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Subscribe Now Business school? What’s that? Join Rebecca & Rebecca owners of Same Same Studio, in conversations about their experiences going from freelancing to running an agency with employees in the span of one year. Want honest tea from the inside of running a creative business? Then you have come to the right place.

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    #90 Pride Month: Rainbow Washing, Inclusivity, Ethical Marketing

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2025 39:25


    Happy Pride Month! This is a more serious episode where we discuss the implications of rainbow washing and what companies really need to be doing to support the LGBTQIA+ community.

    #89 Pricing: 4 Reasons Why You Should Not Bill By The Hour Anymore

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 9, 2025 8:00


    In this short snippet from our course Creative Business Essentials, I highlight four reasons why you should not be using hourly-based pricing for you creative services.Get our full course

    #88 May Review: Management, ChatGPT, Outsourcing Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 2, 2025 32:32


    In this episode we talk about what is was like for Rebecca R to hold down the fort while Rebecca B was away on holiday. Can ChatGPT replace us? Listen to find out!

    #87 DE: Selbstständigkeit in Österreich, SVS, Finanzamt

    Play Episode Listen Later May 26, 2025 29:55


    In this episode we speak IN GERMAN about what it's like being self-employed in Austria. We discuss what we think are the most important things to think about before starting a business here. SPOILER: don't do it lol.

    #86 From Employment To Self-Employment, Building A New Kind Of Agency - With Slavko Pejić

    Play Episode Listen Later May 19, 2025 53:55


    Slavko Pejić founded mama said no, an independent, creative-led advertising agency. He joined us on the podcast to talk about his experiences going from being employed to self-employment, and what's next for his agency. WebsiteInstagram

    #85 April Review: A New Podcast Era, Interviewing Guests, Taking Time Off

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 27:22


    It's been an interesting month for us in regards to the podcast. We had THREE people come on as guests. In this episode we share our experience as well as what else we were up to in April.

    #84 Differences Between Selling Creative Services And Physical Products - With Sebastian Gansrigler

    Play Episode Listen Later May 5, 2025 50:00


    Sebastian Gansrigler is a designer, photographer and founder of Softcover – a shop in Vienna that handpicks indie magazines, art books, photo books and small editions. It is the first and only shop in Vienna to focus on independent publishing and topics like photography, graphic design, art and culture. We invited Sebastian onto our podcast to talk about his journey going from being a freelancer offering creative services, to opening a physical store selling physical products.WebsiteInstagram

    #83 Balancing Creativity, Personal Projects and Client Management - With Marietta Bernal

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 28, 2025 45:44


    Marietta Bernal is an illustrator and 3D artist with an upbeat aesthetic. She creates engaging characters, objects, and situations, blending the everyday with the surreal. We invited her on our podcast to talk about her work and business.Follow Marietta's Work:WebsiteInstagram

    #82 New Network For Creatives: Join Our Discord Community!

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 21, 2025 17:57


    We are starting a network built on transparency! Our discord will be a place for self-employed creatives to exchange tips, resources, referrals, a place to vent, a place to feel connected when you are often all alone in running your business. Join now

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    #81 Pricing: Why We Don't Do Anything Under 15k Anymore

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 14, 2025 34:48


    In this episode we talk about why it makes sense to have a minimum project rate and how changing our pricing strategy led to a healthier work life balance. Not everyone will have the same minimum project rate, and tbh ours might even change after posting this podcast lol.

    #80 March Review: Big News For The Podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 7, 2025 23:51


    We are beginning a new era soon and March was all about the planning for what's to come here at Never Went To Business School podcast.

    #79 You Don't Need To Be The Best To Make Money

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 31, 2025 37:34


    That actual creative work you do is not always the deciding factor when it comes to being successful. Running a business requires skill in just that. You can be an average designer, but a great business person and you will have more success than a "better designer".

    #78 February Update: Content Creation, Building Our Audience

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2025 24:42


    It's been a while sorry! We have been BUSY mostly on YouTube. In this episode we talk about what we were up to in February and how it compares to the start of the year.

    #77 Getting Fired, And Firing Clients

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 3, 2025 31:07


    We were recently fired by a client, and it wasn't the first time it has happened to us. Sometimes a business relationship is not compatible, requirements change or the client simply decides they want to work with someone else. And you know what? Thats OK. We have fired our fare share of clients over the years as well. In this episode we talk about our experiences with getting fired and firing.

    #76 Underbidding And Overdelivering: Don't Do It

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2025 28:00


    Ever proposed a really cheap price for your services and then created a product worth ten times what you sold it for? Yeah we've been there more times than we're proud of. While it can make sense to do it, it can end in many uncomfortable discussions later down the road.

    #75 January Recap: The Longest Month, News, Projects

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2025 22:23


    In this new series of episodes we will be doing a monthly update on how the past month went at Same Same. We talk about what projects we've been working on and more day to day insights into our lives managing the company.

    #74 Creating An Authentic Content Strategy

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 46:56


    For those that are up to date you will have already heard that we left Instagram. Leaving a platform we spent so much energy on for many years did not come easy, but knowing that we can now put that energy into mediums that make sense for us made the decision easier.

    #73 This Is How You Can Raise Your Prices

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 4:44


    It's no coincidence that when we niched down which services we offered the leads came flooding in. Don't be afraid to scare off customers, you don't want just any client you want a client that respects what you do and wants to pay you good money for it. Creative Business Essentials – Get the full course

    #72 Four Years of Running A Design Studio, The Highs And Lows

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2025 50:56


    It's our birthday! Same Same Studio turned 4 years old this month. It has been a wild ride up until now and while we are currently thriving (again), there were many times when we were barely surviving. In this episode we reflect on the highs and lows of the last four years.

    #71 The Reality Of Self-Employment: Working 5+ Jobs

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 13, 2025 45:55


    The freedom that running your own business gives you is definitely the major reason why people would choose self-employment over working for someone else. The thing we underestimated is how much time really goes into the business and how little time is left to do the "actual work". In this episode we discuss the reality of running a design studio.

    #70 New Year's Resolutions: What's The Plan For 2025

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2025 29:36


    In this episode we talk about our 2025 goals and how we plan on continuing the success from the previous year. Last year was a lot of tying up loose ends, which means we weren't able to focus on moving forward as much as we would have liked. 2025 is an opportunity for us to grow again.

    #69 Year In Review: 2024

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2024 34:09


    In this special year-end episode, we take a look back at 2024 — the highs, the lows, and everything in between. Join us for an honest recap where we reflect on the challenges, and share our thoughts on what this year taught us.

    #68 Aesthetically Curated Business Feeds, What Is Up With Instagram?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2024 20:55


    We all know those perfect Instagram feeds that almost look like a single image. While they are nice to look at, what value do they offer and are they authentic enough? In this episode we talk about the differences between Instagram and TikTok and aesthetic content vs. authentic content with personality.

    #67 Dos And Don'ts When Selling Your Creative Services, How To Pitch Your Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 18, 2024 34:14


    Being on the client side of things recently when we were looking for a video editor, there were some patterns we noticed in the freelancers that contacted us for the job. In this episode we talk about our experience as a client looking for creative services, and what turned us off vs. what made us want to work with someone.

    #66 Is AI Replacing Designers? The Ethics, And How To Stay Relevant As A Creative

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 11, 2024 29:30


    With design tools like Figma, Framer, Canva and Adobe amping up their AI capabilities you have to wonder as a designer whether your work will be replaced by AI in the future. In this episode we talk about where we think AI is going in the creative industry and how you can set yourself apart as a creative business.

    #65 Designers, Your Portfolio Is Not That Important

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2024 3:41


    Ok so the title is a little click-baity, but what we're really trying to say here is that your portfolio should not be your number one priority when you start out. Your network is so much more important than getting your portfolio to look beautiful and in this short episode from our Creative Business Essentials series explains why.

    #64 Gatekeeping In The Creative Industry, Why We Decided To Make A Course

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2024 31:14


    In this episode we discuss our intentions behind the development of our course Creative Business Essentials. Posting about the course online often does not allow for us to provide the full context behind what we do, which is why we decided to make an episode about it.

    #63 Five Ways We Made Hourly-Based Pricing Work

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2024 5:19


    Yes yes we've said many times we hate hourly-based pricing, but for some types of work it makes the most sense to use this pricing method. There are ways to make hourly-based pricing less of a headache and you can generate liquidity without having to chase clients by implementing certain boundaries.

    #62 Price Transparency, Online Haters, Value-Based Pricing

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2024 46:14


    Whenever we post anything about our business successes on Threads we are met with mostly positivity, but the haters still manage to leave a bigger impression initially. In this episode we unpack some of the comments made on a post that went semi-viral recently.

    #61 Five Reasons Why You Are Not Working With Your Dream Clients

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2024 5:19


    This is the first in a series of short episodes brought to you from Creative Business Essentials. Our course is for anyone starting out in the creative industry, and for people who continue to struggle to make their creative business profitable. In this short snippet we go over five reasons why you are not working with your dream clients.

    #60 Why Creative Businesses Fail

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 23, 2024 41:15


    Starting a business is tough, and it's easy to feel like things aren't working fast enough. But the truth is, most success comes from sticking it out, even when it gets hard. In this episode we talk about the most common things that contribute to failure in creative business.

    #59 Target Groups: One Simple Thing That Could Be Hurting Your Business

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 16, 2024 36:14


    In this episode, we discuss the importance of knowing your target audience when it comes to running a successful creative business. Understanding your ideal clients helps you shape your brand, create lasting relationships, and stand out from the competition. Whether you're just starting out or looking to grow, don't forget to keep analysing the target group in order to measure success. It might be hurting your business if you don't!

    #58 Why Are People Paying Thousands To See Taylor Swift?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2024 26:46


    Value and money don't mean the same thing for every client. Whether it's about priorities, goals, or budget constraints, each person sees value through a unique lens. While some people spend their money to see Taylor Swift, others will feel like it is a waste, and then there are those spending millions for Justin Bieber to sing at their wedding.

    #57 What's Wrong With The Design Community

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2024 34:31


    Why are some designers quick to criticize others' rates? We explore the root causes of this judgmental mindset, how it impacts the industry, and what can be done to foster a more supportive environment. Whether you're a seasoned designer or just starting out, this conversation sheds light on the importance of valuing different pricing strategies and the need for mutual respect in the creative field.

    #56 How NOT To Learn Frontend Development

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 19, 2024 40:42


    There are so many bootcamps and most of them are super overpriced and don't even teach you what you really need in a real world frontend development job. We think they are a scam and there are better ways to become a frontend developer.

    #55 What We Would Do Differently If We Started A Business Today

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 12, 2024 52:06


    Starting a business for the first time is always going to be a lot of learning by doing, and we sure made some mistakes when started our design studio. In this episode we explore how we would go about starting a creative business today and how it would be different to what we did four years ago.

    #54 Creative Business Essentials

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 29, 2024 27:40


    Our business course is almost ready for release and we can finally share more insights on what will be included in the course. Sign up to our newsletter for updates and for first access! Newsletter sign up

    #53 Retainers: What Are They, And Why Do We Love Them?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 22, 2024 26:03


    As a business you always want to have liquidity and retainers are the best and fastest way to achieve that. It not only gives you peace of mind financially, but also builds a foundation for long-term partnerships. It removes the stress of having to take on every single project and client that comes your way.

    #52 Client Red Flags

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 15, 2024 46:10


    We asked our threads community what the worst client red flags are that they experienced. In this episode we discuss some of the most common ones that came up, and the ones we have experienced the most.

    #51 Self-Employment: Is It Worth It?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 8, 2024 38:35


    Being self-employed sounds like a dream, and it can be don't get us wrong! The reality is often worse than an employment in many ways. In this episode we talk about some of the not so nice realities we have faced. Would we do it all again?

    #50 It's Our Birthday! One Year Of Podcasting

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 24, 2024 54:08


    Can you believe we've been doing this for a whole year? Neither can we! It's our birthday episode and this is how it's been and where it will be going.

    #49 Our Biggest Business Ick

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2024 44:26


    Don't you just hate it when someone tells you no? Well so do we, but only when we know that "no" doesn't have to be the answer. A lot of the times people will tell you something is not possible just to get out of having to do it. We cannot stand this attitude and we'll tell you why.

    #48 Pitching: WHY Is That Still A Thing?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 10, 2024 47:12


    Ever been approached to pitch for a contract? We have, and ever since we realised our worth and drew boundaries we decided pitching is a scam and very rarely worth the time and energy put into it. In this episode we talk about our experiences with pitching and why we wouldn't recommend it.

    #47 Liquidity: Generating Cash Flow

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 3, 2024 36:10


    One of our biggest challenges at the end of 2023 was ensuring we had enough liquidity as a company. While many companies choose to take out loans to ensure liquidity, we didn't want to do this. We made some tough decisions last year and this episode we go into what we learned in terms of liquidity not just as a business but also in our private lives.

    #46 Why Does Everyone Have An Opinion On Design?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 27, 2024 43:24


    Everyone who has worked in the field of design probably knows the struggle of having to try many iterations of the same solution to make the client trust that the final result is the "right" one. Clients will hire designers, because they aren't a designer themselves, but at the same time will not always trust the designers decisions. Why do people not trust a designer's expertise?

    #45 No One Should Be Charging $50 For A Logo

    Play Episode Listen Later May 20, 2024 38:27


    An interesting discussion on value and how it is not something you can convince someone about if they are not open to it. The price point will absolutely affect process and the experiences you have as a service provider, because it will attract a certain type of client.

    #44 Not Everyone Who Can Do Should Teach

    Play Episode Listen Later May 13, 2024 41:32


    Ever heard someone say "Those who can't do, teach"? In this episode we unpack that statement and how we don't agree with it. We also talk about what we have learned about teaching since working on our creative business course. If you want more information about our course sign up for updates here

    #42 When Are You Running A Business?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 6, 2024 26:24


    There's a difference between being a contractor (often called freelancer) and a business owner. So what does running a business mean and how is it different? In this episode we discuss some of the distinctions we've discovered through our experience of doing both.

    #41 Crab Mentality And The Race To The Bottom

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 29, 2024 32:54


    "If I can't have it no one should", "I could have done it better and for less money" In this episode we unpack some statements we see quite a lot online from creative people. We also discuss how your pricing shouldn't be the only thing that sets you apart from your competitors.

    #40 Pricing Creative Services: An Update

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2024 37:52


    Have you ever done the work and then had to chase after a client to get them to pay? Yeah, same. We recently had to rethink some things after having a particularly bad experience with a client when it came to invoicing the work that we had done. In this episode we break down what we have done to prevent chasing after clients and new boundaries we set for our pricing strategy.

    #39 Designers, Can We Stop Hating Comic Sans?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2024 39:17


    Designers can be a judgemental and pretentious group which while it is kind of their job sometimes, it can also interfere with the process and the goals of a creative product. In this episode we unpack our thoughts on big egos in project work and expose our appreciation for comic sans.

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