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Sarah and Beth react to Trump's State of the Union address, Governor Abigail Spanberger's response, and what it all signals for 2028. Outside of politics, they turn inward and share their experience with Dan Pink's AI-powered self-reflection exercise. Topics Discussed: Trump’s State of the Union Looking Ahead to 2028 Outside of Politics: Brutal Truths from AI Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that the International Emergency Economic Powers Act does not give President Trump the authority to impose sweeping global tariffs. Sarah and Beth discuss how the tariff case is just one piece of a bigger and more troubling economic picture: a weakening dollar, a bond market under pressure, and a private credit sector showing signs of serious stress. Plus, Beth has finally watched The Pitt, and she and Sarah make the case that an emergency room drama might be exactly what America needs right now. Topics Discussed: The Supreme Court says Trump’s Tariffs are Illegal Economic Indicators are Changing Outside of Politics: The Pitt Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

There’s a theme in today’s episode of holding the breath, which is something I’ve been doing about unrest and possible US military action in Iran. Sarah and I discuss reporting that the administration seems increasingly likely to take what they term “kinetic” action (and what Reps. Ro Khanna and Thomas Massie and Senators Tim Kaine and Rand Paul would call acts of war). Then there’s the way that our guest and friend Natalia Terfa describes holding her breath in Minneapolis. Even as Operation Metro Surge “winds down,” there are still agents and agitators. There is still fear and tension. There is damage left to repair after “it’s over,” and a sense that it’s not really over yet. We’re grateful to Natalia for her leadership on the ground and her willingness to discuss it with us today. We often talk about outside of politics as an exhale, and we hope it is today. We talk about our very-non-sports-y Winter Olympics takes, with a special shout out to all of you who participated in the Spice Cabinet Opening Ceremonies. If you’ve listened for a long time, you know that I love yoga. One of my favorite parts of a yoga class is taking a collective breath. It reminds me that we’re here. We’re alive, right now, and that’s its own form of miracle. It reminds me that we’re not alone. I hope this episode gives you that sense, too. -Beth Topics Discussed: Unrest in Iran and Potential Military Action On the Ground in Minneapolis with Natalia Terfa Outside of Politics: The Winter Olympics Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We’re sharing today’s good news brief with all of our followers. Join us every Thursday for more good news with Sarah. You can subscribe to PantsuitPoliticsShow.com Good morning, friends. It’s Thursday, February 19th — the Good News Brief. And since we were hard on AI this week, I thought we should remind ourselves that AI is also quietly doing something extraordinary: remaking the future of human medicine. Today’s stories are a mix of awe and genuine hope. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we're discussing the latest instance of large companies pre-emptively caving to the Trump Administration: Stephen Colbert's blocked interview with Texas Senate candidate James Tallarico. With that backdrop, the House of Representatives passed the SAVE America Act, which would require proof of citizenship to register to vote. Sarah and Beth discuss why this is a conversation about voter suppression disguised as election integrity. Next, we discuss the standoff between Anthropic and the Department of Defense over the use of Claude in military operations and domestic surveillance. Outside of politics, Sarah and Beth answer a listener's question about astrology and what it means to hold those frameworks loosely in an age of data and critical thinking. Topics Discussed The Save America Act Artificial Intelligence Overwhelm Outside of Politics: Astrology and Tarot Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When every moment could become viral fodder, what's the cost of just living your life? Sarah and Beth examine several recent news stories that address this question of privacy and surveillance. Plus, First Ladies Abby Cox and Joanna Lydgate join to discuss political violence and the mental toll of public service. Plus, outside of politics, they express finding validation away from the obsequiousness of artificial intelligence. Topics Discussed The Glare of the Internet’s Spotlight First Ladies Abby Cox and Joanna Lydgate on Political Violence Moment of Hope: Cecilia Giménez and the Monkey Jesus Fresco Outside of Politics: Alexa Updates Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With the proliferation of prediction markets, we're sharing this premium episode of More to Say from January with the full audience. We hope this helps you understand better what's happening in this industry and why it matters. If you enjoy this episode, we'd love for you to join us on Substack as a premium member. Go to pantsuitpoliticsshow.com for a written version of this episode (available for free) and to become a subscriber. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth discuss President Trump's racist meme-posting and why it's landing differently this time. Next, we contrast that with Bad Bunny's Super Bowl halftime show. Plus, we discuss elite incompetence at institutions like the Washington Post, the latest Epstein file releases, Super Bowl ads, and a little football. Topics Discussed President Trump Shares a Racist Meme Bad Bunny’s Super Bowl Halftime Show The Washington Post layoffs and Bezos’s priorities The Epstein files illustrate a moral bankruptcy Outside of Politics: The Super Bowl commercials (and a little football) Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. Get 50% Off Monarch, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarch.com/pantsuit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth dig into why China suddenly feels both harder to understand and more important to pay attention to — from Xi Jinping's latest purges of military leadership to what his consolidating power means for the U.S. They also sit down with veteran journalist Jane Perlez to discuss what Americans get wrong about China. Plus, they talk about where they would hypothetically set up Pantsuit Politics International. Topics Discussed What We’re Missing On China Jane Perlez on Trade, President Xi, and the Future of China Outside of Politics: Pantsuit Politics International Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today we're discussing rampant corruption and speculation in the Trump administration. From UAE interests investing in Trump companies days before his second inauguration, apparent payment for pardons, and Amazon's outsized investment and promotion in the Melania "documentary." We also discuss the ways that Federal Courts are pushing back on ICE enforcement throughout the US. Tickets for our Minneapolis live show and first-ever Spice Conference go on sale soon! Details here Topics Discussed UAE Corruption Scandal Bitcoin, Chips, and Pardons Federal Courts vs. ICE Outside of Politics: The Grammys Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're delighted to be joined by Senator Andy Kim to discuss what Congress can and should be doing to respond to the nation's current crises. Plus, we discuss the need for accountability, the importance of community engagement, and the impact of corruption on our governmental systems. Outside of politics, you won't want to miss hearing about the Senator's many delightful hobbies. Topics Discussed Senator Andy Kim on the Role of Congress Outside of Politics: Movies, Music, and Bagels Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. We're preparing for our 2026 Team Retreat. Please help us get ready by filling out this quick surveySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This weekend has shaken us deeply. We talk about the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti by federal agents in Minneapolis, the detention of children as young as two and five years old, and the protests erupting across Minnesota in sub-zero temperatures. We're struggling with the distance between what we can see with our own eyes and what the administration is telling us, and wrestling with the question of where we go from here. Topics Discussed Alex Pretti Shot By ICE Agents in Minneapolis Greed, Corruption, and Show Running in the Trump Administration Outside of Politics: Cultivating and Nurturing Online Communities Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. We're preparing for our 2026 Team Retreat. Please help us get ready by filling out this quick survey Get 50% Off Monarch, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarch.com/pantsuit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week has been emotionally exhausting, and we're feeling it too. We talk about what's been broken and lost domestically due to ICE actions in Minnesota and internationally due to President Trump's desire to acquire Greenland. We are asking ourselves how we build something more stable on the other side of all of this, whenever that comes. We want to be ready build coalitions and make changes that actually last. Topics Discussed ICE Continues to Escalate in Minnesota Greenland, Davos, and the Rupturing of the International Order Outside of Politics: The Incoming Winter Storm Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why does support for Israel fuel antisemitism on the right, while criticism of Israel fuels it on the left? The Atlantic's Yair Rosenberg returns to explain what he calls the "no-win dynamic" of prejudice—where any argument can be twisted to justify hatred. Sarah and Beth talk with Yair about his recent research revealing a surprising generational shift: younger Americans are significantly more likely to express antisemitic views than older generations, and age matters more than political party. He unpacks why this is happening—from the fading memory of World War II to the culture of edginess and transgression online—and explains why it's so hard to distinguish "a punchline from a punch." The conversation also moves beyond Israel as symbol to Israel as actual country, exploring the upcoming election, Netanyahu's grip on power, the internal battles over university diversity programs and film funding, and why understanding these complexities matters for productive conversations about the Middle East. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As things continue to escalate in Minneapolis, Sarah and Beth discuss their concerns about what the administration's actions portend. Plus, they discuss how Fed Chair Jerome Powell is pushing back as the administration targets him. For our America250 moment, they are reflecting on Common Sense by Thomas Paine and, outside of politics, they discuss 2026 predicted food trends. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth are joined by Elizabeth Oldfield, writer and host of The Sacred. We know the headlines are heavy this week, and Elizabeth has made a career of considering how we can stay engaged and grounded in these turbulent times. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth are together to discuss the tragic death of Renee Good in Minneapolis. They process the news, work through their feelings, discuss the unacceptable response from the administration and other elected leaders, and reflect on how the administration’s choices created the circumstances for this event. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Welcome to our first new episode of 2026. We're thrilled to be back with you to process and discuss the news. Topics Discussed The United States Removes Venezuelan President Maduro in "Police" Action America 250: George Washington and Smallpox Superflu, Whooping Cough, and Measles Outside of Politics: Wishes for 2026 Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This final episode originally aired in December for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. Beth subtitled this section, “Good Luck, Babes.” They talk about the problem of individualism, how we need to make not just a good life, but a good society, why we need to argue more, and the struggle in realizing that nothing systemic can save us from personal suffering. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This third episode originally aired in September for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. In this episode, they get into the different types of citizens laid out in the book, Beth’s dreaded “swooping,” the role of religion in public life, and what it truly means to care. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This second episode originally aired in May for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. In this episode, they discuss the value of doing things in community, the social construct of marriage, the authors’ disdain for therapeutic culture, and the structures of friendship. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

As our team takes time off for the holidays, we are sharing the conversations Sarah and Beth had this year about Habits of the Heart. This first episode originally aired in February for our premium members on Substack. Whether you’re also taking a well-deserved break, spending time with family, or just looking for something meaningful to listen to, we hope you’ll join us to revisit (or enjoy for the first time!) this thoughtful exploration from Sarah and Beth of this powerful, prescient book. In this episode, they discuss the introductory, and imagine where the authors would push them, and investigate what the meaning of “the pursuit of happiness” was to the founders in comparison to how we define it now. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here we are at the end of another year. Today, we're looking ahead to 2026: our expectations for the year, what we're looking forward to, and what our words of the year are. Topics Discussed Predictions and Expectations for 2026 Good Things to Look Forward to in 2026 Outside of Politics: 2026 Words of the Year Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth are looking back on 2025: what was hard, what was surprising, and what went well. Topics Discussed What Happened in 2025: The Second Trump Administration Positive Stories from Around the World What Would We Tell Ourselves in January 2025 Outside of Politics: Favorite Books of the Year Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. Get 50% Off Monarch, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarch.com/pantsuit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Not many would argue that empathy is one of this administration's strengths. Sarah and Beth talk about the role of empathy in our politics - both when it is a gift and when it is a burden. Topics Discussed Venezuelan Boat Strikes The Empathy Debate Outside of Politics: Our Favorite Movies & TV of 2025 Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth discuss Netflix's bid to buy Warner Bros., our algorithmic economy, and Sean Duffy's airport fashion advice. Topics Discussed The Netflix, Warner Bros., Paramount Love Triangle The Algorithmic Economy Outside of Politics: Sean Duffy wants you to look nice when you fly Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth talk with Simon Bazelon, one of the authors of Deciding to Win, a report focused on how Democrats can strengthen their electoral chances moving forward. This is a wonderful, pragmatic conversation about what that will take. Then, outside of politics, they discuss food for Christmas Day. Topics Discussed Simon Bazelon on How Democrats Can Win Outside of Politics: Christmas Day Food Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Sarah and Beth discuss Marjorie Taylor Greene's dramatic exit from Congress and what that says about the current state of our nation. Then Julie K Brown, the Miami Herald investigative reporter who wrote the book on Jeffrey Epstein, joins Sarah and Beth to discuss her latest reporting and what happens next with the Epstein files. Topics Discussed Marjorie Taylor Greene walks away from Congress What Everyone Gets Wrong about the Epstein Files with Julie K Brown Outside of Politics: Holiday Traditions for Big Kids Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats, and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here at Pantsuit Politics, we wanted to approach our gratitude a little differently this year. We reached out to a bunch of people in our community and asked them to do that with us. What you’ll hear today are members of our team, listeners like you, some friends of the show, and many of the guests we had on throughout this year sharing the absolute smallest things they are thankful for. What we got is a beautiful mix of poignant, funny, heartfelt, and honest answers. If you’ve never watched us on video, this episode is a great one to do so. It’s so fun to see everyone’s faces and spaces as they share what they are grateful for. Plus, Studio D was kind enough to work with me to put everyone’s names on the video as well, in case you don’t recognize them on voices alone. We’d love to know the smallest thing you are grateful for as well. We’ve made the Substack comments open to everyone for this episode, so make sure to share your small gratitude there. Our team is, today and always, grateful for each and every one of you who make our work possible. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. Get 50% Off Monarch, the all-in-one financial tool at www.monarch.com/pantsuit.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are honored to have author Diana Carlin with us today to talk about the role of First Lady — both in its history and the modern approach our recent and current First Ladies have taken. Plus, outside of politics, Sarah and Beth share their Thanksgiving must-haves. Topics Discussed First Ladies Past and Present with Diana Carlin Outside of Politics: Thanksgiving Favorites Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth discuss the news of the week and the increasing prices across the economy. Topics Discussed: ICE Operations in Charlotte, NC Mohammed bin Salman Al Saud at the White House Congress Votes to Force Release of Epstein Files Pricing Increases and Import Decreases Outside of Politics: Moving Forward After Grief Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In today's new episode, Sarah and Beth discuss the rapid decline of drinking in the US and what that means for our relationships, our economy, and our politics. Topics Discussed The Decline of Drinking in the US Outside of Politics: How do I ask my neighbor to stop smoking? Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Health insurance premiums are skyrocketing this year. Understanding why pulls in a multitude of topics: aging populations, expensive new drugs and treatments, rising costs across sectors, the consolidated profit layers baked into our system, and more. Sarah and Beth untangle why and how we got here, what's actually driving costs, and why the solution is not as simple as wishing for a universal healthcare fix. Plus: why everyone seems so angry about everything. Topics Discussed No Dumb Questions About Health Insurance Why Premiums Are Skyrocketing Insurance as Financial Security vs. Healthcare Solution Outside of Politics: Customer Service and Community Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth discuss the priorities of the Trump Administration in the face of the longest government shutdown in history, the negotiations between eight Democratic senators and Republicans to reopen the government, and the ways the shutdown is impacting air travel as the holidays approach. Topics Discussed The Trump Administration’s Shutdown Priorities: Coins, Renovations, Pardons, and cutting SNAP benefits The Senate Plan to Reopen the Government The Generational Impact of the Air Traffic Controller Strike Outside of Politics: Getting Ready for the Holidays Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We're joined by Governor Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan to talk about this week's election results, her work in Michigan, our current political moment, and her beloved Detroit Lions. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Note: This week, we’re sharing the spicy bonus episode with all our subscribers - free and paid. If you’re a free subscriber, we hope you enjoy this preview. These are the types of robust, free-flowing conversations we’re sharing every Thursday for paid subscribers. We hope you’ll consider joining us as a paid subscriber so you can enjoy all our premium content, access the comments and community, and support our small business. On this week’s spicy bonus episode, Sarah and Beth discuss the encouraging election results from around the country. They discuss Nancy Pelosi’s announced retirement and how this administration is leaving so many missed opportunities on the table. This could have been a time of real change, but, instead, they are just breaking things. Speaking of breaking things, the political right is facing a real breakdown within its ranks. There’s a real divide happening. All this, plus the desire to do real work and be connected with each other, and the difference between virtue and moralizing. It’s all here in one of our characteristically wide-ranging episodes. *This episode is explicit. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Rep. Sarah McBride, who represents the entire state of Delaware, joins us to talk about her experience in Congress, the stakes of the shutdown, working with her colleagues across the aisle, and her connection to Taylor Swift. It's a fabulous conversation you won't want to miss. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, we're talking about the spookiest thing we can think of: the economy. The stock market is up in 2025, but the gains are concentrated in a handful of companies, primarily driven by speculation about what AI will be. Sarah and Beth discuss what the AI economy means for regular people, our jobs, and our future. Topics Discussed The AI Economy Crypto Speculation Outside of Politics: Steven King and Louise Penny Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Today, Sarah and Beth are joined by Lacy Boling of the Paducah Cooperative Ministry, who shares how government cuts are impacting Food Banks across the US, their ability to meet their community needs, and how we can help. Topics Discussed How federal assistance has slowed to a trickle What could happen to families when SNAP benefits run out What happens to food pantries when need skyrockets What all of us can do that actually helps Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The East Wing of the White House being torn down during a government shutdown might be the most egregious physical manifestation of America’s problems right now. Corruption abounds, Congress is adrift, and our international impact is murky at best. Plus, healthcare costs are skyrocketing for millions of Americans. Sarah and Beth break it all down together. They discuss the destruction of the East Wing, the government shutdown, ICE in Chicago, the Gaza ceasefire, the strikes on Venezuelan boats, the healthcare costs, and more. Topics Discussed Corruption at the White House Government Shutdown and Congress Adrift Donald Trump’s International Legacy and Actions Healthcare Cost Increases Outside of Politics: Our Switzerland Trip Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more. If you're not already subscribed, you can use this link to ensure you're getting our show notes, weekly newsletter, and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Should SNAP benefits cover soda and candy? Six states get federal approval to exclude them, and Sarah and Beth debate whether this is smart public health policy or government overreach—wrestling with the tension between the "nutrition" and "assistance" parts of the program's mission. Should tax dollars subsidize products that make people less healthy? Sarah and Beth explore the "common sense politics" of restricting junk food purchases, Sarah's personal experience using SNAP cards during COVID, and whether the Biden administration should have approved state waivers as experiments instead of blocking them. Is the soda industry the real villain? Sarah calls soda "poison" and predicts it will be viewed like cigarettes in decades to come, while Beth argues the government should regulate the industry upstream rather than police individual purchases downstream. Plus: Bedtime routines, sleep struggles, and why Beth can sleep through anything while Sarah wakes up at the slightest sound. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when a college "greet line" handshake turns into a 24-year friendship? Sarah welcomes her longtime friends Mike and Smith to explore how their trio has survived decades of different life phases, cross-country moves, and major life changes, from their freshman year at Transylvania University through careers, marriages, and parenthood—all anchored by a book club that became their lifeline. Why are platonic male-female friendships so rare in American culture? They examine the social dynamics that make cross-gender friendships uncommon, how romantic assumptions complicate these relationships, and what it takes for friendships to survive when partners enter the picture, exploring whether having sisters, shared interests, or just good "riffing" chemistry makes the difference. Is America heading toward a "soft secession" by blue and red states? They flip the script on our usual Outside of Politics segment and tackle the current political moment, debating whether fertile ground exists for a viable third party, why Trump's cultural omnipresence makes him irreplaceable, and whether the country's "bimodal" split on everything from news consumption to local governance signals a fundamental breaking point in American democracy. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sarah and Beth tackle the complicated state of climate discourse in America. While extreme weather events become increasingly common and climate change shows up in our daily lives—from electricity bills to insurance rates—the national conversation remains frustratingly frozen in partisan gridlock. They explore why climate change has become such a divisive political issue despite its visible effects, discuss the tension between climate catastrophism and practical solutions, and examine what effective climate messaging might look like going forward. From the “mile wide, inch deep” nature of public support to the challenges facing both progressive and conservative climate advocates, this conversation captures the full complexity of where we are—and where we might need to go. Finally, Sarah introduces Beth (and us) to junk journaling, a creative practice of transforming everyday ephemera into meaningful keepsakes. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Will there finally be peace in Gaza? Sarah and Beth discuss President Trump's efforts to coordinate a peace deal between Israel and Gaza. They reflect on what it must mean to families on both sides of the conflict to see a potential end to this war in sight. Why isn't Congress back in session to end this shutdown and what does it have to do with Epstein?. Sarah and Beth talk to Rep. Ro Khanna about the government shutdown and his efforts to get the Epstein files released. Rep. Khanna also shares why the two are intertwined. How much cleaning is too much cleaning? Outside of politics, we're talking about cleaning content and what level of cleaning goes past reasonable standards of cleanliness. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Government shutdown drags on with no end in sight. Sarah and Beth explore why Republicans lack motivation to resolve it—from giving Russell Vought a runway to shut down agencies, to avoiding responsibility, to the Epstein document discharge petition battle. Federal troops and ICE operations escalate in American cities. Sarah and Beth break down the National Guard deployments to Los Angeles, DC, Memphis, and the blocked attempt in Oregon, plus aggressive ICE raids across the country. What "war zones" actually look like versus Portland protests. Sarah and Beth push back on the administration's characterization of cities, discuss ice impersonators endangering citizens, and debate whether Gavin Newsom and JB Pritzker are handling federal overreach differently. Plus: Taylor Swift's The Life of a Showgirl album—what worked and what didn't. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, chats and more.Don't miss our limited-edition holiday sale!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can Trump's Gaza peace plan actually work? Sarah and Beth break down the 20-point proposal and why Netanyahu is finally feeling the heat. They discuss what's changed—from polling on Israel to Ukraine's drone warfare lessons—and whether this administration's transactional approach might accidentally deliver lasting peace. Why are so few panicking about the government shutdown? With funding lapsed and Congress in recess, Beth and Sarah explore the "giant shrug" response from those not directly affected and whether crying wolf has made actual shutdowns feel disminished. They debate Democratic strategy on healthcare protections, discuss the problem with shutdown threats, and propose what a genuine budget process reform could look like. What happened when Pete Hegseth called 800 generals to Quantico? Sarah and Beth dissect the defense secretary's retreat featuring Christian nationalism, complaints about "fat" people in the military, and Trump's "enemy within" rhetoric. They work through the tension of taking legitimate military critiques seriously while resisting the administration's trap of making everything a partisan thunderdome—and why the calm response from cities with National Guard deployments offers a better model. Plus: The treats roundup you need this week, from The Pitt to fall magazines to cinnamon toast blondies. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What is the path forward for Gaza and the West Bank? Beth and Sarah discuss Trump's fourth meeting with the Israeli Prime Minister as European countries recognize Palestinian statehood. They examine Tony Blair's transition proposal, Trump's 21-point plan, and whether the Trump administration can be a reliable partner in peace. What happens to a government shutdown when "we don't have local politics anymore"? As the government funding deadline hits tomorrow, Sarah and Beth explore why the old political playbooks may not work in today's splintered media environment. Sarah and Beth evaluate Democratic negotiating priorities - from healthcare tax credits to PBS funding - and debate whether representatives should act as delegates or trustees when Constitutional order itself is at stake. Is the Comey indictment as flimsy as it looks? Beth breaks down the two-page indictment charging the former FBI Director with lying to Congress about a 2016 leak. With a grand jury already refusing one charge and a statute of limitations that barely applies, they discuss what it means when the Justice Department has fully become "the revenge department for the president" rather than serving the American people. Plus: Sarah shares her Common Ground Pilgrimage to England and achieves her life dream of comforting a crying baby on a transatlantic flight. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is the President authorized to blow up boats and kill suspected drug smugglers? Beth speaks with Senator Chris Van Hollen (D-MD) about Trump's use of military force to strike vessels in the Caribbean Sea without due process, trials, or congressional authorization. The Senator explains why these extrajudicial killings violate constitutional war powers and put America at greater risk internationally. Why aren't Republicans checking executive overreach? Senator Van Hollen describes how the GOP has become a "rubber stamp" for Trump, abandoning its constitutional duty to provide checks and balances. From dismantling congressional war powers to remaining silent on due process violations, he explores what it means when an entire party contracts out its judgment to one person. What levers does Congress actually have right now? As the government funding deadline approaches, Van Hollen discusses the Democratic strategy of "creative confrontation" - from showing up at ICE detention centers to challenging book bans at the Naval Academy. He explains why he won't give Trump a "blank check" even from the minority, and what safeguards against illegal withholding of funds could look like in any budget deal. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Can Democrats move beyond defending broken institutions? Beth and guest host Mike Nellis explore how the party has become trapped in protecting a status quo that isn't working, while Republicans offer only grievance without solutions. Nellis argues that both parties lack a positive vision for America, leaving Americans choosing between institutional failure and billionaire-funded chaos. Why does Trump strategically pick fights he can win? From Jimmy Kimmel's suspension to targeting ActBlue, Beth and Mike examine how Trump chooses vulnerable opponents while avoiding stronger figures, and how his "retribution arc" exploits existing weaknesses in media and activist organizations. How do we have real conversations when algorithms profit from division? Drawing on everything from pro wrestling metaphors to advice from his Trump-voting FBI father, they discuss why billionaires benefit from keeping Americans fighting their neighbors, the loneliness epidemic among young people, and finding common ground beyond political identity. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when a 22-year-old's "mission mindset" leads to political assassination? Sarah and Beth grapple with the charging documents and online footprint of Charlie Kirk's shooter, exploring how video game culture, sedentary leisure, and the deadly confluence that defies simple political categorization. Can we stop using historical figures as props to end arguments? They examine how both sides wield Hitler comparisons and identity markers to avoid engaging with actual ideas, discussing Sarah's personal reckoning with years of ad hominem attacks and why "you're a Nazi" has become a conversation killer rather than a call for critical thinking. Why do young people know Charlie Kirk but reject his ideas? From the 90% name recognition but only 30% approval among Gen Z to the "sedentary alone leisure time" crisis among young men, Sarah and Beth explore how we ceded intellectual territory to figures like Jordan Peterson and Andrew Tate by refusing to engage with questions about masculinity and purpose. How do we debate ideas without destroying relationships? Drawing on everything from couples therapy techniques to sibling fights, they discuss moving from "sneering" to intellectual rigor, why the personal being political doesn't mean emotions should dominate arguments, and how to choose relationship over being right. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when a polarizing figure's death becomes a cultural Rorschach test? Sarah and Beth process the assassination of Charlie Kirk and its aftermath, exploring how the same person can be seen as both saint and monster depending on your media diet, and why we're all seeing different versions of the same story. How do we have "soft conflict" in a world demanding verbal war? They examine the death spiral of online discourse where nuance dies and everyone becomes either completely good or irredeemably evil, discussing why we've lost the ability to disagree without destroying each other and how algorithmic social media poisons every conversation. Can we escape the cycle of cancellation and retribution? From firing people over social media posts to the deification and demonization of public figures, Sarah and Beth explore how both left and right use the same punitive playbook, and why someone has to go first in laying down weapons. Why are we all craving something real when everything feels like performance? Outside of Politics, they discuss the exhaustion of being extremely online, the appeal of house plants and tangible hobbies, and why even award shows feel hollow when streaming has fractured our shared cultural experiences. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.