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The end of 2019 has arrived. Let's recap Path of Exile through 2019 and end with a bang! Giveaway information:Twitter Tweet to RetweetReddit Post for Episode 6Join the party! Check out our website for more episodes and be sure to follow us on Twitter.www.foreverexiled.comTwitter @ForeverExiled82Path of Exile WebsiteWrecker of Days Builds ListFull Transcript of Episode:Justin: Welcome to forever Exiled. The Path of Exile podcast. This is technically Episode six, but it's going to be our bonus. New Year's Eve and Day episode. I am one of your host, Justin a k a. TagzTyler: and I'm Tyler Wrecker of Days.Justin: Make sure you check out the rest of this episode right up until the end because we may have a sexy giveaway coming up anyway. Ty, how are you doing? Well, how are you? Good. So this is gonna be our our extra bonus for fun. Super awesome. Episode six I agree. So, uh, path of exile G just released today their best of 2019 video, which was awesome. If you haven't checked it out, make sure you watch it. Maybe we'll put a link in the show notes just so you can find it. I think they're coming up with some more information on there. Accomplishments and bragging tomorrow, which is New Year's Eve will be tomorrow. So hopefully will be out there and live with everybody at the same time. So, yeah, let's let's ah, let's jump into it. So we figured it'd be kind of fun to look back a year at what grinding gear games development plan for 2019 was and assuming like we will continue this for the next 15 or 16 years, we'll be able to do this. We'll be able to do this at the end of each year and kind of see what was announced the previous year and sort of where things went from there. So we've got the development plan for 2019 from grinding gear games last year. 2019. Here's what they say. 2019 will see the release of four significant Path of Exile updates in the form of 3.6 and March 3.7 in June, 3.8 in September and 3.9 in December. These releases will follow the formula we have been using over the last few years, introducing a challenge league, various expansion features, new character, skill, archetypes to play, and masses of other fixes and quality of life improvementsTyler: while working on the 2019 updates. We also hope to make significant progress on the four point Omega expansion, which we now know as path of exile, too likely coming sometime in 2020. For those unfamiliar with our version numbering system, Once we've released Update 3.9, we are forced to number the next 14 point. Oh, for example, the version after 3.9 and March is 3.10 as we do not expect to release 4.0 in the first part of next year. Development of 4.0 is a massive task that is absolutely affected by our desire to continue to release sizable leagues at our usual pace. So we're taking our time and making sure it's ready before we decide on a release date. 20Justin: nine. Teen culminates in the Exile Con Fan convention in November, where we can announce and demonstrate December's 3.9 expansion, as well as a small preview of 4.0, this convention takes place approximately 2 to 3 weeks before the 3.9 release, so you should be able to play a near final build at the show. We expect to put Tickets are for sale in the next couple of weeks.Tyler: We're also putting the finishing touches on the PlayStation four version of Path of Exelon should be able to announce a release date in the near future. It's going to be a busy year.Justin: So that was the development plan for 2019 Fergie and I will say I think they hit all of them. They nailed it. Yeah, I think they did. And they were very good at their ah, super chilled idea of what four point I was going to be in comparison to what we found out November. So we're going to get to that part sort of Indian. Let's let's break down the league's because we've had now a year we've had were in the fourth league for this this year. So it's obviously three have been completed. Ones very, very new. So let's let's jump through each of them. So we'll go 3.63 point six was the synthesis leak.Tyler: Mmm. Do you rember what you bladeJustin: synthesis for me Now? I I don't entirely know. I do remember playing arc totems. Ah, for quite a bit of it, just because so synthesis was a huge cast early there were that was the league of ah, huge changes to spells and just casting in general, mainly kind of got kicked a little bit and just was left alone. But casting was a big one So for me, my main one was, uh, was arc totems and it actually carried me. I think I played it quite a bit. Brill League. And I think that one took me to 97 or so. I think ITyler: lied Well, and I laughed and I laughed. That was the one league where you are. Totems was just storing everything. You could have done it with your eyes closed. You're having a great time. And you bailed on it to make something else because you felt like it was too slow. And you're flying. I mean, it was like a split second. I couldn't even hit like the start stop button fast enough to to say how fast you were laying your total's. But it was too slow for you. And so you respect?Justin: Yeah, I don't remember. I don't remember too much what I did after that. Only because that that was a big league for me. Just in currency. I had the I can't remember the name of it, but the Mir dhe shield that I ended up selling for I remember selling all of my ark totem gear for I don't know, 60 or 70 exults and just playing around and going crazy and then not carrying after that point. What did you play them? You remember?Tyler: Uh, I don't remember playing it, but I had it written down. It was how I do my lists of characters. My 3.6 build was an R f character. Okay, remember playing it, but I'm sure it did. Great.Justin: Nice. So, synthesis. It was not a great release. So it wasn't. Ah, it wasn't my favorite. While we can talk about favorite ones later. But the system wasTyler: confusing. Yeah, and they're confusing.Justin: And there's not a whole lot of it left in theTyler: game. No, no, it definitely went by the wayside in terms of how it could fit into the current court game. Um, you barely ever see. It really only exists for as I've seen it. Um, it only exists in Zana maps. When you see her in a map, you could have a synthesis map as one of your options. And that's really the only way that I've come across it. Naturally. I don't remember any other way that they've tried to infuse it, but that's that's it. I remember. Sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just gonna say I remember it being a league. That was as as much effort as they put into it. I remember it being a leak, that I was completely happy to just skip the content, just go right past whoever was that was doing all the since this stuff and I just play the map and do the atlas. Normally,Justin: the idea behind it when it was first announced seemed really cool to me. The way it actually played out, I found overwhelmingly confusing. It was really difficult to plan out the I don't even know what you would call it. The map type thing that they had. I didn't find it. There were so many issues where ah ah, block the memory segments. Yeah, an area would, like, clear out for some reason, Or you couldn't. I just didn't like how that function work. There was way too much extra added to the game. And can you even go there? Can you see? What was it called? The nexus, I think. Yeah. I think that's what it was called. Can you still together? IsTyler: every Texas not that I know of? No, I don't think you can get the pieces of memory anymore, but you can still get synthesized items. That cannon all within a synthesized map.Justin: Yeah, it was It was It was a I don't know what the word is that it was ah, valiant attempt to try and make something new to the game. But to me, it was way, way, way, way too much. It was like, what was the one in the previous year with the the boards and all the lines and everything that would, uh, go between all of the bosses? It was the one with the change of the craft.Tyler: Um oh, syndicate. No, no, it's not called syndicate. I was calling in to getJustin: the mail. It was to me, it was like that. It was adding way too much of the game, and I just wanted to kill stuff, but so that actually kind of leads into legion. So that was synthesis. It was a fun league, but I did not touch the league mechanics almost atTyler: all. It's It's one of its unique, I think since I've started playing, which was in the early two's, um, it was unique in the sense that there's a lot of the times where they have to make a lot of changes. Right? Remember with synthesis, they had that blue stuff that would be coming in, and it would really start to cave in on us what it was speed game, right? So they had to modify it a lot. And even though this was now 2018 but you mentioned betrayal, they modified betrayal a lot to try and balance it for people that were leveling cleared two people that like Game and so that happens in a lot of leagues, and that's just how it goes. But it was one of those leagues where this bite all the changes that they made to try and balance it properly so that it could be playable. It was the mechanic itself that held a lot of people. That, and just matching the memory fragments, being able to store the fragments, figuring out how they work to the best ability was from what I found from what I read. From what I remember, that was the hardest part about the league.Justin: I had a blast in the league, but I did not enjoy the league mechanic. I loved the castor changes. I love the you know the skill reworks. I really, really liked a lot of the changes that they made for game play, but I did not like the guy just didn't enjoy the synthesis side of of the league. But are we good with 3.6? Yeah, let's move on. So 3.6 goes through, 3.7 comes out in. That's legion. And now legion. I think one of my favorite things about legion the Legion, was it was dummy proof. It was relatively simple. It was very much breach ish. Not obviously the same exactly is breach. But the idea that you would just come across them while you play it. You could do them while you were in a map or in his own, and it didn't require you to really have to do much else. You got to fight additional mobs, and there was obviously other stuff that could happen within that you know how the league was set up. But the overall way that it worked was super simple. Super simple.Tyler: Yeah, You see it in the map, you hit the button, you just kill as much as you can. Yeah. Maybe they'll kill you if you unlock too much there. Too tough. Or maybe you killed them all. And then you move on, you pick up your loot, you keep going. And I loved it. Absolutely loved it.Justin: Yeah. And then so with that league, they also came up with a huge Malay rework, which wasTyler: awesome, especially because the amount of crying melee fans did in 3.6 for the castor league. It was really nice toe. Have those wines dissipate in 3.7? Yeah, andJustin: and while it was a really, really cool mainly rework, which has really a lot of that stuff even now it's still very useful to Malay builds. A lot of the changes that they made are still super appreciated. It also became literally the cyclone leak. It did. It did. And because of the way that legion worked, I loved the legion part where you would just you'd find it in a map, click it, you'd break a bunch of stuff. You kill a bunch of guys and you keep moving on. I wasn't a huge fan of the endgame side of it where you would go to that that I can't remember what it was called the other area. And you could, you know, based on how many you wanted to do, was the domain of the timeless conflict. Look at you. Ah, that part to me was not my favorite. Only because I had seen what people could do in there with insane gear. And it just made you feel like, very weak. Didn't like. Yeah, yeah. What did you play? Do you remember what you played in that in that leak?Tyler: Yeah, that was my blocking build my trigger Happy build that I do. And ah, it was perfect for it. Um, I was using Cyclone with it. Now I've recently changed it. The last leaguer to To what's it called Laid Storm. But I did Cyclone for that league with Max block build. And it would have worked really well except trigger skills had almost 100% reproduction crash associate ID for the first month. So I really tried to play, but because I had all three trigger skills on my on my build, I didn't know and they didn't really know they did. It wasn't fixed for about the first month, so Unfortunately, I didn't get a lot of playing time andJustin: didn't actually last that long. Was it aTyler: month? It was a month before the trigger skills Scott fixed. It takes time to figure out like that for long was the longest time because it was a cyclone build. They were really focused on trying to fix the mechanics and cycle behind the scenes because they thought cycling is causing a lot of crashes. It ended up causing very few, but it was a focus and it's just how it works, so not as a criticism. It's just what was impacting my specific build took quite a while to fix. And so by then, two people that I play with were kind of Douglas Aly.Justin: Maybe. I definitely don't think it was specific to the type of build you play, though, because that was the league where Cyclone became channeling and that made a huge difference to what you could do with it. And so you saw so many of the on effect skills now in used with cyclone, which was cool. Now I played flicker strike on Lee becauseTyler: I don't know why I actually don't remember what made me think A flicker strike. You're trying to make me throw up.Justin: Maybe. Maybe it was my goal. Just 100%. Be sure I wouldn't play with you. I'm not sure, but, uh, I will say it was the first league in I have played since was April 2012 in the in the beta. This was my very first headhunter drop where it actually draw, right? And so that was in one of the Legion things that was actually glacier farming, which was a big thing for me in that league. And I remember it dropped as a unique leather belt. And I was laughing because Ethan, who was who was in my office at the time, and I, you know, kind of just said to him, Of course, it's a tease. I'm not gonna pick it up. What a waste. I know it's gonna be garbage worms, Moulter. Whatever it is, um and so I most over top of it in both of us, just like crap their pants. Because it was it was actually centered, so that that was probably my favorite part of it.Tyler: That's if you were to have a highlight reel. That's that'd be rightJustin: at the top. Yeah, it was cool to have. I've had ahead 100 before, but they've always been through currency, so this is kind of cool to actually have one draw.Tyler: That's awesome.Justin: Yeah. And then So this was also the change. This latte league changed to the five sockets, which obviously allowed you forgetting to That owe me and you were talking aboutTyler: Oh, you mean the map device was able to have five sockets? Yeah, you could find that. I was pretty cool, right? Still in the game, they say still in the game. Is it if this didn't remove it, but I I haven't come across it, YouJustin: know, myself, either. Yeah, it and then timeless jewels were and they were in that the guy didn't play much with, um, they confused the hell out of me. I don't want to see a jewel with just a bunch of numbers, and you have to just put it in to find out what it was just just wasn't for me, But it was fun, Lee. I liked I liked legion. So, Jenny, we're good with legion.Tyler: I believe so.Justin: Legion then leads into blight, So blight comes out. I found it, actually, at little shocking that it was tower defense. It made me laugh when they announced it. And this was the league of monster minion buffs, which I knew you were in love with, obviously, since I readTyler: it. I am a minion. Pet lover, depending. What game you come from. I am hollow vote minions. My league. It was fantastic.Justin: So what did you play that league?Tyler: Zombies. What? Well, I did. They made a lot of I wasn't originally gonna plays office. I was. There's 11 or two of my guides. I've only played on Collins. Wanna have a plate on PC? And so I really wanted to play one of the other ones. But there were so many changes to minions and not just minions like the core gem like zombies was modified substantially from 3.73 point eight. But then they added an insane amount of very different but also powerful. Um, support gems like feeding, frenzy and meat shield and death Mark. And then they changed the values of the corresponding like minion damage and minion speed to accommodate those new additions and how minions leveled and then the whole necromancer ascendancy. It was so different that I had to play it just to see what it was like for the sake of replying to guide responses. But it was really good. ObviouslyJustin: it was the first league for me since again. I want to say it was backing closed Beta. Uh, when I was playing, I think one of my very first builds I ever played was minions. And I remember one of the very first things I ever message the developers to say was there needs to be a counter like the idea that I can't see how many zombies I have out is really difficult to play, how a minion build. And so this was, I think, my first time touching minions. Besides, I played with us rs a little bit, but I don't think I touch onions for years, years and years. Of course, with this league, you really there wasn't I mean, I could have played other stuff, but it just said it made so much sense to play around with with millions, and it was fun. It was the easiest league start I've ever had ever in the history of path of exile. I remember going, but this is something's wrong. This is.Tyler: Well, you didn't zombies for your league start, right? You didn't do any different. Yeah,Justin: No, I went zombies and it was just It was better. It was so smooth. And I remember laughing to you. Maybe a month in just jokingly saying that. Oh, boy, you're zombies are going to take a hit. I think it was actually right after celestial zombies came out. I was like, All you're screwed. That's it. That's the curse. Once you could stay with celestial. You're done. Yeah, So that that actually, for me, blight didn't last a super long time. But I do remember ending it with celestial everything. Of course, I got every single celestial, empty X had a bunch of the minions in the celestial on. Did you? Did you like the blighted leak? Did you like the towerTyler: defense again? I really liked it. I'm I was apathetic to the tower defense part, but I am a huge fan. My favorite leagues are the ones that just let me kill stuff right away. And so I love things like blight. You know, I love it when I have an insane amount of rogue exiles on the map. I just love it. What is it? Reach where they come out of the ground. Just love it. So this one was similar to that? I didn't have to go anywhere else to find my to do the lead content. And they were just comes rushing at you, which is great. Um, I I was apathetic to the tower stuff, so I basically just looked for the closest checkpoint. Her choke point or two made them slow and then let my minions deal with the rest. And Natalie, because zombies were so overpowered, that strategy did work. It was their intense to make towers almost required, unless you had an insanely over powerful built. So, um, I did like it. I love that the minions just came rushing at you, or I guess not passing pod, whatever that was called, but yeah, no, I really liked it. If if it worked, if it worked.Justin: Sure. I think my favorite part about Blight was sister Cassius. Oh, here singing and was listening in. And she just didn't give a damn about you either. Was almost irritated that you were there.Tyler: Yeah, Yeah, she needed you. And that pissed her off. Yeah, it was pretty funny. I do the one thing about blight. It would have been It was very difficult. I primarily play console and it people had to really, really do specific builds that weren't busy for a Minion League. Blight was too busy, right? I mean, everybody's has a lot of minions out, and then there's an insane amount of monsters out with a lot of hit points. And there was It was just a slide show on normal consoles, not just the original P s foreign Xbox one, but the the second version of thumb. Even some people with the Higher and PS four and Xbox one X they they'd run into some pretty big slide. So slideshow stuff, too, depending on it. So for ah, Minion League blight kind of counteracted itself with with what would be overpowered and successful. So a lot of the streams that you would see we're primarily PC, especially as you got later into the league, because only a higher NPC could actually handle a full blight map. The full board of minions. But I really liked it. I just wish it I just wishJustin: it worked, right? I do remember hearing people struggling with the blighted maps in later in game, just with the amount of stuff that would happen on your own screen. And then you multiply that by a 1,000,000,000 with the amount of mobs that were coming outTyler: and they didn't even implement it into console immediately. It was so challenging because of the frame rate issues and such on PC. They implemented it into 3.9 right away. But they didn't don't console and they're fixed on console was to just make less paths less minions. And it's just so easy. Mmm, It's so easy. It's Ah, I mean, I'm glad it's in it. I'm glad it's in it, butJustin: I've actually done them more while I run into them. Yeah, me, too. It's kind of nice It I guess it's nice because they're not so often. I never I never had a problem with the the Tower defense, but I also never cared to do much else Besides the reason ones. I would hit the ice ones and then just sit back in the middle and let my let the minions just do their thing in the middle. Yeah, I rememberTyler: doing. I like I like it. I don't mind. Some people have an issue when they have to stay in a spot and fight enemies. I don't care as long as there's enemies and I really like blight and breach. What's the abyss for those types of ones? I really like them. Overall, I thought it was a great legal.Justin: And then we went into the current league, which there's not a whole lot to talk about, just cause it's so new.Tyler: Well, they nerved one minion from 3.8. Do you know which one mother, actually, too. That's true. It was, in vectors, passions on these songs andJustin: then the support James. Now that being said, we've talked about this in the in the patch notes, ones necessary changes, maybe a little heavy handed. Hopefully, it's adjusted a little bit, but, uh,Tyler: yeah, because I think it was fair. I was pretty broken hearted, and I wasn't overly kind with, uh, my opinion of it, But I do think it wasJustin: after the human stuff. Yeah, it was kind of necessary. Now they did a huge Bo Ri work with 3.9Tyler: 3.9. That was the bowl leak or is the bulletJustin: is in the bowl league? So what now? It's funny that we say it's the bowl EQ. What are you playing?Tyler: Playing about build and I'm playing a build every every boat skill got buffed or modified to be relevant is this league. But there were two to Bo won support and one primary scale active skill that got Ah, I guess nerved would be appropriate. I played elemental hit. I lost a lot of damage compared to 3.8, and I'm playing with its link to the ballistic totem support, which is brand new. Um, they changed that from the attack, told him support which originally you could only lay one at a time unless you invested further in the tree with items. Now it can lay three so and blisters are brand new to the league. This league, too. It's a new type of attack totem that you have to lay within Malay Range as opposed to being able to swell. So But yeah, uh, my my specific build got hit hard, but this is a bow league, and people are going both crazy and they're lovingJustin: it. I skipped Bo's entirely for this league so far. I decided to go a spectral throw. I'm having a really good time, actually. Meta morph. I have struggled a little bit with some stuff. First time with S S f for quite a long time. But it's I like it. The Metamor stuff again. I have found this league more challenging, I think, for in a positive way, Not just like Okay, dump chaos, damage on me, like in syndicate or right, uh, make a stupid area that closes on me within, like, three seconds. As soon as I move like synthesis. This is This is legit. Like, if it's difficult, it's my fault. I made it harder. I love that. I absolutely love that.Tyler: Yeah, me too. I love that you can take You could make it. I mean, it's still gonna be a boss fight if you took all white items. But you can take the easiest body parts and make the easiest boss you can. And if you have a really weak build, you'll you'll do. Okay, right. But if you have ah, pretty good. Not the best billed as you're leveling and you do all the hardest ones, it's gonna be a hard fight, and it's I thought it was really well balanced right off the bat. A lot of the changes they've made weren't to these new bosses. That was really cool. One thing that I love that meta morph added just into the core game was completely was much harder enemies, they added. Armor and elemental increase. Resistance is in chaos. Resistance is they increased the life off bosses and enemies and rare Sze everywhere. And they just made the game. They didn't increase their damage, but they increased their survivability, and it has made the game itself a lot harder. Meta morph is a great league and the changes they made to the core game that they introduced with meta morph and perfect timing. Of course, because you're making a boss league and then you're adding all these extra boss survivability things into the game as well. I was perfect cohesion, and I think they did a really good job. They haven't changed any of it. It's awesome.Justin: Yeah, I don't even remember. Are the changes for that tied to the metamorphosis? Igor, This conquers of the atlas. It's kind of hard to tell which was for what.Tyler: It's well, it's all the same, right? I mean, it's tied two unique enemies. It's tied to this of the very specific map. Bosses were individually tweaked. Yeah, I mean, some of them boss fights were completely rebound anyway. But for those existing ones there, they were specifically tweet so that they were an appropriate level. It wasn't just flat, you know, This this tear all got the same percentage of health increase. From what I remember them saying anyway, so it's all intertwined.Justin: So then tied in with 3.9 and metamorphoses this the big end game change to the atlas of Now we're into the conquers of the atlas. We've got new new endgame. Bosses knew endgame story, and I mean, we're both relatively new into it. I think you're a bit further than I am, but again, I've had a blast. It's made. It's made mapping much more challenging at a lower tier, and that's fun. I like that.Tyler: Yeah, definitely. I'm I think it's it's done a very good job. So far, I've heard that higher up that there's some some issues with people that were David Cook to complete certain quests or boss fights, or that certain items weren't falling within a proper area. But for the most part, this has been this league tied with the new endgame that they've created. To me, it's it path of excels always tried to be a very difficult game. And trying to incorporate what people want in the game and what they want in the game is obviously a very tricky thing. I well, I would assume for them say so in their interviews. And it's, I think this has done just a fantastic job of making the game difficult while keeping the game powerful.Justin: Yep, Yeah, I agree. And it's again. It's a little hard to judge because we're three weeks, two weeks into it, into the league, so it's still got a bit of legs behind it before we see how it all plays out. But so far it's been a positive experience.Tyler: Yeah, the one thing I really like about this new endgame for Metamor are not for many more, but the conquers of the atlas is that you are going to see the same bosses that you're gonna fight it. The end throughout the atlas. Not just that. Yeah, and I think that is so good. G has tried to make this game more accessible to new people over and over without making the game easier. And the huge problem that a lot of new people, if they made it to t fifteens and sixteen's, which they would be able to clear a T 15. No problem. They'd crush the Boston problem than they'd meet a guardian and they get crushed. And this new method that they have of fighting the same boss but then in multiple tears as you get further and further into the atlas. It's nice because you're now familiar with the boss as it's getting harder, and I think it's a lot more accessible to new people. And I think they did a really good job considering that, too.Justin: I think it'll be curious to see how that plays out as we get further into the Alice, because for me, I it's hard for me to say I definitely agree with you. It's cool that you're already hitting endgame bosses in like tear fours and fives, and that's just gonna you know, you're gonna only able to expand on that as you get further along. But I haven't gotten there yet, so it's hard to say, Yeah, I'm loving it It just as much when I'm into your 15th and 16th yet So that's cool. Yeah, it has been good so far. All right, so here's a question for you. We'll start. We'll start with the negative side first just because I know you're a positive positive guy. So, yeah, what was your least favorite league? And why of those four? And it's kind of hard because I know madam, or so new, but I highly doubt it. It will be the one. But which of those we've got 3.6 a synthesis. 3.7. His legion 3.8 is blight. And then the current 3.9 metamorphose, which was your least favorite league. And whyTyler: synthesis was easy to ignore if you didn't like it. Legion. I really liked the mechanics, but my specific build didn't get fixed for a month. I think my least favourite was blight. Now I really liked blight, but there's the common sense of making your meta being capable of doing your mechanic, and they didn't coincide at all and because I'm a console player and G knows about their console games, and they need to be able to make their game for the least efficient platform that they release it on. I think blight was my least favorite because I couldn't play it on my favorite platform.Justin: Yeah, okay, so for me, my least favorite would be It's probably synthesis. But it's kind of unfortunate for me to say that because I played synthesis much, much longer than blamed much longer, I would say almost twice as long as Blake. I played synthesis, and that was because I loved the changes to spells. It made the milk fund to play. But I absolutely hated the league mechanic. I just could not. I didn't like it. It wasn't fun at all. Where is Blight it? Ah, it almost seemed a little bit too easy. And I didn't have any interest in the the the Blight mechanic. So and that literally was the endgame. Yeah. You know, as you leveled, there wasn't anything new that you were introducing towards the end game. And so I found a burnt out real fast, but synthesis for me. If I'm looking at it, from a league perspective, I hated. Synthesis is engaged. I did not like any of the the nexus stuff. I felt completely lost all the time on that one, like figuring it out. So for me, that that was me I loved, absolutely loved the actual plane of that league and the skills and the reworks and stuff. One of my favorites. But the actual lead mechanic to me was the blight wasn't poorly done. It wasn't that the league mechanic was poorly done. It just I didn't interest me, was great. But the synthesis league mechanic, to me was a little bit shortsighted and definitely wasn't one of my least favorite ones. But now let'sTyler: move away from the brightest guys so I could see how synthesis confuses you.Justin: I know I like simple, simple. So let's move awayTyler: from you go. You go first on this one, you go first.Justin: Okay, So this is gonna be our favorite, which was our favorite league. And why you go legion for sure. I'm really liking meta morph. I can't say for sure until the end of this league where they'll line up Legion introduced so many Malay where he works that I've been working for. Well, we're looking forward to forever. And so I tend to lean more towards the mainly type skills. It's just more fun for me, and I loved a lot of the changes that they did and Legion League Mechanic was was dummy proof. It was It was so simple to play. I wasn't a really big fan of that hole. Put the five things and I did it, you know, I played it. I did beat the one with all five, and but I felt like it was so forced to go that the cyclone route, if you really want, especially once the headhunter had dropped it. It made it really easy to go, and I just have a couple swords and put on the belt in the hallway. But the the lead mechanic to me, was a lot of fun. It was within the map. Side is what I'm referring to like. It made it very, very easy to just play the atlas to just play my build. Maley was strong, and so for me, as a Finnish league, it's the only one I can compare it to, because anymore so far has actually been a lot of fun, but we're like 23 weeks in, so I can't really give it the top for me. So what about you?Tyler: Catch for me was it's meta morph. Really, I know we're only that into it, but it's ah, it's harder right now. I know. Adding all the resists in defense for enemies is isn't necessarily for the league itself, right? That's just core. Game change is kind of like the endgame. But coupling that with adding bosses that you can choose how difficult they are you could specifically choose rewards like I want more rare items are away. Should I do, ah, unique item or should I do more currency drops and you're actually guaranteed at least something of what you've chosen. Now you don't know what the body parts are gonna offer you money from all of your options. You you're picking your rewards, which is so great in a game like this, you're picking the difficulty based on the reward, which is so great you can pick the location in the map where you're gonna fight. Um, it's just it's awesome. And I love one thing that, like I mentioned before about G one in this game. Hard, but people wanting to clear it in the blink of an eye. This slows the game down, right? Like we've we've talked who will get to excel con in a bit. But one thing that they really wanted to do with Pee wee, too, was really slow. The game down. And this is a huge step in that direction, even a year before Pee Wee to comes out is you're slowing down these enemies air rough. You need a really good build to destroy the really hard metamorphose and a moderately leveled build. Or one that's still trying to find its gear, still trying to find that right to weapon full of mods that they would boost their DPS quite a lot. It's gonna be a challenge, and you're and you're making tough choices. I love Metamor for that, and it's and it's metamorphose itself is stable, rock solid, stable, right? A lot of the issues that have come out with 3.9 have actually been with a new endgame, not with metamorphosis thing. It's been bug free, but I just think it's been the most stable. It's been the most exciting. It's the most. I'm spending time looking at my screen, choosing what I want to do. It's not just blind. I love it. I absolutely love it.Justin: Who are the 3.9 for you? That's nice. Yeah, alright, it's a legion. I do like metamorphic. We'll see how it plays out. Okay, so you actually brought it up. But let's one of the final things that they talked about in their development plan for 2019 was Excel Con. So x o Khan was obviously a huge deal for people who like Path of Excel. Ah, whether you went or not, just the idea that they were doing it was awesome. The fact that this indie development game was going to be, you know, has grown to the size of holding its own conference or a game. And then not only are they doing it, but they're gonna hold it in literally the for this place, every other country on Earth, that that's awesome. The fact thatTyler: a good turnout they had to increase what they had to upgrade their venue.Justin: I think I heard when we were so we I got to go, which was awesome. I went with my son, who's Ethan and and we I mean, we had a blast. He definitely had a huge, really, really good time when he was there. And I know me and you had talked about possibly going and it just didn't work out. But, ah, the I can't remember the number I want to say It was around 1313 100 people, is what we were told out was there, which is insane, especially given a huge percentage of those were not local. And when I was looking it up just out of curiosity, the closest besides Australia, the closest place that you could fly from was 12 hours away, which is just It just made me laugh because it's yeah, it literally is the furthest place away from everywhere else on Earth. Besides, you know, the people in Australia. But when we were in a cool when we were down there, I'll just quickly throw this in there when we were down there, actually made a reddit post because I was floored at the way that the people that were there were acting towards each other and the community sort of just in general. It really took me back to beta days of P o E. It just was Everybody was friendly. Everybody was hanging out, you know, like they're just was It was a really cool vibe there. And that's coming from, Uh, no, I'm not old, but an older guy. I mean, I think probably the average age I would have guessed was probably 27 28 there. But it was just cool. Like people were Tibor Super friendly. I mean, Ethan, he's 18. He had a blast, so it was a really cool experience. And then, uh, well, I mean, we should get to really the 22 major announcements, I guess maybe three. So we had 3.9, which was obviously this expansion in the whole change to the conquerors of the atlas. A cool, cool announcement that came out mobile announcement. Saving the big one for the mobile announcement was hilarious, because I remember sitting in the theater and watching people figure, you know, are they out of their minds, like, is this is this really is Are they lying? Everybody kind of thought, you know, until you saw how much you know they had the fall guy, which was hilarious. in their video and ah, and then Christmas, becauseTyler: that's his job to raid.Justin: Oh, it was so well done, though. It was so well done. I hope it was his idea, because I think that that it was one of the funniest titles for anybody in theTyler: whole in anyJustin: of the videos. TheTyler: mobile fall guy, Global fallJustin: guy. But it was a good view. And then Chris kind of talking afterwards about how it was hard to announce this last year made me crack up.Tyler: Oh, that he was so nervous. What? Cono Not sure what they were going to do.Justin: Yeah. And then, of course, the huge p o e. To which was, you know, the pre announced four point. Oh, but is actually gonna be path of exile, too. So I'm curious. What? What did you think? I mean, the ex con was so big, we can't cover obviously all of it. But now what? What was sort of yourTyler: overall? So for those listening, Justin, Nathan got to go. I, of course, did not get to, but we were messaging quite a lot throughout the entire conference, and it was really cool to get their perspective of to what was happening when what I could see. And so I was watching on Twitch and YouTube, and I got to see a lot of the interviews that Justin you think you can get to see while they were there because you could just can't see everything live. But they only had one channel that was streaming some of the interviews. And so I think obviously my favorite part of ex Sal Khan was the path of exile to announcement. But the best part of that was when I think it was Chris that came out after when Chris he was almost crying and he was having such a hard time controlling his emotions and his love for his game, his passion for the community that plays. He was so overwhelmed with people's excitement over what they were doing and their excitement to play even more and get more. I just can't imagine what it would be like. They were saying that they, for the longest time there was like four people. Only the people that were allowed in his office without knocking knew that 4.0 was actually gonna be p o. B two and it was only hey was saying that it was just nobody knew and for that to just get off their chests for them to be able to talk about everything. It was one of my other favorite moments along with Chris. Almost crying in a good way was when Jonathan maybe maybe this quick maybe was both. But I think it was Jonathan. He sat down for one of his, um, interviews, twitch interviews, and he was so calm. He was just so exciting, was so relaxed and he just said, Ask me anything. There's no more secrets And he was just so happy to just talk about anything. And I thought that was really cool because there's so much that's still going to come. And I mean, when you compare this to the Deauville for announcement, it just blows it out of the water. And the things that these are even comparable G was thinking about for even longer, It seems. It's just It was It was so exciting. I can't wait for another 19 ascendancy classes while we're on the subject.Justin: Yeah, it's gonna be cool. So I haven't I mean, you know this story and there's There's obviously a few of our friends that we know locally and that our family, friends and stuff no, this story and very few people outside of that would obviously know about this. Besides, there was a picture, but one of my one of my favorite sort of experiences when we were there because there were a lot, I mean, just that being in New Zealand on its own was amazing. That that country is beautiful. Yeah, but we were the day before the exile con event we had run into about, I don't know, we had met just because Ethan wanted to go out and do all of the meet ups and stuff, and I was following along with him. We met quite a few people on Dhe, some really, really cool people while we were out there that we hung around with and, you know, would go for lunch and go exploring with. And so we were. We were walking with three other guys to other guys. I don't remember. There were I think there were four or five of us, but we were walking down one of the main streets right by where X Sal Khan was gonna be taken taking place. And as we're walking down the street, this guy's walking towards us and he's wearing a path of exile shirt and right off the battles I cooled. My God, that's Chris And he's just by himself. He's just walking up. But the funniest part is he kind of looks at our group and he sees that. I think four of the people in our group are wearing path of XL shirts and at this, or jackets or something. And at this point path of exile like or a story? The ex con event hasn't started yet. There's not likeTyler: the next day or something. It'sJustin: gonna be the next day. There's not a ton of people down, like in that area yet that are, you know, path of exile people. And so he looks over at us and he smiles and he's like, Hey, guys! And so you know, will you stop? We're like, Oh, hey, how's it going? And he he pulls his phone out. He's like, Do you guys mind if I take a picture with you and in my head I'm thinking, What the hell? And it didn't seem like everybody else was grasping that it was him. And the thing is, he had shaved like he was freshly shaved, which is not his normal look at all. And so we're kind of like, Yeah, sure for sure. And so he takes his phone, puts it into the selfie and holds it up high and takes a picture of himself with, like the 45 of us standing behind him, smiling and he turns around. He laughs, and he's like he mentioned the fact that, you know, a bunch of us were wearing path of exile stuff and he hit. The comment was, I need to take a picture so I can show people that people give a shit about my stuff. And of course it made his life. And so then he kind of looks at us for a second awkwardly is like, Do you guys want a picture? And in my and I'm like I grabbed Ethan. I pushed him. I'm like, Yeah, of course we want a picture like get in there. And so we take this picture of the four of them standing with Chris Wilson just in the middle of the street, and he's like, Thanks, guys, have a great you know, conference and was so great seeing you. He takes off and even kind of looks a measly and he's familiar. LikeTyler: what? Who is that like, Oh, my God, that's Chris Wilson.Justin: And he freaks out. Like what? It was a lot of fun, and he was So he was so nice. He actually recognized us when he was when Ethan was in line to go and get his signature, he wouldn't. God is like map signed by a bunch of the developers and stuff. And so he took pictures with him again. But, yeah, it was It was fun. It was It was a lot of fun. It was really cool to watch. You know, stuff happened through him as well. So yeah, it was cool. But so your favorite announcement would have been purely toTyler: announcement there was. I mean, there was so much interesting stuff that we've talked about in other episodes and that we have lined up for the future episodes. But my favorite announcement was most definitely peewee to her entire. Do that.Justin: Yeah, it was very cool. It was a fun to sort of hear the reaction, which I'm sure people experienced it anywhere they were if they were listening and cared about path of excel, just the idea that they were coming up with two and that it was gonna coincide with one andTyler: yeah. Oh, just so I have three very specific things that excite me. Ah, lot of appeal. We too. But what is it that you are looking? I mean, we have I know we have, Ah, an episode coming up about this. But what is short, Quickly. What are a couple of things that really excite you about beauty too? Well,Justin: I feel like a lot of it'll safer. Probably a future episode. But I would say right off the top of my head, I just love the idea of a new story line. Okay, you know, just that whole new I've been playing path of exile for a long time. So and as of you and it's it's kind of cool to think that there's gonna be an entirely new storyline to follow. There is way too much for me to say what like my actual favorite stuff is, and we'll talk about that obviously coming up, But yeah, I think just the idea that there's a whole new storyline that's gonna be coming along isn't is very cool. What about you?Tyler: Slower paced game play? New gym system. 19 newest sentences. The fact that they're going to have what was a 38? It was 19. That's currently 19 right yet 631 Yet Okay, so 38 sentences that are going to be different and all have the ability to have multiple place 1000 builds within each. That's mind going.Justin: It'll be cool to see if there's 38 different ones. That's aTyler: lot. Oh my goodness, I e My brain's exploding thinking of voting.Justin: So yeah, so I mean, overall, though with the information that they gave on exile con and and sort of, their announcements back in 20 the beginning of 2019 for it, I would say it was a hit. Think they kind of nailed it? It really seemed to go Well, they seem to be really happy with how it went. And everyone that I ran into and spoke to their just loved it like every single person had a blast. Sweet. Oh, yeah. It was really good.Tyler: What about mobile? You gonna play?Justin: I have played it. You played it while I was there is true. It was It's cool. You know what? They've done a really good job with it. It's It's It's very simple to play very simple to just, you know, play with you with your thumbs. I'm not a mobile game person. I don't tend to play very many games on the mobile. If I was made me, I can't think of maybe flying. I tend to do work that when I'm flying. So I don't know, Maybe if I was maybe if I was just looking for something to do, it's simple enough to pick up and it will be free. So I'm sure I will install it. Uh, hopefully, hopefully by the time that they come out with it, it doesn't try to set your phone on fire because it runs very, very hot. They gave phones that you could test with, so I don't know what what models of these phones they were, but your hands were like, Yeah, it's like you took something out of the oven by the time you had played it for about 2025 minutes. Yeah. Would you playTyler: it mobile I'll download it if my phone can handle it. Um, but I'm I'm just it really impressed. Yeah, I'm excited for it. I'll give it a shot. I'll try and make time for you, But I'm I'm not gonna go out of my way because I play on call. It's a land PC as well, but I'm excited to try it. I hope my phone complaint, and if it does, I'll definitely forced myself. Thio, give us some time and I'm sure it'll be great. One of my favorite lines from Path of exile to, though, was when I think it was, Chris said. We don't care if it's successful, but if it's not, we don't care. If we make money like they don't even have micro transactions lined up for it, they might not. Even I don't think we're going to. It's just a game. It's just free and it's We wanted to be a really good mobile game if it makes money, fine. But they don't even see how it's going to make money. And if it doesn't okay like it's a mobile game for mobile people, that's all it is and I thought that was really cool because it solidifies. I remember the rage when Xbox came out with as the first console, the first non PC platform for Pee Wee, too, and a lot of PC land exploded in rage. And so PlayStation had a much friendlier release, of course. And so it's it's nice for PC players or just console only players to know that that they're not going to be overlooked because of a new focus of income. So if the false really cool,Justin: especially because there could have been that's right now like there is a there's a lot of money that can be made a mobile. So the fact that they're not putting the focus on it is really nice. Well, so yeah, I would say, I would say with their development notes from 2019 I'm really excited to see what the 2020 ones will come out with it in the next few days because they stayed true to damn near everythingTyler: they were spot on. Yeah, I think the only thing that it will be a little bit off and by no criticism at all is just their timeline for Pee Wee, too. I think it's 21. You were reading it. It was like some time in 2020. Maybe early. Maybe not Now they're thinking, but absolute earliest is the very end of 2020 Likely 2021. But peewee to always any time of year. I'm just too excited.Justin: Yeah, I feel like I heard it going all the way up to 3.12. So I'm you know, that gives at least three more leagues. Nine more months. Eso maybe the very, veryTyler: end. Well, we'll see. I don't really care. I'll release it over Christmas Tree. Oh, man,Justin: I hope they do so bad. That's the December release. Oh, merry Christmas. Be a means fixing only p o e one will continue to work on. That would be the best Christmas gift. Oh, we could talk about so much. Yeah, All right. So let's let's end this one off. I think this was this was cool that it was fun to look back. It's sort of what they did in 2019 and and now, and sort of give us an idea of what to look forward to for 2020. So we wanted to do a giveaway. I think it's gonna be fun. We're gonna make it super simple. There's gonna be two ways to enter in a post a reddit post on the show notes. All you got to do is post on that. Tell us what league was your favorite and why we don't care. Which was the your least favorite. Let's keep positive, that's what Red it's four positivity. That's right, you know, show some love as well, if you have you been enjoying the podcast or give us some constructive criticism. But all we need to see is a post showing us which league was your favorite and why, maybe what build you played. So that's one way to enter. Be on Reddit. Yeah, we'll post the link to it in the show notes for for this podcast, so you'll be able to find it anywhere. You're listening to this podcast. The link will be in the description or notes for it. Ah, and then the other way is to Retweet. We're gonna have a tweet coming out as soon as this episode goes live. If you're not following us, check us out on Twitter at forever exiled 82 we will have a tweet specifically for Episode six and Our Giveaway, So make sure you re tweet that if you've got Twitter. So those are the two ways to get entered and which playing for is you get to pick. We've got three options. It's either the bass Lisk core supporter Pack, the grand Sanctum Supporter Pack or the Eternal Damnation supporter pack. If it turns out you, for some odd reason, have all three or don't like them, then we'll just get you the equivalent value in points. Ah, to your account. So yeah, that's it. So we've got Red a Twitter win some goodies, and we're going to announce the winner Jury in Episode eight. So we have Episode seven still coming out at its regular time. This was sort of our bonus, one coming out for New Year's Eve and New Year's Day. So happy, Happy New Year's and, ah, we're gonna have Episode seven coming out of its regular scheduled thing on Sunday night. And with regards to supporter packs, if we can make it work, we'll make it work for whatever account you have. So if you're ah, you're an Xbox player, a PC player, a PlayStation player, we can work with support with G to make sure that those supporter packs are sent to you on your whatever platform you're using. That's right. So that's where it is. Read it. Tweet us sick. What you wanna win will announce the jury in Episode eight, which is two more episodes ofTyler: waste. I'm gonna win. It's permanent. Win.Justin: Yeah, you're kicked out anyway, guys, Thanks so much for listening to Episode six of Forever Exiled A Path of Exile podcast. This has been a really good time. And I hope you guys all have a super safe New Year's Eve and a good New Year's Day following. After that, I am one of your host, Justin a K Tagz.Tyler: I'm Tyler. Wrecker of Days. Oh, was I supposed to finish? Okay, well, it added at something in, um, hang on. Okay, then. I'm Tyler. Wrecker of days. Be safe this holiday week. No, no, no.Justin: What are you talking? You know what, everyone.Tyler: No, no, no. What? I was going to say somethingJustin: about your name again. I'm just gonna cut it anyway. But give me No, don't say that part again. Just give me half a second before you start speaking, but don't make it so.Tyler: No, no, no, no. This isJustin: actually now gonna be our troll. That'd beTyler: awesome. No, I wanted people to be safe on New Year's Eve. Get stupid. And for some reason, people seemed Forget that at New Year's Eve. But anyway, trying to anyone better would you, um, we appreciate all the listen. Some thanks for your time. Have a happy New Year's. Eve was safely safe. You want todo sure record and I know I'm going to say it, but you have all these notes that are distracting me about my filters. All I want to talk aboutJustin: is what is what happens when I throw on our troll on you that you have to doTyler: what you have just playing as I'm still talking about how I'm gonna do a note. True. What? What way would you say?Justin: Listen, I think the intro every damn time you have do you do do it? Yeah, because otherwise, but this is what our ingenuityTyler: I'll do the next time I'll do Episode sevenJustin: you can't recognize or six in You started with five because the intro change in Episode five you started with Rokko, remember? Thanks.Tyler: No, I don't. Yes, it's the widow. I don't remember. Thanks. Yeah, thanks. Uh, well, um, all right, Well, what can I say? Thank you very much for the listens, everybody. We greatly appreciate it. And again, if you have any encouragement or criticisms for us, please let us know on Twitter or on Reddit after one of our posts and we'll see you on episode seven.Justin: Make sure to check out the show notes below. If you've got any questions or concerns, nobody has concerned. I don't care if they have concerns. Heather clarified. Give make sure to check outTyler: Larkin and put this all owed on the same day that you were ready. I was ready. You weren't ready.Justin: I'm not gonna cut any of this is gonna be the longest. Whatever. You just you build like a needy and I'm previously on yourself. I forgot I was loved. Make sure to check out the show notes. For more information about today's episode, you confined us online at www dot forever exiled dot com as well as on Twitter at forever exiled 82Don't forget to find us at www.foreverexiled.com and @ForeverExiled82 on Twitter
Boom! What's going on everyone? It's Steve Larsen. This is Sales Funnel Radio, and today we're gonna talk about student stereotypes. I've spent the last four years learning from the most brilliant marketers today. And now I've left my nine to five to take the plunge and build my million dollar business. The real question is how will I do it without VC funding or debt, completely from scratch? This podcast is here to give you the answer. Join me and follow along as I learn, apply and share marketing strategies to grow my online business, using only today's best internet sales funnels. My name is Steve Larsen, and welcome to Sales Funnel Radio. What's up, guys? Hey, I've been excited for today. I wanna talk about a topic, you know it's... Every evening my wife and I usually like to just sit and talk. And we'll sit and we'll talk, and talk, and talk. Most of our dating, honestly, was talking. We would just talk for like three hours a night, every night for all of our dating and that was kind of it. So anyways, we'll sit down and we'll just talk and we'll share with each other. We're good at that part of our relationship, which is a bunch of fun. So anyway, we were sitting down the other day, we've got a little almost three month old baby now, and we're playing with her and we're talking back and forth, and my wife says: "Hey, what are, like, the biggest stereotypes you see in your students?" I said, "What do you mean?" She said, "What are the reasons that people do, or do not, go forward with the things that you're teaching them? Like, stereotypically though." She's like, "Do baby boomers react differently to what you teach compared to millennials?" And I was like, "Yeah, actually they really do." So I thought it'd be kinda cool to go through and share with you guys what I talked about with her because it was fascinating to see that. #1: I freaking hate the millennial propaganda. Can we cut that crap out, alright? Baby boomers, your parents complained about you too, alright? Are we all good there? I'm just gotta get that off my chest. I hate that, I hate that: "Well you're a millennial, you can't focus." Alright, you can't use tech, so back atcha. Ya know what I mean? Anyway, so I just wanna walk through this really quick, and just share with you guys a few of the things that I've seen stereotypically with my students. Now, this is my own students - it's students I've had in the 2 Coma Coaching. My intent in sharing this... the only reason I want to share this is so that you can hedge yourself to not be one of these stereotypes. So everyone raise your right hand right now, and be like, "Hey Steven, I, (state your name), will not get offended." Don't get offended about what I wanna go through and share with you guys right now. I'm talking in massive generalities, 'kay? Cause I've seen a lot of things across the board. And then, at the end of this episode, I want to share with you guys what I do to combat these stereotypes myself. I have my own routines. And some of my routines I didn't realize were my routines, you understand? I didn't know, that I was literally creating my own solutions around some of these things. But I did and it's been working. And it's really awesome. If you follow my Instagram, you already know what some of them are... First of all, let's just set the stage here: There has never been a time in the history of the entire world, where so much information and so many answers are prevalent and accessible with such a crossover with a lack of discipline. Mind-boggling. There's so many answers out there. There's so many things out there that are already solved for you. Yet people don't know how to go and just look up stuff on their own on Google and YouTube and just learn something for 30 minutes. We're not a culture yet of self-teaching. And that's why those who can self-teach, just blow-up so much. Number one, we've never been in a time period where so many, so much information is available, but there's such a lack in discipline personally with people. There's lots of addiction out there now. There's lots, and that's not to say it wasn't there before but I mean, we live in a very stimulated society now. We live in a very stimulated community now, alright? There's such a lack in discipline, daily routines. I'm not saying I'm perfect at it. But I try to have one. I try to live with intent day by day, by day. There's such a lack in discipline, there's such a lack in just getting up and getting crap done regardless of how you feel about it. There's such a lack in people knowing that in order for me to get where I'm trying to go, there's work involved, right? We get sold on this concept, "Oh yeah, I should get that, I deserve it." Man, that is bull crap. No one owes me anything. And I try and live like that. I hate when people say, "Here get this product, you deserve it." It makes me wanna throw up and not buy their product, no matter how good it is. When somebody says, "You deserve it," that's garbage. It is a lie. It's a lie of this generation. It is a lie of our communities now. In my opinion, (which I believe is correct), no one owes you anything. You don't deserve anything. And when I look at worlds that way, and when I look at my life that way... The reason why I try and do that is if I think that "my customer owes me money, I deserve this success." That is freaking garbage. Try and do that. Try and leave. Try and do that and try and tell me how long you're in business. That's not true. No one owes, nobody owes me anything. No one owes me a dime. No one owes me any kind of credit. No one owes me. I will tell you that you will relieve a lot of mental stress in your life. And I'm stereotypically talking to the millennials right now when I say that. Cause I am one, okay? And I had to have a huge wake-up call with myself and say, "look, no one owes you anything. Nobody owes you anything. I am not deserving of anything. I need to work my tail off." Now I'm gonna walk around and I'm gonna try and work my face off. It's kinda like what Will Smith says. He walked around, and he was, and he walked around like he was deserving of what this life had to offer. But he was not a ghost to knowing that he had to work for it. And I'm the exact same, guys. Like man, I'm gonna run hard. I'm gonna run as hard as I can. I'm gonna try and do everything I can. I'm gonna try and live the best life I possibly can with the fullest, having the best of the best. Being the best of the best - and that's my mentality. And, like, ya gotta fight to do that, right? So nobody owes me anything, and when you think about that with like, "Hey there's so much information out there with such a lack of discipline in how to use it all. Just follow me a little bit. I'm gonna start spinning a few ideas around and we'll bring 'em all full circle, alright? When I look at how undisciplined as a society we really are. I'm not saying all of us, but man, if you're spending all your time watching Netflix in the evening and you don't have something up and running, like shame on you! Work at it, right? And then complaining about it? I'm not saying I don't take breaks. This is funny. What does Tim Ferris teach in the Four Hour Work week? Holy crap, he works four hours a week. He didn't start that way, but he ends that way, where he works four hours a week on his business. That's cool! Now let's contrast that with what Gary Vee talks about. Hustle till your face falls off! Hustle ya die, right? And that's totally his message. There's two conflicting messages. Right? I believe the answer is in between. Personally, that's how I run it. I'm gonna go, and I'm gonna build that funnel and that funnel. I have massive projects on my plate right now. Absolutely gigantic. I am the sole funnel builder. And that's totally fine. I'm completely cool with that. There's a huge, a vast, a ridiculous amount of hustle in my life right now. And I expect it, and I welcome it, and I smile at it. I'm like, "What's up, son? Bring it on! Come on get ya some, right? This is my time. You're on my turf, and I'm gonna tear you apart." And I'm gonna hustle, hustle, hustle. But not till I die. I'm not here to just work. I believe humans were built, especially men, were built to work, work hard, work hard at things, have resistance. That's good. That's healthy. I want that. Again, follow me. There's a reason I'm talking about all this. We're gonna go full circle here in a second, 'kay? There's a reason why though, I know I am where I am. "I really wanted it!" Right? That was it! And understanding, "oh my gosh, all the answers are already there." And if I have just have discipline to go find and apply them I can, I can literally just get what I want. I can create what I want. It's there. That's why I talk about being a self-solver all the time, guys. You gotta be a self-solver. Solve your own problems, right? If your natural inclination when a new problem comes up, which is every freaking minute of entrepreneurship, a new problem pops up that wasn't here before, one that you weren't planning on, the one that wasn't in your plan or your scope how to get crap done... You're not gonna go very far if you freak out and don't solve it 'kay? Every day is practicing going over and solving new problems. The trick is learning to solve problems with speed. Learning to solve the problem adequately enough so that it's satiated enough, right? Not that you gotta answer it 100%. Not that it has to be 1000% perfectionist brilliant. I went there too for a while. I'm a recovering perfectionist 100%. I had to get good at being, at being totally fine with answering and being awesome at it 80%. And then just moving on. Go,go,go. Solve the problem. Move. Solve the problem. Move. New problem! Bam. Solve the problem. Move. New problem! Bam. Solve the problem. Move. Don't know it? Fine. Youtube. Sweet! That guy taught me. Solve the problem.Move, right? And that's how I run. That's literally why, I know that's why I blow up. That's exactly the reason why. So if you think about that. Think about, think about, right? So again, I'm just kinda like laying out the landscape here: So you've got you've got millennials on this side who have vast amounts of information with the fingertip training in order to pull it off, right? You know how to text and tweet do all the things. You understand tech. You understand the platforms, 'kay? You got millennials on that side, lots of info, stereotypically a bit of lack in discipline. Not always, not always. I hate it when people try and categorize me, so I get it. I freaking hate that. So I get it. I'm being sensitive cause I don't wanna say anything like that cause I hate that myself. On the other side, you got like, you got the baby boomers. Let's say, let's say 50 years old plus. Baby boomers did not have that kind of information always at their fingertips, but typically culturally, stereotypically, were really intense workers. You had to sacrifice, right? It's their generational upbringing. 1,800 people, I've brought through this process now. I see a lot of patterns, and I have people from all over the world, all different races, religions. Male, female, ages all over the place. I'm just painting the picture here, and I want you to see "this is where I am. I wanna make sure I don't fall prey to these lies." Or I'm over here, "Let me make sure I don't fall prey to these lies." So again: #Millennials, lots of info typically little bit less discipline. #Baby boomers: They haven't known how to use a lot of these tools, but usually have a lot of discipline. Also, a lot of times they operate from a scarcity standpoint, I've noticed. Meaning like a fearful standpoint. They think that businesses still require a briefcase, a suit, and a meeting to start the day. And it's not like that anymore. I don't ever have to wear a shirt and tie except to church. You know what I mean? I don't wear shoes. In fact, when I go and consult for people, they're like, "What other specifications do you have?" And I'm like, "First class if you want to. Uh, if you don't want to, totally cool with that to be completely honest, right now anyway." I just don't care. I try and listen to music as much as I possibly can and wear shoes as little as I can. Business culture has changed. I find that there's a lot of professionalism that's unnecessary in the baby boomer expectations. In the middle range, right? I'm 30, I'm barely a millennial. From the 30 to 50, I find that that, stereotypically, it's the category of person that takes the most action, who know how to use the tools. Are not complainers. And are fine when the market punches them. It's kinda like the sweet spot I've noticed. When I get somebody who's a millennial, I'm cool with that, I just also know they're gonna be a little bit sensitive. There's not typically a mental toughness, right? Because of social media, there's been this stereotype that's set across the mindset, where they look at everything that's gonna happen to them, and it's cool, they're dreamers. It's beautiful, I love it. I'm a dreamer. I love that. Why would we ever try and change that, right? I can tell my little, especially my first born. She's a dreamer. She's 100% entrepreneur, I can already tell. She's a problem solver. She solves problems like crazy and I didn't teach her a lot of the things she's doing. And I'm like "Holy crap! You're a really smart kid. You know how to solve problems." She's gonna turn five soon. She already has interest in the stuff I'm doing. Anyway, crazy. Millennials are dreamers. They understand possibilities. And because of that, they have very little walls. Emotionally there's a lot of walls because there hasn't been as much time put on the mat for person to person communication. There's not as much time put on the mat for how to deal with pitfalls in life, okay? And part of that just has to do with the fact that they're usually so young, right? They just haven't gone through that much. # Baby boomers: I've noticed, they have a lot of barriers. Usually to take off and do. And it's not just because of the tech standpoint. It's because there's a barrier of believing that there's this professionalism that they need to fit into in order to be an entrepreneur, right? Again, speaking in massive general terms, okay? I think each generation has had these massive, massive gifts with all of these massive, massive hindrances - like any generation! It's not the freaking millennials fault! The next generation's gonna have some weird derogatory term for them also with a whole bunch of things we're gonna complain about them too. It's the way it is. It's just how it goes, right? Get over this whole freaking millennial propaganda. Anyway. So, the key is to see and be sensitive to where you are culturally. How is this generation raised? "Wow! Were we all supposed to be given trophies?" There's some serious freaking baggage that comes with that kind of culture, right? Or, or, do we believe that we still need to be in suits and ties, and tech is hard to learn, right? There's some baggage that comes with that, right? So these have been the things I've noticed as I coach people that it comes down to. I want you to understand something with this. This is the reason I wanted to walk through this with you guys. Is this making sense? Is it going full circle? See where you fit! Right? I'm trying to help you learn how to self identify. There's a stage I was speaking on, and I said: "My goal here today is to teach you how to do to yourself what you are doing to your customers." Meaning, I want you to understand your customer's false beliefs. I want you to understand your customer's hiccups. I want you to understand your customers. Whatever things they're still struggling with. This is what I told them on stage: I want you to learn how to self-identify those things in you. It will speed you up. "Your business grows to the extent that you do." Okay? Which is true! I don't know who said that, but anyway. It's a cool phrase though, right? "Your business grows to the extent that you do." So I told him I want to teach you how to become introspective enough to see, "Like, oh my gosh, I got this mental belief that is wrong!" Right? Remember, you guys all know my story. Way back in the day I was really shy! It wasn't so much that I was shy, I just had no confidence. I had zero confidence, right? And some of it came with some of the generational upbringing that I came along with. It wasn't my parent's fault. It wasn't my fault. It wasn't anyone's fault. It's just the environment I was in. Right? When I became self-conscious... when I became introspective enough over those things, then I could do something about it! That's what I'm trying to get across in this episode! The stereotypical go-getters that I see across from the millennial side, all the way 30s and 40s, all the way to the baby boomers, is this: They have learned to become introspective, to identify what their own false beliefs are, and then the ones that matter. This is the key. They tackle the ones that matter... If you try to tackle every single one of your false beliefs, every one of your little character flaws, that an amazing way to get depressed. What you gotta see is what is it gonna take to be successful in today's environment? What does it take? What does it take? "Oh my gosh! I gotta learn how to speak on camera. I gotta learn how to present. I gotta learn how to talk. I gotta learn how to sell. I gotta learn how to market." They're not the same, right? "I gotta learn how to create offers. I gotta learn how to funnel build." Or maybe, right, "What's my tactical skill?" When I was leaving college - about two years before I left, I was getting a marketing degree, and I literally had no technical skill that I was learning. I was literally a dime a dozen. There was nothing different for me compared to everybody else. And that is one of the reasons why I chose funnels in college - to learn a technical skill. So I gotta have a technical skill. I gotta be able to speak. Whatever those things are, right? What does my personal character not let me do? The biggest one, the highest leverage one I can go tackle? Reach down inside of you, grab that, and break it! Realize it's wrong. See the stories, and the experiences, and the beliefs that are upholding that false belief, and reach down and break them! Rebuild yourself! Make you! Right? Build you. Craft you. Pick out the blueprints you want and remake yourself. When I started doing that, that's actually funny enough when I started making money. I was the biggest issue in the business! Not the fact that the marketing ideas didn't work! Not the fact that the product didn't help people! I sucked at delivering it! Right? That was mine! You gotta figure out what yours is. So, anyways, does that make sense? This podcast episode might feel like it's all over the place. I'm trying to convey something here that I've seen over,and over,and over again. 1,800 times. I have done a lot of freaking Q&A. I have seen so many offers. Every Friday, the whole day for me is looking at people's offers, looking at people's funnels. Do you know how many? Anyway, for years, okay? I've seen a lot of them! A lot of them! Funny enough, the pattern has always been, you know what... "Could the marketing be better? Yeah! It could. Could the funnel be better? Yeah, it could. But most of the time what I have found is that the battle is actually mental. The battle is mental. The answers are on freaking YouTube already. If you're just learning, if you just listen to podcasts, if you're just studying, if you learn how to learn on your own. If you learn how to study. If you learn how to solve your own problems and answer your own questions. The answers are there, 'kay? Never has there been a time when there's so many tools that are already done and available. It's no longer a question of, well, is there a tool that does this? Is there a tool that does that? What about this, what about that, right? That's not the issue anymore, right? It's not! The issue is not is the marketing good? Where is the tool? Does that exist? For you to make vast amounts of cash, that's not the problem anymore. The problem is mental! And I fight with people's psyche way more than I ever thought that I would with my students! Some of them are total rockstars, but most people, understandably, they got a background, and they don't understand that the market that they're trying to sell into, requires them to be a little bit different. And they're not willing to make the personal adjustment and the personal changes. "Stephen, how long's this gonna take for me to go through?" I can already tell you're losing! "Stephen, how long's it gonna take me for me to go through your model builds?" I can already, that's a losing mentality! You're already looking from a freaking scarcity standpoint when you ask stupid questions like that, alright!" "Well, Stephen, how long's it gonna take for me to be successful at this?" Dumb, dumb question! That's a stupid question. "How long's it gonna take for me to be successful?" Man! That means you're weighing the cost of you getting in the course and not looking at the clock, against freaking Netflix that night, okay? It's true! What I've learned, and if this hits home I'm not trying to offend anybody, I'm just being real and raw about this: When I've coached many students, and the pattern has always been: Could the marketing be better? Yes. Could the storytelling be better? Of course, it could always be better Could the offer be better? Could the funnel...? Yes! Yes, yes, yes, yes! All that stuff! All the classic stuff that comes with running a company could all be better. All of it could. But it's the freakin mentality that has, by far, without contest, been the thing that I've had to do the most coaching on! Which shocked me! I didn't expect that! As a coach myself, I didn't expect to have to do that for so many, virtually every person. And I understand that there's a mentality that comes that you learn when you become an entrepreneur. You have to learn it, and I get it. There's a mindset that comes with it. I get it. I understand that. And if it's new, awesome, but sometimes they don't even have the tools to take on the mindset. They might be a little bit weak mentally. Or they're really sensitive. Or they got a trophy all the time. "When am I gonna win?" Second place gets no reward in business. Learn to be the best. Learn to be the first. Dominate. I'm here to crush. Second place gets no financial reward, okay? I'm here to crush. That's a hard mentality for some people to learn. It's an exact flip opposite. It's a hard mentality for people to learn. Baby boomers, look, it's not about you being a professional. It's about being you, louder, in today's age. Just be you, louder, right? And that's hard for some people to drop the tie, get rid of the briefcase and be like, "Well this is what I would say, and how I would say it." That's kinda hard for baby boomers to learn, usually. Usually, for the millennials, they're a little sensitive sometimes. And again, I come from that category, I'm speaking like one, you understand? I had to learn that. I was a mentally weak person, guys. I was not mentally tough. I didn't know how to handle anything that was negative in my life. I had to learn those things. That is literally one of the reasons I joined the Army. Seriously! I didn't do any of that stuff, which kinda sucks, but anyway. The biggest thing I took from it was a mentality: "I'm taking the hill. Get out of my way." Right? And I took on those things. I know how to fight. When I need to, I know how to go to bat for myself. My resting state is nice guy, but when I need to, I very much have the tools to open the can when I need to and do what I need to with it. Anyway, that's what I'm trying to do. Let's go full circle with this, okay? This episode's been going for a little while here and thank you so much for sticking with it. I'm trying to help you self identify, "Wait a second? Where has my brain been sucking it up?" Right? "My business could actually be totally fine and I'm the weakest link." More often than not. I'm not joking. Like, 80% of the time that has been the issue.... Not, let's look at the offer. Of course it could be better. Of course we could tweak it. Of course we could do all these things. It's been this mentality based thing. Whether or not they've already had success or not it's been more of that than anything else, shockingly. So what I invite you to do, and I've been holding something here by my leg the whole time, okay? Cause I wanna share it with you guys. What I learned how to do, one of the patterns I started noticing when I was around ClickFunnels, I got to listen to Tony Robbins while he talked to Russell... and Robert Kiyosaki. I did a lot of projects for Marcus Lemonis. Huge guys. Massive, massive players... This is a funny thing that I always notice from them... A lot of the time, before they actually officially hit record on the interview, it wasn't uncommon to see some of them, like, in the corner kinda jazzing up, getting the energy up. Cause they get it. They understand. They gotta be an attractive character, right? And even if it's not their natural character they learned the attractive character. That's what I did. You understand what I'm saying? And there was this routine that a lot of these guys do to get themselves in that kind of state. Fighting state, winning state, right? "If I do this, awesome. If I don't my family's gonna suffer for it," right? Man, when I start taking those things on, it's a lot. You know what I mean? There's things that I do to get myself in state now. I wanna share a few of those things with you guys. There's a really, really good talk I heard once by this guy... he was talking about how when you start walking through a forest for the first time, it's hard cause there's no path. There's no trail. And it's part of the issue that comes with doing new things. People are in this unmarked path because there is no path. Their brains have never been in this area before. And they start walking down this path and they're walking through this thick forest and it's the first time they've been there so there is no path! You understand? But the next day they walk that path again and maybe they see that like, "Hey, that stick broke a little bit. This tree right here, I can see the first time I passed through, that tree is kinda leaned to the side more this time." And the more you walk the path, the path actually becomes a real path. The ground gets hard. Grass stops growing right there. Maybe the rocks start falling off the side, and pretty soon, because you've walked the path so many times you actually have a path. It didn't start as one. It only happened because you walked it that many times. That's something I had to learn for myself. I had to learn which characters sell online. I had to learn which characters were characters, the attractive character that actually made mass movements. That actually helped industries and affected industries. And when I saw the pattern over and over again, I realized that,"You know what? I could do that." And I walked the path the first time, and I launched sales from the radio. That was the first real time that I did that. I was like, "Crap, this is hard!" There was no path! It was just me and I was just bushwhacking. You know what I mean? Getting through all the foliage, all the rough, you know, weeds and stuff like that. Going through the bushes - it was challenging. It was very hard. And as I learned, it's become easier, and easier, and easier. Now I can just turn the camera on. And now I can speak in front of a lot of people. I can speak on funnel hacking live. "What's up?" And I'm super stoked, and it doesn't make me nervous. It's 4,500 people. I'm really excited. I'm not nervous, I'm actually super stoked. I'm stoked to the core, okay? So what I want you to do is I want you to, #1: Identify the things that your generation is stereotypically pinned with. You might have those, you might not. Maybe you've already addressed them. #2: I want you to understand which attractive character you need to become for your market to actually follow you? Where are you sucking it up? Then be totally fine walking that path the first time. That's just how it works, 'okay? #3: You gotta know what gets you in state. Seven Nations Army - I have heard that song so many times it's ridiculous. Every time we were about to do something crazy, or there was some big event going on, or it was webinar day, or there's a big event going on, we played Seven Nations Army. There's a lot of people, some people would just write to me and they'd be like, "Hey dude, you sitting next to Russell right now?" I'd be like, "Yeah." They'd be like, "You listening to Seven Nations Army?" I'd be like, "Yeah." They'd be like,"Are you singing that song?" And I'd be like, "Yeah," but that's not the point, right? The point is what it does for the head. There's a few things that I do as far as state control goes. The state control that I do: #1: Exercising in the morning, hard. I don't just mean going on a jog. I mean, it's gotta be hard. "Make it hard, coach!" You know what I mean? Make me close the bar, make me close to throwing up. Make it hard. And for me that's where I'm practicing getting in my war state before I actually get to my desk where I'm at war. #2: Next thing I do, every Monday morning I yell. I go, "Woo! It's Monday, baby!" It'd be cool to cut in a few of those here. But anyway, and I yell like crazy. I even go down to street corners and yell it in front of the 9am traffic. No joke! I do that! I'm weird like that! I don't care. It's not for them. It's for me. Why? Because it kinda freaks me out a little bit. My adrenaline spikes up like crazy. And it's awesome. #3: A lot of it has to do with my morning routine. I've noticed that that's the lever. When I turn that lever, that's the one that really sets the tone for the rest of the day. What's my morning routine? I'm not perfect at it, but I'm getting more perfect at it. That's helped me a lot, okay? #4: I've been holding this thing by my leg the entire time. This guy. Yeah, you like it? This guy is my mannequin. I call him poverty. His name's poverty. I beat up poverty every single morning. That's my warm-up. I write down all the things that people have said about me that are negative! Cause I'm not trying to run from my freaking fear! I'm trying to confront the fear and do it anyway. That's a different mentality... I'm trying to say "Yeah, I see you fear and I will." I don't care, right? This might be weird, guys, but it's what I do. I don't care. It's my thing. You make your own. Do it too, if you want to. Shame, right? Poverty. People call me "idiot." People just say, "Oh you're past, you're not qualified." People might say "I'm lazy," right? Some stupid lady today was like, "You're totally a scam! I was like, "I don't even know what that means. Please explain what you're talking about and go look at all the testimonials of all the people I've helped. I'm not a scam." Aut anyway, "lies," right? There's a whole bunch. I have lots of stuff. "You're too emotional. You're all over the place!" Fear itself. You got haters, right? "You're worthless, Stephen. You're worthless. This is ridiculous. This is all crap!" I've had people say to me. Doubt. Tons of doubt. "You can't ........" Loser, Pathetic. "You're pathetic," right? I've had a lot of people say negative things to me about this. I don't freaking care. Instead, if I confront it and I put it on this thing, and I beat him up every day. My life in this game got so much easier when I came up with a system to medicate all of the negative things that were going on in my head. If the game is mental, what are you doing to your head? Do you have a process? Is there something in place for you? This is what I do, okay? This is literally one of them. I listen to crazy rage music and beat up the doubt. One of the first ones that ever have made me feel bad was when I was going to counseling. This guy was like, "So have you ever been tested for ADHD?" And I was offended. Which, now I'm embarrassed that I was offended by that... but I was offended. I was like, "No! What are you talking about?" I didn't want anyone to think there was something wrong with me. "There's nothing wrong with me! There's nothing wrong with me!" I was offended by it. I was mad. Stupid, stupid of me. But I was offended by it, right? He goes, "I'm gonna send you home with some tests and I need you to take these tests and we're gonna see if you have ADHD." I was pissed off. I went home, and I didn't wanna take the test, but I took the test and came back to the counselor. He said, "You don't officially have ADHD, but you have a lot of symptoms of somebody who does." And I flipped out because I was a perfectionist. I was like, "I don't want anything to be wrong with me. I don't want someone to categorize me. Don't tell me I'm not perfect." Which is stupid, first of all, okay? But that one rocked my world. It wasn't later until I found out ADHD - it's a freaking super power. That's the reason I can out work 90% of the people out there. Thank you! Man, how many guys got that out there also? Awesome. Cool, cool, cool. Did you know that most billionaires are dyslexic? Sweet! "What's up? Let's all communicate together. Let's all hang out together," right? Do you know what I mean? Guys, whatever it is that's negative in your life... When I start talking about the mental and start talking about the psyche. When I say like, "Look, yes, that funnel could be better. Yes, it could be better," but most of the time the thing that's holding somebody back is the way they think? But half the time someone's like, "Well, that's easy for you to say, Stephen, but I've got ADHD, or I've got dyslexia, or I've got... " Man, those are superpowers. Can we get over that? Those are superpowers. You can do crap that nobody else can. The game is about you learning to harness what those things are and do it anyway. This is part of my way of doing that, okay? And I know it might be weird. You might be like, "Man, Stephen's a freak." I don't care. It's for me, not you. And so I go in, and some of you guys have contributed to this from my Instagram stuff, okay? Some of you guys have put some of your own things on here, but I go in and I write down whatever it is that's negative that are going on in my head, and I confront it. There's been emotional periods for me actually confronting each one of these things. And I beat the snot out of it. Forgive and grow. I think I wanna make t-shirts with all this stuff on it and "forgive and grow" put out like that. I think it would be pretty cool to do that. You guys, entrepreneurs are a special breed. You guys are epic. We're epic. This is not normal stuff for anyone to go do. It can be a lonely game. And the thing I want you to go figure out, a lot of times when I've been going through and I've been checking out your funnels? Man, just had to put it down there. A lot of times your funnel is good enough to launch, it's more of the psyche that you haven't dealt with yet. Right? So I want you to go through, like I say... And I know it's a long episode, and I apologize for it being a long episode but, but I hope you see what I'm trying to say here. When I look at the students and I look at the people that I've done this for, when I look at the consulting, the clients I've done this with, it's a lot of people, guys. A lot of people I've done this with. When it comes to the business side, you guys know, it's usually not an offer problem. It's usually a storytelling and marketing problem. That's the reason the stuff isn't going down. But even then, one more step back, when it comes to the entrepreneur themselves, it's usually a psyche problem. They haven't quite learned the mentality yet. They're still scared of getting hurt. They're still scared of getting burned. They don't know quite how to deal with some kind of failure at it. They don't know what it means. "If this fails does that mean I failed?" And they start comparing themselves to other successful stories. Fastest way to depression right there. They compare themselves to other successful stories rather than to themselves. Successful entrepreneurs are like, "Man, look at all the progress I've made. I can go wherever." That's the best way ever to get your self worth, your personal value out of this game. It lets you sit all this stuff off to the side. If you're scared of talking, like I was. Come up with a plan of how to deal with that. If you're not a fighter yet? If you're not willing to bat for your customers they're not gonna bat for your new industry. They're not! Until you're willing to go to bat for them, right? You're willing to help them out? You're willing to throw rocks at that red ocean while you create the blue one. If you're not willing to go to bat for them, they're not willing to go to bat for you, okay? Anyway, figure out what that is and what it is for you? Is there some character flaw that you have? Don't beat yourself up, just identify it. Figure out a way around it. And figure out what your way is to get into state around that when you need to. The way I do that is music, exercise in the morning, funny enough, a lot what I eat - that helps or hurts. And then, man, I beat the snot out of this mannequin thing, and it's kinda fun. Anyways, guys. Hopefully this is helpful to you. If resonate with any of it, please comment. Please share this. It really means a lot to me. I feel like we're in like, this fragile place of entrepreneurship right now. And it's really kinda fun. It's neat to watch it. But there's gonna be this explosion of wealth that happens to these people who have figured it out and really just figured out that, "Oh my gosh, it's just a formula." But I'm scared that some people who very well could have participated are actually not going to - simply because of ways that they think - because they don't know how to deal with certain things. Anyways, I know I hit a lot of topics, and it was full spectrum - it went all over the place. But hopefully you got the concept of what I'm talking about: #1: That you learn to be introspective. #2: You come up with a plan of how to come around the things that need to get a way around the ones that matter. That way you can execute your marketing. That way you can execute the business and actually get things off the ground. So anyways, guys, I appreciate it. I love you all. I appreciate it so much. And thanks so much for taking the time. I'll see you guys, later. Bye. Oh, yeah, wasn't that awesome? Hey, just real quick, a few months ago, Russell asked me to write a chapter for a secret project he was doing, and I had to write a chapter for a book, and this was the prompt, this was the letter I got from him: "Hey Stephen, Let me ask you a quick question. You suddenly lose all your money along with your name and your reputation and only have your marketing know-how left. You have bills piled high and people harassing you for money over the phone. You have a guaranteed roof over your head, a phone line, an internet connection, and a ClickFunnels account for only one month. You no longer have your big guru name, your following, your JV partners, other than your vast marketing experience, you're an unknown newbie. What would you do from day one to day to save yourself? -Russell Brunson." If you wanna see my answer and the answers of a bunch of other amazing marketers, then just go to days.com/stephen. You can see the entire summit, you can see the book, and each of our detailed plans. Just go to days.com/stephen, that's 30 as in three zero, days.com/stephen, S-T-E-P-H-E-N. Guys, enjoy.
Kathi Bowers Wallis on equality for all ~ "I particularly felt strongly about women and the fact that women were having a very difficult time. You couldn't get a loan from the bank. You couldn't get anything done because you were a woman. For me, that extended right over into minorities and people who were having a difficult time breaking through the old boy white network, which frankly really pissed me off." Kathi Bowers Wallis, Civic-Minded Entrepreneur Our Town in studio interview A Ockershausen: Hi, this is Andy Ockershausen. This is Our Town. I'm going to read an introduction that's important, and then I'll explain why when I finish it. Our next guest has been a tremendous influence on my life. I've known her and been a friend for almost 50 years. That's hard to believe. During my career at WMAL in late 1970s, that was for radio and television, this lady made some courageous suggestions to me professionally that have changed the course of influence of our industry. Our industry, not just Washington, and the live of minorities and women in broadcasting. She's always been ahead of the curve in her thinking. She's an entrepreneur. She's been a movie reviewer on radio right here at WMAL. A yoga instructor, and now she's a burger queen. She's the kind of spirit that added spice to the old boys club. Theold boys club. Not only that, the old boy. She's been a wonderful friend to me, and please welcome Kathi Wallis. Ta-dah! Kathi Bowers Wallis: Ta-dah! A Ockershausen: Say something. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Good afternoon. Here I am. A Ockershausen: Well, it's important that you know that Janice and I feel this way about you, and she makes a point that the things that you did to help me and help WMAL was influence on the industry, and that's a true story, with women and minorities, mostly black. The people that you suggested that we started here at WMAL Radio like Ed Scandrett in radio, Mary Brown in personnel. Because you had been in the personnel business. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Right. A Ockershausen: I think when we first met as a matter of fact, you were selling for Chase Photography. Kathi Bowers Wallis: What was my title there? Public relations for Chase Studios with those two dirty old men. Right? Remember them? A Ockershausen: Absolutely. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Oh my God. A Ockershausen: It was a great business. Wasn't it? Kathi Bowers Wallis: Yeah. A Ockershausen: It was downtown photography. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Downtown on M Street, and they did all the portraits of everybody who was important. A Ockershausen: Beautiful, beautiful work. They're out to business now. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Oh my God. They're both dead and buried long ago, but they were the only guys you went to to get your picture taken. A Ockershausen: They're the best. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Yeah. A Ockershausen: You had the PR job. Kathi Bowers Wallis: I had the PR job. I think before that, I was with Super Girls. Oh, dear God. A Ockershausen: You're a super woman now. Kathi Bowers Wallis: Thank God I became radicalized. Super Girls. That's when I was Miss Buick. A Ockershausen: I had the opportunity of working with you and meeting these people and through the Ad Club and the other things that you were deeply involved in. I'm serious now about the influence in broadcasting because we had almost no black people in the broadcast business in their line of sales work. Kathi Bowers Wallis: That's true. A Ockershausen: They had them on maybe on station, but this was let's say a lily white radio TV company, and we brought in Ed Scangrett and Mary and others, Phil Brown, all because of your name. It had an influence on this company. Believe me ABC then looked at us as a prime example of what you could do in broadcasting if you set your mind to it. If you want to hire black people, don't say you can't find any. That's baloney. ABC used us in management as an example. The first sales meeting I went to with them,