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If you've run a marathon, you'll know the final 385 yards once you pass the 26 mile marker is just the tiny tip of a massive iceberg which includes months of sacrifice, commitment and dedication. Join us as three experienced marathon runners share their weekly ups and downs through training blocks, with each series covering the build up to spring and autumn marathons. We started with Chris and Andrew's block to Valencia in December 2023. Next up is the build to London marathon in April 2024 Follow us on Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/beyond385yards/?hl=en Meet your hosts Chris Fawcett Power of 10 - https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=884044 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/chrisfawcett1/ Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/27180622?oq=chris%20faw Karl Welborn Power of 10 - https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=1068573 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/karl_welborn Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/591185?oq=karl Andrew Drake Power of 10 - https://www.thepowerof10.info/athletes/profile.aspx?athleteid=140699 Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/moaverage Strava - https://www.strava.com/athletes/2020367

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    London marathon debrief with Chris after we talk why your blood iron count is important and training in non carbon shoes.

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2024 69:19


    As we close out season 2, we cover;Our favourite mile of the London marathonHow a low iron level was flagged by Drakey's ringOur respective training weeks in 7 minutes.Training in non carbon shoes.Chris' debrief from London marathon, including key lessons learned.

    Chris' final week before London marathon! What happened to the big showdown in Bath? Manchester marathon recap and Taylor Swift

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2024 65:42


    This week we cover;What's your favourite Taylor Swift song?Manchester marathon recapShout out to Robbie Cresswell-Howe for going sub 17 over 5k7 days of training in 7 minutesChris' look ahead to London marathonWhat to expect on the big dayJoin our Whatsapp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslGood luck to everyone running the London marathon this weekend.

    Training structure in the final weeks before a marathon. Hints and tips for London marathon. What are these Good For Age changes?

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 8, 2024 66:17


    Join us at the Bristol Track Club 5K race this Saturday!This week we coverChanges to London GFA timesHints and tips for running the London marathon - in the days before and the race itselfStructuring training in those final few weeks - which sessions to do?If you've been ill a few weeks before the race, what should you do?7 days training in 7 minutesWill sleeves guarantee me fast times?Bristol Track Club 5K race day and the big showdown. Chris Fawcett vs Adam Hill. Who's going to win?!

    Debriefs from the two big Easter showdowns. Plus should we train when ill? Drakey's ring predicts when illness is on its way

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2024 69:57


    For this Easter special we've got debriefs from the two big showdowns.Chris Fawcett vs Tom Squires at Maidenhead 10 on Good FridayKarl Welborn vs Andrew Drake at Cardiff Parkrun on Holy SaturdayNothing else really matters this episode but we do also cover;Should we train when illDrakey's ring predicting illness7 days in 7 minutes for our respective training weeksListener questionsJoin the WhatsApp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxsl

    Listener feedback on executing on a 20-miler, why 10k speed is important for a marathon and making significant gains off threshold work.

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 25, 2024 76:18


    Lots covered this week including,A listener shares his experience of executing our idea on a 20-mile race as part of a marathon block. Go team!Why getting 10k fit is an important part of planning a marathon blockMaking significant gains using threshold pace in sessionsKarl has set a running goal!The good, bad and ugly of our training weeks (Chris is fighting motorists again)Drakey's ring updateA preview of the big showdowns taking place over the Easter weekened.

    Part 2 of 2 - Karl's training week and listener questions from episode 10

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2024 23:31


    After resolving some technical issues, we're back to finish episode 10.We cover Karl's training week and then learnDid Chris finish his pizza?Favourite race distanceHow does the other half deal with marathon training taking priority?

    Part 1 of 2. Lens on London for Chris as only 5 weeks to go and Drakey's ring - the biggest podcast segment in the UK right now

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 18, 2024 40:42


    We had a software issue this week, meaning the final 20 minutes should be available later in the week. Before we had our malfunction, we coveredBath half and their £50 entry fee for early birdsDrakey's ring - what does the science tell us?Was it Galileo who suggested the earth was flat?How was Andrew's first week of structured training in a while?A lens on London for Chris with only five weeks toLooking ahead to the big showdown in Cardiff on 30th March.What didn't we cover?Karl's training weekListener questionsLook out for the second part of the episode coming soon

    NEW SEGMENT ALERT - Drakey's ring, Welborn vs Drake in Cardiff, squirrels and going easy like Phil Sesemann

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 11, 2024 73:16


    We're back with epsiode 9 of season 2 and we have a new segment!This week we cover;Who's your favourite GallagherCheshire 10kThe good, bad and ugly of our training weeks (inluding random reference to squirrels)Is mileage king?What can we learn from Phil Sesemann about running easy?Bouncing back from marathonsDrakey's ring - NEW SEGMENT!!Catering arrangements for BTC 5k Race Day just for Ian ConnockWelborn vs Drake face off at Cardiff Parkrun on 30th March.Can you believe we do all of that in 70 minutes?!

    We have an intra pod race on the horizon! Karl is back doing massive sessions again. How should GB select its Olympic marathon team?

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2024 65:45


    We're back for season 2, episode 8.Join our Strava club https://www.strava.com/clubs/beyond385yardsJoin our Whatsapp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslThis week we cover;A Tokyo marathon debrief (of sorts)How should the GB marathon team be selected? Should we use the USA model of a trial?The good, bad and ugly of our respective training week. Karl is back doing massive sessions again. Andrew raced cross-country. Chris is back up to 80 miles for the week.Andrew and Karl are going toe to toe at Cardiff Parkrun!How much data is too much?Plans for the week ahead.

    When and how to do a 20-miler in a marathon block. Which non-carbon shoes are best for a session? Who's doing the Maidenhead 10-mile race??

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 26, 2024 70:58


    This week we cover;Our respective training weeks with Andrew doing sod all, Chris back up to 75 miles and Karl staunchly defending how many hours he spends in the gym.Which non-carbon shoes are best for a session?Listener questions, which includeFirst marathon time and progression to todayWhy does everyone where vests and not t-shirts racing?Did we know there's a dog feature now on Strava?How should we use a 20-mile race in a marathon training block?Plans for the week.Maidenhead 10-mile race

    Only 9 weeks until London (eek

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 19, 2024 64:53


    We're back on the day of Seville marathon.Phil Sesemann runs 2:08:04 in Seville, but what's his favourite Lidl pastry?Parkrun issued an open letter to its community on Valentines Day - why couldn't they do that the week before?The good, bad and ugly of our respective training weeks. Karl's progress in just a month is outstanding!What's the ideal diet for marathon training?Finding your big boy/girl pants when it gets tough in training / a race.Pacing a race when GPS is all over the place.

    Have Parkrun made anyone happy with their website changes? Making excuses for not doing evening sessions and cheesy Doritos for breakfast.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 12, 2024 54:40


    We're back with epsiode 5.This week our discussion is focused mostly on the recent changes to Parkrun's website, including the removal of course records and age grades. Does anyone believe the reasoning given in their press release?And we cover the good, bad and ugly of our respective training weeks with Chris now just 70 days from the London marathon.

    Where was last week's episode? £6 for a coffee. Chris runs a PB. Getting caught out with a toilet emergency.

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 5, 2024 67:45


    Sign up to the Bristol Track Club 5k race day on 13th April 2024 at https://data.opentrack.run/en-gb/x/2024/GBR/apr-24-road-btc-5km/Join our WhatsApp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslWe're back for episode 4 of season 2 and this week we cover;Surely everyone has watched the Rocky films?What happened to last week's episode?Getting caught with a toilet emergency whilst running - a horror story courtesy of Facebook.The good, the bad and the ugly of our respective training weeks, including a 10km PB for Chris.How much is too much to pay for a coffee?Is weekly mileage of 40-40-40-40-40-40 better than 80-0-80-0-80-0? The importance of consistency.Redicovering a 'why' after smashing our goals.Plans for the week ahead.

    Doggy parkrun, favourite song to get you pumped, training for the Boston hills and Karl wins 'training week of the week'

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 22, 2024 60:46


    We're back for the third episode of season 2.This week Karl's training week wins the 'training week of the week' award. A new trophy unlikely to make another appearance.We coverThe good, bad and the ugly of our respective training weeks, which includes Chris ditching his 4 x 7 minutes session and taking a dog to Parkrun instead.Running in -52 degress.Training for the hills of Boston marathonOur favourite motivational song when running.Plans for the week ahead.

    Is everyone on the juice? Chris' £150 massages. Saunas over cold water and seeing the pros of the treadmill in winter

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 15, 2024 61:05


    We're back with season two!Join our WhatsApp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslLots to cover this week as the training starts to ramp up again.This week we cover;Can we believe these race times these days with another WR in Valencia 10k?The good, the bad and the ugly of our training weeks including Chris going to the gym. Really?!?Taking the positives from treadmill sessions when it's icy outside.Is a sauna better for recovery than cold water immersion?Plans for the week ahead.Join us next week to see if Andrew got his upgrade on BA!

    Karl saves a life. Who's your favourite running influencer? Finding the motivation to go again & structuring a long spring training block.

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2024 63:00


    We're back with season two!Links to mentions in this week's show.Bristol Track Club 5k race day https://data.opentrack.run/en-gb/x/2024/GBR/apr-24-road-btc-5km/BTND on Strava https://www.strava.com/clubs/BTNDJoin our WhatsApp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslWe're back and pressing on with preparations for Berlin half marathon and London marathon.This week we cover;Who's your favourite social media running influencer?How many group WhatsApp chats is too many?Finding the motivation for another big training block five weeks after ValenciaHow do we structure the 13/15 weeks until our respective races?The good, the bad and the ugly of our training weeks. Including Karl literally saving a life through administering CPR.Plans for the week ahead.

    Balancing a social life (if you have one!) and training. Structuring S&C. What's on our Santa list this year?

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 18, 2023 67:46


    It's a wrap for season 1.Join our Whatsapp group https://chat.whatsapp.com/EJ0IV08yhaAC9hQmaVjxslWe're back on 8th January as we build for spring race. Until then, we wrap up season 1 with a listeners' questions special.Favourite mince pie brand - Adam HillBiggest lesson learned in running this year - Steve TurnerHow have you found balancing social demands with a strict training block? James GeorgiouHow do you stay motivated through a long-term injury? Any tips through the long, winter nights? Martin GreenWhich S&C exercises do you recommend adding to a marathon block? And how often? Tom SquiresIf you could ask Santa for one running-related present, what would it be? (AF3s not allowed) - Adam HillWhat's the difference in workload / strategy from a sub 3 to a championship time? Is it achievable for everyone? James Georgiou

    Sprouts and Creme Eggs. Post-marathon gluttony. And lessons learned that we take into the next block.

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 11, 2023 67:44


    It's the week after the Sunday before.This week we cover;A full week of recovery and eating the things we avoided during training.Returning to running. Chris had his eyes on a Parkrun course record six days after a marathon and there we some Valencians in Telford this week.Lessons we learned in this training block, including what we'll do more or less of for the next marathon block.2024 marathon plans - should Andrew do London? Is Valencia the perfect timing for Chris after he gets married?How good does the Alphafly 3 look?Plans for the week ahead.

    Valencia marathon! The full race debrief

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 4, 2023 62:49


    This week it's all about Valencia marathon. Is it the best marathon in the world?No need for a lenghy episode desription this week, it's all about the marathon itself.Karl is the man with the questions as we dissect Chris and Andrew's race.

    When should you put the hammer down in a marathon? And it was Super Saturday at Parkrun with PBs all over the place

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 27, 2023 62:56


    We're just one week from Valencia!Click here to join our Whatsapp groupThis week we cover;A recap of our training weeks, focusing on Super Saturday at both Dulwich and Cardiff Parkruns with PBs for Chris and Andrew.Listener questions• When do you put the hammer down in a marathon? Is 25km too early? Is the 20-mile mark the right time?• What's our favourite part of the taper phase?• If people are in Valencia supporting, what should they be shouting to runners as motivation?Plans for the week ahead.

    Do you eat your mince pies with cream? Chris has been out literally saving lives. What happens to the podcast after Valencia marathon?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 20, 2023 64:50


    The podcast has a Whatsapp group! Click here to join.It's just two weeks until Valencia marathon.This week we cover;If you feel a twinge that might be a recurrence of an old injury two weeks from marathon race day, should you still run or back off?The good, bad and ugly of our training weeks. Karl has been told to stop yoga. Chris is out saving lives. Andrew should retire from the track.Listener questionsCan you do all of your mileage on a treadmill?When to carry on with a niggle or take a week or two off.What happens to the pod after Valencia? Of course it carries on!Plans for the week ahead.

    How many miles per week to run a decent marathon time? Squeezing in missed training after illness and what about cross country?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 13, 2023 57:59


    It's episode 11 and only 3 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;The final big sessions of our the marathon block. 28km at MP for Chris and 4 x 4 miles off 1 mile float for Andrew.Questions answered on.......How many miles per week do we need to be doing to run a decent marathon?If I've missed the past couple of weeks because of illness, should I add more volume/intensity in the next week before Valencia?Can cross country fit into marathon training?Plans for the week ahead.

    The mental side of a big training week. Twats that set off fire works past 9pm. And which shoes for race day?

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 6, 2023 61:33


    It's episode 10 and only 4 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. Chris is out abusing motorists, Andrew chopped and changed enough to send Karl mad.No listener questions but some great debate on.......The mental side of training weeks being just as important as physical.Idiots that set off fireworks late into the evening scaring kids and dogs as well as disrupting important sleep for people training for a marathon.What's our choice of race shoe?Plans for the week ahead.

    Those people that log times on dodgy GPS loops as PBs on Strava. Can quality training & alcohol consumption co-exist? 5 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 30, 2023 58:35


    It's episode 9 and only 5 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. Karl is in Spain and missing his hot yoga but loving his ice-cold swimming pool. No more knee sliding through Bushy Park for Chris but a couple of big sessions. And Andrew has nailed his two monster sessions for the week.No listener questions but some spicy debate on.......Those people that use dodgy GPS loops to claim PBs - even worse the people that try to do it when using a track or when racing on an officially measured course.What's a realistic target for Valencia marathon? Chris won't commit.Can alcohol consumption and quality marathon training co-exist?Plans for the week ahead.

    Karl has been running! Auto lap or manual in a marathon? Structuring your training week the right way and CBD oils. 6 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 23, 2023 60:47


    It's episode 8 and only 6 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. Karl ran three times last week! Chris going for a trip at Bushy Park Parkrun and Andrew hitting a big Sunday marathon session. Listener questionsShould we autolap our watch each mile in a marathon? Every 5k? (tomcsquires)A sypnosis of a podcast on strength training following on from last week's question on the same topic.How should we structure our training week? (Sean Lee)Training fad of the week - CBD oilsPlans for the week ahead.

    Manchester half debrief. How should we set marathon targets? And how not to experience 'runner's guts'. 7 weeks until Valencia marathon

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 16, 2023 57:56


    It's episode 7 and only 7 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;A recap of Chris' outstanding time at Manchester half marathon.The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. Karl went for a run! Plus hear the long-winded version of how Andrew landed on NOT doing Bath half marathon the day after his first pain-free run for nearly two weeks.Listener questionsHow should you set and adjust marathon targets? (impactknow)Runners' guts.Tips or tricks (mikeproudfoot)Where do we start with S&C as a complete beginner (louise.collins21)What's the minimum strength work someone can get away with? (chance738)Plans for the week ahead.

    Should we all be doing hot yoga? Or is cold water therapy the magic we all need? 8 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 9, 2023 65:58


    It's episode 6 and only 8 weeks until Valencia marathon!This week we cover;A brief recap of the outstanding performances at Chicago marathon.The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. (spoiler alert. Chris is back to nearly 100 miles. Karl/s life is now all about hot yoga. Andrew's been getting dry needling treatment).Should we all be doing hot yoga? Karl shares his experience of sweating A LOT whilst doing some poses.Listener questionsWhich of the US majors do you fancy the most, why and do you have any plans to head there? (charlieedwards23)Is Karl on Only Fans? (anon)Favourite marathon paced session (ahillrunner)Training fad of the week: cold water immersionPlans for the week ahead.

    Berlin debrief with Lizzie. Perfect marathon pacing and how should we recover post race? 9 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2023 67:26


    It's episode 5 and this week it's Andrew, Chris and Karl for the first 20 minutes before Lizzie joins us for a Berlin marathon debrief.This week we cover;The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. (spoiler alert. More Zwift for Karl, Chris back up to 68 miles and Andrew has a sore hamstring)A debrief of Berlin marathon with Lizzie. Did she have a german sausage?Listener questionsHow to pace the marathon perfectly (taken from the Sub 3 Marathon group on Facebook)Ideal recovery post marathon and when to start running again.Plans for the week ahead.

    Midland Road Relays, Chris' achilles woes and it's Berlin race day. 10 weeks until Valencia.

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2023 63:29


    We're back for episode 4 and this week it's Andrew, Chris and Karl. Lizzie is in Berlin running a 2.5 minute PB so should be back with us next week.Lots covered this week, including;Karl gloating about BRAT's performance at the Midland Road RelaysA recap of Berlin maratuon, including Lizzie's outstanding performance.The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. (spoiler alert. Lots of good for Andrew. Karl has been on Zwift and Chris' achilles is on the mend.Training fad of the week got merged with listener questions.Listener questionsOpinions on double threshold trainingHow far out from a marathon could you realistically race a half without jeopordising the marathon?Would we rather be Josh Lunn for a day or Karl Welborn for a month?Super shoes. Placebo or genuinely helping to run faster?Plans for the week ahead.

    How much fruit toast is too much? Do massage guns work? 11 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 18, 2023 63:06


    We're back for episode 3 and this week it's Andrew, Chris and Karl. Lots covered this week, including;Andrew's change of approach for Valencia. Forget the half marathon, it's all in for the A race.The good, bad and the ugly of our training weeks. (spoiler alert. Lots of good for Andrew. Lots of bad and ugly for Chris and Karl)Training fad of the week. Massage guns.Listener questionsIs having a coach paramount to achieving our goals?Do we rotate our running shoes?Favourite gym sessionHow much fruit toast is too much?Plans for the week ahead.Please follow on whichever platform you get your podcasts from and leave us feedback through our Instagram page.

    Lizzie's hosting debut. How slow should easy runs be? 12 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 11, 2023 72:24


    We have a full house of four co-hosts this week as Lizzie joins us.Topics covered this week.An introduction from LizzieWhat do we mean by sub-elite and who is this podcast for? (answers - we don't know and for everyone that wants to improve their marathon times)What's going on with Karl's running and how did he manage to break himself?Lizzie's road to Berlin and why she can't wait for a German sausage afterwardsThe good, bad and ugly of our training weeks including did Chris have a rest day?Listener questionshow slow should easy runs be?any techniques we use when the going gets tough in a marathonThe training week ahead.Thank you for listening. Please share feedback through Instagram and leave a review on whichever platform you use for your podcasts.

    Launch time baby! Does beetroot do more than make your wee purple? Cardiff 10k pain. 13 weeks until Valencia

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 4, 2023 59:45


    Welcome to our launch episode!For our first episode it's Andrew, Karl and Chris on the mics as Lizzie couldn't make it. But don't worry, we'll have her with us next week (we hope).After a brief introduction from our guests we cover,The good, the bad and the ugly of our respective training weeks. This includes a summary of a pretty terrible effort at the Cardiff 10K from Andrew.Training fad of the week - beetroot juice? Does it work beyond giving you purple wee?Looking ahead to the next week of training.Follow us on instagram @beyond385yards and DM us any questions you have for next week's episode.

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