Ordinary Faith

None of us live free of difficulties or hardships. But how can we learn to live richly in the midst of them? And how can we ever grow spiritually because of them? The answer is found in the hopeful humanity of Jesus. In this conversation, pastor and author Kurt Willems reveals how understanding the humanity of Jesus can radically transform our identity and empower us to step into our pain-filled world in a new way. On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson—Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Kurt Willems—Website, Twitter, InstagramResources: Echoing Hope: How the Humanity of Jesus Redeems Our PainMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

After witnessing up close the moral failure of two of his friends—both pastors and co-workers at the time—Dave Willis knew that above anything else he might accomplish as a pastor, he wanted to guard and honor his marriage. That personal mission has since turned into an international ministry through which Dave and his wife, Ashley, provide support, encouragement, and resources for men and women to build healthy and God-honoring marriages. As part of the XO Marriage team, Dave and Ashley host the Naked Marriage Podcast, speak around the country and around the world at marriage events, and have written a number of books, articles, and blogs. Dave joins me on this episode to talk about wisdom and transparency, as well as his latest books, Naked and Healthy and Think Like Jesus.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson—Website, Twitter, InstagramGuests: Dave Willis—Website, InstagramResources: Think Like Jesus: Timeless Wisdom from ProverbsNaked and Healthy: Uncover the Lifestyle Your Mind, Body, Spirit, and Marriage NeedThe Naked Marriage PodcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

From the beginning, Scripture tells of a God who created the heavens and earth. It tells how he made the sea and land, the rosebud and beetle. But what might the heavens and earth tell us were we to listen to them? What wonders might the birds and flowers share? What might we discover of order, chaos, beauty, and unabashed grace? Hannah Anderson joins me on this episode and shares a glimpse of what it means to discover the kinds of spiritual and theological truths that are woven deep within the natural world. On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuests: Hannah Anderson - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources: Turning of Days: Lessons from Nature, Seasons, and SpiritMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Life for the Roper family has been surprising at every turn: a young man from inner-city Detroit called to pastor a church in Kentucky; an interracial marriage; becoming parents AND grandparents overnight through foster care. By living to be obedient to God in the small, ordinary things, Jimmie and Kayah have seen God do the extraordinary in their midst. On this episode, the Ropers share about what it means to be obedient to God’s call, even when you don’t feel qualified.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuests: Jimmie and Kayah Roper - Facebook, InstagramMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Attractions to the same sex. Unprocessed childhood trauma. Porn addiction. Matt and Laurie’s marriage seemed doomed. If marriage is primarily about attraction, it was. If marriage is a gospel picture, it absolutely wasn’t. Matt and Laurie Krieg join me on this episode of the Ordinary Faith Podcast to talk about struggle, faith, and the gospel that has freed them both to love. On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuests: Matt and Laurie KriegResources: Laurie Krieg (website)An Impossible Marriage: What Our Mixed-Orientation Marriage Has Taught Us About Love and the GospelHole In My Heart PodcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

In 2014, Kristy Cambron took a step of faith and left her career at a Fortune 500 company to pursue the art of storytelling. Now, seven years later, Kristy is a successful storyteller who writes from the space where art, history, and faith intersect. She’s an award-winning author of historical fiction, including her bestselling debut, The Butterfly and the Violin, and nonfiction, including the Verse Mapping series of Bibles and Bible studies. On this episode of the Ordinary Faith Podcast, Kristy joins me to talk about her love of stories and Scripture, and how to embrace faith in all life’s moments, big and small.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Kristy Cambron - Website, InstagramResources: Verse MappingMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

The generation born into evangelical purity culture has grown up, and many have started families of their own. But as time goes on, it's becoming more evident that many still struggle with purity culture's complicated legacy—its idolization of virginity, its mixed messages about modesty and lust, and its promise of a healthy marriage and great sex for those who follow the rules.Rachel Joy Welcher joins the Ordinary Faith Podcast to talk about her new book, Talking Back to Purity Culture, and to review the movement carefully, examining its teachings through the lens of Scripture. Compassionate, faithful, and wise, she charts a path forward for Christians in the ongoing debates about sexuality—one that rejects legalism and license alike, steering us back instead to the good news of Jesus. On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Rachel Joy Welcher - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources: Talking Back to Purity CultureMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

One simple prayer from his couch, followed by an emotional and spiritual realization that he is enough, led Jonathan Puddle on a journey of inner healing. Through Scripture, trauma-informed therapy, Christian inner-healing, breathing and embodiment exercises, and silent prayer & contemplative spirituality, Jonathan is now leading others on a holistic healing journey towards abundant life. Author, podcaster, and pastor Jonathan Puddle joins me to talk about what it means to learn to love ourselves like God loves us.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Jonathan Puddle - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources: You Are Enough: Learning to Love Yourself the Way God Love YouThe PuddcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Season 4 is here! After a six-month hiatus (Sabbath? Sabbatical?) the Ordinary Faith Podcast is back. In this short bonus episode Dan talks about why a break was necessary, things that have changed, and things we can look forward to in this new season. A special thank-you shoutout goes to the Patreon supporters of this podcast. Without your faithful support and encouragement, Season 4 would not be possible! Join the Patreon community today and help support this podcast.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

“Unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies it produces many seeds. Anyone who loves their life will lose it, but anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it.”We hear these words from Jesus and yet most of us are still terrified of death. The process of letting things go—even very good things—is not one we are comfortable with. Conversations during the last three weeks of the COVID-19 crisis have exemplified this as many Americans have begun to clamor for a return to “normal.” But what if there are are “normal” things that we need to let go of? What if the way forward is into something new, not resurrection something old?…and what does Harry Potter have to do with any of this?

Jenna Grace May is a worship leader and songwriter from Franklin, TN. She joins the Ordinary Faith Podcast to talk about worship, community, and the healing power of praise.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Jenna Grace May - Instagram, FacebookMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

In a time when shared suffering has never been more real, what comfort can we find in Holy Week? If the cross is the culmination and vindication of Jesus’ life and ministry, and if it was the focal point of the testimony of the New Testament writers, what does that mean for our lives today? As we walk through a week that is both historically and in the present affiliated with great loss and suffering, let’s learn together what it means to find mercy in our time of need.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources:The Every Day Bible PodcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

The COVID-19 crisis has changed life as we know it. Our cities and our schedules are stripped bare. The things that are left—the things that really matter—have now come into sharp focus. How can we find hope and wholeness in this time of social distancing and cultural upheaval? Seek first the Kingdom of God.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources: The Every Day Bible PodcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Don Everts has worked as an ordained pastor in the local church for over a decade, and before that worked for fourteen years on college campuses with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Whether in the church or on campus, Don has walked with folks who are not Christian as they discover the person of Jesus, and he has worked with Christians in being able to fruitfully do the same in their own relationships. His latest book, The Spiritually Vibrant Home, invites us to contemplate what the Bible says about households and consider what a new research project has revealed by pulling back the curtains on everyday households of faith.. . . . .On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Don Everts - TwitterResources:The Spiritually Vibrant Home, by Don EvertsLutheran Hour Ministries Online CoursesMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

After giving birth to her son, Kaylie Polk sensed God was preparing her for something new. She took a step of faith and left her dream job, not fully knowing what was in store. In the months since that decision, Kaylie has seen both the provision and the pleasure of God in and through the work of her hands. In her “soft abstract” style, Kaylie captures life’s moments, both the meaningful and the mundane, in worshipful, prophetic art.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Kaylie Polk - Designs of a DaughterMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Ashlee Leonard, a mother of four (two in foster care, and two biological), has always been passionate about helping families in need. From a young age, she felt a calling to support children and their parents through foster care, and she has lived out that calling through faithful obedience in a variety of ways. Now married with two kids of her own, Ashlee runs an online fashion boutique—Hopeful Home—and raises support and awareness for foster care across the country.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Ashlee Leonard - FacebookResources:- Hopeful Home- The Every Day Bible PodcastMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

After walking through a season filled with disappointment and discouragement, LaShawn Barber sensed God nudging her towards something new. Stepping out in faith, she left her accounting job of 20 years and began working in vocational ministry. While that step of obedience allowed her to discover and use her gifts and passions in new ways, it was not—and is not—without challenges. Being one of only a small handful of people of color in a Bible Belt megachurch has opened the door to new joys as well as fears.For more on this topic, see LaShawn’s curated list of resources below.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: LaShawn Barber - InstagramResources:The Third Option by Miles McPhersonBe the Bridge: Pursuing God's Heart for Racial Reconciliation by Latasha MorrisonI'm Still Here: Black Dignity in a World Made for Whiteness by Austin Channing BrownWhy I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo-Lodge (original article and book)NYT Article: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical ChurchesPBS American Experience Article: The Black ChurchScene On Radio - Season 2: Seeing WhiteNPR's Code SwitchJamie Ivey's The Happy Hour Podcast - Episode #265 with Latasha MorrisonMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

After a childhood that began with abuse and ended in abandonment, Esther Fleece Allen couldn’t imagine becoming anything more than an unloved, unwanted burden to others. Through the love, kindness, and generosity of others, however, she discovered a new life—and a new name—greater than anything she could have imagined. Esther joins me on this episode to talk about how we can get rid of the labels that limit us and about the importance of finding our identity and Christ.. . . . .On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Esther Fleece Allen - Twitter, InstagramResources: Your New Name: Saying Goodbye to the Labels that LimitMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

We all want to make sense of life, of who we are and why we are, and to know that what we do—day in and day out—matters. But the daily demands—work, eat, sleep, repeat—often lead to a life that feels void of meaning and disjointed from our deepest beliefs about faith, hope, and love. Steven Garber challenges us to move beyond our fragmented sense of reality and began to see all we are and all we do as significant to God and to what God is doing in the world. Once we discover that there is no chasm between heaven and earth we are able to understand the coherence of the work of God and of our lives in the world.On this episode, Steven joins me to talk about this seamless life—about recognizing the hand of God and the handiwork of God right in the middle of our ordinary lives. To see all of life as sacred. And to understand that it all matters.. . . . .On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Steven GarberResources: The Seamless Life: A Tapestry of Love & Learning, Worship & WorkMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

Mark Charles is a Native American activist, public speaker, consultant, journalist, and pastor. In May 2019 he announced that he would be running an independent candidate for President of the United States in the 2020 election, yet his candidacy is unlike any that I’ve ever seen. Instead of running on a platform of American exceptionalism, Mark is running on a platform of lament. Driven by his faith, compelled by justice, and longing for a return to foundational humanity, Mark’s desire is to see a nation where “We the People,” actually means all the people.On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Mark Charles - Website, Twitter, InstagramResources:Unsettling Truths: The Ongoing, Dehumanizing Legacy of the Doctrine of DiscoveryTedX Talk: We The People: The Three Most Misunderstood Words in US HistoryMark Charles 2020Music provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

One October day in 1995 changed Micah McElveen’s life forever. A teenager interested in little more than his own athletics and accolades at the time, he was suddenly forced to reckon with the fragility of life after a freak accident left him as a quadriplegic. Over the next few years, as Micah focused on healing and rehabilitation, God began shaping something even deeper in Micah’s heart. This reshaping and redeeming led ultimately to the foundation of a new organization, Vapor Ministries, that now serves hundreds of thousands of people in some of the poorest areas of the world.. . . . .On This EpisodeHost: Dan Jackson - Website, Twitter, InstagramGuest: Micah McElveenResources: Vapor Ministries - Website, Twitter, Facebook, InstagramMusic provided by: Łegacies - InstagramListener Support: Ordinary Faith on Patreon

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Jonathan Wilson-Hartgrove (MDiv, Duke Divinity School) is a writer, preacher, and moral activist who has spent years exploring how religious culture wars have misrepresented Christianity at the expense of the poor, and how listening to marginalized communities can help us hear God's call to love and justice in the world. In his latest book, A Revolution of Values, Jonathan highlights people on the frontlines of issues ranging from immigration policy and voting rights to women's rights and environmental stewardship. Through these narratives, we encounter a recovery of values that upholds the dignity of all people.Full show notes here —>

In 2012, Brian Carpenter, or Carp, as he’s known, did what relatively few people have accomplished: he thru-hiked the entire Appalachian Trail — all 2,200 miles of it. Carp felt a stirring towards both nature and challenge, and he followed that stirring to it’s almost illogical end. Quitting his job and leaving his wife behind, he spent nearly 6 months in the wilderness on a journey that would shape his life for years to come. Carp joins me on this episode of the Ordinary Faith Podcast to talk about God, nature, and coffee…in that order.Full show notes here —>

As Jojo Jackson entered college she appeared to have the world at her fingertips. A newfound love of Lindy Hop opened up a world of excitement and new experiences. But underneath the surface Jo was suffering in silence. Depression set in, an eating disorder took over, and Joanna — a successful, creative Cornell student — began to spin out of control. Jo’s story is one of mental illness, chaos, and even a suicide attempt. But it is also a story of faith, hope, and belonging. On this episode, Jojo shares with remarkable vulnerability about what it’s like to live with bipolar disorder, and how the simple things of faith are the things that keep her grounded.Full show notes here —>

Visit episode webpage & enter to win autographed copies of Dorena’s books, ColorFull, ThoughtFull, and GraceFull.Dorena Williamson is a proud mother, a passionate teacher, and a devoted bridge-builder. Together with her husband, Chris, she has been leading and loving a multicultural church community in Nashvillle, TN, for almost 25 years. Dorena’s three children’s books, ColorFull, GraceFull, and ThoughtFull, teach kids — and their adults — the values of diversity, hospitality, and generosity.Full show notes here —>

Trillia Newbell is an author and speaker whose writings on issues of faith, family, and diversity encourage people to pursue a deeper and more meaningful relationship with God. Trillia joins the Ordinary Faith podcast to talk about Sacred Endurance and challenges followers of Christ to find strength in Him as we “run the race set before us.”Full show notes here —>

Dan Jackson didn’t always plan on being a pastor. It was a love for music that opened the door to a love for the Church, which eventually led to a calling to vocational ministry. On this episode of the podcast, we take a departure from our normal format as Dan shares a piece of his own “ordinary faith” journey — including what could be the only bootlegged copies of some of Dan’s original music.Full show notes here —>

Mister Rogers was, in many ways, the voice of a generation, and his Neighborhood was the place so many of us called, “home.” For thousands — perhaps millions — of children, the 30 minutes spent each day in Mister Rogers’ Neighborhood were some of the most formational and memorable times of our childhood. Shea Tuttle’s new book, Exactly As You Are: The Life and Faith of Mister Rogers takes an in-depth look at the man behind the show and reveals how his own experiences and convictions cultivated what, for many, became the safest place in the world — or in Make Believe.Full show notes here —>

Terry Wardle knows brokenness. Growing up as part of a hard-scrabble family of coal miners full of hot tempers, harsh discipline, and all manner of attachment issues, Terry never felt like he measured up to anyone or anything. Plagued by a truckload of fear and anxiety, it’s little wonder he ended up in a psychiatric hospital before the age of forty. But God orchestrated an emotional and spiritual transformation in Terry’s life, placing him on a journey to profound peace and freedom.Full show notes here>>

Jeffrey Tacklind is the lead pastor at Church by the Sea in Laguna Beach, where he lives with his wife, Patty, and three kids, Gabe, Mia, and Lila. As a pastor and spiritual director, Jeff has come to discover that spiritual growth is never a linear process, but one that requires patience and perseverance. Jeff joins me on this episode to talk about his own “long obedience in the same direction,” and his new book, The Winding Path of Transformation.Full show notes here>>

As a teenager, Nicole Tarpoff struggled with issues of self-acceptance and body-positivity. Over time, however, she began to find her worth in the Lord and discovered beauty in her own reflection. Inspired by this gift of freedom and identity, Nicole began to craft a vision of helping other young women find the same sense of worth and hope. Mirrors are now her mission as she launched Reflect & co. to help women of all ages rediscover the imago Dei within themselves.Full show notes here>>

What happens when your family doubles in size almost overnight? Through their belief in the Gospel and their openness to foster care, the Duncan family grew from a close knit clan of six to a tribe of ten in a matter of months. Despite the challenges of living with open arms, the same heart of inclusion and redemption that caused this multiplication of children also led to a powerful mission on a university campus. The Duncan children now lead the charge for Buddies of the Bluegrass, an organization building relationships with men and women with special needs and raising money to assist families with special needs adoptions…Full show notes here>>

"Red beef and strong beer" was how C. S. Lewis described his education under one of his early tutors. It was, in other words, a substantial education that engaged deeply with the intellectual tradition and challenged him to grow. Gary Selby sees Lewis's expression as an indication of the kind of transformation that is both possible and necessary for the Christian faith. On this episode, Gary shares about the freedom that comes when we discover that spiritual formation comes about not by retreating from the physical world but through deeper engagement with it.Full show notes here>>

On September 15, 2018, 4-year-old Marco Shemwell was hit by a car after attending a University of Kentucky football game. Two days later he passed away from his injuries. Marco’s mom, Liz Shemwell, shares about her grief, the Marco Shemwell Foundation, and how the goodness of God shines hope even into life’s darkest moments...Full show notes here>>

Jen Pollock Michel is the award-winning author of Surprised by Paradox: The Promise of “And” in an Either-or World, Teach Us to Want, and Keeping Place. She writes widely for print and digital publications and travels to speak at churches, conferences, and retreats…Full show notes here >>

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I met the Normans while serving together in Haiti in 2018. I was immediately blown away by their grace and compassion, and by their unwavering desire to see the gospel proclaimed in any and every circumstance…Full show notes here>>

Casey Tygrett is the Theologian in Residence at Parkview Christian Church and host of the “otherWISE” podcast, a place for gathering wise conversations about living well on the journey with Jesus. Casey joins me on the episode to talk about his latest book, As I Recall, and the place that memories have in the spiritual life…Full show notes here>>

Daniel and Holly Graham are some of the most inspired and creative people I know. Their lives - everything from the way they parent to the ways in which they serve the Church - reflect a level of thoughtful awareness and contemplation that are all too rare. The result is art and life that reflect God in unique and beautiful ways. On this episode of the podcast, I sat down with Daniel and Holly to talk about just that: life, art, and faith in the grace that holds it all together…Full show notes here>>

Christine trained as a physician in Australia, practiced in New Zealand, and developed and directed the healthcare ministry for Mercy Ships. Her work on board the ship and in refugee camps around the world fueled her passion to see us all become instruments of God’s wholeness in our hurting world. Christine joins me on the podcast today to talk about the role awe and wonder have in the cultivation of our faith…Full show notes here>>

Adam L. Gustine leads CovEnterprises, a social enterprise initiative of Love Mercy, Do Justice, for the Evangelical Covenant Church. He is also the founder of Jubilee Ventures, an enterprise incubator in South Bend, Indiana dedicated to extending opportunity, restoration and ownership to the margins. Adam joins me on this episode of the podcast to talk about what it can look like when churches becomes communities that seek God’s shalom.Full show notes here>>

The rise of social media over the past two decades has allowed everyday patterns and behaviors to take a prominent place in our collective awareness. Among the myriad subjects that are now fair game for this constant stream of informal content, spiritual disciplines can be shared for all the world to see. Practices associated with Lent, which not so long ago would have been carried out in relative solitude, are now consistently present across every social network. On this episode of the podcast, we take a closer look at the season of Lent: the traditions, the symbols, and the significance of this pivotal time in the Church calendar.Full show notes here>>

After serving 20 years in the military, most of which he spent as an Army Ranger in the U.S. Special Forces where he led and supported teams of warriors on intense post-9/11 combat missions, Nick retired and began asking God the question, “What’s next?” After a few months of obedience and trusting in God’s faithfulness, Nick’s life came full circle. Now working as the Camp Director of Deerfoot Lodge Blue Ridge, Nick joins me to talk about what it means to live for something beyond ourselves, and the joys of finding God in the wildest places…Full show notes here>>

Life is hard. We’ve all experienced that reality in a hundred different ways. In his new book, Between Two Trees, Shane Wood frames our current struggles within the grand narrative of Scripture and offers a hope that is beyond anything many of us have dared to grasp. On this episode of the podcast, Shane joins me to talk about what it means to live life between the tree of life in Genesis’s Eden and the tree of healing in Revelation’s new creation, and to offer us a glimpse of the beauty, love, and restoration that is available to all of us, here and now…Full show notes here>>

By the age of 24, Tanner Hobbs had built a successful online coaching business; nevertheless she felt a gnawing sense in her spirit that something wasn’t quite right. In 2018, God spoke the word, “boldness,” into her life. Tanner was faithful to that and as a result she has seen God completely change the trajectory of her business and her relationships. On this episode, Tanner talks about Chasing Freedom and the next big thing to which God has called her.Full show notes here>>

Twenty years ago, Tim Thompson was riding into adulthood on the back of a garbage truck. But step by step, Tim and his wife, Heather, began to sense God calling them to something much larger than themselves. Today, after multiple trips to Haiti and many more to Uganda, the Thompsons have added two adopted children to their family and run a non-profit to help provide life-saving resources to thousands more across the globe.Full show notes here>>

In a day where politics and religion are often reduced to talking points and finger pointing, is it even possible to engage the conversation in meaningful ways? Sarah Steward Holland and Beth Silvers, co-hosts of the popular podcasts, Pantsuit Politics and The Nuanced Life, think so. With a combination of both grace and intellect that is too often absent in political discourse these days, Sarah and Beth have made it their mission to talk about meaningful things in meaningful ways, while still choosing gentleness and patience above all. On this episode of the Ordinary Faith Podcast, Sarah and Beth join me to talk about the ways faith and politics mirror and shape one another, and how their new book, I Think You’re Wrong (But I’m Listening), can give us all a framework from which we can enter the political landscape while keeping our relationships — and our sanity — in tact.Full show notes here>>

What role does faith play in justice and advocacy? In chasing justice for the world’s poor and underprivileged, both Scoggins Berg and Debbie Charalambakis found themselves drawn to the work of political advocacy. Their work with the ONE Campaign now helps provide life-saving measures to millions of people across the globe.Full show notes here>>

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