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10,000 HOURS is an interview series about craft, creativity and putting in our time. In his book Outliers, Malcolm Gladwell examined and popularized the theory that any given skill takes ten thousand hours to master. How accurate is that? More importantly, if there’s any truth to the theory, how d…

Grant Spanier & Vince Koci


    • Feb 12, 2018 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 1h 3m AVG DURATION
    • 138 EPISODES


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    138 Year in Review with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2018 57:06


    Grant and Vince take a look back at the sometimes-tumultuous, sometimes-triumphant year of 2017 as they sit down together for a discussion about “review.” The Season Four finale is all about evaluation, and how we frame our own work, and criticism, when viewed through the looking glass of the past.

    137 Lens with Corey C. Waters

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2018 66:45


    Corey C. Waters, cinematographer, director, and half of filmmaking duo DAD®, joins Grant and Vince in to talk about a subject near the to heart, and the eye: lenses. Corey, and partner Grant, investigate the many different points of view it takes to spearhead a creative project, especially within the framework of their newest venture. This episode is sponsored by Parabo Press (offer code HOURS for free square prints AND free shipping!).

    136 Truth with Stephen Coss

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2017 53:31


    Stephen Coss, author of The Fever of 1721, is a non-fiction weaver-of-tales that joins Grant and Vince to talk about a hot, and ever-evolving, topic in the 21st century: truth. As Stephen reflects on his first book and researches for his next, he offers interesting insights in how and when to color the facts, tell it how it is, and use the truth to create a compelling story. This episode is sponsored by Simplecast.

    135 Chaos with Francois Chartrand

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2017 53:08


    Francois Chartrand, product designer at Headspace — the world’s leading meditation application — knows a thing or two about mindfulness in creativity. He joins the show to start a conversation about intentionality, balance, and perhaps the opposite state of both: chaos. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace.

    134 Overlap with Sean McCabe

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2017 58:16


    Sean McCabe joins the show to talk about the subject of his new book: starting an enterprise while maintaining a steady job. Sean is the founder of the Seanwes brand, and educates about entrepreneurial creativity through his writing, podcasting, and much more. In this episode, he talks about what it means to be deliberate in your decision making.

    133 Talent with Stephanie Ciccarelli

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2017 55:42


    Stephanie Ciccarelli, CBO and founder of national-leading voice talent aggregator Voices.com, joins Grant and Vince to have a candid conversation about talent. Responsible for connecting thousands of talented individuals to creative work, Stephanie has no shortage on insight about how to find, and grow, talent. This episode is sponsored by Simplecast.

    132 Unapologetic with Puno

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 17, 2017 54:51


    Jennifer Puno, AKA Puno Dostres, AKA Puno hops on the line with Grant and Vince for a conversation about never having to say you’re sorry. As self-proclaimed “slashie” that forays professionally into everything surrounding art and programming, Puno brings a confident and unique attitude to her ventures that might best be called unapologetic. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace.

    131 Holistic with John Sonmez

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 10, 2017 57:34


    John Sonmez joins Grant and Vince from San Diego to chat about how to approach creative projects, and life, from the top down. John is the creator of The Simple Programmer, a blog that originally served programmers with advice, but has bloomed into something much more comprehensive. Now, John’s outlook covers a much broader scope, and he talks about it in a conversation about being holistic. This episode is sponsored by Simplecast.

    130 Stage with William Close

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 26, 2017 65:58


    William Close, the man behind the musical phenomenon known as The Earth Harp Collective, joins the show to talk about his strange and beautiful confluence of architecture, stagecraft and music. On the topic of ‘stage,’ William describes the opportunities, feelings and challenges he faces playing one of the world’s most unique instruments. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace.

    129 Edge with Jason Dhir

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 19, 2017 70:45


    Jason Dhir joins 10,000 HOURS to share his thoughts, be they controversial or insightful, on pushing limits, creatively or otherwise. CEO of Ultra Human and organizer of extravagant events, Jason shares his perspective on what it means to move past “the edge.”

    128 Scaling with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 12, 2017 76:51


    Grant and Vince are back for a hostful talking about the process of growing, expanding, and leveling-up our efforts, and all the challenges that come with it. In a conversation about “scale” our hosts reflect on the scaling process 10,000 HOURS went through to get where it is today. This episode is sponsored by Simplecast.

    127 Honey with Sara Leimbach

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2017 67:12


    Sara Leimbach drops in from LA and she, Grant and Vince chat about the art of the side-project. A narrative director and producer by day, Sara sheds some light on what she calls “side honey,” or, the restorative, super-sweet secondary attractions that refuel our creative efforts. This episode is sponsored by Adobe’s #creativejam event series.

    126 Restarting with Joshua Redshaw

    Play Episode Listen Later May 22, 2017 73:03


    Joshua Redshaw joins the show from Portland to chat about the art of the “restart.” An entrepreneur and creative strategist, Joshua knows a thing or two about transitioning and rolling with punches, and shares his insights about everything from diversifying creative projects to divorce. This episode is sponsored by Death to Stock.

    125 Building with Eva Goicochea

    Play Episode Listen Later May 15, 2017 71:07


    Eva Goicochea joins Grant and Vince from New York to talk about what it takes to build, and grow, a brand. Eva is a creative strategist and entrepreneur that helped launch both Tinker Watches and Maude. She lends her insight about the core elements that go into making a brand great.

    124 Direction with Ace Norton

    Play Episode Listen Later May 1, 2017 58:17


    Grant and Vince talk with prolific director and filmmaker Ace Norton — director of over 80 films across music video, fashion, commercial and art platforms. Ace calls in from Venice, California to chat about the nuances of his medium, and all the challenges and opportunities that arise when you take on the role of providing “direction.”

    123 Represent with Alex Rybarczyk

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 10, 2017 65:07


    Grant and Vince are on the line with Alex Rybarczyk, a surging Minneapolis photographer and designer, currently spearheading the Immigrant Portrait Project. Alex shares her thoughts about what it means to lend people a voice, tell someone’s story, and empower creativity in a discussion about how we “represent.”

    122 The Future with Jamey Erickson

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 2, 2017 64:43


    Grant and Vince chat with designer, creative entrepreneur, and self-proclaimed “semi-proficient space nerd,” Jamey Erickson. Jamey is the founder of Minneapolis-based digital agency Lunar, and has recently kicked-off a kickstarter campaign for Launch Ladies — a children’s book about influential women in space history. The trio talks about ‘The Future,’ and discusses how to use creative talent to influence the world around you. This episode is sponsored by Simplecast.

    121 Message with Maurice Cherry

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 27, 2017 57:10


    Grant and Vince are on the horn with Maurice Cherry, the designer, entrepreneur, and creative mind behind Lunch creative studio. Maurice shares his insight about the importance messaging and audience, from the perspective of host of the podcast Revision Path, a showcase for other black designers. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace.

    120 The Leap with Michael Youngblood & Jon Kalan

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 20, 2017 57:26


    Grant and Vince chat with Michael Youngblood and Jon Kalan, the entrepreneurs behind the destination co-working retreat project Unsettled. The foursome appropriately talk about risk taking and going all-in, following Unsettled’s story from theory, to inception, to taking “the leap.” This episode is sponsored by Ultra Human (use offer code 10000HOURS).

    119 Navigation with Chris Fritton

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 13, 2017 64:46


    Grant and Vince catch Chris Fritton — The Itinerant Printer — on a brief break from his years-long mission to collaborate with North America’s analogue printing community. The trio chat about navigation, both in terms of the logistical challenges of large-scale projects, as well as the more nuanced experiences of exploring craft, culture and process. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace (use offer code '10000HOURS').

    118 History with Glenjamn

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 6, 2017 67:57


    Grant and Vince sit down for a chat with videographer, photographer, and self-proclaimed music-moment chronologist Glen Han, AKA Glenjamn. Glenjamn gives a candid account of his personal experience recording behind-the-scenes moments in modern music, and shares his thoughts on what it means to see history happen.

    117 Impact with Wes Kao

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 27, 2017 61:44


    Grant and Vince are welcome their first guest of season 4, the ever-motivating Wes Kao. Wes is a denizen of the tech start-up world, and currently serves as director for Seth Godin’s altMBA program. She joins the show to talk about the result of our creative pursuits: impact, and the way our projects can spread influence in unexpected ways.

    116 Momentum with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 20, 2017 74:07


    Grant and Vince are back in the studio to kick off Season 4. With Grant freshly settled in Los Angeles, your hosts return to talk about a very topical topic—momentum. Whether you’re building it, guiding it, or simply keeping up speed as a project matures over time, the process is inevitably delicate. This episode is sponsored by Squarespace. Use the offer code "10000HOURS" for 10% off.

    115 Best of Season 3

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 2, 2017 69:08


    Grant and Vince wrap up season 3 of the podcast by recounting some of their favorite moments of the past season — a season that featured guests from all over the world talking about their craft, creativity, and “putting in their time.”

    114 Flow with Sean O'Connor

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 19, 2016 69:12


    Grant and Vince are chatting with writer and marketer Sean O’Connor, currently of Barnes and Noble Education employ. Sean talks about his personal approach to creativity and his career, and breaks ground on the concept of “flow” and how it can change the way we look at productivity and perception.

    113 Intersections with Derek Friday

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 14, 2016 50:26


    Grant and Vince are on the line with architectural and experiential designer Derek Friday founder of Finndustry, and craftsman of many different genres. Joining us from beautiful Boulder, CO, Derek talks about career and medium in a conversation all about creative intersections and how novel combinations make better art.

    112 Growing up with Jennifer & Amy Hood

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 7, 2016 60:18


    Grant and Vince catch up with former guests and longtime friends of the show Jennifer and Amy Hood. The hyper-talented twin-sister designers behind the Orange County-based Hoodzpah, the group takes a trip down memory lane, looking back on the last two years and all that’s changed, talking about perspective and change in a conversation about growing up.

    111 Your lane with Danielle Evans

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 31, 2016 67:08


    Grant and Vince chat with Danielle Evans, hyper talented food and dimensional typographer, and proprietor of Marmalade Bleue. Danielle gives great insight on what’s involved in having mastery over a niche medium, and talks about the value of “finding your lane” when it comes to creative pursuit.

    110 Happy with Meg Lewis

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2016 64:01


    Grant and Vince have the pleasure of chatting with Meg Lewis, talented designed and founder of Ghostly Ferns creative collective. Meg opens up about her personal approach to art, the role of joy in work, and what “happy” means as an aesthetic and a way of life.

    109 DIY with Eric Gorvin

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2016 69:27


    Grant and Vince are on the line with artist and graphic designer, and close friend, Eric Gorvin. Currently of GIRL Skateboard Co. acclaim, Eric joins the show to chat about his personal style and story of craftsmanship, and what it means to take a DIY approach to life and creation.

    108 Listen with Tina Essmaker

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2016 64:52


    Grant and Vince chat with the brilliant Tina Essmaker, creator and creative leader of The Great Discontent. Tina illuminates a conversation about listening, revealing how she became the interviewer she is today, and speaking on how difficult it can be to listen the right way in a culture trending toward strong opinion.

    107 Echolocation with David Sherry

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2016 69:16


    Grant and Vince have the pleasure of sitting down with close friend, and founder and CEO of Death to Stock, David Sherry. Reprising his season one appearance, Sherry chats about finding common ground and getting on the same page, in a conversation about Echolocation.

    106 Translation with Dan Madsen

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2016 70:23


    Grant and Vince sit down studio-side with Dan Madsen, proprietor of, and artistic maestro behind, Minneapolis' own Dusty Signs. Madsen talks about his journey as a third-generation sign-painter, and the sometimes tricky process of translation—be it in ideas, markets or mediums.

    105 Iteration with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 29, 2016 82:57


    Grant and Vince are going hostful with a topic that has fittingly been in the works a long time: iteration. How and when do we find out if our work is ready for the real world? Your hosts talk about what makes a draft a draft, and when to you let go and allow your work to be realized as complete.

    104 Sharpening with Abbey Ryan

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 22, 2016 69:50


    Grant and Vince are on the line with painter and artistic mentor, Abbey Ryan. Almost a decade into her painting-a-day series, Ryan offers her poignant thoughts about the evolution and growth of an artistic pursuit, and how time, practice and passion can lead to a sharpening of both your technical skills, and deeper understanding.

    103 Belonging with Wesley Verhoeve

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 15, 2016 66:29


    Grant and Vince chat with New York’s imminently entertaining photographer, writer and director, Wesley Verhoeve. On the heels of the first season of his series One of Many, Wesley joins to talk about community, connection, and the sense of belonging that artists have to their work and each other.

    102 Endurance with Danny Ripka

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 8, 2016 71:57


    Grant and Vince are in the studio with Danny Ripka, uncle to our own host, Grant, and ultramarathon runner. The trio is talking about endurance, not only in the world of running, but through the lens of Danny’s decades of sobriety in the face of addiction.

    101 Method with Mitch Goldstein

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 1, 2016 56:57


    Grant and Vince are on the line with designer, educator, and host of the Through Process podcast Mitch Goldstein, currently teaching design at the Rochester Institute of Technology. The trio is chatting nuts and bolts of the creative process in a conversation about process, systems and method.

    100 Life's work with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 25, 2016 84:17


    Grant and Vince celebrate their 100th episode with a reflective and introspective discussion about a long-term understanding of an artist’s work. How do we define ourselves, our art, and the greater context in which it all resides. Your hosts are talking about life’s work, and all the subtle and sensational things that go into defining it.

    99 Cream with Jason Sondhi

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 18, 2016 72:23


    Grant and Vince are on the line with Jason Sondhi, the man formerly behind Vimeo Staff Picks and currently proprietor of Short of the Week. The team is talking “cream,” as in, “of the crop,” and the value of tastemaking, curation, and an intimate-yet-flexible understanding of what constitutes quality.

    98 Empathy with Sean Dunne

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 11, 2016 63:04


    Grant and Vince chat with director and filmmaker Sean Dunne, respected documentarian and portrayer of all things human, about the ever-important topic of empathy. In a discussion about creative responsibility, the nature or art, and the human psyche, the trio tries to uncover what it really means to put yourself in another pair of shoes.

    97 Spheres with Adam Lehman

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 27, 2016 71:56


    Grant and Vince sit down to chat with Adam Lehman, creative strategist and co-founder of The Wonder Jam, for a conversation about “spheres.” Where does the personal intersect the professional, and when is the overlap of business and pleasure a creative boon, and when is it a barrier to success.

    96 Structure with Shaun Singh

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 20, 2016 59:56


    Grant and Vince are on the line with financial guru and creative business mind Shaun Singh, of Change and Death to Stock acclaim. Shaun is bringing creativity and artistry to the world of start-up financial leadership, and lends his unique perspective to a conversation about structure.

    95 Letting go with Su Na

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 6, 2016 65:59


    Grant and Vince are in studio with the very awesome and always generous Su Na (AKA Alec Ness). Su Na is a musician, electronic artist and producer who is also a prolific educator, and he joins the show to discuss the value of “letting go” creatively, and when to hold on.

    94 Authenticity with Claire de Lune

    Play Episode Listen Later May 30, 2016 71:02


    Grant and Vince sit down in studio with singer, songwriter and integral member of Minneapolis dream-pop group Tiny Deaths. On the heels of their latest release (night flowers EP), Claire joins the show to talk about authenticity and self-honesty within the creative craft.

    93 Canvas with Whitney Vermeer

    Play Episode Listen Later May 23, 2016 61:08


    Grant and Vince sit down in studio with entrepreneur and hair artist Whitney Vermeer. Creator and proprietor of The Aesthetic x Whitney Vermeer, she joins the cast to discuss the unique nature of her creative medium, along with its challenges, preconceptions, and distinct artistic demands in a conversation about “canvas.”

    92 Thrive with Grant & Vince

    Play Episode Listen Later May 16, 2016 63:33


    Grant and Vince are keeping it hostful this week with a discussion about mindset, philosophy and adversity. Your hosts are looking at what it takes, creatively and mentally, to not only survive challenges and setbacks, but to thrive despite, or because, of them, and grow in the process.

    91 Major league with Brace Hemmelgarn

    Play Episode Listen Later May 9, 2016 49:11


    Grant and Vince step up to the plate with an in-studio conversation with official photographer for the Minnesota Twins, Brace Hemmelgarn. The trio talk specialization, mastery, and excelling within constraints, investigating what it takes to take your craft to the proverbial “Major League.”

    90 Hard Work with Michael Cina

    Play Episode Listen Later May 2, 2016 49:26


    Grant and Vince have the rare opportunity to sit down on the guest’s home turf, talking with famed designer and artist Michael Cina in his working studio in Minneapolis. The trio discuss hard work, working hard, and the proverbial “grind” in an effort to uncover the essence of motivation.

    89 Short list with Stuart Hooper

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 11, 2016 68:40


    Grant and Vince are joined all the way from tropical Panama by none other that Stuart Hooper. Photographer, filmographer, and proprietor of Asombro Media, he’s a friend and collaborator of former guest Lalita Ballesteros. We talk, fittingly, about relationship management, and the importance of keeping a “short list.”

    88 Hacking with Jon Nastor

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2016 62:48


    Grant and Vince pry open the conversation about a popular buzzword in a sit-down with author, podcaster and entrepreneur Jon Nastor. Through the lens of Nastor’s recently published Hack the Entrepreneur, the trio talk about “hacking,” and how to bring value and meaning to the popular term.

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