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Retire Smarter. Follow on Apple Podcasts or Subscribe: Google Podcasts | Spotify | iHeartRadio | TuneIn | RSS _________________________ Let's face it. Retirement isn't for everyone. A notable percentage of people return to work within the first five years of retirement. But what's the pathway back? Here's one that may not be on your radar. Savvy organizations who need experienced talent have created returnship programs targeting people who are returning to work following a career break. While these programs primarily have focused on mothers re-entering the workforce, some include people returning from caregiving, medical issues and retirees. Shay Baker of Return Utah joins us to discuss how to return to work from a career break - for any reason. Shay Baker joins us from Utah. _________________________ Bio Shay Baker is the proud overseer of Return Utah, the first public career reentry program in the country. Working alongside Lt. Governor Deidre Henderson, Baker is responsible for Return Utah's development, continued innovation, programming, and marketing for Utah state agencies, public/private partners, and returnees. Baker is a returner having participated in Return Utah's inaugural cohort. She has since presented to many of the nation's lawmakers at the Council of State Governments, and has been featured in publications by iRelaunch, the Wall Street Journal, NPR, the Society of Human Resource Management, and Pew Charitable Trusts. Prior to her 8-year career break, Baker worked as a television news reporter and producer for KTVX and KSL-TV in Salt Lake City. She holds a bachelor's degree in Communication from Weber State University and lives in Layton, Utah with her husband and three daughters. ___________________________ For More on Shay Baker Return Utah ___________________________ Mentioned in This Podcast Episode iRelaunch ___________________________ Make Next Year Your Best Year - with the Habits You Want! Start small, but start smart. "You are what you repeatedly do." Join our 3 week Habits group program and get 2024 off to a great start! Learn More | Register Here ___________________________ Podcast Episodes You May Like The Power of Reinvention – Joanne Lipman Purpose and a Paycheck - Chris Farrell Why Are People Unretiring? – Nicole Maestas Working Longer – Scott MacKillop ____________________________ Wise Quotes On Returnships "The pandemic has really caused sort of a small explosion in career reentry or return to work programs. And we know that that's because so many jobs were lost at the height of the pandemic, especially among women and particularly marginalized women. And so while Returnships and career reentry return to work programs did exist prior to the pandemic, and they were growing slowly and steadily prior to the pandemic, the pandemic brought about this need for employers to basically acquire talent and particularly diverse talent. So a lot of organizations looked to these career re-entry, return to work models to try to appeal to people, particularly women." On Returning to Work "We have individuals who've returned to the workforce after taking breaks to enhance their education, to start businesses, to volunteer, to run for political office. So re-entry for them is going to look different. Maybe you're not running your own company, but you're doing something that someone else is asking you to do, which comes with some adjustments. And we also have illness related career breaks, either caring for an elderly loved one or a child who may have been sick battling your own illness. And those come with an extensive amount of adjustments regardless of your reason." On Taking the Leap "First and foremost, just do it. Don't think too much. Just do it. If you think too much, you're going to back out.
Liz Kern calls in to give an update on the Feeding Families Fund Drive. An unusual twist caused a brief delay in the child sex crimes trial against a Fresno attorney who works with children. Lingerie, underwear, and handcuffs are among the items Fresno police seized in 2019 as evidence in the investigation into Jennifer Walters. The most important evidence in the case may be what scientists found on two pieces of a futon in the boy's family home, where Walters lived for four years. (sperm on Sample 2A and Sample 2B) Analysts say there's a one in 53 septillion chance those cells came from anybody other than Walters. University of Utah police officers have arrested an engineering student accused of threatening to detonate a nuclear reactor on campus if the school's football team didn't win over the weekend, KTLA sister station KTVX reports. The student, a 21-year-old woman, is accused of posting the threat on the anonymous social media platform Yik Yak. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Liz Kern calls in to give an update on the Feeding Families Fund Drive. An unusual twist caused a brief delay in the child sex crimes trial against a Fresno attorney who works with children. Lingerie, underwear, and handcuffs are among the items Fresno police seized in 2019 as evidence in the investigation into Jennifer Walters. The most important evidence in the case may be what scientists found on two pieces of a futon in the boy's family home, where Walters lived for four years. (sperm on Sample 2A and Sample 2B) Analysts say there's a one in 53 septillion chance those cells came from anybody other than Walters. University of Utah police officers have arrested an engineering student accused of threatening to detonate a nuclear reactor on campus if the school's football team didn't win over the weekend, KTLA sister station KTVX reports. The student, a 21-year-old woman, is accused of posting the threat on the anonymous social media platform Yik Yak. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transgender cheerleader booted from camp denies physical altercation A transgender cheerleader kicked out of a Texas college camp for allegedly choking a teammate has denied that there was any physical altercation, claiming that she was booted from the team based solely on a dad's “assumptions.” Averie Chanel Medlock, 25, insisted that her side of the story wasn't heard before she was slapped with a criminal citation and kicked off her cheer team for allegedly assaulting another cheerleader on July 21 at Ranger College. “I was kicked off the team for assumptions, because of the dad's assumptions of what happened,” Medlock told news stations KTAB/KRBC of the father of her teammate. Medlock, whose real name is Averie Chanel Satchell, claimed she and the other girl, identified only as Karleigh, had an ongoing dispute that boiled over, prompting her teammate to call her father and claim she choked her. Medlock then told officers she didn't put her hands on Karleigh, but she was later cited for assault by physical contact, according to the stations. Medlock said no one at the camp had any issues with her identity until Karleigh and her father complained. “They knew that I was trans,” Medlock said. “They knew that I was different from all the other girls. It wasn't a big deal until her dad came up and made a scene.” Medlock was able to take part in Ranger College's cheer program camp after being legally classified as a female in Texas and changing her name about a month earlier, according to the report. Medlock posted footage of what she called “video evidence” showing that she did not assault Karleigh as her teammate called her a “man” while saying she had a penis. “Her father is going around saying that I choked her out and made her pass out,” Medlock wrote in the post. “I was just joking with Karleigh,” Medlock said on the clip. “I've never done anything mean to Karleigh.” Medlock called out Karleigh's father, Mike Jones, in the post, insisting that he “get his facts straight.” Jones, meanwhile, has claimed that his daughter called him at 1 a.m. while hiding in a room away from Medlock. “I just wonder when this person will own up to their own actions!” Jones wrote on Facebook. “And stop trying to ruin our lives!” French fireman arrested, accused of being serial fire starter A French fireman was arrested on suspicion of being a serial fire starter in a twisted bid for an adrenalin fix. The volunteer first responder, who hails from the south of France, is accused of kickstarting a series of wildfires in the Herault region, not far from the city of Montpellier. Earlier this month, Europe faced its most extreme heatwave to date, with temperatures reaching unprecedented highs of 105 degrees. About 14,000 people were evacuated from France's Gironde region as more than 1,200 firefighters battled to bring the flames under control after a wildfire ravaged parts of Europe. Now, officials are investigating whether the 30-something firefighter — dubbed “pyromaniac fireman” by local news outlets — was responsible for July's blaze. The man had admitted kickstarting infernos with a lighter on May 26, July 21, and most recently, on July 26 and July 27, Montpellier prosecutor Fabrice Belargent, told the Agence France-Presse. “Asked about his motive, he declared that he had done this in order to provoke an intervention by the fire brigade to save him from an oppressive family environment and because of the excitement these interventions caused him,” Belargent said in a statement. “Adrenaline he called it — these are his own words. He also said he had a need for social recognition,” he added. The man worked as a forest engineer for 20 years and is a municipal councilor. He is charged with the “destruction of forests, moors, scrubland or plantations belonging to others under conditions likely to expose people to physical harm.” Speaking to BFMTV, his lawyer, Marie Bar said: “He apologized to the firemen who he works with as he calls them his big family. This is someone who is very devoted to his work. “He finds it hard to explain. In a way he is relieved to have been arrested. He explains it as an addiction.” Meanwhile, former fire brigade colonel Ludovic Pinganaud told the outlet, “It's disgusting to have within the organization this type of individual.” Man trying to kill spider with lighter sparked Utah wildfire A man determined to kill a spider with a lighter ignited a 60-acre wildfire in drought-stricken Utah, authorities said. The suspect, who wasn't immediately identified, was arrested Monday afternoon as 60 acres burned between Springville and Provo. He told responding deputies he had tried “using a lighter to burn a spider” before the fast-moving blaze broke out, according to the Utah County Sheriff's Office. Deputies also found marijuana and drug paraphernalia in his backpack, department officials said. The fire did not destroy any buildings or prompt any evacuations, the Salt Lake Tribune reported. But the firebug's shocking admission caught the eye of Utah Gov. Spencer Cox, who took the opportunity to send a message to the state's younger crowd. “Um, don't do drugs kids (and don't start spiders on fire during a drought),” Cox tweeted late Monday. The fire sent smoke throughout Utah Valley, where crews from Springville, Provo, Mapleton and Utah County fire departments responded, KUTV reported. Two helicopters were also sent to the scene as flames crept up a nearby mountainside. One of the choppers drew water from a reservoir to dump on the blaze, Provo fire officials told the station. It's unclear why the man resorted to using a lighter in his ill-guided attempt to kill the spider, Utah County sheriff officials said. “We don't know why he was doing that,” Sgt. Spencer Cannon told KSL late Monday. “He has been arrested and is being booked into jail right now on a fire-related charge.” The man, who was arrested east of Springville on drug possession and reckless burning charges, had been in the area with his dog, KTVX reported “Not sure exactly why he felt the need to have to burn the spider, but you know, all the regret in the world doesn't change the outcome based on whatever reason there was for him doing that,” Cannon said. Teen killed, 4 injured after maniac stabbed them while out river tubing A Minnesota teen was killed and four other people were wounded after a man went on a stabbing spree near a Wisconsin river during a day of water tubing. The suspect, a 52-year-old man, was arrested about 90 minutes after the attack Saturday at Apple River, St. Croix County Sheriff Scott Knudson said during a press conference. Investigators believe the victims and suspect were tubing on the river in separate groups prior to the stabbings. “At this time we're not sure what started this incident,” Knudson told reporters Saturday night. The 17-year-old boy was rushed to an area hospital, where he was pronounced dead. The other victims — one woman and three men — are in their early 20s, the sheriff said. Most of the wounds suffered were to the torso, he said. A photo taken of the suspect by a witness helped authorities track down him down, Knudson said. The knife used in the attack was not located as of Saturday evening. “It's been a number of years since a stabbing has taken place, maybe 15 years now,” Knudson said of the area. “I'm sure that anybody who witnessed this will never forget it, he added. “So it is a tragedy.” Stabber Claims Self Defense Nicolae Miu, 52, claims he lashed out in self-defense during an encounter that was sparked by a lost phone in the water on Saturday at popular water tubing destination Apple River, according to reports. His stabbing attack killed 17-year-old honor student Isaac Schuman. Miu was charged with one count of first-degree homicide and four counts of attempted first-degree homicide. Following his arrest, Miu told an investigator “they attacked me” and “I was in self-defense mode,” MPR News reported, citing a criminal complaint. Miu, who was water tubing with his wife and others, was searching for a lost phone in a watertight container using a snorkel when he ran into others, MPR News reported. At some point, he was accused of “looking for little girls” and being a “child molester” as members of the group surrounded him after he grabbed the water tubes of juveniles, KARE 11 reported, citing the complaint. Video from the incident then shows the group move toward Miu, who fell into the water, the complaint states. Before a tuber could apparently shove him again, the suspect stabbed him with a knife and then attacked others, according to court documents obtained by KARE 11. One witness reportedly said Miu swam up to the group and looked at them “really weird and sketchily” and at least two people told authorities the altercation turned physical because Miu punched a young woman in the face. Prosecutors believe Miu could have walked away from the situation before it escalated, KARE 11 reported. On top of his self-defense argument, Miu claimed the knife used in the attack did not belong to him and told authorities his life is now “down the tubes,” CBS Minnesota reported. Lollapalooza security guard arrested for allegedly making false mass shooting threat to leave work early A security guard who worked Chicago's Lollapalooza music festival last weekend is accused of making fake mass shooting threats to get out of work early. Janya Williams, 18, allegedly sent her supervisor an anonymous message via TextNow Friday afternoon that said, “Mass shooting at 4pm location Lollapalooza. We have 150 targets.” The supervisor quickly contacted their supervisors and the Chicago police and the FBI were notified. When the supervisor told the team about the threat, Williams allegedly told the supervisor that her sister had seen a similar threat on Facebook. After the supervisor asked Williams to send a screenshot of the threat, she is accused of creating a Facebook account under the name “Ben Scott” and posting a message that said, “Massive shooting at Lollapalooza Grant Park 6:00 p.m.” She then took a screenshot of the post and sent it to her supervisor, prosecutors alleged. The FBI, however, reportedly traced the TextNow message back to Williams' IP address and iCloud, prosecutors said. She allegedly admitted to faking the threats “because she wanted to leave work early,” prosecutors said, and was arrested for felony making a false terrorism threat. She was booked into jail and is being held on $50,000 bail.
Shay Baker is Program Manager of Return Utah, Utah's career reentry program. Utah is the first state to launch a career reentry program. Shay was a participant in the inaugural cohort of Return Utah that launched in fall 2021, and was subsequently hired to run the program. The second cohort launched in January with almost three times as many participants as the first. Shay is a relauncher herself, leaving her career as a reporter and producer for KTVX, the Salt Lake City ABC affiliate TV station, for what turned out to be an eight year career break. In this episode, Shay shares the unique and varied scope of the Return Utah program, her mandate to grow the program, and her future vision for it.
The third season and twenty-eighth episode of All Heart with Paul Cardall the pianist is joined by his father Duane Cardall, a Broadcast Journalist and former Director of Editorials for Utah's NBC affiliate KSL Television. They discuss how news has changed from the days when three television stations were committed to broadcasting the news as a public service to our time when 24 hour news cycles compete for advertising profits. Paul explores Duane's gift as a journalist, from the time he was interested in being on the radio to becoming one of Utah's most respected and trusted journalist. As satellite technology advanced in the late 70's Duane was one of the first “local” station journalists to broadcast live that year from Tokyo, Japan and and couple of months later, Israel. He also offers insight on how to balance between his faith, family and career. ABOUT DUANE CARDALL:Duane Cardall worked for KSL Television and Radio from 1972 until his retirement December 31, 2010. He spent his last 13-years at the station as Director of Editorials where he was responsible for researching, writing and presenting three to five editorials each week.Mr. Cardall's editorial work followed more than 25 years with KSL News where his reporting duties required him to cover a broad spectrum of daily news events. His specific assignment as Religion Specialist took him, not only throughout Utah and the United States, but also to more 50 nations of the world. He interviewed or provided on-scene coverage of such diverse religious leaders as Pope John Paul II, the Dalai Lama and Rev. Jerry Falwell. Over the course of his reporting career, he documented the international travels of four presidents of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. In 1978, he participated in the station's first transoceanic live shot from Tokyo, Japan, and a month later Mr. Cardall hosted an historic live 30-minute documentary from Jerusalem, Israel. He broadcast live from such diverse lands as Russia, Mexico, England, Germany and Hong Kong. In 1991, he provided KSL viewers and listeners with exclusive coverage from Leningrad of the attempted Soviet Coup. Mr. Cardall is especially noted for the many award-winning documentaries he produced: from his personal experience of running a marathon, to eloquently describing the subsistence level existence of cultures in such faraway lands as Mali and Bolivia.Prior to joining Channel 5, Mr. Cardall worked as a reporter for Salt Lake City's KALL Radio (1968-1969) and for KCPX-TV, now KTVX (1969-1972) in Salt Lake City.Mr. Cardall was born in Denver, Colorado but was raised in Salt Lake City. He graduated from the University of Utah with a B.S. degree in Journalism. Among the many awards and honors Mr. Cardall has received are Regional Emmy Awards in 1978, 1982, and 1987; numerous “Excellence in Journalism” awards from the Society of Professional Journalists; a 1987 “Wilbur Award” from the National Religious Public Relations Council; and a 1990 “Gabriel Award” from the National Association of Catholic Broadcasters. In 2009, Mr. Cardall chaired and hosted the annual convention of the National Conference of Editorial Writers (NCEW) in Salt Lake City. Mr. Cardall and his wife, Margaret, have eight children and at last count 27 grandchildren. In January 2016 the Cardall's returned from serving as missionaries in London at the Hyde Park Chapel Visitors' Centre of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints where Elder Cardall was the Director. Prior to their most recent assignment, they served for 18-months at the church's Washington DC Temple Visitors' Center.All Heart with Paul Cardall is sponsored by doTERRA, whose products are designed to offer hope and healing. For more information on Paul Cardall, please visit https://paulcardall.com/ or find him on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, and YouTube.Episode artwork Episode transcript Socials (insert links for all social handles)Website - www.paulcardall.com/podcastFacebook - @paulcardallmusicIG - @paulcardallIG - @allheartwithpaulcardallTwitter - @paulcardallYoutube - @cardall
This week we speak with Randall Carlisle, who, before he retired a few years back, had been a TV news anchor in the Utah market on and off since 1980 – that's four decades, people. Randall started at KUTV, but spent the most time – two decades-plus – at KTVX. We think you'll find this episode to be revealing and blunt: Randall talks openly about his addiction and recovery, and about what it was like to be a top talent in local-market broadcast journalism. We had a great time talking to Randall, and we hope you enjoy the conversation as much as we did.Support the show
This week's guest is Paul Murphy, Don's friend and fellow journalism student and practitioner at Utah State University. After graduation, Paul began his broadcast journalism career in Texas, then returned to Utah and worked at KTVX for more than a decade. After that, he jumped into government service as Director of Communications and Policy for the attorney general's office, where he was for a dozen years. And he's done plenty since, which we talk about. We had a great time chatting with Paul, and really hope you enjoy the conversation.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/themediascrum)
This week we are joined by Ken Verdoia, the non-Mormon authority on polygamy and a seasoned award winning journalist for PBS. Plural marriage is a controversial topic impacting Utah's history. We dive into the effects it's had on culture, politics, women, society, and religion. Ken is also nationally regarded for his on-air presence as a journalist. We discuss journalism through the ages and our responsibility to truth find and stop the echo. He’s the whole package – academic knowledge and amazing story-telling. Ken recently retired from PBS Utah. At PBS Utah he produced 25 documentaries and received 29 regional Emmy awards earning him the unofficial title of "Utah’s Storyteller". Before a 35-year career with PBS, Ken was a journalist and news anchor for several news organizations including KTVX and KALL. In his book on the evolution of the Utah Territory, Utah, The Struggle for Statehood, he weighs the many twists and turns of the practice of polygamy. SPONSORS Kiln. https://kiln.co/ https://www.instagram.com/kiln.co/?hl=en FOLLOW US Follow Living Unscripted Podcast https://www.instagram.com/livingunscriptedpodcast/?hl=en Follow Caitlin https://www.instagram.com/caitlinhhansen/?hl=en Follow Brooke https://www.instagram.com/brooke_mangum/?hl=en Subscribe to our channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYoaGeTb_LnJ-qKNRcWUeUA?sub_confirmation=1
Today we talk with Scott Pierce, who's been writing TV criticism for decades in the Utah newspaper market – for 20 years at the Deseret News and the past 10 years at The Salt Lake Tribune, along with a dose of daily breaking news reportage. Back in 1984, Mark and Scott were the respective sports editors at the BYU and the University of Utah student newspapers. And Scott and I were friends and contemporary TV critics for a couple of years in the mid-1990s. As you'll figure out pretty quickly, Scott has not been in this position as long as he has for any other reason than he's sharp and he's good at what he does. So, sit back and enjoy our chat with Utah's foremost TV critic.Support the show (https://www.patreon.com/themediascrum)
Nicea DeGering spends her time hosting Good Things Utah but spends her time working out and staying in shape. Return to Real host Neil Anderson pinpoints what keeps Nicea so fit in the public eye. You can find Nicea at https://www.facebook.com/niceadegering/. And check out Neil's gym GPP Fitness at gppfitness.com. Straight talk with health and fitness experts. Neil Anderson has helped people find their fitness for 26 years but is still genuinely curious about what works. Neil believes everybody is different and everybody is searching for the best version of themselves. If you’re not seeing success, whatever you are doing right now has to change. Neil wants to get brilliant minds in front of you, so you can find the change that works for you. Always positive. Always interesting. Always real.
On this episode of the Fan Made Podcast, we're talking about creating characters that people will clamor to cosplay. We sit down with author and artist Phillip Sevy ("Tomb Raider," "The Freeze") to break down the character creation process and talk about his new series "TRIAGE" (out September 4, 2019 on Dark Horse Comics). You will never look at comics the same way again. We also explore the relationship between artist, character design, and cosplay and the influence they have on one another.
"Who would win in a fight?" If you're a fan of comic books, fantasy, or sci-fi, it's more than likely a discussion you've had. On this episode of the Fan Made podcast, we pit the residents of two fantasy worlds against each other: the characters of JRR Tolkien's The Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit and the characters of George RR Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire. It's anything goes and no holds barred. We were going to hold off on this bout until after the completion of ASOIAF, but then we'd never get to have it. So, like fans of the books, we settled for the completion of Game of Thrones, the TV adaptation, instead. You heard right, we're forcing people to choose between Samwise and Samwell.
Peter Mayhew played the mighty Chewbacca in the original Star Wars trilogy and passed away on April 30th. On this episode of the Fan Made podcast, we hear from Peter Mayhew about a lifetime spent in the Star Wars universe, what it's like to embody such an iconic character, and why Chewie and Mayhew were so beloved by fans... from an interview he gave to ABC4 News.
Years after watching it all fall apart, these intrepid cosplayers finally manage to pull together one of their dream group cosplays. From construction to comic convention, we discuss the surprise successes and the extraordinary fails leading up to the cosplay debut, as well as what's it's like to bring a comic book character to life-- especially when the Rat Queens (Image Comics/Shadowline) are so near and dear to our hearts. On this episode of the Fan Made podcast, expect pro tips, lessons learned, and a fair amount of distraction. As always, stick around to the very end where we geek out about everything from Avengers: Endgame to Detective Pikachu and the result of a Ryan Reynolds character mash-up cosplay. (Sexy Detective Deadpool Pikachu, anyone?)
Fan Made shines the spotlight on cosplayer Kiki Furia. We dive deep into how cosplaying can be positive and empowering even in the face of bullying and body policing. The fandom community is hardly immune to these things, but is it getting better? Kiki Furia offers insight into how comic conventions are working to listen to the voices of fans and keep con-goers safe. We'll hit on the secret magic of wigs and, as always, take some time at the end to geek out about whatever we want. If you have a topic or question or mean comment for Fan Made podcast (or just want to show off a thing you made) contact us at fanmadepodcast@gmail.com.
Spend a day in the life of a cosplayer and you'll find you get a lot of questions. Sometimes the same question over and over and over again. Cosplayers Zabracus Cosplay and CosplaySJ join the Fan Made podcast panel once again to talk about cosplaying out in the wild and when gatekeepers try to tear them down. And, of course, we can't help but geek out about Game of Thrones. If you have a topic or question or mean comment for Fan Made (or just want to show off a thing you made) contact us at fanmadepodcast@gmail.com.
Fan Made is shining the spotlight on a cosplayer so good sometimes his own kids don't recognize him. After cosplaying for 10+ years, Stephan Watson (Cracked Brain Cosplay) is still finding ways to push his limits as a cosplayer. From Baby Worf (Star Trek: The Next Generation) to adventures in voice acting and mishaps in 3D printing, he also demonstrates how cosplaying can spin off and spiral into a multitude of avenues and ventures. When you're one of the only black cosplayers most of your friends know you get a lot of requests, and he's got a few ideas on how we can make the fandom community as open an accepting as it claims to be. If you have a topic or question or mean comment for Fan Made podcast (or just want to show off a thing you made) contact us at fanmadepodcast@gmail.com.
What happens in someone's life to make them one day become a cosplayer? Are they born that way? Were they bitten by a radioactive spider who loves mountain man rendezvous? Zabracus Cosplay and CosplaySJ join the Fan Made podcast panel to talk cosplayer origin stories.
Recently, Chris McMillan from The Shadow Over Portland () joined Derek at Portland's NW Film Center for a double feature of Alfred Hitchcock's classic, Psycho, and the new documentary 78/52: Hitchcock's Shower Scene (dir. Alexandre O. Philippe). And did we mention that Psycho was a 35mm print?
We are graced by the talented, funny, and VERY knowledgeable Christie Porter. Christie is the news producer for ABC affiliate KTVX in Salt Lake City, Utah and talks to us about geeks in the media, old media vs new media, and how the world has changed in news.Be sure to follow Christie on Twitter or over at ABC4Utah. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.