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Apply to Join Churchfront Premium Apply to Join Churchfront Pro Free Worship and Production Toolkit Shop Our Online Courses Join us at the Churchfront Conference Follow Churchfront on Instagram or TikTok: @churchfront Follow on Twitter: @realchurchfront Gear we use to make videos at Churchfront Musicbed SyncID: MB01VWQ69XRQNSN Carey Nieuwhof Interview - Podcast Notes Overview Conversation with Carey Nieuwhof about the shift in modern church worship from entertainment-focused to encounter-focused experiences, live streaming strategy, and church growth in the digital age. Key Themes 1. The Shift: Entertainment vs. Encounter The Problem with Modern Church Production Social media created a "copycat phase" where churches could suddenly see what megachurches were doing Churches adopted same equipment, same songs, same production values What was unique became ubiquitous - "we all became copies of each other" Gen Z is "the most marketed to generation in human history" and numb to production Quote: "Gen Z is the most marketed to generation in human history. And we're all kind of numb to the production. I don't think people are looking for hype. They're looking for hope." What People Actually Want Something real and tangible An experience of God, not just information about God Presence, not just presentation Transformation over information The Internet's Limitation Really good at delivering information (especially with AI) Cannot facilitate an encounter "There's something that happens in the room that doesn't happen online" 2. What "Encounter Over Entertainment" Looks Like The Tonal Shift Worship leaders being more sensitive to what's happening in the room, not just rehearsed transitions Preachers leaving space, not just hitting time marks Paying attention to what God might be doing (people crying, leaning in, visible reactions) Creating space to breathe Silence and Space "When I started in ministry, my goal was to get rid of as much silence in church as I could" Now: "Where else are you going to get silence? You don't get it unless you're in church" Don't have to fill every moment with words Can be silent or "noodle" on instruments while creating space Quote: "People's lives are so noisy and so crowded. I mean, we don't even sleep without white noise machines or anything like that. So where else are you going to get silence?" Evoke vs. Manipulate Can't plan a revival - it happens or it doesn't Job is to "set the table" and make space for the Holy Spirit Example: Great movies evoke genuine tears by accessing real emotions Cheap manipulation feels different Quote: "It's not our job as Christians to manipulate. It's our job possibly to evoke, to say, 'I'm going to set the table. I can't control the Holy Spirit.'" 3. The Liturgy Issue Modern Church is "Liturgically Malnourished" Liturgy = order of service (not an outdated term) Modern church handles joy and praise well Missing: contemplation, confession, lamentation, reflection Lost practices: prayers of confession, prayers of the people Carey's Confession Presbyterian background included prayers of approach and confession As church became attractional, prayer became "just an opportunity to clear the set for the sermon" Regrets thin prayers: "God, it's so good to be here today. We thank you so much. Amen." Quote: "It's like confess your sins to one another and you will be healed. We don't do that anymore. What if we did that?" Not Either/Or, But Both/And Keep good lighting, sound, production, and musicians who can play Add breathing room, texture, color, tone, mood Use liturgical calendar and historic practices adapted to modern context Don't approach Sunday as "slots to fill" Creative Freedom 52 Sundays = 52 blank canvases Already do this well at Easter and Christmas Can be more creative without confusing people Example: Good Friday Service Ended in darkness with no announcement Faded to black and stayed there People sat in uncomfortable silence, then slowly left "I wanted them to feel that discomfort... if you can even get a small sampling of that" Easter Sunday picked up in darkness, then sunrise/resurrection 4. Live Streaming Strategy Who Should Live Stream? Not every church needs to live stream everything Need good musicians to sound great online (around 400-500 attendance to have talent base) Need separate mix for online vs. in-house Poor production = "school play" - only interesting to those directly involved Quote: "A lot of churches, and these are well-meaning, beautiful Christian people. If you don't have the talent in production or in worship, you sound like a school play." Alternatives Stream just the message On-demand after, mixed in post-production Audio only if video isn't good Consider what strangers stumbling on feed would think The Discovery Argument Pre-COVID minority of churches streamed Now "everybody you want to reach is online" "All of non-Christian America, all the nuns, all the duns, all the atheists, all the agnostics, they're on the internet" Can't remember last time truly unchurched person hadn't watched online for weeks/months before visiting The New Foyer Online is now the foyer, not the physical lobby People investigate online before visiting By the time they show up, they're ready to go "further, faster" "They've already done their investigating. They've already asked ChatGPT all the questions" 5. Practical Service Design Handling Growth Pressure Multiple services create pressure to program everything tightly Solution: Trim 5 minutes from sermon Do 60-minute service with breathing room between Create more lobby/connection space Leverage outdoor space (if climate allows) Worship Set Strategy Don't need extended mix of everything Maybe two songs and a tag instead of three full songs "Sit in the tag for a while" Find the high-impact moments (example: bridge of "How Great Is Our God") Get to what matters, like talent shows do 90-second versions Quote: "You don't have to do the extended mix of everything, the seven minute version, do the tag. That would be great. Space is something that you can do in three minutes if you know how to do it well." Service Flow Examples Don't make people stand and greet (where else does that happen?) Have emotionally intelligent people on doors, not just available people Greet people the way THEY want to be greeted Consider kids moments, announcements, communion as natural transitions Call to commitment/involvement comes sooner now than 10 years ago 6. Online Presence Best Practices Website Design Design for new people first Show service times and location prominently (mobile friendly) Staff page is #3 most viewed - people want to see "are there people like me?" Use accurate photos (don't show 27-year-olds if congregation is 70+) Show actual diversity if you have it Quote (Seth Godin): "Culture is people like us do things like this. So what people are looking for, are there people like us?" Content Strategy Lead with best sermons, not just latest Most popular videos should be easy to find People don't care if it's from 2 years ago (still watching The Office) Have robust FAQ section for unchurched questions Position yourself for lost people, not just members 7. The Current Moment The Harvest is Ripe People are seeking more than maybe in past decade or two Culture is saturated with production - not the competitive edge anymore Mental health crisis caused by social media People desperate for something real What to Do Pray for it (spiritual activity) Make newcomer journey easy Take them somewhere when they show up Go deeper faster - they're ready Quote: "People come to church looking to find God, but sometimes all they find is us. They found a really cool song, they found a really great message, but they didn't actually find God in the midst of it." Give Them Meat Reference to Tara-Lee Cobble and The Bible Recap Provide historical context (helps Christians AND non-Christians) Don't be afraid to go deep on sin, gospel, redemption Write/speak in accessible "street Greek" like the New Testament Example Opening: "Hey, we're going back 3000 years. And there was a guy named David who was King of Israel. He was trying to keep the kingdom united because there was a north and a south. You can relate to that. These are divided times..." Quote (Tim Keller): "It's worse than you can possibly imagine and better than you can possibly dream." 8. Leadership Advice For Young Church Staff (25-40) Navigating Frustration with Leadership Write down actual issues you're facing (budget, staffing, expertise) Present respectfully, thoughtfully, submissively Good leaders will either provide resources or adjust priorities Identifying Toxic Culture Unrealistic expectations Unsympathetic to staff needs Expects 60-hour weeks with no life Toxic leader will get mad/defensive when approached Options in Toxic Environment Respectfully approach and share difficulties Accept the glass ceiling and stay Build healthy team within unhealthy body (temporary solution) Leave - "unhealthy bodies drive out healthy cells" Interview Questions for New Positions Ask to talk to current staff (not the pastor) Ask to talk to FORMER staff Find out who left and why Read Google reviews Have meals/experiences together (reveals character under pressure) Quote: "Ask around, ask if you have permission. Don't ask the pastor. Don't ask the pastor. Are you healthy? The toxic people, 'I'm so healthy.'" 9. Team Building & Growth Hiring Philosophy Only hire A players C players: you know immediately (late, unmotivated, incomplete work) - should be gone B players: good but not great - "it's too bad but we'll survive" A players: if they quit you'd need 3 people to replace them Quote (Netflix): "Adequate performance gets you a generous severance package." A Player Test If they knocked on the door saying "this is my last day," how do you react? C player: "Thank goodness, now I don't have to fire them" B player: "Too bad but we'll survive" A player: "Grabbing the waste basket and throwing up" Growth Wisdom Don't settle on staff because you're panicking Will eventually become bloated with no profit Profit = "permission to do this again tomorrow" (Seth Godin) Most businesses fail not from lack of vision but lack of cash Use tools like Working Genius to find right fit Don't just find A players - find A players with gifts your team needs Cultural Values Write them down and review regularly Ritz-Carlton: 26 values, reviewed 2-3 daily in team meetings Use to evaluate: "Where are we winning/losing with our values?" Catch team members exemplifying values Values help instill culture as org chart grows 10. Upcoming Projects Carey's New Book Topic: AI and the Future Church Thesis: "As the world becomes more artificial, we need to become more human as Christians" Church's future direction is human connection Expected publication: 2026 Latest Book "At Your Best" - about time, energy, and priorities Notable Statistics & Data Points 72% of teenagers have tried AI chatbots 31% prefer AI companionship to human companions Pre-COVID: minority of churches streamed services Can't recall single unchurched person who didn't watch online for weeks/months before visiting Around 400-500 attendance: churches start having talent base for good production 80-95% of church growth in America is conversion growth (not transfer) Top 3 website pages: Homepage, Messages, Staff/About Production Quality Basics Good Enough to Stream Great singing (doesn't need to be phenomenal) Decent lights Pretty good mix Can work with church of 150-200 with good coaching Everything else can be helped with technology Bare Minimum Great guitarist + great vocalist = "off to the races" Don't feel pressure to have full mediocre band Add musicians as you find/afford great ones Practical Takeaways Create space in services - silence, breathing room, sensitivity to the room Recover lost liturgical practices - confession, lamentation, contemplation Go deeper faster - people are ready for meat, not just milk Design for online discovery - unchurched people are investigating you Lead with best content - not just latest content Only hire A players - don't panic hire when growing Build real human connection - counter to increasingly artificial world Make newcomer journey easy - they're ready to engage quickly Be creative with 52 Sundays - not just slots to fill Focus on encounter over entertainment - production supports experience, doesn't replace it Questions for Further Reflection How can we create more space for confession in our services? What would it look like to "evoke" rather than "manipulate" in worship? Are we positioning our online presence for unchurched discovery? Is our production supporting encounter or replacing it? What emotions are people carrying into our services, and how do we acknowledge that? Are we moving too fast for the Holy Spirit to work? Memorable Quotes "I don't think people are looking for hype. They're looking for hope." "People aren't looking for more information. They're looking for presence, not just presentation." "The internet is really good at information, especially with AI. You want to know anything, you can find out anything, but the internet can't really facilitate an encounter." "It's not our job as Christians to manipulate. It's our job possibly to evoke." "Where else are you going to get silence? You don't get it unless you're in church." "If you don't have the talent in production or in worship, you sound like a school play." "Everybody you want to reach is online." "Your foyer has moved online." "People come to church looking to find God, but sometimes all they find is us." "As the world becomes more artificial, we need to become more human as Christians." "Adequate performance gets you a generous severance package." "Profit is permission to do this again tomorrow."
This week on The Automotive Truth Podcast With Matt & Irlanne unleash a festive fury over The Christmas Can of Danish Cookies and dives headfirst into the wildest corners of automotive and American life.In Automotive News, he breaks down everything from Pardons Emissions Mod Shop drama to LaFontaine Chevy losing their dealer license. We're matching cars to personalities, exposing the worst gas in the USA, and laughing through stories about mice in engines and a savage new mechanic.Then it's time for God, Guns, Meat & Potatoes, where the conversation turns to how money, rent, and food prices have changed, EBT is back on, no more pennies are being minted, Matt & Irlanne got a rant ready for every headline — plus a few laughs about Muslim meat at Aldi, evil churches, and elderly couples doing it right.Finally, the Automotive Laughs segment keeps things rolling with a new employee, the email from beyond the grave, and Matt's signature sarcasm to close out the week.FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM, FACEBOOK & X @MATTIRLANNEPOLLARD THE AUTOMOTIVE TRUTH @AUTOMOTIVETRUTHMATTIANDIRLANNE@MATTWITHIRLANNEWebsiteautomotivetruthpodcast.comFaithpoints TVFaithpointstv.orgDownload the app onROKU, APPLE TV, ANDROID TV, FIRE TV, IOS APPIf you like to donate to The Automotive Truth Podcast cash app at $irlanne
Moms–do you get stressed by all the family obligations around the holidays but also feel bad telling your mom or mother-in-law ‘no'? This podcast episode is for YOU! This is part 2 of a special 8 part holiday series, devoted to helping moms ditch stressful obligations so that they can focus on the parts of the holidays that mean the most to them. Christmas CAN be the most wonderful time of the year for moms and the kids. This week host Amanda Haro is joined by Ryann Watkin, the host of the Raising Wild Hearts podcast. They talk about: Doing a tradition inventory at the beginning of each holiday season, asking yourself, “Am I doing this for me or for someone else?” and “Does this bring me joy?” Ditching everything that does not bring you joy or that feels too much for you (and letting it be ok that this is different every year) Making new family traditions with your partner Setting boundaries with family members out of love for yourself Letting go of the compare and despair game. Amanda does Christmas in a different way than Ryann, and BOTH are correct. What do you want to say f*ck it to this holiday season? Let us know in the review section of Apple podcasts or the comment section of Spotify to be entered to win a special gift from Santa
Merry F*ck It Christmas, mamas! This is part 1 of a special 9 part holiday series, devoted to helping moms ditch stressful obligations so that they can focus on the parts of the holidays that mean the most to them. Christmas CAN be the most wonderful time of the year for moms and the kids. Host Amanda Haro is joined by Julia Hoffman as they dive into the intricacies of holidays after divorce. How can parents work together to create holiday magic for their kids now that they live in separate households? What's the holiday schedule going to look like? How can you refocus when their other parent drops the ball? Amanda and Julia share from their own personal experience of co-parenting after divorce, including: How to figure out holiday child placement schedule in a peaceful way How to stay focused on the kids instead of getting distracted arguing with their other parent Letting go after you've been the primary magic maker of your family Can Christmas be any other day or is it only on the 25th? Figuring out presents The Santa aspect (whose house does the big man stop at?) Christmas and grief Blending families The first holiday without your kids Connect with Julia Hoffman, co-parenting coach, here. Follow Amanda Haro on Instagram and YouTube. Time Stamps: 0:00 Intro 3:35 2024 election 6:27 Life is not stable but Christmas is 10:51 Kids outgrowing Santa 16:00 F*ck you, I'm Santa 19:35 Releasing your co-parent to be who they are 24:53 Navigating holiday traditions post divorce 37:59 Balancing holiday responsibilities as co-parents 42:21 Christmas reality vs expectations 58:16 First Christmas after separating; blending families 1:01:53 First time being alone on the holidays 1:06:56 Lightening questions
Christmas In a Box As the snow began to quietly début winter's arrival, I made my yearly descent to the basement. Rummaging through the backwaters of the musty root cellar, I spied the dusty stack of aged boxes with the word “Christmas” hastily scrawled across their cardboard sides. Inside of them lay the wonder of Christmas embodied in carefully crafted decorations and precious mementos of all sizes and sorts and types. Staring at the boxes, I suddenly found myself entirely engulfed by the horrifying fact that we spend much of our lives boxing up wonder. The Abuse of Boxes Indeed, we put things in boxes. The function of a box is to provide a set of distinct parameters designed to effectively contain whatever needs containing. A box imposes restrictions. It sets a limit as to how far something can go. Things are assigned a defined space where they are on hold, typically because we have no use for them in the active part of our daily existence. Therefore, they're stored away until our existence grants them whatever tiny bit of space they are granted for however long our existence grants it. We put things in boxes. Boxes of Heart, Mind and Soul But the majority of our boxes are not made of cardboard, or plastic, or metal, or any other such rudimentary substances. Our boxes are not those things stored in the shadowy corners of our damp basements, or shoved into the tight confines of our suffocating attics, or crammed into the five-by ten of some self-storage on the other side of town. These do not represent the vast majority of our boxes…at all. The majority of our boxes won't be found in basements, or attics, or some self-storage facility. They are, in fact, within us. Deep within us. And we have made them. We've tediously constructed them to protect ourselves from painful histories, or shut down truths that don't set well with us, or eliminate the people in our lives who we find distasteful. We build them to shield ourselves from ourselves (in whatever way that we feel we need to do that). We build them to keep ourselves from the guilt of doing or being what we shouldn't be doing or being. We build boxes so that we contain those things that we would otherwise be running from, or we build them to give us a ready excuse not to run ‘to' the things that maybe we should be running to. We put things in boxes. Why Boxes? Some boxes might make sense. “But why,” I asked, “do we put great things in boxes?” Powerful things? Things that can handily rescue us from the tangled messes that we make with such tedious perfection? Why do we box up that which can heal our deepest wounds, wrestle our worst addictions into submission, grant us a sustainable hope that will stand against the most sustained darkness of a world gone dark? What in the world would behoove us to box up the very things that can handily reign in all of the destructive things that we've cut loose that are constantly cutting us up? What sort of insanity compels us to box up the very things that we spend the entirety of our lives searching for? We are a stubborn bunch of people. But that's the message of Christmas that's tough to swallow, and that's the very thing that prompted the delivery of that message. That we are stubborn to our own demise. That we would be ‘the death of us' unless God was willing to come and give ‘life to us.' That the enemy is not necessarily something that's prowling around in the shifting shadows that constantly circle us in some stealthy manner. Rather, that we are the enemy and that it is from ourselves that we need to be saved. That is the message embodied in the boxes tucked away in the musty confines of the root cellar with the word “Christmas” errantly scrawled across them. That is the intent of Christmas. That God decided to initiate the greatest rescue mission in all of human history at the greatest cost that any mission would ever demand…the death of His own Son. Boxing Up Christmas Despite the sour rhetoric of our times and the efforts of so many to massage us into complacent ignorance, this is the message that we as a culture have placed, pressed and imprisoned in boxes built by self-serving philosophies, special interest groups gone rogue, and platforms born of greed and power. This is the message that we find so aversive and chafing. It is our single salvation, but we box it up anyway. It is the only light in the darkness that we have foolishly come to call light. It is the only thing big enough to be able to course the turbulent seas of our times and throw us the lifeline that we refuse as we wait for other promised lifelines that never come. This is what we box up. And such an action is ignorance of the greatest sort that will insure a death of the most painful sort. We must take Christmas out of the cultural boxes into which we have thoughtlessly crammed it. We must free it of the confines of our stupidity, we must release if from the filthy hands of our greed that shaped each box, and it must be freed of the bane of special interests that attempt to seal these boxes tight. And once we've done all of that, we must burn every box to ash and cinders. Christmas Can't Be Boxed Yet, the oddity of it all is that we really can't keep Christmas in a box anyway. We might ignorantly presume such power, but it is only an assumption and nothing more. Despite our most robust efforts to ignore it, deny it, render it a fairy-tale, play it off as the invention of misty-eyed dreamers, and press it far off of the edges of a blind culture, Christmas remains what it is. It will forever remain the only rescue mission that set out with enough power to actually rescue us. No matter the propaganda and hype that we grant them, all other missions will fail…miserably. And I would hate to meet my own death realizing that I was ignorant enough to box up the only thing that could have saved me. When Christmas has concluded and the celebrations have stilled, when the songs have fallen silent and the parties have ceased, leave Christmas out of the box that you can't put it in anyway. Let it be what nothing else can be. Let it rescue you, your family, your children, your marriage, your community, and your world. And I don't believe that any of us want to put in any box anything that has the power to do that. Resources for Your Holiday Celebrations Discover an array of holiday resources designed to enhance your celebrations on our website at www.craiglpc.com. Craig's thoughtful, timely, and inspirational books make lasting gifts. Discover all of his books at Amazon. com, Barnes and Noble, or wherever books are sold. Also, take a moment to explore Craig's Public Speaking Resources for information regarding the resources available to your business, ministry, or organization.
Have you ever lost the wonder of Christmas? How about the wonder of life? Many of us over 30 have probably lost it at one time or another—maybe it's still lost. Truth be told, the wonder of Christmas is the magic of Christmas. It's the hope and peace of not only Christmas, but of life. The good news is it's not difficult to get back. Listen and you will see just how easy it is.The song we use in this episode is "Christmas Can't Be Very Far Away" by Amy Grant. We don't own any rights.Contact usLinktree: www.Linktr.ee/HappyLifeStudiosEmail: Podcast@HappyLife.StudioYo Stevo Hotline: (425) 200-HAYS (4297)Webpage: www.HappyLife.lol YouTube: www.YouTube.com/StevoHaysTikTok: www.tiktok.com/@happylifestudiosFacebook: www.Facebook.com/HappyLifeStudios Instagram: www.Instagram.com/HappyLife_Studios Twitter: www.Twitter.com/HappyLifStudios If you would like to help us spread the HappyPayPal: www.PayPal.me/StevoHaysCash App: $HappyLifeStudiosZelle: StevoHays@gmail.comVenmo: @StevoHaysBuy Me A Coffee: buymeacoffee.com/HappyLifeStudioCheck: Payable to Hays Ministries or Steve Hays and send to PO Box 102 Maple Valley, WA 98038
Yes, Christmas is over, but before you move on, there are a couple thoughts you need to take in. Especially if you want your Happy Holidays to turn into a Happy New Year. Life is about seasons. Happy life is about the transitions between them. If we want to have a Happy New Year and keep it all year long, it needs to start now. We need to prepare before it gets here. If you are interested in Happy Life Coaching go to www.HappyLife.lol and click the coaching tab and receive 2 free weeks when you sign up.The songs we use in this episode are "Christmas Is Coming" by The Muppets, "Christmas Can't Be Very Far Away" by Amy Grant and "Christmas Time Is Here" by John Legend. We don't own the rights to any.Contact usLinktree: www.Linktr.ee/HappyLifeStudiosEmail: Podcast@HappyLife.StudioYo Stevo Hotline: (425) 200-HAYS (4297)Webpage: www.HappyLife.lol Facebook: www.Facebook.com/HappyLifeStudios Instagram: www.Instagram.com/HappyLife_Studios Twitter: www.Twitter.com/HappyLifStudios YouTube: www.YouTube.com/StevoHaysIf you would like to help us spread the HappyPayPal: www.PayPal.me/StevoHaysCash App: $HappyLifeStudiosZelle: StevoHays@gmail.comVenmo: @StevoHaysCheck: Payable to Hays Ministries or Steve Hays and send to PO Box 102 Maple Valley, WA 98038
What would you give to have peace at Christmas? Can you even have peace that lasts more than a night?
Hello boys and girls! Are you starting to get excited for the coming of Christmas? Are you starting to get ready for the holidays? How about your moms and dads? Are they starting to get things ready for Christmas?There’s always a lot of things to do to get ready for Christmas. There’s housecleaning, presents to buy, gifts to wrap, concerts and parties to go to, preparing for company. Are you helping your parents get ready for Christmas? Can you imagine how much preparation your parents would do if someone REALLY important was coming to visit—someone like a king or queen? Well, the passage from Matthew 3:1-12 is about preparing for the coming of someone REALLY important. Can you guess who that person is? It’s Jesus!Before Jesus began his ministry, there was someone who prepared the people for His coming. That person was John the Baptist. Let me tell you a little about him and how he prepared the people for Jesus.
In this last show of 2013 Paul looks at what does the Word of God say about celebrating Christmas- Can a Christian celebrate Christmas in their home according to the Word of God- Should the church celebrate Christmas- How and what should we think about the worship of God---We have no superstitious regard for times and seasons. Certainly we do not believe in the present ecclesiastical arrangement called Christmas- first, because we do not believe in the mass at all, but abhor it, whether it be said or sung in Latin or in English- and, secondly, because we find no Scriptural warrant whatever for observing any day as the birthday of the Savior- and, consequently, its observance is a superstition, because not of divine authority.- -C.H. Spurgeon--The Popish holy-days ought not to be observed, because they are not appointed in the Word- and, by the same reason, no other holy-days may be kept, whatsoever pretence there be of devotion towards God, when there is no precept or example for such practice in the holy scripture.---Thomas Vincent -1634-1678---There is no day commanded in Scripture to keep holy under the gospel but the Lord's day, which is the Christian Sabbath. Festival days vulgarly called Holy-Days, having no warrant in the Word of God, are not to be continued---Westminster Assembly, The Directory for the Publick Worship of God, 1645
Duck for cover and cover yourself in ducks, because for the second time it's raining Josh!In a show conceived and performed through a fug of winter illness, Josh and Ben attempt to set the world's wrongs right. Given the season, we've laid the debate table with a feast of good topics and even better metaphors. Can you take the Christ out of Christmas? Can you paint with all the colours of the wind? Is jelly to be encouraged? Nothing escape the coruscating gaze of our two host.Plus two Christmas songs, one that you probably won't have heard on the radio and one that you definitely won't have heard on the radio (because Ben wrote it)https://ia801508.us.archive.org/0/items/IRBPJosh2/IRBP%20-%20Josh%202.mp3