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Some people see a city as streets, buildings, and infrastructure. Troy Innocent sees it as a playground.A BMX-riding, LEGO-city-building, world-maker from childhood, Troy never stopped playing. But instead of keeping it to himself, he turned his playful instinct into The Future Play Lab.At RMIT, Troy is transforming how people interact with public spaces through speculative design, urban play, Indigenous knowledge and augmented reality experiences like 64 Ways of Being. From risky play in childhood to playful interventions in cityscapes, Troy and The Future Play Lab are proving that play isn't just fun; it's how we reimagine the world. ______________________Hello there!We're Dr. Jane Hession and Ronan Healy. We're a husband and wife team and co-founders of the service design studio How Might We - www.howmightwe.design We're passionate about Serious Play and provide online, in-house training in the LEGO Serious Play method worldwide. Please say hello, if you would like to bring the LEGO method to your organisation.We also do in-person training across Ireland and the UK www.howmightwe.design/lego-serious-play-ireland ______________________Troy who? Dr Innocent (he/they) is an urban play scholar, artist, game maker and Director of the future play lab at RMIT University in Narrm Melbourne. The lab develops socially engaged and site-responsive urban play connecting experimental game design, public space, posthuman methods, and creative technologies. Working with the city as a material, their approach to reworlding develops posthuman methods that reimagine, reconfigure and reconnect with the world. This involves transdisciplinary practices across design, sculpture, animation, sound, light and installation using methods of multiplatform storytelling that connect objects with their environment to build speculative worlds that playfully defamiliarise and disrupt urban life.Troy has 25 years of experience in gallery-based exhibitions, symposia and site-specific projects, developing augmented reality games that blend physical objects with digital interfaces to reimagine everyday urban environments in playful ways, situating his work in Aarhus, Melbourne, Bristol, Barcelona, Istanbul, Ogaki, Sydney, Tampere and Hong Kong. They are the creator of 64 Ways of Being, an urban adventure platform combining audio walks and mixed realities to situate players in new experiences of place.Contact DetailsEmailtroy.innocent@rmit.edu.auLinkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/troy-innocent/ Website http://futureplaylab.io Twitter @playablemelbAdditional Resources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_De_Koven https://direct.mit.edu/books/monograph/2338/Critical-PlayRadical-Game-Design https://www.dukeupress.edu/staying-with-the-trouble https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carolyn_Briggs https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Making-the-Case-for-Playful-Learning-Ilgaz-Hassinger-Das/142f7fb1e64d444e053eda974860ac7711127de7 Timestamps(0:00) - Dr. Troy Innocent(2:15) - Troy's Childhood and Early Play Experiences(5:03) - Risky Play: How It Shapes Identity(6:58) - Advice to Younger Self: Balancing Playfulness and Seriousness(9:50) - The Role of Intuition in Play and Creativity(13:19) - Striking a Balance Between Seriousness and Playfulness at Work(18:04) - Adult Playfulness: Breaking Clichés and Misconceptions(24:45) - How Urban Play Inspires New Ways of Thinking About the Future(29:25) - Hopeful Play: A Tool for Social and Ecological Change(35:01) - Exploring Melbourne's Hidden Histories Through Play and AR(39:41) - 64 Ways of Being: Augmented Reality and Storytelling(42:10) - Lego Build: How Troy's Work Helps People See the World Differently(47:00) - Playlabs as a Catalyst for Change in Academia(50:34) - Entangling People in Creative Ways of Thinking
In this special episode, Nina is joined firstly by Gemma Wirz, Editor in Chief of BOLD to discuss the show's journey so far, and to pause and reflect once more on why it's so important to listen to teachers' voices:“I have always been fascinated by oral traditions and communication as a means of disseminating culture and education. I believe that teachers' stories need to be shared. They deserve the power and intimacy of the voice.” - NinaHear why Gemma joined the podcast, why she believes it's so important to bring educators, researchers, parents and policy makers together, the global challenge of teaching during the pandemic, and the shared passion and creativity that all teachers have for making learning possible for students. “Right from the first time I heard your idea for a podcast that brings teachers and researchers together and lets teachers tell their own, powerful stories in their own words, I was hooked.” - GemmaNext we meet Tobias Heiberg Jorgensen, who has experience as both a teacher and leader of teacher education programmes. Tobias leads the Playful Learning Programme in Denmark, a nationwide partnership between The LEGO Foundation and universities and colleges in Denmark.“You cannot tell teachers what to do. You can't give them one recipe, one method but you can give them a frame to develop and reflect and to ask. And this is what I guess you do try to inspire through your podcast and the playful learning programme is basically with the same vision I guess.” - TobiasDon't forget to subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss our upcoming episode celebrating World Teachers' Day.On today's podcast:Why we need to elevate teachers' voicesWhat all educators have in commonWorld Teachers' Day The role of play in learningCreating a community of practice Links:Email: podcastteachersvoices@gmail.combold.expertPlayful Learning podcast Ben Mardell – Harvard – on Pedagogy of playMitch Resnick – MIT – on Lifelong KindergartenChris Rodgers and Matt Mueller – Tuft's University – on PlayLabs and TinkeringTo find out more about today's guests, and for more episodes featuring other teachers and their stories, visit https://bold.expert/podcasts/bold-podcast-series2
Techstination, your destination for gadgets and gear. I’m Fred Fishkin. Rizwan Virk is the founder of PlayLabs at MIT….has developed a list of video games that includes Tap Fish…and will get you lost for hours reading and then pondering his book…The Simulation Hypothesis..“The book is about the...
På det tredje nationale seminar for Playful Learning havde vi besøg af professor, Chris Rogers, og ph.d.-studerende, Matthew Mueller, fra Tufts University, Boston. Fokus for det nationale seminar var udvikling og etablering af de kommende PlayLabs. I dette afsnit snakker vi med Chris og Matthew om en legende tilgang til 'engineering', om begrebet 'tinkering' og om betydningen af det fysiske rums indretning, når man ønsker at skabe gode betingelser for leg og læring. Vi bliver forstyrret af en falsk brandalarm v. 29.16, men vender stærkt tilbage og runder samtalen af efterfølgende. Playful Learning er et langsigtet partnerskab mellem de danske professionshøjskoler og LEGO Fonden for at fremme en legende tilgang til udvikling og læring. Læs mere om det nationale udviklingsprogram her: https://playful-learning.dk/
Are we living in a virtual world? Is Amazon spying on us? Is your car watching you? Find out more as Craig discusses these topics with Ken and Matt on the WGAN Morning News this Wednesday morning. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Amazon Workers Are Listening To What You Tell Alexa Are We Living In A Simulation? This Mit Scientist Says It’s More Likely Than Not Your Car Is Watching You. Who Owns The Data? --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 04/17/2019 Our Virtual world - Data Cars Are Collecting - The Truth About Amazon Alexa Monitoring Craig Peterson 0:00 Good morning, everybody. I expect I'll be doing a couple of It's a Security Thing podcasts this week. So make sure you check back. Today I was on with Ken and Matt. And we reviewed of course the articles in the news this week we talked about the cars and the amount of data they are collecting on us right now. We spent a little bit of time talking about this whole what's happening with virtual reality thing and, you know, a couple of other topics came up as well. So here we go with Ken and Matt. Matt Gagnon 0:34 Alright, here we go. It is 7:38 on the WGAN Morning News on Wednesday morning. And Craig Peterson joins us as he typically does on this day to go over what's happening in the world of technology Craig Peterson. Welcome to the program, sir. Craig 0:46 Hey, he does you know, I remember back in the, must have been 74, 75 driving down the Decarie expressway in Montreal and having the axle in our car come out the side rear axle. And it was hanging out about two and a half three feet almost ready to completely come out. So we didn't just almost lose a tire or lose a tire. We almost lost the whole wheel and the actual want to happen to be actual came out of our car. That would, let me tell you that was quite a quite an event because the Decarie expressway was was a very busy back then in the mid 70s. Ken Altshuler 1:28 How did the wheel on the other side stay on if your axle came out that far? Craig 1:34 What is the differential in the rear right, rear wheel drive car. So there's really two axles and so the one on the left side somehow the bearing went and became detached from the differential and slid it out. Man, that'll wake you up. Ken 1:51 Yes, it will. Speaking of waking up, Craig Peterson. I thought that Alexa, can't listen to what's going on in your house? Craig 2:02 Yeah, you know, there's been a lot of bad reporting on this. And you know, other than us right here, I think most stations tend to report things incorrectly. Knee jerk. Let me put it that way. Matt 2:15 Are you calling people a fake news? Craig 2:16 Fake news? Yeah, exactly. It's been all over the place just last week. So I'm not surprised you kind of caught up top this one Ken. But here's what they're saying. They're saying they're complaining that the Alexa is listening to you. And worse than than Amazon's people are listening to you. Here's the bottom line on this. And here's what's really happening. If you develop some software, you have to test it. And one of the things I never worked on was voice recognition software. I worked on signature recognition analysis, but never voice. Always a very difficult thing to do. And frankly, I am shocked and amazed how good voice recognition has become. Well, it's become really good. Not because somehow computers have gotten smarter or faster, that has nothing really to do with it. voice recognition has gotten really good because people are analyzing what the computers are doing. So you, you know, breaks down the speech and tries to understand you. And you have to have a human come in afterwards, make sure that computer did it correctly. Maybe you flag something that you want people to listen to, because the person just kept asking basically the same thing and the computer couldn't recognize it. So what's going on here right now is Amazon has a team, a worldwide team, a global team. And they examine a small portion of the recordings that the Alexa has made of your commands. So Matt, for instance, how would you tell an Amazon device to tune in to the radio station this morning? Matt 4:02 Alexa, tune in to WGAN. Craig 4:07 Exactly. And so now Alexa is going to tune in and you have a great radio announcer voice. Ken 4:14 He does. Matt 4:14 Thank you, I appreciate that. Ken 4:15 Nobody says that to me clearly. Craig 4:18 So it would pick it up and it would handle it pretty darn well. But a lot of us kind of mumble and you know, our accents are there from other languages we might speak and things. So the Amazon Alexa, the workers are not sitting there listening to all of your conversations. What's happening is a very small percentage of commands just like Matt gave, are analyzed by humans to make sure it's doing the right things. And then they use that to tune up the Alexa to be able to appropriately answer questions or obey commands. Google does it with their Google Home systems, Siri does it. Apple does it with their systems, and the workers don't have your name, your email address. They don't know who you are. They have nothing personally identifiable about you. All they're trying to do is make the speech recognition better. And they also if they hear something that might be considered suspicious, they do nothing with it, because they have no context. So people have been worried about that, too. And I can tell you, and you know, as an emergency medical professional for 10 years, I was a mandated reporter. And we had to report things that we thought were suspicious. Well, different people have different levels of suspicion. And we saw that in Blue Bloods, I love Blue Bloods on TV here this last week, where you have a woman who is there in a park and doesn't like the way another mother is talking to her and teasing her about this other mother's baby and stuff. So she reports it to the police and everything. So there's different levels of suspicion. And all you're hearing, when you're examining this, when this team is listening to the audio, is a 10 second snippet, a maximum of 30 seconds that you can't really tell what's going on. So don't worry about it. Yeah, they have it. Yeah, they're keeping it Yeah, they're analyzing it. But it bottom line, the best of my knowledge, even though it's been called up as evidence in some court cases, it's never actually been particularly valuable, other than in divorce cases. Matt 6:32 All right, we're talking to Craig Peterson. He is our tech guru. He joins us on Wednesdays at this time to go over what's happening in the world of technology. And Craig, I rewatched The Matrix the other day. And I remember 1999, when that came out, which is now 20 years ago, my god in heaven, that it sparked a number of conversations between college philosophy majors about whether or not it was something that would show us that we actually did already live inside a simulation and whether or not The Matrix was real, and the movie was kind of showing us that reality, and so on and so forth. But this conversation is rearing its ugly head yet again, because there's an argument being made right now that we are, in fact, living in a simulation. So Craig, I guess my question to you is, am I currently plugged into a computer somewhere living my life as a simulation? Craig 7:17 Yeah, it's a real interesting question. Oh, my gosh, I got into this in some detail on my podcast, too, because this is something that's fascinated me for at least 25 years before it came out, The Matrix came out. Do you remember the same time? Do you remember two more movies that came out in 98, 99? The 13th Floor and Dark City? Matt 7:38 I remember both of those movies. Craig 7:40 Yeah. All kind of the same thing. Well, here's the bottom line on all this. I'll make this pretty quick. We could go on for hours. But the basic thinking is, we have virtual reality right now. I'm sure Ken uses it every day as he's playing his video games, right. And it's getting better and better as we go forward. At some point, this is going to be better than, well, it's much better than today. But it's going to be as good as the real world you won't be able to distinguish the real world from not it was even in the fifth, The 5th Day, right? Or The 6th Day. What was that Schwarzenegger movie? Matt 8:22 I think it was the 6th Day wasn't it? Craig 8:24 6th Day. Matt 8:26 And I remember when we're talking about. Yeah. Not a lot of people remember that Arnold Schwarzenegger movie, Craig 8:28 Well, the guy had a virtual girlfriend. Matt 8:30 Correct. Craig 8:30 So it gets to that point. And our computers are fast enough to be able to simulate people just like they did in these movies, then what's to say that some history major doesn't create a program that spins up a society from 500, a thousand years ago, and lets the program run. Lets things happen within the program, to try and see how people might have acted a thousand years ago, or changing things just a little bit here or there. What would happen? Well, if any of that is possible, and it is all possible, there's no question and then it'll be extremely possible in another, certainly within 50 years, some people are saying 20 or 30 years, then what are the odds that what we are experiencing is real? And in other words, if there was one society that went all the way past where we're at to indistinguishable virtual reality, to be able to create virtual reality, civilizations, what are the odds that we are that initial civilization, and not one of millions of likely virtual civilizations in the future? And so this is from an MIT science as he just came out with a book called The simulation hypothesis. There are quite a few books out about the same topic, but I love that, that title. And he is a computer scientist, Video game developer. He leads the Playlabs at MIT. And I'm assuming it's a he. Yeah, it is a he. Rizwan Virk. R-I-Z-W-A-N Virk. So if he's right, what does it mean to us? Does it matter? You know, does it all of a sudden change our lives in any way? They the answer's no. It's very interesting to think about that though, I agree with you Matt. Ken 10:28 We are talking to our tech guru, Craig Peterson, who joins us every week at this time. 7:30 every Wednesdays. And you can go to http://CraigPeterson.com and get all this news all the time. Before we let you go, are you telling me now that my cars watching what I'm doing? I mean, I have no privacy in my car? Craig 10:47 None whatsoever. Matt 10:49 You don't have any privacy anywhere Ken. Unknown 10:51 I guess so. Matt 10:52 This is America in 2019. Craig 10:54 Well, you know, when you're really good looking Matt, everyone's watching. Ken 10:54 Exactly, really? Craig 10:55 Yeah. Yeah, I've heard that anyways. Well, I didn't realize this statistic. But cars now are capable, because really, it's just a computer on wheels. In fact, that's not even true. It is 20 to 30, at least computers on wheels in your car. And it can generate about 25 gigabytes of data every hour. Four terabytes a day. And they're saying that in another 10 years, that data from our cars is going to be worth almost a trillion dollars. So the big question out there right now is who owns that data from our cars and and how private is it going to be? Because when we take our cars, and even now, they are plugged into a network and able for instance, with Mercedes, they have engineers in Germany, that examine the data in your car to try and figure out if there's any issues, things you might not be aware of. Acura is doing some of those same things, many high end car brands are doing it and even lower end car brand are set up right now to plug your car into their computers, collect data and do some analysis. So who owns it? How private should it be? Could it be at this point in Europe, they have some laws that that aren't specifically about this, but the GDPR does kind of cover it. California has a lot that goes into effect next year. And that law is going to try and keep this private information private. But as much as 10 years ago, I know speaking of Decarie expressway in Montreal, I know in Montreal on Sherbrooke, they pulled a car over because people had reported it as speeding. The police didn't see it speed, but they pulled it over. They plugged a reader into that port in your car. And it reported that the car had within the last 10 minutes been doing 70 miles an hour on a city street and they issued a ticket. So things to think about and maybe look forward to hear guys. Matt 13:06 All right. Craig Peterson, our tech guru joins us at this time every Wednesday. Appreciate it Craig as always. And we will talk to you again next week, sir. Craig 13:15 Take care, guys. Bye Bye. Ken 13:16 Thanks, Craig. Craig 13:24 And I'll be back tomorrow. Take care guys. Bye bye. --- More stories and tech updates at: www.craigpeterson.com Don't miss an episode from Craig. 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Are we living in a simulation? Craig is on the Jim Polito show this Tuesday morning as they discuss this possibility. These and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Related Articles: Are We Living In A Simulation? This MIT Scientist Says It’s More Likely Than Not --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment, it might contain errors. Airing date: 04/16/2019 Living In A Simulation Craig Peterson 0:00 Hi, everybody, sorry a little late getting it out today. I had a couple of meetings this morning and just tied me up. Anyhow, I think you're going to love this one. I don't know how much you've thought about virtual reality and its impact on us, where it is going. But Jim Polito and I had a good conversation about it this morning. It's something I've been thinking about for going on 25 years now. Are we living in a simulation? Could this happen in the future? So here we go with Jim. Jim Polito 0:38 Here he is. The man who knows it all. Our tech talk guru and great friend, Craig Peterson. Good morning, sir. Craig 0:45 Hey, good morning, Jim. Jim 0:48 Craig, you're scaring me. You're scaring me because you sent the material for our segment. And one of my favorite science fiction movies is The Matrix. The Revolutions and you know, the Reboot. They were okay. I mean Reloaded. But I gotta say you telling me than an MIT professor says that the concept of The Matrix, which is that we're all in a dream world right now, everything around us is all imaginary. It scares me. Craig 1:29 I read a book years ago, I have this guy on my radio show, I tried to like the concept so much. And he was talking about something that a lot of our kids are really into now. And that's virtual reality, Have you tried any of this VR stuff? Jim 1:48 Just a couple of times, I mean, I like it. I think it's gonna I think it has some great applications for us. Yeah. Craig 1:56 Yeah. It does. They're using it now for medical care, remote doctors and things. It's just amazing. But you can still tell you know, it's virtual reality, but it's virtual reality kind of like cartoons were in the, in the 70s compared to what they're like today, you know. Today, you see some of the animated stuff like the new Lion King that's coming out. And it's hard to believe some of it just isn't real. You know, it's, it's, it's just amazing. Well, if we've got virtual reality today, that's like this, with the computers that we have and everything else, think of what virtual reality is going to be like in the next 10, 20, 30 years. Ultimately, you know, they're already working on this Jim, it's going to be indistinguishable from your regular life. So you're going to be able to see stuff and it's going to look real. You're going to be able to touch things and you will feel them you'll be able to smell things that are all around you. It's gonna be kind of cool because you can sit there on a beach in Fiji, in your home, in your living room chair. That's where it's all... think of that. Jim 3:11 Hey, listen, that's all right. I'm all good for that. As long as I'm in control of this, and I know what's real and what's not. What is this MIT professors saying about this what's not real? Craig 3:29 This is really kind of interesting. And I end the hypothesis is an interesting one too. And, you know, being a tech guy, I've been very interested this for a long time. You mentioned The Matrix came out in 99. There were two other movies that came out in 99 as well along the same lines. Well, this MIT professor's name is Virk, is saying that as well as many other people now including Elon Musk, if we're going to be able to get to a point where we can have virtual reality that is pretty much indistinguishable from the real world,w hat are the odds that we're not going to have simulations? What are the odds that we're not going to have things like you know, lived through World War Two? We've already got video games like that right? What's that called? Danny probably knows where, where you're in there to shoot them up World War Two game and you're you're going around and you just click on. Jim 4 :28 The Call of Duty? Danny 4:29 Probably Call of Duty. Yeah. Jim 4:30 Is it Call of Duty? Craig 4:32 Yeah, yeah. Call of Duty as an example, right. So when you're when you're in the future here, not the distant future, but the nearby future people are going to be playing games like Call of Duty. They're going to be on the beach are going to be having all of these things, and it will be quite real. Well, if you can have a simulation like that, in the future as computing improves, is that new technology coming up quantum computing, morphogenic computing and other things. In the future, we're going to have much more processing capability. So we could have things like The Game of Life. Now this, this goes way back, The Game of Life. And I don't know if you're quite geeky enough to... Oh, you remember that? Okay. Jim 5:20 I remember The Game of Life. Sure. We played it all the time. Craig 5:23 Yeah. And you had you had cells and they divided and things went on. The Game of Life where you started civilizations with certain parameters. The parameters can include there's water, does ice float or does it sink? Does this have a Game of Thrones world? Does that really exist and create those and spin them up? How about people who are in the school that at MIT and other places? Are they going to want to be able to use that technology to spin up a whole simulated civilization and have that civilization run out to see what history might have been like. So let's recreate our ancestors a hundred thousand years ago. And and start that simulation and see how they acted. Well, frankly, that's inevitable. That is going to happen. So let's crank that clock further ahead, let's crank crank it ahead 100 years 1000 years into our future we will have the capability to do that and have multiple simulations running on the same computer of entire societies. of entire civilizations crossing thousands of years. So if that's the case, if we can get to that point, ultimately what he's saying and many others have been saying is the odds are excellent that the millions to one, Jim, the odds are excellent that what we're living in is a virtual reality. That none of this is real. Because if there will be thousands or millions of these things spun up in the future, what are the odds that we are living in the very first, very initial society that creates this virtual reality? Jim 7:34 Oh my god. My mind got blown. We're talking with Craig Peterson our tech talk guru. And it's like science fiction spilling over into reality and you know, Jules Verne, remember Jules Verne was writing these novels about man on the moon and all these other concepts that ultimately came to fruition and you know, are the novels of today doing that? And now you've got an MIT scientists saying, hey, how do you know you're not living in a, in right now in a virtual reality? Remember when I was young, the big deal was, hey, we could be, our universe could be inside a molecule in the finger of a giant in another universe, you know, like and that stuff used up blow your mind you'd be sitting there in college talking about that stuff. Just blow your mind. And yet this is really blowing my mind. This stuff. Craig 8:40 It is something. This is like we're in a marble hanging on a cat's collar in Men in Black right? It is highly likely. It's called a simulation hypothesis. There are some excellent books that have been out there now for 20, 30 years about this. And you look at the Wachowski's movie series, The Matrix and some of these others. I'm trying to remember what the names of them were there a couple more in 99 but this guy's name is Rizwan Virk, I assume it's a guy, a computer scientist, video game developer, and he leads the PlayLabs over at MIT, came out with a book and he took he kind of define the, the whole thing called it the simulation hypothesis. And I've thought about this, thoroughly thought about this Jim for more than 20 years. And I don't see any way that it's not a simulation. Now, that doesn't mean that these people that believe this, don't believe in God or the God exists, or the benefits of religion or anything else, because who's saying what's being used ultimately. But if we can, if anyone can get to the point where you can't tell the difference. Even think of the Fifth Day right? That Arnold Schwarzenegger movie. Jim 10:08 Yeah, yeah. I believe that you could download everything in your brain. Craig 10:11 Everything in your brain and his buddy was, and his girlfriend was virtual. She wasn't real. And yet, everything seemed real, you know, these types of things and these hypotheses been around for a long time. So it's fun to play with. I'm not sure it does any good in any direction at all. Jim 10:35 Yeah, I know. I know other than blowing your mind and being good conversation. Especially younger. Craig 10:37 It doesn't matter, right. It's kind of the bottom line. Jim 10:41 What difference does it make? If it's true, what difference does it make to me right now? I'm a Duracell battery. That's it. Craig 10:48 I don't think that's the case. Jim 10:51 If I am a battery, I'm definitely a D cell. Craig 10:58 Here we go. Rim shot, please. Jim 11:00 Here we go. Craig Peterson folks. Always blowing our minds so the great stuff. Now Craig Peterson can blow your mind to outside of the show. He the information that he provides to me and there was a lot of other stuff today butt I just picked this little Matrix like story you can get it to and also get updates when there's a big hack or something going wrong in the IT world Craig Peterson provides this for free to my listeners. He doesn't pester you doesn't try to sell you anything. And all you do is text my name to this number. Craig 11:37 855-385-5553. That's 855-385-5553. Jim 11:48 And standard data and text rates apply. But I suggest you do it. And Craig, awesome segment and we'll catch up with you next week. Craig 11:58 Hey take care. Thanks, Jim. Jim 12:00 Thanks. Craig 12:03 Hey everybody. Thanks for listening. We'll be back tomorrow. Bye bye. --- Don't miss any episode from Craig. Visit http://CraigPeterson.com/itunes. Subscribe and give us a rating! Thanks, everyone, for listening and sharing our podcasts. We're really hitting it out of the park. This will be a great year! 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Are we in the Matrix? Well, An MIT professor says our whole experience could be a simulation thing. So we'll get into that today Are Amazon workers to your Alexa conversations? Well if they are it is for only max 30 seconds. They don't have context. I get it. It may be an invasion of privacy but could they tell anything about the context. We will delve into this more today Why are conservatives (or so-called conservatives) saying we've got to start regulating the internet? I will be covering the reasons why today. Is China selling high tech tyranny to Latin America? And it's true, and it's scary and we will discuss it. Then there is Malware that is attacking our Critical Infrastructure sites. Today. it's on our list to discuss. We've talked about autonomous cars, and about insurance and liability for them before? However, the bigger concern is DATA! Did you know that a car can generate about 25 gigabytes of data every hour, and as much as four terabytes a day? So, who's getting that data? Listen in for my take on that For all this and more tech tips, news, and updates visit - CraigPeterson.com --- Transcript: Below is a rush transcript of this segment; it might contain errors. Airing date: 04/13/2019 Government Regs Killing Internet - China Selling Tyranny To Venezuela - Russian Malware Infecting Plants Craig Peterson 0:00 Hello, everybody Craig Peterson here. We've got a lot of security and technology to talk about today, including one of my favorite topics, you might not be aware of this. But wow, you're going to love this. It is from an MIT professor. And he agrees with me about this whole simulation thing. So we'll get into that in just a few minutes. I was watching the news this week. In fact, it was yesterday on Friday. And it was kind of crazy because they were talking about oh, my gosh, Amazon workers are listening to what you're telling Alexa and the, you know, invasion of privacy and all this other stuff? Really? Really? I don't think so. Okay, so we'll talk about that. What's really happening there. Your car? We know we've talked about autonomous cars are about insurance before? Where's the liability shifting? Is it something that you really have to worry about? Well, how about all of the data? It's saying right now, this is an article from Roll Call, that a car can generate about 25 gigabytes of data every hour, and as much as four terabytes a day. So who's getting that data? And what does it mean and what's going to happen? We've had more and more calls for government regulations over the internet. Now, we've seen a lot of those in Europe, we're going to talk about what's happening right now in the US. We've even got so-called conservatives, who are saying we've got to start regulating the internet, because, of course, they feel their voices are being squashed. So we'll talk about that. China selling high tech tyranny to Latin America. This is from the Washington Examiner, in kind of an intriguing headline. And it's true, and it's scary. We've got another piece of malware out there. It's called Triton. And now it is infected a second critical infrastructure site. This is a bad, bad thing. And one more that's in my show notes for this week. And we may not get to all of us on the air today, right. So make sure you visit them online, you're going to have to go to http://CraigPeterson.com. And you can subscribe right there to my weekly show notes. You get all of the top articles that I have found during the week, right there in the daily or the weekly newsletter comes out Saturday morning. Craig 2:43 But this particular one's interesting because 16 months ago, researchers were reporting and unsettling escalation in hacks, targeting power plants. This is from ArsTechnica.com. And we talked a little bit about that before. And, you know, we know about some of the compromises that happened, for instance, in Iran that was conducted by the US and Israel. But what's unprecedented in this attack is the use of advanced malware that is targeting the site's safety processes. So it's shutting down all kinds of things that are going to help keep the plants safe. And when you think about gas field pressures, reactors, reactor temperatures rising, it gets very, very nasty, you know. Some of this stuff is designed to automatically close valves to really mess you up. And when we say mess you up, we mean to make that whole nuclear power plant go into a meltdown. Craig 3;48 So what's happening with this? There's some researchers over at FireEye who are saying that this same security firm, by the way, discovered Triton, and it ties it to Russia, that they've uncovered an additional intrusion use the same malicious software framework against a different critical infrastructure site. So I guess the big question here is, Does this mean that countries like Russia, for instance, are using malware as kind of a first strike opportunity? Right? It's hard to trace, it's hard to prove that it's them that that attacked you. Right? How can you prove it? Craig 4:30 Well, frankly, you can't in most cases, it just has fingerprints, like the Russian language, or this is attacks we know, that have previously come from Russia. Those are the types of things that we've got to watch out for. And we now know that Russia has been involved in some this hacking. We know China has been involved in some. North Korea has been involved in some to let me tell you, it's a different world. And the next war we have is going to be a much different war, that's for sure. Craig 5:03 Let's talk about this China story here, where China is selling some high tech tyranny to Latin America. This is, as I mentioned, the Washington Examiner. And this is very, very concerning. Because what we found now is China has been working with these companies like Huawei, which we know about, it's been a very, very big deal. And Huawei's devices have been banned from US military bases, and from others, but it's also saying this ZTE, is tied into this. And we know about the concerns with 5G and ZTE and all of the stuff that's going on all this stuff they're doing. And we're getting really concerned now because what's happening is that China is taking these tools that they've developed in order to monitor their people within China and really displace the United States. They're putting all of the surveillance equipment all around the US and the Western Hemisphere. Well, not so much in Canada, although, obviously with 5G rollouts, we do have some of that Chinese equipment going up there. But they're supporting right now Venezuelan strong man, Nicolas Maduro, the current president who's really clinging to power, after the western democracies, I think all of them said, Yeah, you got to be out of there. And recognize the opposition lawmakers, the interim president, China has been exporting technology that helps a South American socialist to monitor and strong arm the Venezuelan people, which is what he's been doing for quite a while. So here's an example of politics being really promoted and expanded the power base due to some of this technology. So think about that now. China is really now intertwined in the Western Hemisphere and things that are going on. And they're able to surveil, monitor, surrounding the US, that's all part of the Asia Pacific influence that they've been building here for a while. And it's very concerning very, very concerning. Craig 7:24 Maduro, by the way, paid ZTE as part of this, but to build a $70 million database and payment system for what they're calling a homeland card. Now, what's concerning about this is this so-called homeland card, that ZTE sold the technology to Maduro for is designed to be used to control access to food, to cash, bonuses, social services, a social credit system for a political control mechanism. In fact, it's even used to track your voting. So they know how you voted, it's recorded right there with the card, it goes into the database. This is all part of their smart card thing. And if you don't vote the right way, what's going to happen? It's just like in Chicago, right? If you don't pay the local Chicago thugs in the party that's in control in Chicago, you know, all of the criminal activity that's been alleged there for years, much of it's been proven, in fact, you end up with potholes in your street that won't get fixed, because you've been speaking out against the local candidate for the town, for the city, for the county, for the state. It's just it's still so corrupt in Chicago. It's unbelievable, how bad it is there. Well, it is much, much worse in Venezuela using these Chinese technologies that the Chinese have been building. Have you seen the Black Mirror episode, for those that are sci-fi fantasy, it is a series out of UK, it's a really, really good one. And the whole idea, the whole premise behind this particular episode is that every time you do something, you get social credit, or you get credit taken away from you. And this poor lady just ends up in a downward spiral and, and has no credit left, right? It gets to be really, really bad. Well, in China, now, they have facial recognition technology all over the place throughout all of the major cities. If you jaywalk, you get points taken away, because the computers know who you are. And now you don't have the social credit. And if you don't have the social credit, because you've done things that the socialist, communist government doesn't like, you cannot vote, you can't get on an airplane, you can't get on a train even they block you from those if you don't do what you're told to do. And if you're not politically correct. Free speech is just going down the tubes worldwide and very, very scary. So let's talk about friends speech here for a minute. Craig 10:01 Here's an article from the Daily Mail. And course they are ahead of us in some of this stuff, right? Free speech is outlawed in the United Kingdom. Now, it's legally outlawed in Canada, you cannot say certain things. You can't even ask legitimate questions, legitimate political questions. You cannot have a dialogue about certain things. You know, if you question about somebody's birth sex, and now they say, well, you have to use this gender when addressing me, or you're supposed to go on bended knee to his or her royal highness and request permission to speak to them what's going on? Because in Canada, and in the UK, if you say something they don't like, you can go to jail. And it's that simple. So there is no freedom of speech there. And in the US now, we've got these fascists running around, who are beating people up, threatening people, yelling, screaming, trying to stop free speech rights. And that is the definition of fascism, isn't it? It's a definition of socialism or communism, they all do it. They all try and stop free speech because they don't want the free exchange of ideas because their ideas are right. And the only reason it hasn't worked before is because of what? Well, because the other people weren't smart enough. We're smart, our generation is smarter than all generations that have ever come before us. Right? That is not what they say. So now we're tying technology into this. We're seeing it in China. Big time, big time. And we're now seeing it in Venezuela, as the current president tries to hold on to his socialist powers to control everyone's lives. And of course, people are dying, they're starving, They're digging through trash to try and find food. Right? A socialist utopia, just like the Soviet Union became? Craig 11:57 Well, now we're looking at government regulations. In the US over free speech in places like the public square. Is Facebook, the public square? Is Twitter the public square? Obviously not. But we passed laws in the US that said, Hey, listen, we're going to consider you as a public square, all you have is a faucet. And all of these ideas are coming out of that faucet. And therefore, we are not going to allow anyone to hold you liable for the things that your users say online. And that's the sort of thing that you expect from free and open fair discussions from a democracy, right? You expect that kind of free speech, and you don't want to have regulations or restrictions on the people that are providing those free speech areas, just like the public square. You could go get a soapbox, you could stand up in the public square, and you could say anything you wanted, no matter how crazy it was. Right? That that was the idea of the public square. That was the idea behind the laws that are protecting Facebook and Twitter and, and others online. Craig 13:14 Well, now we found that they are doing various types of censorship, let's put it that way. Google is being sued. And just this week, a big lawsuit was announced, because Google's showing search results that favor them versus their competitors. Now, I gotta say, if you're writing code that's going to give good search results, of course, you have to discriminate against materials that you don't consider to be, you know, up to your standard that people aren't looking at that aren't, aren't popular. Craig 13:52 But if you're looking for an unpopular opinion online, you know, remember, the majority isn't always right. Right? Slavery. The majority of people endorsed it, but it wasn't right. It was never right. So just because of the majority says something should be done. And just because political correctness would lead me to believe that that's what you should do. That doesn't mean that it is the right thing. Well, China's walled off a lot of Western services on the internet, you've heard about the Great Firewall of China before. The UK now is planning to hold executives personally liable for posts on social media that they consider harmful or illegal because remember, there's no free speech in the UK anymore. And this came out in the government white paper on Monday this week. They say this would put the country at the far end of internet censorship and further fuel, what they're calling now this splinternet. This is a term circulated for, you know, more or less a decade here, this gained some popularity recently. And this comes in the tail end of Mark Zuckerberg saying, you know, Facebook's chief, that he wants a common global frame that a framework of internet rules, which is never going to happen, right. Tim Burners Lee, you might remember him, he started the worldwide web's, software. And he came up with what he called a contract for the web that establishes an ethical sense of principles for the internet. A whole lot here. The New Zealand Christchurch mosques, massacre, you remember, this was very recent as well live streamed online. It's a heightened sense of urgency in New Zealand. They just knee-jerked, passed laws within two weeks that change the face of what's happening there. Huge debates in the US and the EU on curbing what they're calling incitement to violence. Now, obviously, you can tie this into, can I yell fire in a crowded theater? Right? There's a lot of things that you could do here. Craig 16:10 In free speech, that would step over lines like that. So how about the line for inciting to violence? What is that? What does it mean? Well, in Australia, there's a law now it's a new one that can jail social media executives for failing to take down violent extremist content quickly. A proposal in Britain that makes executives personally liable for harmful common content posted on social platforms. How do you define this? How do you define harmful content? Where is the line? If someone says, Oh, my feelings were hurt? Is that harmful? Well, of course, it is, because their feelings were hurt. So does that mean we can't say anything that might upset anyone again, refer back to that, that Black Mirror episode of the UK proposal, this is from a White House technology advisor, who's now over at MIT says that it's a very bad look for rights-respecting democracy to do what they're doing in the UK would place the UK toward the foreign the internet censorship spectrum. Craig 17:19 And the UK culture Secretary says, you like that? They got a culture Secretary over there. The Culture Secretary says the proposed laws will not limit press freedom. Okay, so where's the line on the press? Look what's happening right now, the Ecuadorian embassy in Britain. And you have a guy who is now under arrest, who's claiming he is a publisher, right? He published documents that were stolen by two military members, one was a military contractor and one, another military man who was working with secret information. Was he a publisher? Did he help them steal it by providing instructions on how to sneak classified information out? Was he a co-conspirator? There's just so much right now going on. And you know, when we're looking at free speech, I think free speech is almost absolute. Craig 18:23 If it can be shown that something caused physical harm to someone, you know, that's kind of where the my you're right to swing your fist stops where my nose begins. Now, obviously, at some point, while that fist is being swung, I'm feeling threatened. Craig 18:42 But where do you draw the line? Well, I think you draw the line at touching me, certainly at hitting my nose. And this is something that the internet pioneer has never really thought about. Remember, I've been on the internet since 83. Of course, it wasn't called that back then. We had different types of networks and things. But since 83, and free speech was always a big deal. We didn't really get free speech until September of 91 online, because it was still heavily controlled by the federal government. Remember it was a federal government research project that funded it, but then they kind of let loose of it in 91. But man, what a world out there. Craig 19:22 Let's get into this Amazon article right now. I was listening to the news. I was watching a morning news program, in fact, this week, and they were talking about how bad it is that Amazon Alexa workers are sitting there listening to you. Okay, so that's one level. And then they said, Oh, and on top of it now, they won't call the police if they hear something that might be bad. Now, I like it. I like that, right. And I understand the first part. And I like the second part. Because you know, the second part, you don't have the full context, you've got a 3o second snippet. You know, somebody wakes up that that Amazon device, or that Google device, or whatever it might be. You wake it up, it records for up to 32nd, sends it up to the cloud, processes it, and then execute your command. So they're listening to max 30 seconds. You don't have context. You don't know what's going on. And you certainly don't want to destroy people's lives over a vague suspicion. Right. So I like that. I really like that. It's just like as when I spent 10 years in emergency medicine, we were all mandated-reporters. But we did not have to report unless we thought there might be something going on that's reportable. Craig 20:52 So I think that's a pretty straightforward thing. I think that's pretty simple to look at and understand because it didn't think that something was reportable, then I never reported it. And so different people had different bars, right? How high that was. Now, let's go to the first part of this where they were very upset that Amazon employees were listening in. Craig 21:17 It's very limited when Amazon employees are listening in and they're not listening to all of the audio coming from your house. So listening to at most that 30-second snippet, when you told Alexa, that you had a command for her. That's it. That's that simple. And what they're doing is they're using your audio to better the speech interpretation, better the machine learning, so that it understands how people are asking questions, what sort of accents they might have, how it works. For instance, when I talked to Alexa, I get great responses, because she understands me. She understands me speaking, hopefully, you guys do too. But my wife has issues with it. I have a son that has issues with it. And that has to do with your cadence, your clarity of speech, right, enunciation. And how do you improve your software? You improve it by testing. How do you test software, that design that's intended to be able to process human speech and understand what it's going for? Understand what the goal is of that human that's asking you to do something? Well, this is the only way to do it. Right? They don't have these employees that hear the audio don't have your name. They don't have your account number, they have no idea who you are, they don't have the email address. All they have is a snippet of sound, and how the Alexa voice processor processed it. So they can listen to what they can see was Alexa correct in parsing much you said? And was it correct in understanding your intention behind what you said? So it's pretty simple, it's pretty straightforward. Don't get too freaked out about this. And there have been court cases where Amazon has been asked for and did provide under court order, the audio that has been captured. But remember, it's very limited audio. And unless that device has been hacked, and you know, it hasn't happened in at least a couple of years that I'm aware of. If it's hacked, it is possible to make it so it's recording. But the way the hardware setup in that Alexa, it cannot record you, unless that little light is on. It's a physical hardware limitation that they purposely built into it. So it's not as though they can just turn on the microphone and life is good. It's like on your MacBook Pro, the hardware that when your camera is active, that light comes on. It's all designed in one piece. So unlike many Windows machines, you can't just turn on the camera and not have that green light come on. The same thing with Alexa. Now, if you have physical access to the device, there may be you know, there's always ways right ultimately, to get into that. Craig 24:22 Man, we are almost out of time. Three technologies that could create trillion dollar markets over the next decade. I got that from Barons, but it's up there on http://CraigPeterson.com. Very interesting. And they talk about some genetic stuff and quantum computing and material science. You'd find that fascinating, I'm sure and I have it up again along with all of these at my website http://CraigPeterson.com. And if you go to htttp://CraigPeterson.com/radio-show, you'll see my show notes, but you also get those in the email if you signed up. This is the one that I really am interested in. Craig 25:03 Are we living in an illusion? Did you notice back in 99, there were three movies that came out that were implying, inferring, opening our minds to the possibility that we are living in a simulation. And I had a guest on my show about that time. He's just a regular engineer. But he had done a lot of thought a lot of research and put together a book that was specifically addressing that question. Very thick book, very convincing book. And he did all the math behind it. And basically, what he said is that, eventually, any civilization will get good enough to be able to have a virtual reality that's indistinguishable from the real thing. Craig 25:52 And the odds are that within 20, 30 years from now, that'll be true here. You'll be able to plug yourself in one way or the other and live in whatever worlds you want to. Have a vacation in Fiji and just enjoy it and not have any jet lag okay. That's coming. So if that happens, basically he said the odds are millions to one that we are living in that timeline that invented this virtual reality. Craig 26:28 We may be all running this, this whole world, this universe that we perceive around us, is millions to one likely to be a simulation. We are not likely to be that very first time through. And what's interesting is this ties into a lot of religions as well. Because again, God created the heavens in the earth. He did it in six days. Oh, maybe he did. Maybe we're running in a simulation, and on a computer in somebody's basement? Who knows what we're doing? And are we all just artificial intelligence programs? So this is fascinating. When I get this book, Rizwan Virk, I may try and get him on the radio show. He's a computer scientist. Video game developer, he leads PlayLabs at MIT. And his book's called The Simulation Hypothesis. I love it. I love just the mental gyrations you kind of have to go through to think about this and the potential of being a simulation. Craig 27:33 Well, I appreciate everybody being with us today. We will be back next week. And course I've been releasing podcast now, six days a week. Most weeks, it's you know, it's between two and six. But most recent six weeks we have you know, It's A Security Thing where we're talking about current recent security problems businesses have had what could have been done to prevent them what you can do, and then also just talking about all these great articles that we send out in our show notes. So have a great day. We'll see you next week and thanks for listening. http://CraigPeterson.com for more. 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