The Two Testaments

Thanks for ListeningThank you for joining us on Season 1 of The Two Testaments. Ten scholars guided us through the book of Job, and eleven scholars led us through Paul's letter to the Romans. We hope you have enjoyed—and benefitted from—this guided journey through Scripture.As we develop and produce Season 2, we would love to hear from you.Win a $100 Gift CardPlease complete this survey for your chance to win a $100 gift card for Bookshop.org. Your feedback will help us improve the podcast as we develop Season 2 of The Two Testaments. Coming this Fall: Season 2 of The Two TestamentsThis fall (2022) we will release Season 2 of The Two Testaments. We will take you on a guided journey through Deuteronomy and the Gospel of Matthew. In the coming months, we will introduce you to the experts who will guide us through these books. Stay tuned!Wishing you all the best for the summer, Rony and WillVisit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, listen to all the episodes, and meet our guides through Job and Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 16 is LiveJoin us for our season finale as Dr. Beverly Gaventa (Baylor University) talks to us about the women that appear in Romans 16. We discuss a number of things including: the women who appear in the list of names at the end of Paul's letter; Phoebe's role in relaying Paul's letter to the Romans; and if Junia was an apostle.Relevant books by Beverly GaventaThis post contains affiliate linksWhen in Romans: An Invitation to Linger with the Gospel According to Paul. Baker Academic, 2018.Our Mother St. Paul. Westminster John Knox, 2007.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Beverly Gaventa recommends:The Freedom app.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Join us as Carol A. Newsom (Candler School of Theology) talks to us about Job's response and the epilogue in Job 42. We discuss a number of things including: how to understand Job's enigmatic response to God, why the translation of 42:6 in your English Bible is likely wrong, God's surprising approval of Job's speech, how the epilogue fits (or doesn't) with the rest of the book, why readers find it disturbing, Job's re-embrace of life, and the significance of Job's daughters.Relevant Work by Carol NewsomThis post contains affiliate linksCarol Newsom is the author of numerous influential works, including two particularly relevant to our discussion:“The Book of Job.” Pages 317–637 in 1 & 2 Maccabees, Introduction to Hebrew Poetry, Job, Psalms. New Interpreters Bible 4. Abingdon, 1996. The Book of Job: A Contest of Moral Imaginations. Oxford University Press, 2003.This Week's BlurbIn this episode, Carol Newsom recommends:Chödrön, Pema. When Things Fall Apart: Heart Advice for Difficult Times. Shambhala, 2016. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Recent world events have raised with a new intensity the question of how to respond to unjust suffering. This conversation with Dr. Tremper Longman (Westmont College) on Job's complaints addresses that very issue, so we're re-releasing it this week. We hope you find it helpful.From the ArchivesJoin us as Dr. Tremper Longman (Westmont College) talks to us about Job 6–7. We discuss a number of things including: the translation of Job, the book's connections with ancient Near Eastern texts, Job's bold complaints, and the merits of lament as a response to suffering.Relevant Work by Tremper LongmanTremper Longman is the author of stacks of books, including two particularly relevant to our discussion:Job. Baker Commentary on the Old Testament Wisdom and Psalms. Baker Academic, 2012.The Fear of the Lord is Wisdom: A Theological Introduction to Wisdom in Israel. Baker Academic, 2017.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Tremper Longman recommends:Tisby, Jemar. The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church's Complicity in Racism. Zondervan, 2019. McCauley, Esau. Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope. IVP Academic, 2020.The TV show, WandaVision, directed by Matt Shakman, starring Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeWalton, John and Tremper Longman III. How to Read Job. IVP Academic, 2015. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on 15:14–16:27 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Rafael Rodriguez (Johnson University) talks to us about Romans 15:14–16:27. We discuss a number of things including: (1) Paul's priestly ministry of the Gentiles; (2) the ethnicity of Paul's audience.Books by Rafael RodriguezThis post contains affiliate linksDr. Rodriguez is the author and co-editor of these two relevant books:If You Call Yourself a Jew: Reappraising Paul's Letter to the Romans. Cascade Books, 2014.ed. with Matthew Thiessen. The So-Called Jew in Paul's Letter to the Romans. Fortress Press, 2016.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Rafael Rodriguez recommends HBO's:“Mare of Easttown,” starring Kate Winslet, Julianne Nicholson, and Guy Pearce.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on the Divine Speeches in Job is LiveJoin us as William P. Brown (Columbia Theological Seminary) guides us through the wonders of the divine speeches in Job. We discuss a number of things, including: the speeches' anti-creational move from order to chaos, the connection between creation and God's covenant name, the whirlwind-like “logophany” of God's words, the nature of God's rebuke, its use of rhetorical questions, God's care for and pride in the animals that appear, Behemoth and Leviathan, and Job's response.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away a copy of a Bill Brown's book on wisdom (thanks to Eerdmans):Wisdom's Wonder: Character, Creation, and Crisis in the Bible's Wisdom Literature. Eerdmans, 2014.To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, February 27 at 11:59 pm. USA only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Bill Brown recommends:The wisdom of Kevin Kling.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeMatitiahu Tsevat, The Meaning of the Book of Job and Other Biblical Studies: Essays on the Literature and Religion of the Hebrew Bible (New York: Ktav, 1980). This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 12–15 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Mike Bird (Ridley College) and Dr. Nijay Gupta (Northern Seminary) talk to us about Romans 12–15:13. We discuss a number of things including: Paul's cultic metaphors; Paul's ethics; why Paul enjoins obedience to the government; and the identity of the strong and the weak. Speaking of metaphors—scholarship on Paul's letters is likened to a UFC brawl and to New York City's smelly odors and lack of parking spaces.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away copies of books by Mike Bird and Nijay Gupta (thanks to Eerdmans):Mike Bird. An Anomalous Jew: Paul Among Jews, Greeks, and Romans. Eerdmans, 2016.Nijay Gupta. Paul and the Language of Faith. Eerdmans, 2020. To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, February 20 at 11:59 pm. USA only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Nijay Gupta recommends:Mike Bird. Romans. The Story of God Bible Commentary. Zondervan, 2016.Scot McKnight. Reading Romans Backwards: A Gospel of Peace in the Midst of Empire (Baylor University Press, 2021).Mike Bird recommends:Nijay Gupta. Paul and the Language of Faith. Eerdmans, 2020. Teresa Morgan. Roman Faith and Christian Faith: Pistis and Fides in the Early Roman Empire and Early Churches. Oxford University Press, 2017.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeBrian Rosner. Paul and the Law: Keeping the Commandments of God. IVP Academic, 2013.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 32–37Join us as Dominick S. Hernández (Talbot School of Theology) guides us through Elihu's Speeches in Job 32–37. We discuss a number of issues in this text, including: whether these chapters are a later addition, Elihu's contribution to the book, whether his words are reliable, his appeal to revelation, his misquotations of Job, and his anticipation of the divine speeches.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away copies of two of Hernández's books:Illustrated Job in Hebrew. GlossaHouse, 2020.Proverbs: Pathways to Wisdom. Abingdon, 2020.To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, February 13 at 11:59 pm. USA entries only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Dominick Hernández recommends:Greenstein, Edward. Job: A New Translation. Yale University Press, 2019.Hawley, Lance R. Metaphor Competition in the Book of Job. Vandenhoeck & Ruprecht, 2018.His blog post, “From Hippies to the Hood: How the Jesus People Movement Changed my Life.”Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeJanzen, J. Gerald. Job. Interpretation. John Knox Press, 1985.Smith, Cooper. Allusive and Elusive: Allusion and the Elihu Speeches of Job 32–37. Brill, 2022.  This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 9–11 is LiveJoin us as Dr. J. Ross Wagner (Duke Divinity School) talks to us about Romans 9–11. We discuss a number of things including: (1) if the Calvinism-Arminianism debates illuminate or obscure Paul's point in these chapters; (2) Paul's use of the metaphor of a foot race; (3) the meaning of “and so all Israel will be saved” (Rom 11:26).Essay by Ross WagnerThis post contains affiliate linksDr. Wagner is the author of a number of books. An especially helpful and accessible essay by Dr. Wagner is:“‘Enemies' Yet ‘Beloved' Still: Election and the Love of God in Romans 9–11” in God and Israel: Providence and Purpose in Romans 9–11. Edited by Todd D. Still (Baylor University Press, 2017). This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Ross Wagner recommends:Williams, Rowan. The Lion's World: A Journey into the Heart of Narnia (Oxford University Press, 2013).Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 29–31 Join us as Edward L. Greenstein (Bar Ilan University) guides us through Job's final discourse in Job 29–31. We discuss a number of things, including: Job's commitment to doing justice (and implicit accusation against for not doing likewise), his oath of innocence, and the passage's connection to other biblical texts and the role those connections play in translation.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away a copy of Ed Greenstein's book (thanks to Yale University Press):Job: A New Translation. Yale University Press, 2019.To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, January 30 at 11:59 pm. USA and international entries welcome (thanks, Yale University Press!).Other relevant work by Edward GreensteinThis post contains affiliate links“When your principles are at stake, take inspiration from Job.” Psyche. 7 July 2021.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Ed Greenstein recommends:reading the book of Job! This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 8:18–39 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Haley Jacob (Whitworth University) talks to us about Romans 8:18–39. We discuss a number of things including what it means to be “conformed to the image of his Son,” and what it means that humans have glory.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away a copy of Haley Jacob's book (thanks to IVP Academic):Conformed to the Image of His Son: Reconsidering Paul's Theology of Glory in Romans (IVP Academic, 2018).To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, January 23 at 11:59 pm. USA only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Haley Jacob recommends:Scot McKnight, Reading Romans Backwards: A Gospel of Peace in the Midst of Empire (Baylor University Press, 2021).Do-it-yourself window frosting.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job's “Redeemer” is Live Join us as Scott C. Jones (Covenant College) helps us “mine” the depths of the marvelous and mysterious wisdom poem in Job 28. We discuss a number of things, including: the speaker of the poem, its challenge to human self-confidence, its ancient Near Eastern background, the difficulty of translating its imagery (and translating in general), and its connections with the Epic of Gilgamesh (and space exploration).Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksJones wrote the article on Job in The Oxford Handbook of Wisdom and the Bible (ed. Will Kynes. Oxford University Press, 2021), so this week, thanks to Oxford University Press, we're giving away a copy of the whole handbook (a $150 value).To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, January 16 at 11:59 pm. USA and international entries welcome (thanks, OUP!).Relevant work by Scott JonesThis post contains affiliate linksRumors of Wisdom: Job 28 as Poetry. Beihefte zur Zeitschrift für die alttestamentliche Wissenschaft 398. De Gruyter, 2009.“Job.” In The Oxford Handbook of Wisdom and the Bible, ed. Will Kynes. Oxford University Press, 2021.“Job 28 and Modern Theories of Knowledge.” Theology Today 69 (2013): 486–96.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Scott Jones recommends:George, Andrew. The Epic of Gilgamesh. Penguin, 2003.Greenstein, Edward. Job: A New Translation. Yale University Press, 2020.Erickson, Amy. Jonah. Illuminations. Eerdmans, 2021.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeFox, Michael V. “The Speaker in Job 28.” Pages 21-38 in “When the Morning Stars Sang”: Essays in Honor of Choon Leong Seow on the Occasion of His Sixty-Fifth Birthday. Edited by Scott C. Jones and Christine Roy Yoder. De Gruyter, 2018. Lo, Alison. Job 28 as Rhetoric: An Analysis of Job 28 in the Context of Job 22-31. Brill, 2003. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 6–7 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Susan Eastman (Duke Divinity School) talks to us about Romans 7:1–8:17. We discuss a number of things including: the law, the infamous “I”, and Sin's agency.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away a copy of Susan Eastman's book (thanks to Eerdmans):Paul and the Person: Reframing Paul's Anthropology. Eerdmans, 2017.To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: follow us and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, December 19 at 11:59 pm. USA only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Susan Eastman recommends:Beverly Roberts Gaventa. “The Shape of the ‘I': The Psalter, the Gospel, and the Speaker in Romans 7.” Pages 77–92 in Apocalyptic Paul: Cosmos and Anthropos in Romans 5–8. Edited by Beverly Roberts Gaventa. Baylor University Press, 2019.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeSimon Gathercole. “Sin in God's Economy: Agencies in Romans 1 and 7.” Pages 158–172 in Divine and Human Agency in Paul and His Cultural Environment. Edited by John Barclay and Simon Gathercole. T&T Clark, 2008.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job's “Redeemer” is LiveJoin us as Brennan Breed (Columbia Theological Seminary) talks to us about Job's “Redeemer” in Job 9, 16, and 19. We discuss a number of things including: the translation of the famous passage in Job 19:25–27, its place in the book, the history of its interpretation, the metaphors it draws on, and its connections with passages elsewhere in the Bible, including Psalm 88, Jeremiah, Genesis 15–18, and Romans.Relevant work by Brennan BreedThis post contains affiliate linksNomadic Text: A Theory of Biblical Reception History. Indiana University Press, 2014.“Reading Job as a Kierkegaardian Text: The Incarnation of Indirect Communication.” Biblical Interpretation 24 (2016): 127–152.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Brennan Breed recommends:Jennings, Willie James. After Whiteness: An Education in Belonging. Eerdmans, 2020.Ellis Mandolins.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeBuechner, Frederick. Peculiar Treasures: A Biblical Who's Who. HarperOne, 1993.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 5–6 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Beverly Gaventa (Baylor University) talks to us about Romans 5–6. We discuss a number of things including: Paul's battle imagery; apocalyptic theology; universalism; and Sin and Death as powers.Enter the GiveawayThis week we are giving away this book by Beverly Gaventa (thanks to Baker Academic):When in Romans: An Invitation to Linger with the Gospel According to Paul. Baker Academic, 2018.To enter the giveaway, follow us and retweet our giveaway post on Twitter, or follow, like, and share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, November 5 at 11:59 pm. US Only.Relevant books by Beverly GaventaThis post contains affiliate linksWhen in Romans: An Invitation to Linger with the Gospel According to Paul. Baker Academic, 2018.Our Mother St. Paul. Westminster John Knox, 2007.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Beverly Gaventa recommends:The Freedom app.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 6–7 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Tremper Longman (Westmont College) talks to us about Job 6–7. We discuss a number of things including: the translation of Job, the book's connections with ancient Near Eastern texts, Job's bold complaints, and the merits of lament as a response to suffering.Relevant books by Tremper LongmanThis post contains affiliate linksJob. Baker Commentary on the Old Testament Wisdom and Psalms. Baker Academic, 2012.The Fear of the Lord is Wisdom: A Theological Introduction to Wisdom in Israel. Baker Academic, 2017.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Tremper Longman recommends:Tisby, Jemar. The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church's Complicity in Racism. Zondervan, 2019. McCauley, Esau. Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope. IVP Academic, 2020.The TV show, WandaVision, directed by Matt Shakman, starring Elizabeth Olsen and Paul Bettany.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeWalton, John and Tremper Longman III. How to Read Job. IVP Academic, 2015.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Sign up now so you don't miss an episode. Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 3–4 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Tom Schreiner (Southern Seminary) talks to us about Romans 3–4. We discuss a number of things including: justification by faith; Paul's depiction of sin; the phrase “works of the law”; and the New Perspective on Paul.Relevant Books by Tom SchreinerThis post contains affiliate linksRomans, Second Edition. Baker Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament. Baker Academic, 2018.Paul, Apostle of God's Glory in Christ: A Pauline Theology. IVP Academic, 2020.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Tom Schreiner recommends:Wallace Stegner, The Big Rock Candy MountainJohn Steinbeck, East of EdenOther Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeSchreiner, Thomas. “‘Works of Law' in Paul.” Novum Testamentum 33 (1991): 217–41.Dunn, James D. G. Romans 1–8. Word Biblical Commentary. Word Books, 1988.Dunn, James D. G. Romans 9–16. Word Biblical Commentary. Word Books, 1988.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, iHeart Radio, Amazon Music, and Pocket Casts. You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job's Friends is LiveThis post contains affiliate linksJoin us as Patricia Vesely of Memphis Theological Seminary talks to us about Job's friends, looking in particular at Eliphaz in chs. 4–5 and Zophar in ch. 11. Tricia is the author of Friendship and Virtue Ethics in the Book of Job (Cambridge University Press, 2019). In this episode, we discuss a number of things including: the significance of friendship in Job, what the friends get right and wrong, connections between Job and the Psalms, the friends' low view of humanity, and their emphasis on technique in relating to God.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Patricia Vesely recommends Samuel Balentine's Ecce Homo: Behold the Man. Ethical Imperatives of the Lenten Journey and Art and Faith: A Theology of Making by Makoto Fujimura.Other Books Mentioned in This EpisodeNemo, Philippe. Job and the Excess of Evil. Pittsburgh: Duquesne University Press, 1998.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 2 is LiveThis post contains affiliate linksJoin us as Dr. Matthew Thiessen of McMaster University talks to us about Romans 2. Matt is the author of Paul and the Gentile Problem. In this episode, we discuss a number of things including: the identity of the “you”; and the importance of “good works” for Paul.(Apologies for the audio quality in some parts of this episode.)This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Matthew Thiessen recommends Brittany Wilson's The Embodied God: Seeing the Divine in Luke-Acts and the Early Church.Other Books Mentioned in This EpisodeStowers, Stanley K. A Rereading of Romans: Justice, Jews, and Gentiles. Yale University Press, 1997.Thorsteinsson, Runar M. Paul's Interlocutor in Romans 2: Function and Identity in the Context of Ancient Epistolography. Wipf & Stock, 2015.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 3 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Jeff Leonard (Samford University) talks to us about Job 3. We discuss a number of things including: the pivotal role of Job 3 in the book, its connections with Genesis, Jeremiah, and ancient Near Eastern mythology, its rhetorical function, and its vision of the afterlife.Enter the Giveaway to Win a Free BookThis post contains affiliate linksThis week we are giving away a copy of Jeff Leonard's book, Creation Rediscovered: Finding New Meaning in an Ancient Story, Hendrickson, 2020. (Thanks to Hendrickson Publishers for the giveaway copy.)To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: like and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or like and share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, Oct 31st at 11:59 pm. USA and Canada only.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Jeff Leonard recommends Samuel Balentine's Have You Considered My Servant Job? Jeff also recommends the movie, Arrival, directed by Denis Villeneuve, starring Amy Adams, Jeremy Renner, and Forest Whitaker.Other Books and Articles Mentioned in This EpisodeFishbane, Michael. “Jeremiah IV 23–26 and Job III 3–13: A Recovered Use of the Creation Pattern.” Vetus Testamentum 21 (1971): 151–67.Leonard, Jeffery M. “Let the Day Perish: The Nexus of Personification and Mythology in Job 3.” Journal for the Study of the Old Testament 43 (2018): 247-270.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Romans 1 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Roy Ciampa (Samford University) and Dr. Frank Thielman (Beeson Divinity School) talk to us about Romans 1. We discuss a number of things including: the meaning of “gospel”; the difficult phrase, “the righteousness of God”; Paul's use of Habakkuk 2:4; and Paul's lengthy discussion of “the wrath of God.”Enter the Giveaway to Win Three BooksThis post contains affiliate links.This week we are giving away three books on Romans published by Zondervan. (Thanks to Zondervan for the giveaway copies.) You can win all three books:Frank Thielman. Romans. Zondervan Exegetical Commentary on the New Testament. Zondervan, 2018.Michael Bird. Romans. The Story of God Bible Commentary. Zondervan, 2016.Ben C. Blackwell et al., eds. Reading Romans in Context: Paul and Second Temple Judaism. Zondervan, 2015.To enter this giveaway, look out for the giveaway posts on social media: like and retweet the giveaway post on Twitter, or like and share the giveaway post on Facebook or on Instagram. Giveaway closes Sunday, Oct 24th at 11:59 pm.This Week's BlurbsIn this episode, Roy Ciampa recommends Frank Thielman's Romans commentary and Esau McCauley's Reading While Black.Frank Thielman recommends Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island and Daniel Block's, Covenant: The Framework of God's Grand Plan of Redemption.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Episode on Job 1–2 is LiveJoin us as Dr. Brent Strawn of Duke Divinity School talks to us about Job 1–2, the “prologue.”Strawn is the author of a number of books and articles, including The Old Testament is Dying: A Diagnosis and Recommended Treatment.This Week's BlurbIn this episode, Brent Strawn blurbs about horse mats. Yes, that's right—horse mats:We recently changed part of our garage into a home workout area. And flooring is an issue. You don't want to park your car on the flooring. The car will mess up the flooring. But not if you go with horse mats. I've found horse mats on line, and they will support a car, because they'll support a horse. And so, I'm really happy with these horse mats. . . . I recommend horse mats strongly. . . . I give it five stars on Amazon.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, Vurbl, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on Youtube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Meet Rony Kozman who introduces us to Paul's letter to the Romans and to the scholars who will guide us through Romans. Tune in to hear highlights from our guests.This episode's blurb is from Rony Kozman:Insightful, invigorating, delightful. The Two Testaments is sure to invite deep reflection, theological engagement, and invites some of the greatest guides to take you along on a walk through the Bible.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Romans.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch us on YouTube. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Meet Will Kynes who introduces us to the book of Job and to the scholars who will guide us through Job. Tune in to hear highlights from our guests.This episode's blurbs:A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life by George SaundersAn affordable massage gun by Taotronics (currently $54.99 with an additional $20 off coupon on Amazon). [Will has been using it for a week and it's been working great.]Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can subscribe, see our release schedule, and meet our guides through Job.Find us on Apple Podcasts, Google Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, and Pocket Casts.You can also watch on YouTube:Release schedule.Our guides through Job.Our guides through Romans. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com

Welcome to the Two Testaments—a guided journey through Scripture with leading experts on the Bible, hosted by Rony Kozman and Will Kynes. We interview scholars to discuss the meanings of verses, passages, and books of the Bible. Think of us as an audio Bible commentary—but more exciting!—where you get to hear scholars and practitioners trying to make sense of the Jewish and Christian Scriptures. This podcast is for all students of the Bible—pastors, Bible teachers, ministry leaders, students, and all who are curious about the Bible.Visit our website at thetwotestaments.com, where you can see our release schedule and meet our guides through Job and Romans.Release schedule.Our guides through Job.Our guides through Romans. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit thetwotestaments.substack.com