Each episode of The Shakedown discusses a question about criminal justice. Hosts and guests share their stories and personal experiences to give audiences a deeper understanding of what justice means and what consequences it can have.
Today we turn our 101 series to crime. Starting with the laws and who makes them, I then explain the legal terms for common crimes that many people think they know...including me.Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownRainforest on IG: @lorax4life
This is the third episode of The Shakedown's Prison Crash Course. On this episode I discuss food in prison, holidays in prison, working in the kitchen, and the most memorable story about stealing food from the kitchen.Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownRainforest on IG: @lorax4life00:00 - Start00:13 - Food in prison01:12 - Raw vegetables and prison food01:52 - What times are meals in prison02:57 - Why are prison feeding schedules so early?07:55 - How inmates physically go to meals10:16 - Prison and food insecurity11:25 - How do holiday meals work in prison14:00 - The importance of chicken in prison14:36 - What is Juneteenth?16:21 - Stealing food out of the prison kitchen and the "perks" of kitchen jobs19:17 - The most memorable prison food stealing story20:26 - How long do you have to eat in prison?
This is the second episode of The Shakedown's Prison Crash Course. On this episode I discuss commissary in prison: what is commissary, how does it work, why it's NOT a grocery store, and where the products come from. I also explain how you can help support inmates who are still inside.Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownRainforest on IG: @lorax4life00:00 - Let's talk about COMMISSARY!00:59 - What is commissary?01:22 - Rainforest's One-Man Show Describing Commissary04:19 - The most challenging part of commissary in prison06:00 - Prison food vs. commissary08:08 - Where do commissary products come from09:54 - The prison commissary slave cycle10:38 - How you can help inmates still inside12:06 - Call to action!
This is the first episode of The Shakedown's Prison Crash Course. On this episode we discuss visitation in prison: how it works, why it's important, and why it is becoming more dissicult in prisons. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownRainforest on IG: @lorax4life
Pardons seem to be trending lately, especially in politics. However, don't they undermine the entire justice system? In this episode we will discuss the 4 purposes of the justice system and corrections - starting way back with some biblical history. Then we will dive into presidential pardon powers, the pros and cons, as well as my personal views. As always, we will wrap up with ways you can help to make the justice system better. Also, if you are wondering what happened over the break, there will be a catch-up at the end as well.Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressThe Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedownRainforest on IG: @lorax4lifeREFERENCESThe History of the Pardon Power, White House History https://www.whitehousehistory.org/the-history-of-the-pardon-powerThe Four Purposes of Correctionshttps://cap-press.com/files/PPTwebsamples-DO%20NOT%20REMOVE/DelCastilloImpactofRegCrimLaw2eSampleSlides/DelCastilloImpactRegCrimLaw2eSampleSlides.pptx?srsltid=AfmBOorgozafe-3qdfPZWokXIkbHrjVlc24oXyvHiavuaTYqFzCSSbZbNumbers Chapter 35
Do free education, paid work, and unconditional social support REALLY prevent crime? Find out as we travel to a far distant future where the answers to these questions can be found and vefifiably proven...like in the references below!!! Also, big thanks to Aries Beats for the amazing music used in this episode: https://youtu.be/Dcfaittfv8o?si=bZISGVD0uds-T7Yl Career Criminals, Superpredators, and What Everyone Gets Wrong About Crime https://youtu.be/8rLA-TidolY BEYOND BARS: Education Key to Lower Recidivism. Jeff Isabell-Taylor https://www.nlg.org/guild-notes/article/beyond-bars-education-key-to-lower-recidivism/#:~:text=Prisoners%20who%20achieve%20a%20high,a%20master's%20degree%20is%200%25. Preventing Recidivism Through Education. Tracy Giovanetti | TEDxHickory https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rK3x1jD4Nk Prison Education Reduces Recidivism. Christopher Zoukis, JD, MBA https://federalcriminaldefenseattorney.com/prison-education-facts/prison-education-reduces-recidivism/ A Better Path Forward for Criminal Justice. The Brooking Institute and The American Enterprise Institute https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Better-Path-Forward_Brookings-AEI-report.pdf What to know about attending college in prison. Heidi Rivera https://www.bankrate.com/loans/student-loans/attending-college-while-incarcerated/ THE LANDSCAPE OF HIGHER EDUCATION IN PRISON. Stephanie Gaskill, Mary R. Gould, Ved Price, Erin L. Castro, Amy Lerman https://assets-global.website-files.com/5e3dd3cf0b4b54470c8b1be1/6491de8e5d0081067689ab52_TheLandscapeofHigherEducationinPrison-2020-2021.pdf What the data says about crime in the U.S. John Gramlich https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/04/24/what-the-data-says-about-crime-in-the-us/#:~:text=Which%20kinds%20of%20crime%20are,violent%20crimes%20per%20100%2C000%20people. FBI:UCR 2019 Crime in the United States https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019 Breaches in the Wall: Imprisonment, Social Support, and Recidivism. Joshua C. Cochran https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Joshua-Cochran/publication/262010228_Breaches_in_the_Wall_Imprisonment_Social_Support_and_Recidivism/links/02e7e5365294f3ec10000000/Breaches-in-the-Wall-Imprisonment-Social-Support-and-Recidivism.pdf Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - Previously on The Shakedown... 00:22 - Welcome to THE FUTURE...of crime prevention 01:15 - Is There Evidence that Crime CAN BE Prevented? 02:31 - The Bipartisan Study on Crime Prevention 03:51 - Can Free Education Prevent Crime? 06:17 - How to get into College in Prison 11:54 - Breaking News....Prison Sucks 14:10 - Can Paid Work Prevent Crime? 17:18 - Is there slavery in prison? (A brief tangent) 19:39 - Does Unconditional Social Support Prevent Crime? 24:56 - Thank you! 26:09 - SECRET BONUS!!!
Malone and I continue you our discussion going into the topic of prison officers. Why do they support each other and what are some of the perks for them working in a prison. We also tell the story of Geesey, how he managed to get one over on the prison staff, and some of the consequences he has had to face because of it. If you want to see the start of our conversation, check out: https://youtu.be/6P4KEu2MmEw?si=ekMBnEo4zPB-LBWG Support The Shakedown at: / theshakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone: @they_call_me_malone 00:00 - Previously on...The Shakedown 00:49 - Why do prison officers ALWAYS have each others' backs? 05:28 - Geesey's Story 09:54 - What are out-of-compliance cases 12:14 - The purpose of the case system in prison 16:27 - How officers control case evidence
Malone stops by to discuss the philosophy of discussing crime. We discuss how important it is to change the conversation and the mindset that leads to the laws that make up the criminal legal system. We discuss crack, the history of trace cases, blue collar vs. white collar crimes, and our favorite drug movies. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone: @they_call_me_malone 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:39 - Welcome back to the show...Malone! 01:50 - How should we discuss crime? 04:18 - Homo-sapiens vs. Criminals 08:08 - Crack, Trace Cases, and Who is a Criminal 12:22 - Crack vs. Cocaine and Policing 14:56 - Supporting a blue collar drug habit vs. supporting a white collar drug habit 16:38 - The best drug movies 17:58 - How Chicago PD portrays policing 18:59 - Malone breaks down police procedurals
This video essay discusses the Delinquency in a Birth Cohort study(ies) which looked into the causes of recidivism. This essay looks to understand why the causes of recidivism are so important to understand, how that understanding helps us to understand crime as a whole, and why the study(ies) show that our fundamental understanding of crime is flawed. And how does that flaw lead to increased crime. Recommended shows: Some More News: https://www.youtube.com/@UCvlj0IzjSnNoduQF0l3VGng Skip Intro: https://www.youtube.com/@UCKUm503onGg3NatpBtTWHkQ Münecat: https://www.youtube.com/munecat HBomberguy: https://www.youtube.com/@UClt01z1wHHT7c5lKcU8pxRQ Zoe Bee: https://www.youtube.com/@UCecF2icZlEIJ__9XS6woPGw Folding Ideas: https://www.youtube.com/@@UCyNtlmLB73-7gtlBz00XOQQ Also forgot to mention: Second Thought: https://www.youtube.com/@UCJm2TgUqtK1_NLBrjNQ1P-w Innuendo Studios: https://www.youtube.com/@UC5fdssPqmmGhkhsJi4VcckA Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life References for this video: Delinquency in a Birth Cohort Wolfgang, Marvin E. https://search.worldcat.org/title/1200289388 THE COMING OF THE SUPER — PREDATORS, John DiLulio https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/magazine/1558817/the-coming-of-the-super-predators/ What Really Lowers Crime - Nevada Department of Sentencing Policy https://sentencing.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/sentencingnvgov/content/Meetings/2022/08.24.22%20NSC%20Mtg.%20Agenda%20Item%208%20PFJ%20What%20Really%20Lowers%20Crime.pdf A Better Path Forward for Criminal Justice - Brookings Institute https://www.brookings.edu/articles/a-better-path-forward-for-criminal-justice/ Cumulative Prevalence of Arrest From Ages 8 to 23 in a National Sample, January 11 2012 James P. Smith https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article-abstract/129/1/21/31558/Cumulative-Prevalence-of-Arrest-From-Ages-8-to-23?redirectedFrom=fulltex Prison Reform: Reducing Recidivism by Strengthening the Federal Bureau of Prisons https://www.justice.gov/archives/prison-reform Clips at the end of the video: Scott Budnick - Reducing Recidivism through Connection and Community https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9slBJaSka4g Preventing Recidivism Through Education https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rK3x1jD4Nk Criminal Justice Reform https://www.c-span.org/video/?433121-1/criminal-justice-reform Prison: hot to break the cycle of reoffending? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBUSzXvMWCk Criminology: The Core 5th Edition by Larry J. Siegel https://www.amazon.com/Criminology-Core-Larry-J-Siegel/dp/1285068904 00:00 - Who talks about career criminals, repeat offenders, and superpredators 00:09 - Why do we need to talk about chronic offenders? 01:01 - Introduction to Delinquency in Birth Cohort 01:29 - The Study 01:38 - What is a "cohort"? 02:33 - What is the etiology of crime? 03:24 - What the birth cohort actually studied 03:55 - The Question 04:00 - Why is studying recidivism so important 04:29 - Rainforest's fantasy of a world that understands recidivism 05:24 - Tough on Crime 06:05 - The Findings 06:11 - What the birth cohort study actually discovered about recidivism 07:23 - Was this just one study? 08:36 - Superpredators 09:05 - Who is John DiLulio and where did the phrase "superpredators" come from? 10:23 - Moral Poverty and The Crime Bill 12:10 - The Crime Bill and Mass Incarceration 12:36 - What Everyone REALLY Gets Wrong 12:41 - Should we punish MORE people? 13:58 - Punishment causes crime 15:56 - Oh, So Now I CAN'T Burn Witches 16:28 - What helps, what doesn't, and who to vote for 21:38 - Thank you, suggestions, and outro
Max Brandel of Brandel Counseling continues his discussion about his experience working as a counselor for inmates inside of prisons. In this episode, we focus on incentives. How do incentives affect prosecutors, defendants, inmates, and voters. We also discuss how incentives can be used to help rehabilitate inmates as they transition out of prison. Find Max Brandel at: https://www.better-relationships.work/ Recidivism rates: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/graphs/sex_offense_recidivism_2019.html Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - How District Attorney success is measured? 04:44 - Why are pleas so powerful in the criminal justice system? 09:07 - What is the practicality of harsh consequences? 12:00 - Education, college especially, in prison 13:54 - All the selfish and not-so selfish reasons to take care of prisoners 15:15 - What helps rehabilitate inmates? 18:43 - What problems were especially prevalent in prisons? 20:52 - The therapeutic power of unconditional kindness 22:29 - What can be improved about prisons? 25:56 - How to find Max
Max Brandel of Brandel Counseling talks about his experience working as a counselor for inmates inside of prisons. Max talks about his expectations about prisons, his expectations of inmates, what he learned as a counselor, and what we all can learn from his time as a prison counselor. Find Max Brandel at: https://www.better-relationships.work/ Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - Who is Max Brandel? 06:40 - Did a lack of fear inspire a career in corrections? 09:08 - First impresstions of prison 10:16 - Do inmates assault visitors? 12:51 - Does anybody WANT to be in prison? 15:02 - What counseling practices inside prisons would be helpful outsde prisons? 18:05 - What were the lessons learned from prison?
Brandon talks about working in the prison library. We discuss office hustles in prison, what prison libraries are like, the importance of good coworkers in prison, banned prison books, and, as always, the mailroom. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:39 - Meet Brandon 02:07 - What is a prison library like? 04:37 - The importance of policing books 06:32 - What books get banned in Texas prisons 09:45 - What is urban fiction? 11:40 - What are the most popular book genres in prisons? 13:33 - Inmate jobs and the hustling economy 15:11 - The importance of good coworkers in prison 19:07 - Are there banned books in the library? 21:03 - Getting books through the mail in prison 21:41 - Why inmates should always appeal banned books 23:15 - Binding books...in prison? 28:01 - When officers ask inmates for weapons 30:24 - What is Brandon up to now?
We talk about how gaining respect and resolving conflict works inside and outside prisons. We also go into the hustler mentality and challenges staying out of prison. Listen to Joy's story: https://youtu.be/xcAF_4v8PTk Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - Start 00:13 - Joy on taking ownership as a woman 02:10 - The importance of money and staying out of jail 04:54 - The problem with a hustler mentality 08:12 - Getting tested in the free world 09:51 - The difference between prison conflicts and free world conflicts 22:15 - What scared Rainforest the most in prison?
We follow up our conversation with Joy, going more into her story. We discuss the value the snitches and how difficult it is to discuss your life after jail and prison. Listen to Joy's story: https://youtu.be/xcAF_4v8PTk Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - Start 00:13 - The Backstory on Joy's Story 01:41 - Definitions of Third Ward, TYC, and more from the story 04:44 - The importance of Joy's step-father 08:00 - The difficulties of discussing a criminal past 09:06 - When family is a bad influence 10:40 - What happened with the marijuana business? 12:00 - Why you SHOULD snitch 17:37 - The difference between snitching and looking for help 20:31 - What "treatment" means in different places
Joy (pseudonym) tells her story of dealing with addiction and the criminal justice system, as well as some of her family's story. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - Start 00:12 - How Rainforest Met Joy 01:09 - The background of Joy's story 05:21 - Joy meets her first boyfriend and Xanax 10:00 - The Race War at Lee High School 12:27 - Life in addiction as a runaway 14:59 - The start of dealing with jails 17:04 - Underage stripping and drug dealing 19:17 - Getting jumped and left for dead in Third Ward 25:11 - The dangers of going to TYC (juvenile detention) 29:20 - Men and "safety"
We conclude our discussion of criminal justice solutions with Zelina Chinwow. This time we get into the different methods of rehabilitation currently offered..including slavery. More about Zelina at: https://healingexperiencenow.com/ @thehealingexperiencenow Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, BlueSky, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:39 - Does the justice system care about YOU? 02:16 - Rehabilitation as a solution 09:56 - On the ground interventions 13:28 - Individuals committing crimes vs. governments committing crimes 15:24 - Slavery and prisons 18:10 - What it's like working as a slave
We continue our discussion of criminal justice solutions with Zelina Chinwow. This time we get into politics, the consequences of genralized sentencing, and who can be counted as victims of crime. More about Zelina at: https://healingexperiencenow.com/ @thehealingexperiencenow Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:39 - Getting a mugshot and becoming presdident 02:43 - Looking at candidates when it comes to criminal justice 07:19 - The consequences of generalized sentencing 13:59 - How everyone touched by crime is a victim
In this episode Dave and I start a discussion with Zelina Chinwow about potential improvements to the criminal justice system. More about Zelina at: https://healingexperiencenow.com/ Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:37 - Meet Zelina 02:34 - The similarities between inmates and service members 04:44 - Our thoughts on the current justice system 12:26 - Living an Unapologetic Life
We wrap up our discussion about bail bonds and the criminal justice system with attorney Ken Good. We focus start out on mass incarceration and then move to the importance of mindsets. Lookout for a wrap-up episode to go into more details about this conversation. More about Ken Good at: https://pbtx.com https://thebailpost.com Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 More about Ken Good at: https://pbtx.com https://thebailpost.com Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - Do we need the criminal justice system as it is if it isn't working? 01:23 - Does mass incarceration work? 05:19 - The pendulum of mindsets 09:14 - The importance of education 20:48 - The differences between rehabilitation and prison
We continue our discussion about bail bonds and the criminal justice system with attorney Ken Good. This week we get into personal stories of addiction; Malone explains why changes to the system are far more difficult to fight for than reforms; and Ken Good explains the how reglations led to Buy One, Get One Free...Murders... More about Ken Good at: https://pbtx.com https://thebailpost.com Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - How does the 8th Ammendment impact jail bonds? 01:13 - Trying cases during the COVID-19 pandemic 02:07 - What crimes are closing down buildings? 03:41 - On safe space to use drugs and addiction treatment 05:37 - Our personal experiences with addiction and recovery 15:39 - Why it's difficult to argue for better criminal justice solutions
This week we start a series of conversations with Texas Attorney Ken Good about bail bonds and the criminal justice system. We ask if we need bonds and what parts of the criminal justice system we need or think work well . Today we introduce Ken and discuss what bail bonds are and some of the different varieties of bonds. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 00:40 - Who is Ken Good? 03:26 - Ken Good on why we need cash bonds 07:26 - What are jail bonds and what are the different types? 10:30 - Does decriminilization reduce crime? 15:40 - What does ken Good see as a perfect criminal justice system? 17:21 - What are the penalties for PR bonds?
We look at ways to improve prisons and mental healthcare with Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast. We discuss the tactics that individuals can do to help ensure everyone can get help instead of end up in jails and prisons. 988 Crisis Line: https://988lifeline.org/ Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espresso The Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespresso https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3A https://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8P Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - What is The Shakedown? 00:40 - What can people do to improve the mental health system? 03:16 - What is the importance of personal attitude and local candidates? 09:21 - What if the people in power won't listen? 16:48 - What to do when you experience a personal crisis
We continue our discussion of mental healthcare in prisons with Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast. We discuss the availability of mental healthcare in prisons, each of our personal experiences, what it takes to get healthcare, and what healthcare actually looks like for an inmate. Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espresso The Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespresso https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3A https://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8P Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - Start 00:40 - What was the access to mental healthcare in prison? 02:01 - Mental Healthcare in Texas Prisons in the '90s 05:04 - Who provides healthcare in prisons? 07:09 - How do we affect change in mental healthcare? 07:58 - The stigma associated with a borderline diagnosis 11:23 - Practical ways to affect real world changes for mental healthcare 14:52 - What are Civil Commitments? 16:27 - Treating vs. Medicating in prison 17:53 - Medications vs. Therapy 21:30 - How Prison Psychiatrists Work
Heather of the Hot Mess Espresso podcast joins The Shakedown to discuss Mental Health and Criminal Justice. We get into addiction, toxic masculinity, coping strategies, and even...Ben David? Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hotmess.espresso The Hot Mess Espresso Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@hotmessespresso https://open.spotify.com/show/3ZtgmIbVyIHMa914qzni3A https://tr.ee/QiSv9zWB8P About the Colorado Center for Dependency, Addiction, and Rehabilitation: https://www.cedarcolorado.org/ Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - About The Shakedown 01:02 - Meet Heather and the Hot Mess Espresso 01:53 - Mental Health and Incarceration 04:04 - Lightbulb's Story 05:32 - Mental Health and Recidivism 07:09 - Asking for help with mental health issues 09:27 - The cost of living and mental health 10:08 - Mental health "services" in prison 13:07 - The advantages of addiction treatment 17:48 - Mentally being prepared for release from prison 20:04 - More about addiction
Rainforest asks the question, "What does it REALLY mean to make an appeal?" We discuss what that means inside and outside of prison and what it means for those with and without money. We also get into the idea of culpability and how that ties into harsher sentencing for youth offenders. We finish the episode by asking Malone, "What does Starbucks taste like after 30 years in prison?" Crime Statistics from 1960's-2001 from the US Bureau of Justice Statistics: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_Crime_rates_per_capita_1970-2001,_GAO_Chart.png Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted10 00:00 - Introduction to The Shakedown 01:02 - An awkward opening... 01:59 - How do appeals work? 04:45 - Trying to legally kill someone...twice? 06:50 - Our feelings on vengeance and criminal justice 08:44 - How do appeals work...when you don't have money 12:10 - The culpability of youth offenders 16:32 - Increased sentencing for juveniles 20:08 - What you get released from prison with 21:39 - What it was like for Malone getting released after 30 years
Dave and Rainforest continue to discuss cellies (cellmates). In this episode, "house mice", what can get you a solitary cell and what that looks like, suicide watch, the politics required for having a cellie, and the type of people who take the job as prison officer. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - The Shakedown is Back! 00:48 - Our Patreon Page! 01:13 - About The Shakedown 02:15 - More bad cellies! 03:24 - The Importance of Privacy 05:18 - House Mouses (Cellies who never leave) 09:26 - How to deal with cellmates 10:40 - Getting Punished Because of Your Cellie 11:21 - The dangers of politics in prison 13:17 - What will get you G5'ed or sent to solitary? 16:53 - What is the real danger of solitary confinement? 18:40 - What suicide watch looks like in prison 22:14 - Philemon's Story 25:20 - What it's like getting gassed 27:02 - What it takes to get gassed 27:41 - Who becomes a prison officer?
When people ask who makes money off prisons, our number one answers goes to the people running the phone system. On this episode, we explain how the prison phones operate, who runs them, and who ends up paying the tab (it might be you!). About Securus: https://securustech.online/ The Texas Tribune article about prison phones: https://www.texastribune.org/2011/01/12/prison-phones-generate-less-money-than-hoped/#:~:text=Credit%3A%20Todd%20Wiseman-,Texas%20prisoners%20have%20made%20and%20received%20more%20than%204.7%20million,phone%20and%20e%2Dmail%20access. The positive impacts of contact from loved ones while people are incarcerated: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2021/12/21/family_contact/#:~:text=Consistent%20phone%20calls%20to%20family%20improve%20relationships&text=As%20with%20visitation%2C%20family%20phone,odds%20of%20returning%20to%20prison. More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - Start 00:12 - Introductions 00:34 - Today's topic: The Phones in Prisons 00:58 - Why talk about prison phones 05:00 - Dave's history of prison phones 06:22 - The disadvantages of phones in prisons 07:28 - How many facilities have Securus 11:28 - Where do inmate cell phones come from? 12:17 - Getting phones n medium custody 14:40 - Who owns Securus? 15:19 - Securus' value and the year it skyrocketed 16:22 - Guess who owns JPay (and profits off all inmate's communication from loved ones in most states) 17:05 - Who makes money off of prisons? 18:16 - The argument for and against getting rid of physical mail in prisons 21:20 - Prison contraband even during COVID 22:09 - How charging for phone calls and searching mail increasing recidivism 25:36 - Why prison phone calls should be free
Dave and Rainforest discuss the ins and outs (literally) of cellies (cellmates). In this episode, we discuss misconceptions we have heard and topics that we don't hear discussed outside prisons. Support The Shakedown at: https://www.patreon.com/TheShakedown More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press The Shakedown on IG, Threads, FB, or TikTok: @gettheshakedown More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - We're back! 00:44 - Our Patreon Page! 01:14 - About The Shakedown 02:15 - Let's talk about cellies! 03:41 - Is "finding a cellie" like "dating"? 04:16 - Are cellies like college dormmates? 05:08 - What is life with a cellmate like? 06:29 - Ins and Outs and Cellies 08:34 - What are Ins and Outs in prison? 10:26 - Fights between cellies 12:10 - Dogs, Routines, and how the state creates chaos 15:30 - "Common courtesy" in prison? 16:18 - How to use a bathroom in prison 17:49 - Waste in prison (other than humans) 18:50 - What's a REAL BAD cellie? 20:48 - Getting STUCK in the cell
As we attempt to discuss the issues and costs of prison transportation, we run into some connection issues and Malone starts telling stories from his 30 years in prison. First, he discusses the an inmate's ultimate revenge against a field boss. Then he discusses how inmates took advantage of a prison transport and tried to assassinate another inmate in front of a bus full of officers and inmates. More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull Ryan/Rainforest on IG: @lorax4life Malone on IG: @they_call_me_malone Dave on IG: @sociallydistorted1 00:00 - What is going on with this episode and The Shakedown? 04:05 - Let's talk about prison transportation, baby! 05:55 - How much can you take in prison transport 08:24 - The number of moves, just to get processed in prison 14:27 - Here goes the connection... 16:00 - The prison showers at the Darrington Unit 16:52 - An inmate's ultimate revenge (Malone Story Time Pt. 1) 20:58 - Assaults on TDCJ prison transports (Malone Story Time Pt. 2)
We discuss how the parole process works, specifically in Texas. We also get into who is making money in prisons and how it gets wasted inside and around prisons. Texas Pardons and Parole Guidelines: https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/bpp/parole_guidelines/parole_guidelines.html More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull
We continue our talk about about the history of Texas prisons, the David Witt case, PREA, extortion in the "bad old days" of Texas prisons, heart checks, and the parole algorithm. We get into the nitty-gritty of the PABLO scale (and get some of it wrong, link below) and how it is used to determine if inmates are eligible for parole. We cover a lot of information and if you want to look more into any of what we talk about, check out the links below. How old is the Darrington Unit: https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/news/tdcj_renames_facilities.html#:~:text=In%201917%2C%20the%20Darrington%20Unit,of%20over%2019%2Dhundred%20inmates. How old is the Ramsey Unit: https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/unit_directory/r1.html The David Witt Case: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7571957/Texas-prison-sergeant-not-guilty-aggravated-assault-inmates-death.html Texas Pardons and Parole Guidelines: https://www.tdcj.texas.gov/bpp/parole_guidelines/parole_guidelines.html How the PABLO Scale got its name: https://www.nytimes.com/1983/12/11/us/texas-using-a-new-formula-to-guide-its-prison-releases.html More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull
As the gang starts planning out an episode, we discover that Malone and Rainforest have some pretty major differences in political ideology. Dave discovers a great way to bring the conversation back to reality by focusing on what the current issues in prisons. We discuss heat in prisons and the goods that TCI (Texas Correctional Industries) sells using inmate slave labor. More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pit bull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull 00:00 - Introduction 00:12 - The list of Trump's current indictments 01:27 - About Trump's Classified Document Charge 08:35 - Our Opinions of Tump vs. Biden 12:30 - Dave does a reality check by pointing out some of the biggest issues in prisons today 13:28 - Let's talk about heat in prisons 14:02 - TCI's list of prison slave made products (that they sell) 15:27 - Number Heat Related Deaths in Texas prisons Recorded so far in 2023 19:22 - The first twenty years of heat deaths in Texas prisons in the new millennium
On this very special episode, we have on Paul Buckley and Ramses Merriman of the Baumy Group to discuss the TOWR, a digital billboard system used to provide information to people in jails and their families. We discuss what information people are looking for in jail, how the TOWR can help distribute that information in a more fair manner, and how powerful information is at any stage of incarceration. More about the TOWR at: jailtowr.com More about the Baumy Group at: https://www.baumygroup.com/You can reach the Baumy Group at: sales@baumygroup.comIf you would like to reach out to our guests:Ramses Merriman.Sales Manager. rmerriman@baumygroup.comPaul Buckley.Business Development.pbuckley@baumygroup.comMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull
Even in prison inmates can get locked up in administrative segregation, or get new charges to extend their sentence. We explain how the court system in prison is drastically different and far more terrifying than the one outside of prisons. Link to the story about the case of the officer's planting the screwdriver: https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/4-Texas-prison-officials-indicted-after-alleged-13064474.phpLink to the story about case quotas: https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Texas-prisons-More-than-500-inmate-disciplinary-12984923.phpMore about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull
Part 2 of Malone's live, in-studio discussion. In this part, Malone tells stories of his experiences of how prison has actually made life more dangerous for all of us, everyday. More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.showFind Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.pressMore about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull
Malone is LIVE in the studio discussing prison abuses he witnessed and heard about while locked up. He discusses the special unit for officers and friends of people in power when they get into too much trouble. And he also tells some REALLY inappropriate jokes. So sorry about that. 00:00 - Sorry, this isn't G.G. Allen 00:12 - We welcome a guest host to the studio 01:09 - A Warning About this Episode 04:45 - As always, The Shakedown is looking for sponsors 06:39 - Taking the high road doesn't always work 08:25 - Malone finally comes clean 09:27 - Longmont is amazing! 11:27 - About the talk at University of Colorado at Colorado Springs 13:40 - "Nobody is free until we all are free" 17:09 - The Mindset of Punishment and the Prison Unlike Any Other in Texas 21:20 - What we're fighting for
It's difficult to discuss prisons and criminal without discussing intersectional issues like race and gender. In this episode, Rainforest argues that race and other issues distract from finding solutions to the problems with the criminal justice system. Can we put these issues to bed in less than 30 minutes? Listen and you can decide! More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull 00:00 - Introduction to The Shakedown on Intersectional Issues 00:37 - What are Intersectional Issues? 01:38 - Why Rainforest does not focus on race when talking about prisons 03:24 - Rainforest on How Race and Gender Distract from Key Courtroom Issues 04:47 - How Race Makes Things Easier 08:17 - Malone voices his doubts and reasons why Intersectional Issues are important to discuss 09:15 - How Adding the History of Racism to a Criminal Justice Makes Criminal Justice More Difficult to Discuss 11:47 - The Venn Diagram of Race and Criminal Justice Issues 12:38 - Rainforest's Memories of Racism in Prison 14:21 - Housing by Race in Prison 16:01 - Immigrant Officers and African American Inmates 17:33 - Malone explains how not liking how someone represents you is not racism (hard to hear, sorry) 18:42 - Everyone gets distracted by Nina 19:18 - Is Malone Playing with the dog? COMMENT BELOW!!! 22:10 - Rainforest's Face Tattoo Story 24:30 - Rainforest brings it back home, did race discussions help resolve anything with criminal justice? 24:53 - And Malone comes back with some humility 26:13 - See you next time, Space Cow-Person!
The prodigal podcast returns with discussions about what we were up to whil we were away and ideas for the future of The Shakedown. We also get into how far we have come since our time on the streets and how grateful we are for the people we have become. More about The Shakedown at: https://shakedown.show Find Shakedown merch and support us at: https://wayword.press More about Nina the Pitbull at: @nina_is_a_pitbull 00:00 - Welcome back to The Shakedown! 00:56 - What is the dress code in prison? 02:00 - What has been happening since The Shakedown's been away? 02:47 - @nina_is_a_pitbull 04:23 - The Shakedown's work with criminal justice moving forward 05:18 - More podcasts from Wayword Press? 06:34 - Dave on how far he's come 08:42 - Who we used to be 12:01 - What is the Recovery Café Longmont? 13:39 - Certifications in prison 18:27 - The importance of shared experience 20:14 - Why do people go BACK to prison? 22:46 - Barnaby's in Texas (We're looking for sponsors!) 24:02 - What is the difference between and ex-con and a future recidivist? 26:14 - How to get rid of a wild dog
We know we have been slack ing but a lot has been happening. This is just a short catch oup episode before we release more record some brand new episodes! More on The Shakedown at: http://shakedown.show Find our merch at: http://wayword.press 00:00 - Start 00:33 - Where were we? 00:41 - Malone really wants a free shirt 01:39 - the full story on why Malone wants his shirt 02:21 - The Shakedown's sunglasses of solidarity 03:51 - And on a serious note... 04:48 - To be continued!
Discussing prison abolition often feels like an uphill battle, especially with people unfamiliar with the concept or unsure why criminals deserve empathy at all. In this episode, Malone plays devil's advocate as Rainforest defends prison abolition. Rainforest gets the stats wrong, but he explains a different perspective on prison abolition so that YOU can start discussing prison abolition. Since Rainforest got the stats wrong, this will be part 1 of a series talking about prison abolition. The next in the series will specifically discuss the correct numbers so that you can have an accurate idea of what Rainforest was trying to describe with the incarceration and reoffending numbers. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press Timestamps 0:00 Shakedown Intro 2:00 How to talk about prison abolition 3:20 Why do we let criminals out of prison 7:20 Should we protest the death penalty? 12:20 Are we just letting inmates go? 13:45 Security is NOT Convenient 18:50 Treatment vs. prison 21:30 Will more people get hurt in a world without prisons? 30:25 Do criminals DESERVE to be treated better? 35:55 Bridges to Life and learning from victims 40:00 Good Christians listen to The Shakedown 41:30 How wanting criminals suffer makes everyone suffer 43:00 What babies have been getting away with for way too long... 44:08 What's coming up at The Shakedown!
We finally finish explaining what happened to Rainy's yearly commitment and how it changed. And by the end of the episode, Malone gets Rainforest on a tirade so bad that he worries it will threaten the rest of the show! More about us at: https://shakedown.show Get our merch at: https://wayword.press Timestamps: 0:00 Intro and recap 6:00 What Rainforest should say instead of accepting responsibility 7:50 What happened to Rainy's commitment? 10:15 What happens if you violate parole or probation? 15:00 Thank you Colorado 17:30 What happened to Rainy's commitment...really? 19:30 The attitude of the judge vs the DA 23:30 Why Rainforest feels the judge was not listening 26:45 Why MADD is evil 29:45 Closing thoughts
Malone asks the questions this week as we find out updates on Rainforest's yearly commitment as well as what it takes to make changes to a condition of parole in Collin County, TX. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find The Shakedown merch at: https://wayword.press Timestamps 0:00 Introduction 3:00 Do you have to hire a lawyer to change your commitment? 7:40 What does being on parole and probation at the same time mean? 13:50 Is it unusual to start parole after prison? 15:20 Excessive Sentences and Unpredictable Sentences 17:00 Creative sentencing in Texas 21:30 Is punishment helpful? 26:30 Closing
On this very special episode of The Shakedown, Rainforest, Malone, and Dave all hang out to discuss their achievements since getting out of prison. Of course, Malone thinks he doesn't have any so most of the episode is spent trying to convince Malone that, yes, he has actually accomplished something. Also, Dave apparently has really bad gas. Links: The Shakedown at Fan Expo: https://youtu.be/JKuFURggDPs More about The Shakedown: https://shakedown.show Shop our merch and support our show: https://wayword.press Timestamps 0:00 Opening 0:14 Introductions to Rainforest, Malone, and Dave 1:30 What have we accomplished 2:18 What has Malone accomplished 3:25 What has Rainforest accomplished 4:10 The Shakedown welcomes all sponsors 5:30 Who is Moe?...maybe 6:35 What is Wayword Press and Warp Ranger? 10:00 The Shakedown at Fan EXPO 13:20 Who is Moe?...finally 15:30 Is it all about who you know? 19:00 Why couldn't Moe get a job? 23:00 Is job success based on merit or who you know? 24:00 The formula for job success 27:30 Dave explains why you join a fraternity 28:45 Let's see Rainforest's prison fist bump 30:00 Closing
We continue our discussion about the ideal criminal justice system by discussing how to prevent corruption from taking our ideal rehabilitation system and turning it back into prison camps. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
In this multi-part discussion, Rainforest explains to Malone why the "lock 'em up" rhetoric hurts society. He discusses how he feels prison, policing, and attitudes need to change to reduce crime and make a safer world. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
Malone and Rainforest dive into everyone's favorite rape elimination act - PREA. What it stands for, what it means, when it started, and when it actually hit Texas. Malone talks about life before and after PREA. And we talk about why some inmates miss, "The good ol' days." More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
Malone is back as we talk about the differences between maximum and medium security units in TDCJ. Malone tells some stories and -- as always -- we get sidetracked. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
David Brown guests hosts as Rainforest and Dave discuss the social hierarchies in prison. We discuss respect, disrespect, and everything in between. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
David Brown guests hosts as Rainforest and Dave discuss the social hierarchies in prison. We discuss respect, disrespect, and everything in between. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
Rainforest is on his own telling stories about life on the Trusty Camp and why the hardest part of your sentence is right as your are about to head back out into the free world. More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press
Inmates love to watch people get arrested and go to jail. What are their favorite shows? And how are those shows influencing our society? All this will be discussed in our latest episode. Plus, should you listen to or watch True Crime shows? And why are they not really "true"? More about us at: https://shakedown.show Find our merch at: https://wayword.press