Podcast appearances and mentions of Robert Kiyosaki

Follow up does not annoy prospects. Bad follow up does. In this episode Ray digs into why "just checking in" is the laziest, most ineffective message you can send, and gives you the two word mindset shift that fixes it for good: be busy. Ray explains that if you are not actually busy living a full life, building your business, spending time with your kids, growing in your faith, then it is time to get busy, because your schedule is dictating the speed of your success. Ray shares his tried and true script for reconnecting with someone you have not talked to in a long time, along with his three step follow up for cold market prospects who have gone quiet, a method he has personally taught for over a decade that gets over half of ghosters to respond. He also gives you his favorite line for warm market, friends and family who leave you on read, and explains exactly why it works almost every time. Most importantly, Ray reminds you that a response is not the goal. Moving someone closer to solving their problem is the goal, and that starts with knowing what that problem actually is better than you know your own product.

What if the way you were taught to earn money is completely different from the way wealthy people build it? In this solo episode, Amy Sylvis explores the different financial rules followed by the poor, middle class, and wealthy using a framework from Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant. She breaks down how money moves through each group's income statement and balance sheet, revealing an important distinction between earning a salary and owning assets that generate income. Amy also shares why this difference became personal when cystic fibrosis left her unable to work at age 35. From the risks of relying entirely on a paycheck to the impact inflation can have on salary, she explains why building income-producing assets can provide another layer of financial flexibility. Rather than prescribing one path, Amy encourages listeners to understand the options available and decide which financial structure best supports the freedom and life they want to create. Connect with Amy Sylvis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amysylvis/   Contact Us: https://www.sylviscapital.com https://www.sylviscapital.com/webinar info@sylviscapital.com 00:00 The Wealth Rules Most of Us Aren't Taught  06:30 How Money Flows for the Poor 07:19 How the Middle Class Uses Income and Liabilities 10:00 How the Rich Use Assets to Produce Income 11:02 Why Asset Income Changes the Equation  13:53 The Risks of Relying on a Salary Alone 

You can protect your image or grow your income. Rarely both. Ray pulls no punches in this episode, calling out one of the biggest silent killers of sales success: the need for approval. If you're holding back from reaching out, posting content, or making the ask because you're worried about what people think, that fear is costing you real money. Ray shares from his own journey — including the real estate folks who laughed at him when he moved into direct sales, and then later asked if he was hiring. This episode is a gut check on fixed versus growth mindset, and why the path to mastery has nothing to do with natural talent. Ray admits he was terrible at public speaking, video, and sales when he started. He kept going anyway. Now people call him a natural. The truth is, nobody sees the reps behind the results. Whether it's closing, networking, or marketing, you can get better at all of it — but only if you stop letting people who have nothing to do with paying your bills determine how far you go. Show up, do the work, and stop waiting for the applause that may never come.

Join our upcoming live event at GREwebinars.com. It's called "The Seven Figure Solution" on August 27th at 8 PM Eastern. After listening to me for 12 years, learn how to finally put it all together for a coordinated, tax-efficient retirement and wealth plan.  Keith debunks alarmist predictions of an 80–95% housing crash and explains why inflation, constrained supply, and strong demand continue to put upward pressure on home prices.  He breaks down key trends in renter mobility, highlights how the AI boom is driving record-breaking rents in San Francisco, and contrasts "dopamine culture" and money maxing with GRE's philosophy of growing one's means through income property and leverage.  Keith also discusses how the Seven-Figure Solution framework helps real estate investors more effectively integrate properties, taxes, insurance, and retirement planning.  Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/620 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  FAMILY to 66866  Join Mid South Home Buyers' one-time, free live webinar featuring Keith Weinhold on September 30 at GetRichEducation.com/MidSouth to learn how Memphis' economic expansion could create new real estate investment opportunities, and have your questions answered in real time. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. An alarmist calls for a housing price crash of 80 to 95 percent. We'll listen to it. This city's rents are up 26 percent annually. The rise of dopamine culture and money maxing has made its way into personal finance. Then an invitation to join us for a special event today on Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  0:29   What if I told you that one of America's strongest cash flow real estate markets is also becoming the new brains and brawn behind AI? That city is Memphis, believe it or not. In September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Homebuyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6,000 homes under management, for a free live webinar, the likes of which I've never done before. We're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms MidSeal has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth. Again, that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth.   Speaker 1  1:35   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  1:51   Welcome to GRE from Naples, Italy, to Naples, Florida, and across 188 nations worldwide. You're listening to one of America's longest-running and most listened-to shows in the real estate world. This is Get Rich Education, and I'm Keith Weinhold. Yes, the very founder of this snaggle-toothed operation right here. I'm a longtime real estate investor myself, erstwhile writer for both Forbes and the Rich Dad Advisors, serving on the Forbes Real Estate Council, you can also see my work in the USA Today and Business Insider. I'm the creator of Real Estate Pays Five Ways and the Inflation Triple Crown. Oh, after all that, really, I'm just a shaved mammal with slack jaw, a highly leveraged hominid of the landed gentry, right before I discuss the housing price crash of 80 to 95% you know, keep in mind that most people think that if you're in real estate, then you've got to be either a realtor or a landlord. I am neither a realtor nor a landlord. People also think that it takes tons of money. It does not. Now you could pursue no money down strategies, but that takes some time to learn and skill to develop. Now I was a landlord in the early years of my real estate investing, but after about six years of that, I hired a property manager and never looked back. Therefore, keeping this mostly passive, a 20 to 25 percent down payment on a carefully selected residential rental property includes ones that today can still have purchase prices below 200k. That's purchased in a geographically investor advantaged market. Okay, that is the center of what we do here because when you own property this way, now you've got the margin where you can pay a property manager to enjoy the five ways that you're paid mostly passively. Be a savvy borrower.   Keith Weinhold  4:02   Now, when you're between deals and accumulating capital to add the next piece of property to your rental portfolio, that's where you can flip and do the opposite in the short term and be a real estate lender for perhaps an eight to 10% stable return. That's what I do, rather than getting three and a half percent, which is the going rate today in a high yield savings account. So be a lender between deals in the short term, or you're a savvy borrower long term. Now the late analyst at Housing Wire, and he was also a past guest here on the show, Logan Modashami, he brought this 80 to 95% housing price crash media piece to my attention. It's in the form of a meta reel that got a lot of attention. Let's play it. I mean, this type of nonsense circulates out. It's not founded on anything substantive, and this just absolutely does not serve anybody. You've got to take this type of thing as entertainment, but it's being presented in a serious, informative way, and just listen to the basis for the claim.    Hayden Weston  5:19   The United States housing market is about to collapse 80 to 95 percent, which means that homes that were worth 1.5 million are going to be worth 300,000. The reason is simple: the U.S. housing market has reached its most unaffordable level in history. People cannot afford to buy homes, and if people cannot buy homes, the market must correct. The question is how hard the market is going to crash, not if it will. According to CPI and price history data, this is predicted to be worse than the 2008 housing bubble. We are going to see prices drop 80 to 95 percent.   Keith Weinhold  6:02   A housing price collapse of 80 to 95 percent. This is from a platform called Hayden Trades. It has got to be the worst example of trying to steal attention rather than serving people. Gosh, don't even make 20% or 50% crash predictions anymore go for far higher, I guess. He says it is according to the CPI and price history data. This doesn't even make sense. Now the low affordability mentioned that part is true, and this is what's slowed home price appreciation. But here in the late 2020s, there was more upward pressure on home prices, not downward inflationary pressure, which is rampant. That is poised to raise replacement cost because a home is a bundle of land, labor, lumber, concrete, copper, and energy. America's best job markets face land and regulatory constraints that pressures prices upward, and regulations are not easily repealed either. There's a large reservoir of sideline buyers that still want to own, and single-family home construction is woefully insufficient, keeping the supply down. Indeed, there is more upward pressure on home prices, not downward. This coming inflation wave, that's exacerbated by war, is unfortunately, or fortunately, if you're positioned, it's poised to widen the K-shaped economy where winners win bigger and losers lose more. The boat is leaving the dock. Are you on it?   Keith Weinhold  7:54   The distance between the boat and the dock just keeps increasing, and eventually you won't be able to make the leap, the jump from the boat to the dock. Now, in the near term, because we're approaching the fall season, when you hear stats about median home prices, note that prices are lower in autumn and winter than they are in spring and summer. It happens pretty much every year. Now, why is this? Well, one reason is that a lot of people don't think about is simply the fact that smaller houses get sold in the winter compared to the summer. And why would this be? This is because families with school-age children who need larger homes get their deals done in summer months before school starts. That is one reason why median home prices are higher in the summer than they are in the winter. When you look at a long-term price chart of homes, this is why you see peaks each summer and dips each winter. Now, investors like us. Now we're not buying so much for school-age children considerations, but this phenomenon affects the median prices that you see quoted in most any market. That is how that works, and why homes present better in the summer too. Green lawns, Leaves, flowers, and natural light improve curb appeal. Some say buy when the snow is flying, sell when the flowers are blooming.   Keith Weinhold  9:32   Shortly, I want to tell you about the city with rents that are up 26% year over year, and there's no end in sight to those rent increases, either. But first, there's a significant national real estate trend. Now, a lot of times, the discussion about the rental market centers around the level of rents or the vacancy rate, and those metrics sure do matter. But what about tenant retention? That is. Renter mobility rate. How long do residents stay? Well, renter mobility is down, down, down. They are not moving around. That's the big trend. Tenants are staying longer. Renters are waiting longer to buy homes than prior generations did. I mean a lot of people are beginning to wonder if their starter home will arrive before their first social security check does? The share of renters planning to move within three years that has plunged since 2019 from 57% then down to just 37% now. This is according to a national survey from the New York Fed. 57 down to 37% that plan to move within three years. Yes, this means that even after the pandemic waned, renters plan to stay in place longer. Everyone is staying put longer, and what exactly is keeping all of those moving boxes in storage? You guessed it. Buying their own home is more difficult to afford. It's kind of like an obstacle course where the down payment is waiting at the finish line, which is a long ways away. It's like an ultra marathon. This decline in renter mobility. This is obviously good news for income property owners and landlords because vacancy and turnover are our greatest expenses. People are paying more.   Keith Weinhold  11:39   You know, it's interesting that many are staying and put because a lot of renters often pay three to 5% annual renewal increases, especially in single-family rentals. Among apartment dwellers, there are currently more move-ups than move downs. People willing to spend a little more, and part of this is because a lot of people have just simply given up, completely given up on buying a home, choosing instead to fritter away their money on DraftKings parlays, couchie predictions, meme coins, burritos whose delivery fees cost more than the burrito, and a dozen forgotten subscriptions quietly feeding on their checking account. Yeah, a lot of people have just given in. Besides falling renter mobility, there is also falling homeowner mobility. One reason it has fallen is due to the well-documented mortgage rate lock-in effect. But mobility is down among both groups, among renters and homeowners, for a few different reasons. Like I've mentioned in previous shows, America is aging, and older people move less. Remote work means people don't have to move for a job, and housing inventory remains limited. This means that there are few attractive alternatives to move into, whether you're a homeowner or a renter. Those are some reasons as to why mobility is down for both groups. And the New York Fed analysis shows that renter mobility it is especially weak among that subgroup that believes that they will never own a home. I mean, this group of people really isn't moving. They are staying in place even longer. This group that believes that they will never own a home, and this is a skew toward lower income renters for sure, but even upper income renters are staying longer. You know, I own a lot of single family rental homes myself, and I'm just thinking now, I can't even remember the last time someone's moved out. It might be over a year since anyone has moved. The average renter's perceived chance of ever owning a home that has fallen, and this is significant for investors. Okay, that percent of renters that ever hope to own a home has fallen from 52% back in 2015 down to just 35% last year. 52% down to 35% The amount of renters that think they'll ever own a home. Both single-family rental and apartment renters are staying longer. This is both types, and it's not because these renters stop wanting homes. About two-thirds say that they would prefer to own if they had the money to do so. This is substantial. The drop in American mobility rate. I mean, that part is actually decades long, and this seems to catch people off guard. A lot of people falsely believe that people are moving more often, and that's something I've touched on before. This deeply hurts.   Keith Weinhold  15:00   Certain industries like moving companies, furniture stores, and yes, real estate agents—all these groups of people have got to be wondering where did everybody go? The answer is nowhere. Apparently, they are not going anywhere. So the bottom line here, with this lack of mobility, is that renters feel locked out, owners feel locked in, and landlords feel locked up with their tenants staying longer. Although this is good news for landlords and investment property owners, you know there is one thing to be careful of amidst these longer tenant stays, and that is, well, say you buy a rental property with an existing tenant in place that's been there for a while, it's more likely then that that tenant is paying below market rent, and why would that be? Well, because generally, the longer a tenant stays, the more likely it is that the previous landlord gave them a break on the rent. Now, why does that happen? Well, landlords can get lazy about bumping up the rent, and see what's really going on is that the previous landlord, perhaps the person you bought the property from, they themselves bought the property at a much lower price years ago than you did today, and therefore their mortgage payment is lower, and therefore the lower rent was able to cover their mortgage payment. So they weren't too worried about it. But if you're buying at today's prices, well, then you cannot stand for yesterday's rent amount, and that's why it's more likely that you need to bump up the rent to market rent. Although national rent growth is pretty flat, San Francisco continues to rewrite its record book per Zumper's national rent report.San Francisco's one-bedroom rent is up 23% year-over-year to 4,180 bucks, and two-bedroom rent is up 26% to over 6K, 6,020 dollars for the median rent in a two-bedroom San Francisco apartment-the first time they've ever topped 6K there. Yes, the city continues to lead the nation in annual rent growth, and even ahead of New York City for two bedrooms. That's because this is where the growth of the AI industry has collided with a supply-constrained housing market, high demand over low supply. I mean, you might remember that San Francisco was hit especially hard by the pandemic, but its bounce back has been amazing. Even beleaguered San Francisco office buildings are filling up again amidst the AI boom. Now, the Bay Area's previous tech boom back a while ago that was led by tech giants like Facebook, Apple, and Google. All right, that boom was largely concentrated in these sprawling suburban office parks in Silicon Valley. Now Silicon Valley is not in San Francisco. It is depending on just where you're going, perhaps 60 minutes south of San Francisco proper. But see, this time the city limits San Francisco finds itself as the epicenter because a lot of the newest, biggest names in tech like Anthropic and OpenAI, they are headquartered in the very same city neighborhoods that were struggling with occupancy just a few years ago, and see a big part of what's going on, and there's a lesson in this for you as when a lot of other cities built like Phoenix and Austin did, San Francisco did not, and what's interesting is that the publication, the San Francisco Standard, it reported that get this last November a two-bedroom apartment overlooking Alamo Square was advertised for $5,000 per month. That was already 30% above San Fran's median two-bedroom rent at the time, but despite that fact, so many people attended the open house that the property manager had to divide them into two touring groups. Qualified applicants were then emailed and told to submit their best offer of rent. Okay, basically an invitation to a bidding war here. One tech worker and her roommate bid $5,100. Management responded that they had reached the second round and invited them to increase their bid again, and they declined to increase their bid and they lost the apartment. Those. Same article reported that an even more extreme marina neighborhood example, the winning renter offered substantially above asking price, six months upfront rent, and twice monthly professional cleaning. What kind of prospective tenant offers their landlord professional cleaning? I've surely never had it happen. That and bidding wars are now taking place for San Francisco rentals. Could an AI surge and a lack of supply make anything like that happen in your rental market? That remains to be seen, and probably not to that extent. I've got more for you straight ahead, including the trend of money maxing. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to episode 620 of Get Rich Education. What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group NMLS 42056. They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal and even chat directly with President Chaley Ridge while it's on your mind. Start at RidgeLendingGroup.com. That's ridgelendinggroup.com. Let me ask you something: If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed. But with a track record of consistent, on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call, or text family to 66866. That's family 266866.   Keith Weinhold  17:22   Although national rent growth is pretty flat, San Francisco continues to rewrite its record book per Zumper's national rent report. San Francisco's one-bedroom rent is up 23% year-over-year to 4,180 bucks, and two-bedroom rent is up 26% to over 6K, $6,020 for the median rent in a two-bedroom San Francisco apartment-the first time they've ever topped 6K there. Yes, the city continues to lead the nation in annual rent growth, and even ahead of New York City for two bedrooms. That's because this is where the growth of the AI industry has collided with a supply-constrained housing market, high demand over low supply. I mean, you might remember that San Francisco was hit especially hard by the pandemic, but its bounce back has been amazing. Even beleaguered San Francisco office buildings are filling up again amidst the AI boom. Now, the Bay Area's previous tech boom back a while ago that was led by tech giants like Facebook, Apple, and Google. All right, that boom was largely concentrated in these sprawling suburban office parks in Silicon Valley. Now Silicon Valley is not in San Francisco. It is depending on just where you're going, perhaps 60 minutes south of San Francisco proper. But see, this time the city limits San Francisco finds itself as the epicenter because a lot of the newest, biggest names in tech like Anthropic and OpenAI, they are headquartered in the very same city neighborhoods that were struggling with occupancy just a few years ago, and see a big part of what's going on, and there's a lesson in this for you as when a lot of other cities built like Phoenix and Austin did, San Francisco did not, and what's interesting is that the publication, the San Francisco Standard, it reported that get this last November a two-bedroom apartment overlooking Alamo Square was advertised for $5,000 per month. That was already 30% above San Fran's median two-bedroom rent at the time, but despite that fact, so many people attended the open house that the property manager had to divide them into two touring groups. Qualified applicants were then emailed and told to submit their best offer of rent. Okay, basically an invitation to a bidding war here. One tech worker and her roommate bid $5,100. Management responded that they had reached the second round and invited them to increase their bid again, and they declined to increase their bid and they lost the apartment. Those. Same article reported that an even more extreme marina neighborhood example, the winning renter offered substantially above asking price, six months upfront rent, and twice monthly professional cleaning. What kind of prospective tenant offers their landlord professional cleaning? I've surely never had it happen. That and bidding wars are now taking place for San Francisco rentals. Could an AI surge and a lack of supply make anything like that happen in your rental market? That remains to be seen, and probably not to that extent. I've got more for you straight ahead, including the trend of money maxing.   Keith Weinhold  20:46   I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to episode 620 of Get Rich Education. What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group NMLS 42056. They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal and even chat directly with President Caeli Ridge while it's on your mind. Start at ridgelendinggroup.com. That's ridgelendinggroup.com.   Keith Weinhold  21:23   Let me ask you something: If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed. But with a track record of consistent, on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call, or text family to 66866. That's family 266866.   Robert Kiyosaki  22:26   This is our rich dad, poor dad author Robert Kiyosaki. Listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold, and there is I respect Keith. He's a very strong, smart, bright young man.   Keith Weinhold  22:47   Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. The rise of quick hit dopamine culture has definitely hit the personal finance world, and this is not a good trend for a lot of Gen Zers, who are those age 14 to 29, sports gambling is increasingly a part of what they think is financial planning. A recent survey from the wealth management platform Betterment shows that 26% of Gen Zers, more than one in four, then consider sports gambling as part of a deliberate long-term financial strategy. If you think that's bad, more than half of Gen Zers, 52% say they've rerouted funds from investment over to sports betting in the past year, and that's versus just 24% of all Americans. Yes, the rapid legalization of sports gambling means it's never been easier to bet your whole paycheck that the Mets are going to lose 100 games this season. When a prediction market or a sports book starts to feel like a retirement strategy, we have a problem, and this is congruent with the rise of dopamine culture across all of society, where we've gone from playing sports, then to watching sports, and now to gambling on sports. In the kitchen, it's where we've gone from home cooking to leaving and getting fast food, to ordering Uber Eats, it's where media has gone from film and TV to streaming shows, and now with dopamine culture, it is watching reels. It's how shopping has gone from first high street shopping, then to Amazon and now to the TikTok shop. It's how communicating with people. It's gone from handwritten letters to sending emails to Snapchats. It's how we've gone from newspapers to breaking news to rage bait. As far as what we listen to for music, this rise of dopamine culture-it used to be vinyl records, and then Spotify playlists, and now it's trending sounds.   Keith Weinhold  25:11   It's gone from finding love to casual dating to infinite swiping. How about the way we look at and share photos? It's gone from photo albums to camera rolls to Instagram stories, and how about the way we access information with this rise of dopamine culture? It's gone from libraries to Google to Chat GPT, and that brings us to money maxing. Okay, yes, here in our finance world, the rise of dopamine culture has led to this. Yes, that is apparently a word now. Money maxing-it's all one word with 2x's. It sounds like something invented by a 22-year-old who's got three credit cards, three hoodies, and one fork. Okay, but money maxing-that is one of the newest personal finance trends spreading across social media. Now, the maxing stuff in that whole suffix that first became popular through terms like looks maxing, which means trying to maximize your physical appearance, whether you're male or female, and now people are sleep maxing, health maxing, career maxing, and I guess it was just inevitable until they were money maxing. And what it really means is optimizing your financial life so that every dollar works harder for you. That could include using a high yield savings account, earning credit card points and rewards, automating your investments, negotiating bills, and eliminating wasteful spending-eh, in other words, it's just another internet reinvention of financial responsibility. I mean, your grandparents just called it being sensible.   Keith Weinhold  26:58   Now, I do like the fact that young people are talking about money. I mean, as we've covered before, financial education is desperately needed. Schools will teach you about the parts of a biological cell, but surely not how to read a mortgage statement. So you can graduate knowing that mitochondria are the powerhouse of the cell, while believing that a tax refund is free money from the government. So you know, directionally, money maxing is good, but see, it usually only focuses on one side of the equation. That's the problem with money maxing. It only focuses on spending less. And here at GRE we take a different approach. The old financial advice is live below your means, and GRE's philosophy is grow your means. You should only live below your means earlier in your financial life when you sort of have to and you need to form capital for investments. But grow your means so that you can have the means to do things. I mean, that is the point of financial betterment.   Keith Weinhold  28:09   Long term, financial betterment is certainly not sustainable by saving money by getting a haircut at home, only watching men's fast pitch softball at the Moose Lodge because it's free instead of going to a Major League Baseball game, saving $120 on air tickets by adding an extra layover on your trip itinerary, or a buy one get one free deal on Hillshire Farm Bacon. Now, of course, you shouldn't waste money if you're paying for six streaming services and you're only watching one. Well, cancel the others. If you carry a credit card balance at 24% surely extinguish that financial dumpster fire. But you cannot shrink your way to an extraordinary life. There is a floor beneath how little you can spend, there is no ceiling above how much value you can create for others. You can cancel your coffee, you can stop eating out, you can turn down the thermostat until your living room feels like a meat locker, but eventually there is nothing meaningful left to cut. That is the weakness in traditional money advice. It treats personal finance like a sinking ship, and it just hands you a bucket. Growing your means is building a bigger ship. The most powerful form of money maxing is not squeezing another 2% off your grocery bill. It is increasing your income. It is acquiring productive assets and creating systems that pay you repeatedly. I mean, saving 20 bucks is fine. Creating another income stream can continue for. Years. This is the difference between subtraction and multiplication. Most money-maxing advice really isn't different than that conventional advice. It's living in the world of subtraction. Cut this. Cancel that. Buy the generic cereal. Drive across town to save 12 cents per gallon. Hey, congratulations! You just spent 40 minutes of your finite life to save $2.80. Real wealth is built through multiplication. Multiply your income, multiply your skills, multiply your relationships, learn a new system, multiply the number of people you serve with rental property, and then multiply your money through productive assets. Now, this does not mean to spend recklessly. Growing means is not permission to inflate your lifestyle every single time your income rises, but it means directing more attention toward expansion than deprivation.   Keith Weinhold  30:59   Ask yourself a better question. Instead of asking how can I save another $100 this month, ask how can I create another $1,000 of monthly income. That very question activates a completely different part of your brain. Now maybe you develop a valuable skill. Maybe you negotiate your compensation. Maybe you start a business. Maybe you acquire an income property. Maybe you turn knowledge, intellectual property, or an audience into a recurring revenue stream. You start looking for leverage rather than looking for coupons and leverage, that is the real engine of what money maxing ought to be. Leverage means accomplishing more with less of your personal effort, and there sure are a lot of forms you can leverage other people's time. You can leverage systems and technology. We're going to talk about a system later here. You can leverage media where one message reaches 1000s or millions of people, and in real estate, you can leverage other people's money. You can scale. A few weeks ago, here I discussed four different types of scale. Real estate investors can get them all at the same time. If you remember, they are financial leverage, like with the five ways. There's operational leverage, there's geographic leverage, and finally replication. You use a relatively small down payment to control a much larger asset while your tenant pays you rent, that income helps cover the property's expenses and mortgage, and over time, inflation tends to lift rents and property values. While your fixed rate debt becomes easier to repay with diminished dollars, I mean that is real money maxing right there. In fact, GRE's real estate pays five ways framework might be the ultimate money maxing system. One property can produce cash flow; it can appreciate. Your tenant can gradually amortize your loan for you. You get the tax benefits, and inflation can transfer wealth from the lender to you through your fixed rate debt, five simultaneous financial benefits attached to one asset. Oh, and we're going to take that and compare that with saving 50 cents on toothpaste. Now, both things technically do improve your finances, but they don't even belong in the same zip code.   Keith Weinhold  33:41   Now, none of this means that every leveraged property is a good investment. In fact, leverage amplifies outcomes. A well-selected, properly financed property is going to accelerate your wealth creation. But a bad deal with thin reserves-hey, that can accelerate your introduction to an attorney. Money maxing still requires judgment. You want durable income, adequate liquidity, responsible underwriting, and you want to have enough reserves to withstand the inevitable surprise. Because every rental property eventually introduces you to something that is leaking, squeaking, or perhaps refusing to pay. The goal is not to optimize every dollar so aggressively that your financial life becomes fragile. And really, that is an important warning about all forms of maxing. Optimization can go too far. Someone might transfer money among five banks to chase these tiny promotional yields, and open 12 credit cards for bonus points, and then monitor every purchase with the intensity of airport security. Okay, I mean technically they're optimization. Their money, but they're also turning their life into like an unpaid accounting internship. Your money should create freedom, not become another demanding employer. Effective money maxing focuses on the big levers first. Get some big wins. Increase your earned income. Own those productive assets. Use good debt prudently. Reduce taxes legally. Protect yourself against catastrophic losses. Maintain liquidity, and then optimize the smaller expenses. Do not spend three hours clipping coupons while ignoring a poorly structured $400,000 mortgage. You do not congratulate yourself on saving $9 on lunch while leaving 50k idle in an account that earns almost nothing. So we don't obsess over credit card points while carrying a balance because paying 24% interest to earn 2% cash back is not money maxing. That is like arithmetic getting mugged in an alley. And there's also an important difference between looking rich and becoming wealthy. Social media rewards visible consumption on things like cars, watches, first-class seats, rooftop dinners, actual wealth-that's something that's often invisible. It is the rental property quietly producing income. It is the ownership stake compounding in the background. It is the tax strategy that's never going to appear in a photograph, and it is the growing gap between what you earn and what you need to live.   Keith Weinhold  36:46   The person displaying the most wealth can have the least. The person saying very little might own the building. So yes, embrace money maxing. Know where your money goes. Eliminate the waste. Negotiate recurring expenses, automate your good decisions, and make your dollar purposeful. Each dollar, but don't stop with living below your means because that is only financial defense. Growing your means is financial offense. Saving money can make you more secure. Owning productive assets-that's what can make you free. The highest form of money maxing is not becoming the world's most efficient consumer. It is making the transition from consumer to owner. Own businesses, own equities, own real estate, own assets that produce value while you sleep, travel, or spend time with the people that matter to you. Because your time is limited, and yet your appetite for generic cereal is also limited. But your ability to create value, acquire assets, and grow your means. That is far less limited. Live below your means if you must, but don't stay there. Grow your means. That is true money maxing. And the number one reason that people don't acquire wealth. Do you know what it is? It's that it simply does not occur to them that they can.    Keith Weinhold  38:24   That is what Brian Tracy said. That is so incredibly simple, and it's true. If you want a money max, you need to have a great system. Let me tell you about a system called the Seven Figure Solution. Now you've been listening to me weekly for almost 12 years here, which I'm immensely grateful for. You've been earning money, investing well, and here with the seven-figure solution, you're going to be able to finally see how it all goes together. It's about making sure that your real estate and other assets appropriately fund your retirement in a way that gives you protection against market downturns, a tax advantage pool of liquidity, the death benefit of a life insurance policy, and actually introduces you to a new form of leverage all at the same time, the liquidity is key because this is where a 401(k) or IRA limit you. Those vehicles have taxes and penalties if you want to use those funds early, and this does not.   Keith Weinhold  39:34   But the seven-figure solution-it's not just for retirees. In fact, our own in-house investment coach here, Naresh uses something like this, and he's in his 30s. It also gives you a significant tailwind during your investing career. Integrate the seven-figure solution the GRE way, where we have a conscientiousness about leverage in cash flow, and in this case, part of it is how to prove. Leverage a life insurance policy. When it's time to tap that policy's cash value, you take what is a policy loan, not a withdrawal, because you're borrowing against your cash value, and therefore you're using the funds in more than one place. That's the leverage, and then the IRS does not tax loan proceeds, and this reminds me of a billionaire borrowing against the value of their stock rather than having to sell any of those assets. And yet, this can be done tax-free. It's similar to what you can do with the seven-figure solution, even for non-billionaires, it is buy, borrow, die. This leverages an indexed universal life policy, and there is the right way to do this and the wrong way to do it. Part of the seven-figure solution is that your cash value can have an upside ceiling and loss protection on the downside. That's really something that you only care about more as you're closer to retirement. And there are some mistakes to avoid here. You don't just want to set up the seven-figure solution off of a website, and it's based on products that you might have heard of from companies like Nationwide and mass mutual. I strongly encourage you to learn more, see how it all goes together, and learn how the seven-figure solution compares to other vehicles like a Roth IRA, 401k, and even a 721 and 1031 exchange. This is very much about you being able to picture your future, you've been building your real estate portfolio either from your investment coach or on your own. This is how the puzzle pieces finally are all going to go together. I am cordially inviting you to join us for a special live event, the Seven Figure Solution. It is co-hosted by our own GRE investment coach Naresh and Haven Bridges Jared, who you heard from on the show with me last week. By attending live from the comfort of your own home or from anywhere, you can have your questions answered in real time. It is this Thursday, the 27th, at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific.   Keith Weinhold  42:23   Most people spend decades building wealth, and then they lose far too much of it because the retirement pieces were never designed to work with each other. So you're going to see how real estate, taxes, insurance, and retirement income can fit into one coordinated strategy, helping you grow and protect your wealth, access capital without immediately selling your assets, and potentially avoid losing hundreds of thousands of dollars to taxes unnecessarily. So it's not just another collection of disconnected financial tips. Really, it's your opportunity to finally see the entire retirement picture and understand what might be missing from yours. It's complimentary to attend. The longer you wait, the fewer options you could have. Decisions made today can affect your wealth for decades. Don't wait until retirement day to discover that your plan had expensive holes in it. There are some moving pieces here, so it's especially helpful that you attend this one live, and that way you can have any questions answered in real time, so that you really understand. And you might have been one of thousands of listeners that have attended our property webinars before, and they are important to building your portfolio. But this one could very well be more important in seeing your big picture, seeing your retirement, and seeing that your heirs aren't left with a giant tax bill too. You can reserve your seat now for the seven-figure solution at grewebinars.com again. That's grewebinars.com. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 2  44:14   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  44:42   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building. getricheducation.com.

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Keith breaks down why global crises, geopolitical shocks, and nonstop "doom" headlines haven't stopped stocks and real estate from reaching near all-time highs, and what that means for investors focused on inflation-resistant assets.  He also discusses Memphis as a surprising cash-flow market poised to benefit from the AI boom, sharing details on an upcoming webinar with Mid South Homebuyers.  Keith is joined by real estate investor and educator Jared Garfield to unpack the "Seven-Figure Solution," a strategy that combines cash-flowing rentals with tax-advantaged life insurance to create liquidity, reduce risk, and support long-term retirement income.  Together, they explore how disciplined portfolio growth, smart leverage, and coordinated tax planning can help real estate investors better align their assets with their long-term financial goals. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript: Keith Weinhold  0:02   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. The world is about to end again. It's the economic disaster that never arrives. I'll break it down. Then you've been earning money and investing well all these years. How does it all go together? It can culminate in the seven-figure solution, it's about seeing your future today on Get Rich Education. What if I told you that one of America's strongest cash flow real estate markets is also becoming the new brains and brawn behind AI? That city is Memphis, believe it or not. And September 30th, we're going to show you why the smart money is paying attention now, along with an investing opportunity you won't want to miss. Join me, Terry Kerr and Matthew Van Horn of Mid South Homebuyers, the largest turnkey company in Memphis with more than 6,000 homes under management, for a free live webinar, the likes of which I've never done before, we're going to look at what billions in new investment could mean for jobs, housing demand, neighborhood appreciation, and your portfolio. Everyone who attends live will also get exclusive access to the best deal terms Mid South has ever offered. Reserve your free seat at getricheducation.com/midsouth again that september 30. Don't say we didn't tell you. Save your spot at getricheducation.com/midsouth.   Speaker 1  1:39   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  1:55   Welcome to GRE from Kankakee, Illinois, to Cherokee, Iowa, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. This is Get Recid Education, and the world is about to end. Even if you survive, your portfolio surely won't. Oh, jeez. At least that's the impression you get from mass media and what I'll call the Doom Scroll Industrial Complex. Fear creates urgency. Urgency attracts eyeballs. Eyeballs attract ad dollars. And I guess that using a slogan like "everything will probably be fine" well, that's never been a great ratings strategy. Now, can what has happened since 2020. Just this cheery little sequence: COVID, then Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and then the war in Iran. All that just since 2020. I mean, that right there sounds less like an economic timeline and more like a movie plot, or that the world is repeatedly spinning the wheel of misfortune. Yet after all of that, what is the result? Both stocks and residential real estate are near all-time highs. Apparently, the apocalypse has been postponed yet again-at least economically speaking. Now let's zoom out and break down these threats and a few more, all just since 2020, because 2020 is the year where, of course, you had the COVID-19 pandemic, economic shutdowns, the fastest major stock bear market in history, supply chain breakdown. You saw empty shelves, and there was unprecedented government intervention from the Paycheck Protection Program to stimulus checks to mortgage loan forbearance. Then, in 2021 and 2022, you had post-COVID inflation and supply shortages. Now, this was more of a result, not strictly geopolitical, but a major investment threat, and that led to aggressive interest rate hikes. From 2022 to the present, you have Russia's invasion of Ukraine, energy and food shocks came from that, sanctions, instability over in Europe, and really a heightened nuclear risk in 2023. You had the U.S. regional banking crisis. Remember SVB, yes, Silicon Valley Bank, Signature Bank, First Republic. They raised fears of a financial contagion that would spread like fat. Than a secret in a small town, it actually made me buy some gold. From 2023 to the present, you had the Israel-Hamas war and this broad Middle East instability, Hezbollah attacks, Houthi attacks, Red Sea shipping disruptions. It's almost like a geopolitical group project. And then from 2025 to the present, you have renewed U.S. tariffs and a global trade war, and this year you have the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran and the Strait of Hormuz disruption. That is the biggest current geopolitical investment threat because it combines all of these things: war, oil disruption, inflation, higher interest rates, and a recession risk. So it's a lot like this particularly unpleasant smoothie that's been blended together.   Keith Weinhold  5:55   All right. Well, all of that-that is just an absurd amount of uncertainty and disruption only since 2020, and though major markets are at all-time highs in the face of this, let's acknowledge that some were hurt here, like apartment building owners vulnerable to interest rate resets, and certain commercial sectors like office. Even worse, let's be sensitive to the fact that COVID in wars have resulted in a real loss of life. GRE's enduring strategy of primarily owning long-term residential rentals with fixed-rate debt has been comparatively really resilient. In fact, these calamities-they probably made you better off from the inflation that it has spurred. More people work from home. Well, that means that they're consuming our product while higher inflation debased our debt and jacked up our property values and our rents. And you know somehow every. single generation thinks that their collection of crises is uniquely terrifying, and it is not. And what do I mean by this? Well, in the 1980s, people feared war with the Soviet Union, the Cold War. A global population explosion so bad that millions or billions of people would surely die from hunger. You had the AIDS crisis. You had a hole in the ozone layer. Well, all those things. Virtually zero investors make decisions based on that stuff: an imminent Soviet attack or mass starvation from overpopulation. There is one thing that is 100% certain here, and that is that more shocks are coming. In case you don't want to sleep well, you can get worked up over the certainty of future calamities, artificial intelligence is making cyber attacks faster and more scalable. AI has even created entirely novel viruses. A confrontation between China and Taiwan that could create risk in the semiconductor space.   Keith Weinhold  8:18   A blockade that might disrupt the world's advanced chip supply, creating more inflation and more uncertainty. Here is what's changed, though, for what investors care about. You know what has changed with today's set of calamities versus those of the 1980s and earlier, because there is something, and it's a big deal for investors. Here's what's changed: recent history shows that the government does more to intervene during disasters, stimulus checks, liquidity programs where they're printing trillions, bailouts, pushing interest rates down to almost zero, quantitative easing. How about a foreclosure moratorium? Anything you know during COVID, it was a lot of these things, and it was the CARES Act, and it was a student loan payment pause. I mean, the Federal Reserve even set up emergency credit facilities. We now know that when the economic building catches fire, policymakers they rarely stand around admiring the flames. They just flood the place with currency. So the best investors they keep prudently building real estate portfolios in the face of risk, not the absence of risk, because the latter does not exist. This incessant government intervention, whether you agree with it or not, it gives you more safety cushions the next time that things fall apart. That's why what appears risk. Is still risky, but less so. So there is more incentive to take on prudent risk than I've ever seen. You know, no politician wants America to fall apart under their watch. So increasingly, they'll just paper over the problem by printing, printing, printing, and then, therefore, the resultant inflation, the consequence of this, that can be dealt with under the next president's watch, not theirs. In fact, future calamities they almost make you want to own scarce real assets that benefit from inflation, not a hedge, a benefit. Trying to time every war, election, banking crisis, tariff announcement, virus, and Fed decision. Trying to time all of those things-that is usually ineffective. You either own more assets, or you get left behind in everything that's happened since 2020. That just underscores this. In fact, Berkshire Hathaway, the closely watched company that Warren Buffett ran for a long time, but he still has influence in.   Keith Weinhold  11:16   You know, they recently began moving out of cash and into assets, they ended their long net selling stretch. In fact, in the latest quarter ended, they've now done the most buying that they've done since early 2022. They have jumped back in the game. It appears that Berkshire Hathaway got tired of sitting on the sidelines and seeing others make gains, and they're pretty bullish on housing too. They bought a home builder. The bottom line here is that shocks are going to keep arriving, and yet productive assets and well-financed residential real estate has repeatedly survived them and just continued appreciating. Don't wait for a risk-free world because you'll wait forever. When you evaluate all these calamities, just since 2020, again, COVID, Ukraine, Israel, Gaza, tariffs, and war in Iran, and then you realize that both real estate and stocks are near all-time highs anyway, and the government keeps backstopping asset owners like never before. This is just a fresh angle on how much better off you are when you prudently own more inflation-benefiting assets sooner. I want to tell you about something called the seven-figure solution. You've been here listening to me weekly since 2014. You've been earning money. You've been investing well, and now you're going to see how it all goes together. It's about making sure that your real estate and your other assets appropriately fund your retirement in a way that gives you protection against market downturns, a tax advantage pool of liquidity, the death benefit of a life insurance policy, and actually introduces you to a new form of leverage all at the same time. Now the liquidity here is key because this is where a 401(k) or IRA limit you, they have taxes and penalties if you want to use those funds early. This doesn't, but the seven-figure solution-it's not just for retirees. In fact, our own in-house investment coach Narayish uses something like this, and he is in his 30s. Let's discuss it, and then you'll see where I have an invitation for you, where you can get involved. I'd like to welcome in a guest we last had on the show a few years ago.   Keith Weinhold  13:54   He's a frequent guest on popular shows, including our friends over at the Real Estate Guys Radio Show, and this guest has also been a terrestrial radio show host himself. He's a long-time real estate educator and an active investor, just like you and I. So he speaks from experience and not a textbook. He's the creator of what we'll discuss today, called the Seven Figure Solution. Welcome back to the show, Jared Garfield.   Jared Garfield  14:21   Hey, it's great to be with you again. Thanks for having me.   Keith Weinhold  14:25   It's so good. Now you're with the Haven Bridge Group, and you help people, especially real estate investors, with what's called the seven-figure solution. Tell us about it.   Jared Garfield  14:37   it. Well, Haven Bridge, we get the name for that because people are really looking for a haven of safety, and the bridge is kind of what crosses the gaps that could kind of destroy your wealth, and it's the path to get there. So we want to take people on a path to safety, and the seven-figure solution is the idea that if you're going to be drawing out even 4% per year to not outlive your money, because people are living now. To 8590, 95 years old, and so that means you could have 35 years in retirement. And with inflation and different things like that, you really have to have a lot bigger nest egg than what most people realize. So a seven-figure solution is how to get to more than a million dollars liquid that you can draw on in a tax advantaged manner for the rest of your life, while also having living benefits. And we pull real estate in with it because we want people to have 10 or 15 or 20 rental properties by the time they retired. That they 1031 exchange regularly, so that they're always keeping tax advantages. So that even in retirement you have strong tax advantages, and ultimately we think that when you're 65 or 70, you might want to go from 30 single-family houses to 1031 exchange into one institutional asset that's a little bit less management intensive.   Keith Weinhold  15:57   Okay, so this is a tax advantage vehicle that real estate investors can use during their investing career, and those tax advantages then really convert into something that you can use in retirement as well.   Jared Garfield  16:11   Yes, what it does is it's a vehicle that instead of saving the money from your cash flow from your rental properties in the bank, we say, well, why wouldn't you rather invest in something where it grows tax-free, number one, and then number two, you don't have the penalties like you would with a 401k, where you get taxed and you get penalized 10% if you pull it out. It's liquid, usually about 80 to 90% liquid, so you can pull from it whenever you like, and you can use it for down payments to grow your real estate portfolio. But you can earn sometimes between five and even seven or 8% in a tax advantaged manner where you're not taxed on it, but you're earning a much higher return than if you put the cash flow into a bank.   Keith Weinhold  16:51   All right, so you're building this tax advantage pool of capital that grows over time, and this is important to have some liquidity. You know, Jared, I've often talked to our audience, about three to 5% of your portfolio value ought to be kept liquid. Maybe with a vehicle like this, you would want to put in more of that because real estate investors we have expenses, so you have this liquidity to cover things like vacancies and major repairs, or perhaps you could even use this account for future down payments on additional investment properties. Is that how it's utilized?   Jared Garfield  17:27   Yeah, absolutely. And I get it partially this way because in my early 20s, I got up to where I had about six rentals, and at the time, I also owned a real estate brokerage, and I was doing very well. I was making a six-figure income and things. And what happened is, I back when a   Keith Weinhold  17:41   six-figure income was a big deal.   Jared Garfield  17:43   Yeah, back in the early 2000s, it was a little bit better money. But the funny thing was, I had four rental properties that all went vacant at the same exact time, and so now all of a sudden, I was paying like 4500 bucks a month in mortgages, not counting the house I lived in, but I had to cover four mortgages on four of my rental properties all at the same time, and I hadn't saved the cash flow, so I didn't have a huge emergency fund. All my liquid capital went into down payments and into renovation money to rehab the properties. Okay, and so it put me in a real bind, and I was out driving a Volvo S80 around throwing two paper routes in the mornings, and then going to my real estate brokerage after my paper routes to cover those rental properties. And so this was basically meant as a way to say, okay, this is a way that I have the liquidity. I'm getting a higher return, but now my tenants are not only buying me the houses, but they're also giving me a couple million dollars in life insurance, and they're wrapping my investment component or the cash value of that, the cash value part of the policy. They're wrapping that in a way that it grows tax-free, so it just accomplishes a lot of things. But the other thing that's a beautiful thing about it is there's a lot of things that we call living benefits.   Keith Weinhold  19:02   All right, so you have the living benefits and the tax advantages, and I know how you have pointed out that this can save an investor 10s of 1000s of dollars in taxes per year and hundreds of 1000s or more over time. Can you tell us more about that?   Jared Garfield  19:20   Yeah, because what happens is the money that goes in is growing tax-free, so you don't get taxed on any of the growth. But what we really like about it is, let's say that you're cash-flowing $2,000 a month off your rental properties, and you're putting 2000 a month into this policy. Usually, after the first year, if you're max funding, 80 to 90% of that's liquid. So if you've got 24,000 sitting in there, you've got access to 89 to 90% of the money. So it's pretty liquid. But what happens is over a 20 or 30 year period, that money could turn into three or 400,000 a year that you can pull out in the form of policy loans. And by doing that, it's not taxed. And you can pull that out throughout your retirement tax-free. So if you were paying 25% in taxes and you're pulling out 200 grand a year, that's $50,000 a year in retirement that you're saving in taxes. But that could be over a 20 or 30-year period. So over 20 years, that 50,000 could end up being a lot of money. I mean, 500,000 over 10 years, a million over 20, and so that means you don't have to accumulate as much. But a lot of our investors love it because they'll save it up with discipline, and then that way it's there if the furnace blows. So it makes your real estate safer, but it also becomes your down payment funds to expand your portfolio.   Keith Weinhold  20:40   Okay, the seven-figure solution is the vehicle that we're talking about here, and what part of the IRS code, just briefly, is it that gives this tax advantage?   Jared Garfield  20:51   It's Internal Revenue Code Section 79 that allows it to grow tax-free. In the 1980 s, doctors and a lot of very wealthy people were using this to the point that IRS changed the laws. They went and sued the insurance companies because doctors would go in and dump $2 million in, and they would buy a $2 million life insurance policy. So they were self-insured, which meant that they didn't have any cost of mortality on it. So they basically got all the benefits of the tax-free growth and the tax-free pullout. And the IRS said, "Wait a minute! We think you're doing tax evasion. So what they did is they came around and they said, "We're not going to let you use this loophole anymore for the very wealthiest people to have this. So they came to a compromise, and the compromise was that if you wanted to put in 2 million, you had to maintain a corridor where there had to be a little bit higher amount of life insurance. So you might have to buy a $2.3 million policy, but then you could still dump, say, $2 million in and have all the tax advantages. It's a strategy that's been used for over 100 years by families like the Rockefellers and the Hunts and J.P. Morgan. The very wealthiest families have always used these strategies to grow and protect their wealth.   Keith Weinhold  21:59   Okay, so it's a part of the tax code that allows cash value to accumulate within and be withdrawn from a life insurance policy tax-free.   Jared Garfield  22:11   Correct, and it gives you living benefits, which I alluded to a minute ago. And the living benefits are if if you end up having to go through things like long-term care, disability, if you can't perform, you know certain functions for a certain period of time, chronic illness, critical illness, terminal illness. If any of those things happen to you, you can borrow against the policy and have access to money during those things that would normally decimate your wealth, because you can actually access the death benefit in advance.   Keith Weinhold  22:42   Now I know a little about the six risks. Tell us about that.   Jared Garfield  22:47   Well, Keith, there are six risks that all investors face regularly. The first one is inflation erosion, and that means that your purchasing power often ends up leaking out of your balance. And the balance might look fine, but inflation can eat away at it. So even if you've raised a lot of money, if inflation means that you can buy half as much five or 10 years from now, then you know your wealth isn't as big as you thought. The second is the volatility setback, and that's sequence of return risk. That means that if you retire on a bad year where things really bad, stock market drops, you could end up using your money at a time where it really weakens your wealth because it may have dropped by 50% So if you had a million, now you have a half a million, and you're spending 100,000 a year. At the end of year one, you might only have 400,000 left. So sequence of of return risks from volatility setback, tax drain. That's just the compounding cost of an uncoordinated tax picture can really be a problem, and then the next one is liquidity. If you don't have liquidity and you've locked up all your money and you can't access it until you're 59 and a half without significant taxation and 10% penalties, the liquidity lock is a problem. There's the longevity paradox. What happens if you outlive your money, you know. So living longer is a benefit, but it exposes you to where you might not have enough money to live on in your latter years. The last two are care avalanche, and that is if an unexpected health event happens at the wrong time, it could really destroy your wealth because medical costs have spiraled out of control, and then the last one is the line to land, and that's only one of the six that's really about growth.   Keith Weinhold  24:28   Right, only one of the six of those was about growth. I can't stand the longevity paradox. Yeah, we think we all want to live a long time, but then it's more difficult to fund living a long time, and if you outlive everybody, nobody shows up at your funeral either. The longevity paradox-one of the six risks that the seven-figure solution can really help you with. Now, tell us more about funding it, so you can get a good cash value balance in. There, I know that one way you do it is actually with short-term rentals instead of a paycheck.   Jared Garfield  25:06   We love short-term rentals, especially for our highest net worth clients, because the reason is is the bonus depreciation of the big beautiful bill. Oh, right! You could take up to like 150 or even $200,000 in year one, they take that depreciation that they used to spread out over a whole lot of years, and they make it to where if you get with your CPA and you analyze your short-term rental, you could potentially take all of the furnishings, all of the artwork, all of the dishes and things that are in the property. Sometimes they'll let you take components like the appliances, the air conditioning unit, the furnace, and they'll let you take it all in year one instead of having to line item it and spread it out over you know 27 and a half years. So what this means is, if you have a short term rental, then you you might get like 150 to 200,000 tax break in the first year on the right property, but it's better than that because instead of having to have like 750 hours to hit full-time real estate professional status, it cuts the hours that you have to have significantly down. I think it's more like 150 hours or something like that, or 300. It's like half the hours, and so you can hit the benefits of taking unlimited passive loss much easier if you have a couple of short-term rentals.   Keith Weinhold  26:24   You're listening to Get Rich Education. We're talking with Jared Garfield about the seven-figure solution, something that takes some time to understand, but it can give you a tax-advantaged pool of capital that grows over time, and it also creates this overall tailwind, not just during your investor life, but then it provides tax advantaged retirement income at the same time. More on this when we come back. 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Something that can be a particular benefit to real estate investors both during your investing career and then once you're in retirement as well, and this can take the form of either an indexed universal life policy or a whole life policy. There are a lot of wrong ways to do this and wrong things to get into. We're talking about the right way. Part of that is funding it as best you can. Can you tell us more about that?   Jared Garfield  29:20   Well, there's a lot of different ways to fund it. A lot of our clients will come in. We have some people who will use rollovers if they're nearing the end of retirement. Some people will roll over a 401k into a cash value life insurance policy because they can do it over a five or seven year period, and they pay the taxes when they roll it over, so their taxes go up a little bit for five or seven years of retirement, but then what happens is that means that during their retirement they're not taxed on the income all the way through retirement, so that can save really significantly. But a lot of our clients will do a flip and dump 40 or 50,000 a year in by just saying I'm going to do one flip a year and use that to. Fund the whole thing, or they'll take the cash flow and dump the cash flow into here instead of the bank, just so that they get the living benefits and they get the much higher return with still 80 to 90% liquidity. So could be cash flow from rentals, could be money from a flip, or sometimes some of these short-term rentals can make 20 to $30,000 a year, and if you get $100,000 tax break, you have more money that's not going to Uncle Sam, and then because that's your discretionary income now, because of the tax break, you could use that money to for down payments to grow your portfolio or to do a flip.   Keith Weinhold  30:35   Now, Jared, I sort of think of the cash value that you're accumulating in this policy as safe money that grows at a slow to moderate steady rate, but if it rarely or ever loses value, can you tell us more about that and the rate of return expected in the policy?   Jared Garfield  30:52   Yeah, absolutely. With the IULs, it's going to depend a little bit upon the carriers and stuff like that, and whether you go with a mutual company and stuff like that. It can vary, but a lot of times people are going with things that are what we call indexed. So you can actually index it to the S and p5 100 if you think that we're going to have a bull market and the market's going to really go up strongly. You can index it to the market, and sometimes they'll have a participation rate where they'll say, "Okay, you can participate up to 12% So if the stock market does 17% the most you can make is 12% So you're giving up a little bit of upside, but that's still not nothing. I mean, that's not three or 4% You can still make you know 10 or 12% that year, but you're giving up the part above the participation rate. And the reason that you do that is if the market tanks and drops by 30 or 40% The worst you can do is 0% return. Zero is my hero because you didn't lose anything. So if you had a half a million sitting there, you don't go down to 250 and then wait eight years to get back to break even. Instead, you're still at half a million. And if the market goes up next year by 20% and you had a 10% cap. Then your half a million, you know, is now at 550,000. When everybody else, if it went up by 10% they're at half the amount that they had.   Keith Weinhold  32:13   You have a story or example of how you've helped somebody with this, because I know a lot of investors that are passionate about utilizing the cash value inside an insurance policy tell us.   Jared Garfield  32:28   Well, I've got one friend who's a developer, and he did like a $5 million policy. And every time he flip a subdivision or flip a house, and let's back   Keith Weinhold  32:36   up. Does a $5 million policy mean that's the death benefit?   Jared Garfield  32:40   Yeah, that's the death benefit. Thanks for catching that. That's the death benefit, but that also has a correlation to how much money you can dump into it. So if you have a $5 million policy, you can dump a lot more money in for the tax free growth. And the quicker you hit that death benefit amount, at that point you're self-insured, and so at that point you really don't have cost of insurance on administering the policy hardly at all, and so at that point, when you're what we call self-insured, the return on the investment becomes a lot better. But this particular developer was able to use this policy because he had so much cash value in, and if he sold a house, he'd take 40,000. If he sold 10 a year, he might take you know 400,000 and dump it into this policy, and so it made him bankable. And he was able to use the money to go out and do new subdivision developments because the bank would actually use the policy as the collateral to be able to give him loans at much lower interest rates.   Keith Weinhold  33:38   That's valuable. Tell us about that. I don't want to use the wrong words here, but then effectively with this example, are you borrowing against the funds in the policy? So therefore, you can get those dollars working for you somewhere else, all while simultaneously the cash value continues to compound and grow. Sort of another form of leverage.   Jared Garfield  34:01   Correct. What they basically do is they basically freeze part of the amount and say, okay, we're using this as the collateral and stuff like that to be able to do the loan. But if it grows and and makes 7% you're still making the money off of the money that's sitting in there. It's just collateralized as part of the loan. And some people will even use it to like go buy a car, like instead of buying a car and going getting a bank loan and paying 7% to the bank, they might borrow money out, go pay cash for the car from the life insurance policy loan, and pay 2% instead of 7% But they're paying it to themselves, and as long as they're paying the interest to themselves, if the money that they borrow out could potentially still earn the same money and earn 7% even though you had borrowed out. So it's doing two things for you at the same time, as long as you're paying that loan interest. But and that depends on the option that you take when you do your loan.   Keith Weinhold  34:54   We love leverage around here. Leverage trumps compound interest. In so many ways. Oh, I'm really glad that you told us some more about that using the funds in more than one way at the same time. Tell us more about what it costs for the investor, the costs of setting this up, and then what some of those trade-offs are, Jared.   Jared Garfield  35:18   Well, that really depends on the individual. I mean, everybody has to sit down and be able to decide what is acceptable for them. You know, a lot of times people will want to max fund the 401k that they're doing at least just to the amount that's matched. But then after that, this could be a great place instead of putting a whole bunch more money into a 401k. Some people will elect to say, "I'm going to put the matching portion into my 401k, but then I'm going to take my cash flow from my real estate and money that I could have contributed to other alternatives and put it into this because I want the liquidity. I want to be able to leverage this money and pull it out without any restrictions. That as long as I can pull out 80 to 90 percent, I could go buy a car wash, or I could invest in a business, or I could, you know, do whatever I wanted to. I could loan it to my kids for their college and make them pay me loans back to my policy. There gives you a lot of flexibility to do it. But the thing that we love about it is we'll do what's called an illustration, and it may end up if you start at the right time, it could be a six-figure passive income stream at retirement, and then if you have the real estate, because this helped you grow your portfolio, where without doing the strategy, you might have ended up with say 10 properties. We might be able to get you to 20 or 30 properties working together as a team with your real estate coaches and stuff like that. Then we can potentially grow your real estate portfolio, and what we want to do is 1031 exchange every seven to eight years. I don't believe in holding properties for 30 years.   Jared Garfield  36:47   I believe in exchanging them every seven to eight years because when the tax benefits have been used up, if you exchange to twice the size portfolio, you have better appreciation on a portfolio worth twice as much. But that new value, you still get the depreciation advantages, where the old value that was half, you know, the depreciation is used up. So you're you're getting new depreciation on the higher value assets, and then our goal would be that by the time you don't want to be involved in managing the property managers, that at some point you're going to have a 200 unit apartment complex with on-site management, and at that point you don't have any financial worries really because you're 1031 exchanging into those apartment complexes, but you have so much equity that you're still maintaining depreciation during your retirement years. When most people who have lesser plans don't have the tax advantages,   Keith Weinhold  37:41   I love that you said so much of that, and to you, the listener, Jared is licensed to do this, and our own in-house investment coach. You mentioned coaching. Naresh has the proper licensing as well to holistically help integrate this into your investor life. And for example, yes, we are rarely of the mindset that you would hold a property for all 30 years because after seven to 10 years, your leverage ratio gets worn down, and then additionally, if you're buying turnkey properties, oftentimes that's when capex expenditures start to enter into the picture. So yes, oftentimes we do these seven to 10 year holds.    Jared Garfield  38:23   I love that. Yeah, that's a really really good strategy, and and it always makes it to where you can grow so much bigger portfolio by not being taxed through that exchange. And you know, believe it or not, there's actually even ways when you have extra cash boot, they do allow if you notify them in advance. Sometimes you can take some of the cash boot on the exchange and roll it into some of the products that we utilize.   Keith Weinhold  38:47   For more specifics, I know you said it's based on one's individual situation, but how much does it cost to set up a policy? And then, are there any ongoing maintenance fees? Can you give us more specifics there?   Jared Garfield  38:59   So, there's small fees to administer the policy because you have people who are trading and doing different things and working within the policy for the funds. But usually, you can set policies up as low as 100 or even $200 a month. We don't usually recommend that because you want to max fund it. Usually, when you're doing these strategies, if you're just doing $100 or $200 a month, you're basically buying life insurance, but you're missing a lot of the benefits because what you want to do is to be able to max fund it. So what we like people to do is get as minimum life insurance. That's not in our advantage because we get paid based on the premium of the amount of life insurance you get. But you get the smallest amount of life insurance for the amount that you can max fund. I would much rather have somebody get a $500 a month policy that, let's say, they could put you know a thousanmd a month in or something like that, than to have somebody get $1,000 a month policy where they're paying a thousand a month but they can't max fund it because by max funding it you're maximizing the growth component of the cash. Value, and so it depends on how much you want. But you can go anywhere from $100 or $200 a month to we have clients that will dump $20,000 a month in because they really want to shield as much money as they can from tax growth.   Keith Weinhold  40:15   Tell us more about who the seven-figure solution is for and who it's not for.   Jared Garfield  40:20   Well, if you're living month to month and you don't have discretionary income, it's probably not a good solution. In that situation, you probably want to get term insurance and just make sure that you cover catastrophic things. But if you've got discretionary income and you've got an extra four to $500 a month that you could use to max fund, we figure most people need life insurance anyway, and the way that we teach it, when you mix it with real estate, rather than pulling it from your monthly budget, doesn't it make a lot more sense to let your tenants buy the houses for you, but also pay for a half a million or a million dollar life insurance policy for you, where the tenants are covering the savings for anything that happens at the property with capex or vacancy or damage, and at the same time covering life insurance and potentially a six-figure passive income that's tax advantaged at retirement. So I pull the money out from other assets and let the assets cover this asset.   Keith Weinhold  41:18   Oh well, Jared, this has been great. Before I ask you if you have any last things to tell the audience about the seven-figure solution, I invite you, the audience, to join us. It's going to be Jared and our own in-house investment coach, Nareesh, bringing you a live online event that you can join from the comfort of your own home next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM Eastern. You can register now; it's free at grewebinars.com because there are a lot of moving parts, and it does take some time to wrap your head around this, benefiting from the cash value of an insurance policy. And this way you can have a Q and A, and you can get answers in real time at this event. It's called the Seven Figure Solution: Build wealth, reduce risk, and create tax advantage retirement income through real estate. Again, it is next Thursday, the 27th at 8p.m. Eastern, you probably have generated some questions inside your head while you're listening to this, and you can sure have them answered there as you're going to learn a whole lot more about it next Thursday. This could help a lot of people. Jared, do you have any last thoughts?    Jared Garfield  42:38   I think the only thing is that we like to work with the team. We like to work with your CPA. We like to work with your real estate investment coach. I used to be a coach and trainer for Robert Kiyosaki, who wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, and he always talked about power teams. And so we want to be able to be a part of your power team and work with your other advisors to help you implement something. We're not here to give you tax advice. We want you to be able to work with your investment advisors and your CPAs, and just be a part of the team. But I would point out that over my career, I've owned hundreds and hundreds of single-family cash flow rentals, duplexes, fourplexes, apartment complexes. I've done some land development, and I implement these strategies myself. I had 17 Airbnbs, and so these are the strategies that I implemented as a full-time real estate professional. I felt like that this strategy of having a seven-figure solution could help you to avoid some of the pitfalls that I experienced in my 20s.   Keith Weinhold  43:32   So much all comes together for one pretty comprehensive solution. It's the intersection of growing your portfolio, getting tax advantages and having the death benefits of insurance and more all coming together next Thursday, so that you can learn more. Jared, it's been great having you back on the show.   Jared Garfield  43:52   Thanks, Keith. Always glad to join you.   Keith Weinhold  44:00   Integrate the seven-figure solution the GRE way, where we have this conscientiousness about leverage and cash flow. In this case, it's how to prudently leverage a life insurance policy. When it's time to tap your cash value, you take what is a policy loan, not a withdrawal, because you're borrowing against your cash value, hence using the funds in more than one place, and the IRS does not tax loan proceeds. This reminds me of a billionaire and how they borrow against the value of their stock. That way, they don't have to sell their assets. This is similar to what you can do with this. Another thing is that you know real estate investors are not used to a volatile ride because our asset values stay stable. You heard Jared mention the acronym IUL there. That's an indexed universal life policy. It's a real benefit. That says you tie yours to the S and P five hundred. Well, that index was down 18% in 2022, and that your cash value can have an upside ceiling and loss protection on the downside-an option that you'll care more about as you get toward retirement. In 2008, the S&P was down 37% so the math is cruel on value losses. In fact, it's even worse than it sounds because if you're down 30%, then you need a 43% gain just to get back to even. That is just math.   Keith Weinhold  45:39   There are some mistakes to avoid here, and you don't just want to set up your seven-figure solution off of a website. And it is based on products that you might have heard of from companies like Nationwide and Mass Mutual. I strongly encourage you learn more, see how it all goes together, learn how the seven-figure solution compares to other vehicles like a Roth IRA, 401k, 721 exchange, and 1031 exchange. This is very much about seeing your future. You've been listening to me here every week for almost 12 years, earning money from your day job, building your real estate portfolio, either from our investment coaching or on your own. This is how it all goes together. Next week with Jared and GRE investment coach Naresh. By attending live, you can have your questions answered in real time. One last time, you can sign up for the event for next Thursday, the 27th at 8 PM. Eastern, 5 PM. Pacific. Learn about something that's potentially really valuable to you: the seven-figure solution at grewebinars.com. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 2  46:59   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  47:26   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building, getricheducation.com  

Ray pays tribute to one of the books that kicked off his own entrepreneur journey back in 2004 — Robert Kiyosaki's Rich Dad Poor Dad. Before digging into the sales lessons, Ray shares the behind-the-scenes story of how that book almost never made it: rejected by publishers, self-printed in car washes, and saved by a 200,000-copy invoice from Amway legend Dexter Yager. That hustle story alone is worth the listen. From there, Ray pulls out the real gold — the sales principles woven throughout Kiyosaki's teachings that most people skip right past. Whether you're an entrepreneur, employee, or investor, you are always selling. Fear of rejection keeps people poor. And passive income dreams mean nothing if your active income skills aren't sharp first. Ray makes it plain: no matter what industry you're in, you're in the sales and marketing business. Master that, and everything else opens up.

Executive Summary Wade Borth revisits Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrants and picks up a thread the book never finishes: every quadrant, employee, self-employed, business owner, or investor, still depends on a bank. Wade argues the real shift isn't earning more new money, it's taking permanent control of the old money already flowing through your life. He lays out how a properly structured whole life policy lets you step into the banking function yourself.   Key Takeaways Every side of Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant, employee, self-employed, business owner, or investor, still runs through a bank somewhere. Most people chase new money instead of gaining control of the old money already passing through their hands. Nelson Nash's Becoming Your Own Banker hinges on one word: becoming. It's a shift in thinking before it's a shift in dollars. A properly structured whole life policy lets you use the insurance company's money, not your own, while your cash value keeps compounding. Wade's exercise: of every dollar that will ever flow through your life, how much do you want permanent control over? Links and Resources Sage Wealth Strategy: sagewealthstrategy.com Keywords Cashflow Quadrant, infinite banking concept, be your own banker, whole life insurance, cash value, policy loans, permanent control of money, family banking, guaranteed asset, generational wealth, financial liquidity, liquidity bucket, Nelson Nash, Robert Kiyosaki, Sage Wealth Strategy, Wade Borth podcast, old money vs new money, banking function, mutual carrier, dry powder Episode Highlights [00:02:00 - 00:03:00]  Wade unpacks Nelson Nash's core lesson: the real challenge in Becoming Your Own Banker is who you need to become. [00:04:00 - 00:05:00]  Wade breaks down why Kiyosaki never fully explains where whole life insurance fits inside the Cashflow Quadrant. [00:06:00 - 00:07:00]  Wade explains why banks sit in the middle of every transaction, profiting whether you're a saver or a borrower. [00:07:00 - 00:08:00]  The distinction between chasing new money and controlling the old money already in your hands. [00:08:00 - 00:09:00]  Wade lays out the shift: replace the banker in your life with yourself. [00:11:00 - 00:12:00]  Why policy loans let you use the insurance company's money instead of your own, while your cash value keeps growing. [00:16:00 - 00:17:00]  The $100,000 exercise: how much of the money that flows through your life should you actually control?

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The average American spends over $900 a month on car payments for a depreciating asset. Here is how to stop and what to do with that money instead. 

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In this episode, we sit down with Garrett Gunderson, entrepreneur, financial educator, and bestselling author of Money Unmasked and Killing Sacred Cows 2.0, to challenge some of the most common beliefs about money and wealth creation… For more than 25 years, Garrett has helped business owners and entrepreneurs rethink traditional financial advice, showing them how to increase cash flow, reduce financial inefficiencies, and build lasting wealth without sacrificing the life they want to live today. Known for his unconventional approach to personal finance, Garrett encourages people to move beyond outdated financial rules by focusing on increasing their value, protecting what they earn, and making intentional financial decisions rather than relying solely on conventional investing strategies. This conversation explores: The biggest financial myths that prevent people from building wealth. Why earning more can often be more impactful than simply cutting expenses. How taxes, interest, fees, and financial inefficiencies quietly reduce long-term wealth. The importance of cash flow and financial flexibility. Garrett is the author of ten books on personal finance and entrepreneurship, and has had work published in the Wall Street Journal, USA Today, and more. His insights have been endorsed by leading financial and business authors, and he has shared the stage with influential speakers including the Dalai Lama, Richard Branson, Tony Robbins, and Robert Kiyosaki. Through his books, speaking engagements, and educational programs, Garrett continues to help individuals rethink their relationship with money and build wealth on their own terms. Connect with Garrett: Website Instagram Get your free Money Book Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/garrettbgunderson/  X: https://x.com/GBGunderson  Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@GarrettGundersonTV  Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@garrettgunderson_ 

John Taylor Gatto uses Robert Kiyosaki's rocky path, including bankruptcy, to argue that real learning comes from experience and mistakes, not classroom instruction. For homeschoolers, this raises a core question: how do we build environments where our kids can safely run their own "personal feedback loops" instead of fearing failure? Show notes are at https://www.4onemore.com/358

You can have all the goals in the world. Write them down every morning. Vision board them on your wall. But if you're not becoming the person those goals actually require, nothing is going to change. In this solo episode, Ray Higdon cuts straight to the truth: most people don't fail because they lack goals. They fail because they won't do the personal becoming that the goal demands. And he's not just talking theory here. Ray walks you through a powerful exercise to expose the gap between what you want and who you currently are, then backs it up with real stories. A guy named Eric who skipped his mortgage payment to fly to Malaysia on a hunch and built a team of 20,000 people a month. A plumber named Roger who started filming himself unclog toilets, got laughed at for a year, and ended up with a $2 million sponsorship deal. These weren't lucky breaks. They were leaps of faith made by people who chose to become someone new. Ray ties it all back to scripture too, reminding us that Abraham, Joseph, Peter, and every other person God used greatly had to walk through discomfort to get to the fruit. The question isn't whether you have bold enough goals. The question is whether you're bold enough to become the person capable of reaching them.

In this episode of the Grow A Small Business Podcast host Troy Trewin interviews Adiel Gorel, Founder of International Capital Group, shares how he went from being a Hewlett-Packard engineer to building a 42-year real estate investment business that has helped investors purchase more than 10,000 homes. He explains why long-term thinking, fixed-rate mortgages, and staying calm during market downturns create lasting wealth. Adiel also discusses scaling a business, leading through economic cycles, building the right mindset, and avoiding panic when recessions hit. His journey offers practical lessons on entrepreneurship, resilience, and financial freedom through disciplined investing. Check out Adiel Gorel's book, Remote Control Retirement Riches: How to Change Your Future with Rental Homes. In this practical guide, he shares the proven strategies that have helped investors build long-term wealth through rental properties. Whether you're a first-time investor or looking to grow your portfolio, the book offers actionable insights on creating financial freedom through smart real estate investing. Why would you wait any longer to start living the lifestyle you signed up for? Balance your health, wealth, relationships and business growth. And focus your time and energy and make the most of this year. Let's get into it by clicking here.   Troy delves into our guest's startup journey, their perception of success, industry reconsideration, and the pivotal stress point during business expansion. They discuss the joys of small business growth, vital entrepreneurial habits, and strategies for team building, encompassing wins, blunders, and invaluable advice.   And a snapshot of the final five Grow A Small Business Questions:  What do you think is the hardest thing in growing a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that the hardest part of growing a small business is living with uncertainty and accepting that the responsibility ultimately rests on the owner. Unlike a traditional job, there is no guaranteed paycheck, and every decision affects both the business and the employees who rely on it. He emphasizes that entrepreneurs must stay resilient, take ownership, and remain prepared for both opportunities and setbacks. What's your favorite business book that has helped you the most? Adiel Gorel shares that one of the business books he highly recommends is his own, Remote Control Retirement Riches, which reflects decades of real estate investing experience. He also praises Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki for its powerful lessons on wealth creation and financial mindset, noting that its principles have inspired countless aspiring investors and entrepreneurs. Are there any great podcasts or online learning resources you'd recommend to help grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that while he doesn't regularly follow business podcasts, he spends much of his learning time exploring health and wellness content. He believes maintaining good health gives entrepreneurs the energy, focus, and mental clarity needed to build and grow a successful business over the long term. What tool or resource would you recommend to grow a small business? Adiel Gorel shares that every business needs a balance between simplicity and effective systems. He recommends using reliable accounting software like QuickBooks to stay organized, manage finances efficiently, and gain a clear understanding of the business's financial health as it grows. What advice would you give yourself on day one of starting out in business? Adiel Gorel shares that he would remind his younger self that business moves in cycles, with both booms and downturns. He advises entrepreneurs not to become overconfident during good times or panic during recessions, emphasizing that patience, preparation, and staying the course are often the keys to long-term success.  Book a 20-minute Growth Chat with Troy Trewin to see if you qualify for our upcoming course. Don't miss out on this opportunity to take your small business to new heights! Enjoyed the podcast? Please leave a review on iTunes or your preferred platform. Your feedback helps more small business owners discover our podcast and embark on their business growth journey.   Quotable quotes from our special Grow A Small Business podcast guest: You are not a cog in the machine you are the machine - Adiel Gorel Success comes from staying focused while time and patience do the heavy lifting - Adiel Gorel The biggest mistakes in business happen when fear replaces long term thinking - Adiel Gorel      

This episode was sponsored by Cardiff, Integrity Meter Solutions &The Nunn Better Podcast   LightSpeed VT: https://www.lightspeedvt.com/ Dropping Bombs Podcast: https://www.droppingbombs.com/ Today's Dropping Bombs episode goes underground with Johnny Nunn, co-founder of Integrity Meter Solutions — a guy who's spent nearly 30 years in the plumbing and water world, working every job from meter reader to service manager before betting on himself.   Johnny breaks down how leak detection and submetering have cut water waste by up to 80% in multifamily properties, the day his biggest client walked away and forced a total rebuild, and why a mechanical device called the Water Block could stop the next catastrophic flood in your own house.   Water is the one bill nobody questions — until it's too late. This episode shows you exactly what you're missing.  

7/16/2026 POSTERITY OVER AUSTERITY: INVESTING IN WHAT LASTSEPISODE 1825“Having been raised with a poverty mindset, I deeply understand the complexity of redrafting the perception surrounding wealth.” J Loren Norris Posterity over Austerity: Investing in What LastsThere is a dramatic contrast between a culture of fear-based cost cutting and legacy-minded investing.  There is also a dramatic contrast of belief about whose role it is to manage wages, prices, productivity and profits. Some research done for you: https://youtu.be/zxVoCw3P1Gc?is=eEFSIfSDR0wGek_NConsider the advice of Robert Reich vs Thomas Sowell when making decisions about your financial strategies. Consider Cash Flow Quadrant by Robert Kiyosaki or Money Master the best Game by Anthony Robbins. Leaders safeguard the future of their organization during tight seasons. One way they do this is building the legacy of their people.  Strengthening posterity, the hope of those who will become your successors, this is the greatest return on investment possible. IMHO If the government is given that choice, if the government makes the investment, the government expects the rewards. If the people make that investment, the people should get the reward. Whoever takes the greater risk should receive the greater benefit. Become your own best benefactor. RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THIS VIDEO:

If you've ever told yourself you just need to be more consistent, Ray Higdon has something to say about that — and it might shift everything. In this solo episode, Ray breaks down why consistency isn't actually your problem. After two decades of coaching thousands of people, he keeps seeing the same root cause underneath the struggle, and it has nothing to do with habits, routines, or discipline. It's a belief problem. Ray gets personal here. He shares a powerful story about a panic attack backstage at Funnel Hacking Live in Nashville, in front of 5,000 people, and how that moment cracked open a deep belief he had carried since third grade — that trusting people leads to betrayal. That one belief quietly shaped how he showed up in relationships for years without him even knowing it. The same thing is happening with consistency. If part of you believes success means losing money, becoming someone you despise, getting cut off from family, or being hit up for cash, your subconscious will do the most efficient thing possible: keep you from being consistent. You can read every habits book ever written and nothing will stick until you ask yourself what you actually believe success will do to your life. That's where the real work begins.

Keith Weinhold explains why inflation has become a permanent part of the post–World War II economy and what that shift means for today's financial system.  He breaks down economist Dr. Mark Skousen's five structural reasons behind never-ending inflation and ties them to the hollowing out of the middle class and the "last generation to live normally" concept.  Keith then introduces opportunity cost as the biggest financial expense most people overlook and illustrates how leveraging low-cost, long-term debt to buy productive real assets can turn inflation into an advantage.  He closes by outlining a practical hierarchy for which debts to eliminate first and which to keep as tools for long-term wealth building. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. In less than 40 years, America has gone from 75% gasoline to permanent inflation. Then learn about the biggest financial expense you will ever have in your life. It's not taxes, housing, interest charges, inflation, children, or healthcare. Most people have never heard of it today on Get Rich Education. You know, Mid South Homebuyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties. It's an executive coach. For nine years now. Their CEO Terry Kerr and his COO Pat Nix have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one-on-one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to DanielThomashHind.com. H-I-N-D. That's DanielThomashHind.com, and sign up before spots fill.   Keith Weinhold  1:41   What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal and even chat directly with President Chaley Ridge. While it's on your mind, start at ridgelendinggroup.com. That's ridgelendinggroup.com.   Speaker 1  2:14   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world, this is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:31   Welcome to GRE from Bavaria, Germany, to Batavia, New York, and across 188 world nations. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you're listening to Get Rich Education. In the 19 the 1988 movie Die Hard, there's a California gas station sign in the background that's visible. You can see it there. The gas price on this sign is a jaw dropper. Unleaded 77.9 cents per gallon, regular 70-4.9 cents per gallon. That now looks like it belongs in a museum next to rotary phones and blockbuster video cards. Yes, California gas for 75 cents, and the movie Die Hard. It had all these actors from yesteryear, like Bruce Willis and Reginald Vel Johnson. Yet you, depending on your age, you might remember 1988. It's not like ancient history. Now we all know that inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon, like Milton Friedman said, but is there more to this? Is there more than the Fed targeting 2% inflation, just like it says on their website? Oh, there sure is. And by the way, with a little research, it looks like California Gas averaged 95 cents in 1988, not 75 like it shows in Die Hard, but in any case, the point is still there. And today, inflation keeps running hot. Four years ago, the pandemic made CPI inflation peak at 9.1 percent. Today, the hangover effects of tariffs push it up, and the Iran war are turning up the heat even more, with the latest reading above 4% Inflation is running at more than double what the Fed wants. You can even make the case now that inflation is out of control. But here's the thing: inflation has exceeded that 2% target for 60-three consecutive months now. I mean, think about what that means. My gosh, just imagine having an important target that affects every American and missing it 60-three times in a row. That's kind of what's happening now, and they're. Going to keep missing it. So this streak of inflation above 2% started back in March of 2021 during the pandemic hangover, and it is still going strong after 63 months. Nobody knows where this is going to end. Most Americans get crushed by rising prices because their wages don't keep up, and you know collectively they sort of think we are concerned, but then they mostly keep doing the same thing while their lifestyle quietly shrinks. So consumers despise inflation. Everyday investors are lukewarm about inflation, and leverage real estate investors are smiling like they found a 20-dollar bill in last winter's coat. Leverage real estate investors are pretty ecstatic about inflation. Now the history gets super interesting.   Keith Weinhold  5:59   Okay, how did we get into this, where we just always seem to have inflation? So learn the history, and then I'll tie it back to how it affects you as an investor. Because before World War II, inflation behaved differently. The old pre-1945 pattern was that we had inflation during wars and booms. We had deflation after panics and depressions. So therefore, the result was that over long stretches, price levels often just moved sideways. We used to have recessions more often back 80 plus years ago than we do now. So therefore, you just had these price levels move sideways because a recession even prompted deflation, actually a strengthening of purchasing power. But then after World War II, inflation basically went permanently positive. I mean, yeah, permanently positive, where inflation is just always turned on with very few exceptions to that. In wartime, now we have inflation. In peacetime, now we have inflation. During the Super Bowl, now we have inflation. It is inflation, no matter what is going on. Right then, so what changed? Prominent economist and GRE podcast guest here, Dr. Mark Skousen. He has cited five major reasons that inflation became a permanent fixture from 1945 until today. And Mark Skousen was here on the show with us almost exactly two years ago because he's also the founder of a great event called Freedom Fest that Nareesh and I broadcast a show from, the five reasons that Scowson cites for never-ending inflation are first, never-ending wars. Now this doesn't only mean formally declared boots on the ground wars where tanks are rolling, never-ending wars. It means this permanent state of global military readiness that we have today, where we have overseas bases, defense contractors, right with the military-industrial complex. We have NATO commitments.   Keith Weinhold  8:17   We have anti-terror operations, naval patrols, intelligence agencies, and all this enormous machinery that's required to keep America as the world's security backstop. Well, all that costs an awful lot of money, and when government wants more money than it collects, it has a favorite trick: just create more dollars and create them out of nothing. I mean, it's like ordering another round of drinks for the table and then putting it on the unborn grandchildren's tab. The second reason for the never-ending inflation is the 1913 creation of the Federal Reserve and how that's changed over time because the Fed they were originally supposed to defend the dollar, defend the gold standard, and act as lender of last resort. Today it mostly just does the last one. It acts as the lender of last resort, and it's really not even last resort. I mean, she shit seems to patch any significant hole in the economy by creating more dollars and then pumping them into the system. When markets wobble, banks panic, or politicians overspend, or the economy catches any kind of cold, you know, the Fed often just shows up with this fire hose of liquidity. Now, sometimes that's necessary, but either way, it means more currency creation. So, the Fed it began as this sort of sober hallway monitor, but now they're often the responsible party that needs monitoring. But no. No one is going to stand up and do it because no one in power wants austerity under their watch because that is extremely unpopular. The third reason for permanent inflation is the Bretton Woods Agreement. You've probably heard of this, but let me summarize what it briefly means. Okay, Bretton Woods was the 1944 deal that basically created the post-World War II global monetary system? It made the U.S. dollar the world's reserve currency. If you remember anything from Bretton Woods, just remember that it did that. It made the U.S. dollar the world's reserve currency, and the dollar was pegged to gold at $35 per ounce.   Keith Weinhold  13:29   And finally, the fifth reason for never-ending inflation post World War II is Keynesian economics. I mean, you probably at least heard the term before. It's been thrown around here from time to time. Named after John Maynard Keynes, K E Y N E S. And before I go on, I invested in real estate for a long time before I learned all this stuff. Probably close to a decade of investing first. So I taught myself this material, Keynesian economics. That's the belief that demand is what drives economic output and employment. So, if you only remember one thing about Keynesian economics, it's that you need demand, and it stokes demand. It says demand drives everything, and what I mean by that is the spending, spending from households, corporations, and government. So, in plain English, when private demand weakens, the government should step in and spend. That's what Keynesian economics says. Well, that means deficits, borrowing, stimulus, support, programs, relief, rescue packages, emergency measures, and see what happens is that temporary measures somehow become permanent measures wearing a fake mustache. Remember, even Nixon said removal from the gold standard is temporary. Well, that was now 50. 55 years ago, in theory, the government runs deficits in bad times and then tightens up in good times. But that doesn't really happen because, in practice, government often runs deficits in bad times and good times, war times, peace times, election years, non-election years, leap years, all the time running deficits, spending more than we take in, and when deficits become normal, well, then currency creation has got to follow. That's the consequence. Well, these five forces that I told you about for never-ending inflation, the reasons that I just shared with you-they are now structurally embedded. They are not going away.   Keith Weinhold  19:03   I mean, there is even political resistance to deflation in this system. Investors benefit the most when they own one thing: real assets tied to long-term debt. You probably knew that I was going to say that because if the dollar is designed to slowly melt. You don't want to be the one holding the ice cube. You want to own the freezer. That's the control that you have. The first half of the year recently ended. It's time for our asset class rundown. From the midpoint of last year to the midpoint of this year, single-family home values are up only about one and a half percent. That's the average of Case-Shiller and FHFA. Apartment building values are down 1% in the past year. When it comes to rents per Zillow, single-family home rents are up 2.8% in the past year to an all-time record of almost 20-$300 Apartment rents are up just. 1.3% nationally. Sunbelt Apartments were the weak spot. Apartments.com said the South was down seven tenths of 1% year over year, and the mountain region down one and a half percent. With San Antonio, Denver, Austin, and Phoenix among the weaker markets, that's due to oversupply in those areas. 30-year mortgage rates down from 6.8 to 6.6% The S S&P 500 up 21 percent on AI optimism, despite a war in Iran. Though down in past months for the year, gold is still up 21 percent, silver soared 63 percent, Bitcoin down 45 percent. I mean, speculative digital assets have really gotten a cold shoulder. Oil up 4% although it went on a wild ride, and CPI inflation reheated to 4.2% That's our asset class rundown.   Speaker 2  22:59   This is our rich dad poor dad author Robert Kiyosaki. Listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Keith Weinhold  23:17   Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host Keith Weinhold. I want you to listen to something along with me, and then I'll come back to comment. This is from the parallel truth. It's called the last generation to live normally, and it's less than two minutes in length.   Speaker 2  23:32   We have to talk about something that sounds dramatic, but it is becoming true. Your parents may have been the last generation to live a normal life-not an easy life, not a perfect life, but a life where the basic deal still made sense. You could get a stable job, you could buy a house, you could raise children, you could save some money, you could retire one day. And even if life was hard, most people still believed that if they worked honestly, their future would slowly get better. But look at what happened to your generation. You work more, but own less. You study more, but feel less secure. You have more technology than any generation in history, but less peace, less time, and less confidence about the future. Your parents were told, "Work hard, and you will build a life. But you are being told that, "Work hard, and maybe you can afford rent. And the most disturbing part is that this did not happen overnight. It happened slowly. First, housing became an investment instead of a basic need. Then, education became a debt trap. Then, healthcare became too expensive. Then, stable jobs disappeared. Then, everything became a subscription: your house, your car, your software, your entertainment, even your future. Everything slowly became something you rent but never truly own. And while ordinary people were falling behind, the economy kept looking strong on paper. The stock market went up, billionaires got richer, companies made record profits. Politicians kept saying that everything was fine, but if everything is fine, why does an entire generation feel like it is drowning? The truth is, your parents did not live through normal history. They lived through a rare window where ordinary people. People were allowed to share in the wealth of the system, but that window is now closing. The old promise was simple: work hard, buy a home, raise a family, retire with dignity. The new promise is different: work forever, rent everything, delay children, carry debt, and call it freedom. So maybe young people are not lazy. Maybe they are just the first generation honest enough to admit that the old deal is dead. Your parents were not lucky because life was easy. They were lucky because they were the last ones who got the deal before it was taken away.   Keith Weinhold  25:27   Yeah, there it is-the last generation to live normally. That's really a fresh slant on the hollowing out of the middle class. The rules have changed. Inflation is entrenched. Now you know why. Back in 2020, the pandemic accelerated that effect, and yet it's just unbelievable to me that people think working hard and saving money is enough to get you the lifestyle that you desire. Now I am not against hard work, it's the fact that people think that that's all that it takes. Before we hit the permanent inflation era, it might have made sense for you to say, save your money, pay all cash for a cheap fixer-upper property, and work hard for years to fix it up yourself. Oh, and then you could own a modest home debt-free. Today, even if you could do that, why would you? Instead, you can just prudently finance your way through life. You could have instead borrowed for two or three already renovated properties and let debt, inflation, and perhaps even tenants do the work for you. Above all, do the right thing before you do things right. That's what I like to say. Well, the way you get wealthy is by owning a lot of assets, not by grinding in the salt mines to pay off your debt. Those that are debt free are often asset poor. The biggest financial expense that you will ever have in your life. Do you know what it is? It is not taxes or interest charges. It's not even inflation or housing or healthcare or having children, most people have never heard of it. You probably have, but most people have never heard of this biggest financial expense you'll ever have, and they certainly don't know how to avoid it.   Keith Weinhold  27:34   Say that you're 35 years old and you put 100k under a mattress for 30 years until you're 60- years old. Instead, if that would have been invested at a 12% annual return, do you know how much that would have grown to? That would have grown to $2.996 million All right, basically 3 million bucks, a 30x increase. Therefore, it would be a 2.9 million dollar mistake to save money, and what this means is that the biggest expense you'll ever pay in your life is called opportunity cost. Yeah, opportunity cost is life's biggest expense. It's the return that was foregone when you chose one option over another. So opportunity cost is not what you spend; it's what your money could have become had you put it somewhere more productive. All right, now that was a pretty extreme example of 100k under a mattress. As a listener to this show, you are probably more savvy than a person that would save big lumps of money for close to zero return. Let me give you a better example of how when you pay all cash for something, you've usually just made your future self poorer. A friend of mine heard the episode last year where I talked about buying a new car for myself, a BMW X3 SUV. As it is, you probably remember that episode. Though I could have paid all cash for the car, I put the minimum down payment in there and then financed as much as I could because of a favorable 4% interest rate that I got on a car loan. Well, my friend Jesse heard that episode. This influenced him. So what he did is he bought a Subaru for his wife. Although he had planned to pay all cash and could have paid all cash for the car, Jesse got financing, and he did better than me. He got just a 1% interest rate somehow. Wow! It was actually nine tenths of 1% but let's just call it 1% What a deal! Instead of paying all cash for the car, he held on to that chunk of money. Instead of tying it up in a depreciating asset, he is financing it all. Now I don't. How much the Subaru costs, but let's just say it was 50k to keep the numbers simple. Well, look, if Jesse feels like he can get a 10% return over time by investing his money instead of sinking it into a car, how much does he profit by borrowing? Of course, he has the advantage of keeping his funds more liquid as well, but how much does he actually profit from this arrangement?   Keith Weinhold  30:24   Well, the math is so easy that you can even visualize it in an audio format here. Now it depends on the loan term, but the simple spread is a 10% investment return minus a 1% car loan cost. That is a 9% positive spread on 50k. That's roughly $4,500 per year in benefit. That's before any taxes, risk, or fees. $4,500 a year just for doing some loan paperwork. Like if you wonder whether the loan paperwork is worth it or not, that's what we're talking about here, and that's 375 bucks a month. So if you're wondering if it's even worth it taking the time to get a car loan when you could pay all cash, it probably is. All right, now that's the upside. What about the risk that's associated with taking a loan instead of paying all cash, well, the caveat here is that the 1% loan is guaranteed, but the 10% return is probably not, and that risk gap does matter. If you're financially fragile and you can't make the payment with another pot of money, well, then you risk default. That is over leverage risk. That's the worst case scenario. All right, what's the flip side? The flip side is that you could earn a return even better than 10% As we know, with real estate pays five ways on investment property. If you earn a 20% return, now you're making $9,500 a year on the spread, not $4,500, but a 10% return. That is the base case. So again, by paying all cash instead of getting the loan, your future self would be poorer by $4,500 a year. And now, my friend Jesse, that learned this from me, he's actually a CFA, a chartered financial analyst, a sophisticated money guy. But he had simply been overlooking this. And said another way, what you're doing here is that over time, your investment is paying you more than your interest is costing you, and in my life, I have been doing exactly this sort of thing all over the place for decades. An interesting thing that I hear about this, although it makes me scratch my head, I've heard a few people say this. It's just like, oh well, I don't want to have to deal with a car payment? I just rather be done with it and move on. What is there to deal with? Just set up auto pay with preserving funds for say a 10% return. You're then going to see more dollars flowing into your account than you will out of it. I mean that part can just be automated.   Keith Weinhold  33:19   My life and finances are set up this way. In fact, when I get a loan for a rental property, I have had mortgage loan officers that are looking at my finances. They tell me that I have more stuff flowing into and out of my checking account than they've ever seen anyone have. I'm I'm financing and arbitraging my way through life passively. This is thanks in part to inflation. I am not paying very much at all in that biggest financial expense that we all have in our lives-not taxes or children or housing, but opportunity cost. I am avoiding paying that. This is the world that we live in today, a lot of times debt reduction is horrible advice. Debt free that can keep people from falling over a cliff, but it stalls any wealth creation. Now the debts that usually make the most sense to pay down they're the ones with high interest, variable rates, no tax benefit, and no productive asset attached. And here is the priority order that I use for paying down debt or paying off debt. First, it is credit cards. Pay down these first almost every time. I mean, a 20% or even 30% credit card rate. This is like financial quicksand. You don't need a sophisticated investment thesis when you can get a guaranteed 20-4% quote-unquote return by eliminating this debt. The next place I would pay down are payday loans, personal. Loans and consumer finance debt. I mean, these are usually bad debts because they're at a high rate, have a short amortization, and they're usually tied to consumption instead of an income-producing asset. Pay these aggressively too, and then next in priority is paying variable rate debt that could reset higher. This isn't quite as important to address.   Keith Weinhold  35:24   We're talking about things like HELOCs, adjustable rate loans, margin debt, and some business lines of credit. Some of those can become dangerous when rates rise, even if the rate's tolerable today. The uncertainty can be a bit of a problem. Now, when it comes to should you pay down student loans, consider that. low fixed-rate student loans that might not be urgent. It sure wasn't for me. High-rate private student loans that could be different. That could get more of your attention. You also got to weigh things like tax benefits. Look out for forgiveness programs when it comes to student loans, those haven't been quite as available lately under this administration. Also, look at employer repayment benefits before you rush to pay down student loans, and then really the last one: low fixed-rate mortgage debt. Pay that last if you ever do. In fact, it is quite possible that I will always keep this debt type around that low fixed rate mortgage debt. So really, my rule of thumb here is to kill toxic debt. Be careful with unstable debt, and don't rush to pay off cheap fixed productive debt if you ever pay it off at all. You and I covered a lot of ground today, starting with 75 cent gasoline in California, all the way to the biggest expense you'll ever pay throughout your life, being something that most people have never heard of: opportunity cost. Coming up on the show here, a lot of good episodes, including a great guest and I are going to discuss a new way to invest in residential real estate that we haven't discussed before, and it will massively boost your cash flow. If you found today's show valuable, whether it was the history of why we have permanent inflation or the idea of passively financing your way to wealth, rather than only working harder. I would be grateful if you share this episode with a friend. Just tap the share button in Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen, and send it to someone who would benefit from hearing it. Or take a screenshot of this episode and post it on social media. It helps more people find the show, and it gives you and your friends something smart to talk about with each other. Until next week, I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  37:53   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal, or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Keith Weinhold  38:21   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth building at getricheducation.com.  

Most people believe wealth is just about cash flow or quick returns. But what if the real wealth reveals itself over decades—thanks to principles rooted in faith, societal order, and strategic patience? In this episode, Jimmy busts the myth of the 1% rule and shows how ignoring long-term dynamics is costing high-income investors millions in opportunity cost. Discover why the so-called "dead" 1% rule is just the tip of the iceberg—and how recent market conditions demand a completely different approach. Jimmy dives into the four pillars of wealth—appreciation, leverage, tax advantages, and long-term growth—and explains why cash flow is only a small piece of a much larger puzzle. You'll learn how taking a patient, strategic view can turn real estate into what he calls "a multidimensional wealth-building machine," especially in inflationary environments. This episode isn't just for aspiring investors; it's essential for high-income earners feeling stuck or overwhelmed by market noise. Jimmy shares concrete strategies to shift your mindset—from chasing elusive cash flow to focusing on assets that reliably appreciate, leverage government policies, and create generational wealth. If you're tired of analysis paralysis or wasting years waiting for the "perfect" deal, this is the wake-up call you need. Jimmy's insights challenge the conventional wisdom—and reveal how today's environment favors those who adapt their criteria, leverage their assets, and understand the unseen long-term benefits. Whether you're a seasoned investor or someone looking to get started, this episode will reshape your understanding of what it truly means to build wealth through real estate. Ready to stop worrying about the irrelevant metrics and start building assets that work for you for decades? Tune in, switch your perspective, and unlock the wealth-building potential hiding in plain sight. This is the episode that could change your entire approach to investing—and your financial future. About Jimmy Vreeland Jimmy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, spent 5 years as an Army Ranger, and deployed three times twice to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. On his last deployment, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki which led him down the path of real estate investing. As his own portfolio grew, eventually he started a real estate investing business.  Since 2018 his team at Vreeland Capital has supplied over 100 houses a year to high performing, passive investors who want to work with his team and his team is now managing over 800 houses. Get in touch with Jimmy and his team at www.jimmyvreeland.com/getstartedinrealestate More about Jimmy Website: www.jimmyvreeland.com Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-vreeland Instagram: www.instagram.com/jimmyvreeland Facebook: www.facebook.com/JimmyVreeland Youtube: www.youtube.com/@JimmyVreelandC >>>>>>Get free access to the private Ranger Real Estate facebook group

David Richter and Christina Gutierrez, co-hosts of the Profit First for Real Estate Investors podcast and business partners at Simple CFO, break down why the "cash is king" mantra fails so many real estate investors. Between them they've coached hundreds of investors and business owners who make good money yet still feel broke.This episode challenges conventional financial wisdom head-on: cash isn't king, and neither is cash flow. It's cash flow management that actually builds wealth, and this conversation is for any real estate investor or business owner who closes deals but never sees money left at the end of the month.Timeline Summary[1:19] – David and Christina open the episode and tee up their controversial take that goes against standard financial wisdom[1:45] – The core argument: cash is not king, cash flow is not king, cash flow management is what actually matters[2:05] – Why investors with rental cash flow can still feel broke and "good broke" on paper[2:53] – Christina reframes Profit First as a cash management tool, not accounting[3:12] – The real danger of "cash is king" is letting your cash control you by dipping in whenever you want[3:47] – David's realization: without a system, cash controls you no matter how much you have in the bank[5:15] – Comparing the Cashflow 101 game by Robert Kiyosaki to escaping the financial rat race[6:09] – Christina on teaching money lessons to their kids and the "Bank of Daddy" habit[7:36] – Parkinson's Law and the toothpaste effect: spending expands to fill available cash[9:15] – Why controlling your money is a learnable skill, not something you're born knowing[10:01] – The difference between cash management thinking and knowing where numbers sit on a statement[11:20] – Demystifying the CFO title and reframing it as a "chief financial partner"[13:36] – The hospital analogy: bookkeeper as nurse, CPA as surgeon, CFO as private doctor[14:30] – Why Simple CFO built tiered levels so fractional CFO help is attainable at any size[15:04] – Bad money habits at six figures only get magnified at seven figures[19:39] – Final case study: a client who paid down debt and got systems in place to stay out of trouble5 Key TakeawaysCash Flow Management Is King — Cash and cash flow only build wealth if you control them. Without a system, money slips out the back door no matter how much comes in the front.Money Magnifies Your Habits — Bad financial habits at $100K don't disappear at $1 million, they get ten times worse. More money never solves a management problem.A System Puts You In Control — Buckets and Profit First accounts let you assign every dollar a purpose in advance, so cash serves your goals instead of controlling your decisions.A CFO Is Your Financial Partner — Don't let the three-letter title intimidate you. A fractional CFO sits beside you to explain your numbers and guide where your money should go.Feeling Broke Isn't A Deal Problem — If you make money but never see it, the missing piece is cash flow management, not more deals. The fix is a system, not more hustle.Links & ResourcesSimple CFO — https://simplecfo.com Cashflow 101 board game by Robert Kiyosaki — https://www.richdad.comEnjoyed This Episode?If David and Christina's take on why "cash is king" keeps investors stuck hit home, you're not alone. Share this episode with a fellow investor who's closing deals but still wondering where all the money went, and if you're serious about keeping more of your profit, follow the show and leave a rating and review so more real estate investors can find it.

David Richter of Simple CFO breaks down one of the most practical questions real estate investors avoid: how to actually pay yourself first instead of paying everyone else and their mother. Drawing on the Profit First formula, he walks through the exact system for setting owner's pay when your income is unpredictable.This solo episode swaps the broken "sales minus expenses equals profit" model for the wealth formula and shows you how to build an owner's comp account that pays you consistently. If you're a real estate investor closing deals but feeling guilty about taking money out and wondering where all the cash went, this one is for you.Timeline Summary[0:26] – David opens with the hard truth that your business might be paying everyone except the person who built it[0:47] – Why the standard "sales minus expenses equals profit" formula keeps owners stuck in a rat race[1:40] – Waking up a decade into your business asking where all the money went[2:03] – The Profit First wealth formula flipped: sales minus profit equals expenses[2:23] – Why so many owners feel guilty taking money out of their own business[2:40] – Breaking down the three required components: sales, profit, and expenses in the right order[3:17] – The pay-yourself-first principle from Rich Dad Poor Dad and Robert Kiyosaki[3:36] – Lessons from The Richest Man in Babylon and The 7 Habits on putting first things first[3:57] – What margin actually means and why it's your financial safety buffer[4:32] – The simplest first step: open a separate owner's comp bank account today[5:02] – A real example of splitting $10,000 in income into consistent owner's pay[5:21] – Why the "black hole" single bank account keeps you from ever getting paid[6:15] – Building personal stability so the entrepreneurial roller coaster doesn't shake you[6:40] – Why an owner's comp account matters most when a spouse or family depends on you[7:05] – Finding your two key numbers: what you need and what you want[9:11] – Advice for W2 earners: build 6 to 12 months of reserves before making the jump5 Key TakeawaysFlip The Broken Formula — Stop using sales minus expenses equals profit. The wealth formula is sales minus profit equals expenses, so you pay yourself before you fund everything else.Open An Owner's Comp Account — Create a dedicated business checking account and route a set portion of every deal into it. This single move turns "pay yourself first" from a slogan into a habit.Know Your Need And Want Numbers — Pin down what you need monthly to cover your lifestyle, then what you want to fund your dreams. These two numbers give your owner's pay a target.Kill The Guilt Around Getting Paid — A dedicated account removes the guilt of pulling money out because it's earmarked for you. You built the business, and you deserve to be paid from it.Build Reserves Before You Leap — If you're still working a W2, stack 6 to 12 months of owner's comp reserves before quitting. Full-time investors should hold 3 to 6 months to weather the ups and downs.Links & Resources• Simple CFO — https://simplecfo.com Enjoyed This Episode?If David's owner's comp account idea got you rethinking how you pay yourself, don't keep it to yourself. Share this episode with a fellow investor who's paying everyone but themselves, and if it gave you a new perspective, follow the show and leave a rating and review so more real estate investors can build real financial clarity.

Welcome to another episode of The AZREIA Show! In this episode, Michael Del Prete explores one of the most influential wealth-building concepts in personal finance, Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant. Learn the differences between the four quadrants: Employee (E), Self-Employed (S), Business Owner (B), and Investor (I), and discover why understanding where you are today is the first step toward achieving financial freedom. Michael explains how successful real estate investors transition from earning active income to building systems and investments that generate long-term passive income. Throughout the episode, Michael shares practical strategies for developing the mindset, skills, and habits needed to move from the left side of the Cashflow Quadrant to the right side. He discusses the importance of creating scalable business systems, leveraging other people's time and expertise, finding mentors, and continuously investing in your education. You'll also learn how networking, workshops, books, and the Arizona Real Estate Investors Association (AZREIA) can accelerate your growth as an investor and entrepreneur. Whether you're just starting your real estate investing journey or looking to build a business that creates lasting wealth, this episode provides actionable insights to help you take the next step. Tune in to learn how to escape the rat race, build multiple streams of income, and create a financial future driven by assets instead of paychecks. 00:38 – Understanding Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant 01:42 – Breaking Down the Cashflow Quadrant 01:49 – Employee and Self-Employed Quadrants 03:14 – Business Owner and Investor Quadrants 07:18 – Transitioning from Employee to Investor 20:00 – Developing Business Systems and Mentorship 23:25 – Advanced Strategies for Business Owners 28:15 – Resources and Support from AZREIA -- Contact Alden of Silver Crest Opportunity Fund at http://silvercrestopportunityfund.com. "AZREIA does not endorse specific investments. Please do your own due diligence." Want to grow your real estate business?

Your need for approval might be the very thing standing between you and the income you know you're capable of. In this solo episode, Ray Higdon gets straight to it: most struggling entrepreneurs don't have a sales problem, they have an approval problem. They need acceptance from strangers, friends, family members, anyone, and that need is quietly killing their results. Ray shares how every major career pivot he made was met with doubt, and how he learned to use that doubt as fuel instead of a reason to stop. Ray also flips the script on imposter syndrome. It's not about posting content before you have success. It's about saying you want to change the world but refusing to get uncomfortable. He closes with three practical mindset shifts for sales: your prospects don't need you to be nice, they need you to be clear and certain. Backing off when you feel resistance isn't kindness, it's fear. And the people you didn't close? You didn't help them. If you know someone who's hanging on by a thread trying to make this work, this one's for them.

SUMMARY Robert Kiyosaki's Cashflow Quadrant maps out four types of people in the money game: employees, self-employed workers, business owners, and investors. It's a powerful framework, but Wade Borth argues it's missing one critical player: the banker. In this episode, Wade breaks down who actually controls the money game. No matter which quadrant someone occupies, they all need access to liquidity. The person providing that liquidity, whether it's Wells Fargo or a private individual with a pool of capital, holds the real power. Wade explains how anyone can begin building their own banking function, step into that role, and make their money work for them. KEY TAKEAWAYS The Cashflow Quadrant maps four roles (employee, self-employed, business owner, investor) but overlooks the most powerful player: the person providing liquidity. Every quadrant depends on access to capital. The person supplying that capital controls the money game. You don't need to be Wells Fargo to act as a banker. A private pool of capital, lent at a cost, creates genuine passive income. Real wealth isn't about earning more money. It's about making existing money work harder through the banking function. Breaking old money habits is the hardest part. Most people were conditioned by scarcity-era habits formed before they had any net worth to protect. LINKS AND RESOURCES Sage Wealth Strategy:   sagewealthstrategy.com KEYWORDS Cashflow Quadrant, Robert Kiyosaki, be your own banker, banking function, infinite banking concept, IBC, passive income, liquidity, financial freedom, family bank, whole life insurance, cash value, private lending, generational wealth, Sage Wealth Strategy, Wade Borth, pool of capital, financial control, business owner, investor EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS [00:06:08 - 00:07:34]   Wade reveals the overlooked player in the Cashflow Quadrant: the banker, the person who provides liquidity to all four roles. [00:08:21 - 00:09:23]   Wade explains how General Electric uses everyday investors as their banker by floating bonds on the open market. [00:11:13 - 00:12:27]   Wade breaks down how anyone can step into the banking function and create true passive income, regardless of which quadrant they occupy. [00:16:17 - 00:17:52]   Wade shares the story of a house flipper in his mid-30s who shifted one profit into a pool of capital and now earns 15% interest lending to other investors. [00:19:42 - 00:20:12]   Wade introduces the yellow Jeep syndrome: once you start thinking about who needs capital, those opportunities will appear everywhere.

About Jimmy VreelandJimmy graduated from the United States Military Academy at West Point, spent 5 years as an Army Ranger, and deployed three times twice to Iraq and once to Afghanistan. On his last deployment, he read Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki which led him down the path of real estate investing. As his own portfolio grew, eventually he started a real estate investing business. Since 2018 his team at Vreeland Capital has supplied over 100 houses a year to high performing, passive investors who want to work with his team and his team is now managing over 800 houses.Get in touch with Jimmy and his team at www.jimmyvreeland.com/getstartedinrealestateMore about JimmyWebsite: www.jimmyvreeland.comLinkedin: www.linkedin.com/in/jimmy-vreelandInstagram: www.instagram.com/jimmyvreelandFacebook: www.facebook.com/JimmyVreelandYoutube: www.youtube.com/@JimmyVreelandC>>>>>>Get free access to the private Ranger Real Estate facebook group

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On this solo episode of the Profit First for Real Estate Investors podcast, the host tackles a counterintuitive trap that catches growing real estate investors and entrepreneurs: scaling yourself right out of business. Drawing on Keith Cunningham's line from The Road Less Stupid that scaling cancer only grows the tumor, he lays out why pouring more marketing money into a business you don't fully understand is like putting fuel in a plane that's already going down.The episode is a practical walkthrough of how to scale profitably using the Profit First cash flow system. You'll learn how to set up and name your bank accounts, how to run your business by percentages instead of lump sums, and how target allocation percentages shift as you grow from startup to a quarter million and beyond. If you've ever felt like there's somehow less cash the bigger you get, this one gives you the roadmap to grow without going broke.Timeline Highlights[0:26] Why it's actually possible to scale yourself out of business, and how to spot if it's happening to you[0:46] The Road Less Stupid by Keith Cunningham and the "scale cancer, the tumor grows" principle[1:03] How Keith Cunningham connects to the Rich Dad character in Robert Kiyosaki's famous book[1:46] The spray and pray marketing mistake that keeps investors from ever paying themselves[2:24] The real game every entrepreneur is playing is the game of money, not their industry's game[3:07] What winning actually looks like: a business that serves you on the way up, not one that drains you[3:27] Step one to scaling profitably: set up a Profit First system so you know where every dollar goes[4:13] Splitting income by percentages across profit, owner's comp, owner's tax, and operating expense accounts[5:20] Target allocation percentages explained, and the goal percentages for a healthy business[5:41] The startup percentages from zero to $250K and why so much flows toward the owner early on[6:54] How the percentages shift from $250K to $500K to reinvest in opex without losing profit[7:50] Why "reinvesting every dollar" is code for scaling yourself out of business[8:39] Where to find the specific target percentages for buying, holding, and selling property[9:58] Scale with intentionality, and how to grab the book or cheat sheet to build your own roadmapKey TakeawaysYou can absolutely scale yourself out of business. Adding more fuel, usually marketing spend, to a business whose numbers aren't healthy doesn't fix the problem, it just makes you crash faster.Every entrepreneur is playing the game of money, not the game of their industry. Whether you're in real estate, run a salon, or own a brick and mortar shop, you have to know the money game to actually win it.Set up a system so you know where every dollar is going. Profit First works like the envelope method for businesses: separate, named bank accounts for profit, owner's comp, owner's tax, and operating expenses.Run your business by percentages, not lump sums. When income comes in, split it out of an income account into your other accounts by percentage so your money is intentional and spread out from the start.Target allocation percentages are your goal numbers for a healthy business. Early on, a bigger share flows to the owner because you carry less payroll and overhead, and those percentages are designed to keep you profitable at every stage.Scaling profitably just means your percentages change as you grow. Moving from zero to $250K to $500K, you shift some of owner's pay toward opex so you can reinvest in the business while still protecting profit, pay, and taxes.Protect your profitability or you become an accidental nonprofit. Reinvesting every last dollar without paying yourself or building a profit buffer is a recipe for crashing the plane.Links & ResourcesProfit First for Real Estate Investing by David Richter (book with target allocation percentages for buying, holding, and selling): https://profitrei.com Profit First cheat sheet and free book offer: https://simplecfo.com/gift ClosingIf this episode gave you clarity or a new way to think about growth, remember the core message: stop scaling in a way that hurts you and start scaling with intention, protecting your profit at every stage instead of pouring every dollar back into the fire. Be sure to like, subscribe, and comment, and if you're ready to apply this with real guidance and accountability, visit profitrei.com to schedule a free discovery call and build your path to financial clarity and freedom.

If your prospecting isn't producing results, chances are you're making at least one of these five critical mistakes. In this episode, Ray Higdon lays out the exact prospecting errors that silently drain sales from network marketers and direct sellers every single day, and gives you the practical fixes to start turning things around immediately. Ray walks through each mistake with the clarity and directness he's known for. Not talking to enough people is the foundation. If last week's outreach numbers were in the single digits, your income will reflect that. Not following up persistently means leaving money on the table. Ray shares the story of a prospect who said no seven times before eventually joining, building a six-figure income, and going full-time since 2011. Judging who to prospect before even asking them lets your assumptions steal your pipeline. Making the prospect the prize by chasing, begging, and coming across as desperate flips the power dynamic in the wrong direction. And the deepest mistake of all is focusing more on your solution than on the problem the prospect has actually stated. That approach comes across as pushy every time. The real game-changer Ray unpacks is the difference between persuasion and manipulation, and how asking the right questions to expand a prospect's problem is what moves people to action. He illustrates this with a real conversation that took a prospect from "it'd be nice to make more money" to "I have to do something about this" in just a few focused questions. If you want to close more sales, this episode will show you exactly where to start. —

Keith explores when the U.S. median home price could realistically hit $1 million and what long-term drivers like inflation, construction costs, and housing scarcity mean for investors.  He reveals the hidden issue of America's aging housing stock, explaining how outdated and inadequate homes quietly distort inventory data and reshape opportunities for renovation and build-to-rent strategies.  Keith also draws lessons from former Fed Chair Alan Greenspan and unpacks why some of the "worst" high-crime cities can still offer strong rental fundamentals, helping listeners think more clearly about risk, market selection, and long-term wealth building through real estate. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. When will the median US home value hit the $1 million mark? I have the best answer for the exact year that it will happen, and it's probably sooner than you think. Also, there's a big hidden problem in America's housing market today, and no one is talking about it. It's not prices, mortgage rates, affordability, nor is it inventory. I'll tell you about it and more today on Get Rich Education.   Speaker 1  0:30   Since 2014 the powerful Get Rich Education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord, show host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad Advisors, and delivers a new show every week. Since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top-selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps. Build wealth on the go with the Get Rich Education podcast. Sign up now for the Get Rich Education podcast, or visit getricheducation.com   Keith Weinhold  1:14   You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider, I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties. It's an executive coach for nine years now. Their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners, his name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to danielthomashind.com h i n d, that's danielthomashind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flockhomes.com/gre that's F L O C K homes . com / G R E.   Speaker 2  3:00   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  3:16   You're listening to One America's longest running and most listened to shows on real estate investing, not flipping, not speculating, not whatever the latest hot thing is, but prudent long-term real estate investing. This is Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. You've got to believe that you were not put on this earth to live a mediocre life and waddle in the safety of mediocrity. Your investing should be a reflection of that. You've got to believe that you can obtain financial freedom when you're young enough to enjoy it. What would be the point of deferring financial freedom until you're old, like, what would that point even be? I mean, just imagine a rich elderly version of you. It cannot buy youth. Youth cannot be bought. Look, right now, if someone offered you $20 million to be age 85 tomorrow, the probability that you would take it is pretty much zero. So then build sustainable, durable wealth now today, and with a sense of urgency. That's what we're doing here. A $1 million national median home price. When do we get there? Well, back in 1990 the median national home price was about 120k and you know, funny as it sounds, you can read about how back in 1990 people thought that homes were highly priced, even overpriced, and that maybe they'd need to start. Going down, why was that? Well, just three years earlier, in 1987 they crossed over 100k for the first time. So psychologically, six figures for a home price, that was still a fairly new phenomenon. In 1990 mortgage rates were 10% then for a 30 year fixed rate loan, and by the way, 10% mortgage rates didn't feel too bad to homeowners and real estate investors in 1990 because as recently as 1984 they were 14 and a half percent. Roll it back a little earlier to 1981 and mortgage rates were over 18% then, and of course, mortgage rates are a friendlier six to 7% today, but remember we're talking about home prices here, and when it comes to the trajectory of home prices, rates are really just trivia, because as I've discussed here on the show for years, to many people surprised, mortgage rates have almost nothing to do with home prices, contrary to popular belief, but to those people in 1990 that were still somewhat freshly getting used to six figure prices that were now 120k at that time today's median home price of 429,000 to $300 would have sounded as absurd as paying $18 for airport trail mix and $24 for airport beef jerky, yet here we are.    Keith Weinhold  6:36   All of those prices are true. That's where we are today, all right. Well, from 1990 till today, home prices have nearly four exed. So, with that backdrop from recent history, what about a million dollars? When do we get to that point? Well, home prices only need to go up about 2.3x from here. Yogi Berra said it's tough to make predictions, especially about the future, and I want to credit Dr. Lawrence Yuen, any our chief economist, for doing this analysis and sort of getting this conversation started, because when we look at the national median home price hitting million dollars, this forecast assumes zero price growth for this year, although home prices are now up 1.8% year over year. Here we go at 3% price growth from today, we get to a million in 2056 at 4% it's 2049 at 5% price growth, it's 2045 and it's 6% home price growth, it's 2042 and that's just 15 and a half years away. One part that I really want to credit Dr. Yoon for is that if you take the actual price trend from the last 25 years with all of its ups and downs, which also gives you an average annual gain of four and a half percent, by the way, and you project this into the future, that path reaches $1 million in 2048 just over two decades away, so taking the past quarter century, then, and extrapolating it into the future means we hit a million dollars in just a little over 20 years. So, therefore, perhaps the most prudent and sensible projection gets us there in 2048 But look, it's easy to make the case that growth is going to be on the higher side of these estimates, I mean, just look at what's going on now.   Keith Weinhold  8:45   Already, inflation is over 4% and there are all kinds of forces that are poised to push that inflation rate higher. I've talked about those in recent episodes. Today, 42 out of 50 states show annual home price gains. Near-term sparks to more home price growth are energy and material price volatility from tariffs and wars, which are poised to push up the replacement cost of homes. And you know, when your property's replacement cost rises, all capital values tend to rise as well. There's also pent-up demand and still paltry supply in most US regions. I'll get to that, but regulatory costs alone are now $132,000 for a new single-family home. You heard that right? Yes, the cost of zoning and other regs is now 132k and that figure is sticky. That does not tend to come down, and then you've got these longer term bonfires, not just the short term sparks that I mentioned, but the longer term bonfires that could make million dollar median home. Dollars occur before 2048 This construction of data centers and all the resources that it takes, and chips, and copper, and electricity, that's all inflationary for our society. When we're building that infrastructure, our currency will keep getting diluted to deal with huge debts like defense and social security payment commitments and interest payments themselves, I mean that part is plain as day new household formation that's expected to push up demand until at least the late 2040s and after that demographically things could turn, but the base case remains 2048 here for the million dollar median home, so this million dollar mark, you know, it's not some sci-fi housing fantasy where your realtor shows up in a flying car, okay, values are already approaching a half million, and this figure of a million that is just 1000 1000, it's not some incomprehensibly gigantic number that's shooting for the moon and the stars, so really the bottom line here is that a million dollar median national home price is an almost inevitable destination and is being pushed up by appreciation, inflation, replacement costs, and scarcity.    Keith Weinhold  11:25   The real question is not whether this happens, but it's when it happens. That's why I gave you the year of 2048 as the base case. I want to talk more about housing scarcity shortly, but first, for some historic perspective, do you want to know how much my parents paid for their home in 1974 I thought I knew the figure, but I wanted to check with Dad, and he let me know, and it was what I thought. All right, first, I think I've shared with you before that my parents still live in the same Countersport, Pennsylvania home, the old smallish Victorian style home built in 1917 They've lived in that continuously since Richard Nixon was our president. And you know, when I go visit my parents, I get to sleep in the same bedroom that I have since I was an infant, just amazing. Also, do you know that that home where I grew up, and they still live in.. Do you know that home is location? Do you know where that location is? On what I'll call the urban to rural spectrum, it's interesting. The home is not in a city, it's not in the suburbs, it's not in the exurbs, it's not in the country, and it's not in a planned community either. What's left? Do you know where it might be? Maybe you're thinking too hard. It is in a small town, that's the answer. A small town with a gridded street pattern and Main Street, that's called Main Street, and old brick businesses. It is a standalone community with its own identity and a really slow pace of life. Its population was about 2600 at the turn of the century, and it's down to about 2100 residents today. And Cowder Sport, Pennsylvania, is a remote place, it's over two hours to the nearest international airport in Buffalo, New York, and there really aren't that many flight routes out of Buffalo either. So, for that detached single-family home that does have a big yard, my parents bought it in 1974 for $20,000 exactly 20k and they quickly got that home paid off back in the day, about 58 years ago.   Keith Weinhold  13:48   The only financing they had, it wasn't a mortgage in the traditional sense, rather my mom's parents gave them a small loan to put toward that 20k and it was an interest-free loan, and the seller kind of gave them my parents there this adjacent grassy lot, practically free. The person that sold it said they didn't feel like mowing it. That wouldn't happen today. Real estate is just more coveted and calculated, I think. It'll just go throw in a lot, and you can guess who had to mow that adjacent grassy lot more than a few times? Yours truly. And hey, I might even mow it again this year when I visit my parents, and my dad listens to this show, and he sure hopes so. It's not a bad looking home today. I definitely did not grow up dirt poor, but just modestly, there was only one bathroom for our family of four that we all shared, and yes, what this meant was patience, timing, and the ancient art of knocking on the bathroom door with urgency sometimes, and we all took baths only until I was age eighteen, there was just simply no shower until then. We all shared one car, a Subaru station wagon, definitely not deprived in a great childhood, just living modestly. Well, today's median home price is now 22 times the 20k that my parents paid for their home in 1974. Homes in countersport are a lot cheaper, so maybe it's just 12x there. But see, the point is that the home doesn't have more utility because it doesn't have any more than the same three bedrooms today. It's got about the same amount of usefulness they did add a second bathroom. What happened is that our currency has just debased enough to be worth about 1/12 as much as it was in 1974 That's why the price is up 12x Before I get to national housing scarcity factor, maybe you've always wondered where I get my abundance mindset from, since I grew up in a small simple remote place, I'm not sure it's just an internal confidence gain from somewhere. Sometimes I wonder if where I grew up actually contributed to growing my means rather than living below my means, because at some point subconsciously I might have thought before that, you know what, if I fail big in life, then I could always move back to old counter sport and own a decent home for just 200k in a town where I know people, maybe it worked that way, and I moved away from that home for good at age 23.   Keith Weinhold  16:44   By the way, that's when I left the nest. As you know, I like to say the most important thing here is that I won the parent lottery - decent, stable married parents. That means considerably more than inflation or economic factors ever could two grade A parents now getting back to housing's scarcity factor. Did you know about what's happening with the available inventory of homes now after four years of rising supply? The inventory trend has flipped. There are now fewer homes for sale nationally than there were a year ago, and this has really thrown off some forecasters that thought inventory would climb about 10% this year. Instead, we have fewer one to four unit properties on the market today than we did last year. This matters because it could signal the next phase of the housing market, it's important to identify these inflection points right here, if it truly is one, because shrinking inventory, that means fewer options for buyers, more competition, and eventually upward price pressure, if the trend holds, but that's not here yet, we haven't seen home prices really take off. A decade ago, there are about one and a half million available homes. The pandemic low in 2022 is where we hit a jaw-droppingly low, 350,000 available homes. I mean, really scraping the bottom, those were the days when there were 40 people in line to see one open house, that was nuts.   Keith Weinhold  18:28   Okay, from those scarce, scarce days that has rebounded to 1.1 million available homes the past year or two, and this year it stepped back a little to about 1 million available homes for sale in this nation, so bigger picture today we have 30 to 35% fewer homes available now than we had a decade ago, and remember we've also got to account for the fact that we've had population growth since that time as well, that's why demand continues to exceed supply, so really the housing shortage is a little worse whenever you factor in population growth. So this really speaks to the scarcity, and so does something else here. And there's a big hidden problem in America's housing market today, and nobody, like no one is talking about this, it's not prices, it's not mortgage rates, affordability, nor is it inventory, it's the fact that America's housing is aging with the median now 45 years old, that's older than America's homes have ever been, and 45 is also about the median age of a TikTok user's parents, I think. Now, an 80s built home isn't exactly ancient, but this really factors in here. Now, in Buffalo, Pittsburgh, and Cleveland, the typical home predates 1960 in Austin and Raleigh, it. Is post 2000 so it feels like the Northeast is replacing avocado green appliances, and the Southeast is just replacing Ring camera batteries, because, as you'd expect, fast growth areas have a young housing stock like Florida and Texas and Tennessee to a lesser extent, and at the beginning of the month, I sent our newsletter subscribers this terrific national map that shows the median age of homes by city, a rare map that's pretty fascinating, and in fact, the oldest homes in the nation are in Elmira, New York. They are about 70 years old, not far from where my parents live in Countersport, Pennsylvania, and this is such an under-discussed part of the housing shortage. See, a market it can technically have what seems like available inventory, but still not actually have habitable, financeable, insurable, affordable housing, and older housing stock that creates friction with repairs and appraisals and insurance and affordability.    Keith Weinhold  21:10   Harvard's Joint Center for Housing studies found that 3.6 million renter households, that's 8% live in inadequate housing with problems in multiple structural deficiencies like water leaks or serious problems with electrical HVAC or other systems, and this is a real threat to NOAA housing. Are you familiar with this term, NOAH? NOAA stands for Naturally Occurring Affordable housing, and it means properties that are affordable purely due to free market conditions, not public funding. What's interesting is that America isn't just not building enough. See, we're also retaining a lot of older homes longer than generations past did in the mid 20th century, what cities routinely did is that they demolished obsolete housing, and they rebuilt aggressively. Today, that just doesn't work in most places. Replacement happens slowly, because of higher construction costs. In this not in my backyard bickering, and zoning restrictions, and labor shortages and environmental rules. I mean, it just doesn't work that way anymore. Now, here at GRE, we introduce you to providers across the nation that do deep, extensive quality rehabs, but much of America, they just kind of keep patching their homes like it's a 1998 Honda Accord with 280,000 miles in three glowing dashboard warning lights, that's what they're doing, that's why the average age of the home keeps going up. All right, so what are some of the big takeaways for real estate investors with America's homes being older than ever? Number one, it's supply. America still needs more housing, even in cities with stable populations. A lot of them are going to see more units become obsolete than will get built. That's why when you see a headline like inventory is up, all right, that can be true, but it can also be misleading if it's a 1952 duplex with knob and tube wiring, and a furnace that's held together with hope and duct tape. All right, a surprising amount of America's housing stock is basically running on CPR and Lowe's rewards points. The second takeaway with this aging housing stock is that obviously more renovations are required again, that is, if you're not buying new or turnkey, so therefore states like New York, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Massachusetts, they all have busy Home Depots.   Keith Weinhold  23:56   When obsolete properties get renovated, okay, well, then rents have to increase to support those costs, and then you know what happens a lot of times. Cynics call that process right there gentrification. Aging homes are going to be a major policy topic over the next decade. There is this tension between keeping buildings affordable and keeping them standing, you can't preserve what's falling apart, but see, then fixing it prices some people out, and then the third investor takeaway with this aging housing is yet again the arrow points here one more time, build to rent housing, yeah, new build rental homes, they're often the way to go. Usually the trade off for you is that you pay more upfront, and then you have fewer maintenance and repair costs. It usually works out for you, and today this is really tilted to your advantage, because home builders are still doing. Generously buying down your mortgage rate to perhaps 5% it depends on the builder, but this is a rare setup for you in this cycle of the market. New property, low maintenance, and mortgage rates that feel like they came from a different decade, you're getting them now. Not only is our housing aging, hey, so are we. The median age of all Americans is 39 Back in 1980 it was just 30, so this is a massive demographic shift in a short period of time. I mean, you and I are both older than we ever have been, of course, and we're both about 20 minutes older than when you and I started talking today. That is why I endeavored to make this show well worth your time. The bottom line with the aging homes is that by most measures, US housing stock is older than it's ever been. New construction has not kept up with population growth, and this is going to shape housing affordability and construction trends and investment opportunities across America, perhaps for the rest of your investor life. I need to tell you about America's worst cities for crime shortly, because it includes a lot of cities popular with investors, including cities that we frequently talk about here. So, what is going on? This is something that I've wanted to tell you about for a long time. Hey, if you like learning from me, you are in luck. This week and next week, it will be monolog episodes, just you and I together. I'm Keith Weinhold. More for you straight ahead here on episode 612 of Get Rich Education.    Keith Weinhold  26:41   What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group, NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone, because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal, and even chat directly with President Chaley Ridge. While it's on your mind, start at ridgelendinggroup.com That's ridgelendinggroup.com    Keith Weinhold  27:12   Let me ask you something. If you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call, or text family to 66866 that's Family 266866.   Speaker 3  28:14   This is Hal Elrod, author of The Miracle Morning, and listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold and don't quit your daydream.   Keith Weinhold  28:28   Welcome back to Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. America turns 250 years old this coming weekend. That's our semiquincentennial, which is a word that sort of sounds like it should come with a Latin tutor and a necktie. If you live in the US, like I do, happy birthday to us. Enjoy it, celebrate it, be grateful for it. We're living through a milestone that only comes around once every two and a half centuries. Remember that, despite our differences, we still get to live in one of the most remarkable nations ever built. Warren Buffett said, No one has ever been a success betting against America since 1776 and they're not going to be a success in the future doing it either. End quote. Before I discuss the worst investor cities for crime, Alan Greenspan died last week. Let's learn from history with this long-tenured Fed chair. He served for 19 years, from 1987 to 2006 And then I'll talk about what it means to you. And I actually met Greenspan in person, just briefly, at the New Orleans Investment Conference several years ago, he led the Federal Reserve under four presidents from both parties, and really he was regarded as somewhat of a celebrity economist. He shaped economic policy during this period of massive wealth creation, again 1987 to. 2006 almost two decades, Greenspan was held for his well-timed interest rate moves to fight inflation, all while promoting economic growth, but you know, a lot of prominent economists, they also blamed his big financial deregulation for causing the 2008 global financial crisis. Greenspan and Nomics were really about entering government during the Ford administration after he co-founded a successful economic forecasting firm, and then Greenspan really became known for basing his decisions on this sort of meticulous data analysis, not textbook economics, and he ultimately gained this guru status for really capable monetary policy, including during one of the longest economic booms in the country's history, between 1991 and 2001 all years in which he reigned, and he helped engineer a swift recovery from a massive financial crash during the late Reagan administration, and he did that by slashing interest rates, and then pouring tons of money into the economy, and you know, yeah, everyone is popular when they slash interest rates and print tons of money in the short term, because that makes everybody feel really prosperous, but I think you know what that leads to. Say it with me, inflation in the mid 90s. He presided over rate increases to stem that price growth without causing a recession, and that is a tough balancing act that's known as a soft landing. Jerome Powell basically did that too, despite his faults. But anyway, later Greenspan didn't pay attention to people that wanted him to keep jacking up rates, but he got it right to hold off from doing that.    Keith Weinhold  31:50   There was an economic upswing because Greenspan correctly predicted that we'd have all these productivity gains from personal computers that would help tame inflation. He got that part right, and Greenspan, he was like famous for using these hard to decipher pieces of jargon known as Fed speak. I mean, it was unforgettable in 1996 when he dropped the term irrational exuberant, so that really just means these unduly escalated asset values, and he also pioneered these interest rate change announcements as a way to help guide the markets, instead of surprising everybody. But, on the other hand, you know, anyone that shapes the economy is gonna get some criticism. A lot of people said that Greenspan would just always rescue the stock market, and investors sort of knew that he would come rescue it, and that made investors make these riskier and riskier bets. He was an acolyte of libertarian Ayn Rand, and so Greenspan lobbied for this sort of light touch financial regulation during the Clinton years, and that combined with his refusal to raise interest rates and rein in subprime mortgage lenders to stamp out the housing bubble in the 2000s that's really what caused people to say that he was partially responsible for the global financial crisis. His influence definitely remains today. Alan Greenspan lived from 1926 to 2026. Now we've all seen those lists, like America's worst cities or the highest crime metros in the US, floating around on social media, in articles like Newsweeks published for decades, and everywhere in between, right.   Keith Weinhold  33:42   It's like the 10 places where your wallet, your hubcaps, and your will to live disappear, something like that, in some form. When you consider real estate markets that you want to invest in, the quality of the area absolutely matters. A bad neighborhood. Oh, that's going to contribute to stagnant rents, flat or declining values, higher vacancy, and you'll probably attract a tenant who treats your property like it's a borrowed jet ski. All right, not where you want to be, but a faulty modus operandi is that a reader? They often see a list like this, and then they extrapolate an area's crime or their public safety issues and blankets them across an entire city. Now, one of these lists came across my desk recently, the 50 worst cities to live in in the United States, and the cities are ranked, and here's what struck me as wild, paradoxical. At least seven of the top eight cities have areas with strong investment fundamentals. Actually, so the eight worst, in order, are Detroit, Memphis, Jackson, Mississippi. St. Louis, Baltimore, Cleveland, Shreveport, Louisiana, and then eighth worst is Birmingham, Alabama. Most all of these have good investment pockets in them. Now, I've never visited Shreveport, so that's one that I can't speak to. All right. Well, what is going on here? Why am I calling them good investor cities if they all make this list, and by the way, I was born in the 34th worst on this list, Redding, Pennsylvania. One of my degrees is in geography, and I get out and see the world, and what's weird, and you'll see this over and over and over again in society throughout your life, and that is when people talk about their own city that they live in. Oh, they understand the nuance. Okay, you know your own city has posh areas and rough places and working class areas, and that city that you live in has improving neighborhoods, and it also has don't stop there for gas after midnight areas, but see, when there's another city that people aren't familiar with, or they haven't visited, well, then suddenly the entire area gets slapped with one label, like, oh, that's nice, or that place is a dump, or the world would be better if that entire city slid into the ocean. Well, that's lazy thinking. Almost every city has sections that they're proud of. And then, well, the garbage collector has to live somewhere. Take Memphis, for example.    Keith Weinhold  36:38   It has long been one of America's most real estate investor advantaged cities, and it is a favorable place for income property owners, because it's got landlord friendly laws, a deep base of blue collar distribution jobs, a high ratio of rent income to purchase price, and Memphis also has such an embedded renter culture that tenants appliances actually move around with them, but yet Memphis, like I said, is a dreadful number two on this worst cities list due to high crime. Okay, that's the problem with citywide statistics. Bad neighborhoods can skew stats for an entire city, in fact, since we just mentioned them here on the show last week, take a reputable Memphis-based income property provider like Mid South Homebuyers, they renovate and provide investors with property in neighborhoods like Fraser and White Haven, but wait a moment, you can easily read about crime and blight and disinvestment into these same exact two Memphis neighborhoods, Fraser and Whitehaven. That's real, and that is accurate. And simultaneously, Fraser is anchored economically by nearby world-class hospitals, a massive Amazon presence. You've got Nike's largest distribution center in the world. I mean, that's not exactly a tumbleweed economy. Drive down Fraser's Pamela Drive, and you're going to see an established leafy middle-class neighborhood, mostly built in the 60s, with these modest, well-kept properties, and you can see that if you pull up Pamela Drive, Memphis on Google Street View, and they're often three bed, one bath ranch homes, about 1000 square feet in size, with two tenths of an acre lots. I mean, everything I just described there is ideal for cash flowing rentals, driveways, lawns, normal life - it's not posh, but pride of ownership is apparent here. People mold their lawns, trash stays picked up, you see orderly cars, maybe a jogger or a baby stroller, or a neighbor watering flowers.   Keith Weinhold  38:58   You do not see dumped furniture, no cars on blocks, no front yards that look like a failed episode of storage wars. Community stalwarts live here, like our police officers, nurses, public school teachers. So, see, there's substantial variation in investability, even within Fraser in Whitehaven, it's almost a block by block phenomenon, even within one neighborhood. So, to mentally stigmatize every neighborhood in Greater Memphis as bad due to their high crime areas is a really gross aberration. So, when one isn't familiar with an area, there's often an inclination to broad brush stroke at all. I mean, gosh, I wonder if people in Kazakhstan think that you are an abject degenerate simply for sending your child to school because they read that America has lots of school shootings. See, it's. The same principle here, and just like any provider the GRE tells you about, Mid South Homebuyers wants you to visit their neighborhoods in person. In fact, they frequently arrange investor tours and even welcome your visit so much that you'll get a $500 credit on your first property for attending the tour, they will pay you to come see Memphis effectively, and the bigger picture, national crime rates of all kinds just keep plummeting, because everybody is on their phone. Frankly, a lot of places on worst cities lists, like Memphis, they can be dangerous to invest in without a free consultation from our GRE investment coaching or a resource like Mid South Home Buyers.    Keith Weinhold  40:51   So, the bottom line is that investors, they don't buy a city, you're going to buy one specific house on one specific street with one specific tenant profile in one specific property management system. Micro locations are what determine your ROI, and by the way, Mid South Home Buyers has good income properties, some of them for about 200k or under 200k and right now they're offering investors their triple five program. This means they buy down your mortgage rate to 5.5% or maybe a little lower, and have a property management fee of just 5% for the first five years on every new turnkey property purchase. That is currently one of the best deals in the nation for income property. You can learn more at Mid South homebuyers.com If that sounds interesting, hopefully you've learned about real estate today and have helped clear up some misconceptions. Million dollar median homes are not some far-fetched fantasy. 2048 is my best guess as to when we reach that point. Housing is more scarce than you think, especially when you consider that America's homes are older than they've ever been, and when we look at one city's crime or demographic statistics, that broad brush strokes quite a wide area. Hey, if you enjoyed today's episode, there's a way to get more out of it for you and others, that is by telling two friends about the show, I love it when you do that, and I'm grateful for it. Text them this episode right now. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  42:37   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Speaker 1  43:05   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, getricheducation.com  

The default wealth-building playbook goes like this: buy something low, hope it's worth more someday, then sell to capture the gain. That's the appreciation model, and it can work. But it's not the only path, and for a lot of business owners and high-income professionals, it's not the most reliable one either. The Money Advantage is built around a different philosophy. Cash flow today is a stepping stone to cash flow tomorrow. Income you receive now compounds, funds the next asset, and stacks on top of what you're already earning, whether or not the underlying value ever moves. https://youtu.be/_ktX62qtXCE This article covers which assets actually produce reliable income, the honest tradeoffs of each, and the sequence in which to build them. That last part is where people most often go wrong. Table of ContentsKey TakeawaysCash Flow vs. Capital Gains: Two Very Different Ways to Build WealthThe Net Investable Income LoopWhat Makes an Asset Worth Owning for Cash FlowKnow Yourself Before You Know the AssetThe Best Cash-Flowing Assets and the Tradeoffs of EachRental Real EstateBusiness OwnershipPrivate Lending and NotesDividend-Paying Stocks and Traded REITsNon-Traded REITsWhy the Order You Build In Is More Important Than the Assets ThemselvesStage 1: FoundationStage 2: ProtectionStage 3: IncreaseThe Hidden Cost of Funding Your InvestmentsWe're Taught Capital Gains. It's Time to Learn Cash Flow.Frequently Asked QuestionsWhat is the difference between cash flow and capital gains?What are the best cash-flowing assets to start with?Is rental real estate really passive income?What does it mean to own a business versus operate one?What is the difference between traded and non-traded REITs?In what order should I build a cash-flowing portfolio?Do I have to be an accredited investor to invest for cash flow?How does Infinite Banking help fund cash-flowing assets? Key Takeaways Cash flow and capital gains are fundamentally different strategies, with different rules and different timelines The best cash-flowing assets offer predictable income, some ability to liquidate, and ideally some underlying growth There are no perfect assets, only tradeoffs Rental real estate, business ownership, private lending, dividend stocks, and REITs each have a place in an income-producing portfolio The order you build in is as important as the assets themselves Cash Flow vs. Capital Gains: Two Very Different Ways to Build Wealth Capital gain: you buy an asset at a cost basis, it appreciates in value, and you sell it. The difference between what you paid and what you sold it for is your gain. To access that money, you have to time the market and sell part or all of the asset. Cash flow: the asset pays you income on a regular schedule, regardless of what the underlying value does. You never have to sell to get the return. That's the core distinction. One requires a sale. The other just keeps paying. Bruce puts it simply: put $100,000 into something generating 12% a year, and you receive $12,000 while keeping the original $100,000. Net worth is now $112,000, and it repeats. With a capital gain, realizing that same $12,000 means selling a portion of the asset and redeploying it somewhere else. The Net Investable Income Loop Rachel frames cash flow in terms of what it does to your total income picture. When an asset produces income, it stacks on top of your earned income. A greater share of your total income can then flow into savings, which buys more assets. That process repeats, capital building incrementally, month after month. A salary arrives monthly, a cash-flowing portfolio can too. You're not waiting for a sale to realize value; you're receiving it continuously, and your liquidity is building the whole time. And the usual end goal of an appreciating asset is eventually to convert it into cash flow, to liquidate it someday and live off the proceeds. Starting the cash flow earlier just gives you the predictability sooner. What Makes an Asset Worth Owning for Cash Flow Three qualities define an ideal cash-flowing asset: Steady, predictable income The ability to liquidate if necessary Underlying growth, so if you do sell, you sell at a gain You rarely get all three at once. As Bruce puts it, drawing on economist Thomas Sowell, there are no solutions, only tradeoffs. Wanting instant liquidity means accepting weaker cash flow, because liquid money can't be committed to a long-term position. This is why we talk about liquidity diversification alongside asset diversification and tax diversification. Some capital should be reachable quickly. Some is committed long-term. Spreading across both means a business (which has very little liquidity) isn't your only holding. Know Yourself Before You Know the Asset Investor DNA, or unique ability investing, is the other half of the equation. Before evaluating any asset, the right questions are: does this match your value system? Does the knowledge required match your expertise, or are you willing to build it? Investing deliberately inside your sphere of knowledge gives you more control, a better read on the risks, and a cleaner exit strategy if you ever need one. "Where do you put your money?" is a question that only makes sense in the context of your goals, your timeline, and your risk tolerance. What works for one person doesn't automatically work for another. The Best Cash-Flowing Assets and the Tradeoffs of Each Rental Real Estate Real estate has more entry points than people often expect: single-family rentals, duplexes, multifamily, commercial space, self-storage, mobile home parks, short-term rentals, and syndications. Each has its own risk profile, capital requirement, and management burden. The goal in any of these is to be cash-flow positive: rent covers the mortgage, and insurance, and taxes, and every operating cost, with a surplus left over. That surplus is your monthly income. Add the tax depreciation side, and rental real estate stacks up as one of the more tax-efficient income-producing assets. The honest tradeoff: there's no truly passive income in rental real estate. Tenants, toilets, and termites are real. Even with a property manager, you're managing a person, and that takes time and attention. Bruce has owned close to a dozen properties and eventually moved away from direct ownership for exactly this reason. DIY versus turnkey is a cost-and-return decision. Doing everything yourself preserves margin. Paying for management reduces your burden but eats into cash flow. Neither is wrong; it depends on how much of your time the asset is worth. Real estate pairs well with Infinite Banking. A policy loan funds the down payment. Rental income repays the loan. The cash value in the policy keeps compounding uninterrupted the entire time, so you're building in two places at once. Business Ownership Operating a business is not the same as owning one. A cash-flowing business pays income without requiring all your time. If every dollar you earn is directly tied to the hour you spent working, that's self-employment, not an asset. The distinction is real, because only one of those is something you can eventually step back from. To move from self-employed to business owner, you need systems, processes, and team. Robert Kiyosaki's cash-flow quadrant makes the point clearly: the right side of the quadrant only works when the business can run without you as the bottleneck. What makes a business valuable is that it's hard. Businesses solve problems people don't want to solve for themselves. Jeff Bezos built Amazon around one insight: people don't want to leave the house for every item they need. The service was obvious in hindsight, painful to build, and enormously valuable precisely because it was. That's the pattern. Treat the business as a business, not a hobby. That means watching expenses, marketing, sustainability, succession planning, taxes, and accounting. Revenue without profitability isn't cash flow. Infinite Banking connects here in several ways: storing liquidity reserves and buffer capital, funding key-man insurance, deferred compensation,, and quarterly tax payments. The policy becomes the business's financial backbone. Private Lending and Notes Private lending means providing capital to a borrower, secured against collateral, at a stated interest rate, paid back as monthly income. Often structured as interest-only, which maximizes the cash flow to the lender. The principal is secured by the underlying asset. Terms vary: a fixed payoff date, a refinance trigger, or a short-term arrangement like a fix-and-flip hard money loan. A short-term flip might carry a 12% annualized rate, but since the loan only runs for four to six months, the actual dollar return is less than the rate suggests. IBC practitioners often use policy cash value for private lending. The borrower's repayments come back, pays down the policy loan, and then the cycle repeats, predictable monthly income from a controlled capital reservoir. The tradeoff: this is the debt side of real estate. Some investors prefer equity, owning a piece of something rather than lending against it. Both are valid; the preference depends on your risk tolerance and how you want to be positioned. Dividend-Paying Stocks and Traded REITs Dividend-paying stocks, like Coca-Cola and UPS, are common examples that pay a stated yield per share, typically quarterly, semi-annually, or annually. You can take the income as cash or reinvest it through a dividend reinvestment program (DRIP), which automatically buys additional fractional shares. Traded real estate investment trusts (REITs) work similarly: a trust holds a portfolio of real estate, rents are collected, and the yield is distributed to shareholders. The tradeoff is real: both carry market correlation....

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Keith Weinhold explores why your greatest investment might actually be in yourself.  He's joined by Daniel Thomas Hind, an elite executive coach and former COO who works privately with seven- and eight-figure entrepreneurs and real estate investors to rebuild their health, sharpen their thinking, and strengthen their leadership.  He shares success stories, including Terry Kerr's transformation, and encourages listeners to apply for his private coaching to achieve uncommon results. Together they unpack how high achievers slip into burnout, sacrifice their well-being and relationships, and unintentionally create company cultures shaped by their own unresolved habits. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. On this investing show, it's been a long time since we've discussed investing in yourself. We do that today with an amazing guest on Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  0:15   Since 2014 the powerful Get Rich Education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being the flipper or landlord. Show host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad Advisors and delivers a new show every week. Since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads in 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps. Build wealth on the go with the Get Rich Education podcast. Sign up now for the Get Rich Education Podcast, or visit getricheducation.com    Keith Weinhold  1:04   You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider. I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach. For nine years now, their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally. You can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your six plex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flcokhomes.com/gre that's F L O C K homes.com/G R E.   Speaker 1  2:50   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  3:06   Welcome to GRE from Rome, New York to Rome, Oregon, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinholder. You're listening to Get Rich Education. Your hardest opponent out there is rarely the market, the economy, your boss, or even your schedule, your opponent is the part of you that knows what to do and still hesitates to do it. You are your own biggest obstacle, and deep down you know it. I know this about myself too. We all keep sort of choosing familiar frustration over unfamiliar progress, a personal stay in the same bad routine, same underperforming relationship, same cluttered inbox, same poor money habit, or same low energy pattern, not because you love it, but because it's predictable and it's safe. Growth, though, requires a new identity. Staying stuck only requires repetition, and we all know how to do that already. You delay asking for the sale, or you delay asking the attractive woman out, and you justify that by telling yourself, oh, you're still refining the strategy, but deep down you know that the real issue is discomfort. We're talking about the skills that build yourself today, perhaps somewhat like we did in two episodes with Chris Voss. When you learned how to be a good negotiator, one thing I've learned from today's guest is about culture. Culture is governed by what you tolerate at your company. Do you have a policy? Where you've got to reply to an email within 24 hours. Well, if you start tolerating 48 hour replies, you've tolerated less, and that becomes the new culture. And it also shows that you're going to let other policies slide too. If you let this one slide, do you expect your property manager to physically inspect your unit every six to 12 months, that's something I kind of like. Well, then don't tolerate anything less than that. And parenting is all about tolerance. I'm going to ask our guest about that. I'm also going to ask, how would you even know when you're burnt out at work? What are the hard signs to look for. How would you even know? Another thing that I want to ask about is how he discusses that you are the way that you are because of the shape that you took when you were under pressure. But I want to start by talking about health, and then transitioning. Today's guest talks in a way where you know, at least once today, I'm pretty sure you're going to say to yourself, gosh, it sounds like he's talking about me. It's been the most interesting thing.    Keith Weinhold  6:16   Earlier this year, I learned that a lot of top business owners, including some that you've heard here on the show, have had their life transformed, including pretty explosive growth in their business from working with an executive coach. And then I learned from them all, oh, it's the same guy, it's the same coach. I discovered that he's helping a lot of hard-charging business owners and investors basically get in the best shape of their life, physically, mentally, professionally. He's been especially good with types that burn out. He's also the founder of something called The Apprenticeship, where he helps corporate professionals become pro coaches. In a former life, he was a COO who helped grow a fast-scaling company tenfold, and today he's a marathon runner. He's also a literary novelist working on his second book, and since I met him in person in California recently, I've learned from him too. So I'm pleased to announce that we have this sort of secret weapon behind so many people on the show today. Welcome to GRE, Daniel Thomas Hind,   David Thomas Hind  7:22   Keith. Thank you. That's one heck of an introduction. Hi, I'm gonna have to save that and bring it with me. That's very kind of you to say, and it's a pleasure to be here.   Keith Weinhold  7:31   Oh, you're like, gosh, I can't possibly live up to that now. For those in the audio, only Hind is spelled H I N D, you know, Daniel, I'm happy to have you, because I know, and I've learned that you just really don't market yourself much, frankly, because you don't have to. You just sort of get these organic referrals from people that you already coach, but you do have a website, and it's just uncanny how, when I visited your site, people are doing video testimonials, and I'm like, oh, I know that person, and I know that person, but these people hadn't told me about you for so long, and Daniel, I think when it comes to making the best version of ourselves, or at least moving that way, we talk about wealth building on this show an awful lot, but that has quite an intersection with health.   David Thomas Hind  8:19   Yeah, it does, so my philosophy is first and foremost that health is wealth, right? It's a cliche, but so often hard-charging executive types, whether those are business owners or members of a leadership team, founders, or investors, so often these types of folks, because they're so passionate, they're so driven by the thing that they're working on, that they're building, that they'll often let other things in their life go, and sometimes it's just a season, but often, more often than not, at least with the people that I work with, and see that season turns into many seasons, turns into years, turns into a pattern, right? And it becomes this pattern, this ingrained way of being that, unless gone unchecked, can really cause problems in the long run, and so a lot of people don't exactly know what executive coaching is, and it can mean many different things for many different people. For me, it really is the intersection of your physical well-being, which, of course, includes your diet, your fitness, your nervous system, the health of your nervous system, your sleep quality, it has to do with the way that you organize and structure your days, right? So many of us just enter into a default way of doing life, and we don't. Creatures of habit,   Keith Weinhold  9:55   Yeah   David Thomas Hind  9:56   We're creatures of habit, and for successful people, those habits have helped us succeed and get to where we are, but because of that, we often don't stop and think, well, is this actually serving me anymore, or has some of these habits that used to be healthy and good for me, have they kind of metastasized into something not so healthy, maybe even dangerous or destructive, and then for these sort of people who I'm working with, right, many of them are at the top of organizations, and so these habits, these ingrained ways of being, might seep out and filter out into the company culture, into how we interact with people below us, right, and so my work is an intersection of personal health, personal development, business health, business development company culture, and so we're looking at the leader, the founder, how he shows up for himself in life, how he shows up for others, and how that defines the world around him, that he is usually, or she doesn't have to be, he, he, or she is usually at the center of, right, and so it's quite profound, because I get to be as intimately involved with people I really respect, people who have accomplished so much and who hold themselves to such high standards, and still want more, still know that there's better, still know that there's so much of themselves that they can improve upon, right? So I get a really meaty, holistic, complete inside look of these people's lives and their businesses, and so I get to work in like many businesses at once with incredible people. I'm very blessed and very lucky.   Keith Weinhold  11:37   Well, when it comes to one not having their health, I know a lot of times you told me about how you have a quote successful person, but they're successful in business, not their health. I think a lot of it comes down to one's mental conditioning, even from when they were substantially younger, shaping our worldview. I think a lot of people are programmed with this, I'm supposed to be X, I'm supposed to get this degree within 10 years. I'm supposed to be executive level with a corner office, and I'm supposed to have an eight figure net worth by that age. You know, not that all of these are bad things individually. In fact, it could be a reflection that you're contributing to society, but you know, it's sort of, are you overweighted toward professional accomplishments? Is this program supposed to stuff that you got from somewhere, the stuff that's making you unbalanced and ultimately unfulfilled. So, really, it's the success in one area comes at the expense of what? That's how I think about it. And I know you have a number of stories of helping people with just this,   David Thomas Hind  12:40   I do. And so, let me first comment on the pattern that you're describing, and then I'll, yeah, that I think the best way to really talk about is to show what that looks like in an actual example, so it's it's this shape you took under pressure concept is is a concept that I talk about with all of my clients, so every successful entrepreneur that I know has developed a specific psychological structure that they've adopted to help them survive in the early years, right, when it was just them, or maybe them and their partner, and they were going for it, they were relentless, they were acting with an insane sense of urgency, an inability to sit still. Everything felt at risk, and they really had to sacrifice basically everything else to make this thing happen. It's not the case of everybody, but most people that I know who have accomplished a lot, that they share a similar origin story, and it was like go all in for five years, forget everything else, kind of thing.    Keith Weinhold  13:39   Exactly.   David Thomas Hind  13:40   It looks like some version of that, and so for the ones who succeed and make it through that phase, that's incredible, but you know the cliche is what got you here won't get you there. It's like when by operating that way you have adopted specific ways of being, psychological patterns, ways of relating to other people, beliefs about yourself, and beliefs about, like, how unreliable other people can be, and it can really turn into a dangerous operating system when you have to start building a team and training that team and relying on that team, and then creating a shared team culture, right, a company culture, it's not just like silly exercises that you put like on the wall, like these are our values, doing like trust falls backwards, like a culture is the behaviors that you take on, and like the uniform that you put on that everybody on the team has bought into, right, and so unfortunately, most cultures are shaped by the leadership team's worst qualities, because those qualities are the things that, like, we don't hold together, right? Like, if it's this person who lashes out because somebody doesn't get it, a media. The perfect example of somebody who really has embodied all parts of the coaching, from health to your inner psychology and mindset, and how that impacts your business health and your team and the corporate culture, is my client Terry Kerr. He is the founder of Mid South Home Buyers, and I know that Terry's been a guest on this show a number of times. What an incredible person. I've had the pleasure of working with Terry for close to 10 years now, and I've been working with his COO for close to eight years as well. So, I've gotten a real inside look at that team, and Terry, when he came to me, had let go of parts of himself that he had always held sacred, which was his health and his wellness. Long story short, we started working together. I helped him redesign the way that his life was constructed, pretty much no surprise, everything about his day was oriented towards business, from the second that he woke up to the second that he went to bed. So we really re-architected, we put a lot of intentionality into re-architecting the flow of his day, so that he can make sure that he's prioritizing other parts of himself and his family, his personal health, etc.    David Thomas Hind  13:40   Over time, he lost, I think, that first year he lost something like 60 pounds. He took on meditation as a practice. He started exercising daily, and Terry was a skateboarder growing up, so he was always, yeah, he was big into fitness and in his own ways, and just had let it go for the sake of the company, because for years it was just him building this thing, and most people would say, "Wow, I've done it, like I'm successful, I overcame these things that were weighing me down, and we're done here, but Terry was so opened up by the experience that he wanted to keep going, and he didn't even know what that meant, but over time he's invited me into the way that he operates. Period. As a leader, making decisions for his business, how does he interact with his employees, with his leadership team, so I've effectively become like the inside man, basically become like an AI, but a person who you can run decision making through, right? So, as to check those parts, those impulses, those impulsive parts of ourselves that just like want to do something, I've become like a check for him, so we're communicating on a daily basis. What are the most important things that we need to accomplish today? Are we making sure that you're spending time with your family? Are we making sure that you're getting your exercise in? Is your assistant organizing your food and dinners and everything else for you? Where are you going out to restaurants?   David Thomas Hind  17:59   Right, it's that level of intentionality of being part of almost every decision that over time, like at first we have to put a lot of attention into, because we're building new habits and we're breaking old ones, but over time these become ingrained and then we can start to take on new projects, new habits and routines and ways of being that we want to basically program, and so over these past 10 years, the company has absolutely exploded, and I'm not going to say that it's because of me, but I am going to say it's because Terry has taken on personal growth and growth in general as a vocation, and not allowing his own stops and blocks get in the way of the company going where it needs to go, and so over that time they've really changed the leadership structure. They've let a lot of people who weren't cultural fits go. They have assembled an entire leadership team now below the owners who have a lot more responsibility, whereas everything used to just go right up to the owners, and, and they were pretty much deciding on everything. So we really created a structure, a culture. We've let people go who no longer fit. We brought new people in who do, and you know, I will say that it's a direct result of that level of intentionality and specificity that Terry brings to his day every day, and Terry has given me his blessing to talk about him, or else I would never reveal so much of a person's inner life and inner work like that. But it's just his story is such an inspiring one for me, and that is so cool to get to share with others.   Keith Weinhold  19:38   I'm glad that you checked with Terry, because as you're talking about this I'm thinking I better talk to Terry after this and ask him if this is okay, but it's been said that culture, including company culture, is not what you say or what you do, it's what you tolerate.   David Thomas Hind  19:54   Yeah, well, that's what we said before, is that most found. Treat culture as like an HR exercise, right. Meanwhile, the actual culture of the company is it's shaped by the leader's worst qualities, and so a lot of investors listening to this show probably have teams, whether it's property managers or assistants, contractors, partners, and your team's culture is a mirror of the parts of yourself that you haven't dealt with yet, right. And so it's really your responsibility to fix that. That is the job of the leader. You are at the top, everybody's looking at you. It's not a job for everybody. Most people would prefer not to have that level of attention, and even if you think that you want that level of attention, your true self, the part that wants to just like leave me alone and let me do my work, that part of you, to call it the child, call it the baser self, whatever you want to call it, doesn't want that attention, because it requires constant reinvention, constant opening yourself up to take this on, so yeah, your team's culture is a mirror of the parts of yourself that you haven't dealt with yet. If you fix the leader, you're going to fix the culture, and Mid South Home Buyers is a perfect example of that.   Keith Weinhold  21:18   Yes, this concept about the shape that you take under pressure,   David Thomas Hind  21:23   you don't know how to give yourself relief. So, here's another case in point. Like, this seems like such a simple fix, but you'd be surprised, because this is representative of a number of people that I work with. Like, Terry hadn't given himself an actual vacation in decades, so   Keith Weinhold  21:41   gosh,   David Thomas Hind  21:42   just taking a week or taking two weeks to go to Europe, which he and his wife do every year now.   Keith Weinhold  21:49   Yeah, I know they went to France not long ago.   David Thomas Hind  21:51   Yeah, that's representative of a maturation of the person who can trust that the team can take care of things, who can trust that the business isn't going to fall apart because he's not there at the center of it. You know, we form addictions with just being involved, having to read every email, making sure that we're involved in every conversation. Again, that's a sort of ingrained habit that you learn from the beginning, because it was just you. You did have to be involved in every conversation, if you weren't there, would be no thing to exist. There would be no business, right? But some people might not have a problem with this. I don't know those people. Most people I do know have a real problem with letting go, with changing, with maturing with the company as it demands, so that you're not just bleeding yourself dry day in and day out, right. So, physical burnout, cognitive decline, relationship decline, or let's call it numbing, leadership erosion, right? If you don't check these parts of yourself, all this stuff that you've worked so hard to build, this incredible life that you have assembled, and your accomplishments, they start to whittle away, so that level of identity crisis is on the table if you don't check these parts of yourself, and so I don't want to sound like doom and gloom, but I am describing the costs of success. These are actually typical for people who get to the very top, and the thing is that there aren't a lot of people at the very top, so you don't really want to talk about it. It sounds ungrateful, or term I like to call champagne problems, right? Like, oh, look at the multimillionaire be upset because he has to work so much, right? It's like nobody really is going to have sympathy for that, so you're not going to parade that around, but you know these people are people too, and everybody needs outlets, and everybody needs to express themselves, and everybody can change the way that life is, so again, that's where I come in.   Keith Weinhold  23:49   Yes, at some point a leader has got to back off and tell themselves if it gets done 95% of the way that I would have gotten it done, but it doesn't take any of my time, that could very well be a win, and then they're probably not going to be deemed as wearing the micromanagement hat all the time either. 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I learned about an executive coach that's behind the success for a number of guests that we've had here on the show. It's just been uncanny at how he's transformed others' lives. And since meeting him in person earlier this year, I've now learned from him too. And you know, Daniel, one of the things I learned about that I didn't know before is some people can get burnt out so bad that not only is it messing with their physical health and it's derailing their relationships, but burnout can actually create cognitive decline and more problems. So, first of all, How can one identify when they've reached the burnout point? How will they know? Yeah,   David Thomas Hind  27:00   that's a great question. Obviously, it doesn't come in a one size fits all, but it usually follows this sort of pattern, right? Let's say you've got the portfolio, you've got the cash flow, you've got things are working on paper, you should be happy, right? On paper, you are living some version of the dream that you told yourself 510 15 years ago. However, it doesn't feel that way. You feel worse than you did ever before, or at least within the past recent memory.   Keith Weinhold  27:35   Yeah, that's amazing.   David Thomas Hind  27:36   So that's the place to start looking. Look, everybody has seasons of just, you gotta go through it, something happens, you need to work really hard, you need to bust it, and that's fine. I'm not talking about direct tiredness or exhaustion. What I'm talking about is more of like an existential.. what's like, why is this not feeling the way I hoped it would? Right, I sacrificed everything for this, for xyz, whatever xyz is, and I have xyz, but it feels so empty, or I just, I can't appreciate it, or I'm always on to the next thing. Yeah, and all of this I'm going to call is some version of burnout, because what that means is that you're not able to actually appreciate your life that you've worked so hard for, and so for some it's like this never-ending fascination with the next, the future constant needing to build, and there's nothing wrong with that, but it comes from almost more of like an addictive place, like you're addicted to making things happen, you can never slow down, and underneath it all, there's actually no real joy or satisfaction. It's pure adrenaline, it's pure cortisol, and we like the cortisol bump when it's like, you know, we're feeling it, we're just going for it, we're getting it, but there is going to be a day where that flips upside down, and the exhaustion is almost impossible, because you don't know how to achieve satisfaction other than through sheer output. It's like a marathon runner who can never stop running, like literally never, right? You're just, you're running 20 hours a day, you can't get the high, unless you're crushing yourself, and so that's one form of burnout. Another form of burnout is just I don't have the juice anymore. It's actually experiencing the other side of your nervous system shutting down. It's your body can't produce the raw materials to have you primed and ready to go anymore, so whether that's a hormonal issue, whether that's a cortisol issue, whether you have heart problems, the body keeps the score. So a lot of people that I work with, we're going to have to do a lot of health optimization, working on their diet, their sleep patterns. Patterns, exercise, getting their hormones dialed in, micronutrients, maybe peptides. There's a lot of things that we need to do to rehabilitate the system, because they're just wrecked. When your nervous system is that mainlined for years, it wrecks you in a way that leaves you just totally empty, and it's not like, oh, you know, going on a vacation and getting extra sleep is going to fix this. No, this is like, you need months and months of targeted repair. It doesn't mean that you're completely useless, you can't be working, but what I am saying is you're going to need to reprioritize. Priority means number one, right? So, what are your priorities? As we've been discussing today, it's clear that the sort of person that I work with, and if this is at all resonating with you, the listener, the sort of person that you are, is somebody who is so focused on your mission, you do feel the sense of mission, you are so goal-oriented, and that's the best part of life, is you wake up every day and you know what you want and you're going for it, and I would never want to change that about anybody who has that, because I think we're all looking for that at the end of the day. That is the sweet spot of life. When you have found that thing and you're going for it, my job is never to make that wrong. My job is to actually support the human being who is operating on that level to make sure that they can stay on that level, right, so without doing that, the problem is that you actually lose the thing that you love the most, you lose the joy, you lose the energy for it. I mean, I've worked with people who are on the cusp of selling their business simply because the weight of having to wake up every day and go in and work with others and like, lead the ship.   David Thomas Hind  31:42   It just felt so overbearing, because no surprise, this person had gone 20 years without actually taking care of themselves. They were 60 pounds overweight, they were not sleeping, they were getting maybe five hours of sleep a night. You know, the culture has changed online over the past few years, which is a good thing, but a lot of people used to wear, you know, I don't sleep at all as like a badge of honor, right? Again, this person's marriage was on the ropes. They weren't spending time with their children. They'd become a shell of a person who were just who was miming their normal life. They was just, they were kind of pantomiming normal life. They were going through it, but they weren't really there. And the weights, think about it like this. When you're tired, when you get a bad night of sleep, like a really bad night of sleep, or maybe, God forbid, two nights of bad sleep in a row, every little thing that next day is grating, right? Yeah, the person who cuts you off, it just.. it's that much more annoying, right? That meeting that was supposed to happen, the person has to cancel, and it's like, oh my god, I just.. my whole day was centered around this. How, how selfish of them, right? Everything becomes that much more grating. So, imagine that times 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, right? The weight of everything feels so impossible that they can't hold it together anymore, and so I know a lot of people who have fantasized about selling their business, the thing that they, you know, which is like so paradoxical, because it's not, it's not that they need to sell it, it's not that that was actually even a goal, it's just that they can't imagine themselves having to do this any longer, and they, for whatever reason, they have blinded themselves from seeing that there's another way, it doesn't have to be this way, but it does take work, and that's a problem, because upstream of this, you ask me, what is a sign of burnout? A sign of burnout is saying, oh my god, I can't do anything about this, it's as hopeless, right? This is like a hopeless feeling, so it's not hopeless, and especially for somebody like that, for the sort of person that we're talking about, you're actually more resourced than most people on the planet to take this on,   Keith Weinhold  33:46   like they say, when you have health, you can want everything, when you don't have health, you only want one thing, and yeah, how people can be prevented from getting into that condition by avoiding burnout, some people have such an identity crisis that you know they don't know who they are outside the business, and they would kind of be terrified to find out, maybe that's another sign that you're burned out and you need some help, but you know finding life balances is sort of a tricky word, there are sort of supporters and detractors of the whole life balance school of thought too, but you know, Daniel, one thing I found interesting is, I asked you, how you ever got into coaching, and how you do this, and, like, you know, how you have the aptitude to even help a person go become a coach, and I know you told me that it sort of happened organically, you started helping out friends, and then it really grew into something where you help people professionally.   David Thomas Hind  34:43   Yeah, so health is clearly my primary focus. It has been for years, and I started as a health and wellness coach 1213 years ago. It wasn't something that I designed, I didn't say this is going to be the thing that I. Do with my life, it just sort of happened. I had always been very health conscious. Well, I have been since my 20s, I should say. I actually grew up a fat kid, so I have that ingrained in me, and I think that that shaped a lot of the person that I became later on, which is probably a story for another time. But since my early 20s, I've been very health focused, health conscious, and people took notice of that, and became part of my identity. And after graduating from college, a few years out, a lot of my friends went into Wall Street. They were working 18 hour days, literally sleeping at the office, and started reaching out for help. So I started making guides for them, and then I realized no, they actually need more personal attention, because there's an accountability factor. A lot of people know intellectually what to do, but it's the behavioral, it's the following through with it. It's yeah, but it's 10pm and I'm exhausted, and I have three more hours to go to get this project done, and all I want to do is like shove junk food in my mouth, right? It's those moments where your intellect completely goes away, and that primal overdrive takes over. So I started shaping myself into somebody who became extremely available for my clients, where I really thought of myself as a partner in their daily experience, and part of my role is to give them the information, but most of the time these people are actually the experts of their own lives, so like I couldn't tell a surgeon how to do his work or her work, right? And that's not my role, but my role can be to be a partner in their life experience, to make sure that they're following through with their intentions.    David Thomas Hind  36:38   These people hold themselves to very high standards. Are you following through with that? How are we making your goals achievable on a daily basis? So, let's think about the long term, the medium term, the week term, and then the daily term, right? What are the rocks that we're moving this month, this week, today, actually being able to share all these things? Right, talking about the hard things, this thing happened at work when it came to food and health coaching, like, you know, I just want to go and blow off steam and go to the club tonight, or go drinking with my friends, or whatever, and you know, having somebody to actually talk that through with, to make sure that, yeah, but how is that going to impact tomorrow, and this other thing that you said you wanted to accomplish, right? So, as a young man I had no training going into any of this other than my own fascination with health, my own health transformation and journey in my early 20s, but this call it menage of personal growth, routine building, habit building, psychological construct of why do we know better but do the opposite, why do we do things that are wrong for us, right? And then, how do we check that part of us and build new patterns? So, as I grew in my entrepreneurial journey, and as an operator, I started to incorporate what I was learning in the work with my clients, and I started to choose clients who were growth-oriented and who tended to be entrepreneurs and people who were building things or what then turned into members of leadership teams, etc. etc. etc. And yeah, it's been this symbiotic journey of my personal growth informs the work that I do with my clients and vice versa. And then, of course, over time I got more formal training and have never stopped trying to become better, so that I can really service my clients as well as possible.   David Thomas Hind  38:26   I mean, they put a lot of trust in this relationship, and from my side, I try to show up as the most powerful service provider they've ever experienced. I really think of myself as a partner, less of a coach, more of like a partner. I think of myself as like the COO of their life, I am extremely present for them. We're communicating throughout the day, through text, through voice memo. We do weekly calls.   David Thomas Hind  38:50   Yes, it was kind of funny, Daniel. I remember when I first asked, what your coaching style was like? Like, ask if you do a weekly email or a Zoom call with those people. Yeah, I quickly learned, oh no, it's not like that at all.    David Thomas Hind  39:02   No, we're in the trenches together. Anybody on the outside of your life wouldn't necessarily know that I'm there on your team, I'm on the phone behind the screen, but it's because I want this to be as private of an experience as possible. So, full confidentiality, this is very private. I become somebody that you can share the like scariest, worst, most vulnerable parts of yourself, not judge you and help you turn those into strengths. I feel like I said, we're game planning just about every day together, and really, I give as much energy as you're gonna give, so somebody who is resistant to this sort of work, you're not going to get a lot out of it. I can't force anything, because it's not like I'm in the room with you, right? We are communicating digitally, but I do try to make myself as present in your life as possible, because a lot of people at the top don't have a lot of people. That they trust, you know, they're always providing for other people, they don't provide for themselves as much, they let themselves go. So to have somebody who's giving that back to them can be very, very, very, very, very life affirming and life giving. And yeah, I feel like I have the best job in the world that really nobody knows about, that I couldn't have possibly constructed or imagined for myself either. And it's like a very unique thing in the world, and I'm just so, so grateful that I, that I can do it.   Keith Weinhold  40:25   It is, it gets so personal. Yes, you're frequently texting and messaging people, and yeah, I mean, you must know a lot of information before that client's spouse even does in a lot of cases. Yeah, what an unusual and interesting thing to be doing. Well, Daniel, I hope it's not an imposition, but if you're still open to it, I know you mentioned before that you know that we haven't known each other all that long, but just based on our mutual friends that you would potentially offer private one on one coaching to GRE listeners, so if you're still open to that, tell us about it and what it takes to apply to work with you.   David Thomas Hind  41:00   Yeah, I appreciate that, and I do have spots available, so if anybody, thank you, listening today thought, wow, the way that he's speaking about his clients is how I feel about myself, right? Anything that I said, then I'd say you're a good candidate. So the best way to get in touch with me is just to go to my website, it's my full name, Daniel Thomas Hind, h i n d.com and you can fill out an application, and if you're a good fit, we'll get on a call, it's a free consultation, and on that call we talk about you, we talk about you, and I'm going to find out what it is that you actually want, what it is that's getting in the way, and how I might be able to serve, and that's the only way that we can work together. There's one offering, it's private one on one coaching, and it is an uncommon way to get extraordinary results. So I'm looking for people who believe that there's more, and if you lead with that, then you're gonna, you're gonna get what you want. So, yeah. For anybody who that resonates with, I would love to talk to you.   Keith Weinhold  42:10   Well, Daniel, this has been terrific. I think you said at least one thing that resonates with a lot of people, where they thought, oh my gosh, I can see myself with what he is describing right now, because we all have this gap between who we are and who we could be, the gap in the gain. If this is potentially of interest to you, yes. Thanks, Daniel. You can visit danielthomashind.com That's been great having you here on the show.   David Thomas Hind  42:36   Thanks, Keith. It's been a real pleasure, and it's been a pleasure getting to know you as well. So, more to come.    Keith Weinhold  42:47   The ideal person that Daniel helps is someone named Pierre. Pierre is between the ages of 38 and 50. He's either a tech founder, agency owner, online business owner, real estate investor, or some other flavor of entrepreneur who has built a business doing 500k to 5 million plus a year and is taking home around 350k or more than that, and by every measure that other people use to judge a life, Pierre has won, and he knows it, that's part of what makes this so confusing for him, because Pierre's pain points are physical burnout, which Daniel and I talked about, cognitive decline from the burnout, and before I met Daniel, I didn't even know that burnout could cause cognitive decline, leadership erosion, a marriage on autopilot, where a marriage becomes just another thing that you're managing rather than living. Pierre's also got an identity crisis, and he's got success as the trap, because by every measure that other people use to judge a life, Pierre has won, and that's what makes a situation like this, so confusing, because see, he can't complain to anyone, since from the outside everything looks perfect. But here's what makes someone like Pierre coachable: he's a winner. He's always expected more of himself than anyone around him would dare to ask. He's someone who has never been satisfied with good enough, and he's always been willing to get uncomfortable to unlock the next level. He didn't build a multi million dollar business by accident. You build that by being relentless, being honest with yourself, and refusing to coast. And that same instinct is the reason that Pierre knows he needs coaching. He's not looking for someone to make him feel better about where he is. He's looking for someone to grab him by the shoulders and hoist him into the best version of himself that he knows is still in there. He wants a revamp, health, business, marriage, identity, creativity, purpose. The whole thing, he wants to feel like himself again, and he's willing to do whatever it takes to get there. Pierre's dream outcome is that 12 months from now, he is the healthiest, most creatively alive, highest agency version of himself that he's ever been. He runs the business on his terms, he has built or launched the thing that he's been sitting on for years. Maybe it's the new product, or maybe it's the book that he's always wanted to write. He's taking vacations with his family. He has a phone off policy from dinner time on, so that he's present and he knows who he is when he's not performing. In fact, there's very little performing because he's in flow and the magic is back, so Pierre really describes the journey. Big thanks to Daniel Thomas Hein.   Keith Weinhold  45:54    Today, so great to host him, considering that he rarely does public appearances like this. Next week, it'll be back to our core real estate content. Hey, and a thanks too to the amazing Terry Kerr, the founder of Mid South Homebuyers. He's such a giving guy that it's really no surprise that he would let his story be told for your benefit. So we got to talk about the part that you don't see here. What's behind a person as successful as a property provider to all these hundreds or 1000s of investors across the nation. If you think that performance coaching can help you, you can apply, but since it is highly personalized one on one coaching, he can only take a select few, but it's a rare opportunity. You can do so at Daniel Thomas hind.com and from there you can go on and talk about your favorite subject, which is talking about yourself with him. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  46:58   Nothing. Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Keith Weinhold  47:24   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, getricheducation.com

Today, we're diving into the wisdom, And perhaps the warnings, Of one of the most iconic voices in personal finance, Robert Kiyosaki.   Now, you've probably heard his famous advice: 'Buy assets, not liabilities,' or his stories about the Rich Dad and the Poor Dad. But here's the thing - hile Kiyosaki's early lessons transformed the way many of us think about money, his more recent tone has taken a darker turn.   But today, Ken Raiss, Director of Metropole World Advisory, and I discuss, what's still relevant, what's changed, and how can we apply his insights to today's market, especially here in Australia.   Takeaways  ·         Wealth is built by acquiring assets, not liabilities. ·         Your mindset significantly influences your financial outcomes. ·         Education is essential, but experience teaches valuable lessons. ·         Taking action is crucial; waiting for perfect conditions can hinder progress. ·         A strategic plan is necessary for successful investing. ·         Mistakes are opportunities for learning and growth. ·         Surround yourself with supportive and successful individuals. ·         Long-term investment perspectives yield better results. ·         Economic uncertainties are inevitable; prepare for them. ·         Financial independence allows for greater life choices.   Links and Resources:   Answer this week's trivia question here - https://www.propertytrivia.com.au/ ·        Win a hard copy of What Every Property Investor Needs To Know About Finance, Tax And The Law ·        Everyone wins a copy of a fully updated property report – What's ahead for property for 2026 and beyond.   Michael Yardney   Get the team at Metropole Wealth Advisory to create a Strategic Wealth plan for your needs. Click here and have a chat with us   Ken Raiss, Director of Metropole Wealth Advisory    Get a bundle of eBooks and Reports at: www.PodcastBonus.com.au    Also, please subscribe to my other podcast Demographics Decoded with Simon Kuestenmacher – just look for Demographics Decoded wherever you are listening to this podcast and subscribe so each week we can unveil the trends shaping your future. About The Michael Yardney Podcast | Property Investment And Wealth Creation  Australia The Michael Yardney Podcast helps Australians build financial independence through strategic investing, wealth creation strategies and smart property decisions. We go beyond property headlines to discuss: Building long-term wealth Creating intergenerational wealth Passive income strategies Australia Asset allocation and portfolio growth Financial freedom through property Strategic investing for professionals and business owners Risk management and wealth protection Structuring your investments for capital growth Money management and financial habits If you want to move from earning an income to building assets that fund your lifestyle, this podcast will help you think and act like a successful investor. Discover more insights at:https://propertyupdate.com.au https://metropole.com.au

David Richter is the author of Profit First for Real Estate Investors and founder of Simple CFO, a company built to help real estate investors get control of their cash flow, pay themselves consistently, and stop living deal to deal. He spent nearly a decade inside a real estate business that scaled to 25 wholesale deals a month, where he eventually took the finance seat, only to discover they were spending more than they were making — and that nearly everyone around them was in the same boat.In this featured episode, David joins Jason Lucchesi on the No Flipping Excuses show to walk through the exact financial foundation every investor needs from their first deal forward. From the Golden Trio bank accounts to finding your keep number to what clean financials actually look like to a lender, this conversation gives real estate investors a clear, no-excuse starting point for building a profitable business.This is a practical, straight-talk episode for investors at every stage — whether you're still waiting on deal one or you're ten years in and still chasing your tail. If you've ever wondered where your money goes after a deal closes, or why more deals aren't translating to more personal wealth, this is the episode that answers it.David's core message is simple: real estate is the vehicle, but money is the game. And most investors don't know the rules. This conversation gives you the foundation to start playing it right.Episode Highlights[0:26] – David teases the episode: $25 deals a month while going broke, the Golden Trio accounts, and the keep number framework[1:13] – Jason Lucchesi opens the No Flipping Excuses interview and introduces David Richter[3:16] – David's origin story: started in real estate at 19 after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad, joined a team doing 5 wholesale deals a month and helped scale it to 800+ total deals[4:35] – How David ended up in the finance seat with zero accounting background, and what he learned sitting down with the CPA to understand profit, loss, and cash flow[5:14] – The wake-up call: doing $25 deals a month but spending $26 worth out the door — and realizing at masterminds that this was an industry-wide problem[7:07] – Why Gary Harper's recommendation of Profit First hit David so hard, and how it led him to partner with Mike Michalowicz on a real estate-specific edition[9:31] – Why the classic "pay yourself first" advice from Rich Dad and The Richest Man in Babylon always stopped short — and what Profit First does differently[12:09] – The #1 mistake most investors make: the single "black hole" account where all money comes in and disappears, with every decision based solely on the balance[13:52] – Introducing the Golden Trio: profit, owner's comp, and owner's tax accounts — and why even 1% into each is enough to start breaking the deal-to-deal cycle[15:31] – Why Relay Bank partnered with Profit First and how to open up to 20 accounts for free to implement the system right now[21:23] – How to figure out realistic starting percentages, why 1% beats 0%, and when to begin ramping toward the recommended targets based on your revenue range[24:10] – The lender advantage: why having clean, structured financials and visible reserves makes you far more attractive for financing on rentals and portfolio growth[26:35] – Role play: two investors walk into a bank — one sloppy, one Profit First-style — and what actually happens in underwriting[29:49] – Finding your keep number: how one investor lost $70,000 in 2019, found his number, and realized he only needed five deals in 2020 to hit his goal[35:10] – David's two book recommendations: Crucial Conversations (for life, marriage, and leadership) and Fix This Next by Mike Michalowicz (for diagnosing your business stage)5 Key TakeawaysThe single bank account is the root problem. Most investors run their entire business out of one account and make every spending decision based on the balance. Splitting into multiple named accounts creates instant clarity about what money is yours, what belongs to taxes, and what's actually available to invest.Start with the Golden Trio, not a perfect system. Profit, owner's comp, and owner's tax accounts are the three that matter most first. Even putting 1% into each from every deal builds the habit and keeps you from sending everything out the back end of your business.The Hope and Pray plan is not a strategy. Hoping a deal closes before payroll is due isn't business management, it's survival mode. Knowing your keep number — the actual monthly amount you need to take home — replaces hope with a real target and changes how you size deals, marketing spend, and growth.More deals don't fix a broken system. Scaling a business that loses money on cash flow just creates bigger losses at higher volume. Getting the financial foundation right at five deals a month means you're actually building something — not just generating more chaos with more zeros.Clean financials make you a better borrower. Lenders look at reserves, structure, and cash management. Investors running Profit First-style accounts with visible cash buffers get better terms, faster approvals, and more lender interest than operators with sloppy books, regardless of how many deals they've closed.Links & ResourcesProfit First for Real Estate Investors (free copy) — https://www.simplecfo.com/giftSimple CFO (book, podcast, and discovery call) — https://www.simplecfo.comRelay Bank (Profit First-friendly banking, up to 20 free accounts) — https://www.relay.comProfit First by Mike Michalowicz — available on Audible and AmazonCrucial Conversations by Kerry Patterson et al. — available on Audible and AmazonFix This Next by Mike Michalowicz — available on Audible and AmazonRich Dad Poor Dad by Robert Kiyosaki — referenced by David as the book that started it allClosing RemarkIf this episode gave you a clearer picture of what your finances should actually look like, share it with an investor friend who's still running everything through one account. The Golden Trio is a simple starting point anyone can implement this week, and it might be the most impactful hour they spend on their business all year. Subscribe, review, and share the show — and if you're ready to get your numbers dialed in, visit https://www.simplecfo.com to book your free discovery call today.

Neal Bawa - Grocapitus and MultifamilyU On Using the Right Tools to Make Good Decisions: "I said, I'm going to mine as much data as possible and try to get insights from that data." Many investors use real estate investing as an investment vehicle in their portfolio.  Most of those investors are looking at their local real estate market and trying to find deals that can pump out the returns they want. But the world is smaller now, and real estate investing in your backyard is no longer necessary.  You can invest hundreds of miles away and possibly turn over a stronger margin.  The way to find the best place to invest, starts with gathering data and comparing places. Neal Bawa, known widely as the "mad scientist of multifamily," is the engineer turned real estate investor that combines his knowledge of real estate, data science, and artificial intelligence. Neal shares his unconventional journey from running a successful tech company to revolutionizing real estate investing through data-driven decisions and AI-powered tools. Neal weathered the housing crash of 2008, built a thriving syndication business and a free educational community at MultifamilyU. Listen as Neal teaches us how to be fascinated by real estate, curious about the AI revolution, and to seek new ways to scale and automate your business. Enjoy! Visit Neal at: https://multifamilyu.com/ Sponsors: Calls On Call Extraordinary Answering Service, phone answering for small businesses: https://callsoncall.com Some videos have been recorded with Riverside: https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=james-kademan   Podcast Overview: 00:00 Bringing IV therapy to Madison 05:39 Navigating Franchise Regulations 07:47 IV therapy goes mainstream in Tokyo 12:50 Curated med spa offerings 14:44 Choosing Hydrate IV Bar for Madison 19:02 Starting with franchise questions 20:37 Building a Health-Focused Community 24:53 Benefits of Vitamin D Supplementation 27:55 Challenges with supplement patents 32:20 Functional medicine consultations at Hydrate 34:08 Patient advocacy and safe care 39:05 Frequency of sessions per week 41:33 Supplements and their credibility 47:04 Choosing the right location 48:42 Optimizing franchise location space 52:48 Hiring nurses for IV procedures 56:16 Spa services and mobile options Podcast Transcription: Neal Bawa [00:00:00]: We are currently at 1% of the data center needs that we have where humanity is going through the greatest change in its existence. Greater than the invention of the wheel, greater than the invention of fire, greater than the invention of the personal computer and the Internet put together. We have never seen anything of this Type. The smartphone wasn't even 1% of the AI revolution. And we think of the smartphone as the greatest invention of our times. It's nothing compared to AI. James [00:00:37]: You have found Authentic Business Adventures, the business program that brings you the struggle stories and triumphant successes of business owners across the land. Downloadable audio episodes can be found in the podcast link found@drawincustomers.com we are locally unwritten by the bank of Sun Prairie Calls On Call, Extraordinary answering service, the Bold Business Book as well as Live Switch. And today we're welcoming, preparing to learn from Neil Bawa of Growcapitus. I'm told, Neil, you are the mad scientist of multifamily. Is that true? Neal Bawa [00:01:10]: It's a moniker I present at many conferences. So I presented at over 101 of the times when I was walking up to the stage, they were announcing and talking about me. The announcer said, the mad scientists of multifamily. And that got a nice gasp out of the audience and I was like, I like this. And so the next year I went to the conference, he introduced me as a mad scientist. And then eventually I was like, people like this concept because it helps them understand that I'm data driven. I'm very AI focused. And so it's an interesting moniker. Neal Bawa [00:01:41]: I don't have the dark brown hair, but I mean that's how I roll. So I let it be and eventually it became part of our story. James [00:01:51]: That is incredible. So tell me the story. How did you end up with the moniker of the mad scientist of multifamily? That's not something people throw randomly around. Neal Bawa [00:02:00]: Yeah, so look, I'm not a real estate guy, not a real estate royalty. No one in my family is in real estate. I'm a technologist. I'm from India, came here as a computer scientist. Data science is my area of interest. I'm an amateur data scientist, but my degree is in computer science and I ran a tech company from 1999 to 2013. Very successful, not a start up, you know, hundreds of employees. And we sold it in 2013. Neal Bawa [00:02:28]: And my interest in real estate started when the senior partner in the firm, I was a junior partner, basically said in 2003, we are not going to rent, we are going to build our own campus. And this wasn't a multifamily campus at that time. It was an office campus for a business. And, you know, we had 150 employees, and we were renting from somebody. And he didn't like that. So he, under his guidance and his expert advice, I built the first campus in 2003. We took 12 months to build it. We had no investors. Neal Bawa [00:03:00]: We had no bank. It was just all cash. We built it ourselves because the business was quite profitable. At the end of that process, I realized just the extraordinary, shockingly high benefits that you get when you use depreciation, Right? Cause this big campus, 27,000 square feet, and I just all of a sudden was making. Taking a lot more money home. I wasn't making more money. I was just taking a lot more money home because the depreciation of that building was phenomenal. And that got me hooked into real estate. Neal Bawa [00:03:30]: Because at one time, I remember after that building was done, James, I remember saying to my wife, I think real estate is the best authorized tax scam in America. Now, obviously, I didn't know depreciation back then. I didn't understand accounting. Now I understand that there's nothing scammy about it. You know, depreciation is a legitimate right. And you take it for real estate. You can also take it for other things. But for real estate, it's. Neal Bawa [00:03:56]: It's extremely beneficial compared to any other form of depreciation, any other business. And so I realized that I, you know, I had the big fat tax salary, and I was living in Taxifornia, so I was basically working for the man. 50% of my salary was going to state and federal. And so I said, I need to find a way around this, because I read a book by Robert Kiyosaki, and I remember the statement, it's not what you make, it's what you keep. Right? And I was like, I ain't keeping much of my salary. So I was like, okay, I need to get into real estate. So I went back to my boss and said, you know, what we did with this campus was really great. Let's do it again. Neal Bawa [00:04:31]: And so we built a bunch more campuses. I think four or five campuses were built and improved coming up to 2008. And so each year, what would happen is I was keeping more and more of my income because of all the depreciation that I was getting. And so I was saving and saving and saving. And so I'd ended up with, you know, pretty large amount of money by the time 2008 hit. And then when that happened, all of a sudden, property values plummeted. They went down. And so I would go to, you know, my family events and everyone would just bash real estate. Neal Bawa [00:04:58]: Everyone's like, this is horrible. Don't buy real estate. It's horrible, horrible. It's going to crash. You know, it's worth nothing, blah, blah, blah. And you can imagine everyone was saying that because, you know, all the television, on the tv you're just hearing bad news, bad news. Every day it's bad news. It can only go down further. Neal Bawa [00:05:11]: You know, millions and millions of homes are in foreclos. And I'm like, I don't understand this. I don't understand. I mean, I'm from the Warren Buffett school of investing, which is, you know, when things are cheap, you buy them. So I'm like, but I don't want to make a mistake. You know, I have this money, this, that I've saved up over the last five or six years. I want to go out and buy as many single family homes as I can. But I don't want to make a mistake. Neal Bawa [00:05:34]: What if I'm just an idiot that knows nothing? So I decided that I would basically educate myself. And I did that in the typical way that, you know, technologists and engineers do. I said, I'm going to mine as much data as possible and try to get insights from that data. So I started mining websites like Bureau of Labor Statistics and Zillow and Trulia and Redfin and you know, all these other sites that realtor.com that you've heard about in the real estate area. And I'm mining gigabytes of data and putting them into a statistical analysis software called R. The software is R and statisticians know it. And you know what R does? It makes it easy for you to take huge amounts of data that you know nothing about and give you insights, right? These days, AI does it and it even does it better than the software. But back then there was no AI. Neal Bawa [00:06:23]: So the software would give you insights, it would give you correlation. So you could say something like, show me real estate profits that are made in this city and this city and this city and correlate that real estate profit with these various things that I'm looking at. What is the highest correlation? Is the correlation of profits highest to population growth or job growth or income growth or home price growth or crime reduction or schools. Where's the correlation? The connection? The biggest, right? And then based on that correlation,...

Most people say they want financial breakthrough, but very few are actually walking in the faith it takes to get there. In this episode, Ray Higdon delivers a powerful and challenging message for anyone who feels stuck financially. The problem, Ray says, isn't strategy or timing. It's who you're being every single day, and whether you're truly walking in faith or just claiming to be. Ray draws on scripture, personal stories, and hard-won business experience to unpack what walking in faith actually looks like in practice. He shares the moment his company faced a $1.1 million hotel bill for a major event, how he was led to bring in John Maxwell as a speaker despite the enormous financial pressure, and why that obedience, not logic, produced the breakthrough. He also unpacks the parable of the talents, Abraham's willingness to sacrifice Isaac, and David's posture before Goliath to illustrate what genuine faith-driven decision-making looks like when the numbers don't make sense. This episode will challenge you to stop holding on so tightly to the money you have that you miss the investment God is calling you toward. If every opportunity looks like a cost instead of a door, this message is for you. Ray's raw honesty and faith-based perspective make this one of the most compelling episodes for entrepreneurs and network marketers who want God-led financial growth, not just hustle. —

Keith shares his "dirty dozen" due diligence questions every investor should ask before buying property, from gauging build-to-rent saturation and local job growth to testing cash flow and exit strategies.  He explains why even new-builds still need inspections and how to think about rents that may stay flat while expenses rise.  Aundrea Newbern, an experienced investor, broker, and property manager active in Southeast Georgia and Michigan, offers a real-world look at today's long-term and short-term rental markets, including shifting tenant behavior and local restrictions.  She also details how she's using AI to streamline property management, improve screening, optimize pricing, and cut maintenance costs, giving listeners practical ideas to apply in their own portfolios. Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/610 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  FAMILY to 66866  Unlock truly passive real estate income—visit flockhomes.com/GRE today to see if your properties qualify for a 721 exchange with Flock Homes. To get in the best physical, mental, and professional shape of your life, go to DanielThomasHind.com and apply for Daniel's intensive 1-on-1 coaching for burnt-out entrepreneurs and executives. Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Keith, welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, talking about vital due diligence questions that you have to know the answers to before you buy your next property. Even advanced investors don't know to ask some of these. Then a terrific guest tells us how she is practically applying AI to increase rental occupancy, save on maintenance expenses and drive rental income today on Get Rich Education.   Speaker 1  0:28   Since 2014 the powerful Get Rich Education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord show host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors, and delivers a new show every week. Since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads in 188 world nations. He has a list show guests and key top-selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps. Build wealth on the go with the Get Rich Education podcast. Sign up now for the Get Rich Education podcast, or visit getricheducation.com   Keith Weinhold  1:11   You know, Mid South Home Buyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider, I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties, it's an executive coach for nine years now. Their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners, his name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to danielthomashind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spotsville Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at flockhomes.com/gre that's F L O C K homes.com / G R E.   Speaker 2  2:57   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  3:13   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The world's biggest problems are also the world's biggest businesses. That's not a coincidence, and it squarely includes the problem of having enough quality housing. We talk about how to do that profitably and diligently, and on the topic of diligence, I've got a dirty dozen due diligence questions, call it I suppose these are smart questions to ask before you get under contract to buy your next property, and some of these could just as well apply to your existing rental property. Build to rent properties have become so popular, but ask the question, are these build to rent properties becoming overbuilt in this neighborhood? That's the first due diligence question, and a lot of investors overlook this, so you got to be mindful that build to rent often means lots of new construction in one smaller defined area. What you should do is ensure that new supply is being absorbed by renters. Some red flags to look out for are if multiple nearby communities are offering heavy concessions or free rent enticements, that is a sign that they're having difficulty luring in new renters to the area, and now taking a couple months to rent a brand new build isn't that unusual, but does the whole thing kind of feel like a mattress liquidation sale? Renters shouldn't have more signing bonuses than NFL free agents. The next due diligence question: Does this market still have population? And job growth, or am I late to the party? New workplace construction is a bullish market sign. Workplace construction, I'm talking about like a new office building, especially a new medical clinic, a new data center, a new factory. These signs are super bullish for an area, because not only does that attract the jobs and support the housing, as you can imagine, but see, that also means that whomever built the new workplace, oh, they probably did some research, and they're bullish about that area for a reason, they're going to look into that and do their due diligence that you can leverage before they spend perhaps 10s of millions of dollars or more in building a new workplace.    Keith Weinhold  5:45   The population should be stable or rising. Red flags are if growth already peaked and layoffs are increasing, don't arrive late to the party after the DJ has already packed up. The next question, when you're looking into a property, is is this unit likely to cash flow on day one? You know, you need to wonder, is the unit occupied or vacant. Some investors don't even think to ask that question until they get down the road a ways. When it's occupied, does the rent meet or exceed expenses with a buffer for maintenance and vacancy, now, if it's negatively cash flowing and you're solely enjoying the other four ways real estate pays, that might be okay, but you need to be comfortable with adopting a monthly bill that may or may not work. And do you know what I call a negatively cash flowing property? I call it a 401k property, because you have to keep feeding it every month like it's a 401k. A negatively cash flowing property effectively reduces your salary like a 401k does, and anyone that is serious about building real wealth when they're young enough to enjoy it would not invest in a 401k outside of the employer match portion.    Keith Weinhold  7:07   I'm your host Keith Weinhold. Here on Get Rich Education, episode 610 I've answered three out of twelve dirty dozen due diligence questions, and with abundantly minded grow your means answers that you're just not going to find on ChatGPT. Before I get to the fourth one, do you know what the word diligence means? Anyway, you probably have some idea. The definition of diligence is the quality of working carefully and persistently, demonstrating steady effort and thorough attention to a task. It implies a strong work ethic, meticulousness, and a commitment to completing duties well. All right, that is the definition. Diligence is the opposite of negligence. The next one, does my new build property need an inspection first? And this is a question, actually, that came in from Jake in Manhattan. Yes, it always does, whether it's resale or new build. It is always a good idea to get an inspection. One of the biggest misconceptions, really, is that new build means problem free.   Keith Weinhold  8:16   People just equate new build with problem free. No, that is not the case. New build can have problems. There could still be foundation cracks that are beyond normal settling, perhaps improperly installed roof flashing that could cause leaks, maybe windows or doors that are installed out of square, and a bunch more stuff that could be wrong, even in new build a presale inspection after you get the property under contract that only costs 350-650 dollars for single family rentals and 500-900 dollars for a duplex. This is cheap insurance. It's also good peace of mind, get it done. Sometimes investors want to skip the inspection when they need a quick close. Buyer, beware of the risk. The fifth due diligence question: What happens to my numbers if rents flatten for two years? And this is a more germane question than usual today, because rent growth is slow here in this cycle. Single-family rents are up just 1.3% year over year per totality, and expenses tend to rise with inflation. All right, so if your rents flatten for two years, project that ahead like your other expenses are rising, and see that the property would still remain financially stable. We cannot build a business plan on motivational quotes. Next, am I buying near major employers or near hopes and dreams with work from home trends, which can probably better be called. Called work from anywhere, trends buying near major employers is actually less important today, but it still matters. It is good to have diversified employers and stable payrolls somewhat nearby. Promises about future development might never happen. Sheesh, some areas have been up and coming since cassette tapes, the seventh due diligence question, what's the property tax trajectory here? That's the question. Taxes are often stable and increases predictable, but is there a local budget shortfall? And see, this is the type of due diligence that few people do keep in mind, and I'm bringing up new build a lot, because there are so many new build income properties today on new builds. Also, look out, year one taxes can look deceptively low until improved property is assessed in year two, and any reputable provider, and when you contact our GRE investment coaching here, we're going to point that out to you.    Keith Weinhold  11:05   This is how you can, though, sometimes get unusually low property taxes in year one if they have not assessed the improvement yet. Question eight, and this comes from Violet in Peoria, Arizona, is the builder offering real incentives, or are they just hiding the true price? Okay, well, incentives - they should genuinely improve your deal without inflating the pricing. Here, look out for sunglasses and a fake mustache for financing. It's mandatory that you have an appraisal. This protects you against overpaying in an appraisal, even though it's done for bank collateral purposes, checking the quality of their collateral, which is the property, you know, it is also a good independent third-party valuation check. This is a good tool to keep you from overpaying. Back around the 2008 days, the global financial crisis, you know, often then the lender and the appraiser could collude to give you favorable appraisals, somewhat inflated values, and as it turned out, I was an investor then and ended up being the beneficiary of some of those favorable appraisals, but since then the CFPB, the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, stepped in. They were formed to step in, so that those parties are no longer in cahoots with each other, and yes, incentives are explicitly disclosed to the lender and appraiser. For example, if you have a seller that offers to pay half of your closing costs if you pay their full sale price. Okay, the appraisers do know that they have that information before they provide you with the appraised value. Ninth, what's the vacancy rate in this area right now? This is a good due diligence question to ask. A balanced market has about five to 6% vacancy, eight to 10% or more. That can often be the sign of a weak market, but this might be all right in build to rent communities, and that's due to longer initial lease up periods that you have there. Due diligence question 10. Would I still want this property if appreciation slowed dramatically? You want to ask yourself this question because you cannot predict appreciation. The answer to this question is most likely yes.   Keith Weinhold  13:35   You would still want the property even if appreciation slowed dramatically, because as a listener here, you understand that with a 20% down payment, just 2% price appreciation creates a 10% return on your equity, and you're also benefiting from the other four ways real estate pays, but if you're absolutely counting on appreciation to do all of the heavy lifting over the long term, that's less investing, and that is more hoping with spreadsheets. What's more predictable is something like inflation profiting on your loan, which is a force on its own. Next, ask this question: How old are the big ticket items like the roof, HVAC, plumbing, sewer, and electrical? I mean, if you get a number of expensive items that are near the end of their life, you could soon become emotionally attached to ibuprofen. At GRE Marketplace, we work with either extensively renovated properties or new build properties, so this is rarely a concern. These big capex items, capital expenditures, and that is really the way to go. Extensively renovated or new build property, because see that way the cost of having all this done for you both. Before you buy the property, that means that what you're essentially doing is financing the cost of all this into the loan, you're financing into the new roof, HVAC, plumbing, sewer, electrical, if any of that applies, and if you're buying a fixer upper, well, then a lot of times you need to pay cash for these items, and you lose repair time where the property could have been rented during that renovation time. Work with our investment coaching here, and you're going to be all set. Those big ticket items are rarely a concern. And then what happens is, if you have a break even or a positively cash flowing property. The tenant covers all of your operating expenses with the rent payment, and you never have to pay any money at all for these big ticket items. They pay for your mortgage and everything else, and you never lose the time because these things were done before you bought.    Keith Weinhold  16:01   And the last one question 12. What you want to ask is, what's the exit strategy if I ever want to sell? That's the last question. Begin with the end in mind. The fewer doors the property has, the easier it is to sell. Single family homes win big here. I mean, your eventual buyer down the road, they could be a gleeful owner occupant, even if the rental math were poor. That buyer wouldn't even know that the rental math is poor, because they're not renting it out, they're going to live there themselves. Sometimes your single family rental tenant even becomes your eventual buyer. This can work with duplexes too. Sometimes you can get an owner occupant, or your tenant stays there and continues to reside there as they're the owner, and they rent out the other side as well. But if you're trying to sell at 30 duplex, well, now you're exposed to cap rates and investor sentiment and market cycles, it's sort of like trying to offload a small corporation. That doesn't mean that apartments are bad, but they are substantially less liquid than single family rentals. That's your exit strategy that we're looking at. They are the dirty dozen due diligence questions every investor feels bumps, I have you will too, but these questions and answers are really going to go a long way toward helping you own right, and when you stick with it, real estate is a forgiving and lucrative asset class because you're paid in so many ways. Hey, coming up shortly, a guest that you haven't heard from in a while, and I know that some of you have missed hearing her voice. We'll talk a bit about the state of the real estate market here in a period where prices are remarkably stable, housing transactions are only about 80% what they usually are, and then we'll discuss how she's using AI in her real estate investing today. It's how she's increasing her occupancy and optimizing the amount of rent being collected. She splits her time in a couple ways between real estate markets in both Michigan and Georgia, and then in both the short term and long-term rental markets. That's next. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education. What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine?   Keith Weinhold  18:31   You sure can at Ridge Lending Group, NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone, because Ridge specializes in investment property, they'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal, and even chat directly with President Chayley Ridge. 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Go to Freedom Family investments.com to book a clarity call, or text Family 266-866 that's Family 266-866,    Speaker 3  20:02   Hi, this is Russell Gray, co-host of the Real Estate Guys Radio Show, and you're listening to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream. We've got a special treat for you today is for the first time in a few years we hear from someone that's served since 2020 in house here in both operations and as an investment coach. Today she serves GRE in a different capacity internally, but a lot of you still ask about her. That's why she's here. She's got both the formal education with her MBA, and is about as robust in being a real estate investor as you can be at the same time. Oh, it's a warm welcome back to the talented Andrea Newburn.   Aundrea Newbern  20:51   Hey, Keith, it's so great to be back. It's been a long time.   Keith Weinhold  20:54   Well, you've continued to grow not just in your business but in your family size since you were last here. Congrats there. I'd like your thoughts, just generally, about the American residential real estate investment market today, where we've got these sort of rising prices in low supply areas, we have slightly falling prices in oversupplied areas, we've got mortgage rates that have normalized, we've got tough affordability for renters that want to be first time home buyers, so just tell us about what you see, big picture. Andrea,   Aundrea Newbern  21:28   Yeah, absolutely, and so I invest and operate predominantly in the Southeast, so this will probably be a little bit more of a lens from the Southeast market, but as you know, I still actively invest in real estate myself. I help, you know people buy rental properties, also. But then the main thing that I'm doing now is I have a property management company down in Southeast Georgia, and so I'm seeing things more from the lens of what investors are doing, where they're investing, where rents are going, and if people are even buying properties. So it's been a little bit interesting. I mean, what I'm seeing is that, as you all know, it slowed down. We're not seeing as many investors buy properties, but people still are doing it, and they're still finding good cash flowing properties. Where the challenges come in is you're not making as much money on these properties as you did four or five years ago, so you know your margins are going to be a little bit less, your cash flow is going to be a little bit less. And then we're seeing, you know, rents kind of stabilize depending on the type of asset class that it is, so you know things are not doing wonderfully, but they're stable from what I'm seeing in the southeast market,   Keith Weinhold  22:31   and now you do a good bit of investing in sort of Brunswick and out toward the Georgia coast, including places like Jekyll Island, where G. Edward Griffin wrote his book about the formation of the Fed, and all that in general. How has that area been from a residential supply standpoint? For example, we know in neighboring Florida they've had a lot of oversupplied pockets. How are we looking there? I think you have a lot of occupancy right now from talking to you earlier.   Aundrea Newbern  22:59   We do, so I manage two different types of investments, right? I manage the long-term rental properties. There's less of those like on Jekyll Island, there's more of those in the mainland and Brunswick. And then we do the vacation rentals, which is very, very heavy on Jekyll Island and St. Simons Island. What we're seeing this year, if we talk about maybe those vacation rentals first, and then I'll talk about the long-term vacation rentals, we're still seeing a lot of demand, a lot of people are still coming. We're not really down from this time last year, but the one big thing we're seeing is people are booking their vacations last minute, they're not booking them months in advance at this point. So that's definitely had a little bit of an impact and had us on edge, because we're like, okay, where are these vacations? And then, sure enough, they're booking a couple weeks out now, so that's going really well. The investors that have purchased homes on Jekyll and St. Simons, especially Jekyll, are doing really good. They're still making a lot of money. They have high occupancy. Where are we seeing a little bit more of the challenge is with the long-term rentals. So rents are kind of staying flat from where they were last year in some of those B and C markets. We may even see a slight decrease, just a couple percentage points, and then it's taking longer to fill the property. So last year we could typically get a qualified runner in in three to four weeks. Now we're seeing anywhere from five to eight weeks. Right now,   Keith Weinhold  24:11   as far as on the short term side, have restrictions affected you at all, like banning Airbnbs, for example, and how have you seen that play out in other areas? Because you certainly network with other people that do short-term rentals. Can you tell us about that?   Aundrea Newbern  24:26   Yeah, absolutely. So I can talk about the Southeast market, for one, where in Jekyll, St. Simons, Brunswick, we're seeing no rental restrictions whatsoever. We do have to have a process to register the rental with a county, but it's so easy. It's literally a form. We do an inspection once a year, and that is it. I don't know that this is a fact, but a lot of the commissioners and politicians in the area also have rental properties. I think that probably has a little bit of an impact on that up here in Michigan, which, you know, I have another home, and I live in Michigan part of the time as well. There's a lot of restrictions, in fact, my. House right now is in Sterling Heights, Michigan, and they already have a rental ban where you can't do less than 30 days, so you're already having to go into that midterm market, and now they have some proposals up with the local municipality to even eliminate some of that, so we're seeing that in this area.   Keith Weinhold  25:17   Generally, do you tend to see it in nicer, ritzier areas where they want to make the short-term rental restrictions.   Aundrea Newbern  25:24   Yes, I do. Absolutely. Up here in Sterling Heights, where I live, the average home of my neighborhood is around five to six hundred thousand dollards and they absolutely do not want those here. But if you go a few neighborhoods over, where you're looking more of like the two hundreed to three hundred thousand dollars range, they don't seem to have as much of an issue with those. There   Keith Weinhold  25:40   We've been talking about short term rentals in both Southeast Georgia and then in Metro Detroit, where you currently spend quite a bit of your time. Talk to us about the long term rental market with affordability for buying being down, that really hurts the prospective first time home buyer, so they need to be more likely to rent, which would make some people wonder. Oh, well, then how could vacancy possibly go up in an area? Well, you know, migration - we've touched on it - is one reason why that might happen. Another reason why it might happen is you might see more doubling up.   Aundrea Newbern  26:15   Yeah, we do. We see a lot more families coming in. In fact, last week we just rented a property out to somebody where the parents were renting with their children, their grown adult children that also had kids, they're getting bigger houses, right? So they're actually feeling that need to fill up some of our larger homes, but it's multi-generational now. We are seeing a lot more roommates come in, too, instead of two roommates, you'll see three people come in and get a house together. The other thing we've noticed that's been really drastic, maybe the last three or four months, is the debt load that we're seeing. So, when we run people's background checks and look, they've got a lot of credit card debt now. We didn't see that as much years prior.   Keith Weinhold  26:50   All right, so you're seeing that at the street level, that's a statistic that we can read about, that American savings rates are down and the proportion of debt is often up. You're seeing it in real time, there. Do you see potentially, Andrea, this propensity for people to want to sort of bend things and have someone that's not on the lease live there with them in order to cut costs? So, you know, is there really anything in this environment that we really need to be careful about when we're screening tenants with them having such a debt load, and having to struggle with inflation and rising prices.   Aundrea Newbern  27:23   Yeah, absolutely. The debt load, number one, you know, we'll see them increasing, and that's something we want to keep an eye on. So, we're having to kind of retool our policies to look more critically at that debt load. They may not be delinquent on anything now, but if we've seen it gone up significantly in the last few months, I bet you it's coming. So, we're trying to retool our policies to be able to deal with that, you mentioned people having unauthorized tenants in the home that has persistently been an issue for us, maybe the past year. We find this often that that's happening, and usually it's because that person wouldn't qualify on the application, but they still bring in money and can help with the rent. The third thing, and this is with the advent of AI, right, how big AI has come is, we're seeing a lot of documents that are clearly fraudulent, but they look really, really good, because AI has created them. So that's another issue.   Keith Weinhold  28:09   Gosh, that's interesting. Well, I want to ask you more about AI, and you know, Aundrea, America is in such a weird time with AI today. You probably saw it at these college graduations across the nation, where a luminary is up front at the lectern making a commencement speech, and they get booed by students for talking about embracing AI, and that's probably because the student feels threatened about AI taking the job that they might not get, and you know what's funny, I suspect there's some of those same students, they loved it when AI helped them write an essay in order to get to graduation and wear that cap and gown, so..   Aundrea Newbern  28:51   Absolutely.   Keith Weinhold  28:52   Yeah, that's what I knew when I say that we're in a weird time with AI, but I know that you've really embraced AI as a property manager and investor almost from the get-go to make your property operations more efficient, so that you don't have to raise prices on owners, and you can keep those owner expenses down and increase resident retention at the same time. So, tell us more about how you're using it.   Aundrea Newbern  29:16   Yeah, so my team, I think, hates me for this right now, but in the last six months we have literally changed our operations front to back in a few different ways. Number one, we've changed the systems that we use, so you know, for vacation rentals as well as long-term rentals, you have your property management system that kind of streamlines everything, and that you do everything in. We've started going to platforms that are a little bit more AI friendly, so they have AI agents built in and they have AI functionality already in them, so that we're not having to purchase additional tools to come in and add them as a layer on top of our systems. So that's kind of the basic thing that we're doing, but the other fun things that I've been able to do, and I'm still, you know, working on this, and we're refining it daily, is using AI actually as kind of like a virtual assistant, essentially. So we do have virtual assistants with a company, and they're great, and we love them, and they do a wonderful job. However, they're human, so they're not perfect, but these AI agents, once you've trained them to do a lot of the back office tasks that your virtual assistants can do, after a certain number of iterations and training, they don't really make mistakes. So knowing that we have that, and we can continue building on that. We don't have to add FTE to our team, which increase our labor costs. That's allowing us to not raise our prices on our clients, and which I'm sure they're all happy about, because other property management companies are doing that right now,   Keith Weinhold  30:33   Right, so property management companies are going to have to do this to stay competitive and keep up, whether they want to or not, and when I think about using AI in real estate, you know, one of the first things I think of, just say that tenant journey from attracting the tenant to placing them. When I think of the cutting edge, I think of help with marketing and writing advertisements, which I think is kind of a simple thing to do, sort of an easy way to implement AI, and also when I think about that early part of the journey, really I think about using AI as a leasing assistant, and sort of how you see that more, the 24/7 front desk, if you will. I mean, if you have an AI leasing assistant that can answer questions for your prospective new tenant and follow up with leads that can be a big deal. I mean, a lead that sits unanswered for six hours, they just kind of turn into a cold French fry, and instead AI can answer those questions and schedule that tour. If a prospective tenant asks the same question four times, you know the AI doesn't get frustrated and leave out some sigh. So, can you tell us more about kind of that front end, the marketing, and then the leasing end? Are you using AI as a leasing assistant essentially?   Aundrea Newbern  31:47   We are. So, if we talk about maybe the marketing piece of things before we get into the leasing, we're not using as much AI with marketing at the moment. I have had it write some copy for me for some marketing, and I'm not usually crazy about it. I still think it looks like AI right now, so we're having to do a lot of changes with that, but what it has done a really good job at helping us out in the last few weeks is have it go analyze your website, have it analyze how you come up in search functions, right? So, if somebody's going to Google or if they're going to Gemini or they're going to Chat GPT, what's happening with your website and your company when people are looking for property managers, for example, it does a very thorough check on that. It's also really good at reviewing your website and telling you where you have gaps in terms of maybe you need to, you know, change something here or there, or you have certain links that are not helping in your search functionality. So, I think it's really good as far as analyzing stuff. That's kind of about all we've done as far as marketing, as far as a leasing assistant goes, this has essentially been like the biggest lift I think we've had from AI, period, in the last couple years. So, maybe a year ago, we implemented a software, and I'm going to leave the name out, because I'm sure you know I'd rather not do that, but it's a software, and there's a bunch of different options that you can use for this, but essentially it collects all of our leads for us, so we set it up, you know, we set criteria for the type of tenant and our policies for, you know, what type of tenant would qualify, and they call in or message or email this number or this email address, and the AI essentially goes through and asks them a series of questions, lets them know if they would potentially qualify or not. If they would not, then it will not allow them to schedule showings for any of our properties, if they would, with no exceptions. Then we can go ahead and get them scheduled, and the AI actually goes through and gets them scheduled as well. So it is a huge help for us.   Keith Weinhold  33:30   That is really nice. Okay, helping out with tenant screening, there can it arrange tours, put them on the calendar, then if they're qualified.   Aundrea Newbern  33:40   Yes, it actually gives them an option and shows them all of the dates we have available, so the person can go ahead and schedule their showing. It can provide updates if we need it, so if we change our policy, it can send that out to the tenants for us as well. So that process I would say is about 90% automated right now. It doesn't really take much human intervention, except for us to review things and make sure there's nothing kind of wonky with the schedule or anything like that.   Keith Weinhold  34:00   Okay, so if they're qualified and interested, the prospective tenant can fill out an application, and then is AI assisting on the screening, and are you still meeting with them in person before they get the keys and sign the contract?   Aundrea Newbern  34:14   Yes, and no. So we still do meet with them in person to be able to do like that walkthrough of the property and make sure we're documenting issues, and all of that, which, by the way, I think in the next year that'll probably be automated as well, but we're not quite there yet. They do not have to come in in person, in terms of signing the lease or anything like that. That's all done remotely. If they want to, they can, but we really don't have to meet with them until it's time for move in at this point.   Keith Weinhold  34:36   All right, we're seeing the evolution of AI since it was really Chat GPT that was pioneering and rolling out in November of 2022 so we're coming up on four years of really this activity being integrated into our lives, and I think we both know that it's only going to get better from here, so when we have a tenant that. It's actually placed, of course. I often like to say they call the discipline property management, but it could probably very well be called tenant management. And I think, about, you know, is everything okay after the tenants there? As far as AI having a maintenance triage function, if there's a maintenance request, of course, you're going to want to prioritize something differently if it's a big plumbing leak that's damaging the subfloor versus just having a slow drain, you know. You probably want to be sure either one of those things are taken care of, but one is going to get priority over the other. So, can you tell us more about after that tenants place the maintenance triage and using AI there?   Aundrea Newbern  35:38   Yeah, so we've pretty much automated the maintenance process in the last year, other than, you know, actually making sure the vendor went out and did what they were supposed to do. So, right now, with us, a tenant has to go in, unless they have a disability and can't do it, of course, but they have to go in and put in any work orders through our system, and essentially what happens is we've created kind of a workflow, so here's the issues of the types of things that would not be considered an emergency unless they answer, you know, certain questions a certain way. Here are the things that are emergencies and requires to go out pretty much no matter what, right? For the things that are non-emergency, or they're not clear in what the actual issue is, which is probably the number one problem we have, is they say, 'My lights aren't working, that's it, we don't know anything else about it, and then come to find out it was just a light bulb, or come to find out it was just their breakers tripping. The AI actually goes in and analyzes what they put in as the issue and selected, and then asks them a series of questions, and then, based on their responses, it actually tells them what to go do to troubleshoot it. We're seeing right now with data, it's eliminating maybe about 40% of the things that we would send somebody out for, yeah, it is huge, and the tenants are doing it, and they're not really pushing back or having issues with it most of the time, but then there are certain things that AI can't quite figure out, we're still training it on, so we do have to send somebody out or call, but it's having a huge reduction in us having to send folks out for this.   Keith Weinhold  36:56   Okay, yeah, we're not talking about completely eliminating humans, but that's huge, if they can have AI give them the answer to maybe some routine maintenance thing, probably that they could have gone and found out on their own, but yeah, that saves 40% of maintenance visits, that's a big deal. All right, so not too much backlash from tenants, not saying, like, oh, hey, I don't want to be talking with your robot, come on, not so much of that.   Aundrea Newbern  37:20   No, not yet. Now we are looking right now at implementing an actual AI agent that would answer the phone to handle these types of just maintenance issues, nothing else but maintenance for right now. And we've tested out a lot of different softwares that do this. Some are better than others, but none of them are perfect yet. And I could call and definitely tell I'm talking to AI, maybe some people couldn't. I feel we're probably going to have a little bit more blowback when that starts getting implemented and rolled out.   Keith Weinhold  37:44   Yeah, I imagine people are just going to get more and more used to this, you know. I wonder, how much AI is helping you with rent pricing, what amount to set the rent for. I mean, for example, isn't it interesting if AI knows that, hey, a bunch of units in the neighborhood all around you, they already have high occupancy. It's really tight in this sub market, where maybe it would advise you to bump up your rent. So, tell us about how AI is helping you with rent pricing.   Aundrea Newbern  38:12   Yeah, so you know, as a broker, I obviously have access to the MLS, which we use for a lot of data, but then sometimes there's rentals that are not on the MLS, so you know an owner went and listed it themselves, and I actually have an agent that their task is to go in every couple of days, and they'll analyze any of our existing listed properties that we have that are not occupied. We're still waiting on somebody to apply, and it'll go and tell me, "Hey, is anything else been listed? Has anything that was out there when we did our review two days ago? Has anything closed? Can we figure out, you know, what price it rented for? Sometimes it can, sometimes it can't, but it'll provide me a report every two days, automated, in my inbox for me to be able to look at on that. So it's really nice.   Keith Weinhold  38:51   Wow, this could be hugely useful. Yeah, or imagine on the flip side of that, if AI detects that there are a lot of vacancies in your area that, hey, you probably don't want to get so aggressive with rent increases. In that case, was there any last way that you're using AI in real estate? Maybe something I didn't think about asking you, Aundrea.   Aundrea Newbern  39:10   If we talk about long-term rentals, not as much. I think you kind of hit on the main things that we're using it for right now, but if we look at vacation rentals, it is doing a lot more there, I think, at the moment than it is long term. So, for example, pricing - we have dynamic pricing that we use for all of our vacation rentals, and the dynamic pricing isn't perfect, so somebody still has to physically go in and make sure no tweaks need to be made, that there's nothing weird going on in the software. I now have an AI agent that, that is their number one job. They go in once a day, they review all of our pricing. They let me know whether we need to adjust it up, down, change our minimum days, maximum days, and we make the adjustments. We're training it now to actually do those for us, but we haven't let it do it yet, so we're still waiting there. It's still waiting on its approval for me to do that, but things such as pricing, things such as going through and analyzing guest feedback, or guest. First tone, even in messages, it's providing me reports on that daily, so I can help identify problems that are maybe small problems before they become big.   Keith Weinhold  40:07   It makes sense that it would be more applicable in short-term rentals with all the turnover that you have there. Well, Andrea, let us know if there's a way for our followers to keep up with you and what you're doing, because people still ask about you here. You're so well liked. Let us know.   Aundrea Newbern  40:26   Yeah, so there's a couple of ways. If you're wanting to kind of see what we're doing with property management or our company, you can go to goldenaislesretreats.com There's also for a way for you to get in touch with me there. You can also check me out on LinkedIn or on Facebook, so I'm there as well, and I'd be happy to connect with anybody. I miss our listeners.   Keith Weinhold  40:43   Oh, Andrea, it's been valuable. It's been great having you back.   Aundrea Newbern  40:46   Thank you, Keith.   Keith Weinhold  40:53   Yeah, great to hear from Aundrea again on the show. It has been a few years. If you use professional management like I do, they will most likely be applying AI in a lot of the ways that we discussed. Coming up on the show soon, a life coach that's had a profound effect on a number of guests that we've hosted here on the show over the years. He has agreed to join us. He doesn't do a lot of appearances like this, so it'll be great. We'll hear directly from Daniel Thomas Hind, and how he transforms the lives of so many business people and investors professionally, physically, and mentally. I'm confident that it's going to help you get more out of life too. Until next week, I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 1  41:45   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss, the host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.    Keith Weinhold  42:13   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, getricheducation.com.

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Keith welcomes back Rich Dad author Robert Kiyosaki to discuss why debt, inflation, and financial education are critical in today's economy.  Robert challenges traditional advice like "save money and pay off your house," explaining how understanding good debt and owning real assets can accelerate wealth while inflation quietly punishes savers.  They explore how family background and early beliefs shape our money mindset, and why questioning conventional wisdom is essential.  The conversation ultimately stresses that financial education only matters if you take action and intentionally position yourself for turbulent times instead of fearing them. 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Go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com and sign up before Spots Fill    Keith Weinhold  1:41   Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment, through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at Flock homes.com/gre That's F L O C K homes.com/gre   Corey Coates  2:14   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:30   Welcome to GRE from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, to Williams, Arizona, and across 188 nations worldwide. You're inside one of America's longest running and most listened to real estate shows, this is Get Rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. And with Father's Day this month, it's apropos to talk about Rich Dad. It's been said that the objective of parenting is to turn a liability into an asset. The book Rich Dad Poor Dad has now sold over 40 million copies, and it's been translated into 51 languages. One strong thesis in the book: well, there are a few of them: the rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I think any regular listener here to the GRE podcast is already initiated on this. Savers or losers, because inflation debases your prosperity, and your house is not an asset, because it takes money out of your pocket every month. An asset puts money in your pocket every month instead. And I can see Robert now as he's preparing to take the mic with me here, he's got a blown up visual of his cash flow board game behind him, and then in front of him he's got a few books, including two books that he co-authored with Donald Trump, but this is before Trump was ever a political candidate, so it was before all that, and we're certainly not here to talk politics today. A central theme of the Rich Dad world is that the path for your significant financial betterment is rather than cutting your expenses, increase your income. This is the root action behind the mantra: don't live below your means, grow your means, but see, living below your means is easier. That's the easy thing to do. It's even myopic, say move into a lesser housing situation, or cut out going on vacations. Growing your means takes some education, like how to start a business, or how to own real estate. See, when you deposit money into a bank, all of a sudden that bank has a problem, they owe you interest on it, it's an expense for them. So the bank's job is now to lend your money out to somebody else and make a higher interest rate on it than. Lower interest rate that they're paying you on your deposit. All right. Well, then one direction to focus your education is to start acting like a bank yourself. How do you practically do that? How do you be the bank? Well, just like the bank, you can borrow real estate at a 7% mortgage rate. Now you've got the problem, you've got a monthly mortgage payment you need to make, so you need to beat 7% How are you going to do that? You better get it right. Well, with tax deductions, you might really be paying five to 6% Meanwhile, the real estate that you've carefully identified and invested in with your borrowed capital can earn multiples more without taking high risk, and actually that five to 6% effective cost of capital that you've got is zero, because that monthly payment is all outsourced to your tenants anyway, and what made all this possible for you? Debt made it possible, and now you're acting like the bank, and banks often have the tallest skyscrapers in your city for a reason, because they make money on those spreads all over the place, and now you're doing the same thing. This is an example of growing your means. The bank will hand you 500k to buy a new home or rental property, not for stocks. They won't do that for crypto, not for your 401k not for a business idea that popped into your head at 3am Only real estate, the same institutions, banks that manage your savings and study every asset class, and are very conservative, and have armies and armies of analysts. They will only lend you a half million dollars for one thing: real estate. For a few years, I was a writer for the Rich Dad Advisors blog when that was a thing. Robert and I were most recently together publicly last year when we both served as faculty members on the Terrific Real Estate Guys Investor Summit at Sea in the Caribbean. Let's talk to Robert.    Keith Weinhold  7:18   I'd like to welcome back to the show for his fifth appearance here on the GRE podcast. Well, just the number one selling personal finance author of all time. He wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad in 1997 and has ruled the Rich Dad world ever since. It's a warm get worse education. Welcome back to Robert Kiyosaki.   Robert Kiyosaki  7:38   Thank you, Keith. You know, nobody's more surprised about the success of Rich Dad Poor Dad than me, because it was turned down by every publisher in New York. It was like Simon and Schuster and all these guys, and they said, Why are you turning it down? They said, You don't know what you're talking about. It was consensus about the five editors of different book companies was what you're saying doesn't make sense, that's how strange it was back 1997 and now it's the number one in the world.   Keith Weinhold  8:10   This is often how it is when something strikes someone differently, like the Star Wars movies had difficulty getting traction because it was so unusual, and fortunately, Robert, today the consensus among readers has seen that, oh my gosh, Rich Dad Poor Dad changed my thinking more than anything else. The contrarian thinker,   Robert Kiyosaki  8:34   you know, strike Rich Dad, Poor Dad. My poor dad was academic, you know, PhD, yeah. So he'd be the kind of guy that says your book makes no sense, whereas my rich dad never went to school because his father died when he was 13 and he had to take over the family business. So much of a young person's life is predicated upon their parents or where the family or the culture you come from, and I've been studying more of that, like let's say I was raised in Alabama, I'd have a southern accent but because of the environment it presents it upon you, as the same as money, if a child is born into a poor family, or in my case an academic family, the value systems are all different. My family, and it's still true today. Got to go to school, get a job, and get a pension with the government. That's their whole belief system, and they're so proud of this. Is my brothers and uncles, and all that. They're so proud when their child has what's called a GS, and a government service pension, that's the whole idea on finance, get that pension, job security,   Keith Weinhold  9:49   yeah,   Speaker 1  9:49   nothing wrong with it, nothing wrong with it, but a lot of times we can't hear something because of what's been compressed into us by our culture, our. Family, so my, you know, my poor dad was always, you have to get your PhD, or what? God got a PhD. So my brothers and sisters, their kids are all getting their PhDs. It's fascinating. It's fascinating.   Keith Weinhold  10:14   Yeah, when your poor dad tells you you need to get your PhD, and you're asking for what? Maybe the answer was for him. So our parents, yes, they're often our first teachers.   Speaker 2  10:25   It's just values, very different values. And the more I kind of study it, I don't think I'm a good student of it, but there's this thing called a paradigm matrix, and a paradigm matrix is what is like a cookie cutter, so like father, like son, you know, like mother, like daughter, so much of our lives are transferred by our parents and our schools and things like this, and so that's why Rich Dad Poor Dad, for some people it works, but when it first came out, 1997 as you said, it was strange. I said, you know, the savers were losers, and today everybody knows inflation is going to the roof. I said, your house is not an asset. I got hammered for that one.   Keith Weinhold  11:11   Right.   Speaker 1  11:11   Rich don't work for money. Those are my three rich dad rules. Rich don't work for money, savers are losers, and your house is not an asset. I built Rich Dad Poor Dad around those three rules. I didn't follow my poor dad, those were his guiding lights. You know, you have to have job security, and you have to have a government pension, and my house is my biggest asset. And so you can't hear the person because you already have that paradigm magic, or that cookie cutter inside of you. This is my value system in my family. If I didn't get my PhD, I was stupid. I never got one. But anyway, you know,   Keith Weinhold  11:50   just because you believe something for a long time doesn't make it true,   Speaker 1  11:55   correct? And what's happening? Because I wrote Rich Dad Poor Dad, because I could see this economic times coming, 1971 named Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, and I knew at that time we're going to have hyperinflation, so that it hasn't hit us quite yet. 1971 was august 15. Nixon's taking the dollar off the gold standard, and you watch what's going to happen next few years. We're going to have hyperinflation that we've never seen before, and it's gonna make the poor and middle class poorer. The rich will get richer, but poor and middle class will get poorer. Tragically,   Keith Weinhold  12:30   that is such an appropriate time to bring this up, Robert, because a lot of people are drawing parallels between the 1970s two waves of inflation during that decade, and what's going on today. I mean, there is so much fuel now that could ignite higher inflation. You've got the cumulative effects of the Iran war and the energy shocks and bottled up supply chains. And Robert, I don't know if you've heard it yet, but you and I's mutual friend, Dr. Chris Martinson, yeah, peak prosperity, there, Chris Martinson, he recently said that he would not be surprised to see 18 to 20% annual inflation in the next two to three years. That's exactly what he said.   Speaker 2  13:12   Yeah, but it's good for those who have assets, right? You see what, when things inflate, you know, like chickens and eggs and milk go up, but so do assets go up, most of them, like gold and silver, will go up, but the purchasing of the dollar will come down. Inflation is a tax, that's all it is.   Keith Weinhold  13:33   So much potential for inflation there, and a lot of this really ties in with debt, about how debtors can be enriched inflation. I think about the cantillion effect, meaning that in inflationary times those closest to the money printer win, and that usually tends to be governments, large banks, corporations with easy credit scores, but a lot of people don't realize that we can benefit from that too is everyday investors that use leverage prudent debt,   Speaker 1  14:05   right, and tell you, in effect, is basically what interest rate can you get, and how easy is money for you, and I use debt, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt, and that scares the crap out of most people, but I use debt to get rich, and most people use debt to get poor, and again, that's family, what your education says. So, a lot has to do with early childhood development, and all that stuff. The more I study it, it really goes back to before a child was like 15. The cookie cutter has been cut.   Keith Weinhold  14:36   Yes, it goes back to not always having to believe everything that you think.   Speaker 2  14:40   We all have access to education. I have my cash flow game here. I teach people how to use debt, and Dave Ramsey says don't use debt. Well, he's a smart man too, Dave. I like him a lot, and most people should listen to Dave Ramsey, but if you're going to use debt, you'd better take some education, so. To go 1,000,000,002 in debt, man, you better know something. People aren't living paycheck to paycheck, they're living credit card to credit card now, and getting wiped out. I hate to laugh, but it's so obvious. You go, because they have no financial education, and that's why my book was turned down by all those academics in New York City, the publishers say, you don't know what you're talking about. How can I say your house is not an asset? How can I say savers are losers? How can I say the rich don't work for money? And that's what Don't Rich Dad Poor Dad on. And now it's been an international best seller, number one in the world for like 25 years.    Keith Weinhold  15:39   Yeah, well, it's so interesting that you bring up Dave Ramsey here, Robert. He often gets his followers to make a debt-free scream when they're debt free, and you know what I think, Robert, for those that scream that they're debt free, what they're doing is they're postponing screaming that they're job free or job optional, they could have been prudently leveraging dollars for profit, instead, like you and I do.   Speaker 2  16:06    Well, let me just say, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for most people. I'm saying, if you're going to learn to use debt, you know, if all you want is a job and a pension, you don't have to study that much. The biggest mistake I think ever made was at 401 k. It's going to wipe out boomer generation. It's going to.. that's the memos. I wrote this book. Here's who stole my pension, and that's when it's going to nail the boomers. They're finished, because their pensions are going to get stolen. They're four 1k IRAs. They're finished, but they do.. they listen. No, they go, they send their kids to school to get their MBA and get a, get a 401 k.   Keith Weinhold  16:46   Well, I kind of think when you have education around debt, you sort of understand this difference between productive debt and what I'll call ego debt. So, can you talk to us more about what kinds of debt make people rich today and what kinds of debt can quietly destroy them.   Speaker 2  17:02   Well, they should read Rich Dad Poor Dad. Really, I'm serious. That's all it is about, really, is I use debt to get rich, and Dave Ramsey's advice is good for those who don't want to study. So, if you're a PhD in microbiology, and you're a doctor, Dave Ramsey's advice is good for you, because you have no financial education, it's not between your right ear and your left ear. So, I had to study debt, that's the difference. It's what we study.   Keith Weinhold  17:29   And for those that are uninitiated on this, what we're talking about here is, if you've got, say, 200k to invest in real estate, and real estate's going to go up 5% a year. Okay, if you pay all cash, you only have a 5% gain on your 200k but if you get an 800k loan and now you invest in a million dollars worth of real estate, you have that entire million dollars going up 5% not just 200k and you have the tenants servicing the 800k in debt for you. This is really the path to wealth through debt, which is counterintuitive.   Speaker 1  18:02   You don't just get into debt. I mean, you really got to understand debt, and real estate doesn't always go up. It's about to crash again, and I like crashes. Don't get me wrong, I love crashes, because a crash in a stock market, bond market, real estate market is something going on sale, so like if Walmart had a sale, every poor person would run in there, but when the real estate market has a sale, all the poor people run away. I like crashes, that's when you get rich, one's coming big time, big time.   Keith Weinhold  18:33   Well, I want to learn more about that, because residential real estate in our lifetimes has only fallen significantly one time, that was in 2008 and circumstances are so different today. Today, you have responsible lending, and you don't have this oversupply that you had in 2008 So, tell us more about a potential real estate crash that's going to interest a lot of people.   Speaker 1  18:53   Well, real estate crashes, because the currency crashes. It's really the problem with the world today, and this is the whole world, is America is now what, the biggest debtor nation in world history.   Keith Weinhold  19:05   Yeah,   Speaker 1  19:05   39 trillion or something like that. And Japan is a bunch of idiots on Japanese, I can say that they save money. Why would you save money when Japan was the biggest money printer of all times? That'd be like somebody you know, sticking water in your gas tank. Why would you go and fill up with water? But that's what the Japanese were doing. They're saving money. It makes no sense. I mean, I just.. I'm just a different person, you know. I just didn't go to school like my family did. I mean, I have a college education and all that, but I studied different things after school. I studied debt, I studied real estate, and that's the big difference. So, I'm 1,000,000,002 in debt. So, in 2008 when the market crashed, you know, I borrowed 30 million bucks and leveled it up with 1,000,000,002 in debt.   Keith Weinhold  19:52   Good timing   Speaker 1  19:53   should not do what I do, but I studied it since 1974 It's debt that's not. Right now today we have oil going up. My college degree is in oil. I'm an oil tanker driver. I drove oil tankers with Standard Oil. I'm making fortunes today as the price of oil goes up, so you know, more Netanyahu and Trump bomb Iran, terrible as it is. I'm getting richer, so you don't have to be poor, but you're poor because that gap between your left ear and your right ear is empty, you know. You've been taught inflation's bad. Well, inflation is good if you're holding oil or gold or silver or some real estate. Anyway, most people have no financial education. That's why I created the cash flow board game, so you can have fun learning how to be rich. If you don't want to learn to be rich, then go to school and get your PhD.   Keith Weinhold  20:47   Sometimes, when people don't understand how real estate debt benefits them, one way I've helped people understand Robert is that, say, you have a loan balance of 112k on a piece of real estate today, that feels really small. It almost feels like something that you can pay off with what you have in your savings account, but if you go back 30 years, when the median home price is 140k 80% debt on that would have been 112k So here, 30 years later, with your 30 year fixed rate loan, you still just have that 112k in debt, while the median home price is over 400k and that's even if you hadn't made a principal payment at all, so it's really a way to visualize how inflation starts shrinking the real weight of our debt over time.   Speaker 1  21:31   My advice is I would study debt, so I take real estate courses, I'm always studying, I'm studying constantly, because the markets are changing so quickly. The biggest problem today started in 1971 when Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. So, we're the biggest detonation in world history. I think we're going into a depression right now. So, depression plus AI coming along is going to wipe out jobs. I'm going to get richer. What are you going to do? So, I'm already planning for the future, the people that get rich can see the future. So, when you say, well, you know, back in 2008 it only crashed for a little while. Then, okay, so what? And history has proven in 1971 Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard. Every nation has collapsed. Who did that? The Chinese did it, the Romans did it, the Greeks did it, Germans did it. They print money, and so that's the real issue. It's not debt, but it's also the economic macro problems that keep going into the world. The dollar is coming down, and I'm afraid that we're going into a global depression. I hope I'm wrong, like Grant Cardone, and I have fights all the time about it, you know, because he's a big proponent of that. Real estate always goes up, it doesn't always go up,   Keith Weinhold  22:47   right?   Speaker 1  22:47   It doesn't always go up. The stock market doesn't always go up. The bond market's crashing. Everybody says, "Oh, bonds are safe. The bond market's in the biggest bubble in world history. We're going into a depression. So, what are you going to do about it? I'm afraid America is going to crash because we've taken on Iran, and Iran's a powerful, powerful force out there. I'm not in favor of it, but everybody who's messed with Iran has got kicked. So just note that as this look at history, you can see the future, but you have to be careful in the issue you follow. So, 1971 I was on an aircraft carrier in Vietnam, and my rich dad wrote me a letter. I was a marine helicopter pilot, went down three times. Rich Dad wrote me lessons. Nixon took the dollar off the gold standard, watch out, and immediately I started buying gold. So, I started buying gold at $50 an ounce to today is what, four or 5000   Keith Weinhold  23:43   Yeah,   Speaker 1  23:44   the trouble with gold is you pay high taxes on it, constant taxes too. Good luck to learn, Keith. 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History will see this, you'll see the future. So, this is my good friend here, McDonald. You know why he wants you to get rich, and it's this one man, one message.   Keith Weinhold  26:06   Robert's holding up a book now.   Speaker 1  26:08   You've got to get educated on money, but most people won't, so they got a 401 k, and they live debt free. Good advice. Will it protect them? No, it won't protect them from a, you know, if you lose your job, AI takes it away, or is a massive crash, but we've never been in this much debt before to you. Black generation is screwed, boomers and boomers are screwed, because we're the first generation with a four 1k that was 1974 1974 also Kissinger went to Saudi Arabia to sign the dollar up back by oil, and today my buddy here, Trump is bombing the crap out of Iran. I'm not saying it's good or bad, but the price of oil is going through the roof now. Everybody's complaining about it because of inflation, so chicken and eggs go up in price, you know. Diesel delivers chicken and eggs all over the world. I'm getting richer because I own oil wells, you see. You don't have to be poor, but you better question what they put between your left ear and your right ear. What did Mommy and Daddy tell you? Go to school, get a job, get a job with a government service. My daughter's a GS, she's got a master's from Washington State University losers,   Keith Weinhold  27:24   this untethering of the dollar from gold in 1971 that meant that there is no sovereign currency in the world today that's still tied to gold, allowing for more money printing and enriching over time debtors like you and I, but Robert, we think about how debtors are profiting, and you spoke earlier about how oftentimes your parents put all of these values inside you. How do you emotionally tolerate having a lot of debt yourself? You talked about having $1.2 billion in debt. How do you emotionally deal with that?   Speaker 1  28:00   I study, I take courses. I'm constantly in seminars studying debt. I don't study a 401 ks or bonds, that's for losers. But this is the biggest point, Keith. You got to find out. My rich had always said to me, says there's a billion ways to financial heaven. So, there's what, 8 billion people on planet earth, and 1 billion of the eight may make it to financial heaven, but there's 7 billion to financial hell, and the difference is what's between your left ear and your right ear, and that's why you may choose what you learn carefully, cash flow game, study it, have fun, practice, play, learn, but if you don't want to learn, then follow Dave Ramsey's advice. That's much better. It's better for you, really. I'm serious. And get your PhD and get a 401 k and get wiped out when you lose your job. It's up to you.   Keith Weinhold  28:54   Yeah, I mean, the debt-free mindset probably is better for most people, but I think you shouldn't aspire to want to be like most people. Most people are overweight, and they have a busted relationship, and they don't have enough money at the end of the month. So we're really not aspiring to be mediocre here, and that can mean taking on prudent debt. You wrote something in a book one time, I don't think it was Rich Dad Poor Dad, it was one of your later books. This is so simple, but I found it to be so profound and life-changing for me. And that is simply being wealthy is a choice   Speaker 1  29:28   that doesn't, what you want, it's your choice, but you better know what your choices are. What did Mommy and Daddy say to you? But also, were they doing in front of you?   Keith Weinhold  29:39   Right,   Speaker 1  29:40   were they cleaning for job security or were they buying coil wells? Like, I own Bitcoin, but they'll recommend it now. I study it. I don't really understand it that well. I have 5049 Bitcoin, not much, but as inflation goes up, my Bitcoin goes up. Also, have in theory. I'm old. I don't understand tech that well, but I buy it to learn it, to practice, to study it. Am I an expert at Bitcoin? No. So I just keep studying, that's all I'm saying. I have a choice how to put between this year and that year. That's your choice today.   Keith Weinhold  30:18   Well, that's really interesting, Robert, because some people say that you should only invest in something that you understand well, others say that you're only going to understand something well if you invest a little in it first and have a stake. Well, is there any last thought that you have, Robert, as we wind up, anything at all that a listener should know today?   Speaker 1  30:39   No, I mean, I just said it, that's it. Choose what you put between your left brain and right ear, and what do you do? What do you do in your spare time? Like studying, you can ask the people around me. I'm constantly studying, you know, because I like to win. I'm very concerned, Keith. We're going into the biggest depression in history. So, what happens when you lose your job and you can't put food on the table, that's gonna create another problem. So, I'm a big pessimist, but I'm ready for it. I have a lot of guns, so the, I call it the 5g's Okay, you have to have gold, food, I mean ground, gasoline, and guns, that's preparing for the future, the 5g will be gold, gas, ground, food, guns.   Keith Weinhold  31:27   Well, Robert, you gave us a lot to think about there, including some actionable things. It's been great having you back on the show.   Speaker 1  31:32   Okay. Well, thank you. Keep up the good work.   Keith Weinhold  31:40   I believe Robert feels that a calming economic depression would be linked to the longer term calamity about the dollar being de-pegged from gold for about 55 years now. His 1.2 billion in debt is largely, if not completely, good debt. You can learn more about Robert and the Rich Dad world@richdad.com and he and I talked more off air. As much as he stresses financial education, he emphasizes taking action after you've learned; otherwise, you really haven't gained much of anything. But the rat race is so busy that some people don't have time to care about this stuff. In fact, the difference between financial education and financial courage is action taking. That's the difference. Now, in my view, it seems that some feel like financial betterment means cutting your expenses so much that you reduce your standard of living even over the long term, and doing that for the long term, you might do some of that in the short term, earlier in your investing career, because you need some capital formation, but to me, before long, financial betterment should give you the ability to make your life better. I mean, really don't buy the boat or RV just because it's a depreciating asset. Well, you don't want to do that wastefully if you can't afford it, but if you can learn how to afford it, consider borrowing for it, investing it at a higher interest rate than the RV loan, and profiting while you enjoy the RV, some people don't even think something like that is possible. Well, that's the sort of thing financial education can do. Genuine financial betterment means that you can take the trip, it means that you can buy the boat, because what's worse, owning a depreciating asset or living a depreciating life. Big thanks to Robert Kiyosaki.    Keith Weinhold  33:47   Today, we've got a lot of great upcoming shows here on the Get Rich Education podcast. Next week, The Mad Scientist of Multifamily, Neil Bower, will be here. It's going to be a charged conversation on the state and the future of the residential real estate market. Also, I've been compiling my top 12 dirty dozen due diligence questions that are going to help you avoid mistakes when you buy a piece of income property, like for example, How do you be sure that a build to rent community isn't overbuilt with supply, and why you should always get a property inspection, even on a new construction property that's coming in future weeks, and if you're a new listener and still learning about how to prudently use debt to build wealth, you're in luck. Just eight weeks ago, on episode 600 it's an episode where it's just me talking to you, called Debt is the American dream. Be sure to check out that show until next week. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. In In the Spirit of Rich Dad, don't quit your daydream.   Speaker 3  34:52   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business. Professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of Get Rich Education LLC exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  35:18   The preceding program was brought to you by Your Home for Wealth Building, Get Rich education.com  

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Register here to attend the live virtual event "Why Investors Are Targeting Oklahoma Real Estate in 2026" on Thursday, May 27th at 8:00 PM Eastern Time. Keith explains how rent payments are starting to factor into credit scores, boosting accountability for tenants and strengthening landlords' position.  He introduces the "GRE Duck" to show how a plain long-term rental can quietly build wealth through several profit centers beyond visible cash flow. Keith also shares why he expects a new era of heightened inflation and how owning real assets with long-term fixed-rate debt can help investors stay ahead of it. Finally, Keith is joined by a GRE Investment Coach, Naresh Vissa, to highlight Oklahoma as an under-the-radar, business-friendly market that many investors see as a promising "next place" for cash-flowing rentals. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. The American consumer is in real trouble today, and persistent inflation is poised to make it worse. How should real estate investors adjust their strategy? Learn the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure. Why making an early mortgage payoff is almost always ill-advised, then we explore an investment market that's poised for potential today on Get Rich Education.    Keith Weinhold  0:32   You know, Mid South Homebuyers, that top Memphis turnkey provider, I learned that a secret weapon behind their explosive growth is more than just you buying their properties. It's an executive coach for nine years now. Their CEO, Terry Kerr, and his COO, Pat Nix, have worked privately with a coach who I've now learned from too, and he doesn't market himself online anywhere. After 12 years behind the scenes, that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind. If you're a hard-charging business owner or investor who wants to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, and professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. This is private one on one coaching for those willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, and better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. Now it's your turn. Go to danielthomashind.com H I N D, that's danielthomamashind.com and sign up before spots fill.   Keith Weinhold  1:45   Flock Homes helps multifamily owners exit the operator grind, whether it's your sixplex or a 50 unit apartment through a 721 exchange. This defers your capital gains tax. It's a strategy long used by institutions. Now you can swap tenants and toilets for passive income and zero management. Request your initial valuations. See if your property qualifies at Flock homes.com/gre that's F L O C K homes.com/gre   Corey Coates  2:18   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is Get Rich Education.   Keith Weinhold  2:34   Welcome to GRE from Arcadia, California to Arcade New York, and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. You're listening to Get Rich Education. Around here, we don't look at a house and see four walls, we see five profit centers quietly doing jumping jacks behind the drywall. At the same time, most people seem to think cash flow is something that you catch in a stream. Hey, well, Who's in trouble out there amidst persistent and rising inflation? Well, you know the answer, it's just another reflection of the K-shaped economy and the hollowing out of the middle class. Now we can look at how many Americans are missing their mortgage payments. The mortgage delinquency rate is historically between one and 2% That just means that's the proportion of borrowers that get seriously behind on their mortgage payments. That's the normal range over the long run. Today's figure is pretty low at 1.1% so on the low end of that historic one to 2% range. So homeowners are in good shape, but credit card and automobile loan delinquencies are now deeply concerning, and a lot of times these people can be your rent paying tenant for credit card delinquency. Back in 2022 the rate was 8% Now 13% of credit card users are seriously behind on their payments. How about automobile delinquency? Back in 2022 it was 3.6% Now it's 5.6% and then there's student loans. The proportion of seriously delinquent student loans is 10.3% That's the highest since 2020 So the average borrower entering student loan default is now fully 40 years old. Before the pandemic, it was just 36 and a half. Now, there's surprisingly few hard statistics on the exact average age at which Americans fully pay off student loans, but the best available evidence from a platform. Called the Education Data Initiative, it suggests that the typical borrower who successfully repays on a standard timeline finishes somewhere in their early to mid 40s, and a substantial share of borrowers still carry student debt into their 50s and even 60s, so the US student loan crisis is intensifying. How about your tenant in that rent payment? About one in eight renters are behind on their rent payments per the CFPB. Almost every tenant catches up. Some live a paycheck to paycheck timing game. The payment that renters are most likely to miss is for credit cards, and, like I just put the numbers to, they are more than twice as likely to miss a credit card payment than they are an automobile payment. To most tenants, losing the car would mean losing the job, so they'll make the car payment before the credit card payment, and eviction is catastrophic, so they don't want to face that. They'll make that rent payment before a credit card payment too. Alarmingly, half of American credit card users carry balances from month to month, fully half the average interest they're paying is 21 to 22% I mean, sheesh, if Luboo is in a collection of wildly overpriced Stanley tumblers that all look big enough, waste of money. Now, some debtors can tap home equity to pay their consumer debt, but a lot of them aren't homeowners, all right. So, what does this all mean for residential income property owners? Well, since 1980 rent increases have compounded at 3.9% annually, that's the number, so almost 4% rent growth since about the time that Ronald Reagan became president, but rent growth is currently lagging behind this, and I expect that rent hikes will continue to be pretty paltry for the next couple years. Inflation is stressing tenants' consumer purchases too much for them to deal with steep rent hikes. The median household income of a US renter is $55,000 Overall, it's $84,000 All right, so to be clear, that 84k household income is not for homeowners, it's 84k overall for every American household. The 55k number is just for renters. What all this means is that this coming higher wave of inflation from the Iran war, where you're now poised to potentially see the highest rate of inflation of your entire life occur in the next couple years is that when you're looking at adding rental property on your pro forma, you can see how the numbers would be with those historic 3.9% rent increases each year, but it's wiser to run your numbers with no rent increase at all, because higher inflation on all these consumer products means it's less likely that they can handle a rent hike   Keith Weinhold  8:25   In the mortgage world. What's the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure, anyway? Because some people use a couple of those terms interchangeably, but there is a difference. The timeline is that once you're 30 days late, that is delinquency, and this condition occurs the moment that a single payment is missed. And at this early stage, your bank still hopes that this is temporary, because the bank actually doesn't want to take back your property. They're not in the business to do that. They want you to be able to keep making your payments in general, because if a borrower keeps missing payments and a bank has to take possession of the property, well, then that bank has to pay legal fees and court costs, and even property taxes if they end up taking back the property. Yeah, the bank pays all of that if they have to take it all right, so that's 30 days. What about when a borrower gets to 90 days late on payments, where we're trending closer to the bank having to take back the property? Well, 90 days, that's the point at which we're in mortgage default. When a homeowner's 90 days late on payments, the lender kind of says to themselves that bank is saying, hey, this is serious, and they file what's called a notice of default with both the homeowner and the courts at the 120 day mark. This is pre foreclosure, right? So, after about four months or more of missed pay. Payments and state timelines vary. Texas is famously Formula One fast, really lender friendly, then, but timelines can drag on for one to three years in a bunch of northeastern states, Florida, Illinois and Ohio, so they're more borrower protective, and during Covid, this was overridden, and even fast states became slow. Beyond 120 days of non-payment, this is foreclosure, the legal seizure process. This is when the home sells that auction to the highest bidder. That's sort of like Sotheby's for distressed drywall, but if no bidder raises their paddle, well, then the property returns to the bank and becomes R E O. You've probably heard this term before, that stands for real estate owned, R E O. It also kind of means bank owned, and bank owned is the phrase that kind of makes more sense. That's what REO is, all right. Yes, this is when the bank becomes the home's reluctant landlord, and if the occupant has not left, the bank can formally file for eviction. Banks don't like being in this position, and they might sell the home cheaply. Why would they do that? Because, again, banks are not in the business of owning property, and they don't want to pay those holding costs, besides paying legal fees and court costs, and the banks now having to pay property tax because they do temporarily own that foreclosed upon property. Now they're also usually paying for maintenance, repairs, and insurance, a non-paying borrower like this can typically cost a lender 1000s per month. So this is the difference between delinquency, default, and foreclosure. But, like I said, we are at a time when mortgage delinquency rates are historically low. Instead, it's consumer debtors that are more likely to default today on things like their credit cards and their automobile loans. The takeaway for real estate investors here is that in today's inflationary times, renters are increasingly cost-burdened, rent increases are historically slow. That's sort of the bad news. And then the upside, the good news is it also means that tenants must delay home ownership and keep on renting from you, because as they struggle to pay these rising expenses, it's also harder and harder for them to form a down payment and go buy their own place, that's the real lesson with the parts of the economy where you see default trends today.    Keith Weinhold  12:52   Now, if you're an income property owner, like I am, you probably have mortgages with a bunch of different banks, lenders like I do. You've probably noticed more than once that various banks and mortgage servicers, a lot of times, they feature these early payoff tools, enticing you to pay your mortgage off ahead of time, before it goes its full 30 year term, or whatever your full loan duration is. I mean, a lot of banks love it when you try to pay off your own early. It's often good for them and bad for you. And there are a few reasons that banks do this. They reduce their default risk if a bank convinces you, the borrower, to aggressively pay down your principal. It also builds equity faster, and you become less likely to walk away, so it's safer for the bank during downturns. Say there's a borrower with a 300k property and a 50k loan balance, meaning it's mostly paid off. Oh, that's far less risky to the bank than one with a 300k property and a 200k loan balance, meaning that you have less equity in it. So banks value stability. Another reason that some banks want to roll out the red carpet to try to get you to pay off your mortgage early is because banks recycle capital. They don't simply hold every mortgage for 30 years. A lot of loans are sold to Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac, or they're bundled into mortgage-backed securities, or they're serviced for fees. So your originating bank, when they first made that loan with you, oh, they've already earned their origination fees and servicing income and cross-selling opportunities, so getting principal back from you sooner allows them to reissue new loans sooner, and see rising interest rate environments like we've been in lately that changes the incentives for banks too, because if current mortgage rates are higher than your old rate a. Wow, then banks really love getting your old low rate loan paid off. Just say, for example, you have a 3% mortgage that you got five years ago, and new mortgages today are 7% Oh, if you pay off or refinance the old loan, oh well, now the bank can redeploy that money into higher yielding loans. Now they can lend it out at today's 7% that is really valuable to them. So encouraging your payoff, that is often just some consumer service positioning and marketing. You'll see messaging like, hey, make extra payments, or hey, you can own your home faster if you make extra principal pay downs, that's sort of marketing psychology. Because emotionally, a lot of consumers, they're not thinking big, they still emotionally love debt freedom, because a lot of them don't even consider true financial freedom is something that's in the realm of possibility for them, so banks provide tools because customers oftentimes want them and like them. Regulators actually like this position too. It's positioned as responsible lending optics, and financially healthy borrowers are deemed to be safer customers, but a bank sure does not want delinquency or foreclosure from a wealth building perspective. Productive low-cost debt benefits you, the borrower, enormously.    Keith Weinhold  16:34   And on previous episodes, I've talked extensively about how making extra principal pay downs on your mortgage is a bad idea, and that's whether it's rental property or your own home, and you know, I'll bring a new example to this for you. It might feel good to pay off your mortgage faster. Your bank probably likes that, as I just explained, but feeling good doesn't build your wealth. Let's just take a 400k mortgage at a 6% mortgage rate. We'll keep it simple. With a 30 year loan, your payment is about 2400 monthly, so you'll pay 864k over the life of the loan. Well, instead, with a 15 year loan, your payment's 3376 and you'll pay just 608k over the life of the loan. So, by paying extra principal with the 15 year, you save about 255k in interest over the life of the loan, and that's it. Most people stop right there, and they think, oh well, then the 15 year paying down principal faster than that has got to be the smarter way, look, I can point to this on paper and show you, no, but with that extra about $1,000 per month of mortgage payment that you made by going with the 15 year, if instead you would have just invested that at an 8% return, you would have about 1.1 million more dollars in your pocket. Some people say they sleep better because their house is paid off, but I would rather sleep knowing that my money is growing faster than my debt is costing me. I only used 8% as a return, too. If your dollars were instead invested in a different vehicle, say in buy and hold income property. We know that it can be multiples higher than 8% and all the while, if we keep our own money and avoid making an early pay down, our cash is also going to remain more liquid than if we sunk it into the house, because houses make terrible banks. It is indeed rather myopic to make extra principal payments on a mortgage loan in most cases. In fact, somewhat related to this, coming up on a future show, I'm going to tell you about the biggest financial expense you will ever have in your life, it is not taxes, it's not housing, it's not interest charges, it's not inflation, it's not paying for children, and it's not health care. Most people have never heard of it. The biggest financial expense that you'll ever have in your life. I'll talk about that coming up in a future episode.    Keith Weinhold  19:23   Is today's American housing market a buyer's market or a seller's market? In fact, it's somewhat of a discussion that you can have. There's not a clear cut answer, because more so than usual, it depends on which region of the nation you're looking at. As we know, six months of available supply is a balanced market nationally. There's only 4.4 months of existing housing supply, but almost twice that much new housing supply. National median home values are only up about 1.1% year over year. And what's the future of the investment market? Good, I'm going to discuss this and more with a guest later today. I would like to seriously thank you for your listenership. GRE is a platform largely built on long form trust, podcast listeners, newsletters, coaching calls, and referrals, releasing a show 52 weeks a year for between 11 and 12 years now, and the show is delivered every week from me, a real human flesh and blood host with a pulse and sometimes a cowlick in my hair, really human stuff going on here. I say this because robot podcast hosts are becoming more common, though I still wouldn't say that robot hosts are widespread. Amazon's Alexa Plus now produces AI-generated podcasts featuring chats between two robot co-hosts, but here on GRE it's always been human delivered with no plans to change that promise, and speaking of human connection, I learned that a number of successful guests that you've heard here on the show, they've gotten counsel from a rather special executive coach that's really developed some of these people that you've heard on the show. This coach has helped people show up as the best version of themselves and build them into better leaders, better operators, and better men and women, just like you, I know there's a gap between who you are and who you could be. When someone points out that gap to you, that can be a motivator alone, and when you learn the steps to close that gap, you really start to fulfill your potential. It often takes a trained eye from the outside to get you on the right trajectory and build the sort of person that compounds and builds you closer to your optimal self and people of enormous success have a coach or mentor behind them. Steve Jobs did, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Taylor Swift does the accountability piece alone is often enough to elevate your performance. I just learned about this coach this year. This man has been the behind the scenes key to success for a number of not just real estate related pros and GRE guests, but other people too. And interestingly, he hasn't marketed himself online anywhere. Well, I got curious, I learned more about him and kind of tracked him down, and he and I had a great lunch in California together not long ago, and I have since learned from him after 12 years behind the scenes. Well, it was quite a successful lunch, because that coach is now making himself available exclusively for GRE listeners. His name is Daniel Thomas Hind, the number of people with life-changing testimonials from working with him is pretty remarkable. So, if you're a hard-charging business owner or investor, and you want to get in the best shape of your life, physically, mentally, or professionally, you can fill out an application for a free consult. It's private one on one coaching, if you're willing to go to uncommon lengths to achieve pretty uncommon results. Thanks to Daniel, we've all become better leaders, better operators, better men. It started by showing up for ourselves. If it sounds interesting to you, now it can be your turn. You might at least look into it, since it is close personal one on one coaching. He can only help a limited number of people. So, complete an application before spots fill. You can go to Daniel Thomas hind.com H I N D is how you spell his last name, that's Daniel Thomas hind.com More next, I'm Keith Weinhold. This is Get Rich Education.    Keith Weinhold  24:05   What if you got your mortgage loans the same place I get mine? You sure can at Ridge Lending Group, NMLS 42056 They provided GRE listeners with more loans than anyone, because Ridge specializes in investment property. They'll help you build a long-term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequal, and even chat directly with President Chaley Ridge. While it's on your mind, start at Ridge Lending group.com That's Ridge lendinggroup.com    Keith Weinhold  24:36   Let me ask you something: if you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals. A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom Family Investments offers Freedom Notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straight. Forward approach built on real assets, not speculation. In full disclosure, I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk, and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent on-time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedomfamilyinvestments.com to book a clarity call, or text family 266866 that's Family 266866    Keith Weinhold  25:38   This is Peak Prosperity's Chris Martinson, listen to Get Rich Education with Keith Weinhold and Don't Quit Your Daydream.   Keith Weinhold  25:52   For an in-house chat, I'd like to welcome back our head investment coach here at GRE. He has his MBA, but perhaps more importantly, he's an active real estate investor himself, and he spends his days helping GRE listeners cut through the noise and actually make smart real estate investing decisions, and this means helping you figure things out, like what market fits your goals, whether cash flow appreciation or even showing a tax law should be your priority, and how to think about financing and what properties, the exact properties pass the smell test, and maybe most importantly, helping investors like you avoid expensive mistakes. And yes, the coaching is free to GRE listeners at GRE Investment coach.com And basically, if the real estate world feels like Costco on a Saturday afternoon, he helps you find the free samples, find the exit, and get the good deals without getting run over by a shopping cart. It's time for you to share with the audience. Naresh Vissa.   Naresh Vissa  26:53   Thanks a lot, Keith, for having me back on the show. Always a pleasure to connect with our loyal GRE listeners and followers,   Keith Weinhold  27:01   a lot of loyal listeners, some that have listened to all 600 plus episodes, starting from back in 2014 and Naresh we continue to see income property builders provide incentives that we haven't seen in years. Tell us about it.   Naresh Vissa  27:19   We're at a key point in this real estate cycle, Keith, regarding incentives, because we had GRE, and I think investors will tell you this, not just through GRE, but maybe in their hometowns and their local markets, that they're seeing incentives that they've never seen before, and a major reason for this is understanding why these incentives are there in the first place. If we go back five years to 2021 we didn't really see any incentives in 2021 outside of maybe like one year of free property management, which isn't the most enticing incentive out there, but today we are seeing more incentives than we've seen, at least in my career as a real estate investor, which is not very long, it's only about 10 years, but in my career as a real estate investor, in my career as a real estate investment coach, and a major reason for that is because providers, we call them providers, we can call them local market builders, or specialists, or flippers, wholesalers - we'll just call them sellers - they want to offload inventory, they want to sell their homes as quickly as possible. And why is that? Because we're not in a 2021 environment anymore, where a property gets listed and within three hours the first offer comes in, and within 24 hours multiple offers are in, and within two days of property is sold. We're not in that environment anymore. There are a variety of factors about why we're not in that environment. Part of it is economy related, part of it we talked at length about Doge, and the government contracts that have been cut. I mean, we're talking about hundreds of billions of dollars that are worth of dollars that are no longer pumping into the US economy, and the many jobs associated with that. We're also talking about the artificial intelligence, so the tech industries for the last few years, have not necessarily downsized, but changed their job functions, or removed, just eliminated job functions entirely, and this has affected markets, not the entire United States, but it's certainly affected some markets that we operate in, Florida, certainly in Texas, you can look at Austin, Texas, for example, and see the impact that the artificial intelligence and AI has had in the sector there. There are just all sorts of reasons, and so this is why builders, they're not building as much. So there were five years ago what are called spec homes. And pre construction homes, pre construction homes are homes that are to be developed and they get buyers ahead of time and they don't build until they get a buyer and then they build and they complete the property. Pre construction homes are not being done anymore as compared to custom home. A custom home is when you have a buyer and the building has started, the buyer has paid a good portion of the building, and the property is complete. But in pre-construction, they haven't even broken ground, they haven't even gotten permits, and a lot of investors have been scared away from that, saying, Why get a home like that when I can just buy a spec home or a custom home. A spec home is a home where the builder just builds a property and they hope that a buyer is going to come after it's built, and the problem with that, as we're seeing today, this is why builders are trying to offload their inventory. It's because so many of these spec homes were built because these builders thought, oh, 2021 2022 those are such amazing years, but now in 2026 they built these homes, and there aren't buyers throughout the building process, they weren't able to get buyers, and there still aren't buyers available, so what do the builders want to do, they want to offer really, really enticing incentives, because it's very highly likely they took out some type of construction loan, and they took out some other type of loan, and they've got all this debt on the property. Builders are not landlords, builders build, they want to build something and sell it off. They do not want to hold on to it and let something just sit there, that builders make money by selling their property, so all these different reasons are why we're seeing incentives like we've never seen before. And to give you an example, instead of one year of property management, we're seeing two years of property management. Yeah, instead of closing cost credits, we're seeing builders and sellers in general actually pay money to buyers, so they close on a property. Let's say they, instead of a closing cost credit, you close on a property, they'll literally just wire you or overnight you a check for x amount of dollars, and this is not like $1,000 $2,000 We've had some investors get up to $50,000 mailed to them after closing on a property, so I think this is a really, really good time for investors to find deals. You brought up Costco earlier, I'm like the Costco finder, it's a really, really good time to find deals, because through networks like GRE we have access globally, not just mainland 48 states, not just United States, not just globally, whether it's teak timber parcels in South America or in Central America, or it's duplexes, quads, single family homes in mainland United States, we have access to these deals, to these incentives, whereas your average person, they're just reading some headline saying, oh, real estate is a bad investment right now, and home values are supposed to crash, and there's so many homes available for sale, and there's going to be this big crash, and and inflation is very high, which means interest rates are really high. That's like the general consensus, but that's what the mainstream news media is telling, and that's what's creating a consensus.   Keith Weinhold  33:29   That's what clicks and fear. Yes,   Naresh Vissa  33:31   that's where I say that there are GRE is here to find those diamonds in a rough to find those incentives to find those good deals to find those markets, just like even in the stock market, the stock market can be at all-time highs, but you can still find those diamonds in the rough that are good, high-quality companies. Maybe they're undervalued. There's always going to be some type of diamond in the rough. I don't think we've ever gone through a period in our lifetimes where it was like, oh, everything is going so well, and there's nothing to invest in. There's nothing we should just do nothing with our money. I don't think there's ever been a point. There's always in any asset class in any industry. So that's why I say right now I'm seeing incentives. That's how I began this conversation. I'm seeing incentives that I've never seen before, and I'm excited to share them with all of our GRE followers.   Keith Weinhold  34:24   Yes, there's never perfection in a market like a panacea, where everything is tuned in just right, and it's really not a buyer's market nationally, in a sense. Now it sort of feels that way, because in 2021 to 2022 we had such a frenzy and such a run up in such a seller's market that things have come somewhat back more into balance. We still have substantially less than six months of supply on a national basis, but yes, to your point, some people are really cashing in on. These incentives, and that's created a pickup in activity recently that you've seen with investors.   Naresh Vissa  35:07   I have absolutely seen a pickup in activity, and there could be.. I don't want to speak in absolutes.. there could be a variety of reasons for this. Number one is the stock market has consistently reached all-time highs for the past few weeks or so, and many people, they liquidated some of their portfolio, they liquidated some of those stocks, and said, all right, it's time to get into real estate. Another reason is, yes, you do see these headlines that are doom and gloom, next big crash, and there are some markets in Florida, for example, in Texas, for example, in the DMV area, DC metro area, Maryland, Virginia, and even in some parts of California, you do see a stagnation in home values, maybe even a decline in home values in some of these areas, but I bring them up because some areas where investors own are still thriving and doing really well, and many of those investors who we work with at GRE, they opted to 1031 and say, you know what, I had this property, it appreciated by 60% since I bought it, 60% 50% whatever it might be, and I want to cash out. Well, I don't want to necessarily cash out, but I want to sell in 1031 into an undervalued market, or a market where the homes have declined, or maybe it's an up and coming market. For those who don't know, 1031 is special tax favored strategy from the tax code that allows real estate investors to sell a property and to essentially replace it with a like kind property, and there's tax break, you don't have to pay a capital gains tax or anything on it. There's nothing like that with stocks. So, if you sell a stock, for example, you can't get a more expensive stock with that capital gain and avoid paying the capital gains tax. Unfortunately, you can't do that for stocks, but for real estate, you can. So, we've had several investors do that, where they, 1031 they said this market, it's taken off, maybe it could go down, who knows, but I'm selling at the peak, and I want to buy somewhere else, so that's what we help people do, that's what I help people do, I help them find those deals, those incentives, those markets that could be up and coming, or maybe that declined, and that's why still it makes a lot of sense to be on the lookout for those deals.   Keith Weinhold  37:47   Now, one such place is potentially the Oklahoma market. Last week here on the show, I had your co-host for an upcoming event with me, Richard, whom is an Oklahoma City provider, and we were sort of a phrase that I use, Naresh, is that next place, that next place, Oklahoma City, where the prices haven't run up, it's business friendly, and you do have these affordable prices, and you have landlord-friendly laws, potentially that next place where your dollar goes further, and as the Oklahoma City Thunder go deep in the playoffs, you know the nice thing about Oklahoma is that you can still buy real estate there without needing an NBA contract to afford it. In fact, we were spotlighting their $145,000 new build detached single family rental. Now it is tiny, and it comes with both LVP flooring and granite. I mean, it's something that sort of sounds like science fiction in Metro New York City and coastal California. I don't know if paying 145k would even give you permission to look at a house, but that's one opportunity that we've been talking about here. Niresh,   Naresh Vissa  39:03   let me talk a bit about Oklahoma, because this is a market that we haven't covered much. In fact, we, I would say, have never covered it in writing. It's not heavily featured throughout GRE's history. Yeah, it's not prominently featured on our website. This is a newer market, and I brought up the term up and coming, so I brought up the 1031 people are 1031 into up and coming markets. Oklahoma is an up and coming market. It's a very landlord friendly state, it's a very tax friendly state. The property taxes are significantly lower in Oklahoma, for example, compared to a Texas or a Florida, which are two very popular in real estate investment states. Investors go after Oklahoma is not quite as high, their home insurance isn't anywhere as high as a Florida, for example, but the best part. It is because of all these different factors. Oklahoma has a lot of industry, and we'll go into it this Thursday on our webinar. Go to GRE webinars.com to register, but Oklahoma, the tourism is getting up and running. The energy industry still has a very important part to play in this world's energy consumption, Oklahoma, it's got huge academic areas. You have Oklahoma University, you have Oklahoma State, you have a plethora of Tulsa has a very strong university there. You have medical schools there. Oklahoma is an underrated state. People don't think about Oklahoma when they think about what are the greatest states in America, or what state that I want to move to, but Oklahoma, I think, is that next up-and-coming state, because there's actually more stuff now. I brought up tourism, you brought up the Oklahoma City Thunder, they never had really any professional sports teams, what, 20 years ago,   Keith Weinhold  41:02   right?   Naresh Vissa  41:03   And the Thunder now are the best NBA teams. They have been the best, and I'm rooting for them. So this is all good. That's the Oklahoma City area, where the Thunder play, but, like I said, I brought up other markets, like Tulsa, where we have inventory, and there are a few others that we're going to cover, but mostly the best properties that we're going to cover on Thursday are in the Oklahoma City area, places within 45 minutes, 50 minutes from Oklahoma City. So, as you're watching the webinar and following the Oklahoma City Thunder, that should only kind of enhance as the team does better and as Oklahoma gets more publicity, and is on TV more, and you see all those nice stills on TV, and those shots, and ESPNs covering the city, that's all very good for real estate, and for publicity, and this is like an intangible reason to invest in Oklahoma that actually makes a very big difference. So, overall, Oklahoma is what I would call, like I said earlier, up and coming, the home values, because it's up and coming. You can't get $145,000 new construction property anywhere in the United States right now. When I say anywhere, there's a little bit of hyperbole there. If you look to some boondock towns and cities, yeah, you'll find them, but are they really good renters markets? Are they good appreciating markets? Well, in fact, the most of the state of Oklahoma is now, and definitely that Oklahoma City area is. So, I'm excited about this online special event we're having this Thursday, because, like I said, this is a new market, just like the team, I mean, so many fans are just new to Oklahoma, you know, like Oklahoma, like what's in Oklahoma. Well, attend our special event this Thursday, GRE webinars.com and we're going to get down to the nitty gritty of it. I think this is out of all the up and coming markets I've covered over the last 10 years, I think this is the best one, because the problems I had with some of these up and coming markets, like Memphis, for example, crime.. it's why are they up and coming? Why are the home value solo? Well, you know, crime was a major issue. There's no comparison between an Oklahoma City or a Tulsa and Memphis, for example, or a Baltimore. There's no comparison when it comes to esthetics, when it comes to newness, niceness, crime, homicides, no comparison. So, to me, this is a no-brainer. And I think investors should be really excited about this.   Keith Weinhold  43:32   There is anticipation for Thursday's live event, which you can enjoy from the comfort of your own home. You'll learn about real estate investing, you'll get to chat with Naresh and the co-host, Richard, that provides there. Ask any questions that you want to have answered in real time. The event name is why investors are targeting Oklahoma real estate this year. It is this Thursday night, the 20-eighth, 8pm Eastern, 5pm Pacific. Sign up is open@grewebinars.com It's free. Naresh, we all look forward to seeing you Thursday night. It was great having you here.   Naresh Vissa  44:06   Thanks a lot, Keith. Looking forward to seeing everybody.   Keith Weinhold  44:15   Yes, the Oklahoma City Thunder are the reigning NBA champions, and they've gone deep into playoffs again this season, but what you'll find more interesting about Oklahoma City's real estate investment market is that it's business friendly, still affordable population growth, job growth. There are still good deals. You don't need to have a venture capital exit just to put some rental property in your portfolio, and while those $145,000 properties are small detached cottages with LVP and granite, there are other single family rental and duplex styles, all new build, everything here is new construction, the. Like a nice looking 565k duplex in Edmond, Oklahoma. I'm looking at a photo of it right now. Edmund abuts right up against Oklahoma City. Between 2010 and 2020 it had whopping population growth of 16% That is not random. People vote with their moving trucks. Learn more about Oklahoma's growth in energy, aerospace, aviation, logistics, and tech, along with Oklahoma City's downtown revitalization. This creates the rent-paying tenants with stable incomes that we need at the event, the provider is even offering two years of free property management, and they handle all the tenant placement for you. Save your spot for Thursday now@grewebinars.com Our team will see you then. Next week, we'll have Rich Dad Poor Dad author Robert Kiyosaki back here on the show with us. We'll see you Thursday. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your daydream.   Unknown Speaker  46:08   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial, or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. 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