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Pass The Mic is the premier podcast of The Witness – A Black Christian Collective. Tune in every week for engaging discussions and high profile interviews addressing the core concerns of African Americans biblically. Learn more at TheWitnessBCC.com

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    • Oct 18, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
    • every other week NEW EPISODES
    • 45m AVG DURATION
    • 273 EPISODES

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    Can Black Men Grow Old?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2021 39:17

    After the tragic loss of Michael K. Williams at age 54, our sister Ekemini Uwan tweeted out the statement "Black men should grow old." ((18) M.DivA, 100% Intelligent Black Child on Twitter: "Black men should grow old." / Twitter). Today on Pass The Mic, we ask the question: Can we? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Vax, Plats, and Facts

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2021 49:19

    Should those with a platforms speak on life or death issues like Covid-19, Vaccinations, Justice or otherwise? Well... it depends. Let's talk about it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    What Do We Do With Our Black Parents?

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2021 49:13

    Like... What do we do with them? There is a shifting world under our feet and the realities of what we have been taught socially and relationally, and the family conversation overall have changed. It's different to be a Black parent now...while also being a Black son/daughter. For reference this week be sure to check out these articles: How Black Parents Survived 2020 - The New York Times (nytimes.com) PTM: Leave LOUD- Tyler Burns' Story Part 2 | The Witness (thewitnessbcc.com) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Leave Loud: Be Free, Not Guilty

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2021 52:26

     …Are y'all still leaving loud?  Listen, Tyler and Jemar are back on the mic together and the return does not disappoint! In this episode, we discuss why some of us are hesitant to “Leave Loud” and confront some of the things that keep us from making an essential decision. Whether fear, idols, the approval of people, the way we heard the Gospel, all of it. We're coming for it all today. Also, don't miss Jemar sharing powerful words of freedom from Galatians 5. If you've felt guilty or hesitant, this episode is for you!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Healing Racial Trauma with Sheila Wise Rowe

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2021 53:23

    Listen to this author interview and be sure to buy her book!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Jemar's PHD Journey

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2021 51:44

    This week, Jemar shares his PHD journey. Alternate names include: “Phinally Done!” “PhDone!” “Dr.J” “Three Little Letters” “The Man, THe Myth, The Doctor” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    The Active Witness Challenge

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2021 30:27

    Run or Walk 5K, 10K, 26 Miles or 50 Miles Throughout SeptemberUpload your distances & photos daily to win a prize: 9/1 - 9/30 The Active Witness Challenge is a virtual fundraiser to commemorate the 1956 March on Selma. It is not remiss that we are in the midst of our generation's Civil Rights Movement. Whether participants walk, run, or support through a donation, we have an opportunity to be active about our witness. We run because they walked. This fundraising challenge is for supporters to run or walk throughout September 2021 #werunbecausetheywalked  #activewitnesschallenge link: 2021 The Active Witness Challenge (elitefeats.com) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    Black Christians, Please Don't Waste Your Time

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 16, 2021 35:11

     Well, family, for the first time in PTM history, Tyler is doing a solo podcast episode! Stop the press! Tyler is back this week with a word from Nehemiah about staying committed to OUR work first, making sure we are truly doing what God has called us to do. Time is PRECIOUS, family. Do not waste it on conversations that do not benefit you! Receive this word and be free! Don't forget! To sign up for the Active Witness Challenge, click this link: https://events.elitefeats.com/preview/693e103f98aa40fa9aa321ead92f90f7 To sign up for our patreon, join us here: patreon.com/passthemic Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

    The Tweets I Don't Tweet From @JemarTisby

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 2, 2021 49:52

    This week on Pass The Mic, we go inside the ‘drafts' to unpack some of those “tweets we don't tweet”

    “When We Stand” with Terence Lester

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 12, 2021 35:14


    Our guest today is a courageous voice for justice for those whom we often forgotten about. Tyler invites Terence Lester onto the podcast for a conversation about his powerful new book “When We Stand”, a book on the power of seeking justice together.  Terence Lester is an activist, writer, storyteller, and community leader. He is known for nationwide campaigns that bring awareness to issues surrounding homelessness, poverty, and economic inequality. His awareness campaigns have been featured on MLK50, CNN, Good Morning America, TVONE, Creative Mornings, USA Today, NBC, AJC, Black Enterprise, Rolling Out, Upworthy, and have been viewed by millions of people worldwide. In 2018, Terence led the March Against Poverty as he walked from Atlanta to Memphis (386 miles). He finished the march and spoke at the historic Lorraine Motel for the 50th Anniversary of MLK's assassination. In 2013, Terence founded the non-profit “Love Beyond Walls” and has helped hundreds of individuals experiencing homelessness and poverty to rebuild their lives. In 2019, Terence launched the first museum in the U.S. representing homelessness out of a shipping container called Dignity Museum. Terence has written six books, and his new book, “When We Stand: The Power Of Seeking Justice Together,” released May 18, 2021, with InterVarsity Press. He also holds four degrees and is working towards his Ph.D. at Union Institute & University in Public Policy & Social Change. Pick up “When We Stand” today! https://www.ivpress.com/when-we-stand


    “He Saw That It Was Good” with Sho Baraka

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 5, 2021 62:55

    Sho just released He Saw That It Was Good, a collection of essays on the topics of work and creation. The conversation begins by discussing this book and how important it is for this moment.  But…the dialogue took a turn. The trio talked about Black organizational unity, Black men in leadership, Sho's history within Christian Hip Hop, the future of tearing down/building up, and much more. This is a vulnerable, prophetic conversation and we hope our audience is as moved by it as we were.   Purchase Sho's book here or wherever books are sold!  https://waterbrookmultnomah.com/books/635730/he-saw-that-it-was-good-by-sho-baraka/#:~:text=About%20He%20Saw%20That%20It%20Was%20Good.%20A,years%E2%80%94now%20this%20book%20gives%20the%20world%20that%20influence.%E2%80%9D%E2%80%94Lecrae.

    July 4th 2021: "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 4, 2021 71:36


    Jemar Tisby reads Frederick Douglass' entire "What to the Slave is the Fourth of July." It's long! But the section on the American church is piercing, prophetic, scathing, and, sadly, still relevant. In this special episode of Pass The Mic Jemar Tisby reads the entire historic address of Frederick Douglass entitled, "What to the Slave Is the Fourth of July?"


    Juneteenth: Reflections on a National Holiday from Jemar Tisby

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2021 40:07

    In this special episode of Pass The Mic, Jemar reflects on Juneteenth after it became a national holiday and was officially commemorated nationwide. He talks about why Juneteenth should be a national holiday and the unintended consequences of taking a Black-centered holiday and making it mainstream. He also delves into the history (of course!) as he discusses the actual contents of General Order No. 3 which was read to enslaved Black people in Galveston, TX on June 19, 1865. Finally, Jemar discusses some reasons why Black and white people should commemorate and celebrate Juneteenth in different ways. Even though the holiday has passed, this episode helps shape the narrative of how we should acknowledge Juneteenth as a nation in future years.  Links:  Why Juneteenth Should Be a National Holiday The Unintended Consequences of Making Juneteenth a National Holiday Why Black and White People Should Commemorate Juneteenth Differently

    A Complicated Juneteenth

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 30:15

    Saturday was our first Juneteenth as a federal holiday, and it feels...complicated. What was once ours doesn't feel like just ours anymore. We are excited but also aware of what this might mean for a sacred day of Black belonging and freedom.  Tyler and Jemar shared about these complex feelings for our holiday, our celebration, our day. This podcast was recorded during our second annual “Free to Be” Juneteenth celebration. Watch the event in its entirety here: https://fb.watch/6gCGUCfATt/

    #LeaveLOUD: In the Wilderness

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 42:46

    Since the #LeaveLOUD movement began, the most common question we have been asked is “Where do we go now?” Every person who is taking the journey toward finding healthy spaces of flourishing will inevitably encounter “The Wilderness.” We feel stuck, weighed down, insecure about the season that we're in.  In this episode, Tyler and Jemar talk about what it means to walk through the wilderness. They discuss shame, learning and unlearning, patterns of growth, and some perspective about what's happening in this season of our lives. If you're in the wilderness, please know you are not alone. Many are walking through the same thing you are.  ******************************** What is #LeaveLOUD? In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we've seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it's time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It's time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we've lost while being in institutions that don't value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone.

    White Evangelical Racism with Dr. Anthea Butler

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 52:29

    Buckle up! We have the incredible Dr. Anthea Butler with us today to talk about her new book White Evangelical Racism.  Dr. Butler joins Tyler and Jemar to talk about the importance of understanding social and political power, the popularity of a multi-ethnic approach to racial reconciliation, and so much more. This is not one to miss!  Associate Professor of Religious Studies and Africana Studies at the University of Pennsylvania. A sought-after commentator on the BBC, MSNBC, CNN, The History Channel and PBS, Professor Butler regularly writes opinion pieces covering religion, race, politics and popular culture for NBC Think, Religion News Service, The Washington Post, and CNN. Professor Butler was awarded a Luce/ACLS Fellowship for the Religion, Journalism and International Affairs grant for 2018-2019 academic year to investigate Prosperity gospel and politics in the American and Nigerian context. She was also a Presidential fellow at Yale Divinity School for the 2019-2020 academic year. Her books include Women in the Church of God in Christ: Making A Sanctified World,  published by The University of North Carolina Press. Her current projects include two books for UNC Press, White Evangelical Racism: The Politics of Morality in America, out in March 2021, and Reading Race: How Publishing created a lifeline for Black Baptists in Post Reconstruction America.

    Behind the Mic: The Cost of Reconstruction

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2021 39:25

    This Behind the Mic was too good not to share! Tyler and Jemar talk about the cost of reconstruction after #LeaveLOUD, give a candid look at our democracy, and costly soul care in this moment.  In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone.

    Creative Anti-Racism with Danielle Coke

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2021 51:51

    Today we have a special interview for you! Our host Tyler Burns recently interviewed Danielle Coke, also known as @ohhappydani, to talk about creative anti-racism in a world of injustice. In the conversation, they talked about her journey, her own #LeaveLOUD story, and how disruptive creativity can enhance the cause of anti-racism.  Be sure to follow Danielle on Instagram at @ohhappydani and pick up her art at https://ohhappydani.com!  Danielle Coke is a designer turned illustrator and social justice advocate who seeks to encourage faith, inspire justice and guide you through loving your neighbor well. She's passionate about helping everyday people find and use their passions to make a difference in their spheres of influence. Also, be sure to support this show on Patreon at patreon.com/passthemic! 

    What is #LeaveLOUD?

    Play Episode Listen Later May 4, 2021 64:19

    Jemar is BACK! Returning from his brief hiatus, Jemar and Tyler give you the official explainer of what #LeaveLOUD really is and who it is for. We know you have questions, so we’re taking time to answer as many as we can. We answer the questions: -Are we saying all Black people HAVE to leave? -Are we leaving Jesus behind? -Are we giving up on white people? -Where do we go from here? This is an old school PTM episode, filled with laughing and preaching. It’s good to have Jemar back! ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone.

    Behind the Mic: Derek Chauvin Verdict

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2021 69:31

    This past week, the world paused and held its collective breath, waiting for the verdict in the Derek Chauvin Trial. Almost a year after Chauvin placed his knee on George Floyd’s neck, and killed him for all the world to see, his verdict was read. Is this justice? Will this lead to lasting change? Is this something to celebrate? Tyler, Ally, and new Witness team member Brea Perry are here to discuss and help you process this important moment.  ********* This is our final installment of Behind the Mic before we bring Jemar back so get ready for another installment of our Leave LOUD series next week! In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories.

    Leave LOUD: Behind the Mic with Tyler Burns & Ally Henny

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 19, 2021 68:18

    Family, sometimes you have to throw out the script!  That’s what PTM host Tyler Burns and Witness VP Ally Henny did during their latest Behind the Mic on IG Live. What was originally an episode recapping the second part of Tyler’s Leave LOUD episode turned into an unscripted convo about Black freedom in white spaces. Make sure you’re sitting down for this one! #LeaveLOUD ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories.

    Black Liturgies with Cole Riley

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2021 47:32

    This conversation is like water for the soul, fam.  Today’s episode features the incredible Cole Riley, the creator and writer of Black Liturgies— a project seeking to integrate the truths of Black dignity, lament, rage, justice, and rest into written prayers. Black Liturgies creates a space of sacred welcome. A space of dignity, lament, truth-telling, healing, rest, and liberation.  These liturgies have been a healing balm of love and light for Black Christians in dark times. Cole shares her heart about the discipline of centering Black voices, what she has been learning in her work, and the healthy stewardship of her platform.  You can follow the project on Instagram @blackliturgies. Also, check out Cole’s exclusive prayer series, written earlier this year onThe Witness website.  God of the Dust: https://thewitnessbcc.com/god-of-the-dust-an-ash-wednesday-prayer/ God of the Desert: https://thewitnessbcc.com/god-of-the-desert-a-lenten-prayer/ God of Sorrows: https://thewitnessbcc.com/god-of-sorrows-a-lenten-prayer Thank you all for your continued support of our Leave LOUD series of blogs and podcasts! The outpouring of love has been affirming and special! We will be back with Phase 2 of our campaign soon!

    Leave LOUD: Tyler Burns, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 60:07

    Leave LOUD: Tyler Burns with Greg Burns  This is a deep cut, y’all. A few weeks ago, you heard Tyler Burns tell his own #LeaveLoud story, but we couldn’t leave it there. As always, there’s more to the story.  Tyler invites his father, Greg Burns, onto the podcast to discuss being converted and trained in white spaces, his own growth in understanding his identity, how this journey has affected their relationship. #LeaveLOUD ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories. 

    Leave LOUD: Ally Henny's Story Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 109:43

    The stories continue…After Jemar Tisby and Tyler Burns shared powerful episodes of their #LeaveLOUD experiences, it’s time to hear from our very own Ally Henny.  How is the Black Christian experience different in rural settings? Are multiethnic churches truly safe spaces for Black women? What happens when Black women #LeaveLoud? Ally had to courageously confront these questions during her time in white evangelicalism. What changed? What did she learn? This is her journey as only she can tell it. This is Ally Henny’s #LeaveLOUD story.  ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories. 

    The Work Continues

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 24, 2021 32:24

    Tyler, Jemar, and Shannon join the podcast to talk about an exciting but bittersweet announcement regarding Jemar and the future of The Witness.  We’re just getting started! The Work Continues!

    Leave LOUD: Ally Henny's Story Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021 71:39

    The stories continue…After Jemar Tisby and Tyler Burns shared powerful episodes of their #LeaveLOUD experiences, it’s time to hear from our very own Ally Henny.  How is the Black Christian experience different in rural settings? Are multiethnic churches truly safe spaces for Black women? What happens when Black women #LeaveLoud? Ally had to courageously confront these questions during her time in white evangelicalism. What changed? What did she learn? This is her journey as only she can tell it. This is Ally Henny’s #LeaveLOUD story.  ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories.

    Leave LOUD: Tyler Burns’ Story

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 83:06

    Another one…After Jemar Tisby’s courageous #LeaveLOUD story last week, Tyler Burns is up next to share his own journey.  How do you overcome years of Christian Education that makes you question your Black identity? What can our lives look like when we embrace a vision for what it means to be Christ-following and Black-centered? For Tyler, these realities seemed elusive and, at times, impossible. What changed? What did he learn? This is his journey, as only he can tell it. This is Tyler Burns’ #LeaveLOUD story.  ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better. In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated. For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD. The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories. 

    Dr. Seuss, Triggers and Resilience

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 10, 2021 48:05


    Justin and Chris talk about the differences in the Senate and House versions of the American Rescue Act. They talk about how the Hyde Amendment was missing from that legislation. There's also a discussion about how we can engage the tension between triggers and resilience.


    Leave LOUD: Jemar Tisby’s Story

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2021 98:31

    Whew! Listen, family...this is the one.  10 years ago, Jemar Tisby founded this organization with the hope of achieving racial reconciliation in white evangelical spaces. Eventually, after a barrage of attacks, smears, and racial trauma, the organization changed its name, and Jemar left the place that he thought was his home. What happened? What changed? What did he learn? This is the story like you’ve never heard it before. This is Jemar Tisby’s #LeaveLOUD story.   ********* In 2018, the New York Times published an article tiled: A Quiet Exodus: Why Black Worshipers Are Leaving White Evangelical Churches that chronicled the plight of Black Christians who quietly exited their churches after their pastors and fellow believers failed to denounce state-sanctioned violence against Black people, white Christian Nationalism, systemic racism, and everyday bigotry. Since that time, things have gotten worse, not better.  In recent months, we’ve seen a surge of Black leaders and congregants in predominantly white or multiethnic churches and Christian spaces decide that it’s time for them to go. We bear witness to the hurt, harm, and frustration that our siblings have experienced. Enough is enough. It’s time to #LeaveLOUD To #LeaveLOUD is to tell our stories, to name things for what they are, to take back the dignity we’ve lost while being in institutions that don’t value the fullness of the image of God within us, and to go where we are celebrated and not just tolerated.   For the next several weeks, we will be sharing stories of Black Christians who have made the decision to #LeaveLOUD. We will also be providing thoughtful analysis, words of wisdom, and resources for those who have already left or who are discerning whether they should #LeaveLOUD. We invite you to share your stories using the hashtag #LeaveLOUD.  The Witness BCC exists to empower Black Christians to live into the fullness of who God created us to be. You are not alone. Visit thewitnessbcc.com for more of our stories. 

    Appreciating the Pentecostal Tradition

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 2, 2021 58:26

    We’re back with another episode! Tyler has a conversation with Witness BCC Vice President and Coming The Roots podcast host Ally Henny about their shared Pentecostal roots.  What can we learn from our spiritual heritage? What may be missing underneath the surface that others cannot see? How can we use what we have experienced to build a better future? NOTE: This episode was recorded before The Black Church documentary was released on PBS. 

    The Black Church PBS Documentary Review Live!

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2021 99:56

    This excellent discussion features: Jemar Tisby, CEO of The Witness Inc Tyler Burns, President of The Witness BCC Ally Henny, Vice President of The Witness Bcc Rev. Dr. Nicole Massie Martin, Founder of Soulfire International Ministries Rev. Dr. C.J. Rhodes, Senior Pastor of the historic Mt. Helm Baptist Church

    Leave Loud: It’s time to go, family

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 3, 2021 49:17

    Welp...Black History Month is wildin once again...As much as we try to stay away from talking about every instance of racism, we couldn’t let this one slide.  A few days ago, a viciously racist letter that was sent Pastor Dwight McKissic became public. Shortly after it was shared for the world to see, the letter went viral, exposing many Black Christians to familiar, triggering racist language about our identity. It would be easy to ignore this but we want to talk about what’s beneath the surface.  Tyler is joined by Witness BCC Vice President and Coming the Roots Host Ally Henny to talk about what is beneath the surface of racism like this. This conversation speaks, of course, to Black Chirstians, but also to White Christians who refuse to see how common these thoughts truly are. You don’t want to miss this one. 

    Permission to Be Black with A.D. Thomason

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 2, 2021 48:33

    As we begin Black History Month, we are releasing a special interview about our willingness to be ourselves regardless of what society says. Our guest today is writer, activist, and speaker A.D. Thomason. A.D. is on to speak about his new book Permission to Be Black.  AD is a three time award winning filmmaker and Co-founder of 3Strandfilms (read and view films here NOTOFTHEM.COM). Adam is an adjunct professor at Kilns College where he teaches on the History of Human rights and justice, De-colonizing your faith, filmmaking and more. He’s with us today to speak about his new book: Permission to Be Black: My Journey with Jay-Z and Jesus.  “Throughout American history, Black people were not given the freedom to acknowledge their suffering. A. D. Thomason believes that the Holy Spirit brings freedom and liberation as we're able to name our pain, recognize its roots in history and society, and seek healing. While many saw a confident, six-foot-five Black man, A. D. "Lumkile" Thomason lived most of his life in fear and anguish, deeply wounded by encounters with violence, abandonment, and family tragedy.  A. D. uses his artistry as a poet and storyteller to share how he confessed his internalized pain and embraced the liberating joy of Christ. He writes for millennials, emerging adults, and anyone else who's ready to acknowledge the reality of racial trauma and our need to confront it. His powerful story gives you permission to be Black, to be Christian, and to be the person God has made you to be.” ALSO, don’t forget to send in your thoughts on the Movie Soul! You have a few days to get your thoughts in before next week’s review. All you have to do is send in a 30-45 second audio clip featuring: 1. Your first name 2. Where you’re listening from  3. Something you liked or disliked from the film.  4. Send it to tyler@thewitnessbcc.com with the Subject Line: PTM Soul Review 

    “Letter From Birmingham Jail”

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2021 53:13

    Happy MLK Day! In honor of the famed civil rights icon who is often whitewashed, often sanitized, often vilified; we have a special treat for you. On April 16, 1963, Dr. King wrote a lengthy letter to a coalition of white clergymen from a narrow jail cell in Birmingham, after being arrested by the police for nonviolent direct action. What he wrote eventually became one of the greatest pieces of writing every penned in English. For today’s episode, our Host Tyler Burns reads the entire speech for you. If you’ve never heard it read audibly, here is your chance! Gather your family around, put this episode on during your daily commute or workout, and hear the powerful words/arguments of Dr. King.  Also! By request of one of our listeners, we will be doing a review of the polarizing Pixar film “Soul”. But...we need your help. We want to have a conversation with YOU. If you’re Black and you have strong feelings (positive or negative), questions, or comments about Soul, we want to hear from you! We want you to send us an audio recording of your thoughts. Here are the details: Share your first name Share where you’re listening from (as much as you feel comfortable) Share your opinion! Keep it at 30-45 seconds  Email it to Tyler@thewitnessbcc.com with the subject line “PTM Soul Review” That’s it! We look forward to hearing your thoughts!

    We Been Told Yall….Black Triumph in an Insurrection

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021 52:06

    After the chaos of 2020, we all have been looking forward to 2021...welp… We’re just a few days into the new year and we have experienced both the power of Blackness and the relentlessness of White Supremacy. Jemar and Tyler are back to talk about the past week’s events, our response, and remaining Black centered in our understanding of the events around us. Also! Y’all are amazing! We are excited to announce our Top 10 cities, countries (!), and our download numbers. We couldn’t do ANYTHING without y’all! Thank you for listening, fam!

    MINI: How do we do reconciliation right?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2021 2:06

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    MINI: What is the ARC of racial justice?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 10, 2021 2:36

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    MINI: What are some things white people can do to fight racism that doesn't put the work on their black neighbors?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2021 3:14

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    MINI: When is it time for black people to move out of white spaces?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2021 2:02

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    MINI: What does success look like when pursuing racial justice?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021 2:12

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    MINI: "I'm Not A Racist" "I Don't See Color" "Racism Isn't A Modern Issue"

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 8, 2021 3:09

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    MINI: How can pastors start productive conversations with their congregation about racism?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2021 2:49

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    MINI: Don't want to create 'unnecessary division' by talking about race?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 7, 2021 1:45

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    MINI: What are some practical things one can do to pursue racial justice?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2021 1:45

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    MINI: What do you sat to people who don't think racism is an issue?

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 6, 2021 2:19

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    How to Fight Racism MINIS

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 5, 2021 1:21

    PTM MINIS Heading your way over the next few days.

    2020 Cultural Artifacts, Part 2

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2020 72:33

     It’s the most wonderful time of the year! And also, our favorite episode(s) of the year! Every year, we recap our favorite “cultural artifacts”. These can be books, albums, people, movies, TV shows, events….ANYTHING that got us through the year. There’s only one catch: these items do NOT have to come out this year. They just have to be consumed this year.  Creating this list helps us to commemorate how we’ve grown and what has helped us get through. This year, since 2020 has been a mess, we have to give our Top 10. Join Jemar and Tyler for the second half of their lists.  What’s on your 2020 list?? Tweet us @thewitnessbcc or @_PassTheMic

    2020 Cultural Artifacts, Part 1

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 23, 2020 47:33

    It’s the most wonderful time of the year! And also, our favorite episode(s) of the year! Every year, we recap our favorite “cultural artifacts”. These can be books, albums, people, movies, TV shows, events….ANYTHING that got us through the year. There’s only one catch: these items do NOT have to come out this year. They just have to be consumed this year.  Creating this list helps us to commemorate how we’ve grown and what has helped us get through. This year, since 2020 has been a mess, we have to give our Top 10. Join Jemar and Tyler for the first half of their lists.  What’s on your 2020 list?? Tweet us @thewitnessbcc or @_PassTheMic

    The Witness Foundation with Dr. Shannon Polk

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 16, 2020 46:42

    Surprise! We have a special episode for you today! Our guest is the Executive Director of The Witness Foundation: The Rev. Dr. Shannon Polk! Shannon is a theologian, speaker, philanthropist, and a lawyer. She speaks about the intersection of race and gender and is a leading voice in the space of Black Philanthropy.  Today, she joins our host Tyler Burns to talk about The Witness Foundation and Black Philanthropy. For those who are unaware, The Witness Foundation seeks to correct patterns of racial injustice that have deprived Black Christians and communities of material resources by identifying promising Black Christian leaders to be part of a two-year fellowship. They receive $50,000 per year of the fellowship as it makes their work for racial justice more effective. Of course, we encourage you to give to the “Will You Be a Witness?” Campaign at thewitnessinc.com and apply to the Witness Foundation Fellowship at thewitnessfoundation.co!

    How to Fight Racism with Jemar Tisby

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 61:07

     So, you know we had to interview Mr. Blue Check Verified right? Our “guest” today is the man who made it all happen! Jemar Tisby, the CEO of The Witness Inc is on today to talk about his new book How to Fight Racism. After the incredible success of his book The Color of Compromise, we are excited to talk about his call for the church to pursue a courageous Christianity.  How to Fight Racism is a handbook for pursuing racial justice with hands-on suggestions bolstered by real-world examples of change. Tisby offers an array of actionable items to confront racism in our relationships and in everyday life through a simple framework--the A.R.C. Of Racial Justice--that helps readers consistently interrogate their own actions and maintain a consistent posture of anti-racist action. This book is for anyone who believes it is time to stop compromising with racism and courageously confront it. The book releases on January 5 so don’t forget to pre-order! https://www.amazon.com/How-Fight-Racism-Courageous-Christianity/dp/0310104777/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=30TJMJHB52NCU&dchild=1&keywords=how+to+fight+racism+jemar+tisby&qid=1607956280&sprefix=how+to+fight%2Caps%2C186&sr=8-1-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFRSzVRSFlMN01NSVEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA2ODI1NzQyUjJNMkxLVFpaQUkmZW5jcnlwdGVkQWRJZD1BMDQ5MTAzM1BRU09NREhPMTFIQSZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU=

    Reading While Black with Dr. Esau McCaulley

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 54:46

    Our guest today is no stranger to many of you! The Rev. Dr. Esau McCaulley, PhD is a New Testament scholar and an Anglican Priest. He is a contributing opinion writer for the New York Times. He has also appeared in outlets such as Christianity Today, Washington Post, and of course, The Witness: BCC. He is also the host of the Disrupters Podcast and functions as a Canon Theologian for his diocese. Our topic today is his new book Reading While Black: African American Biblical Interpretation as an Exercise in Hope. The book looks at the tradition of African American biblical interpretation and argues that the Bible rightly understood and read from a decidedly black perspective can speak a word of hope to African Americans in the United States. This is a conversation that you don’t want to miss! ****************************** Finally, we don’t want to miss the opportunity to invite you to give to The Witness BCC for our “Will You Be a Witness?” Fundraising Campaign! The Witness BCC exists to encourage, educate, and empower Black Christians to be free in our souls and bodies. We have accomplished much in our 10 years of existence, but we are just getting started!  We have 4 goals for 2021: -Hire More Staff -Hire Columnists & Writers -Double our Podcast Suite -Create Communities of Refreshing These are LOFTY goals, but whatever vision God gives ought to be more than you can accomplish by yourself. That’s why we need YOUR help. Visit: thewitnessinc.com today to partner with us by designating your gift for “The Witness BCC”

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