Athlete's Grit: From Sports to Life

My guest today is Yip Ren Kai, ex-National Water Polo Vice-Captain and multiple SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur, and Grassroots Contributor. One of the best centreback specialist and all-rounded player I have ever known. I knew Ren Kai since he was a young player and he donned National Colours only after I retired from the sport. But very privileged to have played with him in many other competitions as a teammate and also against him as a competitor. A great leader and highly respected, in and outside of the pool. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Timestamp: 0.30 Renkai introduces himself and his businesses 3.00 2009 was his last SEA Games 4.45 Contributing back to the sports industry 5.30 Was being involved in work that involved sports something he always knew he wanted to do? 7.30 Signing up for the organizing committee for the Youth Olympics Games (YOG) 2010 8.00 Sports brings everyone together 9.00 Reason for retirement 10.00 Stepping aside to let the younger ones take it further 10.30 How do you know that you're at your peak? 11.30 Be a contributor and not a liability 13.00 Setting goals for sport are the same as setting goals for work 14.00 Moving on too next phase of life for the shift in priorities 17.00 Most memorable highs in Water Polo career 21.00 What were the sort of emotions that came out of that? 23.45 Water Polo was the bond and nationalities and medal colour didn't matter 25.25 Making rivals in the pool but becoming buddies outside of it 28.00 Most difficult period in Water Polo 30.55 Lowest points in life in sport happened at the young age of 13 32.45 Bouncing back after 12 months of preparation work 34.30 Visualisation on risk management of multiple scenarios used outside of Water Polo 36.40 How high performance sport has influenced his professional and personal life currently? 37.00 Learning to work with different personalities 38.18 Goalsetting and time management 39.00 Task oriented and setting priorities for maximum productivity 41.20 Complimenting business partner with different skillsets 44.00 What would he tell his younger self --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Yip Ren Kai, ex-National Water Polo Vice-Captain and multiple SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur, and Grassroots Contributor. One of the best centreback specialist and all-rounded player I have ever known. I knew Ren Kai since he was a young player and he donned National Colours only after I retired from the sport. But very privileged to have played with him in many other competitions as a teammate and also against him as a competitor. A great leader and highly respected, in and outside of the pool. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Yip Ren Kai, ex-National Water Polo Vice-Captain and multiple SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur, and Grassroots Contributor. One of the best centreback specialist and all-rounded player I have ever known. I knew Ren Kai since he was a young player and he donned National Colours only after I retired from the sport. But very privileged to have played with him in many other competitions as a teammate and also against him as a competitor. A great leader and highly respected, in and outside of the pool. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Yip Ren Kai, ex-National Water Polo Vice-Captain and multiple SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur, and Grassroots Contributor. One of the best centreback specialist and all-rounded player I have ever known. I knew Ren Kai since he was a young player and he donned National Colours only after I retired from the sport. But very privileged to have played with him in many other competitions as a teammate and also against him as a competitor. A great leader and highly respected, in and outside of the pool. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Yip Ren Kai, ex-National Water Polo Vice-Captain and multiple SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur, and Grassroots Contributor. One of the best centreback specialist and all-rounded player I have ever known. I knew Ren Kai since he was a young player and he donned National Colours only after I retired from the sport. But very privileged to have played with him in many other competitions as a teammate and also against him as a competitor. A great leader and highly respected, in and outside of the pool. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. Timestamp: 0.30 Michelle introduces herself 1.00 How she started with High Jump 3.40 How she progressed to train at a higher level 5.30 Retiring from the sport because of an injury 6.32 What was the difference competing pre and post early retirement? 7.00 Injury with surgery lead to early retirement 8.00 The pain might have been psychological 9.30 Moving away from the label of “Michelle Sng the High Jumper” 10.00 18-months of solo travel and self-discovery 12.15 Being called up for “National Service” 14.54 Lowest moments 15.37 Moving to Kuala Lumpur to train 18.00 Living a different life and Moving On 21.00 Speaking about things helped with the moving on 22.00 Most significant highs 22.45 Emotional journey of going back to the stadium where she first hung up her spikes 24.00 Competition day felt really good physically and mentally and that led to the Gold Medal victory 25.20 Being in the zone and closing that chapter of her life 26.00 To enjoy your journey and not be too fixated the expectation of the outcome 28.40 Setting specific and SMART goals 29.55 How high-performance sport has shaped her professional and personal life 31.45 Sport teaches that not everything is under your control 35.20 Piece advice for youth athletes 36.55 How to identify patience vs knowing when to throw in the towel 38.40 One thing you would tell your younger self --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Michelle Sng, National High Jumper, SEA Games Gold Medalist, Adidas Creator, and Comms Specialist. I first met Michelle at an Adidas Runners Singapore event and again when she was seeking treatment for plantar fasciitis at my red-light therapy wellness studio. Those casual chats would have never revealed the dark periods and troubled times that Michelle underwent as Singapore's number one high jumper, a label that actually worked against her performance and the hanging up of her spikes in 2010. I am thankful for her time as guest on the podcast as she shares the journey of coming full circle, winning a SEA Games Gold Medal, and continuing to represent Singapore since. I hope you enjoy the session as much as I did. Welcoming Michelle Sng. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder, and Corporate Warrior, I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh. Timestamp: 2.30 Charmaine introduces herself 3.30 How she started with Netball 4.50 Won Most Valuable Shooter in the local league 5.20 Always had been her dream to play for Singapore since she started playing Netball 6.25 Why she started her Netball Academy 9.00 How has sport helped her professionally as an auditor and management consulting 10.45 Any challenges at work that were overcomed by skills learnt at high performance sport 13.15 Most significant highs in Netball career 15.00 What was the winning formula in 2015? 17.35 How to replicate the “in the zone” moments? 19.20 What does it mean to “give it your all”? 20.54 Most significant lows 22.30 Dealing with self-doubt and wanting to retire from Netball 26.30 Another setback and bad moment in her Netball career 28.43 It makes a difference to your performance and stress response when the stakes are higher 29.45 Remember the good to have gotten you where you are and not just that one bad moment 30.20 Getting over psychological trauma from sport 31.30 What it means to play, function and support as a team 32.00 What was the turning point for her to climb out of the cycle of doubt? 36.00 Don't think so much, just shoot the ball and get it over and done with 38.30 Finding the middle ground between being cautious and overtly cautious 39.05 Piece of advice for young netballers --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder and Corporate Warrior. I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh.

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder and Corporate Warrior. I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh.

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder and Corporate Warrior. I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh.

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder and Corporate Warrior. I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh.

My guest today is Charmaine Soh, Singapore Netball Captain & Shooter, Netball Academy Founder and Corporate Warrior. I have known Charmaine for many years now, but I never knew that behind that bubbly Netball shooter and skipper, lay dark periods of self-doubt and an episode of possible premature retirement. With more than a decade representing Singapore in Netball and the last five years in leadership, Charmaine has hundreds of international caps and is literally THE face of Singapore Netball. Enjoy Charmaine's candid and very cheerful personality through this episode and hear how she puts believe into action and pushes through failures and setback in the team sport of Netball and applies these values to her professional life. Welcoming Charmaine Soh.

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfil his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. Timestamp: 3.00 Sidney introduces himself 6.00 Tough times playing rugby in secondary school with no achievements 7.30 Looking at playing rugby at a higher level after junior college 8.00 Took it upon himself to go for trials even though was not called up 9.15 Fueled by desire to play more and to play for Singapore 10.40 Made is to the under 19 Singapore team at 17 years old 12.10 Eye opening experience with first international experience 13.22 National exam and National Service was a break from rugby 15.45 Playing club level rugby from post-army university and drafted into the National team 19.10 Broke his leg during a game 22.15 Extent of injury 23.45 Fell into a depressive state of loss and reflection 26.40 Being optimistic about the injury recovery period to prepare for the 2015 SEA Games 29.30 The road to recovery entering a new work environment as well 32.20 Resigned to the fact that he would not make the team but stayed on to support the team 34.45 Set goal to play in the 2017 SEA Games 37.00 Tore MCL on the “good” leg 39.00 Played well in competition and knee held up 40.10 Devastated because was told that he would not make the 2017 SEA Games team 42.00 Training camp overseas despite not making the team 44.00 Suddenly got called up to fly in to join the team in Malaysia 48.00 Finished with a silver medal and happy ending 49.00 Multiple rejections 50.10 Having a goal made that defining difference 53.00 Discipline in a team sport helped spread the load and responsibility 54.00 Growth mindset which allows the mind to explore possibilities being endless despite challenges and setbacks --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfill his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfill his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfill his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfill his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Sidney Kumar, former Singapore Rugby Player, Educator, Coach, Husband, Father and Podcast Host. Even though we've known each other a short time and I am 7 years older, the fact that he plays a team sport and that we share the same alma mater, makes everything so much more relatable. Sidney shares how not one knee injury but 2 knee severe injuries left him almost not being able to fulfill his dream of representing Singapore at the SEA Games. An excellent narration of his life in the sport of Rugby and how this has not just shaped him as a player, but also as a teacher, coach, father and husband. Welcoming Sidney Kumar. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Joscelin Yeo, Olympian, former National Swimmer, former Nominated Member of Parliament, Mother, and Sports Administrator. I have known Joscelin's brother since secondary school days when we were playing water polo as rival in different schools, but I never really had a chance to get to meet and know Joscelin on a personal level. But I believe that it's never too late for things to happen, and in fact this podcast interview could not have happened at a better time. Joscelin talks about how sport is a lifestyle choice and not a sacrifice; the ability to understand one's internal drive to push pass the most physical, emotional and psychologically difficult times; and about growth and how community is key to making that happen. Welcoming Joscelin Yeo. 0.05 Joscelin introduces himself 1.50 How she handled a full-time intense routine all 17 years she was swimming for Singapore 2.40 The golden girl of the 1980s 3.00 Journey of pushing pass the many times of giving up 3.30 Growth came from having to juggle so much at a time 6.00 Desire from within and fire in your belly 6.20 Her first retirement at 12 years old 8.55 Go out there and enjoy what you're doing 9.10 How a coach helped her change her mindset 9.50 Dealing with media was a key resilience building exercise 11.00 Swimming is a one-shot-one-kill sport 11.54 How to get into the right mindset pre-race? 14.18 Learning to deal with unplanned things on the spot 15.00 Prep work is all done way before the competition 16.15 How should parents motivate their children in high performance sport? 17.17 How a parent can help their children push through a difficult period of wanting to give up to build resilience? 18.58 Is a child doing the sport because they enjoy it or because that's what the parent enforces? 19.18 Internal drive to have longevity in sport 20.00 What was her internal drive? 20.38 You have to enjoy what you're doing. From the training to the racing. And having different motivations at different life stages. 21.26 Progression builds confidence 22.09 She was a student of the sport 22.40 Sport helped her also apply skills to school work 26.00 Most significant sporting high 28.30 Most significant sporting low 32.29 Everything she planned and trained for could not happen due to unforeseen externalities 33.17 The need to re-evaluate why she was swimming and what for 35.14 Trying for the next Olympics with the transition of graduating from college to finding work and being a semi-pro athlete 37.52 Retiring after the 2006 Asian Games 38.25 Having the self-awareness to know that she didn't have the internal drive to keep at the same intensity to give 110% 40.39 How she decided to move on because she knew that her internal drive would not take her for another 2 years to the next Olympics 41.30 Being an athlete is not about sacrificing something else for sport but its about choosing one lifestyle over another 44.15 Most enjoyable phase of 17 years in high performance swimming 45.40 How even though swimming is an individual sport, she leant more about teamwork when training in the US 46.00 Learning the culture and power of competing with each other and not against one another 48.00 How she has taken this skill and applying it as an Exco with the Singapore Swimming Association 50.20 Have fun, go out there and enjoy yourself and don't be too concerned about what others think about you --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Joscelin Yeo, Olympian, former National Swimmer, former Nominated Member of Parliament, Mother, and Sports Administrator. I have known Joscelin's brother since secondary school days when we were in the water polo pool playing against each other as rivals, but I never really had a chance to get to meet Joscelin and speak to her about her life. But I believe that it's never too late for things to happen, and in fact this podcast interview could not have happened at a better time. Joscelin talks about how sport is a lifestyle choice and not a sacrifice; the ability to understand one's internal drive to push pass the most physical, emotional and psychological difficult times; and about growth and how community is key to making that happen. Welcoming Joscelin Yeo. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Joscelin Yeo, Olympian, former National Swimmer, former Nominated Member of Parliament, Mother, and Sports Administrator. I have known Joscelin's brother since secondary school days when we were in the water polo pool playing against each other as rivals, but I never really had a chance to get to meet Joscelin and speak to her about her life. But I believe that it's never too late for things to happen, and in fact this podcast interview could not have happened at a better time. Joscelin talks about how sport is a lifestyle choice and not a sacrifice; the ability to understand one's internal drive to push pass the most physical, emotional and psychological difficult times; and about growth and how community is key to making that happen. Welcoming Joscelin Yeo. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Joscelin Yeo, Olympian, former National Swimmer, former Nominated Member of Parliament, Mother, and Sports Administrator. I have known Joscelin's brother since secondary school days when we were in the water polo pool playing against each other as rivals, but I never really had a chance to get to meet Joscelin and speak to her about her life. But I believe that it's never too late for things to happen, and in fact this podcast interview could not have happened at a better time. Joscelin talks about how sport is a lifestyle choice and not a sacrifice; the ability to understand one's internal drive to push pass the most physical, emotional and psychological difficult times; and about growth and how community is key to making that happen. Welcoming Joscelin Yeo. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Joscelin Yeo, Olympian, former National Swimmer, former Nominated Member of Parliament, Mother, and Sports Administrator. I have known Joscelin's brother since secondary school days when we were in the water polo pool playing against each other as rivals, but I never really had a chance to get to meet Joscelin and speak to her about her life. But I believe that it's never too late for things to happen, and in fact this podcast interview could not have happened at a better time. Joscelin talks about how sport is a lifestyle choice and not a sacrifice; the ability to understand one's internal drive to push pass the most physical, emotional and psychological difficult times; and about growth and how community is key to making that happen. Welcoming Joscelin Yeo. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Lim Tong Hai, former Singapore Football Team Captain, Educator, Coach, and Coach Developer. I first got to know Tong Hai in 2008 when he was a lecturer at the Institute of Technical Institution (ITE) College East, and my school's water polo team was renting the pool inside the campus for training sessions. And even more opportunity for interaction in 2011 when he enrolled his daughter in my school, Temasek Junior College, where she was directly under my charge representing the swimming team. This episode is slightly longer because we need time and space as Tong Hai shared his worse sporting moment, and very openingly tells us about the two own goals he put in at the 1993 SEA Games when Singapore was playing in the football semi-finals. This resulted in the team not progressing to the finals, despite having been favourites to win the championship on home ground. Tong Hai talks about self-blame, guilt, humiliation, public shame and hate, and how even today that memory still haunts him. Listen as he opens up on the acts and display of resilience and mental toughness for him to not quit, walk with his head held high, skipper the team five years later in 1998, and now contributing to character building and values education for coach development in Singapore. Timestamp: 3.40 Tong Hai introduces himself 5.10 Been involved in multiple team sports since a young age 6.57 Coaching and development for SportSG 8.48 Progression from being a professional footballer into an administrator role 9.40 Equipping with necessary skills to stay relevant to prepare for life after football 11.15 Sharing significant highs from 10-year professional football career 13.49 What was he feeling and what was going on in his mind… when he put in that first and then second goal and how he coped? 18.30 Dealing with the guilt that many hopes and dreams were dashed because of the errors 22.30 Support from family, teammates and team officials 24.15 So many other life lessons from this experience – being receptive and non-judgmental to come to conclusions 25.20 Build resilience and belief of your own self-worth, and your conscience is clear 26.30 True hardship shows who your real friends are 28.45 Have always wanted to do something to atone for the bad that he had done towards the team and Singapore 30.45 It takes time for anyone to come out of an error and setback. It is progressive. 33.25 Regaining the trust of the team, team officials, the public and himself 37.10 Teaching others to put themselves in others shoes for mistakes that are made and how we can learn from failures 38.55 Tips on how someone can come out of a failure and mistake resulting in a lot of guilt 39.55 Accept the responsibility and be positive to move forward 41.00 Understanding what you can control and what you cannot control 40.30 Sports is also about teaching values 42.40 Learning humility through the battles of wins and losses through football 43.30 Translation into work, life and interaction with colleagues, and guides parenting decisions 44.15 Retirement 46.15 Sport has taught him to be reflective 46.55 Being a role model when you are a coach and in a leadership position 46.46 If you fail to plan, you plan to fail 49.40 What is the legacy he's always wanted to leave 53.32 Nothing ventured nothing gained 54.25 Looking within yourself and being self-reflective first before coming together with the team 55.14 How camaraderie and kinship is built on trust 55.44 How having post-mortems in sports directly translates into how we lead our professional and personal lives --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Lim Tong Hai, former Singapore Football Team Captain, Educator, Coach, and Coach Developer. I first got to know Tong Hai in 2008 when he was a lecturer at the Institute of Technical Institution (ITE) College East, and my school's water polo team was renting the pool inside the campus for training sessions. And even more opportunity for interaction in 2011 when he enrolled his daughter in my school, Temasek Junior College, where she was directly under my charge representing the swimming team. This episode is slightly longer because we need time and space as Tong Hai shared his worse sporting moment, and very openingly tells us about the two own goals he put in at the 1993 SEA Games when Singapore was playing in the football semi-finals. This resulted in the team not progressing to the finals, despite having been favourites to win the championship on home ground. Tong Hai talks about self-blame, guilt, humiliation, public shame and hate, and how even today that memory still haunts him. Listen as he opens up on the acts and display of resilience and mental toughness for him to not quit, walk with his head held high, skipper the team five years later in 1998, and now contributing to character building and values education for coach development in Singapore. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is May Ooi, Olympian, Former ONE Championship MMA fighter, Speaker and Business Owner. Extremely valuable lessons learnt with May talking about what she went through as an Olympic Swimmer and taking a decade off before training and competing as a professional MMA fighter. Hearing that values and skills trained in sport - consistency, processes, patience, embracing failure, and the “never quit” attitude, are all reflections of life. A very powerful session where she also shares about championing women's leadership in sports organisations. Timestamp: 2.20 Since she retirement from high performance swimming 4.00 Why she came back to Singapore after 16 years abroad 5.43 The 10-year gap between retiring from high performance swimming to competing in MMA 6.35 How was the transition into another sport competing at the highest level 7.30 Specific skillsets honed and trained as a high performance swimmer that allowed for the easy transition into combat sports 7.45 Following consistency and processes are key to the success from one sport to another and to life as well 8.10 You cannot hurry the process 8.17 Being able to stay on long enough to experience the positive changes, significant improvements and eventual breakthrough 8.40 You need patience to live through the bad days and frustrations 9.50 Understanding how long to stay long enough before deciding to move on to the next adventure or next stage of life 11.00 What are you willing to give up to achieve your goals you've set for yourself 11.34 Translation of skills acquired from sport to professional and personal life 11.45 Sport and martial arts is a reflection of life 12.23 Constant growth all throughout her career as a high performance athlete with new skills and with experience and maturity be able to link different skillsets 13.15 Not done growing and still learning 13.25 Athletes have an advantage 14.00 Think, act or make a decision a certain way because of having been a high performance athlete 14.58 You can do and have everything perfect and still not win16.00 Understanding that there's only so much you can do within your power 17.30 Overcoming the pandemic with a similar mindset 19.25 Seeing the good in the bad 20.45 Stopped having “low points” when it came to competition to have that professional mindset and move on 21.10 Overcoming a bad race in 1993 and coming back with strategic thinking 23.09 Swim each race even though its not perfect 24.00 Mindset is key to be able to turn things around 24.36 To build resilience, you need to “shock” the system 26.50 Learn, evolve, and adapt, to not shortcut the process 28.40 Setting a deadline to achieve a goal and if it doesn't happen, move on 29.35 Retirement after the 2018 Asian Games 29.52 Best highs from high performance career 30.52 Continuing to be challenging herself with learning new martial arts skills 32.00 What would she say to her younger self? 32.33 No matter how devastating the losses there will be other opportunity, but you must be able to stay in the game 34.00 Being an advocate for women to be able to make an impact in leadership roles within sports organisations 36.43 Experiences and professionalism are important to be able to put oneself in a position of authority to influence and impact 37.00 Constantly learning, even to be a team manager and administrator/official 39.00 Even successful people who seemed to have all the best going are also struggling and learning daily 39.39 Takeaways --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is May Ooi, Olympian, Former ONE Championship MMA fighter, Speaker and Business Owner. Extremely valuable lessons learnt with May talking about what she went through as an Olympic Swimmer and taking a decade off before training and competing as a professional MMA fighter. Hearing that values and skills trained in sport - consistency, processes, patience, embracing failure, and the “never quit” attitude, are all reflections of life. A very powerful session where she also shares about championing women's leadership in sports organisations. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is May Ooi, Olympian, Former ONE Championship MMA fighter, Speaker and Business Owner. Extremely valuable lessons learnt with May talking about what she went through as an Olympic Swimmer and taking a decade off before training and competing as a professional MMA fighter. Hearing that values and skills trained in sport - consistency, processes, patience, embracing failure, and the “never quit” attitude, are all reflections of life. A very powerful session where she also shares about championing women's leadership in sports organisations. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is May Ooi, Olympian, Former ONE Championship MMA fighter, Speaker and Business Owner. Extremely valuable lessons learnt with May talking about what she went through as an Olympic Swimmer and taking a decade off before training and competing as a professional MMA fighter. Hearing that values and skills trained in sport - consistency, processes, patience, embracing failure, and the “never quit” attitude, are all reflections of life. A very powerful session where she also shares about championing women's leadership in sports organisations. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is May Ooi, Olympian, Former ONE Championship MMA fighter, Speaker and Business Owner. Extremely valuable lessons learnt with May talking about what she went through as an Olympic Swimmer and taking a decade off before training and competing as a professional MMA fighter. Hearing that values and skills trained in sport - consistency, processes, patience, embracing failure, and the “never quit” attitude, are all reflections of life. A very powerful session where she also shares about championing women's leadership in sports organisations. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Desmond Koh, Olympian, Sustainability and Innovation Lead, Compassionate Capitalist and Private Banker. My first interactions with Desmond were in 1998 when we were both representing Singapore at the Asian Games. It was my debut international competition and from this podcast interview, I understood from Desmond that it was actually his last competition before retiring as a high performance swimmer. Desmond talks about self-compassion to give time to heal; understanding that man is not infallible; learning to work within the limited resources available; and sharing that if he could tell his younger self something, it would be to be less self-focused and to invest more in the people around him to make friends and build relationships. Timestamp: 3.18 Retirement from swimming in 1998 at age 26 3.30 Felt the physical limitations and also a new life-stage starting in banking 4.50 Living a life as authentic to myself as possible in all areas of his life 8.25 Swimming in the past with adrenaline and anxiety versus swimming today for flow and meditation 10.00 To be able to optimize life the best he can with daily recovery techniques which includes swimming 10.55 What he has carried with him from high performance swimming days till today 11.57 Debut at the 1987 SEA Games 12.07 You cannot always be at the top of your game 13.30 Lesson learnt at that young age with perceived failure and whether or not to give up or push on 13.55 Not afraid to try and mindset of setbacks being part of the learning journey 16.00 You have to know what you want and what your objectives/goals are and sticking to them 18.00 Listening to cassette tapes for visualization 19.00 Highest moments in high performance swimming career 20.30 Qualifying for the Olympics at 15 years old 23.14 Having been a high-performance athlete played a big part in him getting his first job 24.18 Dealing with all the failures builds character and resilience 24.43 To be a high-performance athlete there is a lot of strategy and smart implementation involved 25.03 More than 50% of performance at work attributed to training as a high-performance athlete 25.25 Hearing about his biggest failure and handling reaching a plateau as an athlete 27.00 Going to the 1998 Olympics with euphoria and anxiety 27.28 Not being mentally ready for his Olympic 400m Individual Medley event 28.17 Being disqualified for the race despite breaking the National record 30.45 Injuries affect the mental psyche a lot emotionally and psychologically to the lows 31.45 Another mistake at another international competition 33.05 Coping strategies to come out of a cycle of negativity to hustle out to see the light at the end of the tunnel 35.42 The ability to feel and have that self-awareness 36.25 Nutrition is important to fuel your body with what you think and know your physical self needs to function well and perform 37.00 Taking time to calm himself and ensuring that he is in a state that is not frazzled 37.43 Having the right tribe around me to manage myself emotionally 39.45 Bouncing back doesn't mean that you've healed from the trauma or failure 41.05 Recognise that you are infallible and that you have limits in resources 42.00 Learning to allocate these limited resources (like time) 45.00 To be less self-focused and self-centered by investing more time in the people around him in his younger days and building relationships 46.35 His wellbeing and happiness today correlates to the tribe and people around him 47.00 Takeaways --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Desmond Koh, Olympian, Sustainability and Innovation Lead, Compassionate Capitalist and Private Banker. My first interactions with Desmond were in 1998 when we were both representing Singapore at the Asian Games. It was my debut international competition and from this podcast interview, I understood from Desmond that it was actually his last competition before retiring as a high performance swimmer. Desmond talks about self-compassion to give time to heal; understanding that man is not infallible; learning to work within the limited resources available; and sharing that if he could tell his younger self something, it would be to be less self-focused and to invest more in the people around him to make friends and build relationships. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Desmond Koh, Olympian, Sustainability and Innovation Lead, Compassionate Capitalist and Private Banker. My first interactions with Desmond were in 1998 when we were both representing Singapore at the Asian Games. It was my debut international competition and from this podcast interview, I understood from Desmond that it was actually his last competition before retiring as a high performance swimmer. Desmond talks about self-compassion to give time to heal; understanding that man is not infallible; learning to work within the limited resources available; and sharing that if he could tell his younger self something, it would be to be less self-focused and to invest more in the people around him to make friends and build relationships. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Desmond Koh, Olympian, Sustainability and Innovation Lead, Compassionate Capitalist and Private Banker. My first interactions with Desmond were in 1998 when we were both representing Singapore at the Asian Games. It was my debut international competition and from this podcast interview, I understood from Desmond that it was actually his last competition before retiring as a high performance swimmer. Desmond talks about self-compassion to give time to heal; understanding that man is not infallible; learning to work within the limited resources available; and sharing that if he could tell his younger self something, it would be to be less self-focused and to invest more in the people around him to make friends and build relationships. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

My guest today is Judith Sim, Former National Climber, 3x Bronze Medalist at the SEA Games 2011, National Speed Champion in 2016 and 2018, Educator and PE Teacher. Judith shares the difference between competing in a team sport and individual sport. She also talks about being in the state of flow in sports, and experiencing first-hand what she learnt in theory in Sports Psychology. Judith shares her strategies on preparing for being in the state of flow; strategies on coping with stress and anxiety on competition day; and adopting a growth mindset to overcoming her lowest moments. 2.50 Playing netball in secondary school and junior college 2.58 Picked up climbing in university 3.10 Picked up triathlon in 2018 3.25 Currently a PE Teacher at Victoria Junior College 3.40 Been a teacher for just over 6 years 3.25 How she was introduced to climbing 4.10 Being athletic to begin with as a netballer gave her the advantage to progress more easily 5.58 Core skills that make a good climber 6.10 Number 1 speed climber in Singapore 6.25 Having good body awareness just like in dance 6.52 Timeline of accelerated progress as a climber 7.28 Training hard and identifying quickly what skills were needed to be good at the sport 7.50 How vigorous the training is for climbing 9.20 The differences and similarities between climbing and netball 9.51 Ability to express herself more in climbing 10.00 Having more initiative and taking charge of training and her own performance in an individual sport 10.10 A team sport has many more factors that are not within your control 10.25 Learning to let go of things she is not in control of 10.40 How has sport has influenced the way she leads her life 10.55 Learning to be confident about herself 11.10 Knowing her capabilities and value 11.50 Share good experiences with students and to guide them 12.05 Guiding high-performance youth athletes in school 12.25 Main struggles of high-performance youth athletes 13.05 Prioritising, scheduling, recovery, motivation levels and injury prevention 13.50 Memorable moments in high-performance sport 14.40 Mental state was at its optimum 15.16 Getting into the state of flow 15.30 What work goes in to achieve that state of flow? 15.55 Visualisation 16.25 Competition format 17.55 Dealing with the stress from competition 18.32 Self-talk during the competition 18.55 Breathwork to calm down 19.10 Combining breathwork with visualization 20.00 Describing the state of flow 20.35 Creating the environment for optimum performance 21.00 When you're in the state of flow everything seems effortless 21.10 The magic happens when you're in the flow 21.30 Capturing the flow on video 21.50 Difficult to compare flow from sports to professional work 22.59 Momentum from getting things done at work 23.12 Experiencing flow at work 23.45 Low moments and struggles 24.55 Strategies coming out of low moments 26.10 Reasons for retirement from high-performance climbing 27.20 Admiration for those who can juggle work with training and competiting in high-performance sports 27.50 Other skills, values of traits from high-performance sports that have translated into life 28.10 Taking pride in wanting to be good at everything she does 29.27 Having the growth mindset to be successful 29.40 Advise for younger self 29.55 Don't stop training 30.10 Coming out of the lows means growth --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Climber, 3x Bronze Medalist at the SEA Games 2011, National Speed Champion 2016 and 2018, Educator and PE Teacher. Judith was my ex-student in 2007, when I was still teaching PE at Temasek Junior College. In fact, Judith was from one of the first batches of sports student leaders I mentored since my teaching career started in 2005. I am extremely proud of her success and achievements and I hope that it was partly my influence in her younger days that helped Judith choose the path she did and helped fuel her passion for participation in high performance sports. Judith shares the difference between competing in a team sport and individual sport. She also talks about being in the state of flow in sports, and experiencing first hand what she learnt in theory in Sports Psychology. Judith shares her strategies on preparing for being in the state of flow; strategies on coping with stress and anxiety on competition day; and adopting a growth mindset to overcoming her lowest moments. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Climber, 3x Bronze Medalist at the SEA Games 2011, National Speed Champion 2016 and 2018, Educator and PE Teacher. Judith was my ex-student in 2007, when I was still teaching PE at Temasek Junior College. In fact, Judith was from one of the first batches of sports student leaders I mentored since my teaching career started in 2005. I am extremely proud of her success and achievements and I hope that it was partly my influence in her younger days that helped Judith choose the path she did and helped fuel her passion for participation in high performance sports. Judith shares the difference between competing in a team sport and individual sport. She also talks about being in the state of flow in sports, and experiencing first hand what she learnt in theory in Sports Psychology. Judith shares her strategies on preparing for being in the state of flow; strategies on coping with stress and anxiety on competition day; and adopting a growth mindset to overcoming her lowest moments. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Climber, 3x Bronze Medalist at the SEA Games 2011, National Speed Champion 2016 and 2018, Educator and PE Teacher. Judith was my ex-student in 2007, when I was still teaching PE at Temasek Junior College. In fact, Judith was from one of the first batches of sports student leaders I mentored since my teaching career started in 2005. I am extremely proud of her success and achievements and I hope that it was partly my influence in her younger days that helped Judith choose the path she did and helped fuel her passion for participation in high performance sports. Judith shares the difference between competing in a team sport and individual sport. She also talks about being in the state of flow in sports, and experiencing first hand what she learnt in theory in Sports Psychology. Judith shares her strategies on preparing for being in the state of flow; strategies on coping with stress and anxiety on competition day; and adopting a growth mindset to overcoming her lowest moments. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Climber, 3x Bronze Medalist at the SEA Games 2011, National Speed Champion 2016 and 2018, Educator and PE Teacher. Judith was my ex-student in 2007, when I was still teaching PE at Temasek Junior College. In fact, Judith was from one of the first batches of sports student leaders I mentored since my teaching career started in 2005. I am extremely proud of her success and achievements and I hope that it was partly my influence in her younger days that helped Judith choose the path she did and helped fuel her passion for participation in high performance sports. Judith shares the difference between competing in a team sport and individual sport. She also talks about being in the state of flow in sports, and experiencing first hand what she learnt in theory in Sports Psychology. Judith shares her strategies on preparing for being in the state of flow; strategies on coping with stress and anxiety on competition day; and adopting a growth mindset to overcoming her lowest moments. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Boxer, 2x SEA Games Representative, Boxing Trainer, and Entrepreneur. Leona was my ex-boxing trainer and running buddy. In this episode, Leona talks about what having a dry spell of wins, and consecutive losses in her boxing career meant to her. She also shares how she learnt from each experience and bounced back from each loss to become smarter, wittier and more resilient. These skills trained in boxing have inevitably translated into her professional life as an entrepreneur in the events space, and now also a one-on-one boxing personal trainer. Timestamp: 2.40 Introduction 3.30 Running own events company 4.55 Entry into the sport 10.20 Getting back on track with life with Boxing 10.42 Left events job to upgrade skills 11.14 First International Debut 14.00 Started training for SEA Games 2015 14.10 Training with the boys 14.45 Realising that there is a large gap to be closed on an international standing 15.30 Goal setting 15.50 Don't be scared 17.00 Just go do it mindset 17.50 Don't try never know 18.15 Comparing to being in the ring to performing a business pitch 19.15 Role models 20.10 Most significant moment - Getting to fight her boxing idol 20.35 What she did to remind herself about being a female boxer 21.15 Other significant moments training in Indonesia 22.40 Appreciating the facilities in Singapore 23.00 The takeaways from boxing 23.30 Boxing as a hobby vs boxing as the only way up and out 24.05 Grateful for the opportunities she has 24.45 Sport is a do or die situation for athletes in other countries 25.20 Losing for 1 year straight and wanting to give up 26.00 The feeling of having prepared and trained so hard and yet losing by half a point 26.15 Heartache and self-doubt 26.30 Advise for bouncing back from failure 27.10 Being adaptable and dealing with uncertainty 27.50 Being nimble 28.15 Dealing with the minor losses 29.20 Being physically conditioned and mentally ready 30.00 Discipline from sports to life 30.30 Focus and prioritizing what is important 31.30 Boxing kept her focused on the necessary even until today 32.17 Time is a commodity and time is energy 33.15 Pivoting to PT with the pandemic 33.45 Adopting the Just do it mindset 34.12 Being reminder of her own form and technique 34.45 Have heart and invest time 35.35 Goals for respective businesses 36.54 Intrinsic value from PT work 38.00 What would she tell your younger self 38.21 Don't be afraid to step into the ring and dream big 38.45 Find a mentor 39.42 Never stop learning 40.00 Takeaways --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Boxer, 2x SEA Games Representative, Boxing Trainer, and Entrepreneur. Leona was my ex-boxing trainer and running buddy. In this episode, Leona talks about what having a dry spell of wins, and consecutive losses in her boxing career meant to her. She also shares how she learnt from each experience and bounced back from each loss to become smarter, wittier and more resilient. These skills trained in boxing have inevitably translated into her professional life as an entrepreneur in the events space, and now also a one-on-one boxing personal trainer. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Boxer, 2x SEA Games Representative, Boxing Trainer, and Entrepreneur. Leona was my ex-boxing trainer and running buddy. In this episode, Leona talks about what having a dry spell of wins, and consecutive losses in her boxing career meant to her. She also shares how she learnt from each experience and bounced back from each loss to become smarter, wittier and more resilient. These skills trained in boxing have inevitably translated into her professional life as an entrepreneur in the events space, and now also a one-on-one boxing personal trainer. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Boxer, 2x SEA Games Representative, Boxing Trainer, and Entrepreneur. Leona was my ex-boxing trainer and running buddy. In this episode, Leona talks about what having a dry spell of wins, and consecutive losses in her boxing career meant to her. She also shares how she learnt from each experience and bounced back from each loss to become smarter, wittier and more resilient. These skills trained in boxing have inevitably translated into her professional life as an entrepreneur in the events space, and now also a one-on-one boxing personal trainer. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Boxer, 2x SEA Games Representative, Boxing Trainer, and Entrepreneur. Leona was my ex-boxing trainer and running buddy. In this episode, Leona talks about what having a dry spell of wins, and consecutive losses in her boxing career meant to her. She also shares how she learnt from each experience and bounced back from each loss to become smarter, wittier and more resilient. These skills trained in boxing have inevitably translated into her professional life as an entrepreneur in the events space, and now also a one-on-one boxing personal trainer. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message

Former National Water Polo Player, 4x SEA Games Gold Medalist, Entrepreneur and Managing Director of his own agency Splash Productions. Jerome Lau is an ex-teammate of mine, drinking buddy, and dear friend. Hear from Jerome as he talks about the tremendous pressure every Water Polo player faced from having to maintain the then undefeated SEA Games Gold medal; the important support he received from his parents and how this has shaped his parenting style with his son who now also plays the sport; and how water polo has given him important skills to build and lead his team as an entrepreneur. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/athletesgrit/message