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Day 21. The last day of evidence in Commonwealth v. Lindsay Clancy.Judge William Sullivan opened with a line from Henry V. Four hours later, defense attorney Kevin Reddington was reading the prosecution's own opening statement out loud to the prosecution's own final witness and asking him if he agreed with it. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, forensic psychiatrist at the University of Virginia and senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, said the statement minimizes what Lindsay Clancy was going through.That is the state's closer telling a jury the state's theory is too small.He also gave prosecutors the cleanest planning testimony of the trial. Both things happened the same day, from the same witness, under oath.This episode walks Day 21 in chronological order, start to finish.This episode contains discussion of child death, suicide, and psychiatric crisis.If you are struggling: call or text 988 for the Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. For postpartum mood disorders, the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline is free, confidential and available 24/7 at 1-833-TLC-MAMA.We Saw the Devil publishes three times a week.Website and full archive: wesawthedevil.com Patreon: We Saw the Devil Twitter: @wesawthedevil Instagram: @wesawthedevilpodcast TikTok: @wesawthedevilpolitics Facebook: wesawthedevil Robin on Instagram: @robin_wstdBecome a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics

The Commonwealth saved one of its most direct challenges to Lindsay Clancy's account for its final rebuttal witness. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who has worked with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit for three decades, compared what Lindsay told him with her medical records, digital searches, Patrick Clancy's account and the physical sequence of events on the day she killed her children. His testimony does not negate the serious mental illness described throughout this trial, and it does not decide the case by itself. It does, however, put the central legal question in plain view: did Lindsay's illness leave her unable to understand that killing Cora, Dawson and Callan was wrong, or do the planning, timing, choices and later inconsistencies show that she still understood what she was doing? In this episode, I walk through the strongest parts of Saathoff's testimony, the fair challenges the defense can make, and the exact courtroom clips that allow you to hear the evidence for yourself.#LindsayClancy #CoraClancy #DawsonClancy #CallanClancy #GregorySaathoff #PatrickClancy #KevinReddington #Duxbury #Massachusetts #TrueCrime #Court #MentalHealth #PostpartumPsychosis========================================Website: www.ProfilingEvil.com========================================Email your questions to: ProfilingEvil@gmail.com========================================

Testimony has wrapped in the case against Massachusetts mom, Lindsay Clancy, and closing arguments are set for Thursday. The final witness was one of three rebuttal witnesses called by the prosecution, all of whom testified that Clancy was not suffering from postpartum psychosis at the time she strangled her three young children to death. The defense spent hours attempting to discredit the senior forensic psychologist for the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit, who told jurors Clancy was in control and aware of the illegality of her actions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Testimony has wrapped in the case against Massachusetts mom, Lindsay Clancy, and closing arguments are set for Thursday. The final witness was one of three rebuttal witnesses called by the prosecution, all of whom testified that Clancy was not suffering from postpartum psychosis at the time she strangled her three young children to death. The defense spent hours attempting to discredit the senior forensic psychologist for the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit, who told jurors Clancy was in control and aware of the illegality of her actions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

***Due to time constants, this episode is unedited. Day 20 was the last full day of evidence in the Lindsay Clancy murder trial, and it was the strangest day of the whole five weeks.The morning belonged to Dr. Kirk Heilbrun, the forensic psychologist the Commonwealth hired to explain postpartum psychosis to a jury. On cross examination, Kevin Reddington established that Heilbrun last treated a patient with postpartum psychosis in 1982, has never published a word on it, wrote his only article on psychosis in 1977, and has been paid roughly $54,000 at $300 an hour.That same witness told jurors Lindsay Clancy committed what he called altruistic filicide. That she killed her three children out of love, so they would not be left behind or suffer without her after she took her own life. The prosecution has argued for five weeks that this was planned and methodical. Their own expert just told the jury it was despair.The afternoon belonged to Dr. Gregory Saathoff, forensic psychiatrist at the University of Virginia and a senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He gave that jury something no witness had given them in five weeks: a moment by moment account of how Cora, Dawson and Callan died, sourced entirely to Lindsay Clancy's own words. The refrigerator. The chicken nuggets. The 5:34 phone call. The voice. The order. And then he spent the rest of the day taking it apart.We go through the whole day in order, gavel to gavel, because the order is the argument.In this episode:The Monday mistrial motion, and why "mortal sin" has now been put in front of this jury twice.Heilbrun's direct: bipolar two, peritraumatic dissociation, and the eighteen minute problem. "Why the basement. Who among the children goes first. What do you say to the kids to keep them from panicking."The cross: 1982, the $54,000, the "beast" question, the day program in Rhode Island that would not take her, and Reddington standing behind Lindsay Clancy's wheelchair.Saathoff's five attacks on the voice, including the line that is going to end up in closing arguments: "Committing the act is not curative of the voice. I've not ever seen that."Why the chicken nuggets are contested evidence and not a poignant detail.The circus outside the courthouse, the livestream, and the TikToker the defense actually tried to put on the stand.Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/we-saw-the-devil-unfiltered-political-analysis--4433638/support.Website: http://www.wesawthedevil.comPatreon: http://www.patreon.com/wesawthedevilRobin's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/robin_wstdTwitter: http://www.twitter.com/WeSawtheDevilInstagram: http://www.instagram.com/wesawthedevilpodcast.TikTok: tiktok.com/@wesawthedevilpolitics

An FBI forensic psychiatrist found a crack in the voice that Lindsay Clancy says told her to kill her children — and it starts with a bowl of chicken nuggets on a couch.Gregory Saathoff, a senior psychiatrist for the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, testified on August 25 that Clancy told him she was at the refrigerator preparing chicken nuggets for the children when Patrick called and the voice began. Patrick told Saathoff the children were already eating. Crime scene photographs showed a bowl on the couch. Saathoff called the discrepancy "a cause for significant concern" and identified a second inconsistency — Clancy gave different timelines for when the voice started to two separate evaluators, a gap of roughly twenty minutes.Earlier in the day, prosecution expert Kirk Heilbrun completed his testimony with a collision the jury will carry into deliberations. He told the courtroom Clancy is a grieving mother who tried hard to get help and is not self-centered — then testified she's criminally responsible. Reddington spent the cross exposing his $54,000 bill and his last encounter with postpartum psychosis in 1982. Heilbrun didn't move. Closing arguments expected Thursday.END_LINKSListen Anywhere You Get Podcasts: https://pod.link/1655749292Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspod?sub_confirmation=1Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodDISCLAIMERThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.HASHTAGS#LindsayClancy #LindsayClancyTrial #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PostpartumPsychosis #DuxburyMassachusetts #PlymouthSuperiorCourt #InsanityDefense #MaternalMentalHealth #TrueCrimeToday

The murder trial of Lindsay Clancy, the 34-year-old Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children — Cora, 5, Dawson, 3, and Callan, 7 months — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023, moved into expert psychiatric testimony this week. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and is mounting an insanity defense built around severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication, argued by attorney Kevin Reddington.The prosecution called in serious firepower: Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who's worked with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. His testimony cut in a specific direction — he said the voice Clancy described hearing never instructed her on how or where to kill her children. That distinction matters more than it sounds like it should in an insanity case; prosecutors want jurors to see agency where the defense wants them to see command hallucinations.Saathoff also walked the jury through what he called a sense of "burdensomeness" — Clancy believing she was a drain on her family, that returning to work wasn't realistic, that the finances didn't work with her in the picture. He called her suicide attempt "very, very serious," citing the multiple methods she tried as evidence of real intent, not a cry for help.He diagnosed bipolar II as the best fit for her condition and confirmed she was suffering from a mental disease at the time — but then testified she understood right from wrong and was criminally responsible regardless.Clancy survived her own suicide attempt by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Husband Patrick Clancy, out running errands during the killings, has since relocated to Manhattan. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court, expected to run several more weeks.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #BipolarII #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #FBIProfiler #Breaking

Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who works with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, took the stand today in the murder trial of Lindsay Clancy, the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children — 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan — with exercise bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, and her attorney, Kevin Reddington, is running an insanity defense built on severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Reddington spent cross-examination taking Saathoff's testimony apart piece by piece. Saathoff admitted that on the 911 call, he never actually heard Clancy say she tried to kill herself — just grunts. That detail came from Patrick Clancy's account instead. Same story with the pills: Saathoff said he got the information about Clancy allegedly crushing medication straight from Patrick — nothing was ever tested to confirm it. Reddington then asked the obvious follow-up nobody had an answer for: how did the empty pill bottles end up in a drawer? Saathoff also conceded that a person in psychosis can generate false memories and misremember events entirely — which doesn't exactly help a case built on secondhand recollection. He testified he never reached out to Clancy's mother himself, relying only on the DA's office telling him she wouldn't talk.Prosecutors argue Clancy understood what she was doing despite the mental-health claims. After the killings, she allegedly attempted suicide by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Husband Patrick Clancy, out running errands at the time, has since relocated to Manhattan. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #CoraDawsonCallan #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #HiddenKillers #Breaking

Lindsay Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, is on trial for the murders of her three children — 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan — allegedly strangled with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, and her defense, led by attorney Kevin Reddington, is arguing she was in the grip of severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication when it happened.Today the prosecution's expert took the stand, and he didn't hedge. Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, testified that whatever voice Clancy said she heard never told her how to kill her children or where to do it — a detail the prosecution wants the jury sitting with. He described Clancy as gripped by a sense of "burdensomeness," convinced she couldn't return to work and that the family couldn't survive financially with her in it. He called her suicide attempt "very, very serious," pointing to the fact that she tried multiple methods as proof she meant it.Saathoff landed on a diagnosis — bipolar II — and said Clancy was suffering from a genuine mental disease at the time. But he drew a hard line after that: disease or not, he testified she understood right from wrong, and she was criminally responsible for what happened.That's the needle prosecutors are threading — real illness, real tragedy, but not legal insanity. After the killings, Clancy allegedly attempted suicide by jumping from a second-story window and is now paralyzed from the waist down. Husband Patrick Clancy was out running errands at the time and has since relocated to Manhattan. The trial continues in Plymouth Superior Court.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #TrueCrime #PlymouthCounty #BipolarII #InsanityDefense #KevinReddington #FBIProfiler #Breaking

Testimony has wrapped in the case against Massachusetts mom, Lindsay Clancy, and closing arguments are set for Thursday. The final witness was one of three rebuttal witnesses called by the prosecution, all of whom testified that Clancy was not suffering from postpartum psychosis at the time she strangled her three young children to death. The defense spent hours attempting to discredit the senior forensic psychologist for the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit, who told jurors Clancy was in control and aware of the illegality of her actions.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who's consulted with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, spent today explaining what he found when he sat down with Lindsay Clancy — the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children, 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan, with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, and her attorney Kevin Reddington is building an insanity defense around severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Saathoff isn't new to this territory — he told the court he's evaluated and treated five to seven women in the prison system who killed their children, and co-authored a paper on postpartum psychosis back in the 1980s. He drew a line for jurors between psychosis, which he called a symptom rather than a standalone illness, and the diagnoses that can produce it. He also walked through the difference between Serious Mental Illness — schizophrenia, bipolar I — and Any Mental Illness, the broader category that includes things like anxiety and PTSD.The heart of his testimony: after interviewing Clancy over Zoom for roughly 11 hours across May and June 2026, Saathoff said she described an external voice that surfaced while making dinner, right after hanging up with Patrick Clancy — telling her this was her last chance, that she had to kill the kids and then herself. He testified the voice stopped once she strangled Callan, her youngest, but had already gone quiet before she attempted suicide. He flagged that as unusual, along with inconsistencies between her account and what collateral witnesses told him — including the decision to order Three V takeout, and Clancy allegedly steering her husband toward a specific drugstore to keep him out of the house longer.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #GregorySaathoff #TrueCrime #InsanityDefense #PlymouthCounty #KevinReddington #CoraDawsonCallan #HiddenKillers

Eleven hours. That's how long forensic psychiatrist Dr. Gregory Saathoff, who's worked with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, spent interviewing Lindsay Clancy over Zoom across May and June 2026 — and today he told a Plymouth Superior Court jury what came out of it. Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, is accused of strangling her three children — Cora (5), Dawson (3), and Callan (7 months) — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. She faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and her attorney Kevin Reddington is arguing she was in the grip of severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication.Saathoff isn't a stranger to this specific horror — he testified he's diagnosed and treated five to seven women in the prison system who killed their children, and co-authored a 1980s paper on postpartum psychosis with four colleagues. He explained to jurors that psychosis itself isn't a disease but a symptom, and distinguished Serious Mental Illness like schizophrenia and bipolar I from the broader Any Mental Illness category that covers things like anxiety disorder and PTSD.Then came the substance: Saathoff testified Clancy described an external voice that started while she was making the kids' dinner, right after a call with Patrick Clancy — telling her this was her last chance, that she had to kill the children and then herself. The voice, he said, stopped after she strangled Callan, her youngest — though it had already gone silent before her own suicide attempt. He called it unusual that this was the first time she'd ever heard it. He also noted inconsistencies between Clancy's account and collateral witness statements, pointing specifically to the Three V takeout order and Clancy allegedly asking her husband to run an errand to a particular drugstore.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags #LindsayClancy #DuxburyTragedy #PostpartumPsychosis #GregorySaathoff #TrueCrime #InsanityDefense #PlymouthCounty #KevinReddington #CoraDawsonCallan #TrueCrimeToday

Eleven hours. That's how long forensic psychiatrist Dr. Gregory Saathoff, who's worked with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, spent interviewing Lindsay Clancy over Zoom across May and June 2026 — and today he told a Plymouth Superior Court jury what came out of it. Clancy, 34, of Duxbury, Massachusetts, is accused of strangling her three children — Cora (5), Dawson (3), and Callan (7 months) — with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. She faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation, has pleaded not guilty, and her attorney Kevin Reddington is arguing she was in the grip of severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication. Saathoff isn't a stranger to this specific horror — he testified he's diagnosed and treated five to seven women in the prison system who killed their children, and co-authored a 1980s paper on postpartum psychosis with four colleagues. He explained to jurors that psychosis itself isn't a

Dr. Gregory Saathoff, a forensic psychiatrist who's consulted with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, spent today explaining what he found when he sat down with Lindsay Clancy — the Duxbury, Massachusetts mother accused of strangling her three children, 5-year-old Cora, 3-year-old Dawson, and 7-month-old Callan, with exercise resistance bands inside the family's Summer Street home on January 24, 2023. Clancy faces three counts of murder and three counts of strangulation. She's pleaded not guilty, and her attorney Kevin Reddington is building an insanity defense around severe postpartum psychosis and psychiatric overmedication. Saathoff isn't new to this territory — he told the court he's evaluated and treated five to seven women in the prison system who killed their children, and co-authored a paper on postpartum psychosis back in the 1980s. He drew a line for jurors between psychosis, which he called a symptom rather than a standalone illness, and the diagnoses that can produce it. H

In this episode, Dr. Paige Wilcoxson joins us to discuss what people often get wrong about forensic psychology, what it takes and costs, and what the work helps us understand about ourselves, criminal behavior, and the world around us. Paige worked as a clinical and forensic psychologist in hospitals and prisons and as a graduate intern in the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, where she contributed to a project on serial homicides while working on her dissertation on threat assessment of ideologically motivated targeted shooters. Paige has also worked as a professor in the United States and the United Kingdom.Contact me at silverliningshandbookpod@gmail.comCheck out the Silver Linings Handbook website at:https://silverliningshandbook.com/Check out our Patreon to support the show at:https://www.patreon.com/thesilverliningshandbookJoin our Facebook Group at:https://www.facebook.com/groups/1361159947820623Visit the Silver Linings Handbook store to support the podcast at:https://www.bonfire.com/store/the-silver-linings-handbook-podcast-storeVisit The True Crime Times Substack at:https://truecrimemessenger.substack.comThe Silver Linings Handbook podcast is a part of the ART19 network. ART19 is a subsidiary of Wondery and Amazon Music.See the Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and the California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

True crime cases rarely end cleanly, and Rex Heuermann's is no exception. He's already serving three life sentences plus a hundred years for eight murders, but the detail true crime audiences can't stop talking about isn't about him. It's about the therapist who worked closely with his family. Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team break down reports that the therapist wasn't actually licensed, that she appeared on a Peacock special discussing details tied to her clients, and that she reportedly guided Heuermann's wife toward living in the remodeled bedroom connected to the murders. The show explains why none of this is expected to help Heuermann's legal team on appeal, according to the attorneys consulted on the case, and uses the moment to talk about a bigger pattern in true crime: people who get close to tragedy and decide to profit from it instead of walking away. There's also a harder conversation about why it took decades to catch Heuermann in the first place, and whether law enforcement bears some responsibility given how long his victims went unheard because of the work they did. The team draws comparisons to other high-profile cases involving marginalized victims, and talks through the real staffing and funding pressures that shape which cases get attention and which don't. The episode wraps with what's still unresolved: one victim still known only as Jane Doe, families who believe there are more victims Heuermann hasn't been charged with, and his agreement to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. Closure, the team agrees, is still a long way off for everyone this case touched. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #TrueCrimeToday #TrueCrimePodcast #LongIsland #SerialKiller #FBI #Ethics #ColdCase #TrueCrimeCommunity 

Rex Heuermann is already serving three life sentences plus a hundred years for eight murders, but the detail drawing the most attention has nothing to do with him directly. It's about the therapist who worked closely with his family. Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team break down how that therapist reportedly wasn't licensed, why she appeared on a Peacock special discussing case details tied to her clients, and why she reportedly guided Heuermann's wife toward living in the remodeled bedroom connected to the murders. The show walks through what it would take for that failure to actually help Heuermann's legal team on appeal, and why the attorneys consulted on the case say it doesn't hold up. There's also a conversation about why unlicensed professionals slip through the cracks in high-profile cases like this one, who's actually responsible for catching it, and what it says about the pull of notoriety when someone gets access to a story this big. The team draws comparisons to other cases where people close to a trial made questionable choices for attention or profit, and talks through the concept of the "loving critic," someone close enough to say, "you shouldn't be doing this," before it becomes a problem. The episode also revisits what's still unresolved in the larger case: one victim still known only as Jane Doe, families who believe there are more victims Heuermann hasn't been charged with, and his agreement to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. The team talks through why a case like this rarely delivers full closure, even after a guilty plea and a sentencing hearing. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers #TrueCrimePodcast #LongIsland #SerialKiller #FBI #Ethics #TrueCrimeCommunity #ColdCase 

Rex Heuermann is behind bars for eight murders, but Hidden Killers Live spent this episode on a question listeners keep sending in: what was really going on with the therapist working closely with his family? Robin Drake, Todd Michaels, and Lisa Hale take listener questions directly on this one, starting with reports that the therapist wasn't licensed, and that she appeared on a Peacock special discussing details tied to her clients. The hosts talk through whether that could open the door to an appeal, and share what the attorneys they've consulted on the case had to say about it. They also dig into a specific detail that's been bothering the team: reports that the therapist guided Heuermann's wife toward living in the remodeled bedroom connected to the murders. Listeners also push the hosts on a harder question sent in by a viewer named Karen, about whether law enforcement bears some responsibility for how long it took to catch Heuermann, given that his victims weren't taken seriously for years because of the work they did. The team draws parallels to other cases involving marginalized victims and talks through the real, systemic pressures investigators face when they're juggling far more cases than they can properly staff. The hosts close out the hour on what's still unresolved: one victim still known only as Jane Doe, families who believe more victims exist, and Heuermann's agreement to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit from inside Clinton Correctional. The team is honest about one thing: closure for every family affected by this case may never fully arrive. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillersLive #TrueCrimePodcast #ListenerQA #LongIsland #SerialKiller #FBI #Ethics #TrueCrimeCommunity 

This episode goes deeper into the detail from the Rex Heuermann case that's generated more questions than almost anything since his guilty plea: the therapist who worked closely with his family, and what she was reportedly hiding the entire time. Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to eight murders and is now serving three life sentences plus a hundred years at Clinton Correctional. But according to reporting, the therapist involved with his family wasn't licensed, appeared on a Peacock special discussing details tied to her clients, and reportedly guided his wife toward living in the remodeled bedroom connected to the murders. Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team walk through how something like this slips through, who was actually responsible for catching it, and whether it gives Heuermann's legal team any real grounds for appeal. According to the attorneys the show consulted, it does not. The episode also revisits the parts of this case that remain unresolved. One victim is still known only as Jane Doe. Families in the courtroom have said they believe there are more victims Heuermann hasn't been charged with, and he's reportedly agreed to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, though the team is skeptical he'll give up everything he knows without using it as leverage first. There's also a longer look at how Heuermann evaded detection for decades while working as an architect and living just miles from where he left his victims, and what that says about how long it can take to catch someone who understands exactly how to avoid attention. For everyone following this case from the beginning, this episode covers the full picture: what's confirmed, what's still being investigated, and what may never be fully resolved. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HeuermannCase #TrueCrimePodcast #LongIsland #SerialKiller #FBI #Ethics #HiddenKillers #ColdCase

 During a confidential session before the plea, Rex Heuermann brought up Karen Vergata — a woman he was never charged with killing. Her case was folded into the agreement. No separate prosecution. No public presentation of the evidence against him in her death. This look back examines a plea that wasn't just about admitting guilt — it was about controlling what came out and what stayed buried.The defense attorney called it a calculated pivot. Every pre-trial motion had failed. The DNA was admissible. The charges would be tried together. There was no path to acquittal. But the plea agreement reportedly bars further prosecution related to all eight named victims and includes a cooperation agreement with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit that, according to reporting, carries no enforceable consequences if Heuermann refuses or lies. For a man who spent decades organizing his crimes into checklists and phases, the plea reads less like surrender and more like one last piece of planning.The DA's office has acknowledged it is reviewing hundreds of cold cases across Suffolk County. Heuermann's attorney insists there are no additional victims. The families packed the courtroom — some weeping as he described how he met, strangled, and disposed of each woman. His ex-wife Asa spoke afterward, directing her thoughts to the victims' families. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting. The question that won't go away is whether a man who planned everything planned his exit too.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #KarenVergata #GuiltyPlea #CalculatedPivot #PleaDeal #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

His attorney said it out loud: pleading guilty to killing eight women was a "sense of relief" for Rex Heuermann. Not sorrow. Not a reckoning. Relief — as if the admission freed him from something he'd been carrying rather than confronting what he'd done. This look back, with retired FBI Behavioral Analysis Chief Robin Dreeke, reads that word choice for what it reveals about the person inside the plea.Dreeke breaks down the behavioral framework — what "relief" signals about how Heuermann relates to what he did, why the documented methodology matters more than the courtroom moment, and what the planning document tells behavioral analysts about a mind that organized murder into checklists with phases for before, during, and after. Prosecutors described one of the most deliberate patterns investigators say they've documented in a serial killing case — all of it stored on a computer in a house where his wife and children lived.Defense attorney and former prosecutor Eric Faddis adds the legal dimension: what the defense actually gained from the plea when the sentence was effectively the same either way, what the FBI cooperation requirement looks like in practice, and what the Behavioral Analysis Unit typically seeks from a convicted serial offender who has agreed to participate. The panel also addresses the wrongful death lawsuit filed against Asa Ellerup and Victoria Heuermann — the civil consequences now flowing from the criminal admission. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #RobinDreeke #EricFaddis #BehavioralAnalysis #GuiltyPlea #FBIBAU #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

A guilty plea provides certainty — conviction, sentence, finality on the charged cases. It does not provide the full public accounting a trial would have produced. This look back, with criminal defense attorney Bob Motta, examines what Rex Heuermann's plea resolves and what it leaves open.Heuermann pleaded guilty to three counts of first-degree murder and four counts of second-degree murder, and admitted to killing an eighth woman as part of the agreement. He confirmed strangulation as the cause of death for each victim. He is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. The plea eliminates the risk of acquittal but also eliminates the evidentiary presentation, cross-examination, and public testimony that the victims' families were preparing to hear.Motta examines the mechanics of the plea from both sides: what the defense gained by avoiding trial when every pre-trial motion had failed, and what the prosecution secured through the cooperation requirement with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He addresses the additional cases connected to the Gilgo Beach corridor — victims whose remains were found in the area but who were never charged to Heuermann — and whether the plea agreement and FBI cooperation may produce answers on those cases. The segment also considers the psychological dimension, with psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examining the dynamics inside the Heuermann family: an ex-wife who maintained she knew nothing and a daughter who publicly stated her belief in his guilt. We revisit where the matter stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #BobMotta #ShavaunScott #UnansweredQuestions #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven murders and admitted to an eighth. But the Gilgo Beach investigation extends beyond the charges he faced — additional sets of remains were found in the area over the years, and not all have been connected to Heuermann. This look back, with retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer, examines what the plea resolves and what it leaves open.The plea agreement requires Heuermann to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit — a provision that could produce information the courtroom never would have. Coffindaffer assesses what that cooperation may yield, whether it could lead to additional charges or connections, and how the BAU typically works with convicted offenders who have agreed to participate.The segment also examines the evidentiary foundation that drove the plea. DNA evidence matched through whole genome sequencing — admitted for the first time in a New York proceeding — connected Heuermann to multiple victims. Files recovered from his computer were characterized as a planning document. More than 350 electronic devices were seized. The defense challenged the DNA methodology, moved for separate trials, and lost on both. Heuermann's own daughter publicly stated she believed in his guilt. Coffindaffer reads the plea for what it tells investigators about the remaining open cases and whether the families connected to those cases have reason to expect additional answers. Heuermann is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the matter stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #UnsolvedCases #JenniferCoffindaffer #FBIBAU #GuiltyPlea #GilgoBeach #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

The forensic chain that ultimately produced Rex Heuermann's guilty plea began with a pizza crust recovered during surveillance — and ended with whole genome sequencing admitted in a New York courtroom for the first time. This look back, with defense attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis, examines the evidentiary architecture that made the case unwinnable and the two pre-trial rulings that the defense attorney himself identified as decisive.The prosecution held DNA linkage across multiple crime scenes, established through a technology never before admitted in the jurisdiction. It also held a deleted Word document recovered from Heuermann's hard drive, described as a planning document for the killings. More than 350 electronic devices were seized, with deleted files recovered from unallocated hard drive space. The defense challenged the DNA methodology through a Frye hearing but did not challenge the planning document. When the judge admitted the DNA and denied the motion for separate trials, the defense's path to acquittal effectively closed.Heuermann pleaded guilty on April 8, 2026, to three counts of first-degree murder and four counts of second-degree murder, and admitted to killing an eighth woman as part of the agreement. He confirmed strangulation as the cause of death for each victim. He is expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years, and has agreed to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. Faddis analyzes the plea structure, the sentencing exposure, and the legal significance of the FBI cooperation requirement. We revisit where the matter stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #DNAEvidence #WholeGenomeSequencing #EricFaddis #PleaDeal #GilgoBeach #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Prosecutors recovered a deleted Word document from Rex Heuermann's hard drive — described as a planning document for the killings. They matched his DNA to evidence found on and near multiple victims using whole genome sequencing, a technology admitted in a New York courtroom for the first time. And the original DNA connection came from a pizza crust recovered during surveillance. This look back, with defense attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis, examines the evidence that reportedly made the case unwinnable.Faddis explains what happens when a prosecution holds both a planning document and DNA linkage across multiple crime scenes. He walks through the forensic recovery process — more than 350 electronic devices seized, deleted files pulled from unallocated hard drive space — and where the gaps in digital forensics could have been attacked but weren't. He examines why the defense challenged the science but not the document, and what a Frye hearing actually looks like from the inside.The defense attorney himself acknowledged that two pre-trial rulings drove the plea: the admission of the DNA evidence and the denial of separate trials. Once both were decided, the path to acquittal effectively closed. Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven counts of murder — three first-degree, four second-degree — and admitted to killing an eighth woman as part of the agreement. He's expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years, and has agreed to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #DNAEvidence #PlanningDocument #EricFaddis #WholeGenomeSequencing #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers

People who waited decades for answers in the Gilgo Beach case got a plea hearing instead of a trial. Rex Heuermann stood in a Riverhead courtroom, answered the prosecutor's questions without emotion, and said one word when asked how he killed eight women: "Strangulation." Victims' families packed the gallery, weeping as the man who had maintained his innocence for nearly three years finally admitted to what he'd done. This look back, with defense attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis, examines what that plea provides — and what it takes away.A plea gives certainty. It gives a sentence — three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years expected. It eliminates the risk of acquittal. But it also eliminates the trial: the testimony, the cross-examination, the full public accounting of what happened to each woman. Some families wanted that. Some needed it. The plea agreement also requires Heuermann to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, which may produce answers the courtroom never would have.Faddis walks through what drove the plea from the defense side — the two pre-trial rulings that the defense attorney himself identified as the turning point: DNA evidence admitted, separate trials denied. He examines what leverage remained after those rulings and whether the defense could have gained anything more at sentencing. Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven murders and admitted to an eighth. His ex-wife told reporters her thoughts were with the victims' families. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #VictimsFamilies #EricFaddis #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers

One word. When prosecutors asked Rex Heuermann in a Riverhead courtroom how he killed eight women over seventeen years, he answered with a single word: strangulation. No emotion. No elaboration. Victims' families packed the gallery, weeping, while the man who had maintained his innocence for nearly three years matter-of-factly confirmed what investigators had spent decades trying to prove. This look back sits with that moment and everything that led to it.Heuermann pleaded guilty to seven counts of murder — three first-degree, four second-degree — and admitted to killing an eighth woman as part of the plea agreement. He said he used burner phones to lure each woman with the promise of money, strangled them in his Massapequa home, and left their remains along Ocean Parkway. His defense attorney told reporters the plea was driven by two pre-trial rulings: the admission of DNA evidence matched through whole genome sequencing — a first for a New York courtroom — and the denial of separate trials. Once both motions failed, the math changed.Defense attorney and former felony prosecutor Eric Faddis breaks down what drove the plea, what the evidence looked like from both sides, and the question families are still carrying: a plea gives certainty, but does it give closure? Some waited decades for a trial that will now never come. The agreement requires Heuermann to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit — which may eventually produce answers the courtroom didn't. He's expected to be sentenced to three consecutive life terms plus an additional hundred years. We revisit where the case stood at the time of our reporting.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #GuiltyPlea #EricFaddis #Strangulation #LongIslandSerialKiller #TrueCrime #GilgoBeach #TheGilgoBeachCase

Rex Heuermann received three consecutive life sentences plus one hundred additional years for the murders of eight women in Suffolk County, New York. Presiding Judge Timothy Mazzei characterized the defendant as “disgusting,” “despicable,” and “a coward.” The plea agreement requires Heuermann's full cooperation with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit.During a confidential proffer session preceding the plea, Heuermann volunteered a confession to the killing of Karen Vergata — a victim he had not been charged with killing. The plea agreement's jurisdictional scope is limited to Suffolk County. Heuermann's property records reflect ownership in Chester, South Carolina, and the Las Vegas metropolitan area — both jurisdictions that maintain capital punishment statutes.During sentencing, testimony described a telephone call placed by Heuermann to the sister of victim Melissa Barthelemy following the killing, during which the caller described what he had done. The presiding judge observed that the conviction addressed “eight that we know of.”A look back at the most compelling stories of the week.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #TrueCrimeToday #MelissaBarthelemy #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #FBI

Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to eight Gilgo Beach murders. Three consecutive life sentences. A hundred years stacked on top. No appeal. The case is closed — in New York. But the judge who sentenced him said “eight that we know of,” and South Carolina and Nevada both have death penalty statutes and both have properties connected to Heuermann where women disappeared.Before the sentence, Heuermann agreed to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He confessed to killing Karen Vergata — a woman he was never charged with killing — during a confidential proffer session. He brought her up himself. The plea deal covers Suffolk County. It does not immunize him from prosecution in other jurisdictions.During sentencing, Melissa Barthelemy's sister described a phone call Heuermann made after one of the murders — he called the victim's sister and described what he had done. The families got three life sentences. What they didn't get is confidence that the full scope of what Heuermann did has ever been documented.A look back at the most compelling stories of the week.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #HiddenKillers #MelissaBarthelemy #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #FBI

Melissa Barthelemy's sister picked up a ringing phone. The voice on the other end was Rex Heuermann's. He had just killed Melissa. And he described what he had done. That detail came out during sentencing — the same proceeding where a judge called Heuermann a disgusting coward and ordered him removed while families chanted ogre.Three consecutive life sentences. A hundred years. No appeal. The sentence looks like an ending. It isn't. Heuermann confessed to killing Karen Vergata during a confidential proffer session — a woman he was never charged with killing. He brought her up himself. He volunteered information to get credit. And as part of his plea deal, he agreed to sit with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit and describe everything.But the plea covers New York. Heuermann owned properties in South Carolina and Nevada — both death penalty states — where women disappeared. The judge said “eight that we know of.” The question is whether the cooperation that earned Heuermann his plea was designed to close the case or to prevent anyone from opening the ones that might carry a needle.A look back at the most compelling stories of the week.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #LISK #HiddenKillersLive #MelissaBarthelemy #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #TrueCrime #FBI

Eight women. That's what Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to. Seventeen years of killing. But former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke has said the likelihood the number stopped at eight is “limited to none.” If Dreeke is right, there are families out there who don't know the Gilgo Beach case has anything to do with them — people whose loved ones disappeared and were never connected to Heuermann.The FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit interview, built into the plea deal, may be the only way those names surface. The same interview program confirmed Samuel Little as the most prolific serial killer in U.S. history after he confessed to ninety-three murders in a dozen states. Many of Little's victims had been written off — deaths ruled overdoses or accidents, cases closed without answers. The interview reopened every one of them.Tony digs into why the FBI has been interviewing convicted killers since the 1970s and what the program has actually produced: a national crime database, a behavioral classification system used worldwide, and the recovery of remains that families had waited decades to bury. Gary Ridgway's six months of FBI interviews led investigators to four women whose families had never been able to lay them to rest.The criticism of the Heuermann interview is understandable — it gives a convicted killer attention. The FBI's fifty-year track record says the attention is a tool, not a reward. What it produces is the point. And what it might produce here is the answer to whether eight is the real number or just the floor.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #TrueCrimeToday #GilgoBeachKiller #FBI #LISK #SerialKiller #ColdCase #SamuelLittle #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann agreed to sit down with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He'll walk into that room thinking he controls the conversation — that he gets to decide what to share, what to hold back, and how to shape the story. Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke says Heuermann will “dribble and draft” the information, using it as currency. That's how these interviews always go.Except the FBI has something they've almost never had before. Prosecutors recovered a planning document from Heuermann's hard drive — a Word file he created, updated over years, and thought he'd erased. According to court filings, it contained eighty-seven specific details about how he prepared, killed, and disposed of evidence. His own written methodology, recovered from his own basement. When Heuermann talks, the FBI won't just be listening. They'll be checking.Tony traces the fifty-year history of the FBI's killer interview program from its origins with agents Ressler and Douglas through the thirty-six foundational interviews that built modern criminal profiling. He walks through the cases where cooperation produced results the evidence alone never could — Gary Ridgway leading investigators to four bodies, Samuel Little's ninety-three confessions solving cold cases across the country. The program works not because killers cooperate willingly, but because the FBI has spent decades learning how to turn their narcissism into something useful.Heuermann is the first digital-era serial killer the BAU has studied. The question isn't whether he'll try to lie. It's whether his own notes will let him.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #HiddenKillers #GilgoBeachKiller #FBI #BehavioralAnalysis #LISK #SamuelLittle #ColdCase #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann is sentenced. Life without parole. Eight murders. It's over. So why would he agree to sit in a room with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit and walk them through what he did?Former FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke says the answer is simple: information is the only currency Heuermann has left. He'll use it to stay relevant, to feel important, to maintain some sense of control from inside a cell. He'll dribble out details and try to manage the flow. The FBI has known this dynamic since Edmund Kemper told Robert Ressler in a California prison that he could rip his head off before the guards arrived. They've been navigating killer ego for fifty years.The program started in the 1970s when Ressler and John Douglas interviewed thirty-six convicted killers to build the science of criminal profiling. It produced ViCAP, the national violent crime database. It produced the interview techniques that got Samuel Little to confess to ninety-three murders. It produced the six-month cooperation that led Gary Ridgway to the remains of four women nobody had been able to find.Now the FBI wants Heuermann. Not for the eight he admitted to — that's settled. They want to know if there are more. They want to study the first digital-era serial killer who used burner phones, fifty-eight hard drives, and a written planning document to operate for nearly two decades. And they want to check what he says against the document he thought he'd deleted.Heuermann thinks the interview is his stage. The FBI has a different use for it.LinksJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodDisclaimerThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.Hashtags#GilgoBeach #RexHeuermann #GilgoBeachKiller #FBI #BehavioralAnalysis #LISK #SamuelLittle #GaryRidgway #ColdCase #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann received consecutive life sentences for the murders of eight women he strangled over a seventeen-year span. The judge called him disgusting. Called him a coward. Told officers to get him out of the courtroom. Families cheered and chanted as he was led away.But one piece of testimony from that sentencing tells you more about who Heuermann is than the sentence itself. A family member of one of the victims described a phone call Heuermann made after the murder. It was not a threat. It was not a warning. It was something else entirely — and it reveals the kind of person the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit is about to spend hours sitting across from.Heuermann agreed to full cooperation with the BAU as part of his plea deal. He is required to be truthful and complete. He will describe how he chose them, how he killed them, how he hid in plain sight for nearly two decades. And former FBI agents believe the real number of victims goes well beyond eight. Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, walks through what that phone call tells investigators and what the BAU sessions may uncover.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #JudgeMazzei #FBI #BAU #SerialKiller #MelissaBarthelemy #Sentencing #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann was sentenced to consecutive life terms after pleading guilty to murdering eight women over seventeen years. The judge became emotional, called Heuermann a coward, and ordered him removed from the courtroom as families cheered and chanted. Built into his plea deal: full cooperation with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. What a victim's family member told the court about a phone call Heuermann made after one of the killings is something investigators will be studying closely.Anna Kepner's accused killer, sixteen-year-old Timothy Hudson, is now behind bars after a federal judge reversed his own pretrial release decision. The judge described the evidence in language that is extraordinary for a pretrial ruling and cited sealed forensic evidence filed days before. Anna had reportedly told her parents she was afraid of her stepbrother before they ever stepped on the Carnival Horizon. She told them he had knives.Nancy Guthrie is eighty-four years old with no known cryptocurrency. A two-billion-dollar cybersecurity firm called her alleged abduction a wrench attack by proxy. If CertiK's classification is right, whoever showed up at Nancy's door that night may have been looking for someone else in the neighborhood entirely. One full conversation. Three cases. Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AnnaKepner #NancyGuthrie #GilgoBeach #TimothyHudson #CertiK #FBI #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

Rex Heuermann strangled eight women over seventeen years. A judge handed him consecutive life sentences and told officers to get him out of the courtroom. The families of those women stood in that courtroom and addressed the man who destroyed their lives. One of them told the court about a phone call Heuermann made after the murder — a call that was not a confession.That phone call is at the center of this conversation. It tells you something about Heuermann that goes beyond the killings themselves. It tells you what kind of person the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit is about to sit across from when he begins the cooperation sessions required by his plea deal. He will be required to be truthful, accurate, and complete about everything he did. He will relive every detail. And every expert who has studied this case believes the FBI already knows something the public hasn't caught up to yet: eight is probably not the real number.Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, walks through the sentencing, the BAU cooperation, and what Heuermann's post-crime behavior reveals about what else he may have done.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #JudgeMazzei #FBI #BAU #SerialKiller #MelissaBarthelemy #Sentencing #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Rex Heuermann's sentencing closed one chapter and opened another. The judge handed down consecutive life terms, called him a coward, and ordered him removed from the courtroom. Heuermann's plea deal requires full cooperation with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. He will describe everything — how he chose them, how he killed them, how he hid it. Former agents believe eight is not the final number. And testimony from one of the victims' families revealed something about Heuermann's behavior after the murders that the BAU will study closely.Anna Kepner's accused killer is now in federal custody. Timothy Hudson walked free for four months before the same judge reversed his own release. The detention order described the evidence in terms rarely seen in a pretrial ruling. Sealed forensic evidence was filed days before. And Anna had reportedly warned her family about Hudson before they boarded the Carnival Horizon together.Nancy Guthrie's alleged abduction was classified as a crypto crime by a two-billion-dollar cybersecurity firm. She has no known crypto holdings. The question at the center of this investigation: did whoever took her have the wrong address? Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, walks through all three.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #AnnaKepner #NancyGuthrie #GilgoBeach #TimothyHudson #CertiK #FBI #JenniferCoffindaffer #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime

Melissa Barthelemy was twenty-four years old when Rex Heuermann strangled her to death. Her remains were found near Gilgo Beach on Long Island. And according to testimony delivered at Heuermann's sentencing, what Heuermann did after the murder may tell investigators more about him than the killing itself.Heuermann was sentenced to consecutive life terms. Judge Mazzei asked if he was even a little bit sorry. Called him a coward. Ordered him removed from the courtroom. The families chanted ogre as he was taken out. But before the sentence, Heuermann agreed to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit as part of his plea deal — a deal that requires him to describe everything he did with total honesty.The hard truth is that Heuermann will enjoy every minute of those sessions. The attention. The expertise directed at understanding him. The FBI knows this. They are doing it anyway because fifty years of sitting across from killers has produced results the public rarely sees. Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, explains what the BAU expects to learn and why the families may not have heard the last of Rex Heuermann's crimes.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #MelissaBarthelemy #FBI #BAU #SerialKiller #JudgeMazzei #Sentencing #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

Amanda Funderburg stood in a Suffolk County courtroom and addressed the man who killed her sister, Melissa Barthelemy. She told the court about a phone call. A call Heuermann made to her after the murder. What he said on that call is not something you forget.Heuermann was sentenced to consecutive life terms. Judge Mazzei was visibly emotional. He asked Heuermann if he was sorry. Called him a disgusting, despicable small man and a coward. Ordered him removed from the courtroom as the families chanted ogre.That sentencing closed one chapter. The cooperation agreement opens another. Heuermann will sit with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit and describe everything — how he chose his victims, how he killed them, how he maintained a Manhattan career and a suburban family for seventeen years while the bodies accumulated near Gilgo Beach. His defense attorney says he is required to be truthful, accurate, and complete. Former FBI agents say the chances he stopped at eight are limited to none. Jennifer Coffindaffer, contributor to Hidden Killers, explains why Funderburg's testimony matters to the BAU and what the cooperation sessions may reveal beyond the eight confirmed victims.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #AmandaFunderburg #MelissaBarthelemy #FBI #BAU #JudgeMazzei #Sentencing #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

In court, Rex Heuermann said strangulation in the same tone every time the DA asked how each woman died. He answered yes and no and eight and nothing else. He did not turn around. He did not acknowledge the families. His attorney described the plea as bringing a huge sense of relief.He ran a double life for seventeen years — architecture firm by day, murders timed to the family vacation calendar. People around him called him respectful and normal. Every woman he killed was someone whose absence the world was unlikely to track.This is a live conversation. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott and Tony Brueski are talking through the clinical reality of compartmentalization at this scale — how someone maintains that partition, whether the normal suburban version of Heuermann was real or performance, and what the FBI should expect now that he has agreed to cooperate with their Behavioral Analysis Unit. Bring your questions.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #HiddenKillers #GilgoBeachKiller #ShavaunScott #TrueCrime #LiveDiscussion #SerialKillerPsychology #Compartmentalization #DoubleLife

A Long Island architect and family man pleads guilty to killing multiple women — finally putting a name and a face to a case that haunted New York for more than a decade.  But as investigators unearth Rex Heuermann's private "how to get away with murder" playbook and the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit prepares to sit across from him, the real chill comes from how carefully he studied the people hunting him, and how many chances those closest to him had to see who he really was before the bodies were ever found. Subscribe to The Binge today to get this episode ad-free and unlock 60+ true crime series instantly. Subscribe directly at GetTheBinge.com — or if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, tap "Subscribe" at the top of the show page. Listen to CUT, COLOR, KILL discussed in this episode, hosted by Jonathan.  Follow Crime Scene on socials!  Instagram: @thebingecrimescene | @thebingetruecrime  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebingecrimescene Crime Scene is hosted by Jonathan Hirsch and Cooper Moll.  Instagram: @thisisjonathanhirsch | @bycoopermoll Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

On June 17th, Rex Heuermann was sentenced to life in prison without parole — but the verdict only deepens the question at the heart of this case. What kind of man keeps a private "how to get away with murder" playbook and still convinces his wife, his neighbors, and his coworkers he's just an ordinary Long Island dad? In this Crime Scene bonus, forensic psychologist Dr. Joni Johnston joins us to unpack the psychology of the Gilgo Beach killer: how Rex Heuermann compartmentalized two lives for more than a decade, why the people closest to him never saw it, and what the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit will be looking for when they finally sit across from him. Subscribe to The Binge today to get this episode ad-free and unlock 60+ true crime series instantly. Subscribe directly at GetTheBinge.com — or if you're listening on Apple Podcasts, tap "Subscribe" at the top of the show page. Follow Crime Scene on socials!  Instagram: @thebingecrimescene | @thebingetruecrime  TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@thebingecrimescene Crime Scene is hosted by Jonathan Hirsch and Cooper Moll.  Instagram: @thisisjonathanhirsch | @bycoopermoll Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Retired FBI agent and criminal profiler Candice DeLong examines the stunning guilty plea of Rex Heuermann, the Long Island architect known as the Gilgo Beach Serial Killer. For more than fifteen years, the murders of at least eight women dumped along a desolate stretch of Ocean Parkway went unsolved — one of the most haunting cold cases in American history. Candice walks through the investigative breakthroughs that finally brought Heuermann to justice, then is joined by legal analyst Josh Ritter to break down the terms of his plea agreement, including an unprecedented requirement to cooperate with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit.Audible subscribers can listen to all episodes of Killer Psyche ad-free right now. Join Audible today by downloading the Audible app.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rex Heuermann's guilty plea resolved eight murder charges in one proceeding. But the structure of the deal itself raises questions that go beyond the confession. During a confidential session with prosecutors, Heuermann raised the name Karen Vergata — a woman he was never charged with killing. Her case was absorbed into the plea agreement, effectively closing it without a separate prosecution or public evidentiary hearing. The cooperation agreement with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit reportedly includes no mechanism to compel truthful participation or penalize refusal.This week's True Crime Today review revisits the most significant Gilgo Beach developments — the legal architecture of the plea, the evidentiary rulings that forced it, and the psychological dimensions revealed through documentary footage.Every defense motion had been denied. Whole genome sequencing — the forensic technique that matched Heuermann's DNA to evidence recovered from victim remains — was ruled admissible. The court ordered all charges tried in a single proceeding, eliminating any possibility of severance. Heuermann's defense had exhausted its options. The plea, framed by his attorney as a calculated pivot, followed a thousand days of maintained innocence.The Peacock documentary captured the private aftermath. Asa Ellerup, Heuermann's ex-wife, heard him describe the killings during a jailhouse visit — including confirmation of dismemberment conducted inside their shared residence. His daughter Victoria confronted him directly about whether the victims registered as human to him. He said they did not. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott analyzes the family dynamics under that level of sustained psychological exposure — the denial structures, the trauma responses, and what Heuermann's clinical detachment during these conversations reveals about how he processed decades of violence.The DA's office has acknowledged reviewing hundreds of cold cases across Suffolk County. Sentencing is pending. Whether this plea represents justice or an engineered exit remains the central unresolved question.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #KarenVergata #SuffolkCounty #LISK #GuiltyPlea #SerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers

The guilty plea made headlines. What happened in the room before it didn't. Rex Heuermann didn't just confess — he negotiated. He brought up Karen Vergata, a woman prosecutors never charged him with killing, and got her case folded into a deal that blocks any future prosecution. The cooperation agreement with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit reportedly has no enforcement mechanism if he refuses to participate or provides false information.This week's Hidden Killers review pulls together the most critical conversations from the Gilgo Beach case — from the legal maneuvering behind the plea to the psychological fallout captured on camera.Every avenue Heuermann's defense team tried to open had been shut down. Whole genome sequencing was admitted. The charges would be tried together. With nothing left to fight, Heuermann's team shifted from defense to damage control — and the deal they struck raises serious questions about what stays sealed and who benefits from the silence.Then the documentary footage surfaced. His ex-wife Asa Ellerup confronted him in a jailhouse visit and heard him confirm dismemberment — inside the home they shared, in a basement room she was never allowed to enter. She moved back into the house afterward. His daughter Victoria asked whether he ever thought about his children during the killings. He told her no. Asked whether he saw the victims as human, he said he didn't. Victoria chose forgiveness — not because the answer was acceptable, but because she said the alternative was her own destruction.Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott dissects every layer — Asa's psychological framework for surviving alongside a predator without acknowledging it, Victoria's grief for a father who is still alive but fundamentally gone, and Heuermann's own clinical detachment. He described a timed kill cycle to investigators and told a therapist he doesn't recognize himself in the evidence photos. The families of the victims sat in the courtroom and listened to every word. The question now isn't just what Heuermann admitted — it's what the deal ensured he'd never have to.Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePodThis publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.#RexHeuermann #GilgoBeach #GilgoBeachKiller #KarenVergata #LISK #SuffolkCounty #SerialKiller #TrueCrime #HiddenKillers #WeekInReview

In this episode, ⁠Crawlspace Media⁠'s Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with filmmaker and podcaster ⁠Joshua Zeman⁠ about the convicted Long Island serial killer, Rex Heuermann. Josh has been on the trail of LISK since before his 2016 documentary series called ⁠The Killing Season⁠, and in this conversation, we discuss Rex's evolving process, him agreeing to work with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, other possibly connected murders and more. This episode was previously published on Missing April 23rd, 2026. Joshua is responsible for ⁠Cropsey⁠, ⁠Killer Legends⁠, ⁠The Killing Season⁠, ⁠Murder Mountain⁠, ⁠Sons of Sam⁠, ⁠Checkpoint Zoo⁠, to name a few. He also is behind the podcast Sinister and ⁠Monster: Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer⁠. Check out everything Joshua has going on and listen to Sinister: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.sinisterpodcast.com/⁠⁠⁠. ⁠Listen to Monster: Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer:⁠ ⁠https://monster-podcast.com/lisk/⁠. Follow Joshua: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@sinisterwithjoshzeman⁠⁠. ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/josh.zeman⁠. ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@SinisterPodcastJZ⁠. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Mint Mobile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mintmobile.com/missing⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at⁠⁠ ⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠⁠. Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. TT:⁠⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. FB:⁠⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠⁠. X:⁠⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠⁠ Spotify:⁠⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠⁠. Apple:⁠⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this new episode, Crawlspace Media's Tim Pilleri and Lance Reenstierna speak with filmmaker and podcaster Joshua Zeman about the convicted Long Island serial killer, Rex Heuermann. Josh has been on the trail of LISK since before his 2016 documentary series called The Killing Season, and in this conversation, we discuss Rex's evolving process, him agreeing to work with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit, other possibly connected murders and more. Joshua is responsible for Cropsey, Killer Legends, The Killing Season, Murder Mountain, Sons of Sam, Checkpoint Zoo, to name a few. He also is behind the podcast Sinister and Monster: Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer. Check out everything Joshua has going on and listen to Sinister: ⁠⁠https://www.sinisterpodcast.com/⁠⁠. ⁠Listen to Monster: Hunting the Long Island Serial Killer:⁠ https://monster-podcast.com/lisk/. Follow Joshua: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@sinisterwithjoshzeman⁠. ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/josh.zeman. ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@SinisterPodcastJZ. Check out Quince: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://quince.com/MISSING⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out Mint Mobile: ⁠⁠⁠⁠mintmobile.com/missing⁠⁠⁠⁠. Main podcast theme by Kevin Macleod. Check out his work at⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://incompetech.com/⁠⁠⁠. Additional music by David Williams. See his work at⁠ ⁠⁠http://williamsflutes.com⁠⁠⁠. Follow Missing: IG: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/MissingCSM/⁠. Youtube:⁠⁠ https://www.youtube.com/missingcsm⁠⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/MissingCSM⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/MissingCSM⁠. Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/0yRXkJrZC85otfT7oXMcri⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/missing/id1006974447⁠. Follow Crawlspace: IG:⁠ https://www.instagram.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. TT:⁠ https://www.tiktok.com/@crawlspacepodcast⁠. FB:⁠ https://www.facebook.com/Crawlspacepodcast⁠. X:⁠ https://twitter.com/crawlspacepod.⁠ Spotify:⁠ https://open.spotify.com/show/7iSnqnCf27NODdz0pJ1GvJ⁠. Youtube:⁠ https://www.youtube.com/crawlspace⁠. Apple:⁠ https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/crawlspace-true-crime-mysteries/id1187326340⁠. Check out our entire network at⁠ http://crawlspace-media.com/⁠. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Rex Heuermann has pleaded guilty — and now the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit may get the chance to study the mind of the Gilgo Beach killer up close. In this episode of Police Off the Cuff, retired NYPD Sgt. Bill Cannon is joined by retired FBI profiler Jim Clemente to break down what the BAU will look for next: offender traits, organized behavior, modus operandi, psycho-sexual motivations, and whether Heuermann could be pushed to admit to other murders. This is a true-crime behavioral analysis of Rex Heuermann, the Gilgo Beach murders, and the next major phase of the investigation. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Rex Heuermann Guilty — BAU Next: Will He Admit to More Murders? In this episode of Police Off the Cuff, retired NYPD Sgt. Bill Cannon is joined by retired FBI profiler Jim Clemente, former member of the Behavioral Analysis Unit, to break down Rex Heuermann's guilty plea and what happens next. With Heuermann now expected to be studied by the BAU, we examine how profilers analyze an organized offender, his modus operandi, psycho-sexual motivations, offender traits, and the possibility that investigators may push for admissions to other crimes. This is a true-crime detective breakdown of one of the biggest developments in the Gilgo Beach murders, with real law-enforcement and behavioral analysis insight. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

62-year-old architect, father and former husband Rex Heuermann pleaded guilty to a series of murders that plagued Long Island for 2 decades. As victims’ families gathered in court, Heuermann detailed how he strangled and dismembered the women while hiding in plan sight, posing as a normal suburban Dad. As part of his plea deal, the Gilgo Beach serial killer will be interviewed by the FBI’s Behavioral Analysis Unit to try and understand what drove him to become the monster he is today.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.