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We celebrate Palm Sunday, the triumphal entry of Jesus, with vibrant worship, waving palm branches and a powerful message from our guest pastor, Greg Yee, Superintendent of the PacNW Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church.
Chapters00:00Introduction and Background of Matt Nightingale02:05Understanding Identity and Early Realizations05:57Marriage and the Struggle with Sexual Orientation10:00Coming Out and the Journey of Acceptance14:01Reflections on Marriage and Family Life17:49Navigating Relationships with Children19:57Public Coming Out and Community Support22:15Coming Out and Its Impact25:02Navigating Relationships and Acceptance28:01The Evolution of Self-Acceptance29:58Finding Love During a Pandemic36:58Current Work and Spiritual JourneyIn this conversation, Matt Nightingale shares his journey of self-discovery as a gay man raised in a fundamentalist Christian environment. He discusses his early awareness of his sexual orientation, the complexities of marrying a woman while grappling with his identity, and the challenges of living a double life. Matt reflects on his experiences in reparative therapy, the impact of his coming out on his family, and the evolution of his relationships with his children and ex-wife. He emphasizes the importance of acceptance and understanding within the LGBTQ community and the Christian faith. In this conversation, Matt Nightingale shares his journey of coming out as gay, navigating the complexities of relationships, and evolving his understanding of faith and spirituality. He discusses the challenges he faced during his marriage, the acceptance he found within himself, and how he ultimately found love during the pandemic. Matt also talks about his current work in ministry and his passion for supporting others in their spiritual journeys, particularly those deconstructing conservative Christian beliefs.keywordsLGBTQ, coming out, marriage, spirituality, identity, acceptance, Christian community, advocacy, personal journey, family dynamics, coming out, LGBTQ+, self-acceptance, relationships, spirituality, ministry, love, personal growth, divorce, community supportBIOMatt Nightingale is a pastor, musician, speaker, writer, and spiritual director from San Francisco's North Bay Area. He is founder and executive director of Common Sanctuary, and co-pastor (along with his long-time best friend, Tony Gapastione) of The Quest.Matt's musical/creative exploits have included performing a solo show at the Tulsa Jazz Hall of Fame, singing the national anthem at two 49ers games and a stint with the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus. His song, “Always Entertaining Me (The La-La Song)” was featured in the hit Korean drama IRIS, and his song, “Going Home” was recorded by Broadway star and Emmy winner Loretta Devine and is featured on the soundtrack of the short film “Neighbor.”For seventeen years, Matt worked as a worship pastor in the Evangelical Covenant Church, serving churches in Redwood City, CA; Houston, TX; Tulsa, OK; Seattle, WA; and Santa Rosa, CA. He is a graduate of the Spiritual Director Formation Program at The Journey Center Association and a member of Spiritual Directors International.As a gay Christian, Matt is passionate about the intersection of sexuality and spirituality, and he works to create safe, sacred spaces for people exploring these identities. His TEDx talk, “Choosing Gratitude and Hope,” with his former wife, Luanne Nightingale, tells their story of a mixed-orientation marriage, an evolving understanding of faith and sexuality, and the choice to divorce with gratitude and hope.Matt is the husband of Alejandro and the father of four adult children: Joshua, Jacob, Emily and Zachary.CONTACT:Matt's website: http://www.mattnightingale.com. Matt is also @mattnightingale on Twitter, Bluesky, Instagram and FB.To contact Wilkinson: BecomingWilkinson@gmail.com
In this episode, Cindy Wu shares her journey of faith and service, exploring the intersection of cross-cultural work, hospitality, and justice. With a heart for the marginalized and a deep understanding of cross-cultural ministry, Cindy unpacks what it means to welcome the stranger and embody the love of Christ in tangible ways. Join us as we discuss her experiences, the lessons she's learned, and how we can all cultivate a spirit of hospitality and compassion in our daily lives.Cindy is also one of the retreat leaders for the 2025 Velvet Ashes Online Retreat! It isn't too late to register and access the amazing teaching and resources in this year's retreat. Learn more about the retreat here. Learn more about Velvet AshesFollow Velvet Ashes on Facebook or Instagram Featured music is "Daughters and Sons" by EineBlume. Check out more from them on iTunes or wherever you get music!We are grateful to Barnabas International for sponsoring this podcast! Barnabas is a member care organization that shepherds global workers and trains global shepherds. Learn more about them here.Rev. Cindy M. Wu is co-founder and Director of Diaspora Ministries of Mosaic Formation, a Christian non-profit she co-directs with her husband, David. Additionally, she mobilizes Christians to welcome refugees, a true passion of hers. As a “pastor to pastors,” her ministry focuses on serving the city and church at-large through community organizing, spiritual direction, leading workshops and retreats, and cross-cultural training.Cindy is author or co-author of books and articles on global Christian identity, religious demography, and refugee welcome (browse publications here). She also delves some into poetry.Cindy is based in Houston, TX, and is ordained to word and service with the Evangelical Covenant Church. She enjoys global cuisine, historical fiction, (short) triathlons, and thunderstorms.Connect with Cindy at cindymwu.com.
Rev. Carrion serves as Vice President of Church Planting and Leadership Development at Redeemer City to City in New York City and is the regional coach for church planting and development for the Evangelical Covenant Church. Rev. Michael Carrion, is the founding pastor, and now Bishop of The Promised Land Covenant Churches in the North and South Bronx, and the founding chairman and superintendent of the Bronx Academy of Promise K-8 Charter School. He also serves on the board of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition and is currently on the Mayor's Faith Sector Advisory Council.Support the show
Noah interviews Pastor Mike Carrion on ministry in the South Bronx, the importance of proximity, and the Way of Jesus as applied in America today. They have an in-depth conversation touching on the Church & politics, mass deportation, perspectives, and the lives being affected. You can listen to Pastor Mike's January 2025 sermon from the Evangelical Covenant Church's Midwinter Conference here. Rev. Dr. Michael Carrion serves as the Senior Pastor and General Overseer of the Promised Land Covenant Churches located in the North and South Bronx. He also serves as the founding Chairman and Superintendent of the Bronx Academy of Promise K-8 Charter School in the Mott Haven section of the South Bronx and the Regional Coach for Church Planting and Development for the East Coast Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church. Serves as the VP of Church Planting and Leadership Development at City To City, Michael has successfully planted several churches and charter schools across the South Bronx. He is a social justice activist, community organizer who has been nationally recognized for his work among the poor across the city. You can also watch the podcast episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/pUTqDFh08c8 Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Get a free month of Accountable2You keyword accountability: a2u.app/beyond (do not use “www”) Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak – includes exclusive access to email the show and request topics. Purchase Beyond the Battle and Needed Navigation by Noah Filipiak.
In this episode of Craft & Character, Steve Carter interviews author, minister, rapper, and stand-up comedian Jelani Greenidge about the use of humor in preaching. Jelani does an incredible job breaking down how to discover humor in the text, how to use humor effectively, and what humor brings to a sermon. Also, they spend time unpacking Jelani's latest book called Undercover Prophets that breaks down how to pursue stand-up comedy to talk about what matters most. BIO Jelani Greenidge is the missional storyteller for the Evangelical Covenant Church and ministers in and around Portland, Oregon, as a worship musician, cultural consultant, and stand-up comic. EPISODE LINKS Social - @jelanignatural https://jelani-greenidge.square.site Book: Undercover Prophets Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
In the episode of the Faith and Activism series, Abeer speaks with Dr. Beth Seversen about her research on Palestinian Christians young adults navigating discrimination and their resilience and sumud. In the extended conversation for our Patreon supporters, Beth also shares more about cultural sensitivity in activism. To access this extended conversation and others, consider supporting us on Patreon. Beth holds a PhD in Intercultural Studies from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. She has served as Associate Professor of Youth and Christian Ministries at North Park University and Director of Evangelism for the Evangelical Covenant Church. Currently, she serves on the Board of the American Society of Missiology and as Vice President and Associate Editor of the Great Commission Research Network and Journal. She is the author of Not Done Yet: Reaching and Keeping Unchurched Emerging Adults. If you enjoy our podcast, please consider becoming a Patreon monthly supporter at: https://www.patreon.com/AcrosstheDivide Follow Across the Divide on YouTube and Instagram @AcrosstheDividePodcast Across the Divide partners with Peace Catalyst International to amplify the pursuit of peace and explore the vital intersection of Christian faith and social justice in Palestine-Israel. Show Notes: Beth's book: https://www.amazon.com/Not-Done-Yet-Reaching-Unchurched/dp/0830841571 Beth's Publications: https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ZJtnGnoAAAAJ&hl=en You can learn more and register for the March gathering hosted by Telos at telosgroup.org/gathering2025
In this episode of the EntrePastors podcast, we're diving into the world of coaching within pastoral ministry with our special guest, Dr. Barbara Ettinger. As an ordained pastor and leader within the Evangelical Covenant Church, Barbara brings a wealth of experience from her 30 years in ministry and her innovative coaching initiatives.Dr. Ettinger emphasizes how coaching can empower individuals to find clarity and direction in their paths. She shares the distinctive skills that make effective coaches, such as asking powerful questions, active listening, and generating meaningful feedback. She also delves into the vital role that education and credentials play in coaching, while also addressing the balance between formal training and practical experience.We'll learn about Dr. Ettinger's journey, the coaching culture she's helping to establish within her denomination, and the resources and strategies that can make coaching more accessible and impactful, especially for pastors. Whether you're interested in becoming a coach or seeking pastoral coaching support, this episode is packed with valuable insights and practical advice. So tune in and discover how coaching can transform lives and ministries.Guest Info/Links:Email: coaching@covchurch.com Call to Action:Get our FREE EntrePastors Get Started Guidehttps://www.entrepastors.com/start
In this episode of The Biggest Table, I talk with David Swanson, pastor of New Community Covenant Church and author of the new book Plundered. We discuss the interconnections between racial and environmental injustice, the impact of politics, and the role of faith and community in addressing these issues. Swanson shares the importance of understanding community history, embracing diversity in worship, and practical measures for communal and individual transformation. Additionally, he explains the significance of Sabbath, belonging, and virtue in fostering justice and reconciliation, emphasizing the power of the table in facilitating these transformations.Connect with David Swanson: https://dwswanson.com/David is the founding pastor of New Community Covenant Church who lives with his family on the South Side of Chicago. He is the founder and CEO of New Community Outreach, a non-profit organization dedicated to healing community trauma through restorative practices. David is the author of Rediscipling the White Church: From Cheap Diversity to True Solidarity and Plundered: The Tangled Roots of Racial and Environmental Injustice. He is a former Director of Church Planting for the Evangelical Covenant Church and on most Tuesday mornings you'll find him wandering around Jackson Park looking for birds.This episode of the Biggest Table is brought to you in part by Wild Goose Coffee. Since 2008, Wild Goose has sought to build better communities through coffee. For our listeners, Wild Goose is offering a special promotion of 20% off a one time order using the code TABLE at checkout. To learn more and to order coffee, please visit wildgoosecoffee.com.
Tune in to hear Head of School, Dr. Mark Carleton, chat with author Curtis Chang. Presbyterian School was honored to host Curtis earlier this month for a parent ed event focused on his book, The Anxiety Opportunity. If you missed this parent ed event, tune in to our podcast to hear some of his thoughts. This episode is now live and available for download on our People of PS Podcast. A graduate of Harvard University and former Rockefeller Fellow, Curtis Chang bridges the worlds of secular institutions and theology. He is the founder and CEO of Consulting Within Reach (CWR), a firm serving nonprofits and government agencies. His consulting work has won an award in social innovation from the Obama White House, and he teaches strategic planning as a faculty member of American University's School of International Service. Curtis is also a consulting professor at Duke Divinity School and a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. Prior to his career in consulting, Curtis served as the senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in San Jose, California. He is the author of The After Party: Towards Better Christian Politics (with Nancy French), The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self, and Engaging Unbelief: A Captivating Strategy from Augustine and Aquinas. Learn more from Curtis on his Good Faith podcast where he discusses how Christian faith intersects with culture, law and politics.
Rev. Dr. Howard Burgoyne, Superintendent of the East Coast Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church shares with us this morning about the impact and grace that comes when God says yes or no.
/> ### MESSAGE NOTESRedeemer People | Our Affirmations | Week 2 | August 25, 2024Teacher: Dave Brown/> The centrality of the Word of God/> All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.2 Timothy 3:16-17 /> The Evangelical Covenant Church affirms the Holy Scriptures, the Old and New Testament, as the Word of God and the only perfect rule for faith, doctrine, and conduct. /> Where is it written?/> The necessity of new birth /> Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come:[a] The old has gone, the new is here!— 2 Corinthians 5:17/> A commitment to the whole mission of the church /> He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you?To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.—Micah 6:8 /> The church as a fellowship of believers /> They devoted themselves to the apostles' teaching and to fellowship, to the breaking of bread and to prayer.Acts 2:42 /> Compelling Christian Community /> Mission Friends /> A conscious dependence on the Holy Spirit /> An unconscious independence /> …you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.—Acts 1:8 /> The reality of freedom in Christ /> We major on the major and minor on the minors /> Covenanters have understood that God's Word is sovereign over every human interpretation of it, including their own. And understanding this, they have been free to allow for differences of opinion where the biblical record itself can be differently read.—Committee on Covenant DoctrineCovenant Affirmations
Psalm 8. Preacher: Brandi Kejr. Brandi serves as the office manager for the Midwest Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church and is a member of First Covenant Church of Omaha. FIND US ONLINE https://firstcovenantlincoln.org/ https://www.facebook.com/FirstCovLincoln/ https://www.youtube.com/@FirstCovLincoln/ WHO WE ARE We are disciples who make disciples. Join us Sunday at 9:00 am in person or online. Stay connected with our e-news at https://FirstCovLincoln.flocknote.com or text FirstCovLincoln to 84576.
Rusty Funk from World Vision came to share about God's work in the Democratic Republic of the Congo through World Vision and the Evangelical Covenant Church!
Send us a Text Message.The conversation with Curtis Chang focuses on his book and curriculum called The Afterparty, which aims to help Christians navigate political differences and maintain relationships. The Afterparty includes a small group curriculum, a book, and a worship album. The feedback on The Afterparty has been positive, with many people sharing stories of how it has helped them heal and reconcile relationships. The book emphasizes the importance of hope and humility in politics and encourages Christians to prioritize reconciliation over winning disputes. The conversation also addresses criticisms of the book, highlighting the focus on navigating politics rather than pushing a specific agenda. The conversation explores the concept of the after party, which is the vision of a better Christian politics that transcends partisan loyalties. It emphasizes the importance of growing in humility and hope, and how these qualities can bridge the divide between different political viewpoints. The conversation also discusses the dangers of the big sort, where people sort themselves into social circles based on their political beliefs, leading to polarization and extremism. The ultimate vision is centered around the return of the King, the event that will make all things right, and calls for humility and hope in the midst of our current political landscape.Listen to the Worship Songs discussed: https://slinky.to/TheKingdomOfJesusTPGBuy the book: The After Party: Toward Better Christian Politics (https://a.co/d/b7pcylp)Guest Bio:As a theologian, Curtis is on the faculty of Duke Divinity School and is a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. His ministry experience includes serving as a senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in California, a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, and engaging in racial reconciliation work in Soweto, South Africa. He has authored or contributed to numerous books, including Engaging Unbelief: A Captivating Strategy from Augustine and Aquinas (IVP). Curtis is the founding Executive Director of Redeeming Babel, a nonprofit that produces content to promote a reformation in how Christians engage the wider world. He also hosts the Good Faith podcast where he discusses how Christian faith intersects with culture, law, and politics. His Biblical insights are enriched by his own secular career, which includes founding a White House award winning nonprofit consulting firm and teaching strategic planning as a faculty at American University's School of International Service. Curtis graduated from Harvard University and is a former Rockefeller Fellow. Support the Show.To learn more about the show, contact our hosts, or recommend future guests, click on the links below: Website: https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/ Faithful Host: Josh@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Political Host: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Twitter: @FaithfulPolitik Instagram: faithful_politics Facebook: FaithfulPoliticsPodcast LinkedIn: faithfulpolitics Subscribe to our Substack: https://faithfulpolitics.substack.com/
Send me a text! I'd love to know what you're thinking!Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the authors of Church For Everyone: Building a Multi-Inclusive Community, explore the importance of multi-inclusivity in church leadership, the need to empower young people in decision-making, and the steps required to break down socio-economic and cultural barriers within our faith communities.THIS EPISODE'S HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE:Creating spaces and processes for the emerging generation to have voice and participate in decision-making within multi-inclusive churches is crucial.In the Evangelical Covenant Church, the 6-fold test for multi-ethnic ministry includes population, participation, and power as key aspects to consider.Efforts to create spaces for feedback and participation are a key step in promoting inclusion and diversity in churches.Efrem Smith emphasizes the need to intentionally hire diverse staff and involve the emerging generation in shaping the church's narrative.Dan Kreiss points out that long-standing churches with deep traditions face greater challenges and need intentional discomfort and leadership formation to create a multi-inclusive community.According to Efrem Smith and Dan Kreiss, the diverse and multi-ethnic nature of the younger generation is not reflected in many church contexts on Sunday mornings.Dan Kreiss points out that building relationships with those outside his predominantly Caucasian church is essential to foster inclusion and understanding.Efrem Smith underscores the need to eliminate excuses for young people to dismiss the church and to create a multi-inclusive community that reflects the diversity found in other aspects of their lives.God can use individuals of different generations to advance his kingdom, as demonstrated by the biblical stories of David, Esther, Abraham, and Josiah.The letters of Paul emphasize the importance of a multi-inclusive, Christ-centered community, reflecting the multicultural and intergenerational nature of the church.According to Dan Kreiss, starting the journey towards a multi-inclusive church involves intentional efforts to build relationships with diverse communities.Dan Kreiss encourages pastors to surround themselves with others in the community for support and accountability.Efrem Smith says the move from stigmatizing the younger generation to becoming friends and missionaries to them is essential.Navigating the tensions between different generations is part of maintaining an intergenerational and diverse church environment.RELEVANT RESOURCES AND LINKS:Efrem Smith:Mid-town ChurchInfluential Global MinistriesInstagram - @efrem.smithDan Kreiss:Roswell Presbyterian ChurchInstagram - @dan_kreissBooks mentioned:Church for Everyone, by Efrem Smith and Dan KreissRelated episodes:Called to Each Other, with Claude AlexanderMinistry Leadership in a Racialized Society, with David SwansonIdentity, Belonging, and Purpose, with Kara PowellDid you know Spiritual Life and Leadership has been named the #1 Spiritual Leadership Podcast by the Feedspot Podcasters Database? Check it out HERE!
Dr. Dennis Edwards (PhD in Biblical Studies from the Catholic University of America) serves as the Vice President for Church Relations and Dean of North Park Seminary in Chicago. He's an ordained minister in the Evangelical Covenant Church and is the author of several books including his recently released Humility Illuminated: The Biblical Path Back to Christian Character. Our conversation begins by talking about humility, church leadership, handling criticism as a pastor, those who have an eager desire for a platform or to be on stage, and then we discuss the book of Philemon, slavery in the Bible, and some issues surrounding the apostle Paul's view of slavery. Get a FREE one year supply of vitamin D plus 5 travel packs! https://www.drinkag1.com/TITR Subscribe today to the Pour Over Today! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-pour-over-today/id1583657464 Support Theology in the Raw through Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/theologyintheraw
Welcome to a special series on Unpacked, where we journey to the vibrant and resilient nation of Haiti. In this series, we have the privilege of hearing from inspiring individuals who have not only grown up in this beautiful country but have dedicated their lives to positively impacting their communities.Join us as we sit down with Elio, Jessica, and Dr. Manno, leaders born in Haiti (two still living there) each with a unique story and perspective on life in Haiti. They graciously share their personal experiences, offering a glimpse into the rich tapestry of Haitian culture, and emphasizing the immense joy that persists even in the face of challenging circumstances, including economic and political unrest.This week on Unpacked we are chatting with Dr. Manno. Dr. Manno in Haiti, a physician at Sante 2000 in Haut Limbe, Haiti. Dr. Manno specializes in diabetic care and works with the Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada. In this episode, we discuss Dr. Manno's life story, lessons and learnings along the way from growing up in Haiti to becoming a doctor. Dr. Manno is one of the wisest people, a good friend and has had a long-standing relationship with Evan for many years. Dr. Manno shares how he learned English, his journey to becoming a doctor and his mission to serve his community and dispel myths and misinformation about illness in Haiti. He calls this his life mission and ministry work. He asks deep questions about community and neighbourhood and challenges us to what we want to be remembered for. Don't miss this episode into the heart of Haiti and with our dear friend. LINKS-Donate + Support Haiti-Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada-Petite Anse Feeding Project Video (featuring Jessica)-More on Haiti: Dr. Manno's Episode part 1 and part 2-Unpacked Series - Shoulder to Shoulder-Unpacked Series - Everyday Enneagram-Unpacked Series - AdoptionSupport the showUnpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, and storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Support the showUnpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, and storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Instagram:@theunpackedpodFacebook: @theunpackedpodunpackedpod.caSupport the show*music by Bensound
Welcome to a special series on Unpacked, where we journey to the vibrant and resilient nation of Haiti. In this series, we have the privilege of hearing from inspiring individuals who have not only grown up in this beautiful country but have dedicated their lives to positively impacting their communities.Join us as we sit down with Elio, Jessica, and Dr. Manno, leaders born in Haiti (two still living there) each with a unique story and perspective on life in Haiti. They graciously share their personal experiences, offering a glimpse into the rich tapestry of Haitian culture, and emphasizing the immense joy that persists even in the face of challenging circumstances, including economic and political unrest.This week on Unpacked we are chatting with Elio Dortilus. Elio shares the story of losing his dad, a skilled carpenter and farmer, a man of wisdom and profound lessons. At 16, the passing of his father became a pivotal moment when quickly became the man of the house and sole provider. Struggling with depression and grief over the years he shares what it is like to deal with mental health in Haiti. Elio's pursuit of education took him from the streets of Haut Limbe to the University of Tennessee, Knoxville. Juggling work to fund his studies and support his sister, Elio emerged as a testament to resilience and determination. In this episode we hear Elio's perspective as a husband, father, medical supplier, researcher, and community leader, Elio reflects on the enduring lessons his father imparted—friendship, work ethic, and unwavering family care.Also!! Get ready for some laughs as Elio spills the tea on his marriage and dishes out dating advice. The Unpacked Team met Elio several years ago as a teenager and drummer (as well as a translator) when travelling to Haiti with the Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada. LINKS-Donate + Support Haiti-Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada-Petite Anse Feeding Project Video (featuring Jessica)-More on Haiti: Dr. Manno's Episode part 1 and part 2-Unpacked Series - Shoulder to Shoulder-Unpacked Series - Everyday Enneagram-Unpacked Series - AdoptionSupport the showUnpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, and storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Instagram:@theunpackedpodFacebook: @theunpackedpodunpackedpod.caSupport the show*music by Bensound
Noah has a conversation with Michelle Sanchez on the divisions (and attacks) that exist within the Church around doctrines relating to human sexuality and LGBTQ+/Same Sex Attracted people. We hope that after listening you are equipped with some great tools and are drawn to be more humble and Jesus-like in the way you treat all people. Michelle T. Sanchez (M.Div., Th.M.) has served in various discipleship and evangelism leadership roles for more than a decade, including campus ministry, local church ministry, and national denominational leadership. She currently serves as Executive Director of Revoice. Founded in 2018, Revoice is a growing movement that supports and encourages gay, lesbian, bisexual, and other same-sex-attracted Christians—as well as those who love them—so that all in the Church might be empowered to live in gospel unity while observing the historic Christian doctrine of marriage and sexuality in their local faith communities. Prior to this, Michelle served as Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church. She has worked as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs and has served in various capacities with the Institute for Bible Reading, Cru, and the Lausanne Movement. Michelle earned an M.Div. and Th.M. from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, completed spiritual direction training at Boston College, and studied the life and times of Jesus at Jerusalem University College. She is the author of Color-Courageous Discipleship, Color-Courageous Discipleship Student Edition, and the picture book, God's Beloved Community. Michelle is a frequent conference speaker whose writings have also appeared in Outreach Magazine, Faith & Leadership, Missio Alliance, The Priscilla Papers, The Message Women's Devotional Bible (2025), and beyond. Find her at MichelleTSanchez.com. You can also watch the podcast episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/CV7_NQ9cRK8 Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Get a free month of Accountable2You keyword accountability: a2u.app/beyond (do not use “www”) Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak – includes exclusive access to email the show and request topics.
Kara Stromberg, Superintendent of the Northwest Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church, shares about how our suffering and trials form us. Chapel Date: 3/6/24
Welcome to a special series on Unpacked, where we journey to the vibrant and resilient nation of Haiti. In this series, we have the privilege of hearing from inspiring individuals who have not only grown up in this beautiful country but have dedicated their lives to positively impacting their communities.Join us as we sit down with Elio, Jessica, and Dr. Manno, leaders born in Haiti (two still living there) each with a unique story and perspective on life in Haiti. They graciously share their personal experiences, offering a glimpse into the rich tapestry of Haitian culture, and emphasizing the immense joy that persists even in the face of challenging circumstances, including economic and political unrest.This week on Unpacked we are chatting with Jessica Geffrard, administrator, wife, mama and former leader of the Petite Anse Kids Feeding Project in Haut Limbe, Haiti. The Unpacked Team met Jessica several years ago when travelling to Haiti with the Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada. Jessica shares about her life growing up in Haiti as the daughter of a single parent and the oldest in her household she was responsible for taking care of her sibling and the household while her mom worked hard to ensure they had what they needed (education, clothes and food). Jessica shares what she hopes Canadians can learn about her culture and we discuss the immense joy of Haitians in the midst of really challenging situations including economic and political unrest. Jessica is a passionate leader who worked tirelessly to empower the children in Petite Anse and continues to put that energy into everything she does.LINKS-Donate + Support Haiti-Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada-Petite Anse Feeding Project Video (featuring Jessica)-More on Haiti: Dr. Manno's Episode part 1 and part 2-Unpacked Series - Shoulder to Shoulder-Unpacked Series - Everyday Enneagram-Unpacked Series - AdoptionSupport the showUnpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, and storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Instagram:@theunpackedpodFacebook: @theunpackedpodunpackedpod.caSupport the show*music by Bensound
Curtis Chang bridges the worlds of secular institutions and theology. In the former world, he is the founder and CEO of Consulting Within Reach (CWR), a firm serving nonprofits and government agencies. His consulting work has won an award in social innovation from the Obama White House, and he teaches strategic planning as a faculty member of American University's School of International Service.In the Christian world, he is a consulting professor at Duke Divinity School and a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. Curtis is also a former senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in San Jose, California.The Anxiety Opportunity BookRedeeming Babel
In this episode of Faithful Politics, Will Wright and Josh Burtram engage with Curtis Chang, discussing the integration of Christianity with modern societal issues. Chang, the founder of Redeeming Babel and author of "The Anxiety Opportunity," delves into the challenges Christians face in politics and society. He emphasizes the importance of addressing anxiety, understanding the role of organizations, and navigating political engagement from a faith-based perspective.Curtis Chang introduces his initiative "The After Party," focusing on transforming Christian political engagement. This initiative advocates for a more reflective and respectful approach to political discourse, encouraging a shift from what Christians believe to how they engage with others in political contexts. The conversation also touches on the need for a theological perspective on institutions and the Christian church's involvement in politics, culminating in a thoughtful discussion on submitting to God's authority in all aspects of life.To learn more about "The After Party" visit: https://redeemingbabel.org/the-after-party/To hear more from Curtis Chang make sure you subscribe to his podcast: https://redeemingbabel.org/podcast/Guest Bio:Curtis Chang bridges the worlds of secular institutions and theology. In the former world, he is the founder and CEO of Consulting Within Reach (CWR), a firm serving nonprofits and government agencies. His consulting work has won an award in social innovation from the Obama White House, and he teaches strategic planning as a faculty member of American University's School of International Service.In the Christian world, he is a consulting professor at Duke Divinity School and a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. Curtis is also a former senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in San Jose, California. He is the author of the book The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best SelfSupport the showTo learn more about the show, contact our hosts, or recommend future guests, click on the links below: Website: https://www.faithfulpoliticspodcast.com/ Faithful Host: Josh@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Political Host: Will@faithfulpoliticspodcast.com Twitter: @FaithfulPolitik Instagram: faithful_politics Facebook: FaithfulPoliticsPodcast LinkedIn: faithfulpolitics
This week on Unpacked we are chatting with Jessica Geffrard, administrator, wife, mama and former leader of the Petite Anse Kids Feeding Project in Haut Limbe, Haiti. The Unpacked Team met Jessica several years ago when travelling to Haiti with the Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada. Jessica shares about her life growing up in Haiti as the daughter of a single parent and the oldest in her household she was responsible for taking care of her sibling and the household while her mom worked hard to ensure they had what they needed (education, clothes and food). Jessica shares what she hopes Canadians can learn about her culture and we discuss the immense joy of Haitians in the midst of really challenging situations including economic and political unrest. Jessica is a passionate leader who worked tirelessly to empower the children in Petite Anse and continues to put that energy into everything she does. Unpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Links-Evangelical Covenant Church of Canada-Here4Haiti Campaign (support the Petite Anse Feeding Project)-Petite Anse Feeding Project Video (featuring Jessica)-More on Haiti: Dr. Manno's Episode part 1 and part 2 Support the showUnpacked is a podcast exploring life as messy people. It's conversations with counsellors, leaders, and storytellers discussing the experiences of being human. We talk about the strength that comes from big messy failures and vulnerable moments so we can learn to live more authentically. Subscribe and leave us a review!Instagram:@theunpackedpodFacebook: @theunpackedpodunpackedpod.caSupport the show*music by Bensound
Is your faith going through a crisis because of unhealth you see in the contemporary model of church? Or are you a ministry leader worn out from "putting on the show" week after week? Then this conversation between Dr. Peter Sung and Noah Filipiak is for you. Peter is the author of the just released book The Post-Church Church: The Shift from Program and Place to People and Practice, which takes an honest look at the church's problems and discerns the healthy direction God is leading us to. Dr. Peter Sung is the Director of Church Planting and the Conference Coach for the Pacific Northwest Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Church. He is also the Director of Assessment for the ECC. Peter is an ICF-certified (International Coaching Federation) PCC-level (Professional Certified Coach) executive coach, has a doctorate in performance and organizational psychology, teaches family systems theory, and is an ordained minister with a master's in divinity. He has worked for almost three decades in the start-up church and organizational leadership world. His highest and best offerings are coaching, conversation-based personal and organizational assessments, and public speaking. His deep drives are learning, connecting, being active, and eating good food. He feels grateful to live in the beautiful Pacific Northwest with his wife, four daughters, and their goofy doodle, Hobbes. His executing coaching website is www.securebase.cc You can also watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/aeh8KukETXw Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Get a free month of Accountable2You keyword accountability: a2u.app/beyond (do not use “www”) Email the show at podcast@beyondthebattle.net Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak
Earlier this year at the Evangelical Covenant Church's annual conference, Alyssa Paulson stood in front of delegates denomination-wide. She was there to defend her church. “You think that if you can just get them to see, like, ‘Hey, here I am just another human bopping around in this world … then the rest won't matter,” Paulson said later. Awaken West 7th in St. Paul, where she is an elder, was removed from the Evangelical Covenant Church, or ECC, in late June. The removal was due to being “out of harmony” with the denomination's policies and teachings on homosexuality and gay marriage. “It's not OK that my pastor could perform my funeral, but he can't perform my wedding,” Paulson said, adding that she was seeking acknowledgment that queer Christians who want to marry exist. “You can speak on my love in death, but not in life.” Reevaluating the conversationAwaken West 7th's removal from the ECC is just the latest episode in a wider conversation for churches about the place LBGTQ+ people have in their congregations.At the conference, Paulson says that it seemed most people had already made up their minds, even before she gave her defense statement. “I'm talking to everybody making friends, and everyone was kind and loving and accepting,” Paulson recounts. “The second people found out that I was from Awaken, and who I was — literally eyes shot the other direction.” For Awaken West 7th, run-ins with church leadership have a more extended history. In 2017, Lead Pastor Micah Witham was suspended for giving a blessing over a same-sex couple in his congregation. His decision to officiate a same-sex wedding in 2020 ultimately led to the church's removal. Witham said he met “with the Board of Ordered Ministry, like five different times.”Witham believes everyone should be able to participate fully in church life at Awaken. He decided to officiate the same-sex marriage ceremony partly to make the ECC reevaluate its rules for pastors and churches. “The last time this happened was 1996. That's almost 30 years ago, right?” Witham is referring to a resolution on human sexuality. It was adopted as the basis for Church policies in the 2000s. “Gay marriage wasn't legal in the United States of America at that time. To say we've already had this conversation is just so ... inadequate.” A grieving fellowshipThe ECC's official stance currently is “faithfulness in heterosexual marriage, celibacy in singleness — these constitute the Christian standard. When we fall short, we are invited to repent, receive the forgiveness of God and amend our lives.” Updated guidelines from the 2010s state that pastors can attend as a congregant but can't bless, pray, officiate or participate in same-sex weddings. ECC member churches are also prohibited from hosting same-sex weddings. According to Witham, these new guidelines were not voted on or discussed by the majority of pastors in the denomination. This discussion and voting process is typically required before adopting such measures. When the church updated these guidelines, Witham said that there were “no pastor[s] who dissent[ed] on this theologically in the room.” Like Paulson, Witham spoke at the annual national conference to argue against removal. He made his case for LGBTQ+ acceptance but didn't seek to change the ECC's overall stance. Instead, he wanted more dialogue and for individual churches in the denomination to make their own decisions. In the end, 75 percent of delegates voted to remove Awaken from the Evangelical Covenant Church.Awaken also isn't the first church involuntarily removed. In 2019, First Covenant Church in Minneapolis was also removed for adopting similar policies accepting LGBTQ+ congregants to participate fully in church life, including marriage. In an announcement to media, Evangelical Covenant Church Executive Board Chair Tim Rodgers said, “We are always grieved when fellowship is broken ... we pray for God's blessing on Awaken and the Covenant Church as we each continue to join God in mission.” The Evangelical Covenant Church did not respond to requests for comment in time for publication. The situation isn't unique to the Twin Cities. Quest Church in Seattle, Wash., voluntarily left the denomination over similar issues this year.“The Evangelical Covenant Church leadership at that time was very dogmatic in opposition to that,” said Brent Carlson, leadership chair at First Covenant. “Unfortunately, that is not the tradition of the [ECC].” The financial factorCarlson and Witham have repeatedly said that, in their view, the ECC has historically valued having various opinions on religious beliefs and interpretations. “The Covenant Church was about dialogue, community, love within the community ... it seems to have changed, and that's unfortunate,” Carlson said.“For a lot of people, this topic brings up a lot of fear about what's next. Kind of the classic slippery slope argument,” Witham said.He also believes money plays a big part. “There are a lot of churches who have said, if the covenant moves on this, we will leave.” The end of polite disagreementThe politicization of evangelical Christianity means churches risk losing their base if they move towards LGBTQ+ inclusion, said Anthea Butler, chair of the religious studies department at the University of Pennsylvania and an expert on evangelicalism.“Sexuality has always been a part for evangelicals to be, not just a moral issue, but a political issue as well,” Butler explained. In her opinion, the time for polite disagreement within churches, especially evangelical ones, is over, and she doubts it ever truly happened.“This is a theological issue. And so, [for the ECC] the theology says, ‘We don't do same-sex marriage.'” Since First Covenant in Minneapolis was removed from the ECC, they have concentrated on social justice issues, mainly housing and homelessness. They are considering how churches must adapt, down to the language they use. “We don't call them services anymore. We call them gatherings because we want to get away from the traditional preaching down from on high,” Carlson said. Awaken is not currently seeking to join a new denomination. A recent annual budget increased by 20 percent. Witham questions if being removed might hurt the ECC more than it hurts Awaken. “If a Christian church is in the sweet spot of God's heart, where the Spirit is leading, it will produce good fruit,” Witham said, borrowing from a passage from Galatians. “[If you] look around at Awaken, there's fruit everywhere. So, [in] some ways, I'm sad for the Covenant.”
Guest Bio: Sarah Cowan Johnson is a ministry trainer, consultant, and coach who works with church planters, pastors, and ministry leaders across the United States. She leads seminars for parents on family discipleship to help their children walk in the way of Jesus. She served with the Evangelical Covenant Church as the executive pastor for Sanctuary Church in Providence, Rhode Island, and she previously was a staff trainer and an area director for InterVarsity Christian Fellowship. Johnson is the cohost of The People of the Way podcast. She and her husband have two sons and live in Providence. Show Summary: Do you have kids in your life? Maybe you're a parent, a teacher, part of a kids ministry, or a babysitter in the midst of teaching or parenting kids. No matter what your role is, you may be overlooking the discipleship aspect of leading children. We are seeing high numbers of children who grow up and abandon their faith. Ministry trainer and leader Sarah Cowan Johnson is determined to grow awareness by equipping people with the tools they need to teach their children well. Join hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Adkins as they learn more about how to disciple children from Sarah Cowan Johnson during this conversation on God Hears Her. Notes and Quotes: “. . .50% of our kids in our churches that are actively involved are walking away from their faith after they graduate.” —Sarah Johnson “There is one thing that makes a difference. . . it's parents who talk about and practice their faith at home. Statistics show that 82% of kids whose parents do that go on to follow Jesus as adults.” —Sarah Johnson “Kids go through stages of spiritual development just like they go through stages of emotional development, social development, all the things.” —Sarah Johnson “For the 12 and up crowd, the primary way that they engage their faith is by questioning and it looks like rejection even sometimes.” —Sarah Johnson “We are often tempted to be a priest for our kids, standing between God and our kids.” —Sarah Johnson “We should get out of the way and turn them over to God as soon as possible because that way, when the kid, as a natural part of growing up, rejects their parents' values, they won't reject God because God is theirs.” —Sarah Johnson “The goal is we want to connect them as early as we can to God directly, one to one and not make it a triangle, so that when they do push away from us they still are connected to God.” —Sarah Johnson “We need to teach our children how to hear God's voice.” —Sarah Johnson “God knows our kids more than we do. He loves our kids more than we do. He wants a relationship with them more than we want them to know Jesus and He's at work.” —Sarah Johnson “You're yoked to Jesus, and He is the one actually doing the work.” —Sarah Johnson Verses: Deuteronomy 6 Ezekiel 11:9 Links: Sticky Faith: Everyday Ideas to Build Lasting Faith in Your Kids by Dr. Kara E. Powell and Dr. Chap Clark: https://a.co/d/8XicfL5 The People of the Way podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/people-of-the-way-podcast/id1511317543 Teach Your Children Well by Sara Cowan Johnson: https://teachyourchildrenwell.co/ God Hears Her website: https://www.godhearsher.org/ God Hears Her email sign-up: https://www.godhearsher.org/sign-upsfmc Subscribe on iTunes! https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/god-hears-her-podcast/id1511046507?utm_source=applemusic&utm_medium=godhearsher&utm_campaign=podcast Elisa's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisamorganauthor/ Eryn's Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eryneddy/ MB01WXP6T0AAW0O
Noah interviews Drs. Glenn Bracey and Michael Emerson on their national research project where they interviewed practicing white Christians on matters of race. What they found was that practicing white Christians hold some unique views on race that are not shared by any other demographic in the United States. Their views differ from practicing black or Latino Christians, as well as from white non-Christians. This research is being compiled into Bracey and Emerson's upcoming book from Oxford University Press titled The Religion of Whiteness: How Racism Distorts American Christianity (February 2024). You can also listen to Dr. Emerson's talk from the Evangelical Covenant Church's national Midwinter 2022 conference, which breaks down this research: https://www.youtube.com/live/1TinhRaCQSA?feature=share&t=1198 You can also watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/eH8qYst5J-E Noah highly recommends Dr. Emerson's previous book Divided by Faith: Evangelical Religion and the Problem of Race in America. Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Get a free month of Accountable2You keyword accountability: a2u.app/beyond (do not use “www”) Email the show at podcast@beyondthebattle.net Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak
Garth McGrath, Superintendent of the Great Lakes Conference of the Evangelical Covenant Churches shares a message for Pastor Matt and One Church following the ordination of Pastor Matt in the Evangelical Covenant Church. Matthew 4:18-22, John 21:15-18, & 1 Peter 5:1-4
My guest this week is Curtis Chang, a theologian, consulting faculty member at Duke Divinity School and a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. His ministry experience includes serving as a senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in California, a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, and engaging in racial reconciliation work in Soweto, South Africa. Curtis is the founding Executive Director of Redeeming Babel, a nonprofit that helps Christians engage the wider world. He also hosts the Good Faith podcast where he discusses how Christian faith intersects with culture, law, and politics. His latest book, The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry Is the Doorway to Your Best Self, was released in May. 3:26 – Curtis 101 Curtis has always stood at the intersection between the world of secular institutions and work and Christian faith. He wrote a book about anxiety because it is a pervasive pandemic, and Christianity has something to say about it. 7:49 – Shame of anxiety In the Christian faith, there's a tremendous amount of shame around anxiety. Some see it as a flaw, lack of faith or sin. Curtis has suffered from anxiety for his much of his life. He once had a catastrophic breakdown and had trouble sleeping. Anxiety is the most profound opportunity for spiritual growth we may have. 12:44 – Anxiety spectrum We all exist somewhere on the anxiety spectrum. There's a difference between anxiety and anxiety disorder. Anxiety is the fear of loss. An anxiety disorder is when our response to anxiety is dysfunctional and unhealthy. 19:38 – Avoiding the unavoidable Many Christians fall into the trap of thinking that bad things won't happen to them because they are believers. But Christians experience loss, too. God did not let you down if you experience a loss. You can't avoid the unavoidable. 23:43 – How to handle loss The real promise of the gospel is not loss avoidance, but loss restoration. You have to go through loss to get to future restoration. 25:22 – Anxious children Your kid's anxiety can make you anxious. Curtis has two daughters. He has tried to jump in and make their anxiety go away. But that makes them more anxious. Instead, he holds their loss and empathizes with them. 35:40 – Anxiety and politics Why talk about anxiety and politics? Because you can't respond to what's happening with politics without acknowledging the pervasive anxiety around it. Politics can be a toxic drug. 48:32 – Advice about anxiety If you want to lessen anxiety, get curious about what you're feeling and experiencing. FEATURED QUOTES The best way to understand me is, I'm someone who has always stood at the intersection between the world of secular institutions and work and the Christian faith. There is a pervasive and growing pandemic – and it is a mental health pandemic – of anxiety. The Christian faith has something really helpful to say. There's a tremendous amount of shame around anxiety. I write as somebody who knows of the painful reality of anxiety. Anxiety is actually the most profound opportunity for spiritual growth we may have. https://redeemingbabel.org/ https://www.amazon.com/Anxiety-Opportunity-Worry-Doorway-Your/dp/031036728X
On this episode, we are joined by Rev. Gail Song Bantum, Lead Pastor of Quest Church, which recently voluntarily cut ties with its denomination—the Evangelical Covenant Church—because of its hard right turn on LGBTQIA+ inclusion. Pastor Gail was invited to speak with us today, because she is an eye witness to a profound come-to-Jesus moment taking place right now inside of white evangelical denominations. She posted her letter to the denomination online. Lisa read it. We are going to talk about it. We'd love to hear your thoughts. Tweet to Lisa @LisaSHarper or to Freedom Road @FREEDOMROADUS. We're also on Substack! So be sure to subscribe to The Truth Is... and Freedom Road. And, keep sharing the podcast with your friends and networks and letting us know what you think! twitter.com/lisasharper twitter.com/FreedomRoadus lisasharonharper.substack.com/ freedomroad.substack.com/ www.thebantumspace.com/gailbantum seattlequest.org/
Michelle is passionate to see disciples be transformed as they transform the world. She serves as Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church. She has also served on the advisory board of the Institute for Bible reading, ministered to international students with Cru in New York City, and engaged in three global gatherings of the Lausanne Movement. Michelle earned an M.Div. and Th.M. from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, completed spiritual direction training at Boston College, and studied the life and times of Jesus at Jerusalem University College. After majoring in international business at NYU, she worked as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs. A regular columnist with Outreach Magazine, Michelle is also the author of a trilogy of books that provide Christ-centered racial discipleship for all ages: Color-Courageous Discipleship, Color-Courageous Discipleship Student Edition, and the picture book, God's Beloved Community. Michelle and her family live in the greater Chicago area.
On this week's episode, Hunter, Garrick, and Nikki talk about Coastline's denomination: the Evangelical Covenant Church. We talk about our history with the covenant, what it means for each of us to be covenant, and little bit about what makes the ECC denomination unique. This is a really personal episode that helps to paint a picture of the history of Coastline, so if you've been with us for a while or wondered how we got to where we are, make sure you listen!
Curtis Chang joins Dr. Mark Turman to talk about his book, The Anxiety Opportunity, how anxiety affected Chang's life, why anxiety is not a sin but a chance for spiritual growth, how anxiety reflects a fear of loss, and how Jesus speaks into our worries. Show notes: Curtis Chang begins by sharing a deeply personal story about struggling with his anxiety disorder as a senior pastor and how God helped him see anxiety as an opportunity for spiritual growth (3:04). Chang explains how some level of anxiety is natural and why we can't just “pray it away” (8:04). They discuss how anxiety is the fear of future loss, and this should prompt us to ask: what are we afraid of losing (20:10)? Chang gives practical ways to overcome the symptoms of anxiety while warning that we must also address the deeper heart issues, relying on the power of the Holy Spirit (29:31). They consider the danger of avoiding loss at all costs, remembering that we will lose everything on this earth at some point, and how loss avoidance can end in a false version of the gospel (38:46). They close by talking about the importance of community to deal with anxiety, taking it first to God and then to others who love us (54:10). Resources and further reading: The Anxiety Opportunity: How Worry is the Doorway to Your Best Self, Curtis Chang Redeeming Babel The Good Faith podcast “In “The Anxiety Opportunity,” Curtis Chang says that worry opens doors to our best selves” Mark Legg About the host Mark Turman, DMin, is the executive director of Denison Forum. He received his DMin from Truett at Baylor and previously served as lead pastor of Crosspoint Church. About the guest As a theologian, Curtis is on the faculty of Duke Divinity School and is a Senior Fellow at Fuller Theological Seminary. His ministry experience includes serving as a senior pastor of an Evangelical Covenant Church in California, a campus minister with InterVarsity Christian Fellowship, and engaging in racial reconciliation work in Soweto, South Africa. He has authored or contributed to numerous books, including Engaging Unbelief: A Captivating Strategy from Augustine and Aquinas (IVP). Curtis is the founding Executive Director of Redeeming Babel, a nonprofit that produces content to promote a reformation in how Christians engage the wider world. He also co-hosts (with David French) the Good Faith podcast, where they discuss how Christian faith intersects with culture, law, and politics. His biblical insights are enriched by his own secular career, which includes founding a White House award-winning nonprofit consulting firm and teaching strategic planning as a faculty at American University's School of International Service. Curtis graduated from Harvard University and is a former Rockefeller Fellow.
Robert is Senior Professor of Theology and Culture at Fuller Theological Seminary where he has taught students how to engage both biblically and theologically with movies, popular culture, and contemporary fiction. He is a recipient of the Weyerhaeuser Award as “teacher of the year” at Fuller, as well as a former provost both at Fuller and at North Park University. Robert has been a member of the ecumenical juries at the Locarno, Cannes, and Venice Film Festivals. He is an ordained minister in the Evangelical Covenant Church. A co-director of Fuller's Reel Spirituality Institute and a past president of the American Theological Society, Robert has written or edited fifteen books including: Deep Focus, which he co-authored with Kutter Callaway and Craig Detweiler, God in the Movies, which he co-edited with Catherine Barsotti, God's Wider Presence, Don't Stop Believin', Useless Beauty: Ecclesiastes through the Lens of Contemporary Film, Finding God in the Movies, also co-authored with Catherine Barsotti, Reel Spirituality, and The Christian at Play. In this episode, Robert and I discussed how cinema can feed our spiritual growth. One of the foremost figures on the subject of theology and film, Robert shared his thoughts on an array of issues, from how the movies have influenced the public's perception of Christianity to the ways film can inspire theological reflection. We also talked about the challenges posed by new technologies that have influenced the way we watch films in our current digital age.
Show Notes This month, Layla and Rob are joined by married co-pastors (and co-parents!) Rici and Phil Skei. Two themes emerged from the conversation. First, Rici shares her testimony of God speaking to her (while driving on the freeway!) about there being no limits on her ministry leadership. Second, the Skeis paint a compelling picture of joyful role flexibility, both in ministry and in the home. Disclaimer The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters podcast are those of its hosts or guests and do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. Bio Phil and Rici Skei are both natives of Fresno, California. They serve as co-pastors of On Ramps Covenant Church in their downtown Fresno neighborhood. In addition to pastoring alongside Rici, Phil works as the assistant director of planning and development for the City of Fresno where he oversees the development of affordable housing and homeless response. Phil received his bachelor of science degree from CSU Fresno, and his Master of Divinity degree from the Fresno Pacific Biblical Seminary (Fresno, California). Rici holds a bachelor's degree in psychology and master's degree in education – both from Fresno Pacific University, as well as a master's degree in Christian Formation from North Park Theological Seminary. They are both ordained ministers with the Evangelical Covenant Church and are contributing authors to Out of Nazareth: Christ-Centered Civic Transformation in Unlikely Places. Additionally, Rici published, Let the People Worship, a 40-Day Devotional which is being used throughout the Country as a way to develop and invest in both English-speaking and Spanish-speaking worship leaders and praise teams. Rici and Phil have been married since 2001 and are the proud parents of two beautiful daughters. Listeners can reach Phil and Rici Skei at: Phil-Rici Skei on Facebook @philskei on Twitter @riciskei, @teamskei and @onrampschurch on Instagram Other Resources: My Ordination Story: A Calling Affirmed Building Confidence in Your Calling: Overcoming the Inner Critic No More Doubt: How I Finally Embraced My Ministry Calling
In this episode, Eric Bryant interviews Michelle Sanchez, the Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church and author of Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community. Praise for Michelle's book: —Dave Ferguson, Founder of the Exponential Movement & Lead Pastor, Community Christian Church“A clear biblical theology for why racial solidarity is integral to discipleship—one that is not influenced by the right or the left but by Jesus!” Our goal with The Post-Christian Podcast is to reframe, simplify, and focus on our mission to make disciples in a post Christian culture. We discuss reaching new people and raising up leaders while removing the barriers of churchianity. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/eric-bryant1/support
Welcome to the Love Where You Are podcast! In today's episode I am joined by Author Michelle Sanchez. Michelle is passionate for disciples to be transformed as they transform the world. She serves as Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church. She has also served on the advisory board of the Institute for Bible reading, ministered to international students with Cru in New York City, and engaged in three global gatherings of the Lausanne Movement. Michelle earned a Master of Divinity and Master of Theology from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, completed spiritual direction training at Boston College, and studied the life and times of Jesus at Jerusalem University College. She has published four books and is a regular columnist with Outreach Magazine. Hey friend, It is difficult navigating the division of our world, and it can be especially confusing for our kids who see it everywhere. As we raise the next generation of Christ followers, we as parents need tools to equip our kids to be a part of the solution to the division we see all around us. In this week's episode I sat down with author, Michelle Sanchez to discuss the beauty of community, how God created community, and how we are all made in the image of God. Michelle reminds us about the importance of communicating with our kids and how it is in fact at the core of scripture. Jesus reached out to the outcasts, so must we; and He gave us the great commission to seek out all people across the world. On this Martin Luther King Jr. Day, take time to listen to this encouraging conversation! You can connect with Michelle through Facebook, Instagram, and her website where you can buy God's Beloved Community or her other resources such as, Color-Courageous Discipleship. FAVORITE TAKE-AWAYS: *What was Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.'s real dream? We remember his "I have a dream" speech but sometimes we forget he was a pastor and his real dream was a spiritual one, for all of us to love one another as a body of Christ. *Our kids are experiencing broken community, and Michelle offers the solution to communicate with them about it. It all begins in Genesis, even with God Himself as the Trinity, Three in One, there was community--likewise, humans were built for community. *Every culture has its strengths and weaknesses. One strength in the United States is our independence, but it also becomes a weakness because we lack a strong sense of community and understand its importance; other cultures may lack individual independence but succeed with community bonds. REMEMBER: *Jesus reached out to the marginalized. "It's all about the heart." - Michelle. *Reconciliation as disciples hasn't been at the forefront of priorities. *We are here to advance the Kingdom of God, all nations like a colorful tapestry. SCRIPTURE: Revelations 7 Matthew 28 Connect with Somer! Stay connected to Somer and the Love Where You Are podcast through her Facebook & Instagram! Now, go love where you are and live on mission for Jesus today.
Church and Main: At the Intersection of Religion and Public Life
The Evangelical Covenant Church is a denomination with roots in the pietist movement with Lutheran roots with about 200,000 members in the United States and Canada. While it was founded by Swedish immigrants, it is a very diverse denomination. At the 2019 Annual Meeting in Omaha, the church did something that had never been in done before: it expelled one of the oldest churches in the church, First Covenant Church in Minneapolis for its affirming stance on LGBTQ issues. History might repeat itself later this year when two other churches could be expelled, one in the Twin Cities and another in Seattle. I chatted with historian Chris Gehrz on this important issue. Gehrz is a professor of history at Bethel University in St. Paul, Minnesota. Chris has written three books on pietism including the Pietist Option: Hope for the Renewal of Christianity, which he co-wrote with Mark Pattie. We talk about the history of the Evangelical Covenant Church, the 2019 decision to expel First Covenant in Minneapolis, why the LGBTQ issue is so intractable and what might happen in 2023.Show Notes:Freedom in Christ- An Article written by Gehrz on the LGBTQ issueWhat is Pietism- Previous Episode with GehrzAmy Grant conquered Christian music. That was just her first act.Follow Church and Main:FacebookInstagramTwitterChurch and Main is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Church and Main at churchandmain.substack.com/subscribe
Noah interviews Michelle Sanchez on what color courageous discipleship looks like. Michelle does a great job of tactfully leading listeners (and readers of her books) into the truths of antiracism, but in a way that is approachable. Her focus is on the overall discipleship of every Christian and how important that being color courageous is a part of that. Michelle's books: Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community Color-Courageous Discipleship Student Edition: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community God's Beloved Community: A Picture Book You can find more from Michelle at www.colorcourageous.com and www.facebook.com/colorcourageous Michelle is passionate to see disciples be transformed as they transform the world. She serves as Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church. She has also served on the advisory board of the Institute for Bible reading, ministered to international students with Cru in New York City, and engaged in three global gatherings of the Lausanne Movement. Michelle earned an M.Div. and Th.M. from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary, completed spiritual direction training at Boston College, and studied the life and times of Jesus at Jerusalem University College. After majoring in international business at NYU, she worked as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs. A regular columnist with Outreach Magazine, Michelle and her family live in the greater Chicago area. Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Email the show at podcast@beyondthebattle.net Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak
Michelle T. Sanchez has an MDiv and ThM from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and spiritual direction training at Boston College and field studies on the life and times of Jesus at Jerusalem University College. Michelle serves as executive minister of make and deepen disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church, a multiethnic denomination of over 900 congregations throughout North America. Michelle is the author of Color-Courageous Discipleship (2022) and the picture book God's Beloved Community (2022). Michelle has a passion for discipleship and also for racial reconciliation, and in this conversation she shows how the latter is an essential part of the former. Michelle will be speaking at this year's “Exiles in Babylon” conference in Boise, ID (March 2023). Find out more info at www.theologyintheraw.com Learn more about Michelle: https://michelletsanchez.com/ If you would like to support Theology in the Raw, please visit patreon.com/theologyintheraw for more information!
Noah interviews Pastor Laura Tarro, who is planting Bethany Covenant Church in St. Charles, Illinois. Noah and Laura were in a 6-month church planting cohort together with their denomination, the Evangelical Covenant Church. Church planting is rigorous and full of challenges. Laura talks through some of the additional, unique challenges she has faced as a woman lead church planting pastor. Laura is a 1997 graduate of Wheaton College with a B.A. in Art and Philosophy. She holds a Master of Arts in Religion from Trinity Evangelical Divinity School. She is currently completing her Master of Divinity from Northern Seminary. The Tarros have been deeply involved in the life and leadership of their local church and in their community. They have two teenagers. In 2020, Laura began a two-year pastoral internship at Batavia Covenant Church in order to complete her supervised ministry requirement for her Master of Divinity. She is also the co-host of the Kingdom Roots Podcast with Scot McKnight. She became a licensed pastor with the Evangelical Covenant Church in 2021. She is planting Bethany Covenant Church in St. Charles, Illinois. You can donate to Laura's church plant fundraising efforts at www.bethanycov.org Book recommendations from the interview: The Gospel of Ruth by Carolyn Custis James Gender Roles and the People of God by Alice Matthews Flip Side Notes: Join an upcoming Beyond the Battle online group at www.beyondthebattle.net Support Flip Side sponsor Angry Brew by using promo code FLIP at angrybrew.com or fivelakes.com to pick up some Angry Brew or Chris' Blend coffee at 10% off. Get a free month of Covenant Eyes at www.covenanteyes.com using promo code BEYOND Email the show at podcast@beyondthebattle.net Support the show and get some sweet swag by becoming a patron at www.patreon.com/noahfilipiak
In this episode of We Are Vineyard, Jay talks with Matt Croasmun about growing up in the Evangelical Covenant Church, and how getting involved with Intervarsity sparked his interest and love of scripture and ministry and tied him to a local church where he encountered the Living God. Matt shares about the new questions and new assurances he gathers as he deepens in relationship with Jesus and scripture, and why he believes questions are healthy, biblical, and the key to relationship. Matt Croasmun is Associate Research Scholar and director of the Life Worth Living program at the Yale Center for Faith & Culture at Yale Divinity School and lecturer of Humanities at Yale University. He also serves as faith initiative director at the Grace Farms Foundation and as a pastor at the Elm City Vineyard Church, which he helped plant in 2007 and where he served as lead pastor for six years. He is author of The Body of Sin: The Cosmic Tyrant in Romans (2017), Let Me Ask You a Question: Conversations with Jesus (2018), For the Life of the World: Theological that Makes a Difference with Miroslav Volf (2019), and The Hunger for Home: Food and Meals in the Gospel of Luke with Miroslav Volf (2022). Life Worth Living: A Guide to What Matters Most with Miroslav Volf and Ryan McAnnally-Linz is forthcoming in March 2023. Show Notes: The Gospel Precisely by Matthew Bates Vineyard USA's suggested reading for November https://amzn.to/3WJsL5J Free of Charge by Miroslav Volf https://amzn.to/3Ev0uHB The Hunger For Home by Matthew Croasmun and Miroslav Volf https://amzn.to/3EQxj2b Let Me Ask You A Question by Matthew Croasmun https://amzn.to/3V22bmS Life Worth Living by Miroslav Volf, Matthew Croasmun and Ryan McAnnally-Linz Coming March 2023 https://amzn.to/3GCXzzm Socials: Vineyardusa.org @vineyardusa Matt's Twitter: @mattcroasmun
Disclaimer The opinions expressed in CBE's Mutuality Matters' podcast are those of its hosts or guests do not purport to reflect the opinions or views of CBE International or its members or chapters worldwide. The designations employed in this podcast and the presentation of content therein do not imply the expression of any opinion whatsoever on the part of CBE concerning the legal status of any country, area or territory or of its authorities, or concerning the delimitation of its frontiers. Show Notes As disciples striving to reflect the true nature of God through Christ, we must have courage to be different than most people in the world, including how we deal with racism. Michelle T. Sanchez, author of the newly released book, Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community, shares with Angela her belief that it is impossible to separate race, discipleship, and our relationship with God. Listen in as they discuss both the theological foundation for her assertion and the practical implications for how we live "color-courageously" daily, choosing to see color so that we can dismantle racism, pursue equity, and build beloved community. To receive a sneak peek of Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community (first chapter) and God's Beloved Community: A Picture Book (first few pages) text “courage” to 44144. Doing this will also subscribe you to receive more information and updates from Michelle T. Sanchez. Bio Michelle T. Sanchez, MDiv, ThM, is the senior discipleship and evangelism leader of the Evangelical Covenant Church, a vibrant multiethnic denomination of more than 875 congregations. Michelle completed seminary degrees at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and spiritual direction training at Boston College. She is a conference speaker and a columnist with Outreach magazine. Michelle has enjoyed engaging with colorful cultures in over thirty countries and territories around the world. She and her husband, Mickey, live with their children in the Chicago area. Other Reading and Resources: “Color-Courageous Biblical Equality” at CBE's 2022 International Conference in Atlanta, Georgia (Video) Color-Courageous Discipleship: Follow Jesus, Dismantle Racism, and Build Beloved Community by Michelle T. Sanchez Learn more about Michelle at https://michelletsanchez.com/
Let's Parent on Purpose: Christian Parenting, Marriage, and Family Talk
In a culture inflamed by racial tensions, how can parents teach children a healthy perspective on race and culture? Author Michelle Sanchez joins me today for a discussion on the gospel vision of a diverse, multiethnic community. We talk about how backgrounds and personal experiences can form our racial prejudices. Michelle also shares biblical, Christ-honoring ways for a parent or church to pursue healthy, diverse racial relationships. Michelle T. Sanchez, MDiv, ThM, is the senior discipleship and evangelism leader of the Evangelical Covenant Church, a vibrant multiethnic denomination of more than 900 congregations. Michelle completed seminary degrees at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and spiritual direction training at Boston College. She is a conference speaker and a columnist with Outreach magazine. Michelle has enjoyed engaging with colorful cultures in over thirty countries and territories around the world. She and her husband, Mickey, live with their children in the Chicago area. Michelle has written a trilogy of books on color-courageous discipleship centered on the healing power of the gospel of Christ. Resources Mentioned: Michelle's Website https://michelletsanchez.com Sign up for my Things for Thursday Email: https://tinyurl.com/292kv68y Support Let's Parent on Purpose! https://letsparentonpurpose.com/support/
We get to have a compelling interview with author and speaker Michelle Sanchez about her calling to serve the church. Michelle shares with us about her most recent book release, "God's Beloved Community. Michelle T. Sanchez, MDiv, ThM, serves as Executive Minister of Make and Deepen Disciples for the Evangelical Covenant Church, a multiethnic denomination of 875+ congregations. Michelle is the author of Color-Courageous Discipleship, Color-Courageous Discipleship Student Edition, and the picture book, God's Beloved Community (all with Waterbrook, 2022). After studying international business at NYU, Michelle worked as an investment banker with Goldman Sachs and ministered to international students with Cru. She has served in various capacities with the Institute for Bible Reading and the Lausanne Movement for world evangelization. She is a frequent conference speaker and a regular columnist for Outreach Magazine. Find her at MichelleTSanchez.com
0:00-8:51: Should children be permitted to have transgender surgeries? 8:51-17:05: Natalie Marie Rodriguez, Executive Director of Hopeful Beginnings, joins to talk about Infant Loss Awareness month, how Hopeful Beginnings is helping moms, and best practices for supporting those in your life who have lost a child. Visit https://www.hopefulbeginning.org/ for more, and to learn about their upcoming gala on November 12. 17:05-28:15: As a pastor, it's awkward–and hurts–when people ghost your church. Brian and Aubrey share stories & have a specific ask for people who are thinking about leaving. 28:15-37:14: Which Americans are most likely to be “nones”? The data might surprise you. 37:14-46:53: Should we center ourselves in other people's stories, especially on social media? An innocent tweet from a woman about having coffee with her husband went viral, and Aubrey has strong thoughts. 46:53-56:47: Michelle Sanchez, senior discipleship and evangelism leader of the Evangelical Covenant Church, joins to talk about her new book for churches: Color-Courageous Discipleship.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
So Much More: Creating Space for God (Lectio Divina and Scripture Meditation)
Rev. Jonna Fantz is a pastor, poet, and perpetual student. She is committed to helping facilitate transformation by encouraging a life-orienting relationship with Jesus Christ. Her most recent call was as the Worship and Community Life Pastor at Salem Covenant Church in New Brighton, MN. Jonna has also served as a spiritual director and Adult Discipleship Pastor in the Twin Cities area in Minnesota for over 20 years. Take a few minutes to meditate on Deuteronomy 6:4-9 and then listen in to hear where God led Jonna. Some highlights from our conversation: Jonna highlights the transition the Israelites were undergoing when Moses spoke these words. They were moving from a season of orientation to disorientation. We also discussed the seasons of disorientation Jonna has experienced and how the Lord used this passage to remind her of truth she needs to cling to in this season. Jonna gives insight into what “love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength” would have meant for the Israelites. It's a little different than what it would mean for us. We talk about the two words the Lord drew Jonna to: hear and love. And how he was inviting her to hear and love differently in this season of her life. Jonna also brought new insight into the exhortation that the nation of Israel write things down. Spoiler: It cost a lot more for them to write things down than us. Finally, we talk about spiritual direction. We discuss what it is, why a spiritual director is helpful and how to find one. You can connect with Jonna directly via email at jonnafantz@hotmail.com If you are looking for a spiritual director, you can visit the Evangelical Covenant Church website here. You can also find a directory on the Grafted Life website here. (I personally know a few of the directors listed on this site. Both places are good and trusted places to go.) The exact verses read in this podcast are: Deuteronomy 6:4-9, NIV 4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. y 5 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength. 6 These commandments that I give you today are to be on your hearts. 7 Impress them on your children. Talk about them when you sit at home and when you walk along the road, when you lie down and when you get up. 8 Tie them as symbols on your hands and bind them on your foreheads. 9 Write them on the doorframes of your houses and on your gates.
In this episode of We Are Vineyard, Jay talks with Ray Maldonado about the decades of work he's invested in advocating for diversity and developing multicultural churches. Ray shares the story of how the Lord reclaimed his marriage, the scripture that turned his heart toward the fringes of his community, his call to ministry, and how he came to study diversity in the Vineyard Movement as a doctoral student. Ray and Jay discuss what they have been gleaning from the Evangelical Covenant Church and the challenges and opportunities a Euro-American, English-dominant church may encounter in moving toward multiculturalism. Dr. Rafael Maldonado Jr., or “Ray” as he is known to his friends, pastored in Chicago for 29 years in two churches. He is the head Caribbean Missions Coordinator for the Vineyard Movement, and also leads a Partnership for an island in the Caribbean. Besides developing a church planting program, Ray is a Certified Coach and coaches church planters and leaders in the U.S. and Latin America. He and his wife Teresa have five children and eleven grandchildren, live in Lakeland, Florida and are involved in the Lakeland Vineyard. Ray's heart is to promote the heart of Jesus for the Biblically diverse church that he calls the Transcultural Church. He received his doctoral degree from Bakke Graduate University. Show Notes: Vineyard USA suggested reading for September Prophetic Lament by Soong-Chan Rah https://vineyardusa.org/podcast/ Evangelical Covenant Church- Sankofa https://covchurch.org/mercy-justice/sankofa/ Socials Socials: Vineyardusa.org @vineyardusa