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⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The healthcare system is, by some measures, the most targeted sector in cybersecurity. Patient records get lifted, hospitals get held for ransom, and the supposed protections often look more like antiquated friction than modern defense. Gil Bashe, Chair of Global Health and Purpose at FINN Partners, joins Sean Martin to explore why the systems meant to protect people's most sensitive information are, in many cases, the same systems holding back better care. A former combat medic, agency CEO, private equity operator, and now author of Healing the Sick Care System: Why People Matter, Gil Bashe brings a rare composite view of how information, technology, and human judgment collide in healthcare. The conversation moves quickly from ransomware and HIPAA-covered entities into the harder questions about AI. With an estimated 80 percent of doctors already using OpenAI tools to assist with diagnosis or treatment patterns, the line between "in the zone" and "precision" information has become a clinical safety issue. Gil Bashe reframes hallucinations as what they really are in his world: wrong facts. And wrong facts, fed back into a system that increasingly trusts the output, create a feedback loop that no one is accountable for. The machine doesn't sleep, doesn't worry, doesn't carry responsibility. The humans on either side of it do. That accountability gap is where the cybersecurity audience comes in. Gil Bashe draws a direct parallel between great coders and great clinicians: both work inside-out and outside-in, interviewing the people who use the system and the people the system serves. He argues that the cybersecurity professional protecting an EMT's routing system, a hospital's power grid, or an MRI data pipeline is saving lives on the same continuum as the paramedic. The skillset is different. The stakes are not. Sean Martin and Gil Bashe also press on the leadership question raised by AI. If clinicians are freed up by 15 percent of their day, what does the system ask them to do with that time? See two more patients on the conveyor belt of sick care, or actually treat the underlying cause of disease? With 18.7 percent of U.S. GDP going to healthcare and 35 percent of that consumed by administration, the answer is not technical. It is a leadership decision about what the technology is for. This conversation asks cybersecurity practitioners, CISOs, and technology leaders to widen the frame. Protecting data is the floor. Protecting the human relationships, the clinical judgment, and the dignity of the patient on the other end of the system is the work. ⬥GUEST⬥ Gil Bashe, Chair, Global Health and Purpose at FINN Partners | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gilbashe/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ Healing the Sick Care System: Why People Matter (book by Gil Bashe) | https://www.finnpartners.com/news-insights/healing-the-sick-care-system-why-people-matter/ FINN Partners | https://www.finnpartners.com/ The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Connect with Sean Martin | https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ gil bashe, finn partners, sean martin, healthcare cybersecurity, hospital ransomware, ai in medicine, chatgpt clinical use, patient data protection, hipaa business associates, health information leadership, sick care system, non-communicable diseases, human leadership in ai, medical misinformation, prompt accountability, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What happens when a deepfake video becomes probable cause? Law enforcement agencies are already grappling with AI-generated evidence, doxing attacks on officers, and a training gap that's growing wider every six weeks. If the justice system can't keep up with the AI threat curve, the consequences won't just be policy problems — they'll be people's lives. In this episode of The Audit, former firefighter-paramedic turned strategic communications consultant Braden Frame — founder of Modern Cartographers and Modern Fortis — joins co-hosts Joshua Schmidt, Eric Brown, and Nick Mellum to break down the rapidly evolving AI threat landscape facing law enforcement and public safety. Braden draws a sharp parallel between law enforcement's slow adoption of social media a decade ago and the AI reckoning happening right now — and why that delay could be catastrophic this time around. 

In May 2026, NYC Health + Hospitals, the largest public health system in the USA, disclosed months long data breach affecting 1.8 million people. Stealing data such as medical records, Social security numbers, passport details, geo-location data, and biometric information. In this episode, Darnley breaks down exactly how third party vendor breaches work, what each category of stolen data means, and why biometric theft is forever. We deliver a 10-step protection playbook to stay protected now and into the future. Click here to send future episode recommendationSupport the showSubscribe now to Darnley's Cyber Cafe and stay informed on the latest developments in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

No Password Required: No Password Required: Next Gen - Ep. 2 - Tim Kircher From Freshman Stress to Cyber Success:  Formula 1, Pickleball, and hacking in Real life In this episode of No Password Required: Next Gen, Yazzel Corona interviews Tim Kircher, a cybersecurity student at USF and member of the Security Operations Center Apprenticeship Program at Cyber Florida. Tim shares how his fascination with technology first sparked his interest in cybersecurity. From networking advice and navigating the chaos of a cybersecurity education,  Tim keeps it real, giving us all the tips about what it takes to get started successfully in the field. He talks about why communication skills matter just as much as technical ability in the age of AI and automation, and how taking things “one day at a time” helped shape his journey. Outside of cyber mode, Tim is a huge pickleball and Formula 1 fan, leading to fun conversations about cyber pit crews, movie hacking scenes, and why Mercedes would absolutely be his dream team. From defensive cyber operations to teamwork and leadership, Tim's story is all about staying curious, building connections, and finding your path in cybersecurity. Follow Tim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-kircher/ Chapters:  00:00 — Introduction 00:30 — Discovering Cybersecurity   00:54 — Advice for Freshman Cybersecurity Students   01:47 — Formula 1 & Cybersecurity 02:10 — Which F1 Team Would Be Vulnerable?   02:28 — Building the Ultimate Cybersecurity Pit Crew 03:01 — Hollywood Hacking vs. Real-Life Hacking 03:22 — Final Advice for Future Cybersecurity Professionals 04:01 — Toasting to the Future Follow Tim on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tim-kircher/ Presented by ThreatLocker

Breaking from the normal Patch Tuesday cadence for an emergency drop. On May 7, security researcher Hyunwoo Kim published a working proof-of-concept for DirtyFrag - a Linux kernel local privilege escalation chain that gets unprivileged users to root on every major distribution. The embargo was broken by a third party before distribution backports were ready, so the exploit is public and the patch is not.CTO Jason Kikta and Landon Miles walk through what makes DirtyFrag different from the Copy Fail mitigation many teams already deployed (spoiler: the CopyFail mitigation does NOT cover this), why AWS is calling it a class rather than a single CVE, and the five kernel modules you need to block right now: esp4, esp6, ipcomp4, ipcomp6, and rxrpc.In this episode:Why the embargo break matters and what changed on May 7How DirtyFrag chains CVE-2026-43284 and CVE-2026-43500 to defeat both Ubuntu's namespace policy and the absence of rxrpc.ko on other distrosWhy this is the third generation of a bug class (DirtyPipe → Copy Fail → DirtyFrag) and what that means for what comes nextThe Automox Worklet that mitigates both arms across your Linux fleet, and what it deliberately does not doTested affected platforms: Ubuntu 24.04, RHEL 10.1, AlmaLinux 10, CentOS Stream 10, openSUSE Tumbleweed, Fedora 44Back to the regular Patch Tuesday schedule next week.Links:Full blog post and mitigation guidance Automox Worklet (in-console for customers): Worklet source on GitHubHyunwoo Kim's PoC and write-upAWS Security Bulletin 2026-027CVE-2026-31431 (Copy Fail, parent issue)

Your organization spent money on cybersecurity training. Someone still clicked the link. In this episode of Darnley's Cyber Café, we break down why most security awareness programs fail to change behaviour, and why the gap between knowing about a threat and actually being ready for it is exactly where attackers operate. Drawing on research from ETH Zurich, real-world breach data, and the 2025 Marks & Spencer cyberattack, this episode unpacks the compliance checkbox model, the rise of AI powered phishing, and the vishing surge that most organizations are completely ignoring. What you can do about it today, whether you're running a security team or a five-person business. Click here to send future episode recommendationSupport the showSubscribe now to Darnley's Cyber Cafe and stay informed on the latest developments in the ever-evolving digital landscape.

Most organizations think they're protected. They're not. Microsoft Defender sounds solid on paper — but in the real world, it's letting phishing, malware, and business email compromise walk right through the door. In this episode of The Audit, the crew pulls back the curtain on one of the most exploited attack surfaces in any organization: email. Co-hosts Joshua Schmidt, Eric Brown, and Nick Mellem are joined by IT Audit Labs' own Cameron Birkland — fresh off three first-place CTF wins in Vegas — for a live walkthrough of Check Point Harmony Email, a tool that plugs directly into your Microsoft 365 environment and shows you exactly what your current setup is missing. 

By Doug Green “AI is ready to enforce decisions at scale—but it's not ready to make them.” In a recent Telecom Reseller podcast, I spoke with Chris Bonavita, Vice President of Strategy and Technology Adoption at GTT Communications, about one of the most important—and often misunderstood—shifts happening in AI-driven cybersecurity. As enterprises move aggressively toward autonomous AI inside the Security Operations Center (SOC), Bonavita argues the industry is getting ahead of itself. The problem isn't whether AI is powerful—it clearly is. The problem is where that power is being applied. Today's AI is exceptionally good at ingesting massive volumes of data, identifying patterns, detecting anomalies, and executing defined tasks at machine speed. In the SOC, that translates into real, measurable value. AI is already improving threat detection, accelerating response times, and reducing the burden of repetitive operational work. But there is a line—and according to Bonavita, the industry is starting to cross it too quickly. AI, he explains, does not understand intent. It does not understand business context. And it cannot reliably distinguish between what is technically possible and what is operationally appropriate. That distinction matters in cybersecurity, where decisions carry financial, operational, and reputational consequences. This is where the concept of “AI should enforce, not decide” becomes critical. In this model, humans define policy, intent, and acceptable risk. AI then executes—consistently, continuously, and at scale. It becomes the enforcement engine, not the decision-maker. When that boundary is ignored, new risks begin to emerge. Bonavita points to issues like policy drift, where AI systems begin to deviate from original intent over time, and agent conflict, where multiple automated systems act on overlapping or contradictory instructions. In a dynamic environment without clear human control, these issues can compound quickly, creating unintended disruptions or even new vulnerabilities. At the same time, the threat landscape is evolving just as rapidly. Attackers are now using AI to develop threats faster, automate reconnaissance, and adapt in real time. Defenders are responding with AI-driven detection and remediation. The result is an environment where both sides are operating at machine speed—forcing organizations to rethink how security decisions are made and executed. Compounding the challenge is the disappearance of the traditional network perimeter. Data, users, and applications now exist everywhere, and access is no longer confined to a controlled environment. In this perimeter-less world, both threats and defenses are distributed—and AI is embedded across both. For enterprises, the takeaway is not to slow down AI adoption—but to rethink how it is deployed. The goal is not autonomy. The goal is scale with control. That means building architectures where human intent remains central, and AI is used to enforce that intent across increasingly complex environments. It also aligns closely with GTT's broader strategy, including its Envision platform and SASE-based approach to networking and security, where orchestration and policy consistency are foundational. Looking ahead, the question is not whether AI will play a central role in cybersecurity—it already does. The real question is whether organizations can maintain control as AI capabilities continue to expand. As this conversation makes clear, the most effective model may not be AI replacing human decision-making—but human-directed AI operating at a speed and scale no human team could match. Learn more: https://www.gtt.net/

Fagan Afandiyev — Elite Cybersecurity Competitor and Legendary Whitehatter No Password Required: Breakout Room: Episode 1 — Fagan Afandiyev Fagan Afandiyev is a cybersecurity student at the University of South Florida and a member of the CyberHerd competition team, known for his strategic mindset and passion for solving complex challenges. From competing in international robotics competitions to discovering cybersecurity through hands-on platforms, Fagan has built his skills through curiosity, persistence, and a love for problem solving. Fagan shares how competitions, community, and continuous learning shaped his journey into cybersecurity. He walks through his growth within USF's cyber community, and how that led to a penetration testing internship at Microsoft. He also offers insight into the mindset needed to succeed in cybersecurity, encouraging others to embrace challenges, learn through failure, and find enjoyment in the process. Follow Fagan on Linked in here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/fagan-afandi/ Presented by ThreatLocker Chapters:  00:00 Introduction to Cybersecurity Passion 3:02   Journey to Cyber Herd and University Life 06:12 Internship at Microsoft and Career Aspirations 08:59 Hackathon Experience and Community Engagement 12:39 Behind the Scenes of Cyber Competitions 14:30  Overcoming Challenges in Cyber Competitions 18:00 Gratitude and Mentorship in Cybersecurity  

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ What if the device quietly recording your daily commute could be turned against you in the time it takes to order a burger? That is not a hypothetical -- it is a demonstrated reality. Alina Tan, Security Architect and Co-Founder of HE&T Security Labs, and George Chen, Security Architect for a large global company, have spent years dissecting the attack surface of connected vehicle peripherals. Their research -- presented at SecTor and Black Hat Asia 2025 -- introduces a novel attack technique they call "DriveThru Hacking": an automated method for compromising dashcams through Wi-Fi within a standard drive-through window. The attack is unsettling in its simplicity. Most dashcams ship with default or easily guessable credentials, and many manufacturers do not even allow users to change them. Within a six-minute exposure window, Alina and George's tool -- DriveThru Hacker -- can discover, connect to, and exfiltrate video, audio, and GPS data from a target dashcam, then use an LLM to stitch together a timeline of the owner's home, workplace, daily routes, and private conversations. The result is a shockingly detailed picture of someone's life, assembled entirely from a device most people never think to secure. The research goes further than individual privacy. George walks through how 4G/5G-connected dashcams dramatically expand the attack surface beyond physical proximity -- opening doors to remote credential stuffing, API privilege escalation, and web-based attacks on cloud-connected accounts. More alarming still, Alina and George demonstrate how compromised dashcams can be converted into a mobile botnet -- a network of roaming, internet-connected nodes whose reach is not bounded by geography. Unlike static IoT devices, these infected cameras move through cities, near sensitive installations, and into places that are deliberately obscured from public maps. The conversation also digs into the broader ecosystem: the infotainment network and CAN bus segmentation (or lack thereof), over-the-air firmware update security, the challenge of detection and response when dashcams have no audit logs whatsoever, and what responsible disclosure looked like when contacting over a dozen manufacturers -- most of whom had no dedicated security inbox and some of whom had no contact information at all. Alina and George close with practical hardening recommendations for both consumers and manufacturers, and a look at what intrusion prevention for embedded devices might look like as this research continues. The connected car conversation has long focused on the vehicle itself. This episode makes the case that the accessories attached to it deserve equal scrutiny -- and that the window to act, like the drive-through line, is shorter than most realize. ⬥GUESTS⬥ Alina Tan, Security Architect and Co-Founder at HE&T Security Labs | Website: https://www.heatsecuritylabs.com/ George Chen, Security Architect for a large global company | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoc/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ HE&T Security Labs | https://www.heatsecuritylabs.com/ DriveThru Hacking Session (Black Hat Asia 2025) | https://blackhat.com/asia-25/sponsored-sessions/schedule/index.html#drivethru-hacking-45214 The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Connect with Sean Martin | https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ alina tan, george chen, he&t security labs, sean martin, dashcam security, connected vehicle cybersecurity, iot security, vehicle privacy, drivethru hacking, wi-fi hacking, mobile botnet, automotive cybersecurity, firmware security, over-the-air updates, credential stuffing, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ What if the device quietly recording your daily commute could be turned against you in the time it takes to order a burger? That is not a hypothetical -- it is a demonstrated reality. Alina Tan, Security Architect and Co-Founder of HE&T Security Labs, and George Chen, Security Architect for a large global company, have spent years dissecting the attack surface of connected vehicle peripherals. Their research -- presented at SecTor and Black Hat Asia 2025 -- introduces a novel attack technique they call "DriveThru Hacking": an automated method for compromising dashcams through Wi-Fi within a standard drive-through window. The attack is unsettling in its simplicity. Most dashcams ship with default or easily guessable credentials, and many manufacturers do not even allow users to change them. Within a six-minute exposure window, Alina and George's tool -- DriveThru Hacker -- can discover, connect to, and exfiltrate video, audio, and GPS data from a target dashcam, then use an LLM to stitch together a timeline of the owner's home, workplace, daily routes, and private conversations. The result is a shockingly detailed picture of someone's life, assembled entirely from a device most people never think to secure. The research goes further than individual privacy. George walks through how 4G/5G-connected dashcams dramatically expand the attack surface beyond physical proximity -- opening doors to remote credential stuffing, API privilege escalation, and web-based attacks on cloud-connected accounts. More alarming still, Alina and George demonstrate how compromised dashcams can be converted into a mobile botnet -- a network of roaming, internet-connected nodes whose reach is not bounded by geography. Unlike static IoT devices, these infected cameras move through cities, near sensitive installations, and into places that are deliberately obscured from public maps. The conversation also digs into the broader ecosystem: the infotainment network and CAN bus segmentation (or lack thereof), over-the-air firmware update security, the challenge of detection and response when dashcams have no audit logs whatsoever, and what responsible disclosure looked like when contacting over a dozen manufacturers -- most of whom had no dedicated security inbox and some of whom had no contact information at all. Alina and George close with practical hardening recommendations for both consumers and manufacturers, and a look at what intrusion prevention for embedded devices might look like as this research continues. The connected car conversation has long focused on the vehicle itself. This episode makes the case that the accessories attached to it deserve equal scrutiny -- and that the window to act, like the drive-through line, is shorter than most realize. ⬥GUESTS⬥ Alina Tan, Security Architect and Co-Founder at HE&T Security Labs | Website: https://www.heatsecuritylabs.com/ George Chen, Security Architect for a large global company | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/geoc/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ HE&T Security Labs | https://www.heatsecuritylabs.com/ DriveThru Hacking Session (Black Hat Asia 2025) | https://blackhat.com/asia-25/sponsored-sessions/schedule/index.html#drivethru-hacking-45214 The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Connect with Sean Martin | https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ alina tan, george chen, he&t security labs, sean martin, dashcam security, connected vehicle cybersecurity, iot security, vehicle privacy, drivethru hacking, wi-fi hacking, mobile botnet, automotive cybersecurity, firmware security, over-the-air updates, credential stuffing, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Cynthia Wyre —Project Manager at Rapid7 and the Queen of Cyber Media  No Password Required Season 7: Episode 4 - Cynthia Wyre  Cynthia Wyre is a Senior Strategic Engagement Project Manager at Rapid7, where she helps connect academic research and industry. Her path into cybersecurity innovation was untraditional, moving from healthcare and construction project management into vulnerability research and academic partnerships.  Cynthia reflects on how she applied for a role she did not think she was qualified for, why professionals of all backgrounds belong in cyber, and how project management skills can open unexpected doors.  Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A., and K. Melton of the Cognitive Security Institute welcome Cynthia live from CyberBay 2026 in Tampa for a conversation about research, resilience, and relationship-building in cybersecurity. Cynthia explains Rapid7's partnership with USF and Cyber Florida, including her efforts to support research around SOC analyst training and burnout, and the future of cyber education.  Throughout the conversation, Cynthia highlights the importance of community, mentorship, and helping people see that cybersecurity is not limited to one path or one type of person.  The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Cynthia reveals how she would work a room full of strangers and how she won a costume contest moments before meeting rapper Young Gravy. She also earns a crown of her own, officially joining the No Password Required fantasy cybersecurity squad as Queen of the Podcast.  Follow Cynthia on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cynthiawyre/ Presented by ThreatLocker  Follow ThreatLocker on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/threatlockerinc/posts/ Chapters:  00:00 Introduction 02:15 From Aspiring Physical Therapist to Project Manager 03:50 Transitioning from Construction to Cybersecurity 05:12 Applying for the Rapid7 Role and Overcoming Self-Doubt 10:25 Academic Partnerships with USF and Cyber Florida 12:56 Leaning into Discomfort and Personal Growth 20:15 The Role of Marching Band and Education in Cynthia's Life 24:25 A Memorable Encounter with a Music Industry Entertainer Yung Gravy 28:00 Lifestyle Polygraph and Fun Personal Questions 37:40 Crowning Cynthia as Queen of the Podcast

What if the tools protecting your organization were the ones compromising it? In this episode of The Audit, co-hosts Joshua Schmidt, Eric Brown, and Nick Mellem — joined by IT Audit Labs team member Samuel Cala live in the St. Paul studio — unpack a wave of cybersecurity stories that all converge on one unsettling theme: trust is being exploited at every layer of the stack. From an Iranian-linked APT group targeting U.S. healthcare infrastructure, to a sophisticated GitHub Actions supply chain attack that backdoored an AI coding library used by thousands of developers — the crew breaks down exactly how threat actors are weaponizing the tools, platforms, and third-party services organizations depend on daily. They also dive into a disturbing revelation about AI-powered audit certifications: one company allegedly fabricated compliance evidence to hand out ISO 27001 and SOC 2 certifications at a fraction of the cost — raising serious questions about what those credentials are actually worth. In this episode: 

Show Notes For ten years, Ed Skoudis has curated one of the most anticipated sessions at RSAC Conference: SANS' "Five Most Dangerous New Attack Techniques: Crucial Tips for Defenders." The session has always been a hit -- standing room only on the main stage -- but this year, Ed says something has changed. Not one or two topics with an AI component. All five. Ed is deliberate about how the session comes together. He starts with people, not topics. He builds the panel around SANS instructors who bring front-line insight, and he starts the process six months out. This year's panel features returning panelist Heather Mahalik, Rob Teeley back for his second year, Joshua Wright in his second year -- this time carrying two topics and eight minutes instead of six -- and, making his first appearance on this stage, Robert M. Lee of Dragos, one of the world's foremost voices on ICS and OT security. The addition of "Crucial Tips for Defenders" to the title this year was intentional. Ed pushed every panelist to move beyond naming threats and toward prescribing action -- practical, implementable steps that a CISO can hand down and a practitioner can execute the next morning. For topics where prevention is impossible, the mandate shifted to detection and response. SANS publishes session notes to their website within minutes of the talk ending. The backdrop this year is a warning Ed calls unlike anything in his 30 years of attending RSA and DEF CON. At a recent AI cybersecurity conference in San Francisco, presenters from Google and Anthropic outlined what Google termed the "vuln apocalypse" -- an imminent surge in AI-discovered zero-day vulnerabilities at a scale and pace that patching pipelines are not designed to handle. Ed's own team at Counter Hack has already experienced this firsthand: a frontier AI model identified a critical zero-day in a widely used open source project in a matter of hours. The Anthropic presenter's claim was blunt: within months, AI will surpass all human vulnerability researchers combined. All of this lands at the center of what the RSAC session is designed to address -- not as a theoretical exercise, but as a set of actions defenders can take right now. The session runs Tuesday, March 24th at 3:55 PM on the main stage, with an interactive follow-on session Wednesday morning where attendees can go deeper with individual panelists. For anyone who wants to understand where the threat landscape is actually heading and what to do about it, Ed says this is the year you cannot afford to miss it. Guest Ed Skoudis, President, SANS Technology Institute; Founder & CEO, Counter Hack | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edskoudis Host Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ Resources SANS Institute | https://www.sans.org RSA Conference 2026 is taking place April 28 - May 1, 2026 | Moscone Center, San Francisco -- Follow our coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac-2026-conference-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-infosec-conference-coverage The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq Keywords ed skoudis, sean martin, sans institute, sans technology institute, counter hack, rsac 2026, rsa conference, five most dangerous attack techniques, ai in cybersecurity, vulnerability research, zero-day vulnerabilities, patch management, penetration testing, defender tips, ics security, ai-powered attacks, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Show Notes For ten years, Ed Skoudis has curated one of the most anticipated sessions at RSA Conference: SANS' "Five Most Dangerous New Attack Techniques: Crucial Tips for Defenders." The session has always been a hit -- standing room only on the main stage -- but this year, Ed says something has changed. Not one or two topics with an AI component. All five. Ed is deliberate about how the session comes together. He starts with people, not topics. He builds the panel around SANS instructors who bring front-line insight, and he starts the process six months out. This year's panel features returning panelist Heather Mahalik, Rob Teeley back for his second year, Joshua Wright in his second year -- this time carrying two topics and eight minutes instead of six -- and, making his first appearance on this stage, Robert M. Lee of Dragos, one of the world's foremost voices on ICS and OT security. The addition of "Crucial Tips for Defenders" to the title this year was intentional. Ed pushed every panelist to move beyond naming threats and toward prescribing action -- practical, implementable steps that a CISO can hand down and a practitioner can execute the next morning. For topics where prevention is impossible, the mandate shifted to detection and response. SANS publishes session notes to their website within minutes of the talk ending. The backdrop this year is a warning Ed calls unlike anything in his 30 years of attending RSA and DEF CON. At a recent AI cybersecurity conference in San Francisco, presenters from Google and Anthropic outlined what Google termed the "vuln apocalypse" -- an imminent surge in AI-discovered zero-day vulnerabilities at a scale and pace that patching pipelines are not designed to handle. Ed's own team at Counter Hack has already experienced this firsthand: a frontier AI model identified a critical zero-day in a widely used open source project in a matter of hours. The Anthropic presenter's claim was blunt: within months, AI will surpass all human vulnerability researchers combined. All of this lands at the center of what the RSAC session is designed to address -- not as a theoretical exercise, but as a set of actions defenders can take right now. The session runs Tuesday, March 24th at 3:55 PM on the main stage, with an interactive follow-on session Wednesday morning where attendees can go deeper with individual panelists. For anyone who wants to understand where the threat landscape is actually heading and what to do about it, Ed says this is the year you cannot afford to miss it. Guest Ed Skoudis, President, SANS Technology Institute; Founder & CEO, Counter Hack | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/edskoudis Host Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ Resources SANS Institute | https://www.sans.org RSA Conference 2026 is taking place April 28 - May 1, 2026 | Moscone Center, San Francisco -- Follow our coverage: https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac-2026-conference-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-infosec-conference-coverage The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq Keywords ed skoudis, sean martin, sans institute, sans technology institute, counter hack, rsac 2026, rsa conference, five most dangerous attack techniques, ai in cybersecurity, vulnerability research, zero-day vulnerabilities, patch management, penetration testing, defender tips, ics security, ai-powered attacks, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The conversation that led to this episode started with a LinkedIn post -- and it quickly surfaced a challenge that security leaders across industries are wrestling with but rarely talk about openly: who is actually responsible for protecting the people inside an organization, not just the systems they use? Roland Cloutier has sat in some of the most demanding security leadership seats in the world -- Global CSO at TikTok/ByteDance, a decade as Global CSO at ADP, and VP and CSO at EMC -- and he now advises CISOs and CSOs through The Business Protection Group. His lens is converged security: the deliberate integration of cyber, physical, privacy, and people-risk under a unified program and leadership model. Roland identifies three patterns that typically bring organizations to him. First, an emergent crisis -- a threat against an executive, a workplace violence incident, a travel security failure -- that suddenly exposes the absence of a coherent protection program. Second, a cost and structure conversation where the CEO is tired of receiving two different risk pictures from two different security leaders and wants a single accountable voice. Third, a board-driven inquiry where general counsel or the CEO is being asked questions about executive resilience and duty of care that nobody inside the organization can confidently answer. What makes this conversation particularly sharp is Roland's framing of convergence not as an org chart exercise, but as a force multiplier. A unified threat intelligence picture -- one that covers cyber, physical, executive, brand, and customer risk simultaneously -- enables cleaner prioritization, better resource allocation, and a fundamentally stronger conversation with the CEO. The alternative, which he has seen firsthand, is four separate threat management platforms reporting independently with no team working across all of them. The episode also pushes into territory that most security programs have not yet mapped: employee protection at scale. Not bodyguards for everyone, but the organizational consciousness to monitor for geographic threats, proactively check in with distributed employees during major events, and build a duty-of-care posture that extends beyond the office walls into people's home lives and total risk environment. For high-risk employees -- those with keys to the kingdom, not just C-suite titles -- that responsibility extends further still. For CISOs and CSOs wondering where to start, Roland offers a practical crawl-walk-run framework: start with shared services rather than full convergence, open the conversation with leadership, surface the gaps the business already knows exist, and build a financial and risk model that makes sense for your specific organization. The goal is a converged security program that treats people -- not just infrastructure -- as an asset worth protecting. ⬥GUEST⬥ Roland Cloutier, Principal at The Business Protection Group | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandcloutier/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine On LinkedIn Newsletter: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Sean Martin's Contact Page: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ roland cloutier, the business protection group, sean martin, executive protection, employee protection, converged security, physical security, ciso, cso, duty of care, threat intelligence, workplace violence, security convergence, business resilience, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The conversation that led to this episode started with a LinkedIn post -- and it quickly surfaced a challenge that security leaders across industries are wrestling with but rarely talk about openly: who is actually responsible for protecting the people inside an organization, not just the systems they use? Roland Cloutier has sat in some of the most demanding security leadership seats in the world -- Global CSO at TikTok/ByteDance, a decade as Global CSO at ADP, and VP and CSO at EMC -- and he now advises CISOs and CSOs through The Business Protection Group. His lens is converged security: the deliberate integration of cyber, physical, privacy, and people-risk under a unified program and leadership model. Roland identifies three patterns that typically bring organizations to him. First, an emergent crisis -- a threat against an executive, a workplace violence incident, a travel security failure -- that suddenly exposes the absence of a coherent protection program. Second, a cost and structure conversation where the CEO is tired of receiving two different risk pictures from two different security leaders and wants a single accountable voice. Third, a board-driven inquiry where general counsel or the CEO is being asked questions about executive resilience and duty of care that nobody inside the organization can confidently answer. What makes this conversation particularly sharp is Roland's framing of convergence not as an org chart exercise, but as a force multiplier. A unified threat intelligence picture -- one that covers cyber, physical, executive, brand, and customer risk simultaneously -- enables cleaner prioritization, better resource allocation, and a fundamentally stronger conversation with the CEO. The alternative, which he has seen firsthand, is four separate threat management platforms reporting independently with no team working across all of them. The episode also pushes into territory that most security programs have not yet mapped: employee protection at scale. Not bodyguards for everyone, but the organizational consciousness to monitor for geographic threats, proactively check in with distributed employees during major events, and build a duty-of-care posture that extends beyond the office walls into people's home lives and total risk environment. For high-risk employees -- those with keys to the kingdom, not just C-suite titles -- that responsibility extends further still. For CISOs and CSOs wondering where to start, Roland offers a practical crawl-walk-run framework: start with shared services rather than full convergence, open the conversation with leadership, surface the gaps the business already knows exist, and build a financial and risk model that makes sense for your specific organization. The goal is a converged security program that treats people -- not just infrastructure -- as an asset worth protecting. ⬥GUEST⬥ Roland Cloutier, Principal at The Business Protection Group | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rolandcloutier/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ On ITSPmagazine: https://www.itspmagazine.com/ On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@itspmagazine On LinkedIn Newsletter: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Sean Martin's Contact Page: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ roland cloutier, the business protection group, sean martin, executive protection, employee protection, converged security, physical security, ciso, cso, duty of care, threat intelligence, workplace violence, security convergence, business resilience, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Madhav Nakar — AI Security Researcher and Documentarian of Spirituality and Play   No Password Required Season 7: Episode 3 - Madhav Nakar   Madhav Nakar is a Security Researcher at BeyondTrust specializing in identity threats, endpoint security, and cloud attack paths. With a background in theoretical mathematics, his current research focuses on analyzing attacker behavior to build practical systems of detection.   In this episode, Madhav shares the pivotal moments that shaped his career, including his first experience witnessing a nation-state attack unfold in real time from his seat in a SOC. He explains how mathematical thinking sharpens security strategy and why strong research is rooted in exploration, not predetermined outcomes.   Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, joined by co-host Kayley Melton of the Cognitive Security Institute, welcomes Madhav for a conversation on modern cyber defense. From AI-driven attacks and agentic systems to privilege escalation risks in role-based access environments, Madhav breaks down what teams are getting wrong about AI and why defending against AI increasingly requires AI-powered tools.   The conversation turns to Madhav's philosophy of “serious play,” where curiosity, experimentation, and failure fuel better research and resilience. He also shares insights from his spiritual and philosophy project, The Fire of Knowing, exploring consciousness and belief through a neutral lens.   In the Lifestyle Polygraph, Madhav pitches a cybersecurity documentary, debates growth versus comfort, and reflects public dancing experiments.  Follow Madhav Nakar here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/madhav-nakar/ Follow "The Fire of Knowing" on Instagram and Youtube!  CHAPTERS:  00:00 Introduction with Kayley and Jack 08:08 Transition from Theoretical Math to Cybersecurity 16:13 Exploring Spiritual Traditions and Madhav's Documentary 19:48 The Intersection of Art and Science in Content Creation 25:20 The Lifestyle Polygraph: Challenging Perspectives on Security

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The security operations center has always been a battleground of volume, velocity, and human endurance. Analysts have long faced the impossible math of too many alerts, too few hours, and too much at stake. For years, the industry promised automation would change that equation -- but the technology was never quite ready to deliver. That moment, according to Richard Stiennon, has now arrived. Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest, has spent two decades tracking every corner of the cybersecurity vendor landscape. His data now shows more than 61 net-new SOC automation vendors -- companies that did not exist a few years ago -- built from the ground up to replace the work of tier-one, tier-two, and tier-three analysts. Some of these vendors launched in January 2024 and reached $1 million in ARR by April. By the end of 2025, several were reporting $3 million ARR. These are not incremental improvements. They represent a structural shift in how security operations can be run. What makes this generation of SOC automation different from earlier SIEM and SOAR tooling is scope and autonomy. The value proposition is blunt: 100% alert triage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week -- with automated case building, threat investigation, and response actions including machine isolation and reimaging. Stiennon points to a CISO he met, speaking under Chatham House rules, who disclosed that a large enterprise had already eliminated its entire human SOC team. He predicts that disclosure will go public before long. The conversation also explores the business context question that security leaders frequently wrestle with: are these AI-driven SOC tools operating with a narrow cyber mandate, potentially optimizing for security metrics at the expense of business continuity? Stiennon pushes back on that concern, arguing that large language models are already trained on the full breadth of human knowledge -- they understand business context at a level that exceeds most organizations' internal documentation. The more pressing risk, he suggests, is not that AI will act outside business intent, but that organizations will move too slowly to benefit. Waiting six months for a proof-of-concept report while spending a million dollars on human SOC operations is not due diligence -- it is opportunity cost. The conversation also touches on data privacy in AI-driven security, the role of federated learning and fully homomorphic encryption for compliance-sensitive environments, and what security leaders can do today to evaluate and accelerate their own adoption timeline. Stiennon will be at RSA Conference 2026 with his new book, Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense, continuing to make the case for a field that is moving faster than most organizations are prepared to acknowledge. ⬥GUEST⬥ Richard Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest | Website: https://it-harvest.com/ On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ IT-Harvest | https://it-harvest.com/ Richard Stiennon on LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/ Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense (Richard Stiennon) | Available via IT-Harvest and major booksellers RSAC Conference 2026 Coverage on ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac-2026-conference-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-infosec-conference-coverage The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ On Podcast: https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq Newsletter: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Contact Sean: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ richard stiennon, it-harvest, sean martin, soc automation, ai security, security operations center, threat detection, autonomous response, alert triage, security operations, cybersecurity vendors, ai agents, large language models, federated learning, siem, soar, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ The security operations center has always been a battleground of volume, velocity, and human endurance. Analysts have long faced the impossible math of too many alerts, too few hours, and too much at stake. For years, the industry promised automation would change that equation -- but the technology was never quite ready to deliver. That moment, according to Richard Stiennon, has now arrived. Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest, has spent two decades tracking every corner of the cybersecurity vendor landscape. His data now shows more than 61 net-new SOC automation vendors -- companies that did not exist a few years ago -- built from the ground up to replace the work of tier-one, tier-two, and tier-three analysts. Some of these vendors launched in January 2024 and reached $1 million in ARR by April. By the end of 2025, several were reporting $3 million ARR. These are not incremental improvements. They represent a structural shift in how security operations can be run. What makes this generation of SOC automation different from earlier SIEM and SOAR tooling is scope and autonomy. The value proposition is blunt: 100% alert triage, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week -- with automated case building, threat investigation, and response actions including machine isolation and reimaging. Stiennon points to a CISO he met, speaking under Chatham House rules, who disclosed that a large enterprise had already eliminated its entire human SOC team. He predicts that disclosure will go public before long. The conversation also explores the business context question that security leaders frequently wrestle with: are these AI-driven SOC tools operating with a narrow cyber mandate, potentially optimizing for security metrics at the expense of business continuity? Stiennon pushes back on that concern, arguing that large language models are already trained on the full breadth of human knowledge -- they understand business context at a level that exceeds most organizations' internal documentation. The more pressing risk, he suggests, is not that AI will act outside business intent, but that organizations will move too slowly to benefit. Waiting six months for a proof-of-concept report while spending a million dollars on human SOC operations is not due diligence -- it is opportunity cost. The conversation also touches on data privacy in AI-driven security, the role of federated learning and fully homomorphic encryption for compliance-sensitive environments, and what security leaders can do today to evaluate and accelerate their own adoption timeline. Stiennon will be at RSA Conference 2026 with his new book, Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense, continuing to make the case for a field that is moving faster than most organizations are prepared to acknowledge. ⬥GUEST⬥ Richard Stiennon, Chief Research Analyst at IT-Harvest | Website: https://it-harvest.com/ On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ IT-Harvest | https://it-harvest.com/ Richard Stiennon on LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/stiennon/ Guardians of the Machine Age: Why AI Security Will Define Digital Defense (Richard Stiennon) | Available via IT-Harvest and major booksellers RSAC Conference 2026 Coverage on ITSPmagazine | https://www.itspmagazine.com/rsac-2026-conference-san-francisco-usa-cybersecurity-event-infosec-conference-coverage The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ On Podcast: https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast On YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq Newsletter: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecurity Contact Sean: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥KEYWORDS⬥ richard stiennon, it-harvest, sean martin, soc automation, ai security, security operations center, threat detection, autonomous response, alert triage, security operations, cybersecurity vendors, ai agents, large language models, federated learning, siem, soar, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ What happens when a cybersecurity professional knows exactly what's wrong but can't get anyone to act on it? It's a problem that affects security teams across every industry, and it's the central question driving Josh Mason's new book, Speaks Security with a Business Accent. In this conversation, Josh Mason joins Sean Martin to unpack why technical accuracy alone doesn't move the needle and what it takes to communicate security in terms the business actually understands. Josh Mason brings a perspective shaped by years as an Air Force pilot and cyber warfare officer, where mission-first thinking wasn't optional, it was survival. As a safety officer, he studied aircraft mishaps, analyzed black box recordings, and learned that risk awareness doesn't mean risk paralysis. The same philosophy, he argues, applies to cybersecurity: teams can acknowledge risk without letting fear of failure prevent them from supporting the mission. Drawing from books like Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, The Phoenix Project, and The Goal, Josh Mason structured his own book as a narrative, telling the story of a CIO who transforms a disconnected security team into one that communicates effectively with colleagues, leadership, the board, and eventually beyond the organization. A recurring theme in this conversation is the danger of perfection as the enemy of progress. Josh Mason uses the Iron Man analogy of building an imperfect prototype, flying it, learning from the failure, and iterating, to argue that security teams need to embrace a similar mindset. DevOps teams have already adopted this approach, and security can learn from it. Inaction for perfection's sake, he warns, isn't going to get anyone anywhere. The conversation also examines whether the cybersecurity industry does enough to learn from its own incidents. Unlike aviation, where the FAA and NTSB mandate rigorous post-incident analysis, cybersecurity lacks a centralized authority enforcing that same discipline. Organizations like MITRE, Verizon, and Mandiant publish valuable trend reports, and the data is there for those willing to use it, but it ultimately comes down to individual responsibility and leadership within each organization. For anyone who has ever felt technically right but strategically sidelined, this conversation offers a practical lens on bridging the gap between what security teams know and what the business needs to hear. ⬥GUEST⬥ Josh Mason, Author of Speaks Security with a Business Accent | Air Force Veteran, Cybersecurity Professional, and Founder of Noob Village | Website: https://www.mason-sc.com | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacmason/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ Speaks Security with a Business Accent by Josh Mason | https://www.mason-sc.com The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ ✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast:

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥ What happens when a cybersecurity professional knows exactly what's wrong but can't get anyone to act on it? It's a problem that affects security teams across every industry, and it's the central question driving Josh Mason's new book, Speaks Security with a Business Accent. In this conversation, Josh Mason joins Sean Martin to unpack why technical accuracy alone doesn't move the needle and what it takes to communicate security in terms the business actually understands. Josh Mason brings a perspective shaped by years as an Air Force pilot and cyber warfare officer, where mission-first thinking wasn't optional, it was survival. As a safety officer, he studied aircraft mishaps, analyzed black box recordings, and learned that risk awareness doesn't mean risk paralysis. The same philosophy, he argues, applies to cybersecurity: teams can acknowledge risk without letting fear of failure prevent them from supporting the mission. Drawing from books like Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People, The Phoenix Project, and The Goal, Josh Mason structured his own book as a narrative, telling the story of a CIO who transforms a disconnected security team into one that communicates effectively with colleagues, leadership, the board, and eventually beyond the organization. A recurring theme in this conversation is the danger of perfection as the enemy of progress. Josh Mason uses the Iron Man analogy of building an imperfect prototype, flying it, learning from the failure, and iterating, to argue that security teams need to embrace a similar mindset. DevOps teams have already adopted this approach, and security can learn from it. Inaction for perfection's sake, he warns, isn't going to get anyone anywhere. The conversation also examines whether the cybersecurity industry does enough to learn from its own incidents. Unlike aviation, where the FAA and NTSB mandate rigorous post-incident analysis, cybersecurity lacks a centralized authority enforcing that same discipline. Organizations like MITRE, Verizon, and Mandiant publish valuable trend reports, and the data is there for those willing to use it, but it ultimately comes down to individual responsibility and leadership within each organization. For anyone who has ever felt technically right but strategically sidelined, this conversation offers a practical lens on bridging the gap between what security teams know and what the business needs to hear. ⬥GUEST⬥ Josh Mason, Author of Speaks Security with a Business Accent | Air Force Veteran, Cybersecurity Professional, and Founder of Noob Village | Website: https://www.mason-sc.com | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuacmason/ ⬥HOST⬥ Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/ ⬥RESOURCES⬥ Speaks Security with a Business Accent by Josh Mason | https://www.mason-sc.com The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcast Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYq ⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥ ✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast:

Sue Serna - Social Media Security and Governance Leader and Lover of All BeaglesNo Password Required Season 7: Episode 2 - Sue SernaSue Serna is the CEO and Founder of Serna Social and the former head of global social media at Cargill. She brings more than two decades of experience at the intersection of storytelling, strategy, and security.In this episode, she shares her journey from business reporter to leading her own consultancy serving companies around the world on social media strategy.Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A, joined by guest co-host Rex Wilson of Cyber Florida, welcomes Sue for a candid discussion about the realities of enterprise social media. From managing more than 150 Facebook pages for a single company, to navigating internal politics, agency relationships, and regulatory pressure, Sue explains why social media is far from “free” and why most organizations still under-resource it.Sue dives deep into the gap between social media teams and cybersecurity departments. She outlines how personal account compromises can escalate into enterprise-level incidents, why governance frameworks matter, and how large organizations can regain control of sprawling digital footprints. Drawing from real-world examples, she argues that social media must be treated like finance or HR, a core business function requiring structure, ownership, and accountability.The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Sue reveals her love of Apollo-era space history, debates iconic Philadelphia traditions, and imagines what magical talent her beagle would bring to Hogwarts.Follow Sue at SernaSocial.com or connect with her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sueserna/ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and First Impressions   02:45 The Evolving Role of Social Media in Corporations   04:58 Transitioning from Journalism to Social Media  11:11 Building Social Media from Scratch   13:00 Becoming a CEO and Founder   16:28 The Importance of Networking   16:54 Bridging the Gap Between Social Media and Cybersecurity  20:51 Real-World Social Media Security Incidents  28:35 Navigating Internal Conflicts in Social Media  30:32 The Lifestyle Polygraph Begins   31:17 Nerd Things That Expose Sue: Space and Harry Potter!  35:16 Sue's Love For Beagles  37:50 Wreckless Intern or Overconfident Executive?  40:42 Hogwarts and Magical Beagles 

Show NotesMost organizations treat cybersecurity as a technology problem. They invest in layers of defense, run phishing tests, and deploy identity and access management tools. Yet headlines about breaches keep coming. Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at the MIT Sloan School of Management, argues that the real opportunity lies not in more technology but in changing how people across the organization think about and value cybersecurity.In this episode of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series, co-hosted by Julie Haney, Computer Scientist and Lead of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Dr. Keri Pearlson introduces her framework for cybersecurity culture built around values, attitudes, and beliefs. Rather than simply training employees on what to do, the focus shifts to shaping why they do it. When people genuinely believe cybersecurity matters, they take action without waiting for mandates or programs to tell them how.Dr. Pearlson shares vivid examples from her research: a CISO who hired a marketing professional to run the cybersecurity culture program, a CEO who opens every all-hands meeting with a five-minute cybersecurity story, and organizations that use creative rewards like chocolate chip cookies and digital badges to reinforce positive behaviors. She also outlines a five-stage maturity model for cybersecurity culture, from ad hoc efforts all the way to a dynamic culture that self-regulates as new threats like AI-driven vulnerabilities emerge.The conversation also tackles the relationship between organizational culture and cybersecurity culture, the role of group-level accountability, and why consequences matter just as much as rewards. Dr. Pearlson makes the case that cybersecurity should move from being viewed as an infrastructure play to a strategic advantage, one that can attract customers, reduce costs, and build competitive differentiation.For any leader looking to move the needle on security culture, this episode offers a research-backed roadmap and practical steps that anyone can take starting tomorrow.HostSean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/Guest(s)Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at MIT Sloan School of Management | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpearlson/Julie Haney (Co-Host), Computer Scientist and Lead, Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/ResourcesLearn more about Dr. Keri Pearlson's research: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/keri-pearlsonLearn more about the NIST Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program: https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/human-centered-cybersecurityCybersecurity at MIT Sloan (CAMS): https://cams.mit.edu/The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYqKeywordsdr. keri pearlson, julie haney, mit sloan, nist, sean martin, cybersecurity culture, security culture, values attitudes beliefs, cyber resilience, human-centered cybersecurity, security awareness, phishing, cybersecurity maturity model, security behavior, cybersecurity strategy, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Show NotesMost organizations treat cybersecurity as a technology problem. They invest in layers of defense, run phishing tests, and deploy identity and access management tools. Yet headlines about breaches keep coming. Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at the MIT Sloan School of Management, argues that the real opportunity lies not in more technology but in changing how people across the organization think about and value cybersecurity.In this episode of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Series, co-hosted by Julie Haney, Computer Scientist and Lead of the Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), Dr. Keri Pearlson introduces her framework for cybersecurity culture built around values, attitudes, and beliefs. Rather than simply training employees on what to do, the focus shifts to shaping why they do it. When people genuinely believe cybersecurity matters, they take action without waiting for mandates or programs to tell them how.Dr. Pearlson shares vivid examples from her research: a CISO who hired a marketing professional to run the cybersecurity culture program, a CEO who opens every all-hands meeting with a five-minute cybersecurity story, and organizations that use creative rewards like chocolate chip cookies and digital badges to reinforce positive behaviors. She also outlines a five-stage maturity model for cybersecurity culture, from ad hoc efforts all the way to a dynamic culture that self-regulates as new threats like AI-driven vulnerabilities emerge.The conversation also tackles the relationship between organizational culture and cybersecurity culture, the role of group-level accountability, and why consequences matter just as much as rewards. Dr. Pearlson makes the case that cybersecurity should move from being viewed as an infrastructure play to a strategic advantage, one that can attract customers, reduce costs, and build competitive differentiation.For any leader looking to move the needle on security culture, this episode offers a research-backed roadmap and practical steps that anyone can take starting tomorrow.HostSean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/Guest(s)Dr. Keri Pearlson, Senior Lecturer and Principal Research Scientist at MIT Sloan School of Management | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kpearlson/Julie Haney (Co-Host), Computer Scientist and Lead, Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program at National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-haney-037449119/ResourcesLearn more about Dr. Keri Pearlson's research: https://mitsloan.mit.edu/faculty/directory/keri-pearlsonLearn more about the NIST Human-Centered Cybersecurity Program: https://csrc.nist.gov/projects/human-centered-cybersecurityCybersecurity at MIT Sloan (CAMS): https://cams.mit.edu/The Future of Cybersecurity Newsletter | https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7108625890296614912/More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast episodes | https://www.seanmartin.com/redefining-cybersecurity-podcastRedefining CyberSecurity Podcast on YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnYu0psdcllS9aVGdiakVss9u7xgYDKYqKeywordsdr. keri pearlson, julie haney, mit sloan, nist, sean martin, cybersecurity culture, security culture, values attitudes beliefs, cyber resilience, human-centered cybersecurity, security awareness, phishing, cybersecurity maturity model, security behavior, cybersecurity strategy, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of Security Matters, host David Puner sits down with Ariel Pisetzky, chief information officer at CyberArk, for a candid look at the fast‑evolving intersection of AI, cybersecurity, and IT innovation. As organizations race to adopt AI, the fear of missing out is driving rapid decisions—often without enough consideration for identity, security, or long‑term impact.Ariel shares practical insights on what it really takes to secure AI at scale, from combating AI‑enabled phishing attacks to managing agent identities and reducing growing risks in the software supply chain. The conversation explores how leaders can balance innovation with identity‑centric guardrails, understand the economics of AI adoption, and push for the democratization of IT without losing control. Whether you're a CIO, an IT leader, or simply curious about the future of cybersecurity, this episode offers clear, actionable guidance to help you stay ahead in 2026 and beyond.

Rob Hughes — CISO at RSA and Champion of a Passwordless FutureNo Password Required Season 7:  Episode 1 - Rob HughesRob Hughes, the CISO at RSA, has more than 25 years of experience leading security and cloud infrastructure teams. In this episode, he reflects on his unconventional career path, from co-founding the original Geek.com and serving as its Chief Technologist during the early days of the internet, to leading security and systems design at Philips Home Monitoring.Jack Clabby of Carlton Fields, P.A. and Kayley Melton welcome Rob for a wide-ranging conversation on identity, leadership, and the realities of modern cybersecurity. Rob currently leads RSA's Security and Risk Office, overseeing cybersecurity, information security governance, and risk across both RSA's products and corporate environment.Rob explains his dream for a passwordless future. He unpacks why passwords remain one of the largest sources of cyber risk, how real-world incidents and password-spraying attacks have accelerated change, and why phishing-resistant technologies like passkeys may finally be reaching a tipping point.  The episode wraps with the Lifestyle Polygraph, where Rob lightens the conversation with stories about gaming with his kids, underrated horror films, and classic cars.Follow Rob on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-hughes-816067a4/Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to No Password Required01:43 Meet Rob Hughes, CISO at RSA02:05 The Role of a CISO in a Security Company05:09 Transitioning to the CISO Role08:00 The Early Days of Geek.com12:14 Launching a Startup During the Dot Com Boom14:30 The Push for a Passwordless Future18:21 Tipping Point for Passwordless Adoption20:20 Ongoing Learning in Cybersecurity26:09 Managing Stress in High-Pressure Environments33:46 The Lifestyle Polygraph Begins34:15 Career Insights in Cybersecurity36:08 Dream Cars and Personal Preferences39:58 Underrated Horror Films41:19 Creating a Cybersecurity Monster

Across dozens of conversations centered on the CISO experience, one reality keeps surfacing: the role no longer exists to protect systems in isolation. It exists to protect the business itself.Today's CISO operates at the intersection of operational risk, executive decision-making, and organizational trust. The responsibility is not just to identify threats, but to help leadership understand which risks matter, when they matter, and why they deserve attention. This shift changes what success looks like. It also changes how pressure is felt.During the early years of this transition, CISOs carry accountability without authority. They are expected to influence outcomes without always having control over budgets, priorities, or timelines. That tension forces a new skill set to the forefront. Technical knowledge is assumed. The differentiator becomes communication, translation, and relationship-building across the business.As organizations mature, the conversation evolves again. Security stops being framed around individual threats and starts being framed as an operational discipline. CISOs focus on prioritization, tradeoffs, and clarity rather than coverage for everything. This requires judgment more than tooling.The role also becomes deeply human. Fear shows up quietly. Fear of pushing too hard. Fear of slowing the business. Fear of being seen as the blocker. CISOs who succeed do not eliminate that fear. They learn how to manage it while building credibility with executive peers.AI enters the picture not as a replacement, but as a force multiplier. Automation supports scale, but judgment remains human. Security programs increasingly deny by default and permit intentionally, which demands a deep understanding of how the business actually works. That understanding cannot be automated.What emerges is a clearer definition of modern security leadership. The CISO is no longer a gatekeeper. This is a risk advisor, a translator, and a strategist who helps the organization focus its limited resources where they matter most.The role has not become easier. It has become more meaningful.Read the full article: TBA________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecuritySincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE9________Sean Martin is a life-long musician and the host of the Music Evolves Podcast; a career technologist, cybersecurity professional, and host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast; and is also the co-host of the On Location Event Coverage Podcast. These shows are all part of ITSPmagazine—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli, to explore and discuss topics at The Intersection of Technology, Cybersecurity, and Society.™️Would you like Sean to work with you on a topic/series to help you tell your story? Visit his services page to learn more: https://www.seanmartin.com/servicesWant to connect with Sean and Marco On Location at an event or conference near you? See where they will be next: https://www.itspmagazine.com/on-locationTo learn more about Sean, visit his personal website.Keywords: sean martin, marco ciappelli, steve katz, tim brown, jessica robinson, rob allen, rohit ghai, rich seiersen, steven j speer, chris pierson, mark lambert, jim manico, robin bylenga, redefining cybersecurity, cybersecurity podcast, redefining cybersecurity podcast, ciso, risk, leadership, ai, resilience, strategy Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Across 152 conversations this year, a set of recurring patterns kept surfacing, regardless of whether the discussion focused on application security, software supply chain risk, AI systems, or creative work. The industries varied. The roles varied. The challenges did not.One theme rises above the rest: visibility remains the foundation of everything else, yet organizations continue to accept blind spots as normal. Asset inventories are incomplete. Build systems are poorly understood. Dependencies change faster than teams can track them. The issue is not a lack of tools. It is a willingness to tolerate uncertainty because discovery feels hard or disruptive.Another pattern is equally consistent. Integration matters more than novelty. New features, including AI-driven ones, sound compelling until they fail to connect with what teams already rely on. Security programs fracture when tools operate in isolation. Coverage looks strong on paper while gaps quietly expand in practice. When tools fail to integrate into existing environments, they create complexity instead of reducing risk.Security also continues to struggle with how it shows up in daily work. Programs succeed when security is embedded into workflows, automated where possible, and invisible until it matters. They fail when security acts as a gate that arrives after decisions are already made. Teams either adopt security naturally or route around it entirely. There is no neutral middle ground.Context repeatedly separates effective leadership from noise. Risk only becomes meaningful when it is framed in terms of business operations, delivery speed, and real tradeoffs. Leaders who understand how the business actually functions communicate risk clearly and make better decisions under pressure.Finally, creativity remains undervalued in security conversations. Automation should remove repetitive tasks so people can focus on judgment, problem solving, and design. The same mindset that produces elegant guitars, photographs, or products applies directly to building resilient security programs.These five patterns are not independent ideas. Together, they describe a shift toward security that is visible, integrated, contextual, workflow-driven, and human-centered.Read the full article: https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/five-patterns-from-152-podcast-episodes-2025-changed-i-martin-cissp-st1ge________This story represents the results of an interactive collaboration between Human Cognition and Artificial Intelligence.Enjoy, think, share with others, and subscribe to "The Future of Cybersecurity" newsletter on LinkedIn: https://itspm.ag/future-of-cybersecuritySincerely, Sean Martin and TAPE9________Sean Martin is a life-long musician and the host of the Music Evolves Podcast; a career technologist, cybersecurity professional, and host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast; and is also the co-host of the On Location Event Coverage Podcast. These shows are all part of ITSPmagazine—which he co-founded with his good friend Marco Ciappelli, to explore and discuss topics at The Intersection of Technology, Cybersecurity, and Society.™️Would you like Sean to work with you on a topic/series to help you tell your story? Visit his services page to learn more: https://www.seanmartin.com/servicesWant to connect with Sean and Marco On Location at an event or conference near you? See where they will be next: https://www.itspmagazine.com/on-locationTo learn more about Sean, visit his personal website. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This Christmas, strap in for three hours of vulnerabilities, patches, and the occasional existential crisis about holiday skeleton crews. This megacut compiles every 2025 episode of Patch [FIX] Tuesday, featuring Automox security engineers Ryan Braunstein, Henry Smith, Seth Hoyt, Mat Lee, and Tom Bowyer breaking down the year's most critical security updates.What's inside:All 12 Patch [FIX] Tuesday episodes from January through December 2025macOS and Apple security updatesZero-days, CVEs, and actively exploited vulnerabilitiesCandid discussions on Hyper-V escapes, SSH hijacking chains, React RCE, and moreWhether you're catching up on a year of patches or need something smarter than carols for a long holiday drive or late-night remediation – this compilation has you covered.

In this episode, we cover:✅ How Jeremiah went from bootstrapping websites during the dot-com boom to building a global cybersecurity business.✅ Why most cybercrime isn't about “hacking systems,” it's about hacking humans.✅ The emotional tricks scammers use, and how to spot them before you get duped.✅ Real-world stories of cybercrime that cost companies hundreds of thousands of dollars in seconds.✅ The single most important (and shockingly simple) thing you can do to protect yourself today. Jeremiah also shares powerful insights from his keynote, Confessions of a Hacker, including why it's often too late once the money is gone, and how you can take smart, preventative action without expensive software or technical know-how. 

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥Modern application development depends on open source packages moving at extraordinary speed. Paul McCarty, Offensive Security Specialist focused on software supply chain threats, explains why that speed has quietly reshaped risk across development pipelines, developer laptops, and CI environments.JavaScript dominates modern software delivery, and the npm registry has become the largest package ecosystem in the world. Millions of packages, thousands of daily updates, and deeply nested dependency chainsഴ് often exceeding a thousand indirect dependencies per application. That scale creates opportunity, not only for innovation, but for adversaries who understand how developers actually build software.This conversation focuses on a shift that security leaders can no longer ignore. Malicious packages are not exploiting accidental coding errors. They are intentionally engineered to steal credentials, exfiltrate secrets, and compromise environments long before traditional security tools see anything wrong. Attacks increasingly begin on developer machines through social engineering and poisoned repositories, then propagate into CI pipelines where access density and sensitive credentials converge.Paul outlines why many existing security approaches fall short. Vulnerability databases were built for mistakes, not hostile code. AppSec teams are overloaded burning down backlogs. Security operations teams rarely receive meaningful telemetry from build systems. The result is a visibility gap where malicious code can run, disappear, and leave organizations unsure what was touched or stolen.The episode also explores why simple advice like “only use vetted packages” fails in practice. Open source ecosystems move too fast for manual approval models, and internal package repositories often collapse under friction. Meanwhile, attackers exploit maintainer accounts, typosquatting domains, and ecosystem trust to reach billions of downstream installations in a single event.This discussion challenges security leaders to rethink how software supply chain risk is defined, detected, and owned. The problem is no longer theoretical, and it no longer lives only in development teams. It sits at the intersection of intellectual property, identity, and delivery velocity, demanding attention from anyone responsible for protecting modern software-driven organizations.⬥GUEST⬥Paul McCarty, NPM Hacker and Software Supply Chain Researcher  | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mccartypaul/⬥HOST⬥Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥RESOURCES⬥LinkedIn Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/mccartypaul_i-want-to-introduce-you-to-my-latest-project-activity-7396297753196363776-1N-TOpen Source Malware Database: https://opensourcemalware.comOpenSSF Scorecard Project: https://securityscorecards.dev⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

Reinventing Physical Security in a Cyber-Driven World | DailyCyber 282 with Oscar Hedaya ~ Watch Now ~In this episode of DailyCyber, I sit down with Oscar Hedaya, founder and inventor of The Space Safe, the world's first next-generation connected safe designed to bridge the gap between physical security and modern cyber threats.For decades, safes have barely changed. Oscar set out to fix that — by designing a safe that incorporates WiFi, cameras, sensors, real-time event visibility, and a mobile app to bring physical protection into the connected era.But with innovation comes new questions: does adding connectivity make a safe less secure?Do people still need safes in a world that uses less cash?And how do you build trust in a product designed to protect what matters most?This episode is ideal for cybersecurity leaders, product designers, IoT professionals, and anyone interested in the convergence of hardware and cyber risk. 

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥Artificial intelligence is reshaping how public health organizations manage data, interpret trends, and support decision-making. In this episode, Sean Martin talks with Jim St. Clair, Vice President of Public Health Systems at a major public health research institute, Altarum, about what AI adoption really looks like across federal, state, and local agencies.Public health continues to face pressure from shifting budgets, aging infrastructure, and growing expectations around timely reporting. Jim highlights how initiatives launched after the pandemic pushed agencies toward modernized systems, new interoperability standards, and a stronger foundation for automated reporting. Interoperability and data accessibility remain central themes, especially as agencies work to retire manual processes and unify fragmented registries, surveillance systems, and reporting pipelines.AI enters the picture as a multiplier rather than a replacement. Jim outlines practical use cases that public health agencies can act on now, from community health communication tools and emergency response coordination to predictive analytics for population health. These approaches support faster interpretation of data, targeted outreach to communities, and improved visibility into ongoing health activity.At the same time, CISOs and security leaders are navigating a new risk environment as agencies explore generative AI, open models, and multi-agent systems. Sean and Jim discuss the importance of applying disciplined data governance, aligning AI with FedRAMP and state-level controls, and ensuring that any model running inside an organization's environment is treated with the same rigor as traditional systems.The conversation closes with a look at where AI is headed. Jim notes that multi-agent frameworks and smaller, purpose-built models will shape the next wave of public health technology. These systems introduce new opportunities for automation and decision support, but also require thoughtful implementation to ensure trust, reliability, and safety.This episode presents a realistic, forward-looking view of how AI can strengthen the future of public health and the cybersecurity responsibilities that follow.⬥GUEST⬥Jim St. Clair, Vice President, Public Health Systems, Altarum  | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimstclair/⬥HOST⬥Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥RESOURCES⬥N/A⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

Operation Endgame didn't just disrupt a single ransomware group — it shook the entire cybercrime economy. In this episode, we break down how the world's largest coordinated cyber takedown dismantled the loaders, botnets, and access brokers that ransomware groups relied on… and what criminals are building in their place.Cybersecurity expert Tyler Moffitt  unpacks:How Endgame crippled the cyber underground's supply chainWhy ransomware groups are collapsing, splintering, or turning sloppyThe rise of micro-crews, info-stealers, and cloud-session takeoversHow AI is accelerating criminal tacticsWhat defenders must prioritize heading into 2026The threat landscape has changed dramatically — here's what you need to know to stay ahead.Follow or subscribe to the show on your preferred podcast platform.Share the show with others in the cybersecurity world.Get in touch via reimaginingcyber@gmail.com As featured on Million Podcasts' Best 100 Cybersecurity Podcast and Best 70 Chief Information Security Officer CISO Podcasts rankings.

In this episode, Rob Aragao welcomes back cybersecurity expert and author Michael Echols to unpack the urgent realities behind his new book, AI Chaos.Michael explains how AI is rapidly entering operational technology (OT) systems—the infrastructure that runs our power grids, water systems, transportation, satellites, and more. But with this transformation comes a critical problem: leaders don't truly understand where AI is operating, how it behaves, or how to control it.Together, Rob and Michael explore:How AI-driven OT systems are reshaping today's critical infrastructure threat landscapeWhy future failures may not come from hackers—but from AI-enabled automation that organizations can't see or shut offThe hidden vulnerabilities created by interconnected sensors, ML models, and autonomous decision loopsHow organizations should rethink resilience, governance, and risk in an AI-powered worldMichael's AIM Frame maturity model and how leaders can assess their readiness for AI incidentsPractical steps security and technology leaders should take now to map AI usage, increase visibility, and prepare for inevitable model drift or autonomous system failuresIf your organization relies on OT, automation, or AI-driven systems, this conversation is a must-listen wake-up call.Follow or subscribe to the show on your preferred podcast platform.Share the show with others in the cybersecurity world.Get in touch via reimaginingcyber@gmail.com As featured on Million Podcasts' Best 100 Cybersecurity Podcast and Best 70 Chief Information Security Officer CISO Podcasts rankings.

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥Understanding the Startup Engine Behind CybersecurityThis episode brings Sean Martin together with Ross Haleliuk, author, investor, product leader, and creator of Venture Insecurity, for a candid look at the forces shaping cybersecurity startups today. Ross shares how his decade of product leadership and long involvement in the security community give him a unique perspective on what drives founders, what creates market gaps, and why new companies keep entering a space already full of tools.Why Security Produces So Many ProductsRoss explains that the large number of security tools is not evidence of an industry losing control. Instead, it reflects a technology ecosystem where entrepreneurship has become easier and where attackers, not practitioners, define what defenders need. Because threats shift constantly, security leaders must always look for clues on what could fail next. That constant uncertainty fuels innovation.What Motivates FoundersDespite outside assumptions, Ross observes that most founders are motivated by the problems they have lived themselves. Some come from enterprise teams. Others come from military backgrounds. Many find traction with early open source work. Few come into cybersecurity to chase quick wins, and most do not survive long enough to chase profits even if they wanted to.Security as Business EnablementSean and Ross discuss the role of security as a business driver. In regulated sectors, companies invest because they must. In technology companies, strong security is a sales enabler that gives customers confidence to use their products. Outside of tech, the priority is more about resilience and operational continuity.How Buyers Should Think About StartupsRoss outlines the tradeoffs. Startups deliver speed, responsiveness, fresh architecture, and modern user experience. Large vendors provide stability, predictability, and broad coverage. Neither is perfect. Security leaders should decide based on the importance of the capability, the level of influence they want, and the outcomes they need.This conversation highlights the practical realities behind the security products organizations choose and the people who build them. Listeners will hear both the optimism and the honesty that define today's cybersecurity innovation economy.⬥GUEST⬥Ross Haleliuk, Security product leader, author, advisor, board member and investor | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rosshaleliuk/⬥HOST⬥Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥RESOURCES⬥Inspiring Blog: https://ventureinsecurity.net/p/not-every-security-leader-works-at⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

Jim McDonald and Jeff Steadman sit down with Mike Reiring of RSM at InfoSec World 2025 to explore how managed service providers are reshaping IT and identity operations. They dig into the differences between MSPs and MSSPs, how to choose the right partner, and how AI is transforming help desks, problem management, and security monitoring. The conversation closes with a fun dive into Mike's passion for photography and how creativity ties into continuous learning in tech.Connect with Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mreiring/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comChapters00:00 Intro – Live from InfoSec World 202502:00 Meet Mike Reiring of RSM04:30 Evolution of Managed Service Providers06:30 Shared Accounts, Identity, and Security Maturity09:00 Vendor Gaps and Federated Access Challenges11:30 What Makes a Good MSP Partner13:00 The Cost and Effort of Changing Providers16:30 MSP vs MSSP – Key Differences18:30 Coordination Between Managed Providers21:30 Top 3 Questions to Ask Your MSP25:00 Identity Ownership: IT or Security?27:30 Licensing, Active Directory, and Hidden Accounts30:00 RFP Challenges and Procurement Pitfalls32:00 Measuring Risk and Reducing Identity Exposure34:30 Vendor Management and Shadow IT Risks35:00 How AI Is Transforming MSP and MSSP Operations38:30 AI, Problem Management, and the Future of Help Desks42:30 Photography, Creativity, and Continuous Learning48:00 Closing Thoughts and IDAC OutroKeywordsIDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Mike Reiring, RSM, InfoSec World 2025, Managed Service Provider, MSP, MSSP, AI in Cybersecurity, Help Desk, Identity Management, Managed Identity, Partner Transparency, IT Outsourcing, Risk Reduction, Problem Management, Active Directory, DaVinci Resolve, Photography in Tech, Identity Governance, Cybersecurity Podcast

⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥Understanding Beg Bounties and Their Growing ImpactThis episode examines an issue that many organizations have begun to notice, yet often do not know how to interpret. Sean Martin is joined by Casey Ellis, Founder of Bugcrowd and Co-Founder of disclose.io, to break down what a “beg bounty” is, why it is increasing, and how security leaders should think about it in the context of responsible vulnerability handling.Bug Bounty vs. Beg BountyCasey explains the core principles of a traditional bug bounty program. At its core, a bug bounty is a structured engagement in which an organization invites security researchers to identify vulnerabilities and pays rewards based on severity and impact. It is scoped, governed, and linked to an established policy. The process is predictable, defensible, and aligned with responsible disclosure norms.A beg bounty is something entirely different. It occurs when an unsolicited researcher claims to have found a vulnerability and immediately asks whether the organization offers incentives or rewards. In many cases, the claim is vague or unsupported and is often based on automated scanner output rather than meaningful research. Casey notes that these interactions can feel like unsolicited street windshield washing, where the person provides an unrequested service and then asks for payment.Why It Matters for CISOs and Security TeamsSecurity leaders face a difficult challenge. These messages appear serious on the surface, yet most offer no actionable details. Responding to each one triggers incident response workflows, consumes time, and raises unnecessary internal concern. Casey warns that these interactions can create confusion about legality, expectations, and even the risk of extortion.At the same time, ignoring every inbound message is not a realistic long-term strategy. Some communications may contain legitimate findings from well-intentioned researchers who lack guidance. Casey emphasizes the importance of process, clarity, and policy.How Organizations Can PrepareAccording to Casey, the most effective approach is to establish a clear vulnerability disclosure policy. This becomes a lightning rod for inbound security information. By directing researchers to a defined path, organizations reduce noise, set boundaries, and reinforce safe communication practices.The episode highlights the need for community norms, internal readiness, and a shared understanding between researchers and defenders. Casey stresses that good-faith researchers should never introduce payment into the first contact. Organizations should likewise be prepared to distinguish between noise and meaningful security input.This conversation offers valuable context for CISOs, security leaders, and business owners navigating the growing wave of unsolicited bug claims and seeking practical ways to address them.⬥GUEST⬥Casey Ellis, Founder and Advisor at Bugcrowd | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caseyjohnellis/⬥HOST⬥Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥RESOURCES⬥Inspiring Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/caseyjohnellis_im-thinking-we-should-start-charging-bug-activity-7383974061464453120-caEWDisclose.io: https://disclose.io/⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

Tis the season… for cybercrime. In this episode of Reimagining Cyber,  senior security analyst Tyler Moffitt breaks down how cybercriminals exploit the Christmas and holiday season to launch phishing attacks, ransomware, smishing scams, and gift card fraud. From AI-powered fake delivery emails to cloned charity pages, learn how attackers are getting more sophisticated than ever—and what you can do to protect yourself, your business, and your customers during the busiest shopping months of the year.Key Takeaways:Why peak shopping season equals peak cybercrimeThe latest holiday scams targeting retailers and consumersAI, voice cloning, and automated gift card fraudPractical tips to secure accounts, vendor payments, and distribution centersFollow or subscribe to the show on your preferred podcast platform.Share the show with others in the cybersecurity world.Get in touch via reimaginingcyber@gmail.com As featured on Million Podcasts' Best 100 Cybersecurity Podcast and Best 70 Chief Information Security Officer CISO Podcasts rankings.

Your devices may be giving away more than you think. In this episode of Reimagining Cyber,  security expert Tyler Moffitt explores the hidden world of side-channel attacks — where everyday sensors reveal information you never intended to share.From Android apps that can infer your two-factor codes without screenshots, to gaming mice that “hear” speech through micro-vibrations, to Wi-Fi routers that detect motion inside your home, Tyler breaks down the cutting-edge research that blurs the line between science fiction and reality.He unpacks how these attacks work, what's real versus proof-of-concept, and—most importantly—how to stay secure. Expect practical takeaways about permissions, firmware updates, passkeys, and a healthy dose of cybersecurity paranoia.Key Topics:How Android's display timing leaks on-screen secretsWhy gaming mice might act like tiny microphonesThe evolution of Wi-Fi motion sensing from hacker demos to home featuresPractical privacy steps for everyday usersBottom Line:If it hums, blinks, or vibrates—it could be talking.Follow or subscribe to the show on your preferred podcast platform.Share the show with others in the cybersecurity world.Get in touch via reimaginingcyber@gmail.com As featured on Million Podcasts' Best 100 Cybersecurity Podcast and Best 70 Chief Information Security Officer CISO Podcasts rankings.

Most organizations have security champions. Few have a real security culture.In this episode of AppSec Contradictions, Sean Martin explores why AppSec awareness efforts stall, why champion programs struggle to gain traction, and what leaders can do to turn intent into impact.

⬥GUEST⬥Andrew Morgan, Chief Information Security Officer | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewmorgancism/⬥HOST⬥Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥The cybersecurity community has long recognized an uncomfortable truth: the gap between well-resourced enterprises and underfunded organizations keeps widening. This divide isn't just about money; it's about survivability. When a small business, school, or healthcare provider is hit with a major breach, the likelihood of permanent closure is exponentially higher than for a large enterprise.As host of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, I've seen this imbalance repeatedly — and the conversation with Andrew Morgan underscores why it persists and what can be done about it.The Problem: Structural ImbalanceLarge enterprises operate with defined budgets, mature governance, and integrated security operations centers. They can afford redundancy, talent, and tooling. Meanwhile, small and mid-sized organizations are often left with fragmented controls, minimal staff, and reliance on external vendors or managed providers.The result is a “have and have not” world. The “haves” can detect, contain, and recover. The “have nots” often cannot. When they are compromised, the impact isn't just reputational — it can mean financial collapse or service disruption that directly affects communities.The Hidden Costs of ComplexityEven when smaller organizations invest in technology, they often fall into the trap of overtooling without strategy. Multiple, overlapping systems create noise, false confidence, and operational fatigue. Morgan describes this as a symptom of viewing cybersecurity as a subset of IT rather than as a business enabler.Simplification is key. A rationalized platform approach — even if not best-of-breed — can deliver better visibility and sustainability than a patchwork of disconnected tools. The goal should not be perfection; it should be proportionate protection aligned with business risk.The Solution: Culture, Collaboration, and ContinuityCyber resilience starts with people and culture. As Morgan puts it, programs must be driven by culture, informed by risk, and delivered through people, process, and technology. Security can't succeed in isolation from the organization's purpose or its people.The Australian CISO Tribe provides a real-world model for collaboration. Its members share threat intelligence, peer validation, and practical experiences — a living example of collective defense in action. Whether formalized or ad-hoc, these networks give security leaders context, community, and shared strength.Getting Back to BasicsPractical resilience isn't glamorous. It's about getting the basics right — consistent patching, logging, phishing-resistant authentication, verified backups, and tested recovery plans. It's about ensuring that, if everything fails, you can still get back up.When security becomes a business-as-usual practice rather than a project, organizations begin to move from reactive defense to proactive resilience.The TakeawayBridging the cybersecurity divide doesn't require endless budgets. It requires prioritization, simplification, and partnership. The “have nots” may never mirror enterprise scale, but they can adopt enterprise discipline — and that can make all the difference between temporary disruption and permanent failure.⬥RESOURCES⬥Inspiring Post: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/andrewmorgancism_last-night-i-was-fortunate-enough-to-spend-activity-7383972144507994112-V3Zr/⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

⬥GUEST⬥Eric O'Neill, Keynote Speaker, Cybersecurity Expert, Spy Hunter, Bestselling Author. Attorney | On Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-m-oneill/⬥HOST⬥Host: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥In this episode of the Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast, host Sean Martin reconnects with Eric O'Neill, National Security Strategist at NeXasure and former FBI counterintelligence operative. Together, they explore how cybercrime has matured into a global economy—and why organizations of every size must learn to compete, not just defend.O'Neill draws from decades of undercover work and corporate investigation to reveal that cybercriminals now operate like modern businesses: they innovate, specialize, and scale. The difference? Their product is your data. He argues that resilience—not prevention—is the true marker of readiness. Companies can't assume they're too small or too obscure to be targeted. “It's just a matter of numbers,” he says. “At some point, you will get struck. You need to be able to take the punch and keep moving.”The discussion covers the practical realities facing small and midsize businesses: limited budgets, fragmented tools, and misplaced confidence. O'Neill explains why so many organizations over-invest in overlapping technologies while under-investing in strategy. His firm helps clients identify these inefficiencies and replace tool sprawl with coordinated defense.Preparation, O'Neill says, should follow his PAID methodology—Prepare, Assess, Investigate, Decide. The goal is to plan ahead, detect fast, and act decisively. Those that do not prepare spend ten times more responding after an incident than they would have spent preventing it.Martin and O'Neill also examine how storytelling bridges the gap between security teams and executive boards. Using relatable analogies—like house fires and insurance—O'Neill makes cybersecurity human. His message is simple: security is not a technical decision; it's a business one.Listen to hear how the business of cybercrime mirrors legitimate enterprise—and why understanding that truth might be your best defense.⬥RESOURCES⬥Book: Spies, Lies, and Cybercrime by Eric O'Neill – Book linkBook: Gray Day by Eric O'Neill – Book linkFree, Weekly Newsletter: spies-lies-cybercrime.ericoneill.netPodcast: Former FBI Spy Hunter Eric O'Neill Explains How Cybercriminals Use Espionage techniques to Attack Us: https://redefiningsocietyandtechnologypodcast.com/episodes/new-book-spies-lies-and-cyber-crime-former-fbi-spy-hunter-eric-oneill-explains-how-cybercriminals-use-espionage-techniques-to-attack-us-redefining-society-and-technology-podcast-with-marco-ciappelli⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

Organizations pour millions into protecting running applications—yet attackers are targeting the delivery path itself.This episode of AppSec Contradictions reveals why CI/CD and cloud pipelines are becoming the new frontline in cybersecurity.

Today on the Social-Engineer Podcast: The Security Awareness Series, Chris is joined by Carter Zupancich. Chris and Carter explore the evolving landscape of social engineering threats, focusing on the rise of vishing attacks and the role of AI in enhancing these tactics. Their discussion underscores the importance of empowering employees as a human firewall and the need for continuous education and testing to strengthen organizational security. [Oct 20, 2025]   00:00 - Intro 00:31 - Carter Zupancich Intro -          Website: https://carterzupancich.com/ 01:30 - Intro Links: -          Social-Engineer.com - http://www.social-engineer.com/ -          Managed Voice Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/vishing-service/ -          Managed Email Phishing - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/se-phishing-service/ -          Adversarial Simulations - https://www.social-engineer.com/services/social-engineering-penetration-test/ -          Social-Engineer channel on SLACK - https://social-engineering-hq.slack.com/ssb -          CLUTCH - http://www.pro-rock.com/ -          innocentlivesfoundation.org - http://www.innocentlivesfoundation.org/                                                03:35 - Tools, Tactics and Procedures 05:19 - Tech Advances 08:16 - The Classics 10:01 - The Need for Testing 12:16 - Callback Phishing 17:26 - Setting Expectations 21:56 - Approved Language 23:56 - Verify! 25:16 - Empowerment 26:17 - And Now a Horrible Story 28:47 - Investing In Employees 31:19 - Wrap Up & Outro -          www.social-engineer.com -          www.innocentlivesfoundation.org

Guest and HostGuest: Marco Ciappelli, Co-Founder, ITSPmagazine and Studio C60 | Website: https://www.marcociappelli.comHost: Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine, Studio C60, and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast & Music Evolves Podcast | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com/Show NotesIn this candid episode of Music Evolves, Sean Martin and Marco Ciappelli unpack the creative, ethical, and deeply personal tensions surrounding AI-generated music—where it fits, where it falters, and where it crosses the line.Sean opens with a clear position: AI can support the creative process, but its outputs shouldn't be commercialized unless the ingredients—i.e., training data—are ethically sourced and properly licensed. His concern is grounded in authorship and consent. If a model learns from unlicensed tracks, even indirectly, is it sampling without credit?Marco responds by acknowledging how deeply embedded influence is in all creative acts. As a writer and musician, he often discovers melodies or storylines in his own work that echo familiar structures—not out of theft, but because of lived experience. “We are made of what we absorb,” he says, drawing parallels between human memory and how AI models are trained.But the critical difference? Humans feel. They reinterpret. They falter. They declare their intent. AI does none of that—at least, not yet.The discussion isn't anti-technology. Instead, it's about boundaries. Both Sean and Marco agree that tools like neural networks can be fascinating collaborators. But when those tools start to blur authorship or generate perfect replicas of a human's imperfection—say, the crackle of a vinyl or the slide of a finger across a string—what are we really listening to? And who, if anyone, should profit from it?They wrestle with questions of transparency (“Did you write that… or did AI?”), authorship (“If you like it but don't know it's AI, does it matter?”), and commercialization (“Is it still your art if someone else feeds it to a machine?”). And perhaps most importantly, they invite you to answer for yourself.

⬥GUEST⬥Walter Haydock, Founder, StackAware | On Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/walter-haydock/⬥HOST⬥Sean Martin, Co-Founder at ITSPmagazine and Host of Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast | On LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/imsmartin/ | Website: https://www.seanmartin.com⬥EPISODE NOTES⬥No-Code Meets AI: Who's Really in Control?As AI gets embedded deeper into business workflows, a new player has entered the security conversation: no-code automation tools. In this episode of Redefining CyberSecurity, host Sean Martin speaks with Walter Haydock, founder of StackAware, about the emerging risks when AI, automation, and business users collide—often without traditional IT or security oversight.Haydock shares how organizations are increasingly using tools like Zapier and Microsoft Copilot Studio to connect systems, automate tasks, and boost productivity—all without writing a single line of code. While this democratization of development can accelerate innovation, it also introduces serious risks when systems are built and deployed without governance, testing, or visibility.The conversation surfaces critical blind spots. Business users may be automating sensitive workflows involving customer data, proprietary systems, or third-party APIs—without realizing the implications. AI prompts gone wrong can trigger mass emails, delete databases, or unintentionally expose confidential records. Recursion loops, poor authentication, and ambiguous access rights are all too easy to introduce when development moves this fast and loose.Haydock emphasizes that this isn't just a technology issue—it's an organizational one. Companies need to decide: who owns risk when anyone can build and deploy a business process? He encourages a layered approach, including lightweight approval processes, human-in-the-loop checkpoints for sensitive actions, and upfront evaluations of tools for legal compliance and data residency.Security teams, he notes, must resist the urge to block no-code outright. Instead, they should enable safer adoption through clear guidelines, tool allowlists, training, and risk scoring systems. Meanwhile, business leaders must engage early with compliance and risk stakeholders to ensure their productivity gains don't come at the expense of long-term exposure.For organizations embracing AI-powered automation, this episode offers a clear takeaway: treat no-code like production code—because that's exactly what it is.⬥ADDITIONAL INFORMATION⬥✨ More Redefining CyberSecurity Podcast: 

When even the Department of Defense can't properly vet its software dependencies, what chance do the rest of us have? Steve Gibson reveals how "fast-glob" became a case study in supply chain blindness, explores whether AI can ever truly be controlled after Meta's celebrity chatbot disaster, and celebrates BYTE Magazine's 50th anniversary with a look at how far we've come (and how vulnerable we still are). A look back at issue #1 of BYTE magazine exactly 50 years ago The enforcement of the SHAKEN & STIR Telecom protocols Breaking: Judge rules against forced Google divestitures in monopoly case The inherent danger of consolidating authentication Can AI be controlled? Vivaldi says a big "no" to AI-enhanced web browsers How WhatsApp figured into Apple's recent 0-day attacks Leveraging AI as an attack aid The latest TransUnion data breach Two scummy websites sue the UK over age requirements OpenSSH reminds its users to adopt post-quantum crypto The DOD uses open source maintained by a Russian national Much great feedback from our terrific listeners Sci-Fi news from "The Frontiers Saga" Ryk Brown Show Notes - https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-1041-notes.pdf Hosts: Steve Gibson and Leo Laporte Download or subscribe to Security Now at https://twit.tv/shows/security-now. You can submit a question to Security Now at the GRC Feedback Page. For 16kbps versions, transcripts, and notes (including fixes), visit Steve's site: grc.com, also the home of the best disk maintenance and recovery utility ever written Spinrite 6. Join Club TWiT for Ad-Free Podcasts! Support what you love and get ad-free shows, a members-only Discord, and behind-the-scenes access. Join today: https://twit.tv/clubtwit Sponsors: go.acronis.com/twit threatlocker.com/twit bitwarden.com/twit bigid.com/securitynow joindeleteme.com/twit promo code TWIT