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This Does Not Compute features candid interviews with leaders and experts in the fields of cybersecurity, internet governance, space policy, intelligence, and other areas of technology policy.

Center for Strategic and International Studies


    • Mar 27, 2024 LATEST EPISODE
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    Venture Meets Mission with Arun Gupta

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2024 35:42


    In the last episode of the podcast, host Jim Lewis talks to Arun Gupta, a venture capitalist, lecturer, entrepreneur and author of ‘Venture Meets Mission'. They discuss the landscape of venture capital and government collaboration, tech innovation and overcoming a risk-averse culture.

    Book Talk: “Means of Control” with Byron Tau

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 28, 2024 36:44


    Byron Tau joins the podcast to discuss his new book “Means of Control: How the Hidden Alliance of Tech and Government is Creating a New Surveillance State,” which reveals the shadowy networks of ad-tech startups, data brokers, and government contractors that share or sell sensitive personal information. Tau and Caitlin Chin-Rothmann discuss how private companies and government agencies are analyzing patterns in movement history, financial transactions, and social media communications—and how these actions might implicate privacy and civil liberties in the United States.

    Navigating Spectrum Policy in the 5G Era

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 13, 2024 43:21


    In this episode Jim Lewis speaks to former FCC Commissioner Michael O'Rielly about the future of spectrum allocation, the outcomes of the World Radio Conference, and how the U.S. can still strike a balance between innovation and safeguarding national security.

    Unpacking Immersive Technologies: A Comprehensive Policy Approach

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 26, 2024 40:13


    In this episode, Joan O'Hara and Miranda Lutz of the XR Association join host Caitlin Chin-Rothmann to discuss how immersive technologies could transform a range of sectors, including healthcare, defense, education, and gaming. Joan and Miranda explain why the United States needs a national XR strategy to support research and development, promote digital literacy and awareness, and increase regulatory certainty around data privacy.

    The Optimist's Guide to Digital Regulation with Mark MacCarthy

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 15, 2023 44:45


    In this episode, Jim Lewis and Caitlin Chin-Rothmann talk to Mark MacCarthy about his new book “Regulating Digital Industries: How Public Oversight Can Encourage Competition, Protect Privacy, and Ensure Free Speech.” They discuss the need for a new regulatory body for digital platforms, the future business model of the internet, and why 2025 will be the year of tech regulation.

    Promoting a Healthy Digital Ecosystem for News

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 40:44


    Caitlin Chin-Rothmann sits down with Dr. Courtney C. Radsch, director of the Center for Journalism and Liberty at the Open Markets Institute, to discuss the state of the news media in an evolving technological landscape. Caitlin and Courtney cover recent developments related to Canada's Online News Act, the California Journalism Preservation Act, and the U.S. Journalism and Competition Preservation Act, as well as responses from Meta and Google. In addition, they consider how the rapid adoption of generative AI could potentially affect journalists and the sustainability of news.

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    Quantum Leap: The Current Reality and Future of Quantum Technology

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2023 39:15


    In this episode Jim Lewis talks with Dr. Christian Weedbrook, founder and CEO of Xanadu, a leading Canadian quantum computing company. They discuss the current status and future direction of the quantum industry, the promise of photonics-based quantum computers, and the global competition for quantum-savvy talent. 

    Safeguarding the 2024 Global Elections on Social Media

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2023 42:00


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin-Rothmann and Julia Brock join Megan Shahi, director of technology policy at the Center for American Progress, to discuss how social media companies can prepare for the 2024 global election cycle. They examine how a range of platform policies—including local trusted flagger programs, language support, civic engagement strategies, and generative AI guardrails—can affect how voters view and understand information online. For in-depth recommendations on these topics, check out Megan's recent report “Protecting Democracy Online in 2024 and Beyond.” https://www.americanprogress.org/article/protecting-democracy-online-in-2024-and-beyond/

    Lessons from History: Technology and Policymaking

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 5, 2023 27:49


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin sits with Jason Steinhauer, a public historian and bestselling author of "History, Disrupted: How Social Media and the World Wide Web Have Changed the Past." Caitlin and Jason discuss how policymakers and technology companies can incorporate lessons from history to address modern challenges like artificial intelligence, online disinformation narratives, and more.

    Inside the Department of Treasury's Office of Intelligence and Analysis

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 21, 2023 24:58


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks to Shannon Corless, the Assistant Secretary for the Office of Intelligence and Analysis (OIA) at the Department of Treasury. They discuss the role of OIA in the broader federal government, economic and financial security, financial intelligence, and more.

    The Current State of the CLOUD Act

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2023 35:25


    In this episode, host Jim Lewis speaks with Richard Downing, Deputy Assistant Attorney General at the U.S. Department of Justice. Richard and Jim discuss the current state of the CLOUD Act, the e-Evidence Act, access to digital evidence, and the future of data transfers between the U.S. and EU, among other topics. 

    The Future of Meta's Threads

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 31, 2023 41:25


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin sits down with Anupam Chander, the Scott K. Ginsburg Professor of Law and Technology at Georgetown University Law Center and an expert on the global regulation of new technologies. Caitlin and Anupam share early thoughts and predictions on Threads, a new conversational app designed by Meta. In addition, they discuss how recent developments with the EU-U.S. Data Privacy Framework, Digital Markets Act, Ireland's Data Protection Commission, and Federal Trade Commission could impact Meta's future in the European Union and United States.

    An Insiders' Look at Recent Experiences Freeing Up Spectrum for 5G

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2023 48:43


    In this episode, guest host Clete Johnson discusses the strategic security imperative for spectrum reallocation with former White House and NTIA leaders: senior vice president at BGR Robin Colwell, executive director of Open RAN Policy Coalition Diane Rinaldo, and partner at Wilkinson Baker Knauer LLP Evelyn Remaley. Robin, Diane, Evelyn, and Clete discuss the need for the United States to move urgently to allocate more mid-band spectrum for licensed commercial 5G use.  For additional resources on this topic, check out the following CSIS publications:  The National Security Benefits of Reallocating Federal Spectrum for Licensed 5G Use (Clete Johnson, CSIS): https://www.csis.org/analysis/national-security-benefits-reallocating-federal-spectrum-5g Spectrum Allocation for a Contest with China (James Lewis, CSIS): https://www.csis.org/analysis/spectrum-allocation-contest-china   The Strategic Imperative of U.S. Leadership in Next-Generation Networks (Clete Johnson, CSIS): https://www.csis.org/analysis/strategic-imperative-us-leadership-next-generation-networks  

    Data Brokers, Geolocation, and the Fourth Amendment

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2023 42:10


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin speaks with Nathan Freed Wessler, deputy director of the ACLU's Speech, Privacy, and Technology Project, about how technological advancements have shifted the U.S. government's relationship with the private sector. Nate and Caitlin talk about how government agencies access cell phone location data and face images, as well as some related privacy, civil liberties, and free speech considerations. For additional resources on this topic, check out: Surveillance for Sale: The Underregulated Relationship between U.S. Data Brokers and Domestic and Foreign Government Agencies (CSIS): https://www.csis.org/analysis/surveillance-sale New Records Detail DHS Purchase and Use of Vast Quantities of Cell Phone Location Data (ACLU): https://www.aclu.org/news/privacy-technology/new-records-detail-dhs-purchase-and-use-of-vast-quantities-of-cell-phone-location-data Privacy & Technology (ACLU): https://www.aclu.org/issues/privacy-technology

    How Mis- and Disinformation Affects the Asian American Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2023 53:33


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin sits down with Emily Chi and Jenny Liu of Asian Americans Advancing Justice – AAJC, an DC national nonprofit whose mission is to advance civil and human rights for Asian Americans and to build and promote a fair and equitable society for all. Emily and Jenny discuss how false or harmful online narratives can affect the Asian American community in a variety of contexts, including elections and pandemics. In addition, they analyze various policy approaches to address the structural problem of race-based harmful or false online content, including cultural representation within technology companies, educational initiatives in schools, community-based outreach, and legislation.

    Promoting the Responsible Use of Synthetic Media

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2023 40:37


    In this episode, Caitlin Chin speaks with Di Cooke, a visiting fellow with the International Security Program at CSIS, about the rapid growth of synthetic media in many forms: videos, images, text, and audio. Caitlin and Di discuss the role of digital literacy trainings, platform accountability, and regulations to promote the potential benefits of AI while mitigating risks relating to disinformation, privacy, intellectual property, and ethics.

    Helper Robots: Implementation and Policy

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2023 44:31


    In this episode, Jim Lewis speaks with Kate Weber, Google's Interim Global Lead for Emerging Tech Policy, and Vincent Vanhoucke, Distinguished Scientist and Director of Robotics at Google. They discuss Google's PaLM-SayCan project, the implementation of robots into everyday life, incorporating common sense into language models and robots, and AI policy frameworks.

    TikTok: To Ban or Not to Ban?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2023 39:50


    In this episode, CSIS guest host Caitlin Chin joins Evan Greer, director of Fight for The Future, to discuss recent proposals to ban TikTok. Caitlin and Evan talk about how a national TikTok ban could cut off a form of free speech and expression online and why some advocates are calling for federal antitrust and privacy legislation to improve the digital ecosystem more broadly. In addition, they discuss the role of advocacy to promote inclusive technology policy and what actions Congress and the Biden administration might take going forward.

    The Future of the Semiconductor Ecosystem

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2023 27:10


    In this episode, Jim Lewis speaks with Al Thompson, Vice President of U.S. Government Affairs at Intel. They speak about the implementation of the CHIPS Act, Intel's semiconductor goals, regaining U.S. semiconductor leadership, the future of the chip shortage, and more.

    5G and Cybersecurity

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2023 21:39


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Chris Boyer, the Vice President of Global Security and Technology Policy at AT&T. They discuss U.S. progress on 5G implementation, recent legislative and executive developments in cybersecurity, Open RAN integration, and more. This episode was recorded in October 2022

    Emerging Technologies: Regulation and Innovation

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2022 32:06


    In this episode, Jim Lewis speaks with John Smee, Senior Vice President of Engineering at Qualcomm Technologies. They speak about semiconductor regulations, the CHIPS Act, innovation and competition, American 5G implementation, and much more. 

    The State of Cybersecurity in Japan

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2022 34:24


    In this episode, Jim Lewis speaks with Mihoko Matsubara, Chief Cybersecurity Strategist at NTT Corporation in Tokyo. They discuss the current state of Japanese cybersecurity, relations with China, public-private partnerships, cyber threat perceptions, and more.

    A Space Innovation Deep Dive with Maxar Technologies

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 41:13


    In this episode, Jim Lewis and Greg Allen speak with Walter Scott, Chief Technology Officer at Maxar Technologies. The episode discusses innovations in space technology, the geopolitical implications of these innovations, and more.  

    Technology's Impact on the News Industry

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 38:50


    CSIS guest host Caitlin Chin sits down with Lisa Macpherson, a senior policy analyst at Public Knowledge, to discuss how the news industry has been affected by digital transformation, particularly as large technology platforms increase their market share of online advertising. In addition, they examine policy frameworks to support the news industry—including negotiation models such as the U.S. Journalism Competition and Preservation Act (JCPA) and Australia's News Media Bargaining Code, as well as alternative proposals such as tax credits for local newspapers, non-profit status for media outlets, taxes on large digital platforms, and public broadcasting services.

    Disability Discrimination and Automated Surveillance Technologies

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2022 39:35


    In this episode, guest host Caitlin Chin joins Lydia X. Z. Brown and Ridhi Shetty of the Center for Democracy & Technology to discuss why automated surveillance technologies can pose disproportionate harms for disabled individuals. They discuss how algorithms are often built around ableist norms and standards, and why the rise of automated surveillance technologies across numerous use cases—including remote proctoring, social media tracking, and worker productivity monitoring—both reinforce risks of discrimination and present new legal and policy challenges.

    Previewing UK and EU digital regulation with Zach Meyers

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2022 39:07


    In this episode, guest host Caitlin Chin, a Fellow in the Strategic Technologies Program, speaks with Zach Meyers, a Senior Research Fellow at the Centre for European Reform. They preview the forthcoming Digital Markets Act and Digital Services Act in the EU, analyze transatlantic trends related to competition in digital markets, and discuss opportunities for EU-U.S. alignment on antitrust principles and enforcement.

    Genomes: The Era of Purposeful Manipulation Begins

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2022 58:14


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Carol Kuntz, adjunct fellow at CSIS and adjunct professor at Georgetown and George Washington Universities. They talk about Kuntz's latest report on the development, best practices, and implications of the purposeful manipulation of genomes.

    A Privacy Perspective on the United States and European Union

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2022 44:06


    In this episode, guest host Caitlin Chin and Fellow in the Strategic Technologies Program, speaks with Kirk Nahra, Partner and Co-Chair of the Cybersecurity and Privacy Practice at WilmerHale and Adjunct Associate Professor of Law at American University. They talk about developing federal and state privacy legislation in the United States, recent enforcement trends in the United States and European Union, and the importance of clear boundaries on data use for businesses.

    Cybersecurity from the White House

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2022 48:23


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Jeff Greene, Chief of Cyber Response and Policy on the National Security Council. They talk about the development and implementation of Executive Order 14028, ransomware, open-source software security, public-private cooperation, and more.

    The Future of Defense Innovation with Mike Brown

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2022 47:29


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks to Director of the Defense Innovation Unit (DIU), Mike Brown. They discuss aligning national security innovation to the work in the private sector, specifically a “fast follower” strategy to adopting commercial technology.

    The Russian Invasion of Ukraine: Insights from Andrei Soldatov

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2022 41:43


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Andrei Soldatov, investigative journalist and Editor of Agentura.Ru, about the Russian invasion of Ukraine. They discuss the cyber elements of the conflict, the history of Russian military operations, Russian intelligence throughout the invasion, and the perspective of the Russian people, among other issues.

    A Privacy Deep Dive: Implications for Legislation

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2022 40:50


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks to Jane Horvath, Chief Privacy Officer at Apple. They discuss privacy legislation, including cross-border data flows and the prospects of a federal data privacy law in the U.S. They also explore antitrust regulations, such as the Digital Markets Act (DMA) in the EU and the Competition and Antitrust Law Enforcement Reform Act in Congress and their potential impacts on security. This podcast is made possible thanks to the support of Apple.

    The Key to Cybersecurity: Working Side By Side

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 11, 2022 47:40


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Joanna Burkey, Chief Information Security Officer at HP Inc. They discuss public/private collaboration and cybersecurity from the enterprise perspective, focusing on small and medium businesses, incentives, the workforce, the role of Federal agencies, and learning from the Log4j vulnerability. This podcast is made possible thanks to the support of HP Inc.

    The Evolving Landscape of Tech Governance

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2022 43:49


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Shane Tews, non-resident senior fellow at American Enterprise Institute (AEI) and President of Logan Circle Strategies. Jim and Shane talk tech regulation—from data privacy and protection to antitrust regulation and innovation. This podcast is made possible thanks to the support of Apple.

    Every Company is a Software Company

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 10, 2021 50:17


    Glenn Solomon, Managing Partner at GGV Capital, and Jim Lewis talk about how every company, from pizza shops to clothing brands, is turning into a software company. They also discuss the importance of being a data-driven company, the transition from open-source software to commercial product, and the SaaS model.

    The Future of Startups with PlanGrid Founders

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2021 49:38


    Jim Lewis talks with Tracy Young and Ralph Gootee, co-founders of PlanGrid. PlanGrid is a software tool that digitizes construction plans and was acquired by Autodesk in 2018. They discuss their roles as visiting partners for Y Combinator, the acquisition process, and look ahead at the future of the startup world. 

    Quantum: A Deep Dive

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 7, 2021 41:42


    Quantum computing is closer than we think, and we need to have a deeper understanding of this technology. Jim Lewis sits down with Zaira Nazario and Ryan Hagemann from IBM to discuss the technical fundamentals of quantum computing, its policy implications, and how the global stage can prepare for the next generation of computing.

    RESET: Ron Deibert on How to Reclaim the Internet for Civil Society

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2020 42:24


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Ronald Deibert, Director of The Citizen Lab at the Munk School of Global Affairs and Public Policy, at the University of Toronto. They discuss his new book RESET and work at The Citizen Lab, the challenges presented by surveillance capitalism, upcoming regulation attempts across the world, and needed next steps to ensure a better internet.

    A Conversation with Nokia on the Future of 5G

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 7, 2020 44:23


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Brian Hendricks, Vice President of Policy and Government Relations at Nokia. They discuss the state of the 5G industry, the opportunities presented by Open RAN, and the role of policy and financing in helping to promote open and secure telecom networks around the world.  

    The Commercial Side of Facial Recognition

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 24, 2020 43:19


    In this episode, Jim Lewis talks with Benji Hutchinson, Vice President of Washington D.C. Office and Federal Business and Brent Bombach, Director of Government Relations at NEC Corporation of America. They discuss the emerging opportunities for facial recognition use in the private sector, how the issue of facial recognition is being considered by Congress in the context of privacy discussions, and how the U.S. compares to other nations around the world in the way it has been deploying the technology.

    Cybersecurity in Japan

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2020 33:57


    Jim Lewis talks with Mihoko Matsubara, Chief Cybersecurity Strategist at NTT Corporation in Tokyo and a key player in Japan's cybersecurity efforts. They discuss the state of cybersecurity in Japan, how the Japanese government had been preparing for the Olympics, and the way COVID-19 and work-from-home creating new cyber risks for Japanese citizens and businesses.

    Privacy on the Hill

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2020 48:43


    In this episode, host Jim Lewis talks with Aaron Cooper, Vice President of Global Policy at BSA | The Software Alliance. They discuss how the debate around digital privacy is evolving in the U.S., how Congress is thinking about the issue, and the impact COVID-19 is having. 

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