Making the Leap

After three years and over 150 episodes, we're saying goodbye to Making The Leap. In this final episode, we reflect on our journey, the lessons we've learned, and the incredible community that has joined us along the way. From the early days of discovering Christian education to the many inspiring guests we've had, this podcast has been a life-changing experience. While this chapter ends, the mission of supporting parents and Christian educators continues. Thank you for being a part of this journey!Don't forget to like, subscribe, and share your favorite episodes to keep the conversation going!Follow Making The Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In this episode of Making The Leap, we're back with Part 2 from the NRB (National Religious Broadcasters) Convention in Dallas, Texas! Join us for conversations with inspiring guests who are shaping the future of faith-based education and digital outreach.First, we talk with Abby Sexton from Christians Engaged to discuss her personal journey through homeschool, private school, and public education — and how her faith grew through it all. Abby also shares how Christians Engaged is equipping the next generation to pray, vote, and engage in civic life through a biblical worldview.Next, we talk with Tim Matthews, Principal of Covenant Journey Academy, about the rise of online Christian education. Tim shares how Covenant Journey Academy combines strong academics, faith-filled curriculum, and personalized support to help families succeed — whether they homeschool or need supplemental courses.Finally, we catch up with Jill Simonian from PragerU Kids, who explains how PragerU is helping parents teach American history, values, and biblical truth to kids in a fun and engaging way. Whether you're homeschooling, attending private school, or just want to counter what's being taught in public education, PragerU Kids offers free, high-quality resources for your family.This is a must-watch for parents, educators, and anyone passionate about the future of faith, education, and civic engagement in America.

Join us for a special episode of Making The Leap, recorded live from the National Religious Broadcasters Convention! We had the incredible opportunity to speak with inspiring leaders, content creators, and change-makers in Christian media. From discussing the impact of faith-driven education and parental rights to media innovation and cultural shifts, this episode is packed with insightful conversations.Special guests include Moms for America's Debbie Kraulidis on the power of engaged mothers, Daniel Cohen on faith-based media in Israel, and author Cecil Taylor on biblical parenting. Stay tuned for part two next week!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In this episode of Making The Leap, we reflect on the journey of Christian parenting, faith, and education. As we navigate challenges with our teenage daughter's Christian school experience, we openly discuss doubts, lessons learned, and the role of faith in raising independent, spiritually grounded children.Join us as we explore:✅ The struggles of Christian parenting✅ The impact of faith-based education✅ The importance of community in spiritual growth✅ Trusting God's plan despite uncertainty

In this episode of Making the Leap, Christine Stigall sits down with Angela Swain, Christian school mom and professor of music at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, to discuss faith, motherhood, and education. Angela shares her journey from music ministry to academia, her family's experience with Christian education, and how she navigated a cancer diagnosis while teaching her children. She also dives into the importance of mentoring women and cultivating a life of worship. This is an inspiring conversation for any parent, educator, or believer looking for encouragement - Making the Leap: Mom to Mom. 00:00 Introduction01:38 From Music to Ministry06:22 Navigating Big Life Changes10:09 Choosing the Right Education Path18:14 Homeschooling Through Hardship27:03 The Role of Women in Ministry32:44 Growing in Faith & Encouraging Others42:00 Worship as a LifestyleFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In this episode of Making the Leap, Chris and Christine Stigall sit down with Josh Mann, managing editor of The Lion, to explore how faith-based journalism is equipping parents with the truth about education, culture, and policy. From the rise of school choice to a landmark Supreme Court case on religious education, they discuss the key issues shaping the future. Plus, Josh shares exciting updates on The Lion's expansion into video, radio, and coverage in the heart of Washington D.C. Stay informed and don't miss this conversation!00:00 Introduction01:38 The Rise of School Choice03:19 The Origins of The Lion06:22 A News Source Parents Can Trust10:09 Faith & Education: The Truth About Church & State18:14 A Landmark Supreme Court Case27:03 The Lion Expands: More Ways to Stay Informed32:44 Stay Connected with The LionFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In this episode of Making the Leap, we sit down with Erika Donalds, founder and chairwoman of Optima Ed, to discuss the groundbreaking innovations reshaping education. From virtual reality classrooms to the benefits of school choice and dismantling outdated systems, Erika shares her journey as a reformer and advocate for parental empowerment.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Our annual deep-dive into the core of what the Herzog Foundation is really all about: growing Christian education and helping it thrive.   If you're a Christian school teacher, administrator, board member, donor, or simply interested in the nuts and bolts of what makes a successful school work as opposed to one that ultimately closes its doors - this is your show!  The Stigalls walk through the various training opportunities all over the country - totally free to you if you apply - that will give you the insights and the resources you need on multiple levels of Christian school operation and instruction.  This show is what is at the heart of the mission of the Herzog Foundation.  Share this episode with others you think would benefit from these impressive, and again - totally free opportunities to help your school grow! Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Chris and Christine take today's show through some of the headlines in education that caught their eye. A brand new member of Congress stopped by to read to some elementary school kids. But just who it was and what was read and who sponsored the event will drop your jaw. An undercover journalist poses as a mother trying to enroll her "trans" daughter in girls sports in a Dallas school district. Hear how the district flouts Texas' law banning it. And an update from a past guest of Making the Leap in southern California with an uplifting perspective on the fire-ravaged landscape. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Chris and Christine profiled the Mackey family back in 2023 who found themselves in very similar circumstances as the Stigalls.  They made a full leap from public education to homeschool in their personal lives.  The Herzog Foundation featured the Mackeys in our Instagram stories as well and you can still find them there.  Today's conversation - mom to mom - is a deep dive into the life of a Christian mother's personal growth and how it ultimately pushed her to change the way she led most of her life.  From parenting, to marriage, teaching her own kids, and exploring her own Christian walk - you'll love this special, candid conversation - Making the Leap: Mom to Mom. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Join us as we look back on a year of inspiring conversations and thought-provoking moments on Making the Leap. From creating a culture of giving to innovative educational models, hear highlights from our most impactful episodes of 2024. Featuring insightful clips with guests like Cyra Loman, Elizabeth Urbanowicz, and Tony Perkins, we explore topics like donor development, biblical worldviews, and the role of churches in education. Plus, reflections on the power of truth, the importance of parenting with intention, and personal stories of transformation. Start 2025 with us as we continue to inspire and learn together!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In this episode of Making the Leap, host Chris Stigall sits down with Roger Erdvig, author and director at Summit Ministries, to explore what it means to provide a truly biblically based Christian education. They discuss practical ways to evaluate Christian schools, integrate faith into every aspect of education, and navigate challenges like rapid school growth and cultural pressures. With insights for educators, parents, and anyone passionate about shaping a biblical worldview, this conversation highlights actionable strategies and valuable resources to enrich both classrooms and homes.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Off the top, Chris and Christine discuss the shocking news of a Wisconsin Christian school shooting this week. How in the world did a Christian school miss a troubled young woman like this? The Stigall explore why a lack of scrutiny and a "take all comers" policy of Christian schools may be a dangerous mistake. Then, it wasn't too long ago Pete Hegseth was a host on Fox News and had authored a book on his deep concerns about America's education system and how he and his wife have chosen to make aggressive moves in educating their blended family. In some cases, even removing them from certain private Christian education for falling just as short as public education. Now, Hegseth is considered a "highly controversial" pick for President-elect Trump's next Secretary of Defense. While the Stigalls don't debate his qualifications for his appointment, you'll get a good sense of who Hegseth is as a father.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Saint Mary's College, an all women's Catholic school not far from the University of Notre Dame is the lone female-only school left in the United States.  19-year-old sophomore Macy Gunnell who worked in the admissions office while taking classes at St. Mary's stumbled across something shocking in student recruitment literature.   The words "consistently live or identify as a woman" jarred the officer of St. Mary's College Republicans and Turning Point USA chapter.  That's when Macy sprung into action.  Hear the story of one bold, young woman's fight to preserve and protect her all-women's Catholic school and the lengths to which she went to eliminate "woke-ism" from her campus with the help of the local bishop, the media, and a lot of determination.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

We're trying a new feature here at Making the Leap.  The concept is simple.  Now that the Stigalls have "made the leap" to Christian education and have a better understanding of all that goes into the decision, Christine decided to talk with moms she knows who've also made the leap and how they arrived at the decision.  How is it working?  What would they do differently?  How is God moving in their family life.  We find the simplest way to reach others and encourage them in making the leap is to hear stories of others who've done it.  Once a month, we have a personal conversation - just "Mom 2 Mom." Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

This episode might reflect one of the biggest "leapers" we've ever featured. Both geographically and in terms of educating her kids. Stephanie Murray was a young mother in Boston whose husband's work to her to Park City, Utah. She began by placing her kids in a Montessori school, before pulling them to homeschool. The Murray family quickly realized the need for a Christian school in their back yard andthe interest many other families had in what she was doing. It led her to create Telos Christian, and interestingly families of multiple faith backgrounds began to pour in. But how do you navigate a Biblically based curriculum in a town with many families who don't share those views and values? It's another inspiring story of someone making a way for Christian education in an environment where none exists.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

It's no secret the presidential election of 2024 simply broke some people.  But what if it broke one of your kids' school teachers?  The Stigalls react to some headlines in the days and weeks surrounding this election.  They also unpack what seems to be an attempt by some "red states" and their governors and legislatures to re-introduce Scripture and discussions of faith in the public classroom which is leading to more feuds in court.  The bottom line?  If the culture and how it impacts your kids is your concern - it's probably time to have an honest conversation with yourself just as the Stigalls do in today's episode.  The only real fix to this starts in our own hearts and homes.  Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Are you a professional who thinks you don't have the time or resources to make a change in your child's education? One of the most impressive stories we've heard on the show is that of Constance Bradley. She began with a son in public school who was so bright he was simply left aside in the classroom. As the owner of her own real estate agency with a team of eight - Constance decided to homeschool her son and two other children. And she did it while keeping her agency running! But when her Oregon community took notice of what she was doing, she felt guided to partner with her church to create a community school for more families. In one year, Constance secured grant money, bought a building, and became director of Rogue Christian Academy which instantly welcomed hundreds of families looking for educational alternatives of their own. Hear how she did it, and the advice she gives you if you're feeling stuck or uninspired to "Make the Leap." But most important, how listening to God and being willing to evolve is critical to your child's ultimate success with learning. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Have you heard of RenewaNation?  They are an organization near and dear to our hearts.  They share many of the same objectives of our parent organization, The Herzog Foundation.  In addition to impacting schools with a Biblical worldview,  theirs expands into the church and the home as well. They say it is that three-stranded cord of church/school/home that, if properly aligned with a Biblical worldview can truly renew our nation.  Hear how one of their executive directors - Josh Mulvihill explains his organizational roll in specifically counseling families on best practices to keep your kids and family on the right path in a cultural storm.   From grandparents rolls to phones, politics and media - this is a great conversation to sharpen our focus!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

If you're a concerned parent about the state of your community's schools, odds are you've heard of Moms for Liberty. We're thrilled to welcome their podcast to the Herzog Podcast Network. They've played a big roll in the presidential election cycle, with candidates since the primaries attempting to court their support. They aren't a partisan group. They don't pledge to a particular party. But who are they? What are their goals? Is there a chapter in your neck of the woods? Jamie Tromba is one of the original chapter founders in the all-important swing county of Bucks, in the swing state of Pennsylvania and she explains how her chapter came to be and what they face in the fight to keep their kids' educations free from indoctrination. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

With a major, national election just around the corner, the Stigalls contemplate with their pastor, Dr. Ken Parker the role of the church and its leaders' in discussing civics, voting, and education with our school-aged kids and how they do or don't compliment our primary focus - Jesus, and the Word of God. Is your church speaking up about the issues of the day and advocating for your Christian walk through your week? Is your church leadership bold, or lukewarm? Christian schools thrive when they're inhabited by students and teachers who come from strong, truth telling churches. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Chris and Christine have a pretty cool job at the Herzog Foundation getting to talk to you every week on this podcast. But if you know anyone headed for college or is currently enrolled in, or about to finish their college education - you should let them know about THE coolest job inside our Herzog Foundation headquarters. Become a Herzog Ambassador! Today, you'll meet the diverse post-college grads who've joined our team to travel the country and introduce all the foundation has to offer those exploring Christian education. How did these men and women find their way here, who are they, and what do they think of their new job assignment?00:51 Sam Gonzalez06:45 Ian Foster11:49 Collin Bonnie17:01 Esther Rea22:31 Jaylynn Hall29:21 Madelyn Stout36:58 Jenna LarsonFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

We bring back a familiar voice to Making the Leap this week. Ginny Gentles - a senior fellow at Independent Women's Forum - has now joined with a fairly new D.C. based organization called the Defense of Freedom Institute where she serves as the Director of Education Freedom and Parental Rights. Ginny's mission is to push for more educational freedom at the national level and make parents aware across the country of not only options to public education, but also holding the public school teachers' unions accountable. In this episode, we discuss her agenda and the obvious need that exists for parents to have as many options available to them as possible for their kids' educations. Follow Ginny on X @GinnyGentles and at dfipolicy.orgFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Sometimes we hear churches find reasons why opening their doors to Christian schools or homeschool programs doesn't work for them. We've never heard of a church totally destroyed, only for the leadership to declare - "We must rebuild, and this time with a school!" That's the story of Victory Church in Bloomington, Illinois - home to Foundation Christian Academy. Hear from the executive pastor Jarrod Herald who shares how a 23,000 square foot church had to be completely leveled after a fire and what his father, the senior pastor of the church said God asked him to do in a dream when it was time to rebuild. And like everything, when God is in the plan - watch how He works in this story!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Join Chris and Christine this week as they talk with Joelle Fortin and Kelly Lyman, a dynamic pair of moms who have been working to create a pod school in southeast Pennsylvania. Joelle and Kelly share their experiences, success and strategies related to curriuculum and the day-to-day challenges they've encountered, relaying on faith and support from the families enrolled in their pod.Want to see how this story began over a year ago?  Jump back to Episode #33 of Making the Leap when this was something brand new on the heart of Joelle. Quite a change to today!  Reach out to Joelle on Instagram @fiveforleys or via email at pgapodlife@gmail.com Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

While there's never been a bigger selection and menu of Christian media options today, there's also never been a more aggressive push to silence those products. That's why the National Religious Broadcasters exist as an organization - to advocate for and defend Christian programming. President of the NRB, Troy Miller has invited the Stigalls to participate in producing Making the Leap from their annual convention and they will return next year with their colleagues from the Herzog Podcast Network and the Lion to formally join the NRB. In today's conversation we get a peek inside the battles Christian programmers sometimes fight to get their products to market for their audiences. The NRB has been in existence for over eighty years when radio was the primary media delivery system. Today, Christian media has expanded to network television, satellite and streaming radio and podcasts, publishing, and much more.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

The 47th Governor of Arkansas drops by to discuss how she championed school choice in her state. Don't miss it!Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Last week, Christine joined Emilie Lunt of "Heart and Soul Homeschool" to discuss the pioneering work of Bitterroot Heritage Academy. This week, the conversation continues as the Stigalls explore how a highly degreed professional educator and church administrator - Megan Gesler - weathered the highs and lows of bringing quality, Christian education to a small rural town in Montana.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In part three of this three-part series, the Stigalls interview this year's recipients of the 2024 Excellence In Christian Education Awards.  Hear why these exemplary teachers from all over the country have been nominated and ultimately chosen by the Herzog Foundation for the highest honor in Christian education in the country! Each will be recognized formally at the annual awards ceremony in Washington D.C.'s Museum of the Bible this September.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In part two of this three-part series, the Stigalls interview this year's recipients of the 2024 Excellence In Christian Education Awards.  Hear why these exemplary teachers from all over the country have been nominated and ultimately chosen by the Herzog Foundation for the highest honor in Christian education in the country! Each will be recognized formally at the annual awards ceremony in Washington D.C.'s Museum of the Bible this September.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

In part one of this three-part series, the Stigalls interview this year's recipients of the 2024 Excellence In Christian Education Awards. Hear why these exemplary teachers from all over the country have been nominated and ultimately chosen by the Herzog Foundation for the highest honor in Christian education in the country! Each will be recognized formally at the annual awards ceremony in Washington D.C.'s Museum of the Bible this September.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

If you're a parent, it's no secret the secular world is working overtime to drive a wedge in between you and members of your family. Chris and Julie Bennett have one of the most extraordinary stories of trying to listen and follow God's will for their lives while at the same time coming up against some of life's biggest challenges in their professional lives, in their health, and in their relationship with their kids. How do we as families hold it all together and keep "the main thing" the main thing? How do we battle loneliness, isolation and defeat from swallowing our kids? This was one of the Stigall's favorite conversations to date. It's fun, it's emotional, and it's thought provoking. Read more about the Bennetts' and their remarkable journey at fightforfamily.orgFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

What can Christian school do for a child struggling with mental health challenges?  Meet Janie Wilson - a young woman who convinced her parents before entering kindergarten she knew she needed Christian school.  But it was not without challenges.  Hear how she battled mentally, with parents somewhat new to walking in Christianity, and ultimately made a lifetime commitment to Christian education well into college and into adulthood.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Christine sits down with five recipients from last year's Teacher of the Year class to discuss where they are now twelve months after their honor and how their lives have changed since winning. Their stories continue to inspire, but also demonstrate that even when you're awarded Christian education's highest honor - God may not keep you in the same place for long.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

The news of the attempted assassination of Donald Trump last Saturday got the Stigalls thinking about the different national tragedies that have befallen the United States over the years and who are our kids spending time with when they happen? How can we discuss these tough events with our kids and shield them from the ugliness? In addition, news this week of the explosive growth in alternative post K-12 education caught their attention and the governor of California signs legislation that should serve as a major concern for any parent with school-aged kids.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Dr. Allison Lassiter is one of the more interesting examples of someone whose life in education is one full of change. She's a community college professor who also homeschools but has also placed some of her kids in a classical Christian school. She's also willing to revaluate if it appears her kids' needs in learning change. As we know, every child learns differently so why do we try to teach them all the same way? Dr. Lassiter understood from an early age why learning for her was a struggle because her own mother was willing to make changes that ultimately shot her to the head of her class by graduation. If there's one thing we learn in this conversation it's that we need to shed the self-imposed handcuffs - even in Christian school settings - that we're locked in and scrap the notion that we can't change the way we're teaching our kids if it's not working.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Chris and Christine sit down with Jonathan Houpe and Nia Thompson Campbell, administrators of Harvest Christian School in Kansas City, Missouri. Jonathan and Nia discuss taking over leadership roles at an early age, as well as the trials and triumphs of working in Christian education.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

We've never met a couple with a background quite like the Oettels. In one conversation, you'll hear how a young couple became public school teachers - while first home-schooling their kids. They then started their own classical Christian school, followed by entering seminary, becoming a youth pastor and eventually an associate pastor. Then back to public school while sending their own children to a classical Christian school. Why all the change? With so many different perspectives from so many different venues - what did the Oettels learn? Which setting do they think best to learn and teach? How does Lacey navigate teaching in public school while her own kids aren't enrolled there while she yearns for her past in Christian education? What does Jon think about the Church's responsibility to open their doors to developing their own educational offering? If you take nothing else from this conversation, it's that keeping your eyes and ears open to the way the Lord moves in your family's lives can lead to big changes you can lean into rather than ignore.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

We hope you enjoyed the previous episode featuring the Stigalls on the set of Brave Books new children's TV show "Adventures with Iggy and Mr. Kirk." In this part-two episode you'll hear from another star of the show. She's a familiar name to many millions of kids who grew up watching Disney's Good Luck, Charlie - Leigh-Allyn Baker. Now, she shares with the Stigalls why she thinks Disney lost their way and why pouring her time into this new project with Brave Books is her professional passion. Writer and producer Eric Presley gives us a behind-the-scenes peek into the creative aspects of the show. And you'll meet one of the senior leaders of Brave Books, Zach Bell who explains their company mission in transforming media and literature for our kids' consumption. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

The Stigalls head to College Station, Texas to get a behind-the-scenes tour of Brave Books' new children's TV show hosted by Kirk Cameron. In part one of this two-part episode, you'll join the Stigalls on set for a one-on-one with the star of "Adventures with Iggy and Mr. Kirk." He discusses the importance of being a parent in a digital age and why, as successful entertainer and father of adult children who could be doing anything at this stage of his life instead works so hard to impact our nation's kids.Kids of the 80s - you can appreciate Chris and Christine getting a little geeked-out talking with one of the stars of a hit TV show from their formative years. But despite his star-power with some, Kirk is humble, kind, and passionate about our kids' futures. Find out how you can get involved and become a contributor to support the show at https://bravebooks.us/pages/the-adventures-with-iggy-and-mr-kirk#herzogfoundation #christianeducation #makingtheleap #podcast #kirkcameron #bravebooks #christiancontent #childrenseducation #childrenscontent #childrensentertainment #childrenstvFollow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Here's a topic we've never tackled on the show. Can Christians, specifically Christian schools lean into rapidly developing technology like A.I. or is it a dangerous place that runs counter to Biblical teaching? Dr. Seann Dikkers is both a Christian and a self-proclaimed homeschool dad and "tech guy" who reaches some interesting conclusions on the subject as he leads the Stigalls through the minefield of culture, big tech, and faith. He's created an online, K-12 curriculum called "Portals" that's a one stop shop for every day, in every subject to make homeschooling a breeze.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

What if your child asked "What is truth?" or "What does it mean to be human?" Those are deep questions and Elizabeth Urbanowicz - the founder of FoundationWorldview.com and host of "The Foundation Worldview" podcast says the answer is in her approach to helping parents instruct kids through Biblical strategies. For Christian parents, not only knowing what you believe but also knowing why you believe it is important. But it's also how you steer your kids to believe it as well in an increasingly secular and hostile world. It's a lot easier when you know where to start and Elizabeth tells the Stigalls how today. Don't forget to use the promo code "leap10" for a great discount at foundationworldview.com if you're headed there after this show! Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Bob Vander Plaats is perhaps the state of Iowa's biggest political "influencer."  As the President and CEO of The Family Leader, Bob is known as a cultural force for strengthening families and encouraging churches to get involved in government to impact real, legislative change.  Together he and Governor Kim Reynolds launched a strategic mission to target recalcitrant members of the Iowa legislature on advancing school choice and they won.  Today, Iowa is one of twelve states to pass sweeping school choice legislation allowing families across the state access to the education of their choice, no longer bound by a zipcode.  Hear Bob's inspiring personal story, and how he has led one of the most impactful cultural, spiritual, and legislative shifts in his state's recent history.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

We love meeting out-of-the-box problem solvers who see a need for their families and others' educations and take action. Meet the Dunns, founders of Acts Academy. With a background in business and teaching who, like so many bailed on their kids' public school during the pandemic and struck out on their own, the Dunns' story is a fun ride.Their success was rapid. Their creativity and solutions to growth are lessons for anyone who's thinking of starting their own Christian school in their community. You'll be inspired and we guarantee you'll get great ideas! Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

It's important from time to time to remember what your rights are as a taxpaying citizen in your public school district.  If you're someone who's yet to "make the leap" to a different education for your kids, or you're just a concerned citizen about the direction of the schools in your community - this is your show.  Ian Prior is a senior advisor at America First Legal and author of "Parents of the World Unite."  In a world of school boards run amok, Ian reminds us that you have every legal right and obligation to make your voice heard at school board meetings.  Further, school board members should answer to you, not to the school district's attorneys.  Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Chris and Christine depart into a news of the week show where they discuss the shocking story out of Montgomery County, Pennsylvania in the North Penn School District. Parents and citizens are outraged as a massive cover-up of a brutal attack is perpetuated by both media and their school board. Hear Chris interview one parent so upset she's ready to "make the leap" and an average citizen in the community with no children boldly stands up and speaks out at the local school board meeting. Plus, a discussion of the Biden administration's decision to re-write Title IX and an uplifting interview with actor, author, and now children's TV host Kirk Cameron. Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com.To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

It's not a surprise that Christian and conservative girls and young women find the outside world hostile to their point of view, particularly in higher education. Karin Lips founded the Network of Enlightened Women (enlightenedwomen.org) because she came up in college understanding traditional women felt driven underground, keeping their world view hidden from classroom discussion, clubs, and more. Read Karen's book "You're Not Alone - The Conservative Woman's Guide to College."Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

Christine was a public school teacher for ten years after she graduated from college.  As her faith grew and her priorities changed, she decided to stay home with her kids.  What she didn't know was a colleague of hers all those years ago was a quiet, but faithful Christian. As the culture became more charged and maintaining order in the classroom became more challenging, Lowell Messer knew his love of teaching was still in tact.  But his love of teaching in a public school was gone. Today, Lowell is here to discuss why he left public school and became a teacher and leader in a Christian school and gives advice to every teacher who might consider doing the same.Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.

The Herzog Foundation Podcast Network welcomes the newest member of the family!  Meet Emilie Lunt, host of "Heart and Soul Homeschool."  Emilie has an unrivaled passion to help parents - even before they become parents - think through what they want out of their children's educations.  If homeschooling has been on your heart, this new podcast is definitely for you!  In a busy career?  Wondering about spending morning, noon, and night with your kids, seven days a week?  What's that mean for your marriage?  Emilie is your biggest cheerleader as she encourages parents and their kids to start thinking "pre-Making the Leap."Follow Making the Leap on Facebook, Instagram, X, and YouTube. You can also sign-up for our newsletter or send us an email hello@makingtheleappodcast.com. To learn more about the Herzog Foundation, visit HerzogFoundation.com. Like and follow us on Facebook, X, and Instagram, or sign up to receive monthly email updates.