It’s In the Experience

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley chats with Jen Stanchfield and Rick Curtis—two longtime leaders in the field—about the experiences, mentors, and meaningful books that helped shape their paths. Both recipients of prestigious awards from the Association for Experiential Education (AEE), Jen and Rick reflect on the evolution of the profession, the value of intentional practice, and the critical role of community in transformative learning. Whether you're new to experiential education or a seasoned practitioner, their insights, stories, and advice offer inspiration for every stage of your journey.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

In our season 3 premiere episode, host Sherry Bagley welcomes Callie Auman, assistant director for challenge course and team building at UNC Charlotte, and Robyn Handley-Lane, director of teen programs at the Dylan Jude Harrell Community Center. Together, they explore the dynamics of their cross-country partnership and how intentional collaboration fuels their work. The conversation dives into the power of vulnerability, the challenges and rewards of working remotely, and larger industry topics including inclusive gear design and the influence of cognitive psychology on experiential learning. Tune in to hear how strong, purpose-driven partnerships can elevate programs and create meaningful learning experiences.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

In this special crossover episode, host Sherry Bagley and Phil Brown, host of Vertical Playpen, discuss their experiences at the AEE Conference in Hong Kong. They explore the growing impact of the Asia Pacific region in experiential education, key takeaways from the event, and the evolving role of academia in the field. Plus, they dive into the importance of engaging the next generation of educators and share personal stories from their trip, highlighting the power of relationships and meaningful connections in experiential learning.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley sits down with Nick Magle-Haberek, co-owner of Adventure Therapist LLC and owner at Movemental Wellbeing, and Patrick McMillion, faculty member in Counseling and Counselor Education at Westminster University. Both guests serve on the AEE Certification Council and bring deep expertise and experience in adventure therapy. Together, they explore the importance of professional certifications like the Certified Clinical Adventure Therapist (CCAT) credential and the Certified Therapeutic Adventure Specialist (CTAS) credential, and how these certifications elevate the field. They also discuss the push for greater professionalization in the field, the impact of certification on practitioners and clients, and their visions for the future—including expanding community-based programs and more.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Host Sherry Bagley is joined by Christy Brodeur, Youth Learning Coordinator at Project Adventure, and Elyse Norton, Senior Coordinator of Youth and Adult Learning Programs at Project Adventure, who also serve as co-conveners of the AEE Northeast Regional Conference. Together, they share their unique career journeys into experiential education—Christy starting in summer camps and Elyse transitioning from music education. The conversation highlights the transformative benefits of regional conferences, including opportunities for networking, professional growth, and building a strong sense of community. They also delve into cherished traditions, unforgettable moments, and the vibrant, welcoming atmosphere that makes AEE events so impactful for attendees.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings. 

Join host Sherry Bagley for an inspiring conversation with Kymberly Lacrosse, executive director of Growing Greatness, along with team members Aaron Gaxiola and Lucia Perez. Together, they share how this grassroots organization in Watsonville, California, empowers youth and community members through outdoor adventures, leadership development, and transformative events—all offered free of charge. Hear personal stories of impact, memorable moments with participants, and how their collaborative approach is shaping confident, empowered changemakers. Tune in to explore the power of experiential learning and its role in building a stronger, more connected community.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she chats with Dr. Brent Bell, an associate professor at the University of New Hampshire, and Paul Wolf, program director of outdoor leadership at Southwestern Community College, about their journeys into experiential education. They delve into the value of outdoor orientation programs, their roles in shaping leadership, and the challenges of incorporating experiential learning into today's educational landscape.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she sits down with Carla Hacker and Melanie Wills, MPH, from Experiential Systems, to explore the significance of universal design and accessibility in challenge courses. They emphasize the importance of fostering inclusive mindsets and practices to ensure these courses are accessible to individuals with disabilities. The discussion also delves into the evolving future of experiential education and its critical role in promoting diversity, equity, and inclusion in the field.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she engages in a dynamic conversation with Deidra Goodwin, founder and experiential educator at DGoodwin Experiential LLC, and Troy Wilkerson, Bucket Band Director for the Arkansas Symphony Orchestra and advocate for civic service and experiential education. Together, they explore the power of mentorship and inclusivity, emphasizing the value of authentic connections, lifelong learning, and the mutual benefits that mentorship offers to both mentors and mentees.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she chats with Ed Maggart, an experiential educational consultant in North Carolina, and Sam Steiger, M.S., EMT-B, program coordinator in campus recreation at Minnesota State University Mankato. They share their personal experiences and perspectives on the importance of hands-on learning and personal growth. They chat about the role of mentorship, collaboration, and community in advancing experiential education. They also discuss the value of emerging professionals in shaping the future of AEE and the importance of diversity and inclusivity in experiential education.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she chats with Denise Mitten, PhD, an internationally recognized for her innovative scholarship in outdoor and environmental pedagogy, ethics, and gender, and Jill Overholt, associate professor of outdoor leadership at Warren Wilson College. This episode delves into the significance of research in experiential education, focusing on understanding program impacts and addressing biases. They explore the diverse benefits of nature, including physical, social, and spiritual aspects, and discuss the importance of nuanced approaches to these topics. The conversation also highlights the critical role of mentoring the next generation of experiential educators, underscoring the need for kindness, social and environmental stability, and connection in the field.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she chats with Zac and Celine Adair from the National Center for Outdoor & Adventure Education. Together, they share their experiences and insights on creating positive and empowering experiences for individuals of all ages. They discuss the challenges faced by outdoor education providers, including staffing, certification issues, and changing student attitudes, as well as the importance of collaboration to standardize basic technical skills and maintain full schedules year-round. 

Join host Sherry Bagley as she chats with Sarah Gough, executive director for Play For Peace, and Marilyn Levin, development director at Play For Peace. They share their career journeys in experiential education, reflect on the impactful relationship between the Association for Experiential Education and Play for Peace, and discuss the significance of collaboration in advancing the industry. Don't miss their valuable advice for aspiring experiential educators and the insights they offer for future generations.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.   Show notes Sarah Gough is a deeply committed nonprofit leader, facilitator, and mentor with a background in Social Work from the University of Michigan, specializing in Interpersonal Relationships. Her multifaceted career has spanned a multitude of leadership roles across many countries. Sarah's work as Executive Director with Play for Peace stands as a cornerstone of her career, showcasing her dedication to fostering young leaders and community unity on a global scale. Through her engagement with Play for Peace, Sarah has created environments where children and adults from different backgrounds come together to play, learn, and grow, transcending barriers of conflict and misunderstanding. This initiative, emblematic of Sarah's approach to peace education and experiential learning, emphasizes her commitment to harnessing the transformative power of play to build bridges and nurture a culture of peace.  In Guatemala, Sarah led Fotokids, breaking cycles of poverty through arts and technology, and spearheaded initiatives for sustainable development with CECI, demonstrating a unique blend of compassion and strategic vision. As the founder of Seeds of Hope, she developed a patient support services program, showcasing her dedication to healthcare and community service in a remote tuberculosis hospital. Sarah's work has been recognized with prestigious awards like the Michael Stratton Practitioner Award and featured in academic papers and global conferences, highlighting her expertise in peace education and experiential learning. Her involvement in diverse international projects and her leadership in developing partnerships and programs underscore her dedication to combating poverty, exclusion, and inequality.     Marilyn Levin, MSW is the Development Director for Play for Peace.  She is an award winning social justice advocate, a master trainer and professional speaker and the author of Experiential Activities for a Better World (AEE Karl Rohnke Creativity Award 2012)

Join host Sherry Bagley as she engages in a conversation with Rosanne Mistretta, assistant director for program development, SUNY NY Master Teacher Program, and Jeromy Slaby, science teacher and experiential programs coordinator at the Jewish Day School of Metropolitan Seattle. Together, they delve into their extensive careers in experiential education, sharing insights on their work focus, classroom practices, and guiding principles. Gain valuable advice for new teachers entering the realm of experiential education, learn about their commitment to community engagement, and discover the valuable lessons they've learned from each other along the way.

Join host Sherry Bagley as she engages in a conversation with Kim Sacksteder, MSW, LISW-SV, CCAT, co-owner of Adventure Therapist, and José González, director of experiential education at The Overlake School in Redmond, WA. Delve into their personal journeys in experiential education, exploring their professional focuses and the paths that led them to become volunteer leaders and integral members of the AEE Accreditation Council. Discover the significance of accreditation for programs and gain insights into what the landscape of accreditation may look like a decade into the future.   It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Chris Ortiz, the associate director for the leadership development team and the program director for team development at Shavers Creek Environmental Center, and Steve Smith, founder of Experiential Consulting LLC. The three share their unique journeys into experiential education, delve into their passionate pursuits within the field, discuss the evolving needs of the industry, and reminisce about some enlightening 'ah-ha' moments.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Aaron Leonard, a retired U.S. Army officer with over 35 years of leadership experience and focuses on developing therapeutic outdoor adventure programs for the well-being of our guardians military service members, veterans and first responders, and Fred Borroel, a licensed professional counselor, supervisor in Texas and founder of RelateAbility, PLLC. The three talk about their path in experiential education, helping the helpers, current struggles, finding clients and marketing efforts, and advice for the next generation of experiential educators. 

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Stephanie Speicher, an associate professor and the digital fluency faculty in residence at Weber State University, and Antonio Galván, founder, CEO, and senior trainer at Galika. The three talk about experiential training and development for organizations, creating community and a sense of belonging in a digital landscape, facilitating experiential education for adults, creating spaces for experiential ed, and geographic differences in the industry.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Joanna Bettmann Schaefer, a professor at the University of Utah College of Social Work, and W. Thomas Means, an assistant professor at University of Wisconsin La Crosse and director of Camp Brosius. The three talk about their career journeys in academia and doctoral work; the difference between wilderness, recreation and adventure therapy; finding research projects and associated researchers; and the importance of being connected in the experiential education community.     It's in the Experience is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Dr. Amy Climer, founder and CEO of Climer Consulting, and Mo Kappes, Assistant Director of Experiential Education at University of Wisconsin-Madison. The three talk about the AEE International Conference and what keeps them coming back year after year, what to look forward to at this year's conference, challenges they're facing in experiential education, and what they have learned from each other.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Bryn Lottig, co-founder of Kikori, and Christy Brock, executive director and founder of New Adventures Counseling. The three talk about business ownership, the importance of work-life balance, being involved with AEE's Therapeutic Adventure Professional Group, their favorite reflection prompts, and their vision for experiential education.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Esther Ayers, a dedicated researcher and advocate for mental health in Latinx communities, and Shoshanna Sumka, executive director of the Independent Schools Experiential Education Network. The three talk about their experience with experiential education and personal journeys in the field, the intersection of diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging and experiential education, and the differences between researchers and practitioners.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Dr. Anita Tucker, a professor at the New Hampshire and associate director of the Outdoor Behavioral Healthcare Center, and Tony Alvarez, owner of Alvarez Consulting LLC, formerly Adventures In Training Inc.. The three talk about their career journeys in social work and experiential, the definition of adventure therapy and how it fits into experiential education, the importance of shared experiences, collaboratively writing books, and the answer the question, “what is the weirdest thing you've used as a prop during an initiative.”   This episode is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Jane Panicucci, owner and principal of the Active Learning Group, and Jay Zarr, co-owner of Story Tellers Travels and Imagine If a Mind, Body and Spirit Connections Company in Colorado. The three talk about getting involved in experiential education, career journeys, equipping leaders through experiential education, the importance of volunteering, industry challenges, and creating relationships. Oh, and we have a commonality discussion on whether or not ice cream should be considered a food group!  This episode is produced by Association Briefings.

In this episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Callie Auman, Assistant Director for Challenge Course and Team Building at UNC Charlotte's Venture Outdoor Leadership, and Brad Daniel, co-founder and executive director of 2nd Nature TREC in Black Mountain, NC. The three talk about the evolution of experiential education, career journeys, freedoms of owning a business, the benefits of working for a university, and the differences between environmental and experiential education. All of this AND a heated discussion over the best kind of cookies! 

In our inaugural episode, host Sherry Bagley, sits down with Brian Croft, Assistant Director of Outdoor Education-Touch of Nature at Southern Illinois University and Rod Field, Founder and CEO at Higher Ground Group Australia. The three talk about the commonalities and differences in experiential education in the U.S. and Australia, their career journeys in the industry, and the importance of being involved with the AEE community. Oh, and there might even be discussions about Madonna and James Bond! 

The Association for Experiential Education presents It's In the Experience hosted by  Sherry Bagley, executive director of AEE. She chats various guests using experiential education principles and methods, offering an engaging and often humorous journey to learn about experiential education and its many forms and uses. Check out the trailer for season one!