pastor’s thoughts on where his head’s at on this issue. Because if this thing gets too far down the road… Jeremy Peterson — Yeah. Rich Birch — …you know, we could be causing pain. What would be some examples of the kind of things that you think those kind of five minute drop-ins are helpful with?Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, I mean, something is simple as we had one of our locations was going from two services to three services. And so I had a conversation with the outpost pastor and we started talking through what those things are.Jeremy Peterson — And we’re like, yeah, these three times make sense. And we just kind of ran with it. And so in retrospect, we start going to print. So we get to the point where it’s like going on the website, it’s going to print. And he asked me, he’s like, what are these times? Like, why why did we land on these times?Jeremy Peterson — And so it was realizing that sometimes it’s those simple things, but if you can constantly be dropping in shoot a text, have a quick conversation, like the amount of things that we had to undo to fix something like that, was big. Another thing that he’s he’s shifted a lot now, but early on, it would not be uncommon for, say, one of our student pastors to go up to him and say like, hey, I know you did student ministry back in the day. I’m thinking about doing this. And he would be like, that sounds like a great idea. Just go for it. Not thinking through like all the details and ramifications of what that looked like.Jeremy Peterson — And so next thing I know, I’m in a meeting with one of our student pastors and they’re like, hey, Bo said that we should do this. And I’m like, hold the phone, like no we’re not we’re not doing that. Rich Birch — Yes. Jeremy Peterson — And so having those short conversations really trying to operate under the like the no surprise premise which is what him and I operate under. Our elders operate under that as well. So we’ve we’ve kind of shared the same thing with our elders is like, hey, if you have questions or concerns, pick up the phone, make a call, always choose to believe the best instead of assuming the worst.Rich Birch — Yeah, that’s good. You know, speaking with weight, you know, that’s always a shrewd move by staff to like, if I can just get the lead person to say, yeah, yeah go do that that. That’s like a blank check. Well, Bo said, you know, I can imagine that, thatJeremy Peterson — He signed off on it. It’s fine.Rich Birch — It’s fine. It’s totally fine. We’re buying the corporate jet. It’s fine. Let’s go back to the best friends versus coworkers thing.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah.Rich Birch — I see that this is an interesting relationship. And I’ve had I’ve had the privilege of working for three incredible lead pastors who I have really good positive relationships with. And, you know, we got a lot of stuff done, moved a lot stuff for the kingdom. And we’re friendly, like we’re we were close, but we weren’t like dudes. We were not like, you know, going to whatever dudes do like, you know.Rich Birch — And, so I sometimes had tension around in my own brain around like, should I be more friendly with these people? I don’t know. Help us understand, pull that apart. How, what do you think is healthy? What, what, what’s the kind of a minimum viable relationship? You know, how do we think through our you know, that, that side of this, this relationship?Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, that’s that’s a really, that’s I think it’s probably different for every senior executive pastor relationship, but I feel like there’s some who think that they need to be best friends. Rich Birch — Right.Jeremy Peterson — So like every vacation we do, like our families need to do this together. Every hobby, like we need to be a part of that together. What I’m also realizing is that there there’s probably some common interests that you share. Rich Birch — Right.Jeremy Peterson — And they may not be the same. So like your lead pastor may like to golf. You may not like to golf. I may really like to fish. He does not really care to fish. Rich Birch — Right.Jeremy Peterson — But but there are common interests that we’ve realized over time. So a lot of that could be sports. So like we follow one of the same college football teams. We both enjoy working out. And so being able to share some of the best practices in those areas, I think it is finding like, where’s their common ground? Rich Birch — That’s good.Jeremy Peterson — And how can we have a conversation? At the same time, I don’t know how healthy it is for you to be best friends. And because there are times where that could actually keep you from being fully truthful with them in in worries that you may like you may impact your relationship in some capacity. I think that’s a dangerous place to be.Rich Birch — That’s good. How do you think, so we’re really talking here about trust and how we’re building trust. How are we trustworthy people with our lead pastor and are seen by being trustworthy with our lead pastor and then vice versa? How do we, you know, continue to try to, you know, choose trust with them and engage in a way?Rich Birch — How do you think this idea of building trust ends up rippling into other relationships as, as, ah as we lead as an executive pastor? I often think, you know, we, we, we end up in, we’re in this really interesting kind of intersection of vision and execution. And so, you know, oftentimes I think lead pastors, when they’re doing their job, right, they are like a large portion of what they’re doing is thinking about vision and about the future. And then our job is to figure out, okay, how does that actually, how do we make that work?Rich Birch — And so we got to work with all these other relationships. What’s the connection here around trust and relationships with our staff, with our staff teams, maybe younger staff, what’s that look like?Jeremy Peterson — And I think it goes back to being truthful. If I overcommit and under deliver, then I can only do that a couple of times before like trust will start to erode. And I’ve seen it times over the years where like somebody way overcommits on this and they’re like, no problem, we can do this. And you know we’re going to have 10,000 people show up to it, but it’s going to be amazing. And then you you hype it up in such a way that then then the event or the function, whatever it is, happens. And then all of a sudden you like, you feel like you way under delivered. You can only that I think ah a few times before it starts to become like, man, I’m not sure. Like I know, I know Jeremy said he was going to do this, but like he keeps dropping the ball. He keeps committing at super high level and he’s not executing at that level. I think that that starts impacting things. um Jeremy Peterson — There’s a, there’s a great book out there um that Stephen Covey wrote. He’s probably most, probably most well known for The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, I think is the name of the book.Rich Birch — Yep.Jeremy Peterson — He wrote another book that’s not as well known, but the book is called Speed of Trust. Rich Birch — Yeah. Jeremy Peterson — And it’s a great reminder that like the more you work on being synced up together, the more trust begins to grow, the faster you can actually move and operate as an organization and as an entity, the more that that is built. And so so if you haven’t had a chance to read it, fascinating read. It was really helpful for me to understand that like, the more truthful I am, the more consistent I am, the more clarity I’m providing and actually executing at that level, then the more trust begins to build. And therefore allows us to actually move at a pretty rapid pace, the more that that foundation is built. Jeremy Peterson — And I think it impacts the staff as a whole. it’s It’s a little bit like the mom-dad relationship. Like if there’s tension or if they’ve like if there’s been a fight or an argument, like as as kids, like you can tell something’s off.Rich Birch — Right. Yes.Jeremy Peterson — What did dad say? Or you know why is mom upset with dad? um I think ah the staff can sense that. Like If something is off between the two of you, they can start to begin to wonder, doubt. They can even begin to you know, put in like suspicious thoughts of like, man, something must be off here. Something’s out of sync. And so I think that that’s a big part of it is just, is taking time, working on the relationship, and then just watching it kind of like grow and blossom over time. But also I would encourage, like if you’re a new executive pastor to the role, just realize that like you can’t buy time.Rich Birch — It just takes time.Jeremy Peterson — I’m an investment over years, the things that you’ve learned. You know, we talk often here about like failing fast and cheap because we feel like failure is actually needed to be able to accomplish what God’s calling us to do. But I think if you’re not truthful and transparent as that’s happening, then then it’s not long before it it starts catching up to you.Rich Birch — That’s good. That reminds me one of the the, you know, axioms I’ve talked about with our teams is, you know, there’s, there’s no bad information. There’s just because I think sometimes like something might go wrong, you might have an event, you might be a team member, you, you know, you busted something, it could be as simple as, you know, youth event, we had literally had this happen, we opened a brand new building. And the very first youth event, there was a car, we had a kid go through the wall, and it busted a like it, you know, but busted a wall, like his brand new building, $15 million dollar build. Wow. This is amazing. You know, put a hole in the wall. Rich Birch — And you know, there’s no bad information. What makes that hole in the wall worse is if we never hear about it, and it gets covered up and someone puts a, you know, well, we’ll just move this, you know, whatever, some furniture.Jeremy Peterson — Just put a big poster up there, it’ll be fine.Rich Birch — Yeah. Put a poster in front of it or whatever. That just gets worse over time. Like, sure. There may be information we don’t like, but there’s no bad information. Like we’ve got to be organizations that spread even bad news and you know how we react. That was one of the times where I felt like in that case that instance I said was, I feel like, oh like the Lord was with me because actually I responded super well. I said to the guy, I’m like, this is why we bought this building. I’m so glad you had all these students here. You know, let’s get it fixed and and move forward. I did not like paying that bill, but you know, it is, it is what it is, so. But we can’t, if we create organizations that are trying to hide the truth, that are trying to hide information that will erode trust long-term and you move way slower to the speed of trust, you know, information there.Rich Birch — So pivoting in a in a slightly different direction, but related kind of an adjacent neighborhood of conversation. What are you learning about developing, particularly trust with, or building up team members, younger team members, newer team members at, at One Church? How, what does that look like for you guys? How, how are you, how how does that fit into this whole idea of, you know, building trust with people?Jeremy Peterson — That’s a great question, Rich, because actually the and we can talk about it if we have time. But the Executive Pastor Summit this year specifically is really about leading up and empowering younger leaders. Rich Birch — I love it. Jeremy Peterson —But can I just do a quick jump backwards before?Rich Birch — Yes.Jeremy Peterson — Just just maybe this is a bonus thing. Regardless of whether you’ve worked with your lead senior pastor um for the last couple of months or the last 10 years, something that has really changed my heart and my perspective, and I think has really helped grow the relationship, is um it’s just daily be in prayer for him or her. I know that sounds very simple. Until about three years ago I would pray for Bo on a regular basis but it was just kind of like when I thought of it, or on the way to work, or Sunday morning…Rich Birch — Right. It’s a big thing coming up.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, here’s a big thing coming up. But but man the the more we really challenge all of our staff to do this, but I know for myself praying for him, praying for each of his kids by name, know where they’re at in their life, relationships that they’re in, praying for his spouse, and I know he’s doing the same thing. Like I think that that God really takes that, honors that, and he helps kind of build trust through that. And so just an encouragement to some of you if you’re like wrestling with this, if you’re doubting, if you feel like the enemy is getting a foothold is, my encouragement is like, man, just take time every single day to pray for your senior lead pastor. And then I think that’ll make a huge difference. So just want to put that in. So I didn’t forget about, about that on the, on the back end.Rich Birch — No, that’s so good. That’s a great practical tactic for us around, particularly, you know, you think about the the lead pastor, there was a high percentage of these in this kind of one out of five that were really saying, so it’s 17.89 is the number of people, of executive pastors that said that they feel neutral about their relationship with their lead pastor. And man, we don’t want to feel neutral about this relationship. Like this can’t be like, it’s fine. Like that’s not good. That would be a great takeaway is say, Hey, what if I was going to spend time every day praying for my lead pastor, for what’s going on in their world, for their, you know, for their spouse, for their kids, all of that. I think that’s a great, great takeaway. Rich Birch — That’s a callback to a previous episode as well. I love, and I know I’ve joked with you about this before when we had you and Bo on talking about multi-site stuff last year, and you know, I asked this question around how do you know the campus versus teams and like the classic multi-site tension. And, um and I’ve retold this story way too many times. And, you know, I’m like, what do you guys do to fix this problem? And then Bo in his wise sort of way rolls out the like, well, you know, I pray every day for every staff member and their, and their family. And I found that that has really helped. And I was like, literally, I was like, Okay. So I’ve been doing this for 20 years, asking that question. Never, never once considered that. So I felt humbled.Rich Birch — But that’s a great, a great, you know, it’s not just like, and know that’s what I love about you guys. It’s not like you’re not saying that from like, oh, just pray about it. It’s like, no, this, let’s actually add this as a part of our lives and discipline and see what the Lord will do. You know, I think it’s amazing. It’s fantastic.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, not to recap the whole thing, but man, like our staff as a whole has been doing that the last four and a half months, Rich. And even the interaction, some of the past frustrations, it’s crazy how much that’s minimized.Rich Birch — Right.Jeremy Peterson — And just simply praying for, I mean, we spend all this money to go to conferences and all this stuff. And it’s like, hey, how about here’s a printed off name of everybody on staff, their spouse and their kids. Rich Birch — Yes.Jeremy Peterson — Hey, just take 20 minutes a day and pray for them. Rich Birch — Yep. Jeremy Peterson —It’s like, oh yeah, I can I guess Ii can do that as it doesn’t cost much other than some time so. But anyway…Rich Birch — Well, and you start to see each other as humans, right? At the end of the day. Jeremy Peterson — Oh yeah. Rich Birch —And, you know, you start to be like, hey, this person’s like, they’re not just a task that needs to be done or, you know, they’re not just whatever the next problem is that’s going to come up. So, um yeah, that’s a great practical takeaway. Rich Birch —Well, let’s pivot on that. I want to make sure because I know that you can help leaders on this as well. As we think about younger leaders, what, you know, just ah ask a super wide open, what should we be thinking about? What are you thinking about? What are you wrestling with? Help us wrestle through that. you know, let’s talk about that.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, something that’s really been on my heart the last probably year and a half is how do we empower younger leaders? And so I’m not sure who sits around like your, know, your decision making team. But God really put in our hearts several years back to start a residency program and really pour into some of these younger leaders. I know people took a risk on people like you and I, at some point when we were in our twenties and didn’t really know what we’re doing. And we made some dumb things. Like, I think I made multiple holes and multiple walls, which the senior pastor was like very forgiving at the time about it. Jeremy Peterson — But, but I just love that we get an opportunity to like really pour into invest and actually empower and, um, and and put some trust even behind some of these residents that they’re they’re going from like, okay, I’ve learned these things in school. I have this head knowledge of things, but from a practical standpoint, what does that really look like? Jeremy Peterson — And so so knowing that we were going to this conversation, I just sat down with one of our first year residents just to kind of hear what their experience has been so far, because I want to hear like the positives, the negatives and kind of what their insight was. But um but a few things that he shared shared with me was like, I love that you guys allow us to fail.Rich Birch — That’s so good.Jeremy Peterson — He’s like, I’ve been at other jobs before where it’s like, if something happens to me, if I miss it, then it could be like, hey, you’re going get written up for this. And for us for us, it’s really trying to create that culture of like, you are allowed to fail. You’re allowed to try things. We talk about failing fast and cheap. We hope it doesn’t cost us a lot. But but ultimately, like that’s a safe place in the residency to but to be able to be.Jeremy Peterson — Another thing he said was, um like I’ve been challenged to say yes to opportunities. And I was like, well, yeah, tell me a little bit more about that. And he’s like, no, usually kind of like you pick and choose. Well, yeah, I want to say yes to this one, but I don’t want to say yes to this. And he’s like, I’m in my early 20s. Why would I not say yes to all these different opportunities? And he’s like, I really want to be scrappy.Jeremy Peterson — And I’m like, well, tell me more tell me more about that. He’s like, no, I really want to be like more of a utility, like multi-tool staffer. And in my mind, I’m like, OK, I appreciate the the hustle and this younger resident because he’s already talking about like, OK, how do we create a staffing position for him? Rich Birch — Right.Jeremy Peterson — But I also think realizing that, you know, he said, if I get an opportunity to preach, I’m going to take the opportunity to preach. If I get the opportunity to host, I to take the opportunity to host. If I don’t have anything that weekend, that I’m going to see if I can serve with our production team and kind of learn the behind the scenes side of things so that I can help with that. Anywhere that’s needed. Jeremy Peterson — And so I love this idea that they’re willing to say yes, they’re willing to take some risks, knowing that the team believes in them. And so for us, and I think for me specifically, it’s been okay, who do I see being a part of our leadership decision making team in the years ahead?Jeremy Peterson — And know for, you know, if the average age in the room is like, say, in their mid 40s, like to bring in a early mid 20 year old is it like, wait a second, like, what is this, you know, what is this kid going to say to us? um I think they provide some incredibly fresh perspective…Rich Birch — 100 percent.Jeremy Peterson — …on what we’re actually doing well, things that we should do differently, and just ways that we can continue to like really empower them, challenge them, put them in positions that may make them feel uncomfortable. Like we have some that have are like almost deathly afraid of having you know being on stage and talk talking to somebody. But give them an opportunity to to get in there, host, I mean, hosting’s two, three minutes, but get an opportunity to get on stage, just kind of like, you know, put a little fire under them, and and see how they do. And and just watch them grow. And I’m always shocked, and I shouldn’t be shocked because because we’ve been doing the residency for a while, but how many of them not only step up into the challenge, but then actually go beyond our expectations.Rich Birch — Right. That’s so good. I think this is a critical important critically important for us to lean in on. You know In the last year I’ve been struck, I was with a lot of different churches, and but there were two in particular that stood out to me. These are like prevailing churches, folks that are listening in. If you were listening, they’re like name brand churches. You know these people.Rich Birch — And the thing that stood out to me was I was having in both of them, I just happened to be having a kind of a meeting with leadership meeting with the folks that were actually operational leaders of a whole bunch of different departments. It was like a kind of a cross section of team leaders. And I was pleasantly surprised with how young that crowd was. Like I looked around the room and I was like, man, these people are all in their late twenties, early thirties. And they’re running departments that are larger than, you know the majority of churches in the country.Rich Birch — You know they’ve got 15 staff reporting to them. They’re managing multi-million dollars of budgets. And these are prevailing churches. Now, I don’t think that that is a coincidence. I think both of those churches have unlocked something and have realized, wait a second, we have to pass this thing on to the next generation.Rich Birch — So when you think about the residency, kind of talk to us so about but about the residency program. What does that look like? And how did you get into that? How did that kind of get that ball get rolling? Help us understand. Maybe there’s someone who’s listening in today is thinking, hmm, maybe that’s something, a step we should take in this coming year.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, so it was actually a retired baseball player who’s actually going to be at XPS this year. I’m going to do an interview with him. Because now that he’s retired, he’s still coaching, but the like now he’s kind of coaching up the AA and AAA players as they’re coming in and they’re moving up to the major leagues. But he really challenged us because we told him the staffing was one of the biggest challenges, especially in in the New England area. There’s not a lot of people that feel called to be up here this close to Canada, which I know you’re in Canada. But they’re they’re like, maybe if we can be further south, like a little more comfortable.Jeremy Peterson — But for us, we realized that staffing was a challenge. And for us, he really challenged us to to start a residency. And the residency, it’s either a one or two year residency. And you come on you come in you have two areas of focus. And so it could be, say, worship and production. And you’ll spend six months with each of those areas, really kind of hands-on. And so if you’re showing up here, you’re actually like, you will be on stage leading worship. You will be helping run production, whether it’s for our online service or at one of our outposts. But we really try to give as many hands-on opportunities as possible. Jeremy Peterson — As somebody who went to seminary, I think I had one class called practical ministry. And it was like, here’s one semester on, you know, how to do weddings, how to do funerals, but not a whole lot of hands-on experience unless I was volunteering at a church. And so for us, it’s really trying to take, hey, here’s some things that I’ve learned, like from a practical standpoint, but like actually let’s just actually see them like, live happening in real time and get an opportunity to be able to see like, Hey, is it something that God’s even really calling me to? And how can I use the gifts that he’s given me to further the kingdom?Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so good. Love that. Well, we’ve kind of referenced XPS. So XPSummit.org. This is a conference that you are the grand content poobah for. Talk to us about XPS this year. This is to me is a must-attend event. Talk to us about it. and And where is it? All those kind of details this year.Jeremy Peterson — Yeah, sure. It’s it’s May 4th through 6th in Dallas-Fort Worth. And typically we’ll have 150, 175 executive pastors from different size of churches around the country. And and I appreciate the comment, Rich, but really my goal is to get the people that are there with the content, people like you, and other leaders who really want to come and pour into other executive pastors. And so, yeah, so if you, whether you live in the area or you just want to a day to hang out with some incredible leaders, Rich is going to be there, I’ll be there. And like you said, you can go to xpsummit.org and you can see some of the keynote speakers as well as some of the breakout leaders.Rich Birch — Yeah, it’s so good. Well, Jeremy, just as we wrap up today’s episode, bit of a curveball question here. As you think about 2026 at One Church, what’s a question or two that’s on your mind that you’re like, hmm, here’s some stuff that we’re thinking about. it doesn’t have to do with anything we’re talking about today. It could be just anything that you’re thinking about this year. You’re wrestling through thinking, hmm, I wonder what that’s going to look like in this this coming year.Jeremy Peterson — Man, I was not expecting that question. One thing I’ve been praying about is I think we’re going to start seeing a shift in different parts of the country um where we may have people that are more of like a like a tentmaker role in ministry where um I think there’s an incredible opportunity to do things in like the business sector, but at the same time still work in the church using some of the gifts that God’s empowered you with. And so I can see a shift happening where we have more of the tent making. It’s crazy to me that it’s been like less than a hundred years since the church has actually had like paid full-time staff… Rich Birch — Right. Jeremy Peterson — …and not only paid full-time staff, but multiple staff. And so I think I think we could see a shift there. I think a lot of its just to be trying to be, in the words of one of our residents, how to be a little more scrappy, and really looking for staff that is not just focused on one specific area, but somebody who is a utility player that’s like, hey, I can help out in these four or five different areas instead of just being like, I have this one skill set that I can bring. I think those are two things that are going to make a huge impact in the church in 2026.Rich Birch — That’s great. Thanks so much, Jeremy. I appreciate you being on today. If people want to track with One Church, where do we want to send them online to track with you guys?Jeremy Peterson — Just go to church.one. Little bit different of a website, but yeah, they can go there and you can find my email address if you want to email me or if we can serve you any way, I know um for for our elders, for Bo, our senior pastor, we love serving the local church as a whole. And so if you’re in the area or if you want to come and hang out with us for a few days, shoot me an email and we’d love to host you guys.Rich Birch — Great. Thanks so much. Thanks for being here today, sir.

Ernesto Quintanilla is the co-host (with his wife Nancy) and driving force behind Santos en Liderazgo, the official Spanish-language expansion of the Leading Saints podcast. A dedicated leader and communicator, Ernesto is passionate about helping Spanish-speaking Latter-day Saints enhance their leadership skills and better serve their communities. By interviewing experienced leaders and sharing research-backed principles, Ernesto bridges the gap between traditional leadership concepts and the unique cultural nuances of Latino congregations. His work focuses on empowering local leaders—from Bishops and Relief Society presidents to youth advisors—with the tools and inspiration needed to lead with Christlike love and administrative excellence. Links Santos en Liderazgo on YouTube Santos en Liderazgo in Zion Lab Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Highlights Coming soon The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

This recording of a recent Zion Lab livestream offers great ideas to support worship through music in your ward and stake. Links Landon’s Organ Training Course Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Highlights Coming soon The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

What happens when a leader's greatest lesson comes from surviving a broken heart—literally? In this episode of the Build A Vibrant Culture Podcast, Nicole Greer sits down with Hanna Bauer, founder and CEO of Heartnomics, to explore a powerful, human-centered approach to leadership rooted in hope, empowerment, accountability, results, and trust.Hanna shares her extraordinary personal story—surviving childhood heart disease and undergoing a pioneering heart ablation procedure that changed the course of her life. That experience became the blueprint for her leadership philosophy: restore rhythm, reclaim human potential, and lead with both heart and precision.Together, Nicole and Hanna dive into Hanna's book, Hustle With Heart: 52 Mini Shifts to Maximize Your Impact, and explain why sustainable leadership transformation doesn't happen through massive overhauls—but through small, intentional daily shifts.If you're a leader who wants stronger culture, clearer accountability, and results that actually last—this conversation will energize and equip you.Vibrant Highlights:00:02:20 – 05:05 - Hanna shares how surviving childhood heart disease—and an experimental procedure—taught her the power of clear pathways, innovation, and learning through failure05:58 – 07:45 - Why great leadership requires both human-centered love and systematic excellence—and how leaders balance people, process, and performance.09:20 – 12:30 - Hope as a catalyst for change, momentum, and problem-solving—especially when solutions aren't obvious.13:20 – 15:05 - Why leaders unintentionally disempower teams—and how real empowerment fuels growth, learning, and confidence.25:45 – 30:17 - How trust starts with yourself, fuels delegation and innovation, and sustains long-term impact—even when results aren't immediately visible.Connect with Hanna!Hanna's website: www.heartnomics.comHanna's book: Hustle with Heart https://a.co/d/cTLuK62LI: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bauerhannaFB: https://facebook.com/hannad.bauerIG: https://www.instagram.com/hannabauer777/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@heartnomicsFREE Assessment: https://heartnomics.com/assessments/#:~:text=challenges%20and%20goals.-,Assessment,-for%0AOrganizationsAlso mentioned in this episode: The Speed of Trust by Stephen M.R. Covey: https://a.co/d/64nCUzqThe Path by Laurie Beth Jones: https://a.co/d/2QEPT3u (for accompanying document, email nicole@vibrantculture.com)Listen at vibrantculture.com/podcast or wherever you get your podcasts!Book Nicole to help your organization ignite clarity, accountability, and energy through her SHINE™ Coaching Methodology.Visit vibrantculture.comEmail: nicole@vibrantculture.comWatch Nicole's TEDx Talk: https://youtu.be/SMbxA90bfXE

Rob Smith, LMAC, LASUDC, is a therapist with over 10 years of personal and professional experience. He specializes in helping individuals tap into their inner strengths, generate momentum for change, and live in alignment with their core values. Rob loves spending time with his wife and supporting their kids in their passions and activities. Links Accepted Therapy Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Rob discusses the complexities of providing support to individuals facing mental health challenges and the burdens that can arise for leaders in church settings. The conversation emphasizes the importance of empathy, boundaries, and community in effective leadership. 00:02:10 – Importance of Mental Health in Leadership 00:03:30 – Balancing Help and Personal Well-being 00:05:00 – Interview Introduction with Rob Smith 00:05:40 – Rob’s Background and Specialization 00:06:30 – Personal Struggles and the Need for Help 00:08:00 – The Journey of Seeking Help 00:10:00 – Community Support in Recovery 00:12:00 – The Importance of Healthy Boundaries 00:14:00 – Empathy in Leadership 00:16:00 – Mourning with Those Who Mourn 00:20:00 – Understanding the Weight of Pain 00:22:00 – The Role of Leaders in Carrying Burdens 00:23:30 – The Challenge of Relating to Others’ Struggles 00:25:00 – Setting Healthy Boundaries as a Leader 00:28:00 – The Complexity of Supporting Others 00:30:00 – The Need for Forgiveness and Compassion 00:32:00 – The Role of Opposition in Growth 00:34:00 – The Importance of Community Resources 00:36:00 – Balancing Individual Needs with Community Support 00:38:00 – The Role of Gratitude in Helping Others 00:40:00 – Delegating Support Within the Church Community 00:42:00 – Reflecting on Systemic Issues in Support Key Insights Empathy vs. Problem-Solving: Leaders often feel compelled to solve problems for those they support, but true empathy involves sitting with individuals in their pain rather than trying to immediately alleviate it. The Weight of Pain: Understanding that pain has a physical and emotional weight can help leaders connect with those they serve. Leaders should be willing to share in that weight without trying to fix it. Boundaries are Essential: Leaders must establish healthy boundaries to protect their own mental health. This includes recognizing when to step back from situations that may overwhelm them. Community Support: A strong community can enhance recovery and support. Leaders should encourage individuals to seek help from a broader network rather than relying solely on them. Forgiveness and Compassion: Leaders need to practice forgiveness towards those who may not show gratitude or who take advantage of their help. This allows leaders to continue serving without resentment. Opposition in All Things: Recognizing that challenges are a part of life can help leaders understand that they cannot solve every problem. This perspective fosters resilience and growth. Leadership Applications Creating Safe Spaces: Leaders can foster environments where individuals feel safe to express their struggles without fear of judgment. This can be achieved by openly discussing difficult emotions and experiences. Utilizing Resources: Leaders should leverage the strengths of their community by connecting individuals with appropriate resources, such as support groups or other members who have faced similar challenges. Regular Check-Ins: Leaders should regularly assess their own well-being and that of their fellow leaders. This can help prevent burnout and ensure that they are equipped to support others effectively. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Where is Leading Saints going in 2026? Listen in to find out! Links Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Become a Zion Builder Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights In this episode, Kurt Francom discusses the evolution of Leading Saints and the introduction of Zion Lab, an online community aimed at fostering leadership and cultural development among Latter-day Saints. 00:03:04 – Introducing Adam Treadwell Introduction of Adam Treadwell and his connection to Leading Saints. 00:04:03 – North Star Conference Promotion of the North Star Conference and its relevance to church leaders. 00:06:01 – Adam’s Journey with Leading Saints Adam shares his experience and history with Leading Saints. 00:07:01 – Key Accomplishments of 2025 Summary of key achievements and insights from Leading Saints in 2025. 00:10:57 – Zion Lab Progress Discussion on the development and functionality of Zion Lab as a community platform. 00:11:57 – In-Person Leadership Gatherings Exploration of the impact of in-person leadership workshops and conferences. 00:12:28 – Understanding Zion Lab Description of Zion Lab as a social media platform for church leaders. 00:16:06 – Personal Insights from 2025 Kurt shares personal reflections and insights gained throughout the year. 00:19:29 – Cultural Development in Leadership Discussion on the importance of culture development in church leadership. 00:22:03 – Future of Leading Saints in 2026 Exploration of content distribution and future plans for Leading Saints. 00:25:23 – Expanding Language Resources Discussion on the need for Spanish and other language podcasts. 00:27:53 – Importance of Zion Lab Jared’s question about the significance of Zion Lab in the evolution of Leading Saints. 00:30:32 – Moderation in Zion Lab Addressing concerns about moderating discussions and ensuring a safe community. 00:34:59 – Inclusivity in Discussions Discussion on ensuring diverse voices are heard in Zion Lab. 00:35:38 – Eliminating Borders with Zion Lab How Zion Lab can connect church leaders beyond geographical boundaries. 00:39:39 – Content Creation Process Kurt explains his approach to finding and creating content for Leading Saints. 00:44:02 – Emerging Themes and Trends Discussion on potential themes and trends for future content. 00:48:05 – Navigating Difficult Topics Kurt shares his thoughts on addressing challenging subjects in church leadership. Key Insights Shift to Community Focus: Leading Saints is transitioning from being solely a podcast to a community-driven platform through Zion Lab, where leaders can share ideas and best practices. Grassroots Leadership: Significant cultural shifts within the church will come from lay members rather than institutional changes, highlighting the role of individual initiative in building Zion. Content Creation and Curation: The podcast will continue, but the emphasis will be on community-generated content, allowing for a broader range of voices and experiences to be shared. Diversity of Perspectives: Zion Lab aims to create a safe space for discussions on various topics, including controversial issues, while ensuring that all voices are heard and respected. Language Expansion: There are plans to expand content into other languages, recognizing the diverse experiences of Latter-day Saints worldwide. Leadership Applications Encouraging Participation: Leaders are encouraged to actively participate in Zion Lab, sharing their experiences and insights, which can help others in similar situations. Fostering Community: By connecting with others in their local areas and beyond, leaders can find support and inspiration, reinforcing the idea that they are not alone in their challenges. Embracing Change: Leaders should be open to new ideas and approaches, understanding that effective leadership often requires adapting to the unique needs of their communities rather than relying solely on institutional directives. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

In today's. episode I chat with Rickey Covey and Sawyer Seth about how they came up in the industry and how they like being younger guys in the industry with real responsibilities. We get into what it takes to run crews and what these guys like to snack on while they're work, you know, the really important stuff.

Lani Hilton is a dedicated enthusiast of the Easter Season. She has lived a Christ-centered Easter season with her family for 20 years and has been teaching about it in settings like BYU Education Week and firesides since 2015. She published a book called Celebrate Sunday and has written articles for the Liahona and LDS living. Along with her husband, John, she is the proud parent of six children, four currently at Brigham Young University. Lani finds great joy in the simplicity and beauty of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links lanihilton.com/easter A Christ-Centered Easter: Day-By-Day Activities to Celebrate Easter Week Easter-themed resources from Deseret Book Connecting Others to Jesus Through the Cross at Calvary | An Interview with John Hilton III Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Lani Hilton talks about the importance of making Easter a season rather than just a single day of celebration. Lani shares her journey of creating meaningful Easter traditions and how she has implemented these ideas at both home and community levels, particularly focusing on Palm Sunday. 00:04:04 – Lonnie’s Journey to Celebrating Easter 00:05:24 – Simplifying Traditions as a Busy Mom 00:06:08 – Church’s Focus on Easter as a Season 00:06:40 – Elder Stevenson’s Call for a Christ-Centered Easter 00:09:51 – Expanding the Easter Celebration Timeline 00:10:57 – Encouragement to Start Early with Planning 00:12:44 – Involving Youth in Easter Activities 00:13:57 – Lonnie’s Experience with Stake Activities 00:15:41 – The Importance of Creating Meaningful Experiences 00:17:16 – Organizing a Palm Sunday Celebration 00:20:24 – Keeping the Celebration Engaging and Short 00:22:07 – Community Involvement and Outreach 00:25:06 – The Joy of Praising the Savior 00:27:16 – The Impact of a Large Gathering 00:29:03 – Advertising the Palm Sunday Event 00:31:01 – Encouraging Family Participation 00:32:24 – Resources for Planning Easter Activities 00:35:35 – Reflection on the Success of the Event 00:39:15 – Looking Ahead to Future Celebrations Key Insights Easter as a Season: Lani emphasizes the need to extend the celebration of Easter beyond just Easter Sunday, suggesting that it can encompass a period of reflection and worship leading up to and following the holiday. Inspiration from Church Leaders: Elder Stevenson's talks have encouraged members to recognize Palm Sunday and the Easter season more thoughtfully, prompting a shift in how Latter-day Saints approach these celebrations. Community Involvement: Lani highlights the importance of involving the entire community in Easter celebrations, suggesting that events should be inclusive and accessible to all, not just church members. Simple Traditions: She advocates for simple, Christ-centered traditions that can be easily integrated into family life, making it possible for busy families to participate without feeling overwhelmed. Worshipful Experiences: The focus should be on creating worshipful experiences that allow participants to praise and adore Jesus Christ, fostering a deeper connection to the Savior during this holy time. Leadership Applications Planning Ahead: Leaders should begin discussions about Easter celebrations in January to allow ample time for planning and community involvement, ensuring that activities are well-organized and meaningful. Encouraging Participation: Leaders can facilitate events that invite participation from all ages, such as a Palm Sunday celebration, which can help foster a sense of community and shared worship. Flexibility in Activities: Leaders are encouraged to adapt ideas and resources to fit their local context, recognizing that not every ward or stake will have the same capabilities or traditions, but all can create impactful experiences centered on Christ. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

In this episode of The Daily Mastermind, host George Wright III welcomes esteemed guest Stephen M.R. Covey, a global authority on leadership, trust, and organizational performance. Covey discusses his legacy of timeless principles in leadership and trust, stemming from the influential teachings of his father, Dr. Stephen R. Covey. The conversation delves into the importance of trust as both a social virtue and economic driver, emphasizing the concept of 'Smart Trust' as a strategic and calculated way to build trust in teams and organizations. Covey outlines his 'Five Waves of Trust' model, which starts with self-trust and ripples out to team, organization, marketplace, and societal trust. He shares practical daily actions such as identifying high-leverage behaviors, declaring intentions, and being more trusting to help individuals build self-trust and improve their leadership. The episode is packed with actionable insights aimed at helping listeners lead their lives more effectively by prioritizing trust and integrity.00:49 Stephen Covey's Background and Legacy02:07 Foundational Principles of Leadership07:08 Building Trust in Organizations10:56 The Economics of Trust18:46 The Ripple Effect of Trust25:49 Building Self-Trust26:48 The Power of Small Commitments30:45 Common Behaviors That Break Trust36:22 Extending Smart Trust41:01 Daily Actions to Build TrustYou have GREATNESS inside you. I BELIEVE in You. Let's Make Today the Day You Unleash Your Potential!George Wright IIICEO, The Daily Mastermind | Evolution X_________________________________________________________P.S. Whenever you're ready, here are ways I can help you…Get to know me:1. Subscribe to The Daily Mastermind Podcast- daily inspiration, motivation, education2. Follow me on social media Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin | TikTok | Youtube3. Grow Your Authority and Personal Brand with a FREE Interview in a Top Global Magazine HERE.

Hi Mamas, Download my free guide: ✨ ChatGPT Prompts Made Simple for Moms ✨ As you step into a new week, this Monday Mindset is a reminder you may not know you need—but probably feel deep in your bones. Being busy doesn't mean you're being intentional. And a full schedule doesn't always mean a fulfilled life. In today's episode, we're talking about why working moms don't struggle with knowing what matters—we struggle with protecting it. ✨ This Week's Quote “The key is not to prioritize what's on your schedule, but to schedule your priorities.” — Stephen Covey This quote comes from Covey's classic book, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People… a must-read when it comes to time management, values, and intentional living. So much of what we talk about here on the podcast traces right back to the principles he teaches.

Season 14, Episode 382 reviews chapters 4–7 of Think and Grow Rich for Sales, showing how autosuggestion, specialized knowledge, imagination, and organized planning transform inner belief into consistent sales results. This episode explains practical steps to program confidence, build authority, paint future outcomes for buyers, and design repeatable sales systems that create certainty and close deals more naturally. Today EP 382 PART 2 of our Think and Grow Rich for Sales Series, we will cover: ✔ Chapter 4: Autosuggestion: How Your Inner Script Becomes Your Outer Results  Sales Application (Practical Use) Pre-call priming: Speak your outcome out loud before every call (“I bring clarity and certainty to this conversation.”) Language audit: Eliminate soft phrases (“I think,” “hopefully,” “maybe”) from your sales vocabulary. Repetition builds belief: Read your sales goals twice daily as if already achieved. Emotion matters: Read goals with feeling—belief is emotional, not intellectual. Interrupt negative mindsets: Replace “They won't buy” with “I help people make confident decisions.” Consistency over intensity: Daily repetition beats occasional motivation. Key Insight: Belief is built deliberately, not accidentally. ✔ Chapter 5: Specialized Knowledge: From Information to Authority  5 Sales Application Tips Organize your expertise into simple frameworks buyers can easily follow. Know their world better than they do—pain points, language, pressures, timing. Stop overloading: Say less, but say it with authority. Borrow brilliance: Use mentors, subject experts, and masterminds to extend your knowledge. Teach while you sell: Authority grows when you help buyers understand, not when you impress them. Key Insight: You are not selling information. You are selling guidance. ✔ Chapter 6: Imagination: Where Sales Innovation Is Born 7 Sales Application Tips Paint the “after” picture: Describe life, work, or outcomes post-solution. Use sensory language: Help them see, feel, and experience the result. Rehearse success aloud: Walk the buyer through implementation as if it's already happening. Normalize the decision: Familiarity reduces fear and resistance. Tell transformation stories: Stories activate imagination faster than facts. Slow the moment down: Imagination needs space—don't rush the close. Anchor certainty visually: “Imagine six months from now…” becomes a mental commitment. Key Insight: People don't buy solutions. They buy who they become after the solution. ✔ Chapter 7: Organized Planning: Putting Desire Into Action 6 Sales Application Tips Create a repeatable sales process you trust and follow consistently. Plan the work—then work the plan, even when results lag. Refine the plan, not the goal when setbacks occur. Prepare for objections before they arise—confidence comes from readiness. Track behaviors, not just outcomes (calls, follow-ups, conversations). Use structure to eliminate emotion-based decisions during the sales cycle. Key Insight: A plan creates certainty. Certainty creates momentum. Welcome back to our final series of SEASON 14 of The Neuroscience Meets Social and Emotional Learning Podcast, where we connect the science-based evidence behind social and emotional learning and emotional intelligence training for improved well-being, achievement, productivity and results—using what I saw as the missing link (since we weren't taught this when we were growing up in school), the application of practical neuroscience. I'm Andrea Samadi, and seven years ago, launched this podcast with a question I had never truly asked myself before: (and that is) If productivity and results matter to us—and they do now more than ever—how exactly are we using our brain to make them happen? Most of us were never taught how to apply neuroscience to improve productivity, results, or well-being. About a decade ago, I became fascinated by the mind-brain-results connection—and how science can be applied to our everyday lives. That's why I've made it my mission to bring you the world's top experts—so together, we can explore the intersection of science and social-emotional learning. We'll break down complex ideas and turn them into practical strategies we can use every day for predictable, science-backed results. Connecting Back to Our 6-Part Think and Grow Rich Series (2022) For today's EP 382, we continue with PART 2 of our Review of Think and Grow Rich for Sales, connecting back to our 6-PART Series from 2022[i]. Back in 2022, we didn't just read Think and Grow Rich—we lived inside it as we launched our year. Over a 6-part series that began the beginning of January 2022, we walked through this book chapter by chapter, not as theory, but as a personal operating system for growth, performance, and results. At the time, the focus of our 6 PART Series was broad. We covered: Personal development Mindset mastery Vision, purpose, and belief We covered the BASICS of this book that my mentor, Bob Proctor studied for his entire lifetime (over 50 years) that can be applied to whatever it is that you want to create with our life. Today, we are going to look at this timeless piece of knowledge, through a new lens. What we're covering today—PART 2 of our Study of Think and Grow Rich for Sales—is not new material. It's the application of this series, towards a specific discipline. You could apply this book to any discipline, but this one, I have wanted to cover for a very long time. How the 6-Part Series Maps DIRECTLY to Sales Mastery Here's the reframe that matters: Every principle we covered in 2022 becomes a sales advantage when applied correctly. Each of the 10 chapters explains how to further improve our inner state, and then we walk through how to make this change occur in our outer world, connecting each principal for the salesperson. And just a reminder that you don't need to be in sales for these principles to work for us. Think and Grow Rich for Sales How Inner Mastery Becomes Sales Results Inspired by Think and Grow Rich Through a modern neuroscience + sales lens   Chapter IV: Autosuggestion The Inner Script Behind Every Sales Call Core Idea: Your subconscious mind is always selling—either for you or against you. Sales Application: Language patterns that leak doubt Why we program confidence before the call Why tone matters more than technique Listener Takeaway: The buyer responds to your energy, not your words. Chapter IV — Autosuggestion How Your Inner Script Becomes Your Outer Results Autosuggestion is the bridge between what you think and what you experience. I first learned this concept while working with Bob Proctor in the seminar industry, and it fundamentally changed the way I understand my own personal results—both in life and in sales. At its core, autosuggestion is about creating order in the mind, (first) so your inner script consistently produces your outer results. The visual model that explains this in one simple view is the stickperson diagram, originally developed by Dr. Thurman Fleet in 1934. You'll see this image in the show notes, labeled A, B, and C. Here is what this diagram means. The Three Parts of the Mind IMAGE IDEA: From Dr. Thurman Fleet 1937 with his idea of Concept Therapy. A — Conscious Mind (Thinking Mind) This is the part of your mind you use when you are actively thinking: reading studying learning solving problems consciously making decisions This is where logic lives. B — Non-Conscious Mind (Emotional Mind) This is the most powerful part of the mind—and the most misunderstood. The non-conscious mind: accepts whatever enters it does not judge truth from falsehood operates primarily through repetition and emotion This is why: who you surround yourself with matters what you listen to matters what you repeatedly tell yourself matters Your non-conscious mind becomes the program that runs your behavior. C — Body The body is the instrument of the mind. Your body inherits what your mind expresses: thoughts affect emotions emotions affect physiology physiology affects behavior and results This is why mindset impacts: health energy confidence performance And why our thoughts, feelings and actions ultimately determine our results. They create our conditions, our circumstances and our environment. Why Autosuggestion Matters (Real Life Example) Because I learned this before I had children, I became extremely intentional about what was playing in the background of our home. News, negativity, and fear-based messaging go straight into the non-conscious mind—especially when the mind is in a submissive state, such as: early childhood (when your mind is wide open) right before sleep also while eating when relaxed or emotionally open This state of mind doesn't just affect children. It affects adults too. What we repeatedly hear becomes how we feel—and eventually how we act. This is why autosuggestion is not wishful thinking. It is mental conditioning. Autosuggestion and Alignment (Praxis) When your thoughts, feelings and emotions are aligned, you enter a state called praxis—the point where belief and behavior match. How do we enter this state? By: writing your goals reading them aloud repeating them twice daily you gradually impress belief onto the non-conscious mind. Over time: belief strengthens faith develops behavior shifts automatically Eventually, you don't have to force confidence. It becomes natural. Beyond the Five Senses: The Higher Faculties Before moving into Chapter V — Specialized Knowledge, it's important to introduce one of the most overlooked ideas Napoleon Hill emphasized: It's the 6 higher faculties of the mind. If you revisit Episode #67[ii], I explain how living only through our five senses can limit results. Our five senses are connected to the conscious mind. But beyond them lie six higher faculties, including: imagination intuition perception will reason memory Hill believed intuition and imagination were so powerful that he devoted entire chapters to them. These faculties allow us to: access deeper insight perceive what others miss gain a competitive advantage Intuition: A Sales Superpower If I had to choose three higher faculties most useful in sales for us to develop, they would be: intuition perception will Let's focus on intuition. Intuition is the mental tool that allows you to feel truth: a gut sense an inner knowing a subtle emotional signal It develops with practice—and trust. Putting Intuition Into Action (Sales) When you're presenting to someone, intuition answers questions like: Are they engaged, but holding a question? Do they need more information—or less? Is it time to continue… or time to ask for the decision? Highly intuitive sales professionals can sense: certainty hesitation trust resistance —even without being in the same room with this person. Sales at Its Highest Level This brings us back to Paul Martinelli's reminder: “Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion. And the primary emotion is certainty.” When intuition is developed, you know: when certainty has been transferred when the buyer is ready when the close is natural Eventually, as your higher faculties become conditioned through autosuggestion, you access them automatically—without effort or overthinking. Closing Thought — Chapter IV: Autosuggestion Autosuggestion is not about forcing belief. It's about training alignment. When your thoughts, emotions, and actions match: confidence becomes automatic intuition sharpens results follow naturally Your inner script always becomes your outer results. And that's why autosuggestion is not optional. It's foundational. Chapter V: Specialized Knowledge Why Authority Always Outsells Enthusiasm Core Idea: Knowledge only becomes power when it's organized and applied. Sales Application: Moving from “presenter” to trusted expert Leading the conversation instead of reacting Why winging it destroys certainty Listener Takeaway: Mastery creates calm authority. Chapter V — Specialized Knowledge Why Expertise—Not Information—Creates Sales Success To further refine what we want to achieve, Chapter 5 of Think and Grow Rich introduces a critical distinction: not all knowledge is created equally. Napoleon Hill explains that it is specialized knowledge—not general knowledge—that separates you from everyone else and makes you valuable. Knowledge alone, Hill reminds us, is only potential power. “Knowledge (general or specialized) must be organized and intelligently directed, and is only potential power. It becomes power only when, and if, it is organized into definite plans of action and directed to a definite end.” (Chapter V, p. 79, TAGR) In other words: Information does nothing on its own. Application is everything. Why This Matters (Education vs. Application) This becomes clear when we think about formal education. Much of what we learn in school is general knowledge—useful only if we apply it in a specific way. Hill calls this the missing link in education: “The failure of educational institutions is that it fails to teach students HOW TO ORGANIZE AND USE KNOWLEDGE after they acquire it.” (Chapter V, p. 80, TAGR) This insight alone explains why so many intelligent people struggle to produce results—especially in sales. They know a lot, but they haven't organized that knowledge into a repeatable system of action. Henry Ford and the Myth of ‘Not Being Educated' Henry Ford is Hill's perfect example. Ford famously said he had a row of buttons on his desk—buttons he could press to access any knowledge he needed. He didn't need to personally possess all information. He needed to know: where to get it who to ask how to apply it Hill wrote: “Any person is educated who knows where to get knowledge when needed, and how to organize that knowledge into definite plans of action.” (Chapter V, p. 81, TAGR) Through his Master Mind, Ford had access to all the specialized knowledge required to become one of the wealthiest men in America. This is a critical lesson for sales professionals: You do not need to know everything. You need to know what matters most, and how to apply it. Why Some Ideas Succeed and Others Don't This principle explains why some books—and businesses—succeed at extraordinary levels while others, though insightful, fall short. Take Stephen Covey's The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People. Its impact wasn't just the ideas—it was the framework. Covey gave readers clear steps for how to apply each habit in real life. Contrast that with Eckhart Tolle's The Power of Now. An incredible book, (I love this book- I own it-and it's on my bookshelf). It's rich in insight—but for many readers, it's difficult to apply without additional guidance or structure. The difference is not wisdom. It's organized, specialized knowledge. “Knowledge is not power until it is organized into definite plans of action.” (Chapter V, p. 80, TAGR) What ‘Educated' Really Means Hill reminds us that education does not mean memorization or credentials. The word educate comes from the Latin educo, meaning: to draw out to develop from within An educated person is not someone with the most information—but someone who has developed the faculties of their mind to acquire, apply, and direct knowledge effectively. This is where Specialized Knowledge intersects with: imagination intuition perception will —faculties we explored earlier in the series. Chapter V Specialized Knowledge Applied to Sales In sales, Specialized Knowledge looks like this: Knowing your customer's world, not just your product Understanding patterns in their world that match with yours, not scripts that lack meaning Being able to simplify complexity for the buyer Organizing your knowledge into a repeatable sales process This is what creates authority. When something comes naturally to you—but amazes others—you are operating in specialized knowledge. That's where confidence comes from. That's where trust is built. That's where sales success compounds. How to Use Specialized Knowledge to Reach New Heights (Sales Tips) 1. Identify What You Do Naturally Well Ask yourself: What do people come to me for? What feels obvious to me but confusing to others? That's your starting point for specialization. 2. Organize Your Knowledge into a Framework Turn what you know into: a process a checklist a conversation flow Frameworks build confidence—for you and the buyer where you can point to them clearly where they are in the process, showing them how to move to where they want to go. 3. Learn Continuously—but Selectively Don't collect information. Acquire purposeful knowledge aligned to your goal. Ask: Does this help me serve better? Does this help my buyer decide? 4. Use a Master Mind No top performer succeeds alone. Surround yourself with: mentors peers coaches Borrow knowledge, insight, and certainty with every action that you take. 5. Apply, Review, Refine Specialized knowledge compounds only when used. Apply what you learn. Review results. Refine your approach. This is how expertise is built. Final Insight — Chapter V: Specialized Knowledge Sales success does not come from knowing more. It comes from knowing what matters, organizing it into action, and applying it consistently. When Specialized Knowledge is combined with Imagination, it creates something powerful: A unique and successful business. And this brings us naturally to the next chapters—where imagination, planning, and decision transform knowledge into results. Chapter VI: Imagination Selling the Future Before the Close                  Core Idea: People buy future identity, not features. Sales Application: Painting the “after” state Emotional buy-in before logical justification Don't quit when you are at “3 Feet from Gold” (Chapter 1, TAGR, Page 5). Listener Takeaway People don't buy solutions. They buy who they become after the solution. And it is the salesperson's role to activate the buyer's imagination—to help them see themselves on the other side of the decision. This brings us back to Paul Martinelli's reminder: “Sales at its highest level is the transference of emotion. And the primary emotion is certainty.” Imagination is what creates that certainty. Before a buyer can feel certain, they must first imagine the outcome: life after their problem is solved success after the decision is made themselves operating at a higher level When imagination is engaged, certainty follows. And when certainty is present, the decision becomes natural. Can you see how all of these success principles tie into each other? Like the colors of the rainbow. Chapter VI: Imagination Review of Chapter VI — Our Imagination “Imagination is everything,” according to American author and radio speaker Earl Nightingale, who devoted much of his work to human character development, motivation, and the pursuit of a meaningful life. Every great invention is created in two places: first in the mind of the inventor, and then in the physical world when the idea is brought into form. Our lives reflect how effectively we use our imagination. When we reach a plateau of success, it is not effort alone that takes us to the next level—it is imagination. Imagination allows us to see beyond our current circumstances and envision what is possible next. This is why creating a crystal-clear vision is so important. When we write and read our vision twice a day, we intentionally activate our imagination. Writing and reading that vision in detail stimulates recognition centers in the brain. What may initially feel unrealistic or even like a “pipe dream” begins to feel familiar. Over time, the brain accepts it as something possible—something achievable. Eventually, what once felt distant becomes something you can see yourself doing. And then, one day, what you imagined becomes your reality. When you look at the world through this lens, it's remarkable to consider how much has changed in just the last 50 years—and how quickly that pace is accelerating. These new innovations began in someone's mind first. The most recent leap forward is with artificial intelligence, but it follows the same pattern as every major breakthrough before it. Someone first imagined a world where: Amazon would dominate retail while owning almost no physical stores Uber would transform transportation while owning almost no cars Facebook would scale globally while creating no content Airbnb would become a hospitality giant while owning no real estate Netflix would redefine entertainment without being a TV channel Bitcoin would create value without physical coins Each of these began as an idea before evidence—a vision before execution. The same principle applies to our goals, our careers, and our success. Everything we create begins with imagination. When imagination is paired with belief, intention, and action, it becomes a powerful force that shapes not only individual outcomes, but the direction of the world itself.   Closing Thought — Chapter VI Imagination is not fantasy. It is the starting point of all progress. What you are able to imagine clearly today is what you are capable of creating tomorrow. How to Use Imagination for Sales Success Turning Possibility into Certainty 1. Understand the Role of Imagination in Sales Imagination is not fantasy. In sales, imagination is pre-decision certainty. Before a buyer can decide, they must first: see a different future feel themselves in it believe it is attainable Your job as the salesperson is to guide that mental rehearsal. People don't buy products. They buy the future version of themselves (with the certainty that you paint for them). 2. Imagine the Outcome Before the Buyer Does Top sales professionals do not start with features. They start with vision. Before the call, ask yourself: Who does my buyer become after the purchase? What changes in their day-to-day life? What problem is no longer taking up mental space? How you can support and guide them in this process. If you cannot imagine the outcome clearly, your buyer won't either.

John Hilton III was born in San Francisco and grew up in Seattle. He served a mission in Denver, and got a Bachelor’s degree from Brigham Young University. While there he met his wife Lani and they have six children. They have lived in Boise, Boston, Miami, Mexico, Jerusalem and China. John has a Master’s degree from Harvard and a Ph.D from BYU, both in Education. John is a professor of Religious Education at BYU. John has published several books with Deseret Book, including Considering the Cross: How Calvary Connects Us with Christ. He's the author of the new course “Finding Christ in the Old Testament.” Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links ScriptureCentral.org Scripture Central on YouTube Finding Christ in the Old Testament Newsroom: New Guidance on Bible Translations for Latter-day Saints Handbook: 38.8.40.1 Editions and translations of the Holy Bible YouVersion Bible App page (Apple app here) Keeping Jesus as the Center of Leadership | An Interview with John Hilton III Connecting Others to Jesus Through the Cross at Calvary | An Interview with John Hilton III Bearded Bishops, Rated-R Movies, & the Honor Code | An Interview with John Hilton III Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights In this episode, John discusses the recent changes in the Church’s approach to Bible translations and how these changes can enhance understanding of the scriptures, particularly the Old Testament. The conversation emphasizes the importance of accessibility and comprehension in scripture study. Key Insights The Church’s handbook now states that while members should generally use a preferred or church-published edition of the Bible, other translations may also be used, reflecting a shift towards inclusivity and understanding. Many individuals struggle with the King James Version due to its higher reading level, which can hinder their engagement with the scriptures. Simpler translations can provide clarity and accessibility. Various Bible translations, such as the English Standard Version (ESV) and New International Version (NIV), can help bridge the gap for those who find the King James Version challenging, making the scriptures more relatable and understandable. The discussion highlights the importance of using different translations in teaching settings to enhance comprehension and engagement, particularly for youth and those unfamiliar with the King James Version. Leaders are encouraged to create an inclusive environment in classes where all translations are respected, fostering a space for discussion and learning. Leadership Applications Leaders can promote the use of various Bible translations in their classes to help members better understand scriptural principles, especially for those who may struggle with traditional texts. By being aware of the reading levels of different translations, leaders can guide individuals to resources that suit their comprehension needs, ensuring that everyone can access the teachings of the scriptures. Encouraging open discussions about different translations can help create a welcoming atmosphere in church settings, allowing members to feel comfortable sharing their insights and questions without fear of judgment. 00:02:44 – Guest Introduction: John Hilton III 00:03:26 – Classroom Applications of Bible Translations 00:04:08 – John Hilton’s Projects with Scripture Central 00:04:50 – Changes in Church Handbook Regarding Bible Translations 00:08:34 – Discussion on Handbook Changes 00:14:33 – Historical Context of Bible Translations 00:19:07 – Addressing Concerns About Modern Translations 00:21:18 – Recommendations for Bible Translations 00:24:31 – Using Different Translations for Comprehension 00:26:04 – Importance of Accessible Translations for Youth 00:28:01 – Anticipating Classroom Dynamics with Various Translations 00:30:21 – Creating a Respectful Classroom Environment 00:32:51 – Teaching Strategies for Engaging with Scriptures 00:41:18 – The Role of Listening to Scripture 00:44:10 – Speculation on Future Translations of Church Scriptures 00:47:44 – Encouraging Leaders to Support Comprehension in Others The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. 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Joshua Sears earned his BA in Ancient Near Eastern Studies at Brigham Young University, an MA from The Ohio State University, and a PhD in Hebrew Bible from The University of Texas at Austin. His research focuses on biblical polygamy, the book of Isaiah, and Latter-day Saint Bible editions. He has presented at numerous academic and Church-related conferences and is the author of A Modern Guide to an Old Testament. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links A Modern Guide to an Old Testament BYU Religious Studies Center: rsc.byu.edu Kerry Muhlestein: “A Savior with a Sword” Blue Letter Bible BibleHub NetBible.org NRSVUE Bible: New Revised Standard Version Updated Edition Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Key Insights Understanding Genres: The Old Testament contains various literary genres, including poetry, narrative, and prophecy. Recognizing these genres is crucial for proper interpretation and enhances the reading experience. Challenges of the Old Testament: The text is lengthy and covers a vast historical period, which can be overwhelming. It also includes complex themes such as violence and cultural practices that may challenge modern readers. Christ in the Old Testament: Jehovah, the Lord in the Old Testament, is identified as the premortal Jesus Christ. Understanding this connection allows readers to see Christ’s active role throughout the text, not just in prophecies of His mortal ministry. Resources for Study: Utilizing various resources, including the Come Follow Me manual, podcasts, and online tools, can enhance understanding and provide context for difficult passages. Addressing Difficult Questions: It is acceptable for teachers to admit when they do not know the answer to a question. This honesty fosters a learning environment and encourages further exploration of the scriptures. Leadership Applications Encouraging Engagement: Leaders can promote a deeper understanding of the Old Testament by encouraging members to explore its genres and themes, helping them to appreciate its relevance to their faith. Creating a Supportive Environment: By modeling humility and openness about not having all the answers, leaders can create a safe space for discussion and inquiry, allowing members to feel comfortable asking questions. Utilizing Resources: Leaders should leverage available resources, such as the new institute manuals and online tools, to prepare lessons that are informative and engaging, ensuring that the focus remains on the scriptures themselves. Timestamps 00:03:02 – Overview of “A Modern Guide to an Old Testament” 00:04:18 – Challenges of the Old Testament 00:05:33 – The Complexity of Old Testament Genres 00:06:43 – Teaching Strategies for the Old Testament 00:08:10 – Shifting Mindsets for Old Testament Study 00:09:48 – Importance of Understanding Context 00:11:06 – Balancing Content Mastery and Teaching 00:12:28 – Keeping Jesus Christ at the Center 00:14:10 – Resources for Hebrew Words and Translations 00:15:46 – Using Podcasts for Study 00:17:27 – Navigating Difficult Questions in Class 00:19:19 – Emphasizing Conversion in Teaching 00:20:30 – The Role of AI in Biblical Study 00:22:04 – Addressing Tough Issues in the Old Testament The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

It has been a very long road to get to this place with Rusty. He and I have spent countless days and more miles than I care to think about chasing birds from the artic circle to the mexican border and everywhere in between. But finally we have done it. Rusty and Me together have both managed somehow to hunt and harvest every upland bird species in north america TOGETHER.  Katie Willis and Kirk Adams helped make this possible.  In this episode we discuss how amazing valley quail are as a game bird. Covey dynamics, mountain lions, chukar and much much more.  

Heute geht es um den siebten und letzten Weg zur Effektivität nach Stephen R. Covey: „Die Säge schärfen.“ Vielleicht fragst du dich: „Was hat eine Säge mit Effektivität zu tun?“ Covey erzählt die Geschichte von einem Holzfäller, der stundenlang einen Baum zersägt. Jemand rät ihm: „Mach eine Pause und schärfe die Säge.“ Doch der Holzfäller sagt: „Dafür habe ich keine Zeit – ich muss weitersägen!“ Das ist die Falle, in die viele von uns tappen: Wir sind so beschäftigt mit Tun, dass wir keine Zeit nehmen, uns selbst zu erneuern. Der siebte Weg erinnert uns: Wenn wir wachsen und uns regelmäßig regenerieren, sind wir langfristig effektiver. Alle im Podcast angesprochenen Seminare und Angebote findest du unter: https://speedlearning.academy

12-7-25 AM WorshipThe King Series"A King Foretold"Luke 1:26-38Who was Mary and what was her role in the first advent of our Lord? Join us as we explore the humble servant mindset of this extraordinary young woman.Preacher-Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: https://www.youtube.com/@MonroevillechristianchurchConnect Card: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ Give Online: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/givingCCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#VirginMary #MotherofJesus #pittsburghbiblestudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

AM Worship - 11-9-25"What Does a Life in Christ Look Like" Comments from Colossae SeriesColossians 4:2-6Teacher-Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: https://www.youtube.com/@MonroevillechristianchurchConnect Card: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ Give Online: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/givingCCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

11-16-25 AM Worship Service"Faithful Servants" Comments from Colossae SeriesColossians 4:7-18Preacher - Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: https://www.youtube.com/@MonroevillechristianchurchConnect Card: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ Give Online: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/givingCCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

11-23-25 AM Worship"What Was Paul Thankful For?"Philippians 1:3-8Teacher-Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: https://www.youtube.com/@MonroevillechristianchurchConnect Card: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ Give Online: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/givingCCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

12-14-2025 AM WorshipThe King SeriesSermon - "The Kings Herald"Luke 1:39-80Who was John the Baptist? What was his role in preparing the way for the King of Kings?Preacher - Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: https://www.youtube.com/@MonroevillechristianchurchConnect Card: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ Give Online: https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/givingCCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#JohntheBaptist #TheFirstAdventofChrist #pittsburghbiblestudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

Will Kennedy and Isiah Gray are members of Brothaz in the Foyer, a group that produces content to represent and share the experiences of Black members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. They are part of a larger group of hosts for the Brothaz in the Foyer Podcast, and their goal is to bring people “from the foyer into the chapel.” This conversation explores their personal journeys, the dynamics of race within the Church, and the importance of fostering understanding and inclusivity. Links YouTube: @brothazinthefoyer Instagram: @brothazinthefoyer TikTok: @brothazinthefoyer Paul Reeve books Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Key Insights Experiences in the Temple: Will and Isiah share how their experiences as Black men in the temple often draw attention, highlighting the need for normalization of diverse representation within sacred spaces. Cultural Differences: The hosts discuss how their backgrounds influence their experiences in the Church, noting that cultural differences can lead to misunderstandings and the need for open dialogue. Reconciliation with Church History: Both emphasize the importance of understanding the Church’s history regarding race, including the priesthood ban, and how this knowledge can strengthen faith rather than diminish it. Empathy and Genuine Interaction: They stress the importance of treating all individuals as children of God and engaging in genuine conversations to bridge cultural gaps, rather than making interactions feel forced or awkward. Political Climate and Faith: The discussion touches on the politicization of race and the need for members to prioritize their faith and love for others over political affiliations, promoting unity within the Church. Leadership Applications Foster Open Dialogue: Leaders should create environments where members feel comfortable discussing sensitive topics related to race and culture, encouraging transparency and understanding. Educate on Church History: Leaders can benefit from familiarizing themselves with resources like Paul Reeve’s book on race in the priesthood to better address historical issues and foster inclusivity. Encourage Representation: Leaders should seek diverse voices in leadership roles and callings, recognizing that representation can enhance the community’s strength and unity, while also being mindful not to tokenize individuals based on race. Highlights 00:03:09 – Origin of Brothaz in the Foyer Podcast 00:04:34 – Cultural Differences in Latter-day Saint Experiences 00:06:08 – Broader Christian Dialogue and Inclusivity 00:06:58 – Personal Background: Will’s Journey to the Church 00:08:35 – Personal Background: Isiah’s Journey to the Church 00:10:58 – Navigating Church Culture and History 00:14:03 – Discussing Race in Church Settings 00:17:04 – Parenting and Discussing Race with Children 00:19:46 – Encouragement for Friends Struggling with Church History 00:20:15 – Seeking the Savior in Difficult Conversations 00:22:34 – Addressing Race in Church Leadership 00:23:38 – Importance of Validation and Transparency 00:25:27 – Practical Approaches for Church Leaders 00:26:26 – Genuine Interactions vs. Awkwardness 00:29:06 – Experiences in the Temple 00:31:17 – Building Relationships through Meaningful Conversations 00:33:41 – Representation and Diversity in Leadership 00:35:02 – Navigating Race in Utah and the Wasatch Front 00:37:57 – The Impact of Politics on Race Conversations 00:42:36 – Mixing Christianity with Politics 00:45:59 – Addressing Racism in the Church Context 00:47:02 – Empathy and Understanding in Racial Discussions The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

In this episode, JoDee and Susan talk about assessing employees' performance and potential with author Sara Bovey Covey. Topics include: What a talent review is Why talent reviews matter The talent review mindset Critical elements for a solid talent review process Challenges leaders face during talent reviews In this episode's listener question, we're asked how HR professionals can grow their skills without leading their jobs. In the news, a Money.com article ranked the five best job search sites. Full show notes and links are available here: https://getjoypowered.com/show-notes-episode-236-talent-reviews/ A transcript of the episode can be found here: https://getjoypowered.com/transcript-episode-236-talent-reviews/ To get 0.5 hour of SHRM recertification credit, fill out the evaluation here: https://getjoypowered.com/shrm/ (the SHRM credit code for this episode will expire on December 15, 2026) Become a member to get early and ad-free access to episodes, video versions, and more perks! Learn more at patreon.com/joypowered Connect with us: @JoyPowered on Instagram: https://instagram.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on Facebook: https://facebook.com/joypowered @JoyPowered on LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/company/joypowered Sign up for our email newsletter: https://getjoypowered.com/newsletter/ 

Primary is so much more than schedules, rolls, and meetings—it's a sacred opportunity to love, lift, and lead like the Savior. In this inspiring interview, we explore how Primary presidencies and leaders can transform everyday administration into meaningful ministry. Michelle Colledge lives in Cedar Hills, Utah with her husband, Rick, and their five children. She owns and coaches at Canyon Gymnastics and loves reading, traveling, and spending time with her family. She graduated from Utah Valley University, served a full-time mission in the North Carolina Raleigh Mission, and has served in various callings including stake Primary president, ward Primary president, and in several Primary and Young Women presidencies. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Key Insights Building Community: Michelle emphasizes the importance of creating a sense of community within Primary by engaging with children and their families, such as through home visits for birthdays, which fosters personal connections. Perceptive Leadership: Leaders should be observant and responsive to the needs of children, ensuring that every child feels valued and included. This includes recognizing when a child feels overlooked and taking steps to address it. Innovative Programming: The introduction of a stake Primary devotional allowed children to actively participate in leadership roles, such as greeters and speakers, which empowered them and made the event more engaging. Personalized Involvement: Michelle highlights the significance of knowing each child’s name and interests, which helps leaders connect on a deeper level and enhances the overall Primary experience. Flexibility in Leadership: Leaders should be willing to adapt and create new opportunities for service and connection, as demonstrated by the transition from traditional birthday celebrations to personalized home visits during COVID-19. Leadership Applications Foster Personal Connections: Latter-day Saint leaders can implement home visits or personalized notes to recognize children's milestones, enhancing their sense of belonging and importance within the community. Encourage Participation: By inviting children to take on roles in Primary programs, leaders can help them develop confidence and a sense of responsibility, making church activities more meaningful. Be Observant and Responsive: Leaders should regularly assess the dynamics within their Primary classes, looking for ways to support teachers and children, ensuring that everyone feels included and valued in the Primary experience. Highlights 00:04:28 – Transitioning from Ward to Stake Primary Presidency 00:06:04 – Finding Footing as Stake Primary President 00:08:19 – Monthly Presidency Meetings and Activities 00:10:19 – Yearly Primary Activity Planning 00:11:59 – Training for New Primary Presidencies 00:12:52 – Best Practices for Primary Presentations 00:16:25 – Creating a Reverent Atmosphere in Presentations 00:18:56 – Encouraging Children to Write Their Own Parts 00:19:56 – Engaging with Children in Primary 00:20:45 – Personal Connections with Children 00:25:13 – Connecting with Primary Presidencies in the Stake 00:27:11 – Perceiving Needs Like the Savior 00:29:19 – Inviting Children to Serve in Primary 00:34:56 – Organizing a Stake Primary Devotional 00:40:21 – Conclusion and Q&A Session The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Visit our website:https://www.thewealthwarehousepodcast.com/Dave and Paul celebrate episode 200 by riffing on Covey's “7 Habits” and translating them into practical, IBC moves. They discuss each of the “7 Habits” and double click on some big x-factors, like consistency, sequencing cash, win-win thinking, and ‘sharpening the saw'. Becoming Your Own Banker by Nelson Nash:https://infinitebanking.org/product/becoming-your-own-banker/ref/46/Episode Highlights:0:00 - Intro1:41 - Episode beginning5:22 - 7 Habits of Highly Effective People6:06 - #1: Be Proactive10:11 - #2: Begin With The End In Mind14:26 - #3: Pay Yourself First18:00 - #4: Think Win-Win20:26 - #5: Seek To Understand24:29 - #6: Synergize28:44 - #7: Sharpen the Saw32:38 - Episode wrap-upABOUT YOUR HOSTS:David Befort and Paul Fugere are the hosts of the Wealth Warehouse Podcast. David is the Founder/CEO of Max Performance Financial. He founded the company with the mission of educating people on the truths about money.David's mission is to show you how you can control your own money, earn guarantees, grow it tax-free, and maintain penalty-free access to it to leverage for opportunities that will provide passive income for the rest of your life.Paul, on the other hand, is an Active Duty U.S. Army officer who graduated from Norwich University in 2002 with a B.A. in History and again in 2012 with a M.A. in Diplomacy and International Terrorism. Paul met his wife Tammy at Norwich.As a family, they enjoy boating, traveling, sports, hunting, automobiles, and are self-proclaimed food people.Visit our website:https://www.thewealthwarehousepodcast.com/Catch up with David and Paul, visit the links below!Website:https://infinitebanking.org/agents/Fugere494https://infinitebanking.org/agents/Befort399LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-a-befort-jr-09663972/https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-fugere-762021b0/Email:davidandpaul@theibcguys.com

It is here! The full podcast with one of the world's foremost authorities on trust, Stephen M. R. Covey! It is outstanding material from someone your team would pay thousands to listen to!!!

Blake Erickson is the co-founder of Scaling.com, a company dedicated to helping entrepreneurs scale bigger and faster than they ever thought possible. He is the co-author of the New York Times best-selling book The Science of Scaling, and a highly sought-after keynote speaker specializing in guiding companies and individuals to achieve rapid growth and seemingly impossible goals. Blake resides in Utah with his amazing wife, Bre, and their two sons. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links The Science of Scaling: Grow Your Business Bigger and Faster Than You Think Possible Scaling.com/Audiobook The Science of Scaling Your Ward | An Interview with Benjamin Hardy Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Blake discusses the importance of setting ambitious goals and the principles of effective leadership within the context of Latter-day Saint service. The conversation emphasizes how faith and intentionality can lead to significant results in both personal and church-related endeavors. Key Insights Goal Setting and Faith: Blake shares his experience of setting a seemingly impossible goal of 100 baptisms during his mission, illustrating how faith and ambition can drive success. Identifying Key Indicators: He emphasizes the importance of recognizing patterns and indicators that lead to success, such as focusing on individuals who are genuinely interested in the gospel rather than spreading efforts too thin. The Power of One: The discussion highlights that often, one person can make a significant impact, whether in a business or church setting, by inspiring others and driving collective progress. Less is More: Blake advocates for the idea that achieving goals often requires doing less but with greater focus, rather than simply increasing activity levels. Cultural Dynamics: The conversation touches on the need to challenge existing cultural norms that may hinder progress, encouraging leaders to empower all members to contribute actively. Leadership Applications Setting Clear Goals: Latter-day Saint leaders can adopt Blake’s approach by establishing clear, ambitious goals for their congregations, focusing on what truly matters to drive spiritual growth and engagement. Fostering a Culture of Participation: Leaders should encourage all members to take initiative and share their insights, breaking down barriers that prevent individuals from stepping forward in service. Prioritizing Key Activities: By identifying the most impactful activities and focusing efforts on those, leaders can enhance the effectiveness of their ministries, ensuring that resources are used wisely and results are maximized. 00:03:24 – Blake Erickson’s Mission Experience 00:04:10 – Shifting Focus on Mission Goals 00:05:06 – Learning from Missionary Work 00:06:58 – Identifying Key Indicators for Success 00:08:27 – Setting Goals and Expectations 00:10:18 – The Importance of Commitment 00:12:10 – Recognizing Progress and Indicators 00:14:10 – Communicating with Non-Progressing Individuals 00:15:02 – Applying Business Principles to Church Leadership 00:16:37 – Scaling the Church and Its Impact 00:18:50 – The Gospel as a Solution 00:20:49 – Manifesting Faith in Daily Life 00:21:00 – Expressing Desires to God 00:23:30 – The Importance of Ambition 00:25:32 – Balancing Church Responsibilities 00:26:58 – Navigating Life After the Mission 00:27:09 – Engaging with Elders Quorum Leadership 00:29:04 – Focusing on One Goal in the Ward 00:30:17 – The Power of Less and Different Approaches 00:32:02 – Identifying False Requirements 00:34:15 – The Impact of One Person 00:35:04 – Onboarding Others to a Common Goal 00:37:31 – Building Unity Through Shared Goals 00:38:31 – Cultural Dynamics in Church Leadership The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Kurt Francom, the executive director of Leading Saints, shares his thoughts on the challenges and responsibilities of leading a nonprofit organization within the Latter-day Saint community. He reflects on the need for support, the complexities of church culture, and the importance of individual leadership in building the Kingdom of God. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links “I'm Not the Gatekeeper, I'm the Welcoming Committee” | An Interview with Kurt Brown Being an Advocate for Those You Lead | An Interview with Robert Ferrell Rallying the Ward Around Sacrament Meeting | A How I Lead Interview with Ryan Webb Getting the Youth to Do Hard Things | A How I Lead Interview with Tanner Pursley Young Men Can Do Hard Things | A How I Lead Interview with Skylar Haws Zion Lab: LeadingSaints.org/Zion Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Funding Challenges: Kurt discusses the difficulties of securing funding for Leading Saints, emphasizing the need for both small and large donations to sustain the organization's mission. Cultural Issues in the Church: He highlights the complexities of church culture, including the struggles of church leaders and members with faith crises, LGBT issues, and the need for a supportive community. The Role of Individual Leadership: Kurt stresses that effective leadership is crucial for fostering a positive church culture, which can help individuals navigate their faith journeys and challenges. Transformational Experiences: He believes that rather than providing formal training, Leading Saints focuses on creating transformational experiences that empower individuals to lead and make a difference in their communities. Call to Action: Kurt invites listeners to engage with Leading Saints through initiatives like Zion Lab and becoming Zion Builders, emphasizing the collective effort needed to build Zion. Leadership Applications Encouraging Community Support: Latter-day Saint leaders can foster a culture of support by actively seeking and encouraging contributions from their communities, similar to how fans rally around a sports team. Promoting Individual Initiative: Leaders should empower members to take initiative in their callings and personal faith journeys, recognizing that everyone can contribute to building the Kingdom of God, regardless of their formal position. Creating Transformational Opportunities: Leaders can focus on providing experiences that inspire and uplift their congregations, rather than relying solely on traditional training methods, to cultivate a more engaged and resilient community. 00:01:08 – The Journey of Leading Saints 00:02:25 – The Role of an Executive Director 00:04:14 – The Need for Funding 00:05:57 – Articulating the Problem in Church Leadership 00:07:34 – The Complexity of Church Culture 00:09:11 – The Importance of Individual Action 00:10:51 – The Law of Consecration 00:12:19 – Building Zion and Community 00:14:10 – Connection to BYU Football 00:16:20 – Community Support for Leaders 00:17:01 – The Call for Support and Funding 00:19:14 – The Role of Leading Saints in Cultural Issues 00:21:23 – Transformational Experiences and Leadership 00:23:12 – Call to Action: Join the Zion Lab 00:25:00 – Becoming a Zion Builder 00:26:25 – Sponsoring Others and Seeking Larger Donors 00:29:11 – The Impact of Positive Culture in the Church The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Send us a textThis month we read and review They Bloom At Night by Trang Thanh Tran. Like all of our reviews, the first part is spoiler free.Here's a little about They Bloom At Night:THERE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN MONSTERS ALL AROUND US . . .Since the hurricane, the town of Mercy, Louisiana has been overtaken by a strange red algae bloom. Noon and her mother have carved out a life in the wreckage, trawling for the mutated wildlife that lurks in the water and trading it to the corrupt harbormaster. When she's focused on survival, Noon doesn't have to cope with what happened to her at the Cove or the monster itching at her skin.Mercy has never been a safe place, but it's getting worse. People are disappearing, and the only clues as to why are whispers of underwater shadows and warnings to never answer the knocks at night. When the harbormaster demands she capture the creature that's been drowning residents, Noon finds a reluctant ally in his daughter Covey. And as the next storm approaches, the two set off to find what's haunting Mercy. After all, Noon is no stranger to monsters . . .Do you have a book you'd like us to review on this show? Send us an email at badassliteraturesociety@gmail.comIf you don't already, follow us on Instagram and FacebookArt by Justin Miller DesignCheck us out here!

This podcast episode features part of a Zion Lab live stream conversation with a group of ward and stake leaders discussing the purpose and execution of ward conferences. The conversation emphasizes the need for meaningful engagement and feedback from members to enhance the effectiveness of these conferences. Watch and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links General Handbook 29.2.3 Ward Conference Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights 04:26 – Overcoming Traditional Approaches 06:08 – Gathering Feedback from Members 08:21 – Creating Meaningful Experiences 10:00 – Handbook Guidelines for Ward Conferences 12:45 – Shifting Focus from Burden to Blessing 14:09 – Unique Approaches to Ward Conferences 15:37 – Scheduling Ward Conferences Effectively 18:21 – Addressing Local Needs vs. Stake Focus 20:01 – The Purpose of Ward Conferences 24:40 – The Distance Between Stake and Ward 26:01 – Building Positive Stake-Ward Relationships Key Insights Purpose of Ward Conferences: Leaders reflect on the importance of ward conferences as a means to unify the ward, provide spiritual nourishment, and address local needs, rather than merely fulfilling a procedural requirement. Feedback Mechanisms: The discussion highlights the necessity of gathering feedback from both leaders and general members to assess the value of ward conferences and identify areas for improvement. Innovative Approaches: Leaders share successful strategies, such as organizing activities leading up to the conference and involving youth, to create a more engaging and meaningful experience for the congregation. Avoiding Tradition for Tradition’s Sake: The conversation stresses the importance of not falling into the trap of maintaining outdated practices simply because “it’s always been done that way.” Leaders are encouraged to innovate and adapt based on current ward needs. Collaboration and Council: The value of collaborative meetings among stake and ward leaders is emphasized, allowing for shared insights and collective problem-solving regarding ward needs and challenges. Leadership Applications Solicit Member Feedback: Leaders should actively seek input from ward members about their experiences and expectations for ward conferences, ensuring that the events are tailored to meet their needs. Create Engaging Experiences: By planning activities and discussions that involve the entire ward community, leaders can foster a sense of belonging and investment in the ward’s culture and mission. Embrace Flexibility: Leaders are encouraged to approach ward conferences with an open mind, willing to adapt formats and themes based on the unique dynamics of their wards, rather than adhering strictly to traditional methods. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints’ mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

Jenn Curtis is the president of North Star, an organization dedicated to supporting LGBT Latter-day Saints. With a lifelong commitment to the teachings of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jenn has navigated her own journey of self-discovery and faith, advocating for understanding and compassion within the Church community. She has been actively involved in creating resources and spaces for dialogue around LGBT issues and faith, helping individuals reconcile their identities with their beliefs. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links NorthStarSaints.org Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights This podcast conversation centers on Jenn's personal journey with same-sex attraction, her experiences within the church, and the importance of community and understanding in navigating these complex issues. Key Insights Personal Journey: Jenn shares her experience of coming to terms with her same-sex attraction while married, emphasizing the internal struggles and the process of self-discovery. Community Support: The North Star community provides a safe space for LGBT individuals and their families, fostering open dialogue and understanding about faith and sexuality. Curiosity Over Judgment: Jenn highlights the importance of curiosity in conversations about LGBT issues, suggesting that church leaders should ask questions and seek to understand rather than make assumptions. Covenant Path: The discussion emphasizes that North Star promotes a gospel-centered approach, encouraging members to strive to keep their covenants while navigating their identities. Tension in Faith: Jenn acknowledges the tension many LGBT individuals feel between their faith and their sexual orientation, advocating for a compassionate and understanding approach from church leaders. Leadership Applications Foster Open Dialogue: Leaders can create environments where members feel safe to discuss their struggles and questions about faith and sexuality without fear of judgment. Encourage Curiosity: Leaders should practice curiosity by asking open-ended questions to better understand the experiences of LGBT members, which can help reduce fear and stigma. Promote Inclusivity: By recognizing the diverse experiences within their congregations, leaders can work towards creating a more inclusive community that supports all members in their faith journeys. 00:04:48 - Jenn's Personal Story and Journey 00:08:36 - Discovering Same-Sex Attraction 00:10:39 - Navigating Marriage and Self-Discovery 00:12:07 - Initial Reactions to Self-Discovery 00:14:18 - The Dual Existence of Living with Same-Sex Attraction 00:16:22 - Conversations with Her Husband 00:20:42 - Coming Out to Her Husband 00:22:27 - Finding Community in North Star 00:24:21 - Advice for Attending North Star Conference 00:26:15 - The Transformational Experience of North Star 00:28:14 - Creating a Welcoming Church Environment 00:30:46 - The Role of Curiosity in Understanding 00:32:20 - The Importance of Being Open and Listening 00:34:20 - North Star's Unique Approach to LGBT Issues 00:36:04 - Striving to Keep Covenants in the LGBT Community 00:39:35 - Navigating Tension in Faith and Sexuality 00:41:49 - Addressing Negative Experiences with North Star 00:47:10 - The Importance of Giving North Star Another Chance The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck,

In this episode of the Helping Families Be Happy podcast, host Christopher Robbins interviews parenting expert Donna Tetreault about building trust within families. They discuss the foundational importance of trust in parent-child relationships, drawing on insights from Stephen M.R. Covey's work on trust. Donna emphasizes the difference between smart trust and blind trust, explaining how parents can give age-appropriate autonomy while maintaining necessary boundaries. The conversation covers practical strategies for handling broken trust, encouraging self-advocacy in children, and the importance of natural consequences. Donna also stresses the need for parents to trust themselves in their parenting journey and extend grace to both themselves and their children. Episode Highlights 00:00:10: Christopher Robbins introduces the podcast and welcomes guest Donna Tetreault, a national TV parenting journalist, author, and educator who shares parenting strategies on major Los Angeles television stations. 00:01:40: Donna expresses excitement about being on the podcast. 00:01:43: Christopher discusses the importance of trust, referencing Dr. Stephen R. Covey's work and Stephen M.R. Covey's book "The Speed of Trust," establishing trust as the foundation of all relationships. 00:02:48: Donna explains the importance of trusting children in their decision-making process, citing Maria Montessori's quote about never doing for a child what they can do for themselves, while emphasizing the need for boundaries and coaching. 00:03:56: Christopher asks Donna to explain the concept of self-advocacy. 00:04:02: Donna defines self-advocacy as allowing children to build their own lives and make decisions, using the example of choosing friends rather than parents arranging all social interactions. 00:05:16: Christopher introduces the concept of smart trust versus dumb trust, using the humorous example of letting a newly licensed teen drive a brand new Ferrari. 00:06:02: Donna provides practical examples of age-appropriate trust, including bedtimes and technology use, explaining how to gradually increase responsibility as children demonstrate capability. 00:07:13: Donna discusses homework as an example of building trust and autonomy, encouraging parents to step back when children show responsibility rather than hovering. 00:08:02: Christopher introduces the concept of check-ins or mileposts, suggesting a "trust but verify" approach. 00:08:33: Donna agrees with the check-in approach, noting that younger children need more frequent check-ins while older children should require fewer as they build autonomy. 00:09:20: Christopher shares his personal experience as a father of nine, noting that different children require different levels of check-ins. 00:09:30: Donna emphasizes that every child is different and parents should trust themselves to read their children's individual needs. 00:09:53: Christopher asks how to handle situations when children break trust. 00:10:11: Donna advises against harsh reactions, recommending connection and compassion instead, and introduces Tina Payne Bryson's concept of saying children have "bent" rather than "broken" trust. 00:11:47: Christopher appreciates the phrase "bent my trust" as valuable advice. 00:11:53: Donna and Christopher agree on the value of the reframing. 00:12:15: Donna role-plays how to approach a teen who hasn't been attending school, emphasizing getting curious rather than immediately punishing. 00:13:18: Christopher shares his personal story of not attending high school for weeks and how his stepfather handled it with trust and a simple question. 00:13:36: Donna expresses surprise at Christopher's story. 00:13:53: Donna asks why Christopher wasn't attending school. 00:13:56: Christopher explains he wanted to do other activities like skiing and fly fishing, finding school boring. 00:14:29: Donna agrees with Christopher's philosophy. 00:14:31: Christopher emphasizes that parenting is a marathon not a sprint, using the phrase "never judge a man by his youth," and asks about experiencing natural consequences. 00:14:55: Donna discusses the importance of natural consequences rather than arbitrary punishments like taking away phones, allowing children to experience real-world results of their choices. 00:15:37: Christopher notes that sometimes natural consequences can be quite severe. 00:15:44: Donna acknowledges severe consequences and discusses how parents can support children through making up missed work while maintaining appropriate boundaries with teachers. 00:16:41: Christopher asks if there's anything else Donna wants to share. 00:16:48: Donna encourages parents to trust themselves, acknowledging that parenting is difficult regardless of expertise, and emphasizes giving oneself grace as a model for children. 00:17:28: Christopher asks where listeners can find Donna online. 00:17:34: Donna directs listeners to her Instagram account at Donna Tetreault. 00:17:41: Christopher asks Donna to spell her last name. 00:17:43: Donna spells out her name: T-E-T-R-E-A-U-L-T. 00:17:49: Christopher concludes the podcast, thanking Familius for support and encouraging listeners to subscribe, leave reviews, and extend trust one step at a time. Key Takeaways Trust is the foundation of effective parenting and should be extended to children in age-appropriate ways, allowing them to develop autonomy and decision-making skills. Practice "smart trust" rather than "blind trust" by setting appropriate boundaries while giving children opportunities to demonstrate responsibility. When trust is broken, use compassionate language like "you've bent my trust" rather than harsh accusations, and focus on rebuilding rather than punishing. Allow children to experience natural consequences of their actions rather than imposing arbitrary punishments, as real-world results are often more effective teachers. Different children require different levels of oversight and check-ins; trust yourself as a parent to recognize each child's individual needs. Self-advocacy begins early by allowing children to make age-appropriate decisions, from choosing friends to managing homework and bedtimes. Parents should extend grace to themselves and trust their own parenting instincts, modeling self-compassion for their children. Get curious rather than punitive when children make mistakes, asking "what's going on?" instead of immediately reacting with anger. Quotable Moments "Never do for a child what they can do for themselves" - Maria Montessori quote shared by Donna Tetreault "We're trying to tell our kids that we trust you in the process of your life" - Donna Tetreault "Instead of telling your child that you have broken my trust, you can say, you've bent my trust" - Tina Payne Bryson concept shared by Donna "You should never judge a man by his youth" - Christopher Robbins "We want our kids to know that we believe them to be capable" - Donna Tetreault "Trust yourself to know that you're doing the best that you can and honor that and give yourself grace" -Donna Tetreault "It doesn't matter if you've written a book, if you've studied it, if you're a former teacher, if you're a psychologist, it just doesn't matter. It's very difficult parenting in this day and age" - Donna Tetreault

Control is rooted in fear. Trust is rooted in strength. And when you shift from control to trust, you become a better leader. Control often stems from a fear of being judged, a fear of things going wrong, or a fear of losing influence. I used to believe that control equals competence. The more I managed outcomes, the more successful we would be. But what I eventually learned is that control does not create confidence; it kills it. Trust, on the other hand, unlocks potential. It multiplies leadership. It builds teams who think critically, act boldly, and take ownership for results. In this episode of Reflect Forward, I share how I transformed my leadership by moving from control to trust and why this shift changed everything for me, for StoneAge, and for my team. The turning point During the pandemic, everything changed. Suddenly, I was not in the office every day. People could not walk into my office for a quick answer or to bounce ideas off me. At first, it was disorienting. If I were not the glue holding everything together, what value did I bring? But something surprising happened: my team flourished. They made smart decisions, collaborated effectively, and solved problems without me. That was the moment I realized I had been the roadblock. My need for control, disguised as involvement, had held them back. It was humbling to realize that control does not build leaders. Trust does. As Stephen M. R. Covey says, “Control leads to compliance. Trust leads to commitment.” That realization became one of the most important lessons of my leadership journey. The three dimensions of trust Over time, I developed a simple framework to guide me in leading with trust instead of control. 1. Competence – Believe in their capability. Trust that your people can figure things out, even if they do it differently than you. 2. Character – Believe in their integrity. Know that they will do what is right, even when you are not watching. 3. Connection – Show them they matter. Why trust matters According to research by Paul Zak published in Harvard Business Review, employees in high trust companies report 74 percent less stress, 106 percent more energy, and 50 percent higher productivity than those in low trust environments. Trust is not soft; it is smart. It is the foundation of ownership, performance, and innovation. As Sheryl Sandberg put it, “Leadership is about making others better as a result of your presence and making sure that impact lasts in your absence.” That is exactly what trust does. Mic drop moments • “Control does not build leaders. Trust does.” • “Ownership and control cannot coexist.” • “When I stopped trying to control everything, I found something I did not expect: freedom.” • “Coaching is adding considerations without taking back the decision.” Key takeaways 1. Control is rooted in fear. Trust is rooted in strength. Check your motives before you step in. 2. You cannot create ownership without giving up control. Ownership requires autonomy. 3. Trust is active, not passive. Equip people, ask better questions, and coach instead of direct. 4. Develop thinkers, not followers. Build people's confidence in their own judgment. 5. Letting go multiplies your influence. When you lead with trust, leadership spreads. Connect with Kerry Visit my website, kerrysiggins.com, to explore my book, The Ownership Mindset, and get more leadership resources. Let's connect on LinkedIn, Instagram, or TikTok! Find Reflect Forward on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@kerrysiggins-reflectforward Find out more about my book here: https://kerrysiggins.com/the-ownership-mindset/ Connect with me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kerry-siggins/

In this episode of The Birdshot Podcast, host Nick Larson sits down with Brad Trumbo, business owner at Palouse Upland Media. Brad shares his journey from big-game hunting in the East to his deep love for upland bird hunting in the West. They discuss the unique landscapes of Eastern Washington, the challenges of hunting various upland birds, and Brad's approach to bird dogs and land management. Brad Trumbo: A biologist, bird hunter, and author, Brad's experience spans from fish passage research to working in public land management. His passion for upland hunting, especially in the Palouse, has inspired him to write about both the birds and landscapes he loves. Expect to Learn: How Brad transitioned from big-game hunting to upland birds Insights into hunting in the Palouse region of Washington and Idaho The challenges of hunting valley quail, pheasant, and Hungarian partridge Brad's approach to bird dog training and management How to understand and enjoy the landscapes while hunting Episode Breakdown with Timestamps: [00:00:00] - Podcast Introduction and Welcoming Brad Trumbo [00:02:53] - Defining the Palouse Region's Landscape and Ecology [00:04:03] - Brad's Path from Biology and Fisheries to Upland Hunting [00:06:25] - The Transition from Big Game to a Passion for Bird Hunting [00:07:01] - The Story Behind Getting the First Bird Dog [00:08:59] - On Dog Breeds, Aging, and Adapting Hunts for Senior Dogs [00:15:35] - Breakdown of Washington's Upland Bird Seasons [00:21:17] - A Hunting Anecdote: The Giant Whitetail and the Covey of Huns [00:23:06] - The Challenges of Archery and Ethical Hunting Considerations [00:28:30] - How a Dog's Health Issue Catalyzed a Writing Career [00:31:57] - The Journey to Publishing "Wing Shooting the Palouse" [00:34:03] - Blending Natural History and Personal Narrative in Writing [00:39:50] - Habitat and Strategies for Hunting Western Ruffed Grouse [00:44:10] - Hunting for the Love of Landscape Over Bird Tally [00:54:20] - Public Land Access and Hunter Programs in Washington [01:02:10] - The Appeal of Covey Birds and Hunting Valley Quail Follow the Guest Brad Trumbo: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tailfeathers_upland/ Website: https://bradtrumbo.com/ Follow the Host Nick: Instagram: @birdshot.podcast Website: www.birdshotpodcast.com Listening Links: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/17EVUDJPwR2iJggzhLYil7 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/birdshot-podcast/id1288308609 YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/@birdshot.podcast SUPPORT | http://www.patreon.com/birdshotUse Promo Code | BSP20 to save 20% on https://www.onxmaps.com/hunt/app Use Promo Code | BS10 to save 10% on https://trulockchokes.com/ The Birdshot Podcast is Presented By: https://www.onxmaps.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10-12-25 AM Worship ServiceComments from Colossae Series"Living In Christ" Colossians 3:1-11Preacher - Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@Monroevillechristianchurch⁠Connect Card: ⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 ⁠CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/⁠ Facebook - ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch ⁠• X/Twitter - ⁠https://x.com/MonroevilleCC ⁠• Website - ⁠https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ ⁠Give Online: ⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/giving⁠CCLI Copyright License - 139774 CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

10-19-25 AM Worship ServiceComments from Colossae Series"Christian Clothing" Colossians 3:12-17Preacher - Covey WiseLooking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@Monroevillechristianchurch⁠Connect Card: ⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 ⁠CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - ⁠https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/⁠• Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch • X/Twitter - ⁠https://x.com/MonroevilleCC • Website - ⁠https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ ⁠Give Online: ⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/giving⁠CCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

11-2-25 AM Worship Service Comments from Colossae Series"Instructions for Christian Families"Colossians 3:18 - 4:1Looking for a church family?We invite you to grow with us!At Monroeville Christian Church, we are committed to teaching the Word of God, training disciples of our Lord, and transforming lives for Christ through our times of worship, fellowship, and service.Subscribe to receive our latest messages: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@Monroevillechristianchurch⁠⁠Connect Card: ⁠⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/people/forms/510703 ⁠⁠⁠⁠CONNECT WITH US:• Instagram - ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/monroevillechristianchurch/⁠⁠• Facebook - ⁠https://www.facebook.com/MonroevilleChristianChurch ⁠• X/Twitter - ⁠⁠https://x.com/MonroevilleCC ⁠• Website - ⁠⁠https://www.monroevillechristianchurch.com/ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Give Online: ⁠⁠https://monroevillechristianchurch.churchcenter.com/giving⁠⁠CCLI Copyright License - 139774CCLI Streaming License - 20715699#PittsburghBibleStudy #PittsburghChurch#MonroevilleChristianChurch#Christian #ChurchOfChrist #Church#ChristianChurch #ForMonroeville #ThePlaceToBe#TeachTrainTransform #church #churchonline#biblestudy #biblestudyonline #biblestudyfellowship#MonroevilleChurch #churchonline #ChurchinMonroevillePA #ChristiansOnly#Sermons #BibleLessons #Gospel #JesusChrist #God

Mack Story dives into the critical role of trust as the foundation of influence in leadership. This episode offers actionable insights for leaders to cultivate trust, enhance their influence, and build stronger teams.Drawing from his experiences and insights from thought leaders like Stephen M. R. Covey and John C. Maxwell, Mack emphasizes that trust is built on a solid foundation of intent and character.He explains how 87% of a leader's influence stems from their values, consistent actions, and ability to connect with others, while only 13% relies on technical skills.Through real-world examples, Mack illustrates how trust shapes relationships and drives results, warning that without it, leadership falters. He challenges listeners to focus on building their character first, as it's the key to creating sustainable, high-trust relationships that withstand adversity.Mack also explores the dynamic nature of trust, highlighting that every interaction either strengthens or weakens it.Quoting Peter Drucker, he underscores the importance of unspoken communication in building trust and shares practical strategies for blue-collar leaders to align their intent with their actions.From his time in Guatemala with John Maxwell to everyday workplace scenarios, Mack shows how character-driven influence creates a ripple effect, fostering collaboration and inspiring others to follow.

In this episode of the Second in Command Podcast, co-host Sivana Brewer chats with Will Smith, COO and Managing Partner of Lone Star Pups, a multi-location Dogtopia franchise with 15 stores across San Antonio and Denver.Will shares how he's scaled his team from zero to 140 employees in just a few years by leading with servant leadership, radical transparency, and a simple but powerful formula: Time + Trust = Influence.From teaching his staff about personal finance to running anonymous team surveys and writing heartfelt newsletters himself, Will breaks down how he creates a workplace where people feel seen, supported, and connected to the company's mission. He also dives into financial literacy and why understanding money, personally and professionally, is the missing link for many leaders.Whether you're managing a large service team or growing a people-first brand, this episode is packed with actionable leadership and financial principles that can transform both your team and your bottom line.Timestamped Highlights[00:04:15] – How Lone Star Pups began as a post-COVID passion project.[00:05:47] – The story behind Will's partnership with his CEO, Devin.[00:07:43] – Building trust by adding value—not ego—to leadership.[00:09:19] – Why Will left a 30-year hospitality career to run a dog business.[00:11:00] – Making decisions that impact 140 people every day.[00:12:00] – Servant leadership in action: clearing plates, fixing walls, setting culture.[00:13:34] – How Time + Trust = Influence became the company's core formula.[00:16:10] – What Will learned from his first company-wide employee survey.[00:17:00] – How monthly newsletters create connection and clarity.[00:19:10] – The truth about communication—why “no one ever over-communicated.”[00:25:20] – The meaning behind Watering Your Bamboo and why patience drives growth.[00:27:26] – How Will learned financial discipline from his grandfather.[00:29:00] – Teaching personal finance to staff—and why it improves retention.[00:31:36] – “Canary Metrics”: a system to track the financial health of each location.[00:33:49] – Why every manager must learn to write their own P&L variances.[00:35:00] – The link between personal spending habits and leadership performance.[00:40:35] – Helping the next generation reclaim their time, focus, and financial control.[00:41:15] – What's next: growth, teaching, and giving back.Resources & MentionsLone Star Pups, LLC Dogtopia Watering Your Bamboo by Greg BellThe 80-10-10 Rule – Will's personal finance framework (80% bills, 10% savings, 10% giving)The Speed of Trust by Stephen M.R. Covey

According to The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey, success isn't just about achievement, it's about character and purpose. Covey outlines seven timeless habits that help individuals lead with clarity, integrity, and impact.In today's exchange Dustin Huber, Director of Business Analytics at Nussbaum, shares his personal journey with Nussbaum and explores how these principles can transform both personal and professional life:• Be Proactive – Take responsibility for your choices and focus on what you can control.• Begin with the End in Mind – Define your vision and align your actions with long-term goals.• Put First Things First – Prioritize meaningful tasks over urgent distractions.• Think Win-Win – Foster relationships built on mutual benefit and trust.• Seek First to Understand, Then to Be Understood – Practice empathetic communication for stronger connections.Through real-life experiences and practical insights, Dustin emphasizes the importance of emotional intelligence, distinguishing between private victories (personal growth) and public victories (interpersonal success).Ultimately, this episode encourages intentional living, proactive decision-making, and building authentic relationships. Press play to learn how these habits can redefine success for you!FROM TODAY'S PODCAST• Guest: Dustin Huber, Director of Business Analytics at Nussbaum• The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. CoveyLET'S CONNECT• Visit us online at terminalexchange.org • Follow The Terminal Exchange on social media! • Facebook• Instagram • XABOUT NUSSBAUM Employee-Owned, Purpose Driven | Nussbaum is an industry-leader in over-the-road freight transportation. For more information on our award-winning services and top-paying driver careers, visit nussbaum.com or nussbaumjobs.com.

Leadership under pressure can look a lot like control. In this real, faith-informed conversation, Kerri and her husband Terry (USMC veteran & entrepreneur) unpack why trust beats micromanagement, how devotion without discernment derails good leaders, and the simple practices that help you hear the Holy Spirit, set healthy boundaries, and steward your people, brand, and resources well. You'll walk away with a practical self-audit for trust, a 60-second focus exercise to cut distraction, and a framework for bringing values that never waver into everyday decisions - at work and at home. What you'll learnThe leadership shift from command & control to trust & inspireHow to tell if you're controlling or actually leadingThe difference between devotion and discernment (and how both can coexist)A 60-second Holy Spirit focus practice you can use anywhereWhat stewardship looks like in business: money, brand, reputation, and cultureMarriage & leadership: building implied trust, shared boundaries, and aligned rhythms Resources mentionedThe Speed of Trust & Trust & Inspire — Stephen M.R. Covey https://amzn.to/4nOyHYfThe Screwtape Letters — C.S. Lewis (on distraction as a spiritual tactic) https://amzn.to/4q6ueBGJesus Calling — Sarah Young (daily devotional; verify Scripture in the Word) https://amzn.to/4q8Nvm3Main Street Summit (Columbia, MO) — faith + business conference Try this this weekSelf-audit for trust: Do I extend trust proactively? Do I narrate reality without panic? Do I manage outcomes or micromanage process?60-second focus: 5 things you see, 4 you hear, 3 you can touch, 2 you can smell, 1 you can taste. Breathe. Listen. For small business owners Want HR that's values-aligned and effective? Explore HR in a Box - our practical, faith-informed HR foundation for small businesses. https://www.saltandlightadvisors.com/hrinaboxPlus, Kerri's book The HR Easy Button helps you lead with clarity and courage. https://www.saltandlightadvisors.com/bookone About the showDon't Waste the Chaos with Kerri M. Roberts is a faith-informed masterclass on leadership, work, wellness, and marriage—rooted in values that never waver. New episodes weekly. https://kerrimroberts.com/dontwastethechaos Connect & subscribeSubscribe on YouTube, Apple, and Spotify (new episodes every week)Visit: saltandlightadvisors.com for resources & consultingLearn more about Kerri M. Roberts or book her for your next company retreat kerrimroberts.com Navigating leadership can feel like chaos - but the work is worth it. So don't waste the chaos, embrace it. 'Til next time.Support the show

Skyler Wilcox is originally from Logan, Utah and is the senior administrator with the Especially For Youth (EFY) program. He has a bachelors degree in Broadcast Journalism and a masters degree in Public Administration, both from Brigham Young University. After working as a counselor and coordinator for four summers, Skyler joined the EFY team full time in 2020. When not at work, he enjoys cheering on his favorite sports teams, including the Jazz, Cougars, Cowboys, and Mammoth. He also loves musical theater and performing on stage. Skyler married his sweetheart Jenny and they have adopted four children through foster care. Previous Church callings include ward clerk, assistant executive secretary, youth Sunday School teacher, and elders quorum secretary. Links EFY: Especially for Youth Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights Coming soon The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Kirby Heyborne, Taysom Hill, Coaches Jennifer Rockwood and Brandon Doman, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Whitney Johnson, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, Ganel-Lyn Condie, Michael Goodman, Wendy Ulrich, Richard Ostler, and many more in over 800 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.

“  Beginning with the end in mind is very helpful for people who are starting, but also for people who are already in the weeds and they just like, ‘I can't do this anymore. I need to do something else.' Figure out what it is that you want to build and then reverse engineer it and build it.” -Lisa Campbell Lisa Campbell, founder of Accelerate 2 Advisor, shares how to apply the first three of Stephen Covey's 7 Habits of Highly Effective People directly to your bookkeeping business. In this interview, you'll learn: Why being proactive creates stronger client relationships How to begin with the end in mind to design the business you want The importance of putting first things first & delegating effectively To learn more about Lisa, visit her profile on LinkedIn. Sign up for her October 20th Masterclass here! Time Stamp 00:01 – Importance of systemizing every transaction for accurate books 01:04 – Focus on Stephen Covey's first three habits 02:11 – Lisa shares her backstory: from overwhelmed bookkeeper to mentor 03:26 – Discovering Pure Bookkeeping & freeing time to grow beyond data entry 04:45 – Building the Accelerate to Advisor Mastermind program 07:42 – Lisa introduces Level Up Live & her sessions on Covey's habits 10:25 – Habit 1: Be proactive 15:19 – Habit 2: Begin with the end in mind 21:14 – Habit 3: Put first things first This episode is brought to you by our friends at Dext! Dext handles transaction capture, keeps your data accurate, and even simplifies e-commerce reconciliation, all in one place. Join thousands of bookkeepers and accountants who've already made the switch. If you're ready to save time, reduce errors, and make bookkeeping more efficient, Dext is for you! Go to thesuccessfulbookkeeper.com/dext to book a demo TODAY and see how it can transform the way you work!

Host: Zack KnightGuest: Lindsey Streeter, Military Affairs Executive, Bank of America; retired U.S. Army Command Sergeant Major; Owner, Savannah Hurricanes; Founder, Streeter Esports & EntertainmentRecorded at: The Buckhead Club, AtlantaEpisode SummaryLindsey Streeter unpacks the difference between veteran-friendly and veteran-ready, shares the “divine timing” behind his transition to Bank of America, and details practical systems that improve retention, mobility, and belonging for veteran talent. He also talks entrepreneurship—the Savannah Hurricanes, community impact that earned national recognition, and why legacy is the point of the work.Timestamps00:00–01:06 – Welcome, road-warrior points for Lindsey & Lena; ATLVets 12-city expansion01:06–02:01 – ATLVets update: 30,000-sq-ft Roswell Veterans Center of Excellence (co-working, accelerator, human performance)02:01–05:35 – Who Lindsey is beyond the bio: purpose, the “dash,” widowhood, second chances, community focus05:35–06:21 – Entrepreneurship thread: Savannah Hurricanes, community programs, national recognition; thoroughbred ownership as legacy06:21–11:20 – Why the Army, early years, mentors who shaped a 31-year career, sitting the E-9 board and realizing the path fit11:20–13:11 – Favorite assignment: Savannah (1989), Desert Shield/Storm13:52–17:26 – Transition fear, the phone call that changed everything, veteran rotational program at Bank of America18:08–22:18 – Veteran-ready vs. veteran-friendly: right-fit recruiting, five-year lookback, precision nets22:18–25:07 – Veteran Onboarding Initiative (90-day buddy), ERG scale, safe-space learning25:07–26:40 – Veteran Development Program: 5-month cohorts, senior-leader exposure, capstone, retention & mobility outcomes27:25–29:14 – What keeps vets: visible path to progress & purpose; paid service time (TRWB, Team Rubicon)29:14–30:27 – The big vision: careers for veterans and military spouses; portability matters31:06–33:48 – Entrepreneurship as purpose; measurable community impact and recognition33:48–34:47 – Reality check: ~20% of transitioning vets start businesses; the capital/network gap36:42–38:11 – How BofA helps vet founders: CDFIs, Bunker Labs/IVMF, dedicated small-business bankers39:11–44:10 – Hiring advice: dedicated veteran recruiters, translate MOS, hire for coachability, avoid credential inflation theater47:22–49:09 – Becoming veteran-ready without alienating non-vets; why some vets don't self-ID48:28–49:09 – Life Event Services: one number when life hits53:26–55:16 – Financial literacy gaps; Better Money Habits origin story for military families59:56–1:04:23 – Purpose and the personal mission statement (Covey influence), living consistently across roles1:05:21–1:10:26 – Why ATLVets exists: solving the “Now what?” after TAP; VetOPS, accelerator, and sustainable impact model1:10:26–1:11:04 – Wrap, networking, and selfies (season tickets, anyone?)Key IdeasVeteran-ready = systems: precision hiring, 90-day buddies, ERG-powered belonging, visible mobility, Guard/Reserve support, Life Event Services.Purpose retains: service opportunities on company time satisfy the mission drive.Entrepreneurship needs scaffolding: CDFIs for capital readiness; incubators/accelerators for reps; pitch platforms for proof.Translate, don't transpose: MOS ≠ job title; hire for potential and humility.Financial literacy is aftercare: VA loan realities, tax exemptions, and...

This is a rebroadcast. The episode originally ran in February 2024. Marjorie Nelson Lowder discusses the remarkable life and enduring influence of her mother, Dantzel White Nelson. Born and raised in Salt Lake City, Utah, Marjorie grew up as the 9th of 10 children of President Russell M. Nelson and Sister Dantzel White Nelson, surrounded by music, books, art, faith and lots of love. She loves to spend time creating, being in nature and gathering with her family and friends. She is an artist, vocalist, and the author/illustrator of a book based on a favorite lullaby her mother used to sing, Pudding on the Moon. This conversation honors Dantzel's legacy as a deeply-faithful Latter-day Saint, wife, and mother, emphasizing the principles and traditions she established that created a foundation of unity and spiritual strength for her family. Watch the video and share your thoughts in the Zion Lab community Links Pudding on the Moon Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Highlights In this episode, Kurt interviews Marjorie, the youngest daughter of President Russell M. Nelson, to honor her late mother, Dantzel White Nelson. The conversation explores Dantzel's life, her influence on the family, and the legacy she left behind, particularly through a children's book Marjorie authored inspired by a lullaby her mother used to sing. 00:02:55 - Honoring Dantzel White Nelson Discussion on the life and legacy of President Nelson's first wife. 00:04:28 - Marjorie's Book: Putting on the Moon Introduction to Marjorie's children's book inspired by her mother. 00:05:41 - Marjorie's Early Memories Marjorie shares her early memories of her mother and family traditions. 00:08:11 - Dantzel's Background Details about Dantzel White Nelson's upbringing and education. 00:09:50 - Courtship of Dantzel and Russell Nelson The romantic story of how Dantzel and Russell Nelson met and fell in love. 00:10:36 - Family Life and Traditions Insights into the family dynamics and traditions created by Dantzel. 00:12:32 - Family Olympics and Celebrations Description of unique family events and celebrations organized by Dantzel. 00:14:19 - Creating Special Memories Marjorie's reflections on how her mother made family gatherings memorable. 00:16:26 - Navigating a Large Family Challenges and dynamics of growing up in a family with many daughters. 00:19:00 - Father's Medical Career Insights into the life of being the daughter of a surgeon and its impact on family life. 00:22:26 - Church Callings and Choir Discussion of Dantzel's involvement in church callings and her time with the Tabernacle Choir. 00:25:23 - Singing Legacy Marjorie's connection to her mother's musical legacy and family singing traditions. 00:30:11 - Becoming an Apostle Marjorie's experience learning about her father's call to be an apostle. 00:32:04 - Adjusting to New Roles How Dantzel adapted to her new role as the wife of an apostle. 00:33:31 - Mother-Daughter Relationship Reflections on Marjorie's relationship with her mother as a young adult. 00:35:05 - Dantzel's Calm Demeanor Stories highlighting Dantzel's patience and temperament as a mother. 00:39:10 - Coping with Loss Marjorie's thoughts on her mother's sudden passing and the support received. 00:41:44 - Legacy and Remembrance The importance of sharing stories and memories of Dantzel with others. The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy,

In this podcast episode, Kurt Francom and Dan Duckworth discuss the importance of addressing community tragedies within Latter-day Saint congregations. They explore how leaders can create spaces for healing and connection during difficult times, emphasizing the role of vulnerability and unity in fostering a supportive church environment. Dan Duckworth speaks, teaches, and writes on leadership, power, and systemic change. His forthcoming book, The Leader in Chains (spring 2026), challenges conventional ideas and calls for a radical rethinking of leadership—and how it is developed. Links Transcript available with the video in the Zion Lab community Overview Perception of Community Needs: Leaders should be attuned to the emotional climate of their congregations, recognizing when community tragedies impact members. This awareness can guide appropriate responses. Risk of Vulnerability: Addressing difficult topics in church settings can feel risky, but it is essential for fostering genuine connections and healing. Leaders should embrace this risk to create a supportive environment. Purpose of Church: The church serves not only as a place for learning doctrine but also as a community for healing and support. Engaging in open discussions about current events can strengthen faith and unity. Creating Safe Spaces: Leaders can facilitate discussions that allow members to express their feelings and experiences, promoting emotional processing and community bonding. Driving the Hope Train: Leaders should focus on instilling hope and directing conversations toward Christ's teachings, using scriptural stories to provide comfort and guidance during challenging times. Leadership Applications Fostering Open Dialogue: Leaders can initiate conversations about current events or tragedies, encouraging members to share their feelings and experiences. This can be done through structured discussions or informal check-ins. Building Trust and Safety: By consistently creating a culture of vulnerability and support, leaders can ensure that members feel safe to express their emotions and seek help when needed. Integrating Healing into Meetings: Leaders can incorporate discussions of community challenges into regular meetings, ensuring that spiritual teachings are connected to real-life experiences, thus reinforcing the church's role as a healing community. Highlights 06:16 - Institutional vs. Leadership Responses 08:13 - Personal Experience of Grief 10:10 - The Purpose of Church in Times of Crisis 12:32 - The Role of Perception in Leadership 14:01 - A Personal Story of Compassion 16:17 - The Risk of Addressing Difficult Topics 17:41 - The Importance of Community Healing 19:12 - Audience Engagement and Reactions 20:00 - Navigating Political Sensitivities 22:08 - Creating a Safe Space for Discussion 23:37 - The Role of Vulnerability in Unity 25:32 - Addressing the Fear of Group Therapy 27:30 - Driving the Hope Train 30:06 - Preparing the Elders Quorum for Discussion 31:15 - The Impact of Leadership Culture 33:11 - Fulfilling the Purpose of Elders Quorum 38:14 - The Value of Risk in Leadership 40:00 - Living Life Together in Church 42:43 - The Dangers of Hypocrisy in Worship The award-winning Leading Saints Podcast is one of the top independent Latter-day Saints podcasts as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help Latter-day Saints be better prepared to lead. Find Leadership Tools, Courses, and Community for Latter-day Saint leaders in the Zion Lab community. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Reyna and Elena Aburto, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Benjamin Hardy, Elder Alvin F. Meredith III, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, Lynn G. Robbins, J. Devn Cornish, Bonnie Oscarson, Dennis B.