Podcasts about freelancing

Teacher Turned Freelancer Academy is your step-by-step guide to start and grow your freelancing/virtual assistant business. With this program, you'll learn how to work from home in your pjs, with your babies, on your own schedule, offering services that light you up. You'll walk away knowing what services you'd love to offer, you'll understand how to land those clients that will help you replace your income quickly. You'll have the tools, templates, accountability, and support you need to make this dream a reality.   For a limited time, I am offering some super special bonuses when you join the Teacher Turned Freelancer Academy. But hurry, because doors close Friday, January 21 at 11:59pm EST. Learn more about what's included and join me in TTFA at https://teacherturnedfreelancer.com. I can't wait to guide you as you ditch the classroom and step into your new calling as a freelancer/virtual assistant!

Welcome to the free workshop "The Number 1 Way to Leave Teaching in 6 Months or Less." In this workshop, I'll be teaching you what a freelancer/virtual assistant is, what services a virtual assistant can offer, where to find virtual assistant clients so you can replace your income quickly, and the top 3 mistakes that new freelancers/virtual assistants make and how you can avoid them. I'll also be sharing a special secret gift as well! Join the Teacher Turned Freelancer Academy before registration closes on Friday, January 21 at 11:59pm EST. Fast action takers have the chance to take advantage of THREE BONUSES if you register by Sunday, January 15. Learn more and register at teacherturnedfreelancer.com I can't wait to guide you as you ditch the classroom and step into your new calling as a freelancer/virtual assistant.

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Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight's guest, Syed Arsalan Ali Shah. How was his journey like? How did “Connected Pakistan” start? What is the business model that they use? What motivates them to work? How did they optimize their website in the UK? How would Arsalan categorize his business? What are the different segments of Connected Pakistan? Are they different than software houses? How do you upscale yourself within the freelancing framework? Why did Arsalan excel in freelancing? Why are they starting Connected Pakistan chapters? How to bring the change that we want to see? How well marketed was the Kamiyab Jawan project? What is Akhuwat? Is the government responsible for everything? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Arsalan's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/syedarsalanalishah/?hl=en The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDkodgbNMEk --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/syed-muzamil-hasan-zaidi3/support

In today's juicy episode of the Ditch the Classroom podcast, I'm sharing my top 5 time blocking steps for all of you busy teachers and moms!   These tips will help you ditch the overwhelm and allow you to work from home with your babies sooner!   Sign up for the free workshop “The #1 Way to Leave Teaching in 6 Months or Less” which is starting this Thursday, January 13 at 6pm EST. During this workshop you'll learn exactly how you can replace your teaching income from home, with your babies by your side, and finally pay off that debt or take those dream family vacations. There will also be a replay available for those who register! Sign up for the free workshop at https://ariannavernier.com/free-workshop   Also, don't forget to grab your Free Weekly Planner at https://ariannavernier.com/free-weekly-planner/   Join the free community - facebook.com/groups/ditchtheclassroom   Check out today's show notes at https://ariannavernier.com/5-time-blocking-tips-for-busy-teachers

It's officially 2022, and we're welcoming in the new year with Jen Thompson of Cashmere & Cocktails over *strong* cocktails, because, well… duh. And, because we love a good connection point, this cocktail is called Long Nights, which is a good reminder that, um, long nights sometimes require a strong pour. No shame. Jen is a longtime listener of the pod (she says she catfished us into having her on, but we just really like her :) ), and is a food photographer and content creator based in New Brunswick. When she's not developing rich, indulgent dishes and cocktails, she's cracking us all up — in fact, she's responsible for the ~infamous spoon spiel reel~ that still makes us snort. Is there anything better than someone who is funny as hell AND makes good cocktails? No. In this ep, we dove in deep to tons of things, as usj. From the coining of the term “freelance fetus” and free product exchange services (eek!) to truly laughable rate offerings and a phase where ~adult toy companies~ kept reaching out to her for reviews — to which Jen said “I make cupcakes…. I specialize in cookies”

On today's episode of the Ditch the Classroom podcast, I had the pleasure of chatting with Erin Waters, host of the School of Sellers podcast. Erin really shared her wisdom surrounding the mindset struggles that a lot of teachers face when considering leaving the classroom, and how they can overcome them.   Make sure to check out Erin's podcast, the School of Sellers on any of your favorite podcast platforms! And, don't forget to grab her free mini-course to learn the basics of starting your own TPT business at www.schoolofsellers.com/start!   Connect with Erin on Instagram @school.of.sellers or in her Facebook group https://www.facebook.com/groups/schoolofsellers101   Sign up for the free workshop “The #1 Way to Leave Teaching in 6 Months or Less” which is starting next Thursday, January 13 at 6pm EST. During this workshop you'll learn exactly how you can replace your teaching income from home, with your babies by your side, and finally pay off that debt or take those dream family vacations. There will also be a replay available for those who register! Sign up for the free workshop at https://ariannavernier.com/free-workshop   Join the free community – https://facebook.com/groups/ditchtheclassroom   Check out today's show notes at https://ariannavernier.com/common-misconceptions-teachers-have-about-quitting-teaching

Colleen and Michele chat with Nick Zadrozny, Founder and CEO of Bonsai.

Tune in to this podcast where I share the top 5 premium skills that are highly paying and that you should be focusing on if you want to be a profitable, successful marketing freelancer, coach, consultant, or creator in 2022. To get your hands on my proven & tested implementation program that teaches you how to start & grow your freelance business, visit - https://bit.ly/AboutMarketingAccelerator

What if, 6 months from now, you were enjoying your summer KNOWING without a doubt in your mind that you did not have to return to teaching in the fall? What would your life look like if you were able to replace your teaching income from home, working only a few hours a week?   I want to extend a super special invite to all of you amazing listeners of the show. In just a few short days, I'll be hosting a free workshop called “The #1 Way to Leave Teaching in 6 Months or Less.” I was able to quit teaching and replace my income within 6 months with my newborn daughter by my side, and I've helped many other women do the same. You'll learn how you can use your teaching skills outside of the classroom to make a consistent income, WITHOUT having to go back to school and invest in a new degree.   The free workshop will take place January 13 at 6pm EST, and there will also be a replay that will only be available for those who register. Hurry over to ariannavernier.com/free-workshop. I can't wait to see you there!

This is part two! Wrapping up 2021 with our BEST OF... from books to music, influences, and inspiration, and of course, favorite episodes, don't miss it!Support the show (https://buymeacoffee.com/BrandiSea)

Freelancing is fun and exciting, and scary and most of the time unsure. If this is the type of career path you've chosen, then you know how tough it is most times to separate your personal life from what it is that you do because, well, you're following the pace that you set out for yourself. This requires a whole lot of your energy and your time - both very, very precious aspects of living your life to the fullest. How do you balance freelance work and life? Especially when you have a family. How do you divide yourself efficiently so you don't suffer? On this episode, we're talking to TV and events host, content creator and sports anchor, father and husband MIGS BUSTOS! We have AFTER 30 PODCAST MERCH now available for preorder! Click the order form below to reserve yours now. We have two cute canvas bags available, perfect for gifting to yourself or your loved ones who need a nice little reminder and a cute, ergonomically designed bag! We have the GRATEFUL AND KIND mini sling, and a big BREATHE AND LET GO zip tote that can carry all your family baggage and more, haha!I am also doing a merch giveaway this month, so wait up for the announcement on the next episodes!Pre-order Form: https://forms.gle/2g5tDajigg1UQWvo6 I hope you enjoy as much as I did. I love love love hearing from you! Tag @after30withcaraeriguel @caraeriguel!DISCLAIMER:The views and opinions expressed by the podcast creators, hosts, and guests do not necessarily reflect the official policy and position of Podcast Network Asia, the hosts of the program or other programs of the network. Any content provided by the people on the podcast are of their own opinion, and are not intended to malign any religion, ethnic group, club, organization, company, individual, or anyone or anything. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

What does it take to switch to journalism later in life? In this episode, we find out how to move into freelance journalism after starting off in an alternative career. We talk about the rewards and the hurdles of changing careers with Rachel Steinberg, who worked in the theatre in Canada before moving to London to become a sports journalist and Rachel Murray who is an ex-lawyer turned freelance writer.  The Guests Rachel Steinberg Twitter: https://twitter.com/rae_steinberg (@rae_steinberg) Clippings: https://www.clippings.me/rachelsteinberg  Rachel Murray  Twitter: https://twitter.com/gotacommonname (@gotacommonname) Resources and recommendations Pivot newsletter for career changers by Rachel Murray https://pivotnewsletter.co.uk/ JournoResources  https://www.journoresources.org.uk/ (https://www.journoresources.org.uk/) NCTJ diploma https://www.nctj.com/journalism-qualifications/diploma-in-journalism Freelancing for Journalists Facebook community https://www.facebook.com/groups/2526455974236281 (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2526455974236281) Marisa Ingemi, Seattle Times https://www.seattletimes.com/author/marisa-ingemi/ (https://www.seattletimes.com/author/marisa-ingemi/) Marisa's freelance article about companion horses https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/companion-ponies-horses-racetrack-15915104.php (https://www.sfgate.com/sports/article/companion-ponies-horses-racetrack-15915104.php) Lizzy Denning, freelance journalist https://muckrack.com/lizzydening (https://muckrack.com/lizzydening) Lizzy's Out of Office newsletter https://outoffice.substack.com/p/welcome-to-out-of-office (https://outoffice.substack.com/p/welcome-to-out-of-office) Freelancing for Journalists is sponsored by https://www.cision.co.uk/ (Cision)

In this episode, I talk to Chidy Wayne, an illustrator and an artist. We cover topics such as the importance of knowing ourselves, Chidy's work routines, managing finances as a freelancer, the importance and challenges of personal growth in the face of modern distractions, advice for young creatives, his views on the craft of illustration, including style and trends, and much more.BiographyChidy Wayne is a Spanish Guinean illustrator and artist based in Barcelona. He works in various media, including painting, design, animation and music. His expression is influenced by the most prominent fashion illustrators of the 20th century, often characterized by his poetic and precise use of pen, ink and watercolors, and more than any medium, it's distinguished by a sense of groundedness and timelessness.Chidy has worked for clients such as Harvard University, Kinfolk, Nike, Vogue, Mango, Esquire, Kind Surf and New York Magazine, to name a few. He has also published several books describing different technical and conceptual techniques to address and solve some of the challenges specific to fashion illustration.Selected Links From the EpisodeChidy Wayne's WebsiteChidy Wayne's InstagramBerto MartinezPugna CollectionRené GruauShow NotesIntroduction [00:00:00]The Mindful Creative Year [00:01:02]Episode Introduction [00:05:57]Career Advice for Young Creative Professionals [00:07:28]Chidy's Work Routines [00:22:19]Short Episode Break – Support the Podcast [00:32:02]How to Making a Living as a Freelance Illustrator [00:32:50]Personal Growth in the Face of Modern Distractions [00:40:23]Challenges on Chidy's Professional Journey [00:53:12]How To Develop and Find Your Voice as an Illustrator [00:55:53]How to Be a Better Creative Professional [01:04:48]Episode Outro [01:06:58]Full transcript and more at https://creative.voyage/

It's the return of Sari Botton and Carolita Johnson who were last guests on the same show back in April 2018!Sari Botton is a writer, editor and teacher living in Kingston, NY. She is the editor of the award-winning anthology Goodbye to All That: Writers on Loving and Leaving NY and its New York Times-Bestselling follow-up, Never Can Say Goodbye: Writers on Their Unshakable Love for NY. Sari publishes three newsletters: her newest endeavor Oldster Magazine, as well as Adventures in "Journalism," and Memoir Monday. Her work has appeared in the New York Times, New York Magazine, the Village Voice, Harper's Bazaar, Marie Claire, More, and the Rumpus, plus other publications and anthologies. She is a contributing editor and leads essay writing and anthology editing at Catapult and is an adjunct in the MFA program at Bay Path University. Her memoir-in-essays, And You May Find Yourself... will be published by Heliotrope in June, 2022. Sari is the former Essays Editor for Longreads and hopes to one day reopen her co-working space for writers, Kingston Writers' Studio.Carolita Johnson is a cartoonist and illustrator from NYC. She spent 13 years in Paris, France, after graduating from Parson's School of Design with a degree in Fashion Design. In Paris, she earned a masters degree in Modern Letters and Linguistics, and got some (admittedly very idiosyncratic) chops in pre-doctoral Medieval Anthropology, which turned out to be a gateway drug to cartoons and illustration. Her cartoons appear in the new yorker magazine, and in the books: the rejection collection 1, and the rejection collection 2, and sex and sensibility, and she's illustrated the books the new vampire's handbook, and women on food. Carolita is also a writer who has contributed to https://longreads.com/author/carolita/, has an essay in the 2021 reprint of Sari Botton's, goodbye to all that as well as a recent piece in Oldster Magazine on the inner workings of a woman's body.We start out by checking in with what's new with these two since they were last on the show, and then get into a thought provoking conversation based in the essence of Oldster Mag, "perspectives on the joys and frustrations on getting older - at any stage of life." This means we talk about the aging woman's body, how it's largely ignored by the medical industry, ageism, how these two feel about being 56, what's good about it and what's not so good about it. Plus they make some reading recommendations that I've already started on myself!Here's a link to the 10% Happier Podcast I mentioned about ending polarization and the "I, We, I" curve that we can all work to shift.Here's a link to the Joan Didion essay, "Goodbye to All That."Thanks to Warren from Radio Kingston for engineering today's show!Our show music is from Shana Falana !!!Feel free to email me, say hello: she@iwantwhatshehas.org** Please: SUBSCRIBE to the pod and leave a REVIEW wherever you are listening, it helps other users FIND IThttp://iwantwhatshehas.org/podcastITUNES | SPOTIFY | STITCHERITUNES: https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/i-want-what-she-has/id1451648361?mt=2SPOTIFY:https://open.spotify.com/show/77pmJwS2q9vTywz7Uhiyff?si=G2eYCjLjT3KltgdfA6XXCASTITCHER: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/she-wants/i-want-what-she-has?refid=stpr'Follow:INSTAGRAM * https://www.instagram.com/iwantwhatshehaspodcast/FACEBOOK * https://www.facebook.com/iwantwhatshehaspodcastTWITTER * https://twitter.com/wantwhatshehas

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And so I thought maybe this would be a good time to reflect on the year that has been and think about the year to come.Colleen Schnettler  1:13  I love this idea. Wow, that's so cool that we've been doing the podcast long enough that we can have a yearly reflection. We've been doing it more than a year. I know as to how a year and a half. I love it.Michele Hansen  1:26  No. So okay, so let's start out with simple file upload. And I feel like it's been a while since we've like actually talked about simple file upload. So you know, as, again, if this was a professionally edited, produced podcast, this is where the heart noises would be. Coleen, can you take us back to where you were in January of 2021. With your business,Colleen Schnettler  1:55  so in January of 2021.So in January of 2021, simple file upload was in alpha, I believe in the Heroku add on store. And so that means it was not yet available for sale. You have to get 100 users, maybe it's beta, you have to get 100 users of your product in the app store before you're allowed to list it for sale. I've my years Right, right. Yeah, yeah, no, that was okay. It was that was 2020 2020. I launched it. Yep. It was JanuaryMichele Hansen  2:35  of 2020. That it was in beta.Colleen Schnettler  2:38  Right. It December, January, it was in beta. Right? Yeah, because I have the date as of February 4 2021, I was able to make it available for sale. So the product has been available for sale since February of 2021. Wow. And this is December. And since that time, it has grown to I'm not 1200 MRR, which is very exciting. And it has been a I mean, this year has been a wild ride professionally if I look back on it, because launch simple file upload. Learned a lot while doing that. And almost even bigger than that in August of 2021. I quit my job to join the Hammerstone team. And you tookMichele Hansen  3:25  a job and then you quite registered like because you were clear Soltan starting out the year. Okay, the next couple years like,Colleen Schnettler  3:33  yeah, I basically went on this roller coaster up, I'd been consulting for years, then one of the companies I consulted for for years, convinced me to come on full time with them. And I had every intention of that being like a long term gig. It's a wonderful company. And then I think I announced on Twitter or on the podcast that I took a job and I got inundated with offers, which was pretty cool. And good to know if you're job hunting, you should probably hunt before you just take one. But then a couple months later, I had this really unique opportunity to join Hammerstone Hammerstone stone is the company co founded with my buddies, Aaron and Shawn that's building the Query Builder component and get paid to build that out and keep the IP so I had to quit the full time job in order to do Hammerstone full time and right now I'm doing Hammerstone full time paid. Yeah, so that's what that's what's going on.Michele Hansen  4:40  I mean, that's a such a journey for you to go from consulting. And then like this sort of like how much consulting do I need to do like and there's kind of period of time where you're trying to go kind of full time or, like more time on simple file upload. Then kind of Just life necessitated taking a job.Colleen Schnettler  5:05  Yeah, I think that's accurate. And I think a lot of people who are trying to build their own businesses can appreciate this. Like, I am super, super excited for those people that can go all in on their business. But I have a lot of bills. And I moved. Oh, I also moved from Virginia to California this year, gradually, Geez, what a year, man. Yeah, so I think the decision thing for me was I launched simple file upload, and the consulting the thing about what I was doing with consulting as I had more than one client, so it was just this incredible overhead of context switching. And the full time job offered me the opportunity, I had negotiated a four day workweek. So it had offered me offered me the opportunity to only have the two things I was working on. And that would have worked out great. I think, if I had stayed there, that would have been, that would have been a great choice, too. But the Hammerstone opportunity just felt too exciting and too big. It's literally exactly what I want to do to turn down. And so I want to say join them in August, and I've been working full time for the client that is funding the development of the product, it actually gives me less time on simple file upload, which is a constant, again, everyone with a job and a side project can appreciate this. It's like a constant balance, trying to find the time for all the things I want to do. But if you think about Michelle, if we go back to 2020, I don't have any products, and I have so many products, like I don't even have time for the ball. Like it's amazing, right? multiple things, right? So it's been, it's been really, really, really exciting and spectacular. And one of our friends, Pete, he's written a couple books. And he uses this phrase, expanding your luck surface area. And the concept is, like, really successful guys will always say, Oh, I just got lucky. How many times have you met someone who's running a, you know, half 1,000,002 million ARR business? It's like, Oh, we got really lucky. It's like, Yeah, but luck played a part. But this concept, I really love this concept of luck, surface area. Luck played apart, but you did all the things to position yourself to take advantage of the opportunity when it presented itself. Yeah. And so all these things we do honestly, like the podcast and launching products, and speaking at conferences, all of those things, I think, really increase the luck surface area. And so I feel incredibly lucky. But also, I also took a lot of steps to put myself in the position Hammerstone, I think is going to be the thing, Michelle, like, it's we feel the poll. I mean, it is exciting. So, you know, we feel the poll,Michele Hansen  7:53  that's interesting, like so, I mean, being on something that's like moving and people are like customers are really excited about it. I guess how do you like contrast that with the response that you get from simple file upload? Like, does that feel like a contrast?Colleen Schnettler  8:11  Oh, yeah. And I think simple file upload meets a very pressing need people have on Heroku. But outside of that, it feels like pushing, right? Like it feels like and this is this is part of growing a business like I'm not, you know, it is what it is. But it feels like, there's a lot of competitors out there. And I have to convince people to go with me, small solo business vers go with, you know, Cloudflare images, or, you know, file stack or some huge company that has servers or they're just at their disposal. And so it feels like a lot of hustle. And I don't I mean, it's a great all of it is a great learning experience. But Hammerstone I mean, people are basically asking us, they are asking to pay us for this thing that is not even done. Like, yeah,Michele Hansen  9:01  like banging down the door. I mean, there have product market fit there. But it's like, it's like very clear that like it's going to happen.Colleen Schnettler  9:11  I mean, our Early Access, based on a couple tweets my co founder sent out, we have like 200 people on an early access list. Based on we don't even have a landing page for this thing. Like it's amazing. It's really exciting. So it's been really I think Justin Jackson has this great article, I think it was this week, he sent it out, although I don't know if everyone got it this week, but it was basically about like, your market is going to determine your success. Like you can have one person who's hustling. It's not necessarily it's not just how hard you work, like you can work really hard. But it's also your market is going to determine your success. And so I don't know it just feels like so many exciting things have happened to me this year is what I'm trying to say So and I think like the Hammerstone thing wouldn't have happened if simple file upload hadn't happened. Right? So these things compound when you think about like, getting you're putting yourself out there and and, you know, the luck going back to the whole luck surface area thing.Michele Hansen  10:17  Yeah, I mean, I think that makes a lot of sense. And like the whole thing about market like, I feel like that's that's something that that Justin hits on a lot and and valuably, so because, you know, there's a quote from a famous investor that I forget who it is. But it's, you know, if maybe it's Paul Graham, when a you know, a good product meets a bad market market wins when a good team meets a bad market market wins when a bad product meets a good market market wins. And I mean, you guys have like, you know, wind is in your sails, and you are just flying along.Colleen Schnettler  10:59  Yeah, it's, it's pretty exciting. And just to clarify, I am still, I still love working on simple file upload, simple file upload is so much fun for me, because there's such a tight feedback loop. Hammerstone is still in this phase, at least the stuff I'm working on where it's big, and it's it's kind of, it's not, it's not done, right. So it kind of feels like a slog, because it's just kind of brute force and getting the work done. Simple file upload is a joy, because every time a customer emails me a question, like I can iterate and improve it. And so I still I didn't mean to I'm not sunsetting it or anything, like I'm still way into it. And I still feel like there's a way to do both right now. Yeah, I just, it's fun, like people are engaging more, I think, if you go back to founders comp, which was in October, my I was I came out of that really excited. And my goal for simple file upload was to really push to see if I could grow it a little bit. And I had hoped to get to 1500 by the end of the year, and I'm at 1200. So that's fine, right? Like it is what it is. But I think a lot more people are engaging with me than in the beginning. Remember the beginning, I couldn't get anyone to talk to me. Mm hmm. I feel like a lot more people are talking to me now. And so I have all kinds of ideas with what I want to do with it. And so yeah, I'm just over overflowing with ideas right now. So it's cool. I think it'sMichele Hansen  12:29  valuable as entrepreneurs to also have like a, like a safe little sandbox to play in to experiment where, you know, if, if you want to try something, you can, there's nobody telling you, you can't there's nobody's job relying on you, no, you're not doing it, of course, you have customers and you're responsible to them. So you can't, you know, just decide to take down your infrastructure for no reason. But like, if you want to cut the prices, 50% like, you can do that, if you want to raise him 50% You can also do that, like and you can just kind of, like learn as an entrepreneur. I mean, that's how I, I kind of loved having a full time job and a side project for a period of time because it was it was just like my safe little playground. And I think it was really, really valuable to have it as just a side project and not intending to go full time on it, because it just took that pressure off it and it made it a joy to just learn how to run a business without that fear of, you know, this has to pay for our mortgage, and like all of that kind of stuff going into that which just adds a lot of pressure when you're already when you're learning a new skill and outside your comfort zone. Like having financial pressure on top of that is really for a lot of people not very helpful mentally, like it can drive you but it's it's it's a lot of pressure.Colleen Schnettler  14:00  Yeah, I think that's a good way to describe it for me like it's a nice side income right now. And I am learning I mean that is what's so cool is tight feedback loop and I'm learning so much how to talk to customers, I made this change to my onboarding email which seems to have made a huge difference. So stop me if I told you this but my onboarding email used to be asking questions and now it's so it used to be can you tell me why you're using simple file upload and I changed it to be quick tips to help you get started fast or something like that. And that seems to really have made a difference so all these little things I'm learning that I can apply elsewhere have been really fun like I'm really enjoying it.Michele Hansen  14:44  So we talked a little bit about at founder summit of like whether you sell the business or not. We didn't I feel like that conversation was that that was a pretty strong no that you that you really enjoy it as at you know, as this little playground So I'm curious, like, as you think about this coming year, and you know, bearing in mind that humans are famously bad at predictions, and this year had so many twists and turns that you did not expect going into the year.Colleen Schnettler  15:18  Oh my gosh, right here. IMichele Hansen  15:19  mean, not not like you set a goal or almost like, like, do you have like an intention that you would want to set for the year of like? Like, what do you mean, it's a big question, but like, what do you want out of?Colleen Schnettler  15:34  out of it? Yeah, that's a fair.Michele Hansen  15:37  Sorry, is, you know, your is your founder journey? Like, is that taking you more towards Hammerstone? Is that in like, less simple file upload? And I don't I I'm starting to answer my own question. So like, just,Colleen Schnettler  15:58  yeah, I understand. So yeah, right. The end of the year, let's look forward, oh, this will be fun, because then we can look at the end of next year and be like, Oh, how well did we align? Okay, so we're going into what? 2022? That's crazy. Okay. So my vision for 2022 would be, I am getting paid by the client to develop this, this Hammerstone product, and we agreed that I'd go until August, I'm sure that can go plus or minus either side, they're pretty flexible. So my vision for 2022 would be early 2022. We're going to start launching hammers stone in Laravel. We're gonna see what the responses there and kind of see what the support burden is. And I will finish out the rails component. While I do that, I still want to put time and effort into simple file upload. I want to get it to I just want to see what does it take to grow it to 2k? Like, can I get to 2k? What does that even look like? What I do? I'm not I mean, I think I want to see you know, what it's capable of? And yeah, if someone wants to give me $200,000 for it, I'll sell it today. But I think just FYI, I'm open to that. But I think realistic or open first. I think realistically, I have a product now I did the first thing is so many people at founder Summit. Okay, I don't know if you remember this at founder Summit, we were on the bus to go to the balloon. And one of the gentlemen on the bus named Matt was talking about how he's in the market to buy a SAS and someone was trying to sell him their SAS and they kept telling him it had really low MRR, like maybe 500 bucks. And they kept telling him, oh, there's all these opportunities to grow it like, you know, you can grow it this way. And he was like, Look, if that but but it had been like this way for like four or five years. And it just been sitting at two to 500 MRR and he said something that has stuck with me. And he said, Okay, if they can really, if there's really opportunity to grow it, why haven't they done it in the five years they've had this thing? And he said it in a way that made me think, Oh, you can just you can do things to grow your SAS like, it won't. I don't know it, it was this point that like, I have control to some degree over whether this thing grows or not. And so I want to put in the work to see I mean, maybe I'll I'll timebox that maybe I'll put in the work until I think in February, it will be a good review point because it'll be a year old. If I put in the work, what happens? Can I grow this? Can I learn how to use Google Analytics and which I don't still don't know how to use? Um, can I learn how to write better copy? Can I learn how to make landing pages that appeal to my users, like, there's so much marketing, I mean, simple file upload is a it's kind of like a playground where I can learn all this marketing stuff. And that'll help me in all products. But I think my goal would be, you know, Hammerstone is going to launch in the in the spring. And then I should be done in the summer. And then we'll be doing the rails launch and rails onboarding. So I think the preponderance of my time will be on Hammerstone. But I don't know about simple file upload. I don't know if I'll sell it. I don't know if I'll continue to grow it. But I'm not going to grow. I'm not going to sell it before February, so reevaluate in February. So I have no idea what it looks like. Yeah, but I think I think the idea would be to focus more on Hammerstone and grow Hammerstone to support me, so I don't have to consult anymore. That would be pretty sweet.Michele Hansen  19:32  I think it's also worth like reminding that when you launch simple file upload, you wanted to have a product. Oh, yeah. You also like you also did not want to be a solo founder like you have always wanted to be part of a team and I think that's something that drove you to take that job was being part of a team and why you had considered previous job offers.Colleen Schnettler  19:56  Yes, I was lonely. Absolutely. Yeah, very social person. And so I was absolutely lonely.Michele Hansen  20:03  Yeah. And so I think it would make sense if like, you know, Hammerstone becomes, you know, the the focus and the thing that you really want to go for but and simple file upload is just this, you know, cool thing you have on the side. And when you have time you learn, you know, new marketing skills to make it grow a little bit, but like, it doesn't like, it doesn't have to be the thing.Colleen Schnettler  20:28  Oh, yeah, I don't I don't know, with my current time and energies. I don't think it will be. I mean, I don't see this thing getting to 10 km RR in the next year, right. Like, I just don't I don't think that's the thing I think camera showed is going to be the thing. And this will be the side project that, you know, I can continue to dabble in, or I can sell or whatever. But you're right. I just wanted to have a product. I mean, if you look back at this year, it's amazing how far I've come. Absolutely. Yeah. So that's a my self. Oh, totally. I totally am. I'm really happy with with the growth. And the stuff that I did this year for sure. So let's talk about your year in review.Michele Hansen  21:15  Gosh, okay. January 2021. Um, I mean, I guess the point to start, there is really in February, when I started writing the newsletter book, whatever I calledColleen Schnettler  21:29  February, so good month for us.Michele Hansen  21:33  Yeah, right, we have a lot like, we should go back and listen to those episodes. They're probablyColleen Schnettler  21:37  I know, we totally should.Michele Hansen  21:41  So, so yeah, so I started writing the book, as a newsletter, I didn't really know what was gonna go. totally consumed my spring launched it in July. It's crazy. And like, I'd say, there was like, you know, in the beginning, it was like, you know, 9010, like, mostly geocode do and then just a little bit of book and then towards, like, May in June, it was like 7525. And then I feel like August to October was like, almost 5050. But I think as we kind of close out on the year, and all that I'm really realizing that, you know, so like, I wrote a book, but I don't want to be a writer. I am a software entrepreneur who happened to write a book, and not a software entrepreneur who became a writer. And I think that's an important difference. And I feel like I've been struggling with this a lot of like, should I do more books stuff? Like, should I do like paid workshops and courses? And, like, should I go, you know, like, give workshops at companies? And like, Should I do a mini book that's like the how to talk to people talk things should I do podcast should I do like, or like, you know, have a podcast for the book, like showed you all this other stuff. And I could, but I just, I don't want to, and I really miss, like, my company. Like, I really miss I like, you know, working on JUCO do stuff and just find myself really missing like SEO Marketing, rather than like Info Product Marketing. I miss working synchronously with Mateus. Because I feel like so often we're kind of working in the same office, but not actually working together, because my head is elsewhere on books, stuff and whatnot. And, you know, even if there's no pressure to, like, sell more like, like, I feel like, and maybe this is a voice in my head or from other people, or I don't really know where it comes from, but it's like people like, you know, it's like, you wrote a good book that accomplish the goals, I had to teach entrepreneurs how to understand their customers, and, you know, you know, teach them that everyone has a capacity for empathy, and that they should, you know, they could have more empathy for other people and for themselves and teach them how to do that. And like get accomplished that and yet I find myself, you know, refreshing sales reports and being like, am I going to feel like I accomplished what I set out to do when I sell 500 copies or 1000 copies or 10,000 copies and and no, because the book already accomplished what I set out for it to do. It's a all in one place. I can send other founders to learn how to understand their customers and hopefully to learn more about you know, having empathy for others in themselves. I think I'll still do podcasts about the book, but I think going into To 2022 I would like to do more geocoded stuff and less book stuff.Colleen Schnettler  25:08  Okay, that sounds like a very, it sounds like something you've thought about quite a lot.Michele Hansen  25:17  Yeah, it's it's been on my mind. I've been intending to journal about it. I didn't actually journal about it.Colleen Schnettler  25:23  Oh, God.Michele Hansen  25:25  Like, I should know this. And I, I did open my journal like once. Last week, no, twice. No, I opened it twice. Okay. And then I just have I've had a lot of things I've intended to journal about. And thenColleen Schnettler  25:42  I thought about Yeah, like, in my headMichele Hansen  25:43  kind of like drafting that in my head. That's like, I don't know is, you know, I feel like I'm sort of at a crossroads of like, do I want to lean more into this, like writers stuff? And like, right? I just sat answers, just no. Adults, couldColleen Schnettler  26:02  you figure that out. I mean,Michele Hansen  26:03  like, I liked writing the book, I had so much fun. writing it as a newsletter, especially and getting feedback as I went, and then like, interviewing all the people who are reading it, like, that was awesome. Like, I love the writing process, even the really hard parts where I felt like I was doing major surgery on it every weekend, like completely rewriting it, like, but all of the, the work of being an independent writer, like, you know, and I feel like I sound like you're, you know, sort of a very typical indie hacker when I'm like, Oh, I liked you know, creating the thing, but I don't like, like, Yes, I know, I hear that, thank you. But I don't know, I don't have to sell it, like I don't, you know, it's gonna, if it's a good book, people are gonna recommend it. Like, I'll still go on podcasts, like, I'm still gonna talk about it. But that's basically the only thing I found that doesn't really drain me. Like, I feel like I died a little bit inside when I was sending those emails Black Friday week about Lady sale. Like, it's just me, like, it's not that it's not like, that's a valid marketing approach. And it works for a lot of people, but it's just, you know, we like we kind of talked a little bit about, like, founder business fit. Yes, and I've sort of been mulling over this idea about founder marketing fit, which is that, you know, we design our businesses, right, you know, sometimes intentionally and sometimes not, but fundamentally, every decision you make is a design decision in the business. And, you know, it has to be a type of business that that suits you and how you want to work and what you're good at, and, but also how you market it, that has to fit with you too. And like, for some people, you know, sending out like, sales emails, and having a cohort come in, like, whether it's for software or for a course or whatnot. Like, that's how they want to do things. And that really fits with how they like to work. For other people like me, that's like, I really like talking to people and then looking at analytics, and then writing stuff related to what people need. And then like selling that way, and actually, you know, doing active sales, negotiating with people, I enjoy all of that. And I feel like with God, I have a really, really good founder, marketing fit, like, the way we market the product works. And I feel good about it, and it plays to my skill set. And I'm always improving that skill set, but like, it's, it's very much in my wheelhouse. And I just feel like the way of promoting a book and it's just not a fit for me. Like it's just not. And, you know, I could promote it in other ways. Like, um I don't, I'm just I'm just so drained. Like, by so much of it. Like, the only thing that feels drained me is like, you know, talking to people on podcasts.Colleen Schnettler  29:16  Okay, so I felt this way about the book for a while, it feels like you're asking permission to not market it.Michele Hansen  29:22  Yeah. Because I feel like to me, like you know, there was there was this point when I was still in the drafting phase when somebody who had who had bought the preorder of it you know, made a comment I think on like LinkedIn or something that like, the book was not only helping them understand their customers better, but also helping them understand how to be a better coworker and spouse. And like, that was the moment when I knew I was like, Okay, this book has achieved what I hoped it would achieve. And then some like my like, wildest dream goal here. And now I just need to ship it. But to me like the book is a success, if I have one person have that response to it, like, I don't need to have a million people read this book, I don't even need to have 10,000 Read it, right? Like it's and it's also like this is, this is a long term asset, right? Like it's not going to expire. You know, it's sold almost 1000 copies in its first year, which is apparently a lot better than, than most books both published and self published. Like this is a long term thing, I can't exhaust myself on it now doing all sorts of things that I don't need to do that don't feel natural or like a fit to me. But just success is just not the number of copies sold. And it's not like anybody is asking for how many I've sold. But I'm like, oh, like spilled in public thing. I should be posting like a numbers update every so often. And I do that. And then I find myself like checking the sales reports every day, and I feel so drained. And it's just like, it's just, that's just not success to me. Like I just don't. I just don't, I just don't care about like, that was just not I didn't write it to make money or to sell a certain number of copies. I feel like I've kind of been stuffing down my own feelings about what success for the book looks like.Colleen Schnettler  31:38  Right? So my thought here is, why are we even talking about it anymore? don't market it. Just let it be? Oh, no, no, that that's the right thing. Right. Like I said, Okay, well do what you feel comfortable with. I'm you know, podcast. SoMichele Hansen  31:53  booked on a bunch of podcasts like, Yeah, I kind of kind of like take like a month off from doing that. Okay, but like, I like doing that. Um, but even like writing the newsletter, like, has felt like a burden. And I think it's because I've been doing all this. I've been doing all this talking about talking to customers, but I haven't had time to actually talk to customers. Yeah, I feel like I have anything to say at this point. I mean, and the point of the book was to get everything in my head out. Right, I did that. And so now I don't really? I don't know I, at least for right now. I feel like I don't have anything else.Colleen Schnettler  32:34  Yeah, well, I think that okay, so you know me very well. I am a pretty logical person. Don't read horoscopes don't go to psychics, not really into that touchy feely stuff. And I am a firm believer, despite all of that, this is totally out of line with my personality. I'm a, I'm an I'm a firm believer of like going with your energy. So if you are dreading it every time you send out a Black Friday email, I mean, you you've learned this about yourself, you know that that's not the right thing to do. So I for you, and your, you know, because you have income from another source, you can totally do that you are in no way dependent on this book income. I think it's great that you've kind of discovered this about yourself and made this decision. And you're just going to do the things that, you know, bring you energy and you love which it sounds like is the podcast promoting and just let the other stuff go turn off the notifications? Who cares?Michele Hansen  33:25  Yeah. You know, I think for like, for me, like, my theme of 2021 was the phrase soul nourishing, and I love that doing things that I felt really, really nourished my soul whether that's conversations with people who have similar values, or ideas or dreams, or writing the book, and kind of fulfilling that lifelong dream of writing a book was one of them. I don't know what 2022 is going to be, but I feel like it needs to be not just my soul getting nourished because as we've talked about, I've neglected a lot of other areas of I don't I don't know the word I'm looking for here but like, there needs to be a sort of overall wellness. Focus, I think a little bit more of a holistic, nourishing. Okay, going on. And that includes kind of like, yeah, you're such a California girl, respecting my energy, you know,Colleen Schnettler  34:43  I know right? Come over, I'll give you an SAE Bowl trophy for breakfast now. I didn't even know what else it was before I moved here. Now I'm like, Oh, I buy that shit at Costco.Michele Hansen  34:53  Yes, I'm gonna show up and you're gonna give me like crystals and essential oils. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no Yeah, I know, I, you know, it took me like a couple of months for that phrase like Soul nourishing to kind of crystallize in my head and be driving me. So it's gonna take me time for whatever this new phrase is going to be. But like, I'm very much in my head, like, like I like I went to get a massage a couple weeks ago because like, I need to work on my stress, I need to lower my stress levels, I need to go get a massage. And the massage therapist was like, I need to get you out of your head and into your body because you are so much in your head. Yeah. And and so, I don't know. I don't know. I'll let you know when I figureColleen Schnettler  35:38  out what Yeah, report back. But so for you 2020 To tell us more aboutMichele Hansen  35:43  to like I was so outside my comfort zone this year between being in a country and writing a book and promoting a book and like, all these other things, like I'm so far outside my comfort zone that I really just want like, comfort and coziness in my life. Like I want yeah, I want it to be calm and peaceful and quiet. Like I find myself missing quietness.Colleen Schnettler  36:15  And so you think for you that you don't know what that looks like, but you think that probably means more time on geocodes to working with your husband. And just chill out? Like you're kind of acclimating you've been there a year now. How long have you lived there? Gosh, when did you go here a year and a half?Michele Hansen  36:32  Like, yeah,Colleen Schnettler  36:33  the podcast. I can always no, that's because we're notMichele Hansen  36:36  talking to each other. It's like, we need a weekly appointment to make sure we talk to each other. Let's make it a public appointment. Like,Colleen Schnettler  36:44  uh, but I Yeah, okay. I know, you're talking about calm over there. And I have, for whatever reason, something you said just started all these ideas going off into my head that I'm really excited about all of a sudden. So. Yes. 2020 To be a calm year for Michelle 2023 I mean, refer to comfortingly. arity Yeah. push really hard for a yearly arity. No, I totally get that. I think, right, you worked. I mean, you hustled like, whoa, this year. So maybe this 2022 is a year where you relax into what you have built and grown for yourself. I mean,Michele Hansen  37:27  and I also, you know, did expand my luck surface area to quote peeking again. And, you know, so that means, you know, maybe there will be conference talk opportunities or other podcasts or something like, I'm open to that. It's just, I'm just Yeah, I'm just so tired. And, you know, I like, I like giving talks, but I'm not gonna, like hustle and create this, like workshop package that I can sell to companies.Colleen Schnettler  38:00  Yeah, you know what? I'm not gonna do. Okay, can I say something? Because I want to get it on record. Okay. So, earlier, you said that you were looking, you know, how drainie I'm sorry, how the marketing for the book is really draining, and you want to do things that really, you know, bring you energy. Okay, this is only 2021. So I'm thinking like, 2025 and I know, I brought this up a few times. However, now that I have a business that looks like it's gonna be really successful. Dude, we are so starting an incubator. Like we're gonna have our own venture fund, and then we're going to help people build businesses. 2025 You heard it here first.Michele Hansen  38:39  I don't know if it's a venture fund or like, it's like our own on profit income. I don't know what it looks like or something. There's gonna be a software social something.Colleen Schnettler  38:51  I feel like this is gonna happen. Like you talking about your energy levels. That'sMichele Hansen  38:55  taken but software social something is Yeah. Gonna have coming at some pointsColleen Schnettler  39:03  in the next 10 years. The future in the future. Yeah. Okay. I know, I brought it up before I just when you were talking about excitement. I was like, Oh, dude, this is this is something we're gonna maybe do someday. That'll be a good retirement job for me. Yeah, totally. Right. I mean, maybe it'll be years 20 years. I don't know. Someday. So that sounds good, though. I mean, that sounds like for you.Michele Hansen  39:29  In my backyard those are my retirement you drink gin. Yeah, like dreamed about making a little like, gin distillery My oh my gosh, are so funny on our farms smell like they smell like apricots when you bolt them. And then I'm like, Oh, Nick, amazing. Like pine. Apricot. Gin. So I don't make it now. But that's again, retirement dreamColleen Schnettler  39:48  retirement dream. Yeah, so it sounds like to sum up your money 52 Oh my gosh, to submit for 2022 It sounds like you are looking for a year of finding balance. Yeah, and all the things balance. I think I am looking for another hustle year. So 2022 is going to be another I know 2021 was a hustle year for me with Hammerstone launching and simplify, upload kind of not sure what I'm going to do with that. But 2022 for me is another hustle year I thinkMichele Hansen  40:26  2020 was like a hustle year for you as much as like a ping pong year because I feel like all over the place kind of all over the place like both like physically and yeah, work wise. And like, I would love to see you really, really grow into this role of being a founder of Hammerstone. And like, and, and bringing that to life and helping that blossom and really leaning into that because I think you have so much more to discover about yourself as a founder.Colleen Schnettler  41:04  Yeah, totally agree. I love it.Michele Hansen  41:06  Cheers to 2022 Cheers toColleen Schnettler  41:09  2022 Oh, my goodness. All right, well, I guess that will wrap up this week's episode of the software, social podcast, Happy New Year to all of you. We'd love to hear what your goals are for 2022. Or if you want to hit us with the 2021 recap. That's always fun. We love to hear everyone's stories. You can reach us on Twitter at software slash pod. Talk to you next year. It's no my favorite joke. Remember when you were a kid and used to make that joke? Like like talk to you next year? It's still a great joke. Okay,

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On today's episode of Behind the Grind Show, we sit down for a second time with Sean Mullins - owner of Pensacola Vibes and Gulf Coastal Creatives. We talk with Sean about quitting his 9-5 to pursue freelancing full-time, what he's learned as a freelancer in 2021, and much more! We hope you enjoy! Behind the Grind Show is brought to you by Mastered Craft Media. Our title sponsor is The Spring Entrepreneur Hub - Your small business journey begins at the Spring Entrepreneur Hub. The Spring is not only a place where aspiring entrepreneurs can get help and connections to start their dream business, but starting in April The Spring will open its brand new Co-working space on the first floor of the SCI Building in downtown Pensacola. To learn more, visit TheSpringPensacola.com/BTG. Fueled by Tacos Mexicanos - where they're serving real Mexican street food in East Hill and downtown Pensacola. Use code "behindthegrind" on your East Hill online order for free queso. Sponsored by Cycle Joint - an electric bicycle shop located in historic Downtown Pensacola selling light electric vehicles including electric bikes, electric skateboards, and One wheels. Cycle Joint wants to help make your journey as much fun as your destination. Sponsored by Waterboyz Surf and Skate Shop and fueled by Cafe Single Fin's Cold Brew Coffee. Sign up at www.waterboyz.com for the Pensacola Winter Classic Surf Contest (date TBA) at the Pensacola Beach Pier! There will be multiple divisions for everyone and cash prizes for the top 3 winners of the open division, as well as prizes from local businesses and brands like Nixon, Volcom, Xcel, and more! Be sure to follow Waterboyz on Instagram and Facebook for updates on the event! Sponsored by Shevlin Pierce at FBC Mortgage. Shopping for a mortgage or refinancing your home loan can seem like a big process. To have an easy, innovative, and fun home loan experience, you can trust Shevlin Pierce at FBC Mortgage. Beats by 6FYVE | Spotify | IG

In this episode, we speak to two freelance journalists, Miranda Levy and Alice Draper about the moral choices you can be confronted with as a freelance journalist. We discuss how to set boundaries and how to avoid conflicts of interest.  The Guests Miranda Levy Website: https://mirandalevy.co.uk/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/mirandalevycopy (@mirandalevycopy)  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mirandalevyinsta/ (@mirandalevyinsta) Alice Draper Website: https://www.alicedraper.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/alicemdraper (@alicemdraper)  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alicedraper/ (@alicedraper) Resources and recommendations Vice photo scandal https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/12/cambodia-vice-edited-photos-khmer-rouge-victims-smiling-tuol-sleng-prison-genocide (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/12/cambodia-vice-edited-photos-khmer-rouge-victims-smiling-tuol-sleng-prison-genocide) Alice's personal essays https://www.alicedraper.com/portfolio/ (https://www.alicedraper.com/portfolio/) Tayla Blaire https://taylablaire.contently.com/ (https://taylablaire.contently.com/) Tanya Gold https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/t/ta-te/tanya-gold/ (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/authors/t/ta-te/tanya-gold/) https://muckrack.com/tanyagold1/articles (https://muckrack.com/tanyagold1/articles) Freelancing for Journalists is sponsored by https://www.cision.co.uk/ (Cision).

One of the biggest questions I get asked is “Is my desire to leave teaching just because I'm burnt-out, or is God calling me somewhere else for a reason?”   In today's episode of the Ditch the Classroom podcast, I'm helping you distinguish between the two so you can you figure out if it's time for you to take that first step into quitting teaching for good.   Sign up for the free workshop “The #1 Way to Leave Teaching in 6 Months or Less” which is starting Thursday, January 13 at 6pm EST. During this workshop you'll learn exactly how you can replace your teaching income from home, with your babies by your side, and finally pay off that debt or take those dream family vacations. There will also be a replay available for those who register! Sign up for the free workshop at https://ariannavernier.com/free-workshop   Connect with me on Instagram @arianna.vernier   Check out today's show notes at https://ariannavernier.com/is-quitting-teaching-a-dream-from-god-or-teacher-burn-out

We have a full-circle moment this week to celebrate our 75th episode! We got to hang out with Anna McNaught over a delightful mulled wine cocktail called “Mulling It Over” (thanks Mushaboom Studio) and talk #allthethings — and, for those of you who might not remember, Anna was actually who we started Per Our Last Email with forever ago!

Episode SummaryHarry welcomes to the show app developer, freelancer and podcaster, Rob Joseph. Rob is the host of the Coffee & Coding podcast, a show that provides interviews & insights with experienced developer's across all aspects of App Development, including topics ranging from Flutter, Cyber Security, Freelancing, Android & iOS. In this episode, Harry and Rob discuss Rob's background in coding and the inspiration to launch his own podcast. They talk about the freedom that comes with freelancing and how it differs from running your own business. Finally, Rob shares his process for curating meaningful interview questions and his decision to launch a podcast about podcasting.  Episode SponsorsFocusrite –http://pjnk.es/focusrite ( http://pjnk.es/focusrite) FullCast –https://fullcast.co/ ( https://fullcast.co/) Key Takeaways06:17 – Harry and Rob talk about Rob's background in coding and the freedom that comes with freelancing  19:18 – The distinction between freelancing and starting your own business  24:29 – Why app design?  30:22 – The inspiration behind the Coffee & Coding podcast and Rob's first guest  34:13 – Rob's interview process and his growth as a podcast host  46:22 – The decision to launch a podcast about podcasting  54:51 – Something Rob has changed his mind about recently and the most misunderstood thing about him  58:24 – Harry thanks Rob for joining the show and let's listeners know where they can connect with him  Tweetable Quotes“The biggest thing [about freelancing] comes down to trust. And I think if you have an objective way to measure the goal that you want, then really the in-between doesn't matter.” (15:14) (Rob)  “The biggest thing that drove me into app developing was actually two things. One, I read an article on Life Hacker that said this is our perfect to do list app. So, in my young brain I'm thinking, ‘Right, if I build this app, that's the million dollar idea.' I started to kinda learn app development from there. I didn't really make a dent, but what it taught me was that I could do some of it.” (25:09) (Rob) “I approached it [Coffee & Coding] pretty much the same way that I approach my apps, which is that I build stuff that I want. So I really wanted to listen to a show that was about app development but it wasn't technical.” (30:39) (Rob) “You want to get the best conversation from them. You want to get the best content for your guest. Personally, I want to have a great conversation. So, why would I ask you questions that I know the answer to?” (44:33) (Rob) Resources MentionedFullCast Website –https://fullcast.co/ ( https://fullcast.co/) Podcast Junkies Junkies Facebook Group –https://www.facebook.com/groups/podcastjunkiesjunkies/ ( https://www.facebook.com/groups/podcastjunkiesjunkies/) Link to Podfest Expo Virtual Summit –https://podfestexpo.com/ ( https://podfestexpo.com/) Link to Follow Up Then – https://www.followupthen.com/ (https://www.followupthen.com/)  Rob's LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/in/therobj/ (https://www.linkedin.com/in/therobj/)  Rob's Instagram – https://www.instagram.com/lowcarbrob/ (https://www.instagram.com/lowcarbrob/)  Rob's Twitter – https://twitter.com/LowCarbRob (https://twitter.com/LowCarbRob)  Rob's Podcasts:  Coffee & Coding – https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coffee-coding-the-app-developer-podcast/id1516149785 (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/coffee-coding-the-app-developer-podcast/id1516149785)  Inside the Podcast Studio – https://insidethepod.co/ (https://insidethepod.co/)  Link to ‘Make Noise' – https://www.amazon.com/Make-Noise-Creators-Podcasting-Storytelling/dp/1523504552/ref=asc_df_1523504552?tag=bingshoppinga-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80401880071863&hvnetw=o&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584001425728657&psc=1...

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight's guests, Qasim Umer. He is talking about his educational journey; how did he end up in Islamabad? How did he get into e-commerce and freelance? In what ways did he increase his income? How and when did he get married? Did covid cause a problem in freelance? What is conversion revenue optimization? How can one invest when in Pakistan? Catch this, his journey, and much more in tonight's episode. Do not forget to subscribe and press the bell icon to catch on to some amazing conversations coming your way! Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiES36Nvv08 --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/syed-muzamil-hasan-zaidi3/support

This is an incredibly insightful interview from a freelance writer who does NOT use freelancing platforms to find her leads. Colleen, instead, manages her own freelancing business as an independent freelancer who uses cold pitching and other marketing tactics to grow her business today. Also the owner of the Freelance Writer's Guide, Colleen sees herself as someone who gives people advice on freelancing and copywriting in a world where freelancing is becoming critically important. She is also a good friend of mine and an all-around amazing and hilarious person. Enjoy the episode! For more information on the Freelance Writer's Guide, visit: https://www.thefreelancewritersguide.com/. To follow Colleen on TikTok, visit: https://www.tiktok.com/@thefreelancewritersguide?. Want to join a community of freelancers? Receive free feedback on your Fiverr gigs and services? Join my group "Freelancing Mentorship with Alexandra Fasulo:" https://www.facebook.com/groups/3715810965116993. About Alexandra Fasulo Alexandra Fasulo 'the Freelance Fairy' is a Fiverr millionaire, Fiverr PRO copywriter, and host of the Freelance Fairytales podcast. She is a recognized gig economist, CNBC Make It financial independence success story, and mentor to millions of people looking to break into freelancing. Alex's website: https://alexfasulo.com/. Follow Alex on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexfasulobiz?lang=en. Follow Alex on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafasulo/. To learn more about turning any side hustle into a 6-figure business, visit: https://mentorcamp.mykajabi.com/ultimate-side-hustle.

#111 Some graphic designers have misconceptions about outsourcing work vs keeping it all in-house. Find out common objections designers have about outsourcing and how outsourcing can help your freelance design business.

For all of the interest in freelance writing, it's surprising how little good information is  available on the topic. Tim Herrera is the anecdote to that. The former New York Times journalist now runs Freelancing with Tim, a newsletter and consulting service that offers advice, insight, and guidance into freelancing. On the pod, Tim offers invaluable advice on starting a freelance hustle, from building your digital presence to crafting the perfect pitch. He gives an overview of the freelancing landscape today, and what strategies you can implement to put your best foot forward. Tim and Jon also talk about drawing the line between your work and your identity (which can be really hard as a writer), and how helping others uplifts everyone in the industry.

Today on the Ditch the Classroom podcast, I had the pleasure of chatting with Amber Glus, coach for copywriters and host of the School of Copy and Messaging podcast.   In this episode, Amber shared with us what it takes to become a copywriter, the benefits of offering copywriting as a service, and the first steps you need to take to start your new business as a copywriter.   Make sure to grab Amber's freebie at www.amberglus.com/website and check out her podcast, The School of Copy and Messaging. You can connect with Amber on Instagram @amberglus, or in her Facebook community.   Sign up for the free Virtual Assistant Workshop, the Ditch the Classroom Toolkit, or Teacher Turned Freelancer Academy – https://ariannavernier.com/resources   Join the free community – https://facebook.com/groups/ditchtheclassroom   Check out today's show notes at https://ariannavernier.com/benefits-of-adding-copywriting-to-your-virtual-assistant-service-toolbelt

Colleen and Corey talk Swipe Files, marketing for SAAS founders, and shooting your shot.

Episode 139: If you're reading this, chances are you use social media or have in the past. Have you come across The Real Reel's Instagram page and enjoyed the interactive stories and cohesive branding? How about the fun captions and inspiring quotes? On today episode, Natalie is speaking with the magician behind all that beautiful content and more, Kennedy Meehan. Kennedy is the founder of Azure Agency and began her entrepreneurial journey as a freelancer fresh out of college and smack in the middle of the pandemic. As a PR specialist and social media wizard, she has tons of great advice to share about brand identity, digital engagement, and optimizing social platforms — plus she has the inside scoop on what's behind The Real Reel's highlight reel.    Kennedy Meehan founded The Azure Agency in 2021 after working as a freelance publicist and social media manager. Although COVID was incredibly challenging, she was able to grow her business through educating companies on the importance of brand identity and social media. Her agency has worked with some incredible businesses including Hani Bee Jewelry, Whiskey & Water, Only The Best, and many more.    Today's episode dives into:  How to use TikTok for market research and hashtag strategies  Ways to build a client list and effectively send cold emails  Methods to make sure you are hiring the right people and interview red flags    Thank you so much for being a part of our podcast community! Please be sure to rate, follow, review, and of course, post to your highlight reel. Follow your host Natalie on Instagram @nataliebarbu and @therealreelpodcast.    Follow Kennedy on Instagram @kennedymeehan and The Azure Agency @theazureagency    Thank you to our sponsors for making this episode possible. Check out these deals just for you:  CANVA - Go to canva.me/realreel to get your FREE 45-day extended trial.  QUIP - Go to getquip.com/realreel to save $10 on a quip Smart Electric Toothbrush.  CUROLOGY - Go to curology.com/real for a free 30-day trial and just pay for  shipping and handling!  NUTRAFOL – Go to nutrafol.com/realreel to save FIFTEEN DOLLARS OFF your first month's subscription plus FREE shipping on EVERY order.  BETTERHELP – Go to betterhelp.com/trr for 10% off your first month  PRINCESS POLLY – Go to princesspolly.com and use the code REAL20 for 20% off your  next order.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A look back at 2021 and a look ahead to 2022. Thank you for your continued interest in Resourceful Designer. You have no idea how much I appreciate you. There are so many great resources available for learning and growing as a designer, and I'm humbled that you chose to spend a bit of your valuable time with me. I am continuing my annual tradition. This last podcast episode of 2021 is my Look Back, Look Ahead edition. It's where I reflect, and of course, share, what my year was like as a design business owner. Then I'll look ahead at what I want to accomplish in 2022. A Look Back at my 2021 goals. At the end of 2020, I set these goals for myself. FAIL: Talk at more conferences. For obvious reasons (hint, there was a pandemic), I failed at this one. I talked at two virtual conferences at the beginning of the year, but I didn't enjoy the experience and opted not to apply anymore. FAIL: Grow the Resourceful Designer podcast audience. When the pandemic hit in 2020, my podcast listenership took a big hit like many other podcasts. A lot of people listen to podcasts on their commute. And with the elimination commutes, people didn't have time to listen as much. I was hoping that the numbers would tick back up this year. But I'm still way below what I used to get before the pandemic hit. ACCOMPLISHED: Grow the Resourceful Designer Community. The Community is my pride and joy. One day, when I'm no longer doing the podcast, I'll look back at everything I did with Resourceful Designer, and I'm sure the Community will be my proudest accomplishment. The friendships formed and all the freely given help is more than I could have ever hoped. If you're not a member of the Community and you're looking for camaraderie with fellow designers, I highly suggest you check it out. Registration will open up again in February 2022. ACCOMPLISHED: Grow Podcast Branding. I think I made the pivot this year from Podcast Branding being a side business to my main business. I know financially, it's much more lucrative than my long-standing design business. Some of my numbers from 2021 Resourceful Designer I released 41 podcast episodes. The lowest in a calendar year since I launched the podcast. The number is down because I took several weeks off this summer after my father passed away. Reached over 630k total episode downloads in 2021 (Over 63k of which were in 2021) Resourceful Designer released on Samsung devices. My design business COVID-19 continued to affect my business in 2021. I lost several clients due to closure. And many who remained were affected financially and didn't ask me for anything. Worked on design projects for 23 different clients (up from 9 in 2020) No new clients in 2021. I sent out 41 invoices in 2020 (up from 14 in 2020) Lost five long-standing clients due to various reasons but mostly COVID-19 related. Started consulting work with our local Business Enterprise Centre. NOTE: I didn't actively promote my design business in 2021. Instead, I concentrated on growing my other business, Podcast Branding. Podcast Branding My Podcast Branding business was my moneymaker this year. Worked with 64 different clients (up from 51 in 2020) Launched nine new websites for clients. (down from 16 in 2020. However, revenue from those nine websites was more significant than the 16 last year.) It was featured as a guest on two podcasts that brought in new business. A Look Ahead at my 2020 goals. My previous goals will continue to carry over in the new year. Continue to grow the Resourceful Designer Community. Concentrate more on Podcast Branding and so forth. New Goal for 2020. Create new partnerships to grow what I offer at Podcast Branding. Expand the Resourceful Designer Community to include even more offerings than now. Do more consulting work. What about you? Did you accomplish your goals for 2021, and What are your goals for the new year? Are you a student getting ready to graduate? What are your goals once school is over? Are you still relatively new to the design world? What are your goals to hone your skills? Are you a veteran designer like I am? What are your goals for continued growth? Are you a designer working for someone else? Maybe you enjoy your job; perhaps you don't. Either way, what are your future goals? Or perhaps you're already a home-based designer, a freelancer if that's the term you use; what goals do you have to grow your business? Wherever you are in the world, whatever your level of skill, whatever your situation is, I want you to take some time to look back at 2021 and think about your accomplishments AND your shortcomings. Did you stop after your accomplishments? Or did you plow right through them, happy with yourself but reaching even further? What about your shortcomings? Did they discourage you or create a sense of want even higher than before? Think about what prevented you from reaching those goals. So long 2021. As 2021 comes to an end. I encourage you to reflect. Think about everything you've learned. Your struggles, the things you fell short on (be it your fault or just the state of the world) and your accomplishments. And come up with a plan to make 2022 your year of success.  To help with your planning, perhaps you should listen to episode 55 of the podcast, Setting Goals For Your Design Business. These past two years have been tough on all of us. I hope that we never have to endure something like this ever again. But you know that old saying, what doesn't kill you only makes you stronger. Remember the lessons from these past two years, and use everything you've learned to make 2022 and future years even better. I'll be back in 2022 with more advice for starting and growing your design business. Until then I want to wish you a Merry Christmas and a wonderful holiday season. And of course, no matter what goals you set for yourself in the new year, always remember to Stay Creative. What are your goals for 2022? Let me know by leaving a comment for this episode.

Lindsay Ernst of Ink + Ellie came to hang out with us on this week's episode of the pod — over a v delicious, pregnancy-friendly cocktail that we named “Give Me a Break,” of course — and it was the most delightful, Dunder Mifflin-esque kinda ep. Lindsay is a visual branding, packaging, and website designer in the Bay Area, and we're infatuated. See, here's the thing: you guys KNOW we love The Office, and we actually met Lindsay when Elle hosted her on Adobe Live while she rebranded Serenity by Jan. Hooked. From the start. ~”I just come in here, and I SMELL MY CANDLES.”~ (Anyone? Plz? Andy and Jim, do you wanna invest in Per Our Last Email?! We're way more level headed than Jan Levinson, promise.) In this episode we talked about everything from The Office (duh) and client red flags to a v unique request she got from a client…. i.e., to Photoshop… Halle Berry's head… on a stock image. Oh, the freelance life, you guys. What. A. Trip. Plus, Lindsey left us some really, really good insights on growing when you want to, instead of feeling like you need to. She said, “you can stay small and still live a really fulfilled design life,” and it really connected. You ready to jump in? Let's go. Send your most audacious stories, thoughts, highs and lows to perourlastemail.com.Follow Lindsay on IG at @inkandelliedesign and check out her site at inkandellie.comWatch her Adobe Livestreams here: Day 1 and Day 2Follow us on Instagram: @perourlastemail @weekendcreative

Be part of our community by joining our Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thoughtbehindthings In conversation with tonight's guest, Sheryar Baloch. We talked about his hometown and how it contributes to the economy? What did he study? What schools did he go to? Was it hard for him to freelance while living in Kharan? How did he deal with the clash of civilization? When did he earn his first dollar? How does he work on Amazon and what type of clients does he have? Catch this and much more in tonight's episode. Connect with us: • https://www.instagram.com/thoughtbehindthings • https://www.instagram.com/muzamilhasan Sheryar's Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sheryar.baloch.1217 The Pakistan Pivot podcast: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a07WTzhR3sM&t=11s --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/syed-muzamil-hasan-zaidi3/support

Prior to starting his own company, Erik was a freelancer. In this episode, Erik shares his dirty little secret on how he landed his first gigs in freelancing. — Erik J. Olson is the Founder & CEO of Array Digital - a marketing agency that provides bold marketing which helps managing partners grow their law firms. He is also: Author of Million Dollar Journey: How to launch a seven-figure business, available on Amazon.com. Host of the Journey to $100 Million daily podcast—sharing tips, tricks, and lessons learned from scaling Array Digital into be a world-class digital marketing powerhouse. Host of The Managing Partners Podcast—interviews with America's top managing partners about how they're running and growing their law firms. Erik speaks often on the topics of entrepreneurship, building freelance businesses, and digital marketing. Connect with Erik on Instagram at @erik.j.olson. — Kevin Daisey is an award-winning digital marketer & entrepreneur. He started his first company when he was just 23, and is the Founder & CMO of Array Digital. Kevin is also the co-host of the Journey to $100 Million Flash Briefing and daily podcast, and the co-organizer of the Marketers Anonymous monthly meetups. — For more information on the show, and to check out past episodes, go to journeyto100million.com!

Is it possible to freelance while going to school as a college student? For Olivia Kelliher, the answer is a resounding YES. On top of completing a difficult degree and being a full-time student athlete, Olivia has managed to foray into the world of financial freedom while growing her business TikTok account to over 300k followers. This is a very inspiring recap on how you can structure your time to balance freelancing with any other kind of requirement. Fun fact: Did you know individuals as young as 13-years-old can freelance on sites like Fiverr? To follow Olivia on Instagram, visit: https://www.instagram.com/olivia_kelliher/. To follow Olivia on TikTok, visit: https://www.tiktok.com/@oliviakelliher?. Want to join a community of freelancers? Receive free feedback on your Fiverr gigs and services? Join my group "Freelancing Mentorship with Alexandra Fasulo:" https://www.facebook.com/groups/3715810965116993. About Alexandra Fasulo Alexandra Fasulo 'the Freelance Fairy' is a Fiverr millionaire, Fiverr PRO copywriter, and host of the Freelance Fairytales podcast. She is a recognized gig economist, CNBC Make It financial independence success story, and mentor to millions of people looking to break into freelancing. Alex's website: https://alexfasulo.com/. Follow Alex on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@alexfasulobiz?lang=en. Follow Alex on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexandrafasulo/. To learn more about turning any side hustle into a 6-figure business, visit: https://mentorcamp.mykajabi.com/ultimate-side-hustle.

Would it surprise you to hear that there will be more independent contractors than there will be employees in the next ten years? Today's guest, Laura Briggs, addresses this trending pivot in the business world, plus we learn why it's important for an entrepreneur to build a personal brand and ways that we can create visibility. Laura also shares the benefits of (along with plenty of tips for) bringing freelancers to our teams! Laura is a teacher-turned-entrepreneur, author, and expert on the freelance economy. She's given two TEDx talks on how freelancing is changing the workforce and is the author of five books, including The Six Figure Freelancer.  Don't miss this lively and informative conversation! Profit by Design is a Tap the Potential Production in collaboration with Small Business Consulting Group. Show Highlights: Laura provides an overview of her professional background. Laura reveals how she determines the needs of her audience. Why business owners should always be willing to hire a freelancer as an option. Freelancers do not have to disrupt your traditional workflow or your in-house payroll employees. How to strike a balance between your freelancers and employees. Tips for bringing in freelancers that are a great fit for your team. How do you know if you should outsource? Laura gives examples of potential freelancing roles. Dr. Sabrina's challenge: What can you take off your plate that will free up 5-10 of your hours per week? Are YOU ready to take YOUR life back from your business? Download Laura's FREE guide, 70+ Tasks You Can Outsource to a VA, and don't forget to download Dr. Sabrina's FREE Chart of $10,000 an Hour Activities!   Connect with Laura: On her website, LinkedIn, or Instagram Links and Resources: New! Now Available!! The 4 Week Vacation™ book with bonuses! Download Dr. Sabrina's Introductory Training: How to Make Your Time Worth $10,000 an Hour Join Dr. Sabrina in our Entrepreneurs Take Your Life Back! Community

Every doctor is concerned about your vital signs, but a good doctor cares about your overall health. Your website deserves the same care, and Hey Check It is here to help- Hey Check It is a website performance monitoring and optimization tool- Goes beyond just core web vitals to give you a full picture on how to optimize your website to give your users an optimal, happy experience- Includes AI-generated SEO data, accessibility scanning and site speed checks with suggestions on how to optimize, spelling and grammar checking, custom sitemaps, and a number of various tools to help youStart a free trial today at heycheckit.comMichele Hansen Hey, Colleen, Colleen Schnettlergood morning, Michelle.Michele Hansen  0:45  How are you?Colleen Schnettler  0:47  I'm doing great. How are you?Michele Hansen  0:49  I am I'm working working through stuff.Colleen Schnettler  0:52  Okay, can I start with the funny story? Sure. Our listeners. Okay. So if you listen to our podcast about Michelle's burnout, you might remember that I suggested some very dramatic things, like quit your job or move to a different country. So the next morning, Michelle texted me and told me she went for a walk. I made me laugh, because I was like, yes, you know, that's a good first step going for a walk.Michele Hansen  1:22  Yes, I actually, I did go for a walk that day, because it was sunny for once in Scandinavia in the wintertime. So you got to take advantage of that. So yeah, so I, I just want to start by saying I like I've gotten so much support from so many people and so many stories from people about their burnout, or their spouses burnout, or just feeling really, really supported and appreciating it. So much. How much other people have been sharing with me and how vulnerable they have been with me. It's been, it's been kind of amazing, I guess I didn't really know what to expect, going going into it, like recorded that episode. And I was kind of like, ah, like, I don't have any advice for people like is, right, is that going to be like useful for people. And it turns out, I guess, sort of just feeling seen, and knowing that other people go through it was helpful. And I think for me, like, just saying, like, sort of raising my hand and saying I have a problem, like, for me is often the first step in getting through it. Like, absolutely, um, so so that was really helpful for me. And just being open about it, and then all of the support from people. As has kind of given me like a little bit of motion on it. I mean, so many people reached out to me offering to, like, have a phone call or something about it. And, um, I haven't taken anyone, because, like, I don't have enough time. But I really appreciate it. And I'm just kind of like, I don't know, I'm like marinating and everyone's stories, like, like, I kind of feel like, I don't know if you ever do this, but like, you know, you get like a steak and then you put it in the fridge with salt on it, and for a couple of days, and then it gets really tender. And I feel like I'm just a piece of steak sitting in the fridge. And like every story and and sort of encouraging word people have sent to me as sort of, you know, their each one little piece of Maldon salt that's just kind of working its way in and tenderizing me and this is a little bit of a weird metaphor, but like people who take their seriously know what I'm talking about. Like, I'm just kind of, you know, I'm sort of like, yeah, I don't know, something marinating is like totally the wrong word for that. But you know, I'm just kind of absorbing, I guess all of that. Okay. Um, that's great. And yes, I have started to try to try to make some changes, but I think something that really helps crystallize for me, in hearing so many stories about burnout was like, there's kind of it feels like there's kind of like two different categories of burnout. There's like, work burnout, and then there's life burnouts. Okay. And work burnout is, you know, that's like your, your burnout from your work situation, right. And then life is like, you know, everything else going on, right? I have life burnout. It turns out and so that has been helpful for me in framing this because then it's kind of like a sort of, like, it feels like sort of like the first direction sign. You know, it's like, do I turn left? Do I turn right? Is it work burnout, is it life burnout, okay, now we know which way to go. Okay. And then that's like a, you know, sort of like another step to go down. like researching how people get through this. So I think that that was really key and helped me start, I think start even just like thinking about changes to make, because it's one, it's like everything possibly that you have going on that you might need to change. Like, that's a little bit overwhelming. But at least knowing which domain to think about is helpful, I think.Colleen Schnettler  5:27  So how do you know it's life burnout and not work burnout, what's the distinguishing characteristics?Michele Hansen  5:32  So I think it's that, you know, for me, like, like, I really enjoy work to the point where, like, you know, most of my life, I have found work easier than life, quite frankly, like, I tend to escape into work or school or, you know, whatever that is. And I think actually, the, the fact that I was like, one of my initial stressors couple weeks ago was like, I don't have enough time to work was not actually a sign that I was burning out from work, it was a sign that I was going into one of my oldest tried and true stress responses, which is trying to disappear into work. And then the fact that I didn't have enough time to do so was stressing me out. And that like that that outlet was not available. So it's not that I didn't have enough time to work. It's that like, I didn't have enough time to neglect the rest of my life and just disappear into work.Colleen Schnettler  6:40  Okay, I understand, I think, did weMichele Hansen  6:43  did we ever talk about like the four archetypes of like, stress and trauma responses, we were talking about that. Okay, so we're talking about that. So there's like four main categories of these. And it's just worth sort of noting and it's like, not any of them are better or worse than others. It's just intended to be descriptive, and like, help you understand how you respond to stressful situations. And so the first one is anger, which is, you know, respond with anger, whether that's verbally or physically, you know, with violence against yourself against other people, against objects, right. And so like, if something really stressful happens, and you really want to punch a pillow, or a punching bag, like anger might be one of your primary stress, or trauma responses, most people are a combination of a couple. The next one is flight, which is you are leaving the situation that can that that can be physically or it can also be sort of mentally, but that often takes the form of workaholism so disappearing into work. Hello, me raising hand. Um, that can be exercise, like, so I was a competitive gymnast growing up. So that's also in the flight response. You know, it can be physically moving places, like, you know, like, when, like, COVID got really bad, I decided to move country. So that is also a flight response. Like, hello, all the bells are going off here. Right? Um, so that's like the flight response. I think especially like, in our community, like, I come across a lot of people with the like, workaholic flight response. And the thing like, is like, though, the thing about flight responses is that like, they can often be sort of extreme versions of healthy behaviors, or like socially rewarded behaviors, which makes them really hard to identify. Because, of course, you should exercise a lot like, oh, like having a good career and being ambitious. Like, that's a good thing. Right? So, like it kind of, yep, but at least you know, everything is bad and extremes, right? You know, even you know, anger is healthy. But having too much of it and hurting other people is not working is you know, we all need to work but like doing it to the point where it's how you deal with life is not there's a freeze response, which is I sort of think of that as the like hiding under a blanket watching Netflix for 12 hours and just being unable to move kind of a response. Like this is a reaction I heard from actually quite a few friends after January 6, they were like I was just like frozen for days. Like, like you just use completely like withdraw. And so maybe that's like, you get home from work and you just play video games for eight hours and you can't do anything else like playing video games is healthy. Everybody loves watching Netflix, including me. Okay, I know that I seem like totally like Little Miss, like Type A overachiever, but I do watch Netflix. Thank you very much. I'm currently rewatching our way through Parks and Rec and it is such a delight. Okay. So there's the freeze response. And then there's also the fawn response, which is basically when things are really bad for you, you go into the mode of like trying to rescue or help other people. And also that you try to like appease other people. So it's very much like the people pleasing response. So fights, flights, freeze, and fawn. Those are these four main stress and trauma responses. And I think it's really helpful to understand those like four main categories, because when we're talking about burnout, like how you experience the burnout seems like, like those kind of those themes come through quite a bit. And also how you deal with burnout is very different. And so like, for me, like, as a sort of person who's sort of primarily in that flight response category, like, for me, trying to all of a sudden start exercising and like signing up for a 10k like, would not actually really be very healthy or productive for me, because that's just furthering myself in that stress response category. And, and like that would just lend itself to more extremism in that same type of thing, if that makes sense. And so that was really how I identified like, this is actually, this is not a work problem, but the existence of me being like, I don't have enough time to work and like feeling stressed about that. And like, wanting to work like this is a sign that I'm falling into one of my, my oldest stress reaction paths. Like that was those that was really helpful for me. Um, and then so kind of taking some time tothink about things and made a couple of like, really small changes you had recommended to me atomic habits, like probably a bunch of times, and it's one of those books, I feel like everybody is like, oh my god, it's so amazing. And like, so then I didn't read it, because like, I felt like I'd read it because of everybody else had told me about it's kind of like, it's not the same way I feel about avatar. Like, I feel like everybody raved about avatar. And then I was like, I feel like I've seen this movie. Everybody's talking about it. Like, can we just please stop talking about this thing? Because like, all I've heard about is this is avatar. I don't know. Did you ever see Avatar? Do you know what I mean?Colleen Schnettler  12:08  I did I know exactly what you mean. I was not impressed. I didn't see it till later till everyone was talking about it. So I agree. By the time I saw it, I was like,Michele Hansen  12:17  so I kind of like had that. I was like, okay, everyone's been raving about atomic habits. Like, you know, I've read so many like blog posts to talk about it. And people do these homework essays. And I like felt like I had the gist of it. Um, but you recommended it. So I was like, Okay, fine. I'll get it. I think I bought it like a couple of months ago. And it was just sitting on my shelf collecting dust. And then we started like, getting kind of like tightening things up a little bit for like, getting ready to put Christmas stuff out. And I like saw it in my pile of books to be read, which, well, there's actually multiple of those piles in my house. But um, I was like, You know what, Colleen recommended that book to me. I should like, I should really read it. And I'm so glad I did. Like I am eating my previous words about No, I was so glad to read it. Kind of interesting, because I feel like you have said how you don't read self help books. But this is totally a self help book. It's like a self help book for people who don't read self help books.Colleen Schnettler  13:12  I know. And that's the only book I've ever recommended to you. It was so good. It's like a self help book. But it's like so practical. Like some of the things you're just like, oh, this is like a practical thing. Like the habit chaining is so obvious in retrospect, but like, had never occurred to me how I could, you know, change the habit chaining and the identity stuff I really enjoyed too. So I'm glad that I'm glad that you're Are you finished? Did you read? Oh,Michele Hansen  13:37  yeah. Yeah, I finished it today. I'm glad you enjoy me when I sink my teeth into a book. I finished it in like three days. Like, yeah, you just read it. I just Yeah, I just Yeah. So um, so one thing that I really enjoyed from it was this. And I'm going to see if I can find the exact phrasing here. He has his I think it's action versus motion.Colleen Schnettler  14:02  Yeah, I think I remember that. Yeah. And actually,Michele Hansen  14:04  I thought of you as I was reading that. So let me just find the exact. You're like, oh, I have done it. I'mColleen Schnettler  14:10  like, so excited. Well, I read it. It's one of those books that I actually like, bought on Kindle and then bought the freaking book because I liked it so much.Michele Hansen  14:17  Oh my god. So I'm reading another book on burnout. It's called what is it called by yourself? The effing lilies, which is like, yeah, no, that's actually a title. And it's like so is this woman like talking about her her path through burnout and her like her burnout is very different. Like the beginning of the book, like starts with her, like, you know, waking up hungover after her 25th birthday and like, kind of, you know, she's smoking too much and going out too much and like drunk dialing her therapist and I'm like, Okay, we're in very different parts of our lives and like I had a two year old at that point in my life and was definitely not doing that. But I think her her ways of going through are actually really similar. Like her tactics like They both like both her and James clear want you to journal and I'm like, I don't journal. I know, your journal this morning pages thing. I'm like maybe like I bought my journal, I don't know. But anyway, it's actually been really good, but I was reading it on Kindle and I was like, I need the paper version of this book so I can like highlight it. So. Okay, so James clear on motion versus action from atomic habits. So, quote, I refer to this as the difference between being in motion and taking action. The two ideas sound similar, but they're not the same. When you're in motion, you're planning and strategizing, and learning. Those are all good things, but they don't produce a result. Action, on the other hand, is the type of behavior that will deliver an outcome. If I outlined 20 ideas for articles I want to write that's motion. If I actually sit down and write an article, that's action. So attendees, yeah, sometimes motion is useful, but it will never produce an outcome by itself. It doesn't matter how many times you talk to the personal trainer, that motion itself will never get you in shape. So I think like as I was thinking about this, and he has a really great story in here, too, about like photography students, and how there was this professor who said, Okay, this group, you have to take as many pictures as possible by the end of the semester, and your grade is based on how many pictures you take. And this other group is you only have to take one perfect picture and turn that in the end of the semester. And the group that produced the best work was the group that just produced a ton of pictures, because they just kept doing things like they were constantly in action of doing things. And as you know, as I say, as somebody who feels like they have been marinating for the past two weeks, and you know, covered in salt,Colleen Schnettler  16:50  salt.Michele Hansen  16:54  I'm, like, I actually, so I was like you don't I have to start doing this as I read this book, because I can't just like wait until I'm done to start doing and I think this is what I really liked about this book is it's like, do a really small thing, if, you know, we talked about how, like I have allowed my physical health to deteriorate with all this. And it's like, okay, it's not I want to start working out or I want to work or join a gym or whatever that is, it's like, you have to switch the identity, as you mentioned from I want to start doing this to I am someone who does this. And then how can you do really small things every day, that prove to yourself that you do that, so that you build that identity. So he's like, just do a two minute habit, every day of whatever that thing is. But then also do the thing that you really uniquely enjoy and is easy for you that isn't for other people. And so for me, that was like, Okay, it's not that, like I want to start working out again, it's like, so that identity should have to do has to be I am a fit person, I guess. Or like I am a person who works out every day. And then so like I you know, I did a handstand for like, two minutes earlier today. And like, that's something that's very easy and fun for me, but makes me feel like oh, yeah, I guess I did some sort of workout today, even if it was really short. Um, so I've like started on these little habits. And I feel like I'm probably still in burnout. But at least now I'm doing things. You know, like, it just sort of got me it was reading atomic habits really helped me kind of like, okay, what are like small things I can do. As he says that, they're not going to make me 100% better, they're not going to take me from burnout to not burn out or whatever the opposite of burnout is. But they're going to make me 1% better. So like doing a handstand that makes me 1% better. That really probably only applies to me, you know, and everybody else that's going to be something different. Um, I've also started like plugging in my phone after dinner, downstairs in the office and making it unavailable so that I can't end up like aimlessly like scrolling Twitter or Instagram or whatever, like later on at night and like staying up too late at night. Um, my phone is still accessible to me, but it's downstairs in the office and stays plugged in. Like because I don't need it as an alarm clock because we got one of those like, Sun lamps that like wakes you up with sunlight because you know, hashtag Scandinavian winter you don't have this problem in California. We don't have enough IColleen Schnettler  19:37  don't wake up without an alarm. Because there's so much sunlight. ThatMichele Hansen  19:41  sounds just lovely. Um, yes, we get, you know, just a little sprinkling of sunlight if that a day. Sometimes it's just gray. So I also got better D vitamins. Apparently they're more effective if you take vitamin K too with them or something and not better medical advice. That's just what I read on the internet. So I started doing that, too. I'm just like, you know, lots of little things. Um, I also like I got permission from my, my Danish school to only go into the class once a week and do self study at home the other day of the week. Ooh, that sounds like a big one. Yeah, so like, I was really nervous to talk to the head, the head of the school. And that's also something that like, you know, for anyone else, listening who's going through burnout, like, you're probably not feeling burned out with Danish school being a contributor to it, if you are, though, seriously, reach out to me, because we probably want to comment. Um, but yeah, just like reducing that to like, one day a week. And I was, like, Look, I've proven that I'm a good student, like, it's so much easier for me to like, if this is a six hour or five, six hour class, like, I would rather do one hour, every night. And I have my eight year old correct my spelling and pronunciation, like what she loves, then, like, have to be here in a class all day, like it just for my schedule, like, then I have four days, one day of class, and, and decided that I'm going to book a massage for myself after I go to the class to nice, um, which is, I think something else from atomic habits is like, if you have to do something you don't enjoy, like, schedule in a reward afterwards, so you know, and it took me like, a lot of research to actually like, find like to get a massage, because when you're, I don't know, expat, or in a new place. Like, everything is just, you know, you don't have those go twos for anything. So I'm just trying to make and that's not like a huge difference, because I was like, What should I drop out of that? Like, you know, like, do I take all these things? And do I get rid of them, right, like, and you know, because some people are, like, I was burned out. And so I went to Bali for three months. And then like, that sounds like it really worked for you. And it was awesome. And sitting on a beach for three months. Sounds amazing. But like, I have a family, I have a life like I like I like that's just that's just not an option for me. Um, and so there were some people I was kind of, like, DMing, with who were kind of like, you know, here's how I worked through it. Like, I didn't quit my job, like I, you know, I didn't move I didn't, you know, change anything about my life. I just kind of got through it with the existing structure of my life, that was really helpful for me to hear that, like, you don't have to just kind of walk away from everything in your life in order to burnout because, like, especially like, I feel like you read like burnout stories from like, for lack of a better way of putting it like San Francisco types that's like, I, you know, sold my company quit my job, and like, you know, lived in a camper van for six months. And I'm like, That's awesome. That That sounds like that was amazing, and helped you. That's just not my life. Like, I just like, That also sounds like flight response to me, which as we have discussed, probably not something I should do more, I need to do like, a moderate, like moderate things like going for a walk and yeah, getting sunlight. And, you know, kind of pulling back on things where I can and also like, recognizing, like, when am I falling into patterns that are not good for me and and whether that's like big things like throwing myself way too much into work or like small things like being on my phone way too much. I haven't done the habit inventory that I read a long time ago, I haven't done that. It's like you have to like list out all of the habits that you do and whether they're a good habit, a neutral habit or a negative one. So like, for me, like a bad habit is like waking up in the morning and, you know, checking my email and Twitter and intercom and everything else for like 20 minutes before I get out of bed. That was a bad habit. Like, maybe for some people, it's neutral. But like for me, like that was kind of just like the note I started my day out on. And it's probably better for my mental health. If I start the day with like five minutes of like, cuddling with my dog, right, like, right, that's probably much better than seeing, you know, whatever is waiting for me in my inbox. And so it's like going through all of those, um, I had kind of like, that feels this feels like a slippery slope into journaling. SoColleen Schnettler  24:41  I mean, I cannot get I can't get soMichele Hansen  24:43  resistant to journaling.Colleen Schnettler  24:46  Like our job is in my nightstand. Like by my bed. I have like eight journals. They all have like three pages filled in. Because every year I'm like, Oh, this is the year I'm going to start journaling. Yeah, I've just accepted that about myself that it's just not my jam. I loveMichele Hansen  25:02  buying journals. And I know they're like, especially like the rifle paper ones like I'm a little bit obsessed.Colleen Schnettler  25:09  Really nice but not Yeah,Michele Hansen  25:12  so I but of course I have bought more journals and I don't have any morning pages thing like if there's anybody listening who does morning pages, which is the thing it's like you're supposed to like write when you wake up in the morning, you're supposed to write three pages. Now James clear is like, you should just write a sentence or like just write like anything and mourning pages is like you get up write three pages. Is there anyone with kids? Who does that? And like, how do you fit it into your life, like, and some people like to wake up at 530. And that's what I turned on them. Like, again, that sounds lovely. But like, every hour of sleep, I can get like, I'm going to take it like I am not going to like get up at 530 and light a candle and do yoga and don't like I'm sorry, that is just not me.Colleen Schnettler  26:01  What is the benefit? What is the purported benefit of these morning pages?Michele Hansen  26:04  So the by the I think Lily's book talks a lot about, okay, um, which is that it's sort of like a space to completely let your mind empty out. And it's kind of, you know, you know, how I talked about, like, customer interviews are where you're just there to listen to them without any judgement, and whatever they want to say, you know, you know, sort of on the topic, you know, is welcome, and you're not, you're just not judging anything they say, and it's just about their experience, and you're kind of you're holding space for them. And their experience is basically like doing that for yourself. Oh, my God, I have to do this. I can't like preach that you should do that to other people. And then not even. And that self empathy is important than than not hold space for myself. Goddamnit Ah,Colleen Schnettler  26:56  let me know how it goes. I probably don'tMichele Hansen  26:57  want to turn it. Well, I have to wait at least like a week or a week and a half for all these pretty new journals. I ordered to arrive. Right, right.Colleen Schnettler  27:06  Yeah, right. Yeah. Like,Michele Hansen  27:08  yeah, report, and then I'm going away for Christmas. So like, realistically? Oh, my goodness. Yeah.Colleen Schnettler  27:16  So Okay, but seriously,Michele Hansen  27:18  if you journal, and you're listening, and you have to somehow make this work in your life, like, I want to know, like details. Not that like I do it every day. Like when, like, how do you fit in? Yes, I need specifics and logistics and details. Okay, sorry. You're gonna say something galling.Colleen Schnettler  27:35  Okay, so let's go back to this and your burnout. So all of the stories, the majority of the stories I have heard are also those I couldn't work for six months after burnout. So do you feel with with the small steps that you're taking to try and kind of recover from burnout within the construct of your life? How are you feeling? It's been what, two weeks? I mean,Michele Hansen  27:57  yeah, I still feel like I'm just kind of, I still feel like I'm in it. I feel like I have a little bit of motion because of the book. Okay, but, um, I don't know, I still feel like there's a lot of stuff that is not working. And you know, like so like that founder summit thing, for example, like that, that wheel thing we talked about where it's like, you rate your life for, you know, career and spiritual and physical, social emotional, there was like some other category there of like, how your life is going and all those different areas. And it was like, if there's anything below, like a four, you really need to focus on that. So I gave myself you know, I think physical was pretty low. But then also social was pretty low. Like, my family is wonderful. And I love them. I don't have any friends here, though. And like, so I think I also gave that one a pretty low rating, but like, I'm in another country. It's COVID. II, Europe is like terrible with COVID right now, I don't know if you've heard like, so that one almost like I didn't even like, it really occurred to me that I could do something about that. Because it's like, at least like physical it's like, okay, I can like do handstands and like workout every day. But like, I can't, like, go out and somehow, like, have all of my best friends here. Like, right, like, that doesn't really happen. So I think that is part of it. Like not having like a, as much of a support system as I used to, like, you know, can't just roll up to your house and like, hang out, right, like so I think that, that that that's going to be a bigger challenge that I need to work through. I mean, I think the social part is a challenge for a lot of people right now and like not feeling supported, like even if you are in your community like I think just With the pandemic, like so many people are burned out for various reasons. And I think something I have been thinking through, like, why did it get to this point, and I think part of me, like didn't really feel entitled to burnout. You know, like, you're still, you know, knowing people in the medical field, like with everything they have dealt with over the past two years, like, there is serious burnout in the medical field right now. And I think seeing that, and and, you know, being very close to people in that field, who are burned out from that, like, I guess I just, I didn't feel entitled to it. Or like, you know, there's people who scaled companies to like, 1000s of employees and billions of dollars in revenue, and like, they get burned out. And it was like, This feels like something that is for other people. And part of it was like, Yes, I'm special. It's not gonna happen to me, but also part of that feeling was, Who am I to think that I get to say that I'm feeling this way? Right? Like, does that make sense? Like, is this a feeling I am entitled to is this like, like, have I earned this title of being burned out? Which is kind of a ridiculous thing to say, now that I've actually verbalized it. But yeah, I think that was contributing to it too, because I kept denying that it was going on, because I didn't feel like I deserved it. Interesting. And so I think kind of the last two weeks has been really important for me, and that not only accepting that I have burnout, but also accepting thatColleen Schnettler  31:32  it'sMichele Hansen  31:35  it's something that I'm allowed to feel or allowed to describe myself as I guess, if that makes any sense. I think that's when it makes total sense. Sort of. Yeah. Yeah.Colleen Schnettler  31:46  It's like, and I think that's, you know, that goes to a lot of other things. But like, You were absolutely entitled, you have, you know, to feel to feel that and to have your own problems. It's kind of like when your kid breaks his arm. Are you supposed to say Oh, it's fine, because other kids have cancer? Right? Like it's, it's Yeah, cuz daddy upset because your kid broke his arm, like it's, it's, it's relative. Sure. And it helps you keep it in perspective. But again, it is still a very real and very pressing problem.Michele Hansen  32:14  I heard this very, in articulately if amusingly phrased once as someone else's suck does not make your suck, suck any less.Colleen Schnettler  32:25  That's terrible. But yes, exactly.Michele Hansen  32:28  Right. All problems are valid.Colleen Schnettler  32:31  And all problems are valid. Yeah, see, we can again, but yeah, absolutely real, and you're feeling it? And you're in it?Michele Hansen  32:39  Yeah. So I think that's the, I guess that's kind of how I'm feeling. I still, I still feel like a steak sitting in the fridge covered in salt. Just kind of kind of absorbing and tenderizing and whatnot. But I think atomic habits is like, it's helping me with it just just kind of giving I think the idea that I you know, I tend to do think everything like, you know, totally balls to the wall, right? Like the idea of doing something and doing it 1% better. Like I tend to do things like okay, how do I do this is like significantly better. And that was also part of that activity. We did it founder Summit, it wasn't trying to go from two to 10. In the next 90 days, it's tried to go to two to four. Right? Like, how do you get slightly marginally better? And I guess allowing myself to adjust my expectations down and say, and it just give me like ideas of okay, what can I What are little things I can do 1% Better that are, you know, are gonna are going to help me through this.Colleen Schnettler  33:56  Okay, yeah, great. Sounds like a good, a good way to approach it with everything you have going on. Yeah, I'veMichele Hansen  34:03  gotten a ton of other book recommendations, but haven't gotten to any of them except this one. So I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna keep reading. But again, you know, I think talking about that motion versus action, like, it's important that I don't just like sit here and read and write, don't be stressed out and still be burned out. Like, I need to do stuff and just do lots of stuff. And maybe some of its gonna work and maybe some of it isn't, but it's all, you know, action. It's all, you know, maybe helping, it's better than nothing. So and I think that applies a lot to like, business. I just feel like it's really similar to the situation you were in a year and a half ago, where you were just reading about starting a software company and reading and researching and talking to people but not doing a lot of action on doingColleen Schnettler  34:56  it. That park that part have the book really spoke to me and I think I don't regret the path I took at all. Because even though when I finally when I launched something I kind of did it wrong, because I just launched it to launch it that motion or wait, that would be action. That was that was me moving from motion to action. And it was awesome. So I mean for me that I totally agree. And I love that, that distinction he makes between motion and action.Michele Hansen  35:24  Did you read atomic habits around that time that you made that mental shift?Colleen Schnettler  35:28  Maybe? I mean, I read it a couple years ago, so it might that that might have been part of it. Yeah, that might have been then. Interesting.Michele Hansen  35:41  Well, I think that will wrap us up for today. I will continue working on these these 1% habits andif anyone journals or also if you've used atomic habits to you know get through burnout or stress. Definitely would love to talk to you. Thanks for listening

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Steven Lee joined us on this week's episode — over heavily poured tinto de veranos — and we can't wait for you to pop this goodness into your earbuds. Steven is a freelance fashion & commercial photographer based in LA, and his colorful style is a freakin' dream.  (Add on the fact that he's a longtime listener of Per Our Last Email, and, like… we're obsessed

There's so many creatives leaving traditional office jobs or doing more independent design and I thought it would be great to share some things we wish we knew when we started our own design businesses. Lauren Gonzalez from 4theCreatives is joining me we can't wait to share what we have learned and hopefully save you some unexpected surprises when going out on your own!You can find Lauren's YouTube Channel here!Something I've been unusually inspired by is…Children's, Youth, and Young Adult Book cover illustrations from the books "Land of Stories" by Chris Colfer"The Magical Misfits" by Neil Patrick Harris"Dragonwatch" by Brandon Mull "Keeper of the Lost Cities" by Shannon Messenger  Musical Inspiration this week is:"His Favorite Christmas Story" by Capital Lights---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PLEASE LEAVE A REVIEW on iTunes!or send us a note on instagram @designspeakspodcast if you love this show!---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------You can find show notes and past episodes at DesignSpeaksPodcast.com or even more at BrandiSea.com Design Speaks  is produced by Kenneth Kniffin and Dakota Cook. Shoutout to Colin from Vesperteen for our theme music. Design Speaks Podcast is a project of BrandiSea Design Co. and is recorded in the shadow of the watermelon pink Sandia Mountains near Albuquerque, New Mexico. As always, I'm BrandiSea, reminding you that you CAN take control of your creativity. Thanks for listening!Support the show (https://buymeacoffee.com/BrandiSea)

In this episode, I interview freelancing expert Micala Quinn. Freelancing is one of my favorite ways to help you gain experience in a new role while earning income which can be a great stepping stone into a full-time career or even become a full-time career itself. Micala Quinn is a Kansas City mom, wife, former teacher, and current CEO solving the modern working mom dilemma. Listen to our interview as Micala talks about the top roles in freelancing for teachers.Read the transcript!Check out Micala's Freelance Starter Kit!TAKE THE FREE QUIZ: What career outside of the classroom are you qualified for? Join our community:Connect with Daphne on Instagram @teachercareercoachSUBSCRIBE AND REVIEW:Don't forget to subscribe to this podcast so you don't miss an episode! If you would be kind enough to support The Teacher Career Coach Podcast, leaving a rating and review would be very appreciated. By leaving a review, you are helping other teachers looking for support to find this community as well. Click here to leave a review. Would you make a great guest for The Teacher Career Coach Podcast? Let us know! If you're a former teacher, click here! If you're a burnout specialist, career coach, or other specialist that would be a good fit for this audience, click here! 

It's no secret that traditional 9-to-5s are anything but accommodating for neurodivergent individuals who don't work or think like the masses. Mercedes Mansilla has proven that not only can individuals with ADHD thrive in a freelancing setting, but they can also tailor their schedule in a way that works for them. As a Fiverr PRO seller and writer, Mercedes has also proven that freelancing can work from anywhere in the world, as she lives in Argentina and speaks English as a second language. If you can dream it, Mercedes has proven anything is possible. To check out her Fiverr profile, visit: https://www.fiverr.com/mercedes1992. To follow her on Instagram, visit: https://www.instagram.com/mechimansilla/. Want to join a community of freelancers? Receive free feedback on your Fiverr gigs and services? Join my group "Freelancing Mentorship with Alexandra Fasulo:" https://www.facebook.com/groups/3715810965116993.About Alexandra Fasulo Alexandra Fasulo 'the Freelance Fairy' is a Fiverr millionaire, Fiverr PRO copywriter, and host of the Freelance Fairytales podcast. She is a recognized gig economist, CNBC Make It financial independence success story, and mentor to millions of people looking to break into freelancing. Alex's website: https://alexfasulo.com/.

Lauren Gonzales from 4theCreatives is joining me and we'll be talking about the things we wish we knew when we started our design businesses!Use this link for the $100 off deal PLUS free dot grid sketchbookhttps://courses.brandisea.com/process-essentials?coupon=LEVELUP100Support the show (https://buymeacoffee.com/BrandiSea)

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