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Isaiah 43:1-7 Psalm 29 Acts 8:14-17 Luke 3:15-17, 21-22 1. What stands in the way of having a deeper faith? On August 5, 1949 a crew of fifteen elite US Forest Service smokejumpers, or airborne firefighters, stepped out of their plane above a remote wildfire in Montana. Within an hour all but three of them were dead or mortally burned. They were caught by flames as they ran uphill through dried grass on a steep slope trying to reach a higher ridge. [1] The University of Chicago English Literature professor Norman Maclean (1902-1990), who himself had experience as a fire fighter, happened to be in town and took the time to visit the fire even as it still burned. The men who perished were mostly in their early twenties and their stories haunted Maclean until he retired from teaching decades later and began writing about them. He begins his book Young Men and Fire saying, “The problem of self-identity is not just a problem for the young. It is a problem for all the time. Perhaps the problem. It should haunt old age, and when it no longer does it should tell you that you are dead.” [2] Maclean found his self-identity wrapped up in the tragedy. And so he studied what happened intently: the physics of fire (how a blowup happens and burns uphill), the geology, weather, terrain and botany of that particular river valley and hillside, safety changes that the tragedy inspired at the Forest Service. Maclean notes that from the arrangement of the bodies rescue crews observed that most men had fallen and gotten up again. He writes, “at the very end beyond thought and beyond fear and beyond even self-compassion and divine bewilderment there remains some firm intention to continue doing forever... what we last hoped to do on earth.” His last paragraph says, “I, an old man, have written this fire report… it was important to me, as an exercise for old age, to enlarge my knowledge and spirit so I could accompany young men, whose lives I might have lived, on their way to death. I have climbed where they have climbed, and in my time I have fought fire and inquired into its nature… I have lived to get a better understanding of myself and those close to me, many of them now dead… I have often found myself thinking of my wife on her brave and lonely way to death.” 2. What stands in the way of having a deeper faith? This week in a group my friend Chris directed this question to me. At first I didn't say anything and let the conversation flow. I had in mind the writer Mary Karr's observation that, “Talking about spiritual activity to a secular audience is like doing card tricks on the radio.” [3] But then another friend asked me the same question. So let me try to answer here. I do not think that the major obstacle to deeper faith has much to do with belief. This is made more complicated because in our time of relative spiritual naiveté many people do not seem aware that we have to learn an adult faith. Paul writes, “When I was a child, I spoke like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child; when I became an adult, I put an end to childish ways” (1 Cor. 13:11). Another factor is that many modern people feel that they don't have enough time to come to church or pray. Their work life and other obligations squeeze everything else out. Twenty years ago Robert Putnam pointed out that instead of joining bowling leagues as they once did many people are bowling alone. In other words, people are more isolated and not joining groups and civic organizations in the way they once did. Some people may have an idea of who they might find in a church and simply do not want to be around that kind of person. I can imagine someone with integrity being afraid that faith creates an obligation to take care of other people. And it does. Despair is also a barrier. Some look at pain in the world and think God is at fault or that this proves there is no God. They have never been introduced to a more subtle form of faith in a God who suffers along with us in the person of Jesus. I did not say any of this in our conversation. Instead I offered a short response and said: A profound barrier to having faith in our time is rapidly accelerating capitalism. This worldview has become so pervasive today that we are living examples of David Foster Wallace's joke. You remember the old fish swims past two younger ones and says, “How's the water?” The younger fishes swims on for a bit. Then one turns to the other and says, “What the heck is water?” [4] What I mean by capitalism is an expanding set of values that colonizes our inner life and every domain of our daily experience. This includes a sense that the world is inert or dead, that everything can be measured objectively and valued. It makes our interactions into transactions. It turns gifts into investments and makes non-work activities seem somehow wasteful. This kind of consciousness leads us to see ourselves as insatiable consumers who can never get enough and others as means to our own ends. It erodes a sense of gratitude and implies that good things have all been earned. It makes radically accelerating inequality seem inevitable even when this destabilizes democracy (and all other forms of community). Above all in our case capitalism is leading us to an extreme individualism that does radical damage to human dignity. In response, my friends talked about how great life is in the twenty-first century and how it was not that long ago when half of Americans did not have access to warm showers. And I told them about how a society's income inequality is directly correlated with mental illness, and about the misery I encountered that day going twice through the Tenderloin among people suffering so gravely from mental illness and addiction. I have a friend who lives in a small city apartment. Yes, she has a hot shower. But she wants me to call her every week because she is so alone that no one will even notice when she dies. Climate scientist Gus Speth writes, “I used to think the top global environmental problems were biodiversity loss, ecosystem collapse, and climate change. I thought with 30 years of good science we could address those problems, but I was wrong. The top environmental problems are selfishness, greed, and apathy – and to deal with these we need a spiritual and cultural transformation and we scientists don't know how to do that.” [5] 3. My friends should have asked a more interesting question, “what can remove these obstacles to faith?” The English translation of today's gospel states that those going out to see John the Baptist were “filled with expectation.” A better translation of this (prosdokōntos) would be foreboding or dread. That was not the world of what some would prematurely call late stage capitalism, but the shocking violence of those times would not be entirely unfamiliar to us. Did you wonder about the verses that were omitted in our reading (Luke 3:18-20)? They interject a short reference to King Herod who later killed John in prison. And yet Luke writes, “John proclaimed the good news to the people” (Lk. 3). What is this good news? First, even though our inner lives seem thoroughly colonized by a world picture that seems to be leading to the death of our humanity and our planet, we can be changed. The word Luke uses is metanoia and means a change of mind or heart which we call repentance. Second, don't be confused and think that there are some people who are wheat and others who are chaff. Just as a single grain has both parts, each of us do too. And through prayer we have Jesus' help as we try to separate what is good in our life so that it will thrive and minimize the prejudices and destructive thoughts that distort us. Finally, let me assure you that deeper than all our thoughts there is a place within us where we can meet God. That voice that speaks quietly to Jesus says the same thing to us too. If you listen this morning you will hear in your own way God saying, “You are my child, my beloved, with you I am well pleased” (Lk. 3). My friends what stands in the way of having a deeper faith – not just in general, but for you? The world around us is burning. 153,000 LA County residents are under mandatory evacuation orders and an area greater than the size of San Francisco has been reduced to ash. Our governor and next president are publicly feuding. [6] Many of us feel a sense of foreboding as if we were trapped halfway up a hill only just above the rising flames. Through a lifetime of studying their story Norman Maclean saw similarities between those young men each one knowing he was alone at his death and Jesus. In Young Men and Fire Maclean writes about the group's foreman Wagner Dodge who lit a safety fire and tried to convince his men to follow him into the protection of the already charred land. Strangely enough going toward and more deeply into the fire was ultimately what saved his life. Perhaps this is true for us also. In our time we have fought fire and inquired into its nature. Each of us is trying to reach a higher ridge. After we have lived for a better understanding of ourselves and those close to us we each arrive at the same place. And at the very end beyond thought and beyond fear and beyond even self-compassion that is where we meet the one who has climbed everywhere we have climbed, the one who is closer to us than we are to ourselves. And we shall hear the voice of the One who loves us. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mann_Gulch_fire [2] Norman Maclean, Young Men and Fire (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1992) xiii, 300-1. [3] Matthew Boulton, “Theologian's Almanac,” SALT, 12 January 2025. https://www.saltproject.org/progressive-christian-blog/2025/1/7/theologians-almanac-for-week-of-january-12-2025 [4] David Foster Wallace, “This Is Water,” Commencement Speech, Kenyon College, 2005. https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/ [5] Cited in a letter from Rev'd Dr. Vincent Pizzuto sent on Friday 10 January 2025. [6] https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/01/11/us/los-angeles-fires-california
When a fire broke out in Helena National Forest, the newly established Smokejumpers crew was sent to manage it. The fire proved to be larger and more dangerous than anyone could have predicted and when the winds changed, these men found themselves fighting for their lives. Many lives were lost and to this day it remains as one of the worst tragedies in wildland history. We love our National Parks and we know you do too but when you're out there, remember to enjoy the view but watch your back. Please take a moment to rate and subscribe from wherever you're listening to NPAD! Become part of our Outsider family on Patreon or Apple Subscriptions to gain access to ad-free episodes, bonus content, and more. Follow our socials Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. To share a Trail Tale, suggest a story, access merch, and browse our book recommendations - head over to our website. Thank you so much to our partners, check them out! AG1: Try AG1 and get a FREE bottle of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at drinkAG1.com/NPAD. BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off. 3 Day Blinds: For their buy 1 get 1 50% off deal, head to 3DayBlinds.com/NPAD. Two Girls One Ghost: Listen wherever you find your favorite podcasts. Resources: Book: Young men and fire by Norman Maclean. Mann Gulch | US Forest Service
9:00 - Mann Gulch Fire Remembered after 75 Years - John Jackson on Kamala's Pick Tim Walz full 2537 Tue, 06 Aug 2024 16:01:00 +0000 HmVb3d2YivqHGQLA7c0HluPkkh447rxR Montana Talks with Aaron Flint 9:00 - Mann Gulch Fire Remembered after 75 Years - John Jackson on Kamala's Pick Tim Walz Montana Talks with Aaron Flint ON DEMAND 2020
August 5th marks the 75th anniversary of the Mann Gulch fire, which shifted the way fires are fought to this day. The Montana Discovery Foundation will host a series of events in remembrance.
9:00 - Rep. Ryan Zinke on the Leadership Coming to the State - the Mann Gulch Memorial full 2538 Thu, 01 Aug 2024 16:01:00 +0000 Fy4cze1y7kBz3qwr0EXq301WPNjiPDNm Montana Talks with Aaron Flint 9:00 - Rep. Ryan Zinke on the Leadership Coming to the State - the Mann Gulch Memorial Montana Talks with Aaron Flint ON DEMAND 2020
Recognize firefighters from the infamous Mann Gulch fire, enjoy a short reprieve in air quality before the next round of smoke, and celebrate Montana's home grown Olympic medalist.
In Episode 212 of Anecdotally Speaking, delve into the gripping tale of the Mann Gulch fire, a story that will challenge your views on underlying … The post 212 – Fight Fire with Fire – Wagner Dodge appeared first on Anecdote.
This year marks the 75th anniversary of the Mann Gulch Fire tragedy. August 5th 1949 12 Smokejumpers and 1 Fire Guard lost their lives fighting the Mann Gulch Fire. Chiara Cipriano & Rory Glueckert from the Helena-Lewis and Clark National Forest share the story of the Mann Gulch Fire tragedy as well as the Memorial events being held to honor the great young men we lost to the Mann Gulch Fire. For more information go to http://www.montanadiscoveryfoundation.org. Thanks for watching please like, share, and subscribe.
Last week I shared the story of the Smokejumpers, and the horrible tragedy that happened in Mann Gulch, Montana in 1949. But as in all tragedies and all business setbacks, there's a lesson that we can learn and take from this. In this lesson, the foreman of the Smokejumpers--Wagg Dodge-- did something that seemed counterintuitive and didn't make sense to his team: he lit an escape fire. And this brave act ultimately saved his life, and it shares profound lessons for businesses facing their own kind of wildfires.Connect with Chris Cooper:Website - https://businessisgood.com/
In the annals of firefighting history, few events are as heartbreaking and instructive as the tragedy of the Smoke Jumpers in Mann Gulch. This group of elite wildland firefighters met their fate in a devastating fire in 1949, which claimed the lives of 13 brave souls. Their story is not only a poignant reminder of the hazards faced by firefighters but also serves as a metaphor for businesses navigating the treacherous landscapes of change and competition.Smoke Jumpers are specially trained firefighters who parachute into remote areas to combat wildfires. They are the first line of defense against some of the most dangerous fires in rural and wilderness areas. On that fateful day in August 1949, a team of 15 Smoke Jumpers descended into Mann Gulch in Montana to fight a fire that had erupted in the area. What seemed like a routine operation soon turned into a nightmare as the wind shifted unexpectedly, causing the fire to engulf the gulch at a breakneck speed.The tragedy was compounded by the terrain—a steep 70-degree slope that the firefighters had to climb to escape the rapidly advancing flames. Investigators later found that none of the fallen Smoke Jumpers had dropped their heavy gear; they perished with their packs intact, loaded with heavy saws, shovels, and poleaxes. It was speculated that had they discarded this burdensome equipment, some might have outrun the disaster.This tragic event underscores a crucial lesson: the importance of agility and the ability to let go of unnecessary weight when facing an existential threat. For businesses, especially those that have been around for decades, this can be a metaphor for shedding institutional baggage to stay relevant and competitive.Long-established companies often carry their own kind of heavy equipment in the form of outdated practices, legacy systems, and old ways of thinking that no longer serve their purpose. These can drag a company down, making it less nimble and unable to pivot quickly in response to market changes or technological advances. Like the Smoke Jumpers, companies might find themselves racing uphill against challenges that are exacerbated by the weight they carry.The first step in avoiding this fate is recognizing what constitutes unnecessary weight. This could be an inefficient process that consumes valuable resources, a product line that no longer meets customer needs, or policies that stifle innovation rather than foster it. Once identified, the difficult but necessary task of letting go must commence. This might mean restructurings, like streamlining operations, investing in new technologies, or overhauling management practices to enhance decision-making speed and efficacy.The lesson from Mann Gulch is clear: survival might depend on the ability to drop what's heavy and run unencumbered towards safety. For businesses, this doesn't just mean surviving but thriving—turning potential disasters into opportunities for growth and renewal.By learning from the past and being willing to adapt, businesses can navigate the uncertainties of the future more effectively. Just as the landscape of wildland firefighting has evolved since the Mann Gulch fire, so too must businesses evolve by shedding the institutional baggage that can hold them back. It's a vital strategy for staying ahead of the curve and ensuring long-term success in an ever-changing world.Connect with Chris Cooper:Website - https://businessisgood.com/
In this gripping podcast episode, we delve deep into the harrowing events of August 5, 1949, when the serene beauty of Montana's Gates of the Mountains Wilderness was engulfed by an unimaginable catastrophe. Join us as we unravel the tragic story of the Mann Gulch fire, a devastating wildfire that forever etched its mark in history. Fifteen courageous smokejumpers, summoned to action, parachuted into the rugged terrain to combat the blaze. Little did they know that an unexpected twist of nature would turn their heroic mission into a fight for survival. Unforeseen high winds transformed this wildfire into an inferno, cutting off their escape route and forcing them to make a fateful decision – to flee uphill. In a matter of minutes, the fire's "blow-up" consumed a staggering 3,000 acres in just ten minutes, leaving a heartbreaking trail of loss in its wake. Thirteen valiant firefighters, including 12 of the smokejumpers, paid the ultimate price, while only three managed to defy the odds and survive. Discover the untold stories of bravery, resilience, and the relentless battle against nature's fury as we recount the Mann Gulch Fire and the enduring spirit of those who faced its wrath. Tune in for a poignant episode that commemorates the lives lost and the lessons learned from this tragic chapter in Montana's history. Young Men and Fireamazon.com Mann Gulch (Montana) – August 5, 1949nwcg.gov Cold Missouri Waters - Cry Cry Cryyoutube.com --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/kaycee-mcintosh/support
The paper's abstract reads: The failure of 27 wildland firefighters to follow orders to drop their heavy tools so they could move faster and outrun an exploding fire led to their death within sight of safe areas. Possible explanations for this puzzling behavior are developed using guidelines proposed by James D. Thompson, the first editor of the Administrative Science Quarterly. These explanations are then used to show that scholars of organizations are in analogous threatened positions, and they too seem to be keeping their heavy tools and falling behind. ASQ's 40th anniversary provides a pretext to reexamine this potentially dysfunctional tendency and to modify it by reaffirming an updated version of Thompson's original guidelines. The Mann Gulch fire was a wildfire in Montana where 15 smokejumpers approached the fire to begin fighting it, and unexpected high winds caused the fire to suddenly expand. This "blow-up" of the fire covered 3,000 acres (1,200 ha) in ten minutes, claiming the lives of 13 firefighters, including 12 of the smokejumpers. Only three of the smokejumpers survived. The South Canyon Fire was a 1994 wildfire that took the lives of 14 wildland firefighters on Storm King Mountain, near Glenwood Springs, Colorado, on July 6, 1994. It is often also referred to as the "Storm King" fire. Discussion Points:Some details of the Mann Gulch fire deaths due to refusal to drop their tools Weich lays out ten reasons why these firefighters may have refused to drop their tools:Couldn't hear the orderLack of explanation for order - unusual, counterintuitiveYou don't trust the leaderControl- if you lose your tools, lose capability, not a firefighterSkill at dropping tools - ie survivor who leaned a shovel against a tree instead of droppingSkill with replacement activity - it's an unfamiliar situationFailure - to drop your tools, as a firefighter, is to failSocial dynamics - why would I do it if others are notConsequences - if people believe it won't make a difference, they won't drop.These men should have been shown the difference it would makeIdentity- being a firefighter, without tools they are throwing away their identity. This was also shortly after WWII, where you are a coward if you throw away your weapons, and would be alienated from your groupThomson had four principles necessary for research in his publication: Administrative science should focus on relationships - you can't understand without structures and people and variables. Abstract concepts - not on single concrete ideas, but theories that apply to the fieldDevelopment of operational definitions that bridge concepts and raw experience - not vague fluffy things with confirmation bias - sadly, we still don't have all the definitions todayValue of the problem - what do they mean? What is the service researchers are trying to provide? How Weick applies these principles to the ten reasons, then looks at what it means for researchersWeick's list of ten- they are multiple, interdependent reasons – they can all be true at the same timeThompsons list of four, relating them to Weick's ten, in today's organizationsWhat are the heavy tools that we should get rid of? Weick links heaviest tools with identityDrew's thought - getting rid of risk assessments would let us move faster, but people won't drop them, relating to the ten reasons aboveTakeaways: 1) Emotional vs. cognitive (did I hear that, do I know what to do) emotional (trust, failure, etc.) in individuals and teams2) Understanding group dynamics/first person/others to follow - the pilot diversion story, Piper Alpha oil rig jumpers, first firefighter who drops tools. Next week is episode 100 - we've got a plan! Quotes:“Our attachment to our tools is not a simple, rational thing.” - Drew“It's really hard to recognize that you're well past that point where success is not an option at all.” - Drew“These firefighters were several years since they'd been in a really raging, high-risk fire situation…” - David“I encourage anyone to read Weick's papers, they're always well-written.” - David“Well, I think according to Weick, the moment you begin to think that dropping your tools is impossible and unthinkable, that might be the moment you actually have to start wondering why you're not dropping your tools.” - Drew“The heavier the tool is, the harder it is to drop.” - Drew Resources:Karl Weick - Drop Your Tools PaperThe Safety of Work PodcastThe Safety of Work on LinkedInFeedback@safetyofwork
This week we had the opportunity to join our friend Monson on his podcast "Life Must Go On." On LMGO they seek to help those who are going through difficult things to find hope and the courage to keep moving forward. We discussed factors that help people deal with the difficulties that life throws at them. We also shared a story of a forest fire in Montana many years ago that has spurred research into how we make sense of ourselves and our situations when we experience something difficult or otherwise life-changing. Have any questions, feedback, ideas for a future episode, or concerns? Reach out to us at nogginpodcast@gmail.com References: Weick, K. E. (1993). The collapse of sensemaking in organizations: The Mann Gulch disaster. Administrative Science Quarterly, 38(4), 628–652. Yule, K., Houston, J., & Grych, J. (2019). Resilience in children exposed to violence: A meta-analysis of protective factors across ecological contexts. Clinical child and family psychology review, 22(3), 406-431. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/noggin-psychologypodcast/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/noggin-psychologypodcast/support
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Drawing upon the story of the tragic 1949 wildfire at Mann Gulch, Rachel Johnson explores how firefighter Foreman Dodge's ways of thinking in the literal heat of the moment can have some resonant applications to our own life and leadership. The episode asks us to consider our own physical and mental readiness for the crises we so often face in school leadership, and what metaphorical baggage we can drop in order to move forward. PiXL Pearls are short reflections on life and leadership, in schools. They are here to inspire, encourage, motivate, and challenge. The PiXL network spans almost 3,000 schools across key stages 1-5. We collaborate, share best practice, and equip leaders throughout the educational system. Series 2 and 3 are presented by Rachel Johnson, CEO of PiXL, and Series 1 was presented by Founder-Director Sir John Rowling. They both draw on literature, life, and experience in leadership to explore different elements of what it is to be a good leader and how we can become even better leaders, both in and out of schools. PiXL Pearls Podcast is a We Are In Beta Production. Subscribe now to download every episode directly to your phone automatically. PiXL Pearls is a We Are In Beta production. For more information visit: https://www.pixl.org.uk/
Episode 31: “A Blow Up in Montana” JDK recounts the tough true story - and the lessons learned from it - of the 1949 Mann Gulch wildfire and the young, brave “smokejumpers” who parachuted in to fight it. Behind it all is a larger question - how do we find or make meaning out of tragedy or failure?
Episode 31: “A Blow Up in Montana” JDK recounts the tough true story - and the lessons learned from it - of the 1949 Mann Gulch wildfire and the young, brave “smokejumpers” who parachuted in to fight it. Behind it all is a larger question - how do we find or make meaning out of tragedy or failure?
Stai ascoltando Fratellitudo Podcast, Creiamo valore raccontando storie di Lavoro e Crescita Personale una volta a settimana registrando le nostre voci e quelle dei nostri ospiti. Episodio 45 – L'incendio di Mann Gulch Oggi apprenderai i drammatici eventi accaduti nel 1949 negli Stati Uniti. Un incendio che è diventato successivamente un caso studio di psicologia, di team building e di leadership. Hai fiducia nelle scelte del tuo capo? Sai lavorare di squadra o pensi solo al tuo bene? Ascolta l'episodio fino alla fine. Ti ricordo che puoi trovare tutte le informazioni che ti servono al sito Fratellitudo.com seguici su Instagram per rimanere aggiornato quotidianamente sugli sviluppi del podcast @Fratellitudo Live tutti martedì sera sul nostro canale twitch.tv/aario_ Vuoi sostenerci, ma non sai come? Il primo metodo è quello del passaparola, più ne parli, più il podcast viene ascoltato e più noi continueremo a produrre contenuti. Il secondo metodo è quello di seguirci su instagram e condividere i nostri post o le nostre storie, ci trovi @Fratellitudo il terzo metodo è quello di seguirci il martedì sera alle 21.30 live su twitch.tv se hai un account puoi effettuare una iscrizione al canale e se addirittura hai già Amazon prime l'iscrizione per te è gratuita, a noi invece verrà riconosciuta una piccola percentuale da Amazon Il quarto è metodo è la donazione diretta al nostro account Paypal, trovi il link sul nostro sito Fratellitudo.com La nostra nuova sigla è stata prodotta da Sic Parvis che ringraziamo. trovate i suoi riferimenti su instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sic__parvis/ e youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClF0giw1zLyeEd_vgZDVjpQ Consigli: - Fire Squad - Film - TED TALK Interviews – Simon Sinek
A high reliability organization (HRO) is an organization that has succeeded in avoiding catastrophes in an environment where normal accidents can be expected due to risk factors and complexity. Important case studies in HRO research include both studies of disasters (e.g., Three Mile Island nuclear incident, the Challenger Disaster and Columbia Disaster, the Bhopal chemical leak, the Tenerife air crash, the Mann Gulch forest fire, the Black Hawk friendly fire incident in Iraq) and HROs like the air traffic control system, naval aircraft carriers, and nuclear power operations. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/safetymatters/message
The blow-up of the 1949 Mann Gulch Wildfire had tragic consequences for a team of wildland firefighters. The event catalyzed a new era in fire safety, and wildland firefighting techniques that continue to this day.
The blow-up of the 1949 Mann Gulch Wildfire had tragic consequences for a team of wildland firefighters. The event catalyzed a new era in fire safety, and wildland firefighting techniques that continue to this day.
On August 5th, 1949, a lightning strike touched off a small wildfire in Montana's Helena National Forest. A team of smokejumpers were dispatched to fight the fire—but it burned out of control, trapping them in the gulch.
On August 5th, 1949, a lightning strike touched off a small wildfire in Montana's Helena National Forest. A team of smokejumpers were dispatched to fight the fire—but it burned out of control, trapping them in the gulch.
Overview and suggested actions to take after reading the article "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19".
Overview and suggested actions to take after reading the article "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19".
Overview and suggested actions to take after reading the article "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19".
Overview and suggested actions to take after reading the article "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19".
Overview and suggested actions to take after reading the article "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19".
Running from or chasing a wildfire is similar to trying to avoid or stop a pandemic from spreading. In this episode I provide a brief overview of an article from www.wildfiretoday.com called, "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19", share relatable planning lessons learned and share my $.02 on how we can all make progress. Read the full article here: https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/04/13/how-the-mann-gulch-fire-became-part-of-the-conversation-about-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3Rx0lGzvFZ9IFJ3-fhdGQsj_BnC_qCbfzKw6OGBzoyzAtUoXBeBfq-udI Read more about the Mann Gulch Fire tragedy here: https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_int/int_gtr299.pdf Godspeed, Kevin Kevin Pannell, PMP | Creator and Host of ‘People, Process, Progress’ podcast | Instagram: @pannellkg | Facebook: peopleprocessprpgeess | http://www.peopleprocessprogress.com #NWCG #USFS #peopleprocessprogress #incidentmanagement #firefighting
Running from or chasing a wildfire is similar to trying to avoid or stop a pandemic from spreading. In this episode I provide a brief overview of an article from www.wildfiretoday.com called, "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19", share relatable planning lessons learned and share my $.02 on how we can all make progress. Read the full article here: https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/04/13/how-the-mann-gulch-fire-became-part-of-the-conversation-about-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3Rx0lGzvFZ9IFJ3-fhdGQsj_BnC_qCbfzKw6OGBzoyzAtUoXBeBfq-udI Read more about the Mann Gulch Fire tragedy here: https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_int/int_gtr299.pdf Godspeed, Kevin Kevin Pannell, PMP | Creator and Host of ‘People, Process, Progress’ podcast | Instagram: @pannellkg | Facebook: peopleprocessprpgeess | http://www.peopleprocessprogress.com #NWCG #USFS #peopleprocessprogress #incidentmanagement #firefighting
Running from or chasing a wildfire is similar to trying to avoid or stop a pandemic from spreading. In this episode I provide a brief overview of an article from www.wildfiretoday.com called, "How the Mann Gulch Fire became part of the conversation about COVID-19", share relatable planning lessons learned and share my $.02 on how we can all make progress. Read the full article here: https://wildfiretoday.com/2020/04/13/how-the-mann-gulch-fire-became-part-of-the-conversation-about-covid-19/?fbclid=IwAR3Rx0lGzvFZ9IFJ3-fhdGQsj_BnC_qCbfzKw6OGBzoyzAtUoXBeBfq-udI Read more about the Mann Gulch Fire tragedy here: https://www.fs.fed.us/rm/pubs_int/int_gtr299.pdf Godspeed, Kevin Kevin Pannell, PMP | Creator and Host of ‘People, Process, Progress' podcast | Instagram: @pannellkg | Facebook: peopleprocessprpgeess | http://www.peopleprocessprogress.com #NWCG #USFS #peopleprocessprogress #incidentmanagement #firefighting
Vandaag op de safety monkey podcast komt Ed Oomes op de koffie! Ed is Senior Officer Continuiteit- en Crisismanagement op Schiphol airport en een van die vakcollega's die ik enorm waardeer. Ed heeft het in deze podcast over zijn blog en specifiek over de blog wicked problems (link) Ed is heel bedachtzaam in wat hij verteld, maar kristalhelder in z'n boodschap. Geniet er van! Ed raadt het boek Norman Maclean - Young man and fire (ISBN #9780226450353) (link) aan over de ramp van Mann Gulch. Het is een verslag van het onderzoek van Norman Maclean naar de Mann Gulch-brand van 1949 en de 13 mannen die daar stierven. De brand vond plaats in Mann Gulch in de Gates of the Mountains Wilderness. Vertel het door aan je collega's en vrienden, abonneer je, blijf nieuwsgierig, stel alles in vraag en tot de volgende podcast! #preventie #preventiepodcast #safetymonkeys #safeydifferently #hop #humanperformance #systemsafety #ongevalsonderzoek #learningculture #learningteams
In this episode, Blaine talks about some of the leadership lessons that came out of the tragic fire at Mann Gulch.
The hike to Mann Gulch, near the Gates of the Mountains Wilderness outside Helena, provides big views and lots of history. The trail starts from a historic Lewis and Clark campsite, and the steady climb is rewarded with big views.T. Towering cliffs shoot out of the Missouri River and give the wilderness area its name. At the top of the ridge, take time to read the series of signs that detail the historic Mann Gulch Fire, a lightning-caused 1949 blaze that took the lives of 13 wildland firefighters. Photo by Zack Porter
What does a stadium collapse, baseball, fire fighting, and taking a shower have in common? In this episode we explore the concept of expertise and ask does it have a dark side? Indeed, can failures sometimes occur precisely because we possess expertise? But before all that we'll join a group of firefighters about to step into an obscure valley in Montana in 1949... Sean delivered this presentation to approximately 550 delegates attending the Queensland Mining Industry Health and Safety Conference in August 2016. The title of the presentation was “Wedded to Our Tools – Why Expertise Can Hold Us back”. Look out for the next episode of the Brady Heywood Podcast in mid January 2017. Detailed information on the Mann Gulch fire can be found at https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/52fa7d_3daddbe131be4dd48103f16aeff52d6c.pdf and https://docs.wixstatic.com/ugd/52fa7d_3b0c3157e10d4b89bb16b200d58a049d.pdf
Episode 45 of DisasterCast tries something a little different. This episode has three different stories of exactly the same accidentRead more »
Steve Underwood is the Fire Management Officer out at Mesa Verde National Park and a 26 year veteran of fighting forest fires. He is also one of the most well read folks you'll ever meet. In this podcast we talk about many different famous wildfires, from Mann Gulch in '49 to Yellowstone in '88 to the 2006 Tripod fire and the 1994 Storm King fire. Steve covers everything from how fires operated before Europeans arrived in America to how a fire crew is organized to how much a wild land firefighter will carry when heading into the fight. He's also got some interesting insight into what makes women such tough and effective firefighters, why fighting fires is so interesting, and the the difference between “natural” and “wild” fires. This is a fascinating look into a subject that not many folks take the time to know about. Enjoy!
Christian Walters discusses the what happend to a group of smoke jumpers fighting a forest fire at Mann Gulch in 1949 and what can be learned from the tragedy. --- Released and distributed under the Creative Commons BY-NC-SA 3.0 United States license http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/3.0/us/ You are free to: Share - to copy, distribute and transmit the work Remix - to adapt the work Under the following conditions: Attribution - You must attribute the work (but not in any way that suggests that the Atlanta Skeptics, the Speaker(s) nor AbruptMedia, LLC endorses you or your use of the work) to the Atlanta Skeptics (http://www.AtlantaSkeptics.com/), the Speaker(s) and AbruptMedia, LLC (http://www.AbruptMedia.com). Noncommercial - You may not use this work for commercial purposes. Share Alike - If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under the same or similar license to this one.