Footnotes with Jemar Tisby

There is a movement of people who grew up in evangelical Christianity out of those circles. These are ex-evangelicals or "exvangelicals."  Now Sarah McCammon, a politics reporter for NPR, has given us the first book-length treatment of this movement and the individuals within it.  In this interview we talk about her very evangelical upbringing (and wax nostalgic about growing up in the 90s along the way). She tells us her thoughts about what's leading to this disillusionment with evangelicalism. We talk about how race affects people differently within and outside evangelicalism. And she tells us what it's like to be a journalist in these politically tenuous times.  Order "The Exvangelicals" here.  Buy my books: JemarTisby.com/Books  Subscribe to my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Get your merch: JusticeTakesSides.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I have often said, "White Christian nationalism is the greatest threat to democracy and the witness of the church in the United States today." Now there's a documentary showing and telling why this is true.  I talk to Dan Partland, the director of "God & Country" a feature-length documentary film that "takes a closer look at the dangerous implications and explores how a base of Christians has radically stoked a movement erasing the line between Church and State."  Partland explains how he approached the delicate tension of truth-telling while still engaging a potentially skeptical audience. He describes how film can be a uniquely effective medium for opening people to dialogue. And we explore the controversy that has already surrounded the film.  See the "God & Country" trailer here.  By my books: JemarTisby.com/Books  Subscribe to my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Get your merch: JusticeTakesSides.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Michael Wear is the author of The Spirit of Our Politics. It's a book that takes a fresh approach to how faith and politics should interact. Instead of beginning with policies, pundits, or politicians, Wear encourages us to begin with our own spiritual formation.  We talk about everything from our similar conversion stories in evangelical contexts to how to engage people with radically different political persuasions.  Order The Spirit of Our Politics HERE.  Be sure to subscribe to my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Get your merch here: JusticeTakesSides.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Finally, finally, finally you can pre-order my latest book The Spirit of Justice: Stories of Faith, Race, and Resistance! This is a book for all those who are weary and heavy-laden. It encourages you by telling the true stories of people who found reservoirs of strength—what I call the spirit of justice—to resist oppression and keep on keeping on. If you pre-order the book you get several bonuses. You get exclusive access to the first chapter of the book. You get access to my keynote message from “The Color of Compromise 5-Year Anniversary Event” where I give a talk titled: Three Characteristics of Historical Truth-Seekers. Finally, you get 30% off when you order from ChristianBook.com or the guaranteed lowest price when you order from Amazon. Plus, pre-orders help put the book on the radar for other bookstores so it can be distributed widely, and they are a huge part of helping a book get on bestseller lists. So tell everyone! Tell you local library, indie bookstore, church, seminary, college, and more to get copies of the book. Share this message on social media and with your friends. Pre-orders are now OPEN!!!  Remember to support historical truth-telling and racial justice: Subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com Get your racial justice merch! JusticeTakesSides.com   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

I went to Northern Ireland as part of an endeavor hosted by the Calvin Institute of Christian Worship and the Telos Group. We were looking at justice and peacemaking in the context of worship. To that end we visited places such as Corrymeela, Derry, Giant's Causeway, Clonard Monastery, and Stormont just to name a few. In this very special episode of Footnotes, I offer some of my reflections about the trip. The journey deeply impacted me, and I hope this is not my last trip to Northern Ireland! Read more HERE. Be sure to subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com And get your merch at JusticeTakesSides.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode I talk with first-time author Ronald Olivier whose life is a movie...or at least a book. He wrote "27 Summers: My Journey to Freedom, Forgiveness, and Redemption During My Time in Angola Prison." As a historian and racial justice advocate, I've made incarceration one of my primary areas of focus in terms of action and raising awareness. That's why I was honored and excited to talk to Ronald about his experiences in Angola Prison and what he has share with us now that he's on the other side. You'll fee like you could listen to Ronald tell stories all day. Especially because of his mellifluous Louisiana accent. You will also be inspired by the depth and richness of his faith. He's sincere when he says he lives by the motto: "Don't tell me what God can't do!" Support Ronald's Work: Get the Book: 27 Summers Follow Ronald on IG: @RonaldSlim75 Follow Ronald on FB: Ronald Olivier Support Jemar's Work Subscribe + Rate + Review the Footnotes podcast Subscribe to my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Get your merch: JusticeTakesSide.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Racism, white supremacy, and the attempt to control Black bodies didn't go away after the Civil War. As I often say, "Racism never goes away, it adapts." One of the ways racism persists is through our criminal legal system, especially the death penalty.  Joia Erin Thornton is the founder and executive director of the faith leaders of color coalition (flocc). Through her organization she works toward eliminating capital punishment in the carceral system. She talks about her journey into this work and why faith leaders need to be involved.  Episode Highlights:  How growing up in the South (Memphis and New Orleans) influenced her ideas of justice How her parents taught her mother predicted Joia would grow up to be a "changemaker"  Why ending the death penalty is a bipartisan political issue The role of hope in justice work and ending the death penalty  Visit the flocc website ------ Be sure to subscribe, rate, and review this podcast.  Get your "Justice Takes Sides" merch: justicetakessides.com  Keep up with my latest work at JemarTisby.Substack.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

How do you keep the flame of justice burning in the midst of so much misery and disappointment? A new book, Heart on Fire: 100 Meditations on Loving Your Neighbor Well, is just what you need.  In this episode I get to interview first-time author and long-time artist, Dani Coke Balfour. We talk about how art relates to activism and how all of us have a role to play in doing "good work."  Be sure to grab your copy of Heart on Fire wherever books are sold!  Buy the Book On Amazon Bookshop Episode Highlights:  The difference between "equity" and "equality"  Why it's better to have "conscious optimism" rather than "cautious optimism" Why imagination is indispensable to justice  Ten Pillars of Good Work  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On this episode of Footnotes, join me as I delve into an enlightening conversation with the esteemed author Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley, discussing his highly anticipated new book "How Far to the Promised Land."  Episode Highlights:  We talk about how Black Christians in white evangelical spaces get "pushed out, burned out, or sell out" and how McCaulley has endured in his place of work  How he thinks about his interracial marriage in view of the historic and ongoing Black experience with racism  What he teaches his biracial children about racial identity and the role of police in the midst of anti-Black police brutality  McCaulley gets on his soapbox about an issue that's at the forefront of his attention right now My endorsement: In his latest book, How Far to the Promised Land, Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley says we are people made of "trauma and miracles." In this memoir you will see evidence of both as he relates the difficulties of his childhood alongside the resilient and caring community that ushers him into his destiny. A brisk and engaging narrative full of practical and spiritual wisdom, How Far to the Promised Land is a revelatory look at the U.S. South, race, poverty, and the strength needed not only to live with one's past but make peace with it. Get the book: How Far to the Promised Land Subscribe to my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Get your merch: JusticeTakesSide.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

According to a Psychology Today article, racial and ethnic minorities represent 30 percent of the population, yet 83.6 percent of mental health professionals identify as non-Hispanic White. And only about 5 percent of students enrolled in graduate level psychology programs are Black.  Adebisi Gbadamosi is a Black woman therapist who specializes in addressing racial and religious trauma. She specializes in working with peo[le of color to process racial trauma, Christians to process faith-related trauma, and women wanting to work through any aspect of life. In this episode she talks about her journey into mental health care, her painful experiences with race and white evangelical churches, and general coping skills for those who have endured trauma of various sorts.  Learn more about "Bisi" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The United States has five percent of the world's population but 25 percent of its incarcerated individuals. But the statistics only tell part of the story. Behind the numbers are real people.  Stanley Frankart is someone who made it out of the prison system and is now helping others to do the same.  Through the nonprofit he co-founded, Young Christian Professionals, Frankart and his team offer character education and professional development to reduce rates of recidivism.  Learn More:  -Young Chrisitan Professionals: youngchristianprofessionals.org -Vera Institute: vera.org  -Prison Policy Initiative: prisonpolicy.org -The Witness Foundation: thewitnessfoundation.co  FIGHTING RACISM is a miniseries powered by FOOTNOTES WITH JEMAR TISBY and is made in collaboration with the RELIGION NEWS SERVICE. Our producer for the show is Beau York with special thanks to Kathryn Post, Paul O'Donnell, Roxanne Stone, and Adelle Banks. Our sponsor for the series is Zondervan Reflective, publishers of How to Fight Racism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Racism is not an ideology invented by people of African descent—people of European descent who are considered white hold that dubious distinction. So what is the role of white people in fighting racism?  In part four of the Fighting Racism series, I talk with Shelley and David Park. They are the transracial adoptive parents of a son who is Black. They also composed a curriculum called “Let's Talk Race: A Beginners Guide to Conversations about Race.” In this 5-week course they talk to other white people about race.  Delve into the definition of an ally and how white people can act in solidarity with Black people and other people of color.  LINKS Let's Talk Race - Shelley and David Park Subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com so you'll never miss a new episode. Grab your copy of How to Fight Racism HERE. FIGHTING RACISM is a miniseries powered by FOOTNOTES WITH JEMAR TISBY and is made in collaboration with the RELIGION NEWS SERVICE. Our producer for the show is Beau York with special thanks to Kathryn Post, Paul O'Donnell, Roxanne Stone, and Adelle Banks. Our sponsor for the series is Zondervan Reflective, publishers of How to Fight Racism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode we are going to talk with someone who knows all too well the challenges of environmental racism externally and the challenges of fighting for racial and ethnic diversity internally at a company.  We are joined by Abigail Oduaol. She works for an organization called Earthjustice which employs more than 500 people. She serves as a senior development office but has also taken it upon herself to spearhead the company's antiracist initiatives and their efforts to make the workplace more responsive to the needs and concerns of its Black employees. This is an informative interview that will challenge and inspire you.  To learn more about Abigail Oduol and her work, click HERE Article: Creating Psychological Safety for Black Women at Your Company Article: Environmental Justice Must Lie at the Heart of Climate Action Article: How St. Louis Churches Are Revealing the Disparities in the Air We Breathe Article: Pew Research, Workplace Diversity 2023 Subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com so you'll never miss a new episode. Grab your copy of How to Fight Racism HERE. FIGHTING RACISM is a miniseries powered by FOOTNOTES WITH JEMAR TISBY and is made in collaboration with the RELIGION NEWS SERVICE. Our producer for the show is Beau York with special thanks to Kathryn Post, Paul O'Donnell, Roxanne Stone, and Adelle Banks. Our sponsor for the series is Zondervan Reflective, publishers of How to Fight Racism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this episode we hear what one homeschooling parent, Brytni McNeil is doing to create a more racially inclusive and honest culture in homeschooling. Brytni is so graciously vulnerable in sharing her story of coming from a colorblind approach to race to becoming color-conscious. She talks about the challenges of being a Black homeschooling parent and how she is working to make homeschooling families more aware of racial dynamics. Learn more about her work HERE. Subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com so you'll never miss a new episode.  Grab your copy of How to Fight Racism HERE. FIGHTING RACISM is a miniseries powered by FOOTNOTES WITH JEMAR TISBY and is made in collaboration with the RELIGION NEWS SERVICE. Our producer for the show is Beau York with special thanks to Kathryn Post, Paul O'Donnell, Roxanne Stone, and Adelle Banks. Our sponsor for the series is Zondervan Reflective, publishers of How to Fight Racism.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Welcome to the FIGHTING RACISM series, a project that explores how real people just like you are fighting racism in their everyday lives. My name is Dr. Jemar Tisby. I'm a historian, an author, a speaker, and a professor of history at Simmons College of Kentucky, and I will be your host and guide throughout this series. In this episode I unpack the ARC of Racial Justice and tell you how this series came about and what to expect. See below for the upcoming episode themes. Fighting Racism Series Real Stories from Real People - Jemar Tisby, PhD Confronting Racism in Homeschooling - Brynti McNeil Racial Justice at Work and in the Environment - Abigail Oduol How White Allies Can Talk to Other White People about Racism - Shelley & David Park Giving the Formerly Incarcerated a Chance at True Freedom - Stanley Frankart Addressing Racial and Religious Trauma through Mental Health Care - Adebisi Gbadamosi Subscribe to JemarTisby.Substack.com so you'll never miss a new episode.  Grab your copy of How to Fight Racism HERE. FIGHTING RACISM is a miniseries powered by FOOTNOTES WITH JEMAR TISBY and is made in collaboration with the RELIGION NEWS SERVICE. Our producer for the show is Beau York with special thanks to Kathryn Post, Paul O'Donnell, Roxanne Stone, and Adelle Banks. Our sponsor for the series is Zondervan Reflective, publishers of How to Fight Racism.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"Critical Race Theory has become a lightning rod in contemporary American politics and evangelical Christianity. This irenic book offers a critical but constructive and sympathetic introduction written from a perspective rooted in Scripture and Christian Theology." I sit down with the co-authors Dr. Robert Chao Romero and Dr. Jeff Liou to talk about the need for this book and the intersection between Christianity and Critical Race Theory.  Buy the book "Christianity and Critical Race Theory HERE.  Subscribe to my Substack and never miss an episode: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Subscribe to my YouTube! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In his new book, "More Than I Imagined: What a Black Man Discovered About the White Mother He Never Knew", CNN journalist John Blake shares an intimate story of his journey with race, faith, and forgiveness.  In this interview we talk about racial identity, the usefulness of the term "racial reconciliation," and a bit about The Wire.  John's book is now AVAILABLE!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jordan Neely used to dress up and do Michael Jackson impersonations. But on May 1, 2023, a Marine veteran on a subway train put him in a chokehold that led to his death. Neely had allegedly been shouting on the train about how he was thirsty, hungry, and tired of his situation. Neely should not have been killed. He suffered from homelessness and mental illness and the system failed him, we failed him, long before the day of his death.  We talk about why attacks against the houseless population should be classified as hate crimes, why we need better mental health care for this group, and how to have meaningful proximity to people who are unhoused.  Check out Dr. Lester's organization: Love Beyond Walls  And his latest book: All God's Children Follow on IG x Twitter: @IamTerenceLester  Be sure to subscribe to my Substack to support this work! JemarTisby.Substack.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In what is becoming a disturbing pattern in Christian higher education, I was contacted by another professor who was fired for her teachings about racial justice.  Professor Julie Moore, formerly of Taylor University, taught a composition class with a racial justice theme. She's been doing this for years. But in January of 2023, her provost refused to renew her contract. As part of the paltry evidence for the dismissal, he cited a quote from me that Professor Moore used in the introduction to her syllabus.  Listen to Professor Moore's story as well as how she and Professor Sam Joeckel are calling the Council of Christian Colleges and Universities (CCCU) to act.  Also check out Professor Moore's open letter describing her ordeal on my Substack: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Jon Ward is senior political correspondent for Yahoo News, author of Camelot's End: Kennedy v Carter and the Fight that Broke the Democratic Party (Twelve Books, 2019), and host of “The Long Game” podcast. Jon has covered American politics and culture for two decades, as a city desk reporter in Washington D.C., as a White House correspondent, and as a national affairs correspondent who has traveled the country to write about two presidential campaigns and the ideas and people animating our times. In this episode of Footnotes, we talk about this upcoming book Testimony: Inside the Evangelical Movement that Failed a Generation. We break down the history of evangelicalism, where it came from and how it got to what we see it as now, and the ramifications of that evolution. Substack: https://jonward.substack.com/ Website: https://www.jonwardwrites.org/ Book: https://www.amazon.com/Testimony-Inside-Evangelical-Movement-Generation/dp/1587435772 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The 2023 women's NCAA championship game broke records for viewership, and racist reactions also broke the internet.  Two phenomenal players--Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese--used the same "can't see me" gesture during basketball games in the series. One player garnered almost no attention, or simply positive attention, for the gesture, while the other was lambasted.  Can you guess the difference between the two?  Caitlin Clark is white and Angel "Bayou Barbie" Reese is Black.  In this podcast I break it all down--why did this particular incident garner so much attention; what other racial double-standards have we seen; how should we move forward in a more racially aware way?  Be sure to subscribe/rate/review this podcast. And we can continue conversations like these on my Substack (JemarTisby.Substack.com).  JemarTisby.com  Instagram.com/JemarTisby NPR Explaner Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Professor Samuel Joeckel has been teaching a unit on racial justice at Palm Beach Atlantic University for twelve years. He has been a faculty member at the school for 20 years. All of that came to an abrupt end when administrators at the school fired him for teaching about racial justice.  This is the first interview Professor Sam gave after his dismissal. We talk about his initial reactions to the news, how his students have responded, and what all of this is teaching him about God and faith.  Please support Professor Sam by leaving him encouraging messages, by contributing to his financial support, and by sharing this interview with as many people as possible.  Venmo: @SamJoeckel  We put as much pressure as we can on the university so they can be held accountable for their cowardice.  For more information on the situation see here:  1. Religion News Service- Professor Joeckel on why his contract, teachings on racial justice are ‘under review' 2. JemarTisby.Substack.com- They Fired Him Be sure to rate, review, and subscribe to this podcast. Keep up with my latest work at JemarTisby.Substack.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The twenty-one years that kept Rob separated from his wife, Fox, and their six sons was long enough. As Rob survived two decades at America's bloodiest penitentiary and Fox raised their sons solo, they never stopped fighting for Rob's freedom and for their futures against the statistical odds. All the while, it was love that carried them through. The Academy Award-nominated documentary Time introduced audiences to Fox and Rob, who riveted audiences with their relentless fight for each other and justice, despite America's broken prison system. This book tells the rest of their story. In alternating voices and intimate detail, Fox and Rob reveal what the film does not--how a person can cultivate the radical love needed to see them through any hardship and how miracles can happen on the way. As they peel back the layers of their unforgettable love story, you'll discover the secrets of perseverance and the power of a resilience that is founded on faith in a God who never gives up on us. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Not only have we reduced Martin Luther King's vision to a single line from his "I Have a Dream" speech, we have also forgotten or ignored his vision for economic equity.  In this episode I talk about King's economic agenda--one that he had from the beginning of his work as a pastor and moral philosopher all the way back in the 1950s and not just in the last few years of his life.  We also get into how the Martin Luther King, Jr. holiday came to be and a 15 year saga to get to sign the bill into law.  Some resources you'll want to check out to learn more:  To the Promised Land: Martin Luther King and the Fight for Economic Justice Article- Jobs Are Harder to Create Than Voting Rolls Listen to "Letter from Birmingham Jail" on Pass The Mic Nonviolence 365- The King Center Freedmen's Bureau Transcription Project- Smithsonian Institute  Be sure to support projects like this one by subscribing to JemarTisby.Substack.com and this Footnotes podcast!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Some thoughts about the Jan 6th Committee's final hearing. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Charlie Cobb is a living legend of the Civil Rights movement. He has been an editor, a journalist and founding member of the National Association of Black Journalists. He is a professor. He is the author of several books. And he was the field secretary for the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) in Mississippi from 1962-1967. In this episode Jemar talks to him about his book “That Nonviolent Stuff Will Get You Killed” and the new online resources about the history of SNCC. Visit snccdigital.org Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White Nation Under God Episode 5: White Christian Nationalism is not merely a set of beliefs, it is a net that ensnares real people. At one time, Chuck Armstrong, a dedicated Christian, worked closely with far-right radio host and Congressional Medal of Honor winner (under Trump), Rush Limbaugh. As Armstrong matured in his faith and had more contact with marginalized and oppressed people, he realized he had been deceived into following a pernicious belief system. This is his journey into and out of White Christian Nationalism.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White Nation Under God Episode 4: White Christian Nationalists use Christianity as cover for their anti-democratic and repressive ideology. So other Christians have the responsibility and opportunity to resist this misuse of their religion and present a better way. Thankfully, some leaders are doing just that. Amanda Tyler is the Executive Director of BJC, and her organization was instrumental in creating "Christians Against Christian Nationalism" a comprehensive resource for people of faith who want to take action. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White Nation Under God Episode 3: An attempted insurrection on January 6, 2021 forced the nation to pay attention to the rising wave of anti-democratic movements in the United States. With the Christian iconography of the event--from crosses to pictures of a European-looking Jesus--we also had to learn more about a topic unfamiliar to some--White Christian Nationalism. To help us understand WCN's influence on politics and the events of January 6, we are joined by Andrew Seidel, author of American Crusade and the Director of Strategic Response at the Freedom From Religion Foundation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White Nation Under God Episode 2: The attempted insurrection on January 6, 2021 presented glaring examples of White Christian Nationalism in action. But that was just one manifestation of how this ideology threatens has undermined our political process. Sociologists Philip Gorski and Samuel Perry explain how White Christian Nationalism threatens democracy based on research for their book The Flag and the Cross. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

White Nation Under God Episode 1: White Christian nationalism is the greatest threat to democracy and the witness of the church in the United States. In this episode Dr. Jemar Tisby gives an introduction to the White Nation Under God series. You'll learn a basic definition of white Christian nationalism (WCN) , know how to spot it in action, list some common beliefs associated with WCN, and learn some of the historical roots of the ideology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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A lot of people believe that evangelical voters are hopelessly lost to the Republican Party. Doug Pagitt, the Executive Director of Vote Common Good, has other ideas. His organization is traveling across the country seeking to persuade 5-10% of Republican voters to change their votes and elect candidates who will protect democracy and the peaceful transfer of power.  In this conversation, you'll hear Doug speak passionately and personally about evangelicals. He is one. He's also a theorist who uses simple but eloquent frameworks to make sense of how we perceive ourselves and how to change people's minds. You'll learn about the role of information, transformation, and participation, as well as about the "hero-victim-villian" concept. Visit VoteCommonGood.com to learn more.  Be sure to subscribe, rate, and review Footnotes. You can also follow Jemar at JemarTisby.Substack.com.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Elaine Massacre is one of the bloodiest race riots in U.S. history. Yet it is a tragedy about which few people know. In this teach-in Dr. Jemar Tisby explains what happened over those fateful days in Arkansas in the Fall of 1919 when Black sharecroppers were targeted by white mobs. He explores the aftermath and the critical legal cases in subsequent years. And he sits down with filmmaker Nolan Dean of Cherry Street Productions to talk about "The Valley of Dry Bones," a documentary film project they are co-producing. Listen to this important story and share with others!  Links:  JemarTisby.Substack.com Video: The Elaine Massacre: A Teach-In Donate to the documentary:  PayPal: @csfilmfoundation  Venmo: @csfilmfoundation CashApp: $csfilmfoundation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

An article following up on the viral "People Who Don't Have Any Questions" tweet. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

A Black elf! A Black dwarven princess. Characters of Asian descent. And still, a mostly white cast. How is the new Lord of the Rings series doing on race? Why are so many trolls big mad that there's diversity in Middle Earth? What opportunities and risks does the series face moving forward. Listen to two experts on race and appreciators of LOTR, Jemar Tisby and Nancy Wang Yuen, break it down.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Every awards show has become a barometer of how much Hollywood has truly reckoned with race. This year's Emmy Awards were no different. Jemar and Nancy Wang Yuen, a sociologist who studies race and pop culture, weigh in on the highs and lows of this year's awards.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Should the state put people to death? Does the death penalty deter crime? Does it bring healing to the victims?  I talk with Sam Heath, manager of the Evangelical Network at Equal Justice USA, about these questions and more. He describes his experiences growing up as an evangelical and what he learned about the criminal legal system. Heath also explains the reasons why we should repeal the death penalty and what kinds of systems and policies should guide our approach to harm and healing.  Links Website: evangelical.ejusa.org How to Get Involved: linktr.ee/samheathejusa What Is Justice: youtube.com/channel/UCWyTqBleaIBS4jmupr5cxSw Footnotes is a listener supported podcast. You can help by becoming a paid subscriber at my newsletter: JemarTisby.Substack.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

If this is the civil rights movement of our day, then we have to utilize some of the tactics of the movement in the 1950s and 1960s. It's not enough simply to know about the anti-CRT crusade. We have to do something about it. We have to resist. But what can one person or a small group of people do in the face of such a widespread and coordinated movement? People concerned about racial justice have fought against steeper odds. They used the tactics of direct action, nonviolent protest to instigate change. Andre Henry, artist/activist and author of To All the White Friends I Couldn't Keep, offers practical ways to protest against racism. Follow him at andrehenry.co Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

When people try to block racial justice efforts, we tend to respond intellectually. We come up with arguments and rebuttals. But what's happening with racism is not just a battle against lies and misinformation, it is a spiritual struggle that requires a spiritual response. How should we think about and respond to the anti-CRT crusade through the lens of Scripture and the life of Jesus Christ? How do we relate to people who want to deny the truth of our racial history and get in the way of efforts at racial justice? What can we learn from the teachings of Christianity about resisting racism? Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis, Senior Minister of the historic Middle Collegiate Church, offers us her wisdom. Follow her at @RevJacquiLewis Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Despite our best efforts, Black people and other people of color still experience racism. The cumulative effects of these encounters, over a lifetime and over generations, can accurately be described as trauma. How do we process the specific pain that comes with racial discrimination? How can we heal and develop healthy self-care practices to endure racism? Sheila Wise Rowe is a Christian counselor, spiritual director, educator, writer, and speaker. She is also the author of Healing Racial Trauma: The Road to Resilience. She offers her perspective and suggests healthy practices for healing from the distinct harm of racism. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The anti-CRT crusade tries to prevent students from learning accurate history about racism in our society. This session pushes back against those efforts and explains how students and administrators can work together to build an antiracist culture at their schools. Dr. Christina Edmondson, a clinical psychologist and specialist in organizational culture, guides us. She is co-host of the Truth's Table podcast and co-author of Faithful Antiracism: Moving Past Talk to Systemic Change. Follow her at @DrCEdmondson. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Far right Christians and their anti-CRT crusade tend to suck up all the attention. But there are different Christian approaches to racism. Christians concerned about racism can look to Black Christians and their long history of resisting discrimination in the name of their faith. Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley is the Director of Black Church Studies at Truett Seminary and co-pastor of a multiethnic church. He explains what we need to learn from the Black church tradition. Follow him at @MalcolmBFoley. If you appreciate this content, please consider becoming a paid subscriber: JemarTisby.Substack.com Feel free to share this podcast! Use the hashtag: #ThoseMeddlingKids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

An internecine controversy among historians spilled out into the broader public conversation. A term called "presentism" started trending on Twitter after the president of the American Historical Association, Dr. James Sweet, wrote an article asking if there was too much focus from historians on "contemporary social justice issues—race, gender, sexuality, nationalism, capitalism..."  I speak with Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley, who has his PhD in religious historical studies, to help explain what presentism is, why it is so controversial, and how Black studies takes a different approach.  Links:  "Is History History?" by Dr. James Sweet I Am a Historian: On Presentism by Rev. Dr. Malcolm Foley Read more of Jemar's work at his newsletter: JemarTisby.Substack.com  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The anti-CRT crusade operates through a complex web of organizations, individuals, and money. It's like a machine, or what we can call the anti-CRT industrial complex. If we want to counteract the negative efforts of those who oppose what they call Critical Race Theory, then we have to understand how this industrial complex operates. Katherine Stewart is an investigative journalist who asks the questions some don't want to hear and exposes the truth we all need to. She is the author of The Power Worshipers: Inside the Dangerous Rise of Religious Nationalism. Follow her at @kathsstewart Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The ideology behind the anti-CRT crusade is white Christian Nationalism. More concerned with power than piety, the culture wars than Christ—what are the signs of white Christian Nationalism? How can you detect it and what can you do about it? Andrew Whitehead is a sociologist and Director of the Association of Religion Data Archives. He is also the co-author of Taking America Back for God. In this episode he explains the link between the anti-CRT crusade and the dangerous ideology of Christian Nationalism. Follow him at @ndrewwhitehead. Get the latest updates at: JemarTisby.Substack.com Please share this series! Use that hashtag #ThoseMeddlingKids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Conservative Christian colleges and universities are often some of the worst places for learning about racial justice. A disturbing number of them are beginning to join the anti-CRT crusade, so it can be extremely difficult for students to learn what they need about racism and what to do about it? How did it get this way? Dr. Otis Pickett is the University Historian at Clemson University. His area of study focuses on race and the church in the 19th century and earlier. He has worked at Mississippi College and was instrumental in helping the school make proactive steps toward racial justice. Follow him at @OtisWPickett. Support this work by becoming a paid subscriber at JemarTisby.Substack.com Please share and use the hashtag: #ThoseMeddlingKids Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices