Moments that Matter

Scott Williams interviews Paul Shotsberger and David Conley about their new book Who Is Your Resilience Builder?: Loss, Friendship, and Creativity. Join us!

We're excited to continue our Books that Matter series this week, talking with Mary Campbell Huss Norman about the Fredrik Backman book Anxious People. MC is a Clemson graduate with a degree in English and is currently living and working in Tennessee. On this episode, MC shares her thoughts with Dr. Shotsberger from her recent journey through Anxious People. You will most certainly wish to check it out!

We are picking back up this week with part two of our discussion with Lauren Schaupp. Keeping in line with our current series, Books that Matter, Lauren shares a book that has been incredibly meaningful to her, Learning to Walk in the Dark by Barbara Brown Taylor. Listen in and discover why the difference between light and dark is not always as clear as we think and why there is some purpose to the darkness we all encounter, whether it be physical, metaphysical, emotional, spiritual, or psychological. For more information check out your own copy of Learning to Walk in the Dark and be sure to listen next week for the brilliant conclusion of this episode.

It is an honor to welcome back a previous and beloved guest to the podcast, Lauren Schaupp. In our last interview she described her experience hiking the Appalachian Trail in 2021 and is back to continue our current series, Books that Matter. This week Lauren shares a book that has been incredibly meaningful to her, Learning to Walk in the Dark by Barbara Brown Taylor. Listen in and discover why the difference between light and dark is not always as clear as we think and why there is some purpose to the darkness we all encounter, whether it be physical, metaphysical, emotional, spiritual, or psychological. For more information check out your own copy of Learning to Walk in the Dark and be sure to listen next week for the brilliant conclusion of this episode.

For those who have been following this podcast, this information will be familiar news but for others, this may be the first introduction to Dr. Paul Shotsberger's latest book: A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere. Several weeks ago Dr. Shotsberger was invited to the Rickman Library to share a summary of his new book, answer any questions, and read a selected passage or two. With this previously recorded session, you will hear new insights as well as new content and if you have not yet already read or reviewed this timely book, visit Amazon for your own copy of A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere.

Continuing with our recent series of Books that Matter, cohost Scott Williams shares one of his personal favorites, A Short and Easy Method of Prayer by Madame Jeanne Guyon. A longtime favorite author, Madame Guyon gained great notariety in the late 1600's with her passionate life of prayer and deep connection with God. Her work finally found her thrown into the Bastille for, as she stated, the crime of loving God too much. Her short work on prayer directs those hungry for greater intimacy with God to practical yet profound concepts of attainable and abiding prayer. Give it a read and you will be awfully glad that you did: A Short and Easy Method of Prayer.

As we continue our current series of Books that Matter, Dr. Paul Shotsberger provides his reaction and thoughts on Fredrik Backman and his novella, And Every Morning the Way Home Gets Longer and Longer. The book shares the moving tale of an aging grandpa and his interactions with his loving grandson, Noah. However, there's a bit of a twist to this story and the impact to its readers is promised to be significant. This is a book that carries a wealth of meaning to readers in each stage of life and you will no doubt derive your own as you read it for yourself. For more information on the book or to secure your own copy, you can find it at Amazon, or your favorite bookstore.

This week, as we embark on the second episode of our special series, Books that Matter, we have the great privilege of speaking with Dr. Jonathan Sircy. A dear friend, colleague, professor, and previous guest on this podcast, Dr. Sircy shares one of his favorite books, the J.D. Salinger novel, Franny and Zooey. Perhaps as you listen you will find as much meaning as he has through this tale of two sisters searching for purpose, significance, and direction. Visit Amazon or your favorite book retailer for more information on the author and to secure your own copy.

In a new spinoff series, Moments that Matter is focusing a number of episodes toward books that have had a significant impact in the lives of those around us. In our first installment, Dr. Teresa Williams shares about a book that she recently read called Messy Minimalism: Realistic Strategies for the Rest of Us by Rachelle Crawford. This is a book that provides practical wisdom toward decluttering a busy life when time is a premium and reveals that it is possible to live as a minimalist even with a growing family and busy calendar. More than anything this book seeks to create a life that makes ample space and time for the important things. Teresa shares the impact that it has made in her own life and that of her family. You can find your own copy on Amazon in both a digital or print form.

This is the second of a two part episode this week featuring Dr. Paul Shotsberger and his interview with Dr. Oleksandr (Sasha) Vasylevskyy, a dear friend and Ukrainian citizen. Sasha was in the United States when the attacks on his home country began and his family has now fled to safety in Poland. You will not only hear the perspective of one closest to the tragedies unfolding in Ukraine but also how Putin is viewed with his years of aggressive build-up to this present war.

As the war with Russia rages on, Ukraine remains in every headline and news story. Get the latest updates with Dr. Paul Shotsberger along with what continued fighting means for Ukraine, Russia, and the world. This is the first of a two part episode, finishing with a special interview with Sasha, a friend and Ukrainian citizen, displaced due to the ongoing attack on Ukraine.

In this episode, we have the privilege of talking with Lauren Schaupp, daughter of missionaries to East Africa, who spent her early years in the vast expanses of Kenya and Ethiopia. She attended Southern Wesleyan University, majoring in biology, and has a passion for all things outdoors. Lauren belongs to a rare group of elites who have thru-hiked the Appalachian Trail and has all the stories to go along with her great journey. Join us today as we travel along the trail with Lauren for all 2,193.1 miles of wild adventure and be sure to catch her additional long-distance hiking plans in the future.

Over the last few weeks Ukraine has become increasingly front and center in global news, especially as the present target of Russia's aggression. For those who know Dr. Paul Shotsberger or have been following this podcast, you are aware of his serving as a missionary in Ukraine from 2002 until 2009. As events have unfolded overseas, I have not only found his wisdom to be incredibly perceptive but also his foretelling of events has been eerily accurate. Today we have a chance to talk with Dr. Shotsberger and gain a better understanding of what is happening behind the front lines in Ukraine. To support ongoing relief efforts in Ukraine, consider visiting Ministry to Educate and Equip International, Transforming Nations, or Verified Ways to Help in Ukraine from Euromaidan Press.

With all eyes on Ukraine and Russia, our very own Dr. Paul Shotsberger was recently interviewed regarding the ongoing crisis. For those who are followers of this podcast you are well aware of Dr. Shotsberger's time as a missionary in Ukraine from 2002 until 2009. He maintains a number of friends there in his continued service with the organization in which he served and has been receiving frequent updates of the conditions with Kyiv. Today he was interviewed by Dr. Mark Wilson and provides some clarity on the situation in Ukraine as well as how best to pray for those in the path of danger. You can find the map he referenced at the following link: Russian Incursion within Ukraine.

Our guest this week is Dr. David Conley, Lecturer in Performing Arts at Clemson University. He earned his doctorate at Covenant Seminary, where he completed a dissertation on the theology of Tolkien, Lewis and others. He was also a double major in Music and English Literature, the first which has been his vocation, and the second has been his avocation. In his vocation, he is choral director of and lead arranger for the pop ensembles TakeNote and Tigeroar at Clemson, as well as an Instructor of Music Theory, Pop Choral Arranging and Music Appreciation. In his avocation, he is the founder of Inklings Abroad, and for the past 20 years he has led groups across the pond to tour places like Oxford, Cornwall, Scotland, Ireland and other Inklings-connected sites around Europe, digging deep into the history of C.S. Lewis, J.R.R. Tolkien and all things Inklings. For more information on Dr. Conley and the trips he leads, feel free to visit Inklings Abroad and their Facebook page of the same name.

This week we join a previously recorded talk with a dear friend and former guest on this podcast, Natasha Dongell. This past week Natasha addressed the students at Southern Wesleyan University in their weekly chapel service as she expanded upon a chapter from Dr. Paul Shotsbergers newest book, A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere. As you listen you will hear her heart and desire for God's greatest work to fill His people in these present days.

Dr. Paul Shotsberger, on the heels of our recent interview regarding his new book, A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere, had the opportunity to address the students at Southern Wesleyan University for their weekly chapel service. Today we get to hear some of his most transformative stories shared in a new light along with God's heart for his people as they attempt to adult well. To get your own copy of his latest book, visit WIPF and Stock Publishers or Amazon.

This week we pick up with part two of our conversation with Jessica Mussro, World Citizen and Poet. Jess has some history with Southern Wesleyan University, first as an undergrad and then on staff. Following her time at SWU, she worked for the CCCU Middle East Studies Program in Amman, Jordan. She returned to the States and began working as Communications Coordinator at American Leprosy Missions in Greenville, South Carolina. Jess just began a Master of Science degree in international development from SOAS, University of London. As of last month, she is now a published author, having had her poems included in a contributed volume called The Saving I Need, edited by David Tensen in Australia.

Our guest this week is Jessica Mussro. Jess has some history with Southern Wesleyan University, first as an undergrad and then on staff. Following her time at SWU, she worked for the CCCU Middle East Studies Program in Amman, Jordan. She returned to the States and began working as Communications Coordinator at American Leprosy Missions in Greenville, South Carolina. Jess just began a Master of Science degree in international development from SOAS, University of London. As of last month, she is now a published author, having had her poems included in a contributed volume called The Saving I Need, edited by David Tensen in Australia.

This week we join back up with Dr. Paul Shotsberger for part two of our discussion on his new book A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere: Yes, You Can Adult. If you have not yet gotten your copy, visit WIPF and Stock Publishers or Amazon. Also you can check out one of the latest articles singing the praises of our favored author: A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere encourages young adults in life and faith.

Earlier this month the world was privy to a new book launch from our very own Dr. Paul Shotsberger. In yet another divine delivery, Paul has graced his audiences with a truly blessed work affectionately titled A Love Letter to Twentysomethings Everywhere. Today we take the opportunity to hear about the newest work from the Shotsberger library and chat about some of the elements behind the scenes. To get your very own copy be sure to visit WIPF and Stock Publishers or Amazon.

Today we pick up with part two of our interview with Rev. Natasha Dongell, pastor, speaker, church planter, colleague, and a dear friend. Natasha is currently laying the foundation of a new church plant, Follow Church, launching officially in 2022 from her home church here in South Carolina. She is married to Rev. Brent Dongell, professor of Student Ministries at Southern Wesleyan University, and is mom to the three sweetest girls in the whole wide world. Natasha's love for Christ is infectious and her life is a testimony of one lived in deep relationship with Him. Her commitment to reaching others with the full counsel of the gospel has taken her on grand adventures both here at home and around the globe, but perhaps none as exciting as the one upon which she currently embarks. For updates and to track the rollout of this exciting new church movement, be sure to follow her on Facebook and Instagram or send her an email.

Today we have the opportunity to chat with a pastor, speaker, church planter, colleague, and a dear friend, Rev. Natasha Dongell. Natasha is currently laying the foundation of a new church plant, Follow Church, launching officially in 2022 from her home church here in South Carolina. She is married to Rev. Brent Dongell, professor of Student Ministries at Southern Wesleyan University, and is mom to the three sweetest girls in the whole wide world. Natasha's love for Christ is infectious and her life is a testimony of one lived in deep relationship with Him. Her commitment to reaching others with the full counsel of the gospel has taken her on grand adventures both here at home and around the globe, but perhaps none as exciting as the one upon which she currently embarks. For updates and to track the rollout of this exciting new church movement, be sure to follow her on Facebook and Instagram or send her an email.

Our guest today is a repeat visitor in the Moments that Matter studio, author Stephanie Derrick. She has her Ph.D. in history from the University of Sterling in Scotland and is the author of The Fame of C.S. Lewis. Her most recent book is a volume on the history of the Christian publishing industry, Chasing Paper: Critical Reflections on Christian Books and Publishing.

Our guest today on Moments that Matter is Dr. Michael Hylen, Graduate Faculty and Coordinator of Doctoral Studies in the School of Education at Southern Wesleyan University. Prior to joining SWU, he served as an assistant professor of education at Louisiana State University – Shreveport and at Asbury University in Kentucky. At Asbury. Prior to joining the higher education ranks, his most extensive work was as an alternative high school principal for students with emotional disorders and behavior problems. Michael has just come out with a book titled Cultivating Emotional Intelligence which can be found on Amazon or Rowman and Littlefield.

Today we are picking up part two of last week's interview with Dr. Paul Shotsberger. Normally, we have authors come on Moments that Matter and talk to us about a book of theirs that's just been published. We try to get into their backgrounds, how they came to write because we want to understand the decisions that are made along the way that have long-term consequences in our lives. Today, though, we're going to take a different tack, and we're going to view the writing process from the beginning rather than the end. Sometimes authors will publish an outline or a few pages or a chapter online and ask for reader reactions. Well, we're going to do something similar with an idea Paul's just had for a book that came to him just this week. He only has the barest outline for the book and hasn't yet written a single word. We're going to have a conversation about this book, and we ask that you join us in this discussion, as he shares what he believes God has given him so far.

This episode will be a bit of an experiment. Normally, we have authors come on Moments that Matter and talk to us about a book of theirs that's just been published. We try to get into their backgrounds, how they came to write, because we want to understand the decisions that are made along the way that have long-term consequences in our lives. Today, though, we're going to take a different tack, and we're going to view the writing process from the beginning rather than the end. Sometimes authors will publish an outline or a few pages or a chapter online and ask for reader reactions. Well, we're going to do something similar with an idea Paul's just had for a book that came to him just this week. He only has the barest outline for the book and hasn't yet written a single word. We're going to have a conversation about this book, and we ask that you join us in this discussion, as he shares what he believes God has given him so far.

This week we continue with part two of our interview with author Chris Manion. She is an award-winning entrepreneur and speaker who writes inspiring, heartfelt stories in both the fiction and non-fiction genres. She has written a memoir titled God's Patient Pursuit of My Soul, as well as a children's story titled The Light We Cannot See, intended to comfort those who have lost loved ones. Be sure to check out her website and follow her on Facebook and Instagram.

Our guest today is author Chris Manion. She is an award-winning entrepreneur and speaker who writes inspiring, heartfelt stories in both the fiction and non-fiction genres. She has written a memoir titled God's Patient Pursuit of My Soul, as well as a children's story titled The Light We Cannot See, intended to comfort those who have lost loved ones. Be sure to check out her website and follow her on Facebook and Instagram.

Award-winning author, women's ministry speaker, blogger, and editor, Lori Hatcher, sits down with Paul to discuss the world of authorship, experiential writing, and the oft-overlooked responsibility of editing. Paul met Lori at a Christian Writer's Conference where she edited a single page of his latest manuscript, bringing a transformative change and providing a renewed direction for the text. Listen in as our guest describes how our lives become the material for our writing, her own personal journey in the world of authorship, and the incredible value an editor brings to a manuscript. Be sure to check out her webpage, blog, and books!

This week on Moments that Matter we are featuring part two of a keynote address presented by Dr. Allen Lee to the faculty of Southern Wesleyan University. Dr. Lee presently serves as Program Director and Professor of Christian Counselling at Kingswood University and is a committed Christian seeking to honor God through his work in the world of counseling. His presentation deals with personal wellness, carrying significant value in this era of continued COVID. I think you will find his words both comforting and challenging as we learn to be our best selves during this ongoing global pandemic.

This week on Moments that Matter we are featuring part one of a keynote address presented by Dr. Allen Lee to the faculty of Southern Wesleyan University. Dr. Lee presently serves as Program Director and Professor of Christian Counselling at Kingswood University and is a committed Christian, seeking to honor God through his work in the world of counseling. His presentation deals with personal wellness, carrying significant value in this era of continued COVID. I think you will find his words both comforting and challenging as we learn to be our best selves during this ongoing global pandemic.

Today, our guest is Dr. Amber James, Assistant Professor of Music at Southern Wesleyan University. She specializes in voice and graduated from the University of Georgia with a master of music degree in vocal performance, subsequently earning her doctor of musical arts degree in vocal performance and pedagogy from the University of Southern Mississippi. As a sought out voice and piano teacher in various parts of the country, James maintains a part-time studio in New York City in addition to her teaching duties here in South Carolina. She has performed operatic roles in New York, Mississippi, and Italy and was awarded a young artist scholarship for the International Performing Arts Institute located in Germany. Prior to this year, Dr. James has directed and conducted the musicals Kismet, Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, Grease, and Newsboys. This year, she will be overseeing a new and titanic undertaking, directing the musical Titanic. Be sure to follow the Southern Wesleyan University's Division of Fine Arts on Facebook and Instagram for their latest updates. You can also find a collection of special past performances on the YouTube channel: SWU Fine Arts.

We are back with Dr. Teresa Williams who has been on this podcast twice before talking about the COVID pandemic, first in the spring of 2020 shortly after the outbreak, and then again in fall 2020 when we saw the first resurgence of the virus. Well, here we are again, where no one expected to be, masking and social distancing and watching the infection cases rise once again, this time due to the Delta variant of the virus. But this time is a bit different because in the spring of 2021 vaccines were first made available to the public. The vaccines have had a mixed reception, both in terms of acceptance by the public and effectiveness in warding off the new variant of the virus. So, in some ways we're right back where we were in 2020, confused and needing direction from a medical professional. That's why we're so delighted to have Dr. Williams back on the program.

This week we are back with part two of our interview with Raine Riley. As part of her thesis work, she reviewed scores of advertisements that tell stories, some of which would be very familiar to all of us. Since on this podcast we’re all about what we call clearness committee moments—those times in our lives that provide direction or redirection if we are paying attention— we're hopeful you’ll also hear about those times as well.

We’re talking today with a dear friend, Raine Riley, who is getting ready to graduate from Clemson University with her masters in Communication, Technology and Society. As part of her thesis work, she reviewed scores of advertisements that tell stories, some of which would be very familiar to all of us. Since on this podcast we’re all about what we call clearness committee moments—those times in our lives that provide direction or redirection if we are paying attention— we're hopeful you’ll also hear about those times as well.

This week on Moments that Matter we continue our conversation with Dr. Jonathan Sircy about the role as a husband and father. Each season of life requires its own renewal of value and commitment, such as the change from life as an individual to married and then married to parenthood. Dr. Sircy shares some incredibly practical wisdom regarding the role of a husband and father and the moments that have helped shape his own commitments to each. To hear more from Dr. Sircy, be sure to give him a listen over at Perry Pod, his own podcast, based on the timeless TV show Perry Mason.

This week on Moments that Matter we speak with a dear friend and colleague Dr. Jonathan Sircy about his spiritual journey and wrestling with deeper elements of the Christian faith. Many who grew up in the Christian faith reach a point where the beliefs must become their own. Likewise, Dr. Sircy had such a moment that required a radical response and significant decisions. As we are all on our own spiritual journeys and seek our own personal reformations, he provides some great wisdom in our relationships with Christ. To hear more from Dr. Sircy, be sure to check in next week with part two of our interview and you can also find him over at Perry Pod, his own podcast, based on the timeless TV show Perry Mason.

This week we pick back up with part two of our interview with Dr. Christina Sinisi, Professor, and Chair of the Psychology Department at Charleston Southern University. She has been at CSU for 25 years and is married to Kyle Sinisi, a professor at The Citadel; and she has two grown children. Christina and Paul met at a recent Christian writers conference, and we thought it would be interesting to talk with her about how she became a professor and author, including the moments that matter and have directed her life. Be sure to follow Dr. Sinisi, and her current projects, on her website, Facebook, blog, or Twitter!

Our guest today is Dr. Christina Sinisi, Professor, and Chair of the Psychology Department at Charleston Southern University. She has been at CSU for 25 years and is married to Kyle Sinisi, a professor at The Citadel; and she has two grown children. Christina and Paul met at a recent Christian writers conference, and we thought it would be interesting to talk with her about how she became a professor and author, including the moments that matter and have directed her life. Be sure to follow Dr. Sinisi, and her current projects, on her website, Facebook, blog, or Twitter!

Recently, through some casual conversation, we discovered that several interested individuals and parties around Southern Wesleyan University were also podcasters. Their areas of focus were so intriguing that we thought it would be exciting to bring them all together to not only discuss their podcast subjects but also their inspiration and thoughts on sharing through this popular medium. The Perry Pod with Dr. Jonathan Sircy SWU Quest Podcast with Brent Dongell and Michaela Wickham The Little Space Podcast with Deborah Rhodes SWU Soul Stories with Heath Mullikin (and The Double Dropkick Show)

Recently, through some casual conversation, we discovered that several interested individuals and parties around Southern Wesleyan University were also podcasters. Their areas of focus were so intriguing that we thought it would be exciting to bring them all together to not only discuss their podcast subjects but also their inspiration and thoughts on sharing through this popular medium. SWU Quest Podcast with Brent Dongell and Michaela Wickham The Little Space Podcast with Deborah Rhodes SWU Soul Stories with Heath Mullikin (and The Double Dropkick Show)

This week we are jumping back into the interview with the co-host of this podcast, Paul Shotsberger, for part two of the important role of storytelling. He has had two books published, including the Moments that Matter companion book, and he is currently completing his third book. All of his writing is nonfiction. Fiction writers are well aware that storytelling is the essence of what they do. However, whether we are writing fiction or non-fiction, even academic writing, Paul believes that if we are not concerned about effective storytelling we are missing out on a difference-maker for our audience and therefore a key to success for our writing. He is currently preparing a course for Clemson’s Osher Lifelong Learning Institute on the subject, which he will teach in June.

As you may know, the excellent co-host of this podcast, Paul Shotsberger, is a writer. He has had two books published, including the Moments that Matter companion book, and he is currently completing his third book. All of his writing is nonfiction. Fiction writers are well aware that storytelling is the essence of what they do. However, whether we are writing fiction or non-fiction, even academic writing, Paul believes that if we are not concerned about effective storytelling we are missing out on a difference-maker for our audience and therefore a key to success for our writing. He is currently preparing a course for Clemson’s Osher Lifelong Learning Institute on the subject, which he will teach in June.

On this episode of Moments that Matter, we jump back in for part two of last week’s presentation by Dr. Ken Badley. This past Fall Semester, Southern Wesleyan University hosted its first virtual Faith Integration in the Academy conference with Dr. Badley as the keynote speaker. He has graciously allowed us to use his presentation in this forum and his message that includes both the integration of faith and learning as well as the integration of faith and living.

On this episode of Moments that Matter, we are excited to welcome a presentation by Dr. Ken Badley. This past Fall Semester, Southern Wesleyan University hosted its first virtual Faith Integration in the Academy conference with Dr. Badley as the keynote speaker. He has graciously allowed us to use his presentation in this forum and his message that includes both the integration of faith and learning as well as the integration of faith and living.

We are pleased to be joined today by Mike Reznik, President of Transforming Nations, a missions organization based in Sacramento, California. Mike hails from western Ukraine where he and Paul met a little over 15 years ago. From there, he founded missions and Bible schools in two locations in Kyrgyzstan, then Kenya where he lived for a time. Now he lives in Jordan where Transforming Nations has a large work in both the capital Amman and in northern Jordan near the Syrian border. You can learn more about Transforming Nations at their website or on Facebook; there you can keep up with the ministry's latest news and support the work that Mike is doing abroad.

We're back with the second part of our interview with the husband-wife bluegrass duo the Chatham Rabbits. It’s been about a year since we last spoke with Austin and Sarah McCombie. Back then, we could have no idea the impact that the pandemic would have on the entertainment industry, including music and music performance. However, the Chatham Rabbits aren’t your run of the mill musicians—in fact, beyond simply being very creative musically, they are also very creative in their approach to the business of music, and they have come up with ways to continue their art in the midst of difficult times. Be sure to check out their website and follow them on Facebook and Instagram; they also have a great online store with their music and plenty of awesome merch!!

Today, we’re talking again with the husband-wife bluegrass duo the Chatham Rabbits. It’s been about a year since we last spoke with Austin and Sarah McCombie. Back then, we could have no idea the impact that the pandemic would have on the entertainment industry, including music and music performance. However, the Chatham Rabbits aren’t your run of the mill musicians—in fact, beyond simply being very creative musically, they are also very creative in their approach to the business of music, and they have come up with ways to continue their art in the midst of difficult times. Be sure to check out their website and follow them on Facebook and Instagram; they also have a great online store with their music and plenty of awesome merch!!

This week we are back with Father Gregory Plow, a dear friend from Dr. Paul Shotsberger's days in the math department at UNC Wilmington. Father Gregory Plow, is a Franciscan Friar from the Third Order Regular of Saint Francis and currently pursuing his doctorate. His province sponsors two universities and he is director of the post-novitiate formation program, located in Washington, DC, preparing friars for the permanent brotherhood and priesthood. In this episode, we talk about the disciplines of the life of a friar while also addressing the recent events in the nation's capital, only remedied by Christ's prayer for unity in our world.

We’re talking today with an old friend from Dr. Paul Shotsberger's days in the math department at UNC Wilmington. Following graduation, Father Gregory Plow, went on to teach math for a couple of years, but then followed his calling to become a Franciscan Friar from the Third Order Regular of Saint Francis. His province sponsors two universities and he is director of the post-novitiate formation program, located in Washington, DC, preparing friars for the permanent brotherhood and priesthood. It is an honor to have Father Gregory on the podcast today!