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We're 3rd generation insurance agency owners, and also brothers. In 2018, we launched our 2nd company, Total CSR, with the aim of reducing new-to-industry onboarding time frames from 2 years, to 2 months. Since then, we’ve traveled the country speaking to


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    Season 1 Finale

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 32:45


    Beverage – Whiskey Smash Part 1: What do you do when you suspect a client is being dishonest? Part 2: How can an agency find stability with a carrier despite frequent underwriter turnover? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the importance of not jumping to conclusions but rather being an advisor to clients if you suspect they are towing a line that may jeopardize their coverage. They also share insight on how to manage the relationship with a key carrier that is constantly assigning new underwriters to the agency.

    Can You Teach an Old Agency New Tricks?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 19:43


    Beverage – Gin & Tonic Part 1: How do you bring an agency into 2020? Part 2: What do employees need to develop leadership skills? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share steps needed for an agency to consistently modernize operations and avoid backsliding back into their comfort zone. They also discuss the tools and trainings agencies need to provide to develop the next generation of leaders in the organization.

    Which Niche is Which?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2020 17:57


    Beverage – The Gimlet Part 1: What does an agent need to know when choosing a niche? Part 2: What qualities are most important in leader? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share their thoughts on the most important factors to developing a niche focus. They also provide insight on the characteristics an owner should look for when the need arises to bring another person in to help with management responsibilities in the agency.

    What Options Are There for An Employee Who Regrets Taking a Promotion?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2020 18:16


    Beverage – The Aperol Spritz Part 1: How does a new employee make the most of an abundance of downtime? Part 2: What should a new manager do when they find themselves struggling with new responsibilities? In this episode, Justin and Jordan give some helpful advice to a new-to-the-industry on making the best use of idle time. They also provide thoughts on steps a new manager can take to overcome hurdles they are experiencing in their new role.

    Is There a Fair Way to Distribute the Accounts of a Retiring Producer?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 12:47


    Beverage – French 75 Part 1: How do you make a judgement call on whether a lead is good or bad? Part 2: What should agency leaders consider when splitting up a book of business? In this episode, Justin and Jordan debate what makes an account a less than desirable risk for the agency and what role data plays when determining if incoming leads require more effort than they are worth. They also discuss what factors matter most when an agency needs to transition accounts from a producer who is nearing retirement.

    How Do I Transition Accounts Out of My Book That I No Longer Have Time to Work With?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2020 16:49


    Beverage – A Brandy Daisy Part 1: When does it make sense for a producer to remove accounts from their book of business? Part 2: How do I build rapport with an underwriter who doesn't trust the agency? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss what agency owners and producers should evaluate to determine when and how ongoing involvement and service needs will be handled for small accounts. They also provide insight into how a producer can work through resentment issues between an underwriter and the agency and build a better working relationship going forward.

    How Do Agencies Build Valuable Experience for Interns?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2020 16:41


    Beverage – The Martinez Part 1: Should an agency eliminate perks that no longer serve their intended purpose? Part 2: What should agencies include when creating an internship program? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the factors agency leaders should review when considering whether or not to maintain certain perks for producers that no longer appear to generate revenue. They also give helpful advice to an agency struggling with what to do when interns arrive at the office each year.

    What Are The Potential Consequences of Consolidating Locations?

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2020 15:23


    Beverage – Vodka Quarantine Part 1: Will closing a location cost an agency business? Part 2: What options do employees have when required to handle extra duties around the office? In this episode, Justin and Jordan debate the importance of having a local presence and the impact it can have on revenue. They also discuss the struggle agency staff face when they assume the responsibilities of a former employee.

    Is A Client Sign Off Truly Necessary?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2020 15:29


    Beverage – An Island Party Part 1: Do agencies need to collect a signature when a client declines coverage? Part 2: Do agencies need to offer extended office hours? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss how agencies should handle documentation when a client declines proposed coverage. They also share their thoughts on offering extended hours for client service.

    What Should Agencies Do When a VIP Employee Retires and Client Relationships Are at Risk?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2020 16:00


    Beverage - Gin & Juice Part 1: How do you know when it's time to hire? Part 2: How should an agency prepare for retirement of a key employee? In this episode, Justin and Jordan dive into the subject of revenue per employee and the numerous other factors that need to be taken into account when making staffing decisions. They also share insight on the necessary steps to ensure a smooth transition of a client relationship from one employee to another.

    How Should Internal Employee Moves be Managed?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 15:30


    Beverage - The Schmitts! Part 1: Is there proper protocol when employees want to move within the agency? Part 2: Does an agency benefit from participating in carrier advisory boards? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the pros and cons of employees changing positions within an agency. They also share some tips on how to add value to agency-carrier advisory boards.

    How Do Managers Reenergize a Team That Has Started to Check Out?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 17:21


    Beverage – The Expat Part 1: What can managers do when the excitement of working from home wears off? Part 2: How should agencies manage producer comp plans? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss options agencies can use to overcome the challenges of an extended remote work situation. They also dig into producer compensation and share thoughts on the different factors that impact compensation structure.

    How Can An Agency Identify Ineffective Parts of the Sales Process?

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 19:25


    Beverage – Deep Cleanse Part 1: How do you help a struggling producer get on the right track? Part 2: Do leads lists work? In this episode, Justin and Jordan talk about critical parts of the sales process and the information needed to pinpoint where adjustments are needed. They also discuss what works and what doesn't work when it comes to leads lists.

    What Should An Agency Do When They Have More Carriers Than They Know What To Do With?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2020 19:41


    Beverage – Mint Julep Part 1: How do we create a more productive employee review process? Part 2: How does an agency decide who makes the cut when they are overwhelmed by too many carrier? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the importance of regular employee performance conversations. They also dig into the various factors that should be considered and steps to take when creating a carrier consolidation plan.

    How Do You Break Up With A Client?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 20, 2020 18:16


    Beverage: Cherry Blossom Part 1: How do you know when enough is enough with a difficult client? Part 2: What is the best way to introduce outsourcing to agency employees? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share thoughts on criteria to evaluate when deciding if it's time to end a client relationship. They also discuss the different talking points to use with agency staff when bringing outsourcing into the operations.

    Should Growth Opportunities in the Insurance Industry be Contingent on a College Degree?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2020 18:15


    Beverage – Sidecar Part 1: Can I have a successful career in insurance without a college degree? Part 2: How should agencies approach the policy review process? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share their thoughts on what value a college degree has when building a career in the insurance industry. They also discuss the importance of combining proactive conversations with a formalized annual review process.

    The Pros & Cons of Using a CRM

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 6, 2020 17:26


    Beverage – Gin Fizz Part 1: What should agencies look for in a CRM system? Part 2: What options does an employee have when their workload suddenly doubles? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share their thoughts and experience on the challenges, features, and options available when using CRM system. They also provide a few ideas on how an employee can address concerns when they are unexpectedly given additional responsibilities.

    How do I Prepare for Opening My Own Agency?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2020 23:28


    Beverage – New York Sour Part 1: What advice would you give for making the leap from agency employee to agency owner? Part 2: What benefits do agencies need to offer to attract new talent? In this episode, Justin and Jordan share their recommendations on the tools and resources to utilize when starting a new agency. They also discuss the legitimacy of unlimited benefits being a make or break to potential new hires.

    What Do You Do When a Producer Goes M.I.A.?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2020 17:59


    Beverage – High Noon Grapefruit Vodka & Soda Part 1: How can an Account Manager address the fallout created by a producer who is never available? Part 2: Should agencies try to accommodate special scheduling requests? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss how to address problems created by an absentee agent. They also share some thoughts on different factors agencies need to consider when a full-time employee suddenly wants to go part-time.

    The Struggle is Real When Attempting to Understand Reports From the AMS

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 15, 2020 21:41


    Beverage – BuzzBallz Horchata Part 1: How do agency leaders translate report data into effective action? Part 2: Should all employees have access to the same privileges? Show Notes: In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the challenges agency leaders face when trying to decipher confusing reports from the agency management system. They also share their thoughts around flexible scheduling and creating a consistent standard throughout the company.

    How Do Agencies Continue to Find Prospects When Traditional Methods Won't Work?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2020 16:44


    Beverage – Mike's Harder Green Apple Part 1: What are some new ways producers can build relationships with clients and prospects? Part 2: What should agencies do to manage issues with agency bill premiums? Show Notes: In this episode, Justin and Jordan give advice on new ways producers can reach their ideal candidate when the conventional ways of meeting them are no longer an option. They also share some thoughts on how agencies can regain control of problematic agency bill balances.

    What To Do When Processes and Personalities Don't Mix

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 1, 2020 22:57


    Beverage: Tom Collins Part 1: What should agencies do to overcome clogs in the data gathering and submission process? Part 2: How can employees move beyond interpersonal conflict? Show Notes: In this episode, Justin and Jordan provide insight on steps agencies can take to simplify the quoting process in a way that will ultimately use everyone's time more efficiently and drive more consistent results. They also share their thoughts on importance of navigating personality differences and focusing on appreciating skills that colleagues bring to the agency.

    Do Professional Designations Really Matter?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 25, 2020 25:57


    Beverage: Whiskey Sour Part 1: What should agencies consider when determining goals for the organization? Part 2: What is most valuable when it comes to insurance education and designations? Show Notes: In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the various factors agency leaders should consider when developing organization wide goals. They also weigh the pros and cons of the different options available for insurance education and debate the value of professional designations.

    What Should Agencies Do When a System Conversion Does Not Go as Planned?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2020 20:40


    Beverage: Haley's Sangria Part 1: How can agencies adjust their approach when struggling to make the transition to a new Agency Management System? Part 2 : What should a new employee do when the agency doesn't provide the right resources? In this episode Justin & Jordan discuss the steps agencies can take when working through obstacles encountered during an agency management system conversion. They also share thoughts on how a new employee can create the resources they need that will set them up for success in their role.

    How Should Agencies Leverage Social Media to Expand Their Brand in 2020?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 11, 2020 18:28


    Beverage: A Tekiwi Part 1: What qualities should agency owners look for when hiring? The job market in the insurance industry continues to get more aggressive. The need for bringing talent in is being felt at many agencies regardless of size or location. And while there may be several responses to a job posting, not every potential hire is going to be the right hire for the agency.

    How Do Agencies Manage the Continued Disruption Caused by COVID-19?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2020 20:46


    Beverage - Kamikaze Part 1: What should employees do when they are struggling to manage work at home? Part 2: How do agencies handle the conversation around premium refund directives? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the critical importance of communication as employees face new challenges managing work in a remote environment. They also take a few minutes to discuss the merit of information from the insurance commissioner's office regarding premium refunds and what strategies agents can use when discussing this topic with clients.

    What Should Agencies Evaluate When Attempting to Cut Costs?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 27, 2020 15:32


    Beverage: The Libertine Part 1: How can agencies manage expenses as revenues shrink during COVID-19? Part 2: What should agency owners consider when deciding if employees should continue remote work or return to the office? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss different approaches agencies can take to handle finances as revenues drop and budgets are tight. They also share their experiences from the last few weeks as many employees have been working remotely.

    What Strategies Should Agencies and Producers Use to Overcome Challenges Presented by the Pandemic?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 20, 2020 19:43


    Beverage: Michter's Single Barrel 10 Year Bourbon and Michter's Single Barrel 10 Year Straight Rye Part 1: Where can producers put their focus to continue succeeding despite massive business closures during the pandemic? Part 2: How should agencies invest during time of economic uncertainty? In this episode, Justin and Jordan debate the whether focusing on a specific niche can be a winning strategy for producers as more and more businesses shut down as a result of the pandemic. They also share how lessons learned in 2008 have helped them prepare for another recession.

    Valuable Lessons Learned So Far During COVID-19

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 13, 2020 22:06


    Beverage: Tequila Esperanto Seleccion Añejo Part 1: How can agency employees find job security in the middle economic uncertainty caused by COVID-19? Part 2: What kind of impact should agencies expect as a result of COVID-19? In this episode, Justin and Jordan discuss the challenges insurance agencies, as well as other businesses, are facing as they weather the financial complications caused by Coronavirus. The guys also make predictions about the effect Coronavirus will have on the insurance industry.

    How Does an Agency Shift for Success During a Pandemic?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 20:36


    Beverage of Choice: Old Fashioned with a Twist Part 1: How do you know what employees are up to in a remote work environment? Part 2: How and why agents should continue adding value and building relationships with prospects. In this episode, Justin and Jordan talk about best practices when managing a remote workforce and how agents can continue successfully prospecting by providing valuable information to potential customers.

    Slow to Hire, Fast to Fire.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 30, 2020 21:00


    Beverage of Choice: Bulleit on the Rocks Part 1: Strong leadership is required when it comes to challenging conversations with employees. Part 2: What options do employees have when the office decor is less than desirable In this episode, Justin & Jordan chat about creating employee accountability when it comes to declining performance and provide numerous suggestions on giving new life to a tired office space.

    When Management Doesn't Pay You The Agreed Upon Bonus

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2020 18:11


    Beverage of Choice: Corona Part 1: What is the right approach when agency leadership tries to back out on paying a bonus? Part 2: How do you get all departments working together when cross-selling is part of your growth and retention strategy? In this episode, Justin & Jordan discuss the why and how an employee can address issues with agency leadership when a bonus is retracted as well as how consistent leadership and data play an important role in a cross-selling initiative.

    Industry Consolidation - What Are Best Practices for Team Building During M&A?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 16, 2020 27:20


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Bootleg Part 1: How do you keep things friendly when tensions run high during an acquisition Part 2: What do you do when one employee is creating a stressful work environment for the entire office?

    The Office Newbie Is Forced to Take the Meetings with Carrier Marketing Reps

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 9, 2020 24:09


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Mojito Part 1: The low person on the totem pole is stuck meeting with carrier marketing reps and wants some help Part 2: Agency management doesn't want to pay for employee development, but expects the employee to report on their findings from conferences

    Death By Meetings

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2020 21:59


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Skinny Jalapeno Margarita Part 1: An employee wants to know what to do when a co-worker confides in them about unethical behavior Part 2: How do you get leadership to operate meetings in a constructive manner?

    How Do You Address Issues Around Sexism and Gender Discrimination in Your Organization?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 24, 2020 19:21


    Cocktails: Justin tries a White Russian Part 1: An HR Manager inquires about addressing a unprofessional commentary from an agent. Part 2: How should a manager handle wage gap issues between male and female employees?

    What Was the Biggest Mistake You Made in Your Career?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 17, 2020 21:41


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Snakebite Part 1: A employee wants to know how to combat rumors an gossip that have turned the office into one giant game of survivor Part 2: What is the biggest mistake you made in your insurance career, and what was the fallout?

    How Much Financial Transparency Should There Be Between Agency Principals and Employees?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2020 31:26


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Manhattan Part 1: An employee is upset that the agency owner avoids sharing financials so they don't have to justify raises or bonuses. Part 2: How much access to financial information do you give your bookkeeper?

    Should My Son Work Elsewhere Before Coming into Our Family Agency?

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2020 26:18


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Negroni Part 1: A parent wants to know if they should send their son to another agency to learn prior to joining the family agency. Part 2: The younger and older generation of a family agency can't see eye to eye - should they split up?

    How Do I Maximize My First 12 Months in the Insurance Industry?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 27, 2020 18:22


    Cocktails: Justin tries a Paloma Part 1: An employee received an opportunity outside of the industry, but wants to know how easy it would be to come back if it doesn't work out. Part 2: A new hire wants to know the best steps to success in their first 12 months.

    Racial Challenges for Producers in the 21st Century... It's Still an Issue

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 20, 2020 23:31


    Part 1: A producer tells an account manager they are switching agencies and taking their book. What is the account managers ethical obligation to tell management? Intermission: Justin tries a Kombrewcha (Hard Kombucha) Part 2: An agency owner wants to be honest about the challenges an African American producer at his agency may face with clients

    How Do I Convince my Agency to Provide Me with a Larger Marketing Budget?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 12, 2020 19:13


    Part 1: A producer receives higher than normal commission splits, but not enough marketing resources Intermission: Justin tries a Guinness Part 2: What is the appropriate dress code for agency employees?

    How Do I Tell an Employee of the Opposite Sex That They Need to Wear Deodorant?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2020 19:13


    Part 1: The agency owner brought his son in as a new producer, and I wanted the job Intermission: Justin tries a Ketel Soda Lime (extra lime!) Part 2: A male agency owner needs to talk hygiene with a female employee

    A Producer Tries to Find the Balance Between New Business Activity and Quote-to-Bind Ratio

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 30, 2019 22:09


    Part 1: An office romance at off-site team building activity Intermission: Justin tries Veuve Clicquot Champagne Part 2: A producer is getting pressure from the agency owner on his quote-to-bind ratio because the carriers are putting pressure on the agency

    Christmas & Chanukah Edition: A Millennial, a Gen X'r, and 2 Mediators Walk Into a Bar (To Save a Family Business)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2019 29:39


    Justin and Jordan discuss the challenges they faced as brothers who are business partners. What they learned about themselves, each other, and how they overcame the obstacles that almost caused the relationship to dissolve. Drink of Choice: Joseph Phelps 2016 Cabernet Sauvignon

    Help! My Agency is Requiring Me to Pay the SIR on an E&O Claim Caused by My Account Manager

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2019 19:54


    Part 1: We started utilizing an outsourcing company, but my account managers say they are busier than ever Intermission: Justin tries a Dirty Martini Part 2: A producer is required to pay the $10,000 SIR on an E&O claim caused by the account manager

    Are Account Managers Second Class Citizens?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 9, 2019 23:19


    Part 1: An Account Manager is frustrated because she can't leave work to see her kids play sports, but the producer is allowed to Intermission: Justin tries a Moscow Mule Part 2: My staff doesn't want to train the new hires

    My New Hire Won't Stop Talking About His Old Agency, And It's Killing Morale

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 2, 2019 26:10


    Part 1: A new hire wants to keep talking about the ways they did things at their old agency Intermission: Justin tries a Grapefruit Goodman Part 2: An account manager wants to stop getting bulldozed by the client

    How Can My Small Agency Attract Talent Without The Budget of Larger Firms?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 25, 2019 27:20


    Part 1: The account manager does the work and the producer gets paid for it Intermission: Justin tries Green Flash - West Coast IPA Part 2: An agency owner wants to hire and retain strong talent without the budget of larger agencies

    My Top Producer is the Main Cause of Staff Turnover

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2019 28:06


    Part 1: The top producer is causing major staff turnover issues Intermission: Justin tries Lagavulin 16 Part 2: An account manager has to hand bad news to the insured, and it was the agency's fault

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