Coder vs CDI

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An exploration of CDI and ICD 10 challenges combined with a general discussion of popular health care topics.

Allen Frady and Amy Czahor

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    • Nov 16, 2022 LATEST EPISODE
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    CvC Rewind - Allen talks coding clinics and answers questions from around the interwebs!

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2022 31:47


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think - but nobody wants to say out loud.Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC Rewind - Allen Talks physician engagement

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 8, 2022 15:29


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think - but nobody wants to say out loud.Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC - How do you hire good a good CDI? Clinical tests? Shadowing? Consult the bones? Kyle and Allen discuss.

    Play Episode Play 50 sec Highlight Listen Later Nov 5, 2022 64:37 Transcription Available


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think - but nobody wants to say out loud.Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC mediums - In the sea of CCs, sometimes, missing the forest for the trees is your recipe to succeed

    Play Episode Play 17 sec Highlight Listen Later Nov 4, 2022 29:46 Transcription Available


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think - but nobody wants to say out loud.Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC Mediumish - Kyle and Allen play overrated/underrated with a variety of CDI topics

    Play Episode Play 58 sec Highlight Listen Later Nov 1, 2022 33:44


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think - but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC - Is pulmonary insufficiency an insufficient diagnosis?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 29, 2022 49:00


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small.Support the showFollow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CvC Mediums - Kyle and Allen talk heart failure and how the new brief affects clin val queries

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2022 26:25


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small.Show Notes: 1 d. All multiple choice query answer options should only include clinicallyrelevant options (meaning those options that are supported by theclinical indicators within the health record) and exclude clinicallyirrelevant options (e.g., sodium level is 122 and a query is sent todetermine if a diagnosis can be provided; hypernatremia would not bean appropriate answer option) And....(pg 5)  II. Diagnosis answer options that are not already documented in the health record must be supported by clinical indicators sourced from the medical record. These clinical indicators must be included within the query and (pg 6) V. Queries must be accompanied by clinical indicator(s)/evidence that:a. Are specific to the patient and episode of careb. Support a more complete or accurate diagnosis or procedure and (pg 7) III. Template elements should allow for inclusion of relevant clinical indicator(s) and evidence to support the query. Clinical indicators should include a citation of the location found within the health record. and (pg 7) IV. Template answer option(s) should include:a. Only offer multiple choice answer options that are clinically crediblei. Remove answer options that are not clinically credible or relevant and (pg 14) All queries must meetthe same compliant standards regardless of how or when they are generated,including those autogenerated by artificial intelligence (AI) and computer-assistedcoding (CAC), whether in real-time computer-assisted physician documentation(CAPD) or after the episode of care is complete.Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website- Support the show

    CVC Shorts - Allen quizzes Kyle on neuro pathology & it gets salty

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2022 27:37 Transcription Available


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show

    CvC - Do we really NEED the UHDDS for non-affecting DRG codes???

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2022 50:03 Transcription Available


    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show

    CvC - TLDR; Our final comments on the ACDIS/AHIMA 2022 query practice brief

    Play Episode Play 39 sec Highlight Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 39:09 Transcription Available


    Our final, and maybe more coherent, comments on the new query brief.We published the comments we will be sending to ACDIS/AHIMA on our Linkedin page.Find the ACDIS document herePublic comment period is open until 10/25. Comment herePC Tip Card on Malnutrition Here Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Support the show Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show

    2022 Query Practice Brief: CvC SPECIAL EDITION - Allen & Kyle react to the new query brief...unedited.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2022 115:45


    The new compliant query brief has arrived! Find the document herePublic comment period is open until 10/25. Comment hereIn a few days, we will publicly post our comments for you to review and use what you wish.*Edit from the Intro and first few minutes.   Clinical validation does apply to coders...but the coders usually require SPECIAL training to do it well.   We were both right but we skip over all the context as we were rushing through the brief.    Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Follow us! - Linkedin - Twitter - Website Support the show

    CvC Podcast - Is word indexing leading to inappropriate codes? Acidosis? Salt, fat and heat.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2022 59:44 Transcription Available


    Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.References from the show: Brundage TipMost Current Stat Pearl on Lactic AcidosisAllen's article from 2019Remer Article on acidosis from 2020Elevated Lactate without AcidosisFollow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show

    CvC Shorts - Inside the pod. To err is human, to forgive is...?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2022 8:25 Transcription Available


    Don't forget to use the #Allensaysthedarndestthings hashtag to tell us when we've made a mistake or you disagree with us in some way, no matter how small. Coder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- Website Support the show

    CvC discussions - Should we even code asymptomatic hyponatremia???

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 27:23 Transcription Available


    This episode terminology:Hypo- Low.   Na - Sodium .  Emia - presence in blood.Hyponatremia: Low sodium presence in bloodPseudo-False.  Hypo- Low.   Na - Sodium .  Emia - presence in blood.Pseudohyponatremia: False low sodium presence in blood.--Often happens when sodium is artificially driven from the extra-cellular space into the intracellular  space.----Extra-Outside.  Cellular-pertaining  to cells:  Extracellular : Outside the cell----Intra-Inside.  Cellular-pertaining to cells:  Intracellular: Inside the cellLinks to things discussed:- JAMA Podcast- Diagnosis and management of hyponatremia- Urea for treatment of hyponatremia- Central Pontine MyelinolysisCoder vs. CDI is the industry's first talk show format podcast focused on bringing you interesting and new perspectives on clinical and coding topics. Regularly you'll hear the voices of Allen Frady, Amy Czahor, and Kyle Boyd discussing things that we all think but nobody wants to say out loud. Make sure you listen to our Saturday episodes when Dr. Stark, Physician Advisor Extraordinaire, will answer YOUR questions on clinical and coding topics -  You can submit your questions here.Follow us!- Linkedin- Twitter- WebsiteBuzzsprout — Easiest Way to Start a PodcastStart podcasting today. It's the easiest way to start, grow, and monetize your podcast.Brand Support the show

    CvC - Leyna Belcher educates us on productivity and why your program data is useless without a certain type of person...

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 1, 2022 57:11


    ACDIS report (pg.4 productivity)State of the industry webinarHit a CDI Roadblock? Maybe Your Success Metrics Need a Tune-UpMoving Beyond the Standard Markers for Success (slides) (webinar)Implementing an Effective CDI ProgramClinical Documentation Integrity Key Performance Indicators Practice BriefClinical Documentation Integrity – Success in Written Policies and ProceduresBuzzsprout — Easiest Way to Start a PodcastStart podcasting today. It's the easiest way to start, grow, and monetize your podcast. Support the show

    Acute Blood Loss Anemia: Do you even validate?

    Play Episode Play 36 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 29, 2022 18:47


    Speed Run - Following coding rules but still getting denials? NCDs/LCDs, Payer contracts with "medical necessity edits" etc. Metabolic syndrome and a new segment about through leadership. Shout out to Dr. Kennedy.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 20:09


    Edits:  "Use additional code" is a sequencing rule.     Code also just means you might want both codes usually "if appropriate".  Support the show

    Allen & Kyle wax philosophical on the meaning of...Sepsis - Oh and blame CDI for everything

    Play Episode Play 28 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 24, 2022 57:24


    CvC Mediums. Commentary Episode: Allen and Amy C react to ACDIS state of the Industry Charts.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2022 37:46


    Edit:  2x Queries a day times $3,000 a query equals $15,000  *(Even if you only win half of them).   Or...sports math.  Open To ItWe are your playthings. Give us an activity, and we'll do it. Listen on: Apple Podcasts Spotify Support the show

    Speed Run - Thoughts on AKI. Allen goes negative for a moment on how CDI defines conditions.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 17:11


    Peds content. Jeff Morris talks RSV, SDOH, Resp Failure and AKI with the Coder vs CDI staff

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 17, 2022 73:52


    RSV (Respiratory syncytial virus)IncidenceLiterature on the use of the rsv codesMore literature and incidenceVery interesting study quality management vs. surveillance with ICD10Other Peds diagnosesDocumentation and Coding for the AHRQ Pediatric Quality IndicatorsBrundage group peds ARFInteresting paper on pediatric AKI incidence Support the show

    Speed run CDI Week Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2022 18:57


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    Short: Promo

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2022 5:48


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    Speed Run CDI Week Part 1. CDI Strategy Review

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 16:13


    Acquired Thrombophilia. What is everyone saying about this issue?

    Play Episode Play 60 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 10, 2022 67:17


    Link to coding clinicInteresting studiesParadoxical Procoagulant Effect of Early Doses of Warfarin: Possible Role of Non-Vitamin K Oral Anticoagulant in Patients with Atrial Fibrillation-Related StrokeInitiation of warfarin in patients with atrial fibrillation: early effects on ischaemic strokes | European Heart Journal | Oxford AcademicWarfarin-induced deep vein thrombosis - PMCPinson&Tang infoCoagulation Disorders: Primary and Secondary Hypercoagulable StatesCoagulation Disorders PPTOptum's OpinionDocumenting atrial fibrillation and secondary hypercoagulable stateHIA's OpinionCoding Tip: Hypercoagulable States Support the show

    CDI Speed Run, Hot Takes. Reacting to CDI news Less than 20 minutes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2022 15:26


    Hepatic Encephalopathy: New code is a non-starter with Dr. Kennedy. Plus we talk CMI and probably make people mad.

    Play Episode Play 55 sec Highlight Listen Later Sep 2, 2022 59:08


    New white paper from ACDIS regarding Case Mix IndexLink to white paperHepatic Encephalopathy code discussion with Dr. KennedyNew codes in Final Rule 2023 (Dementia, SDOH, Hepatic Encephalopathy) Support the show

    Complications, Hemolytic Uremic Syndrome, DRG changes for Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and more!

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 18, 2022 63:12


    One show note:  The statement "Nutritional marasmus was the default code for unspecified severe nutritional marasmus SHOULD be ....  was the default code for unspecified severe malnutrition".   Most of you probably knew what i meant. :)  Support the show

    Guideline 19 and Clinical Validation Take 3! Let's look at some language in denial letters.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 26, 2022 52:56


    Guideline 19 and Clinical Validation Part II. The exceptions???

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 21, 2022 44:50


    "If there is conflicting medical record documentation, query the provider." Guideline 19 has a new twist. Are you ready for October 1st?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 14, 2022 68:21


    Dr. Kennedy and Boyd run the table on Encephalopathy. Confused yet?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2022 67:08


    ATN: Greatly under reported and inappropriately denied with Dr. Chris Stark and Kyle Boyd

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2022 42:50


    The OIG spot lights Medicare Advantage for Inappropriate Denials with Sean M. Weiss: “The Compliance Guy”)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2022 43:41


    What is an agree? New codes and Grouper version April 1 and what does your cookie taste like?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 4, 2022 66:17


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    Elevating Newborn DRGs. The case of DRG 794 and the broken MSDRG system for peds

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2022 27:11


    An evening with Brian Murphy. Thank you, Farewell but not Goodbye.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2022 67:51


    Season 3 Episode 1. The history of ACDIS, the committees, the briefs, the future and what's next? Support the show

    New Years with Special Guest Dr. Richard Pinson. We talk past and future, the pocket guide and discuss the sky falling with new edits for unspecified codes.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 1, 2022 36:03


    The mystery event.... No Rib fracture for you! CPR induced rib fractures = "Other" complications.

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2021 28:13


    Quick Takes: ACDIS Conference recap + an HCC compliance rabbit hole

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 15, 2021 27:21


    Hot Takes: AHA Coding Handbook. Is it official Advice?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2021 10:22


    Part 2 of 2. We talk cardiac injury with Dr. Kennedy

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2021 36:15


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    Microalbuminuria and Diabetes...An automatic Index to E11.29 (ckd) and E11.59 (vascular)...or IS IT?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2021 17:06


    We had a relaxing chat with ACDIS Director Laurie Prescott with no plan, and we ended up talking about SDOH and the upcoming conference.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 15, 2021 58:24


    Part 1 of 2 parts: Sepsis with Dr. Kennedy.

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 7, 2021 47:51


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    Dr. Limjoco Joins us to talk clinical validation and the evolving need for better physician training in documentation

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2021 47:04


    We talked about AI and data with Dr. Terrance Govender of ClinIntell

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2021 54:32


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    We brought Brian Cui...the original medical coding geek on the show and then quickly started falling down rabbit holes

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 10, 2021 81:16


    Dr. Kopec, Infectious Disease Specialists and Physician Advisor for CDI talks Covid19, Gm-negative pneumonia and urinary colonization

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2021 71:47


    We bash consultants (and defend them)

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 26, 2021 74:30


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    Coder Vs CDI Gag Reel

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 20, 2021 4:04


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