In the Seam with JP Ross Fly Rods & Co. fly fishing and much more

Today I have a long awaited interview with my bud Chris Steed. Chris is a terrific angler and it was a pleasure to have him on the podcast. Honestly, this is just a fun listen of two guys talking about fly fishing. Chris fishes all over the northeast and just last year I had the pleasure of fishing with him for a bit in the Adirondack Mountains. He constantly sends me pics of him fishing in his home state of Massachusetts. He also is beginning to venture into New Hampshire, Maine and Vermont. I hope you enjoy it. JP

Today is a special day. I get to speak to a wonderful author and fly angler David Ladensohn. David is the author of: Fly Fishing with Leonardo Da Vinci. More info on this book can be found on his web site. As usual we talk about much more than Fly Fishing. David even gives me some tips on a successful 50 year marriage. Don't miss out on this great conversation.

Today on the anniversary of 9-11 we are releasing a great episode with retired police officer Bart Lombardo of Panfish on the fly. We dont just talk about catching panfish, we also talk about why fly fishing matters, and we dig into why we think fly fishing makes us happy. In addition we talk about the very special TOAD S-Glass fly rod we made just for him. It is available here on our web site. Enjoy. simply fish. JP Ross --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today I take you with me into the backcountry of the Adirondacks in search of brook trout again. This time I bring my canoe and we portage and fish on a very special river. Come with me and learn tips and experience my mistakes real time. Rest assured, we do catch plenty of brook trout. JP --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

In this episode I record myself on a fishing adventure I did just 2 weeks ago in the beginning of May. Its an awesome experience going from the valley to the mountains in the spring and fall and seeing the difference in where the trees and nature is in time. I try to explain this in this episode and also catch some fish on the way. www.jprossflyrods.com --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk to Jill Beattie about her quest as an angler and as a musky fly angler specifically. She gives tons of great tips on when to fish and how. You are going to love this. References, Jillians Instagram https://www.instagram.com/girl_withthe_muskytattoo/ https://crcustomrod.com/collections/fly Solunar Forecast --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk longer faster rods with two great anglers Jeff Kimball and Bryan Kimball. We already have two rods in our line up called the Coherence and the COHERENCE PLUS. medium fast and fast action. However I have been playing with a new blank called the PARSEC. The reference being to the Millinium Falcon and the Kessel Run it made in less than 12 PARSEC's. Now thats FAST! The boys start out talking about fishing and fishing flies and techniques and I begin to quiz them on the differences between all the longer faster rods we make. I also ask the question, is medium action rods out of date now? Not Needed? Obsolete? You will be surprised to hear their opinion on the matter. Enjoy: JP --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk about trout conservation specifically in the North East USA and the challenges associated with "getting stuff done." We talk about getting wrapped up in data, and not realizing its purpose. We talk about what needs to be done, and possible methods on how to do it properly. Have a listen as we spitball ideas about trout conservation on this episode of IN THE SEAM. BOB MALLARD was born and raised in Massachusetts, spending his first thirty years there. He is intimately familiar with the states fisheries and their history. While he currently lines in Maine, Bob still finds time to visit Massachusetts to check in on his old haunts. Bob is a founding member of Native Fish Coalition.  He served as NFC's National Vice Chair from its inception until April 2020 when he stepped into the role of Executive Director. Bob also serves as an Advisory Council member for the Maine and New Hampshire chapters. He was a founding member and former president of Somerset County Trout Unlimited, founding member of Dud Dean Angling Society, and a former member of Sportsman's Alliance of Maine's Fishing Initiative Committee.  Bob is one of Maine's, and the nations, most visible, vocal, and active native fish advocates, and has been for close to 20 years.  He has fly fished for roughly forty years and logs 100 or more days a year on the water.  Bob is a former fly shop owner, Registered Maine Fishing Guide, blogger, writer, and a staff fly designer at Catch Fly Fishing.  Bob was the Publisher, Northeast Regional Editor, and a regular contributor to Fly Fish America magazine, and is a freelance fly fishing and native fish conservation writer. His writing, photos, and flies have appeared in Outdoor Life, Angling Trade, Fly Fisherman, The Drake, American Angler, Fly Rod & Reel, American Fly Fishing, Fly Fishing & Tying Journal, Fly Tyer, Eastern Fly Fishing, MidCurrent, OrvisNews, Fly Life Magazine, The Fiberglass Manifesto, Tenkara Angler, On The Fly, Fly Fishing New England, The Maine Sportsman, Northwoods Sporting Journal, R.L. Winston catalog, and numerous blogs and local and regional newspapers. Bob has written five books, 50 Best Places Fly Fishing the Northeast , 25 Best Towns Fly Fishing for Trout, Squaretail: The Definitive Guide to Brook Trout and Where to Find Them, Favorite Flies for Maine: 50 Essential Patterns from Local Experts, and Fly Fishing Maine: Local Experts on the State's Best Waters. He has contributed to several other books as well. Bob can be reached at Info@NativeFishCoalition.org --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today on In The Seam we talk about something that we all have experienced. A shadow in the darkness of that pool that you know so well. Mark has had an experience with the beast, and its name is DAVE. Mark talks about this today. Make sure you keep tracking the progress of capturing DAVE on his blog. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today I have a discussion with artist Ryan Smith of Ryan Smith Sculptures. Ryan did a beautiful painting of a brook trout in a net and the image spoke to me so much that I wanted to have prints made to sell to others to enjoy, and also have the proceeds go to Trout Power Citizen Science Group. The Giclee Prints are available on our web site at this link. Please have a listen and hear how Ryan explains how he makes these beautiful paintings, the time it takes and what inspires him to make them. Enjoy. JP --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

I briefly talk about a new rod I am releasing that was inspired by the boys at Blue Line Outfitters. The rod is a 5 and a half foor S-Glass 2-3 weight 4 piece. I explain a little about what the rod made for. I learned this from Adam and Hamp of BLO. Here is a link to their new website and their you tube channel. https://www.bluelineoutfitter.com/ https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCn_b6MLgiI_MN3gvCrzeAWg --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we speak with Joseph Marietta. He talks about techniques to fly fish the Smoky Mountains as well as some scary health issues he had to deal with for a young man in his 30's. How fly fishing helped get him through it and why "simply fish" as a mindset, matters. Listen in to todays podcast brought to you by JP Ross Fly Rods. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

We talk about a lot of things today with Jim Sollecito. Jim is a multi time IGFA record holder, and it all started with his record CHAR with his JP Ross Fly Rods 8 weight. Jim owns a nursery and landscaping business in Syracuse NY. Listen in on our discussions and how a few things that have happened by accident in his life turned out pretty well. Also listen how Jim has used the outdoors to get over some very tramatic experiences he has had in life. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we interview Adam Shirley and Hamp Cross of BLUE LINE OUTFITTERS YouTube channel. I was interested in these talented anglers because of their recording of their adventures catching wild brook trout in Georgia. I was very amazed at the beauty of their surroundings and also the beauty of their fish. On top of all that, they are very talented and their skills to fish such small streams are impressive. Enjoy this episode. JP Ross JP Ross Fly Rods --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk to Mike Masciangelo of M & M Trout Adventures about fishing in Montana and a special adventure JP Ross & Company is putting together with him. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today I speak with the 2 people that created Hellbender Net Company. How the design came to be? Where did the name come from? Listen to their philosophy on their product and customer service, and a little about what else we may see from Hellbender in the near future. The Hellbender net is available on our web site for sale. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

This podcast is going to be hard to beat. Bob has some terrific wisdom here and talks about his experiences being a guide and being in the woods as a fly fishing guide. Bob is owner of www.westernmountainsflyfishing.com and also guides at the Hungry Trout in Wilmington NY on the Ausable River. As usual we dont talk a ton about fishing on this podcast, there is much more about life and the lifestyle of being a guide. Enjoy... Sincerely: JP Ross --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

I sit down with two old friends Scott Daskiewich and Chris Partridge to talk about Brook Trout Fishing in the Adirondacks. Pull up a chair as we have drinks and dinner at 69 Steak House in Whitesboro NY. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

This is a repost of an interview that we did on wet fly swing with Dave Stewart. Here is the link to his podcast. It's a great podcast with a ton of content. We talk about how we got started and some of my mentors along the way. I hope you enjoy it. JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Things get even a bit more deep with todays discussion with my good friend Keith Tidball. Keith wears many hats in education and conservation as you will learn. Most important in todays conversation we begin to touch upon 2 topics that are important to me. The Stress of entry to wilderness or exit from technology and the stress of re-entry back to society and communication. We also touch upon a concept that I came up with about the shock wave of human usage on nature. All of this is discussed today in our podcast. We also get into a faith discussion about being Christian, and we touch upon the controversial topic of my shield logo for JP Ross & Company. There is a lot to think about in this episode and I do hope you enjoy it. Sincerely: JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we speak to Andrew Gillcrist of Great Camp Sagamore and Cari Ray of the Zen Fly Fishing School, talking about an upcoming fly fishing school at the Great Camp. I hope you enjoy. JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

JP Ross of JP Ross Fly Rods takes a moment to have some fun and talk about Small Stream Fly Fishing and some techniques he likes to use. He also talks about the fly rods and the different models. We hope you enjoy it. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Todays podcast we speak to a seasoned angler names Mike Graziadei who enlightens me into a few things about angling that feel I will keep with me forever. Relativity and the Age-less-ness of being outside. Have a listen. Mike also tells his story about catching a big brown trout on a dry fly and how that experience is unique and different from catching a steelhead. What's better? Who cares, they both are fun. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we speak to Steve Pogodzienski of POGO PIKE. However as usual, we get a bit beyond just Pike Fishing. There is a lot to learn here about mindfulness, being kind, and what is the real legacy we leave behind. Have a listen... Learn more about Steve and Pike fishing on his web site... Pogo Pike --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

While you sit inside listening to the rain and feeling bad that its not good weather to go fishing, Jeff Kimball is getting his fly box ready to head to the stream. Today we. talk to big fish hunter Jeff Kimball. He is an artist and taxidermist and fly angler... but I would say that in his mind he is a dad first, then husband, but his friendships are about equal to his love of fly fishing... perhaps his. best friend is the water. We explore how Jeff thinks about angling and catching big fish. I hope you enjoy this episode. Sincerely: JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Living in the Adirondack Mountains and making a sustainable living there is not easy. Pete is an old friend of mine and deserves a ton of respect as a loving Father, Husband and successful entrepreneur and employer. Listen today as Pete tells us some stories about things that have happened to him in the woods and how he got his business going as a 5th generation homesteader in North Creek NY on the banks of the Hudson River. Learn more about Beaver Brook Outfitters on their web site. https://www.beaverbrook.net --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Pull up a chair to the fountain of youth. A turquoise river flowing through a desert. It was a trip that Mark says was a game changer, a life changer. Find out why on this. episode of IN THE SEAM. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

On todays episode we speak to Matt Dinardo. Matt once lived here in Utica where we met him. He now lives in Virginia with his wife and daughter but still religiously makes trips up north to fish the Lake Ontario Tributaries, especially in the fall. We talk about places to fish and also techniques. Enjoy: JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

today we have Cari Ray of Fisher of Zen podcast and blog. Cari is known for her work as a singer songwriter and has started her blog and podcast about her love of fly fishing and how that associates with her philosophy on life. Enjoy todays interview with Cari and make sure you check her out on her site and social media platforms. You will not be disappointed. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Learning new techniques is never easy, but it is necessary in the path of success in anything you try to excel in. Many of us, like me, get stuck doing the same fly fishing techniques and our catch rates kind of stay the same. Euro Nymphing is a style of drifting to catch fish that is very effective. Today we talk to Bryan Spinner, an instructor of Euro Nymphing on his You Tube channel. https://whitedogoutdoors.com/ Have a listen as we discuss this style of fly fishing and also how he has become so successful on his You Tube Channel. Sincerely: JP Ross --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk with Mark Usyk, member of JP Ross & Company and also an independent author of: Reflections of a Fly Rod and also Carp are Jerks. You can find them on our web site and also on Amazon. Mark has a philosophy on life and it is great. He is wise and you should listen to him. Judge if you want, but he doesn't care. He is simple as a person, but complex in his thoughts. And thank God for that. I hope you enjoy this episode of IN THE SEAM. Music by Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Chris is a solo explorer, and recently he has found a little more than he expected on some of his adventures. This time on IN THE SEAM podcast with JP Ross. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today I had the wonderful opportunity to have a recorded conversation with accomplished artist AD Maddox. She talks about her life and what happiness means and how she has become so successful. Lots of life lesson nuggets in this one. more info: https://www.admaddox.com/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we have a lake side chat with Emily Martz, the Director at Great Camp Sagamore. In this pod cast we discuss what a great camp is, and how Sagamore came to be. We also take a turn and talk to Emily about what its like managing a staff so far back in the woods and what leadership skills she has learned. Emily has done a spectacular job managing the Camp and the place has so many great programs and secrets it would love to tell you. More info here. at sagamore.org --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

It's story time again, and I decide to tell the story about me catching my big stream brook trout from a couple weeks ago. I hope you enjoy the story and the meaning behind why I needed to go. Sincerely: JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Todays guest is Steve Haigh of the Destination Angler Pod Cast. We talk about fishing in the USA, Smallmouth Bass and fly fishing... and we talk about Steve as an artist. This is a great overview of places to fish in North America. Enjoy. JP --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk to an inspiring female angler named Brenna Dekorte. Brenna is from Pennsylvania and she gives us insight on lots of things like; Women in the outdoor industry, organizations for women, the pink it and shrink it mentality on gear, and also she talks about how she managed to get back to fly fishing after an assault on her that happened while getting off the river. Brenna is an inspiring person and we are proud to have her on our pod cast. her are some links to her organizations. http://www.djlflyfishers.org/ https://projecthealingwaters.org/ --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Mike Crawford of Upstate Guide Service has been guiding the Adirondacks for well over ten years. He takes his job serious but does not lose touch with what matters... just being outside. Listen to our talk with Mike as we get into the nuances of being a guide and the guide life. Music by: Jason Maloney. Sponsored by: JP Ross Fly Rods --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

We get a little deep with our guest in this pod cast, and I think its great. Many topics are discussed including Peter's affection for the AXE and its history itself and its history in his life. We talk about the importance of the American Garage, and how electronic screens just kinda dont do it for people like us. Peter and I are similar in many ways and from what I can tell from our followers of this pod cast, you will enjoy hearing from Peter. In the end we discuss why a tool or an object can be so important. There is a trust and an appreciation for the device or tool. We get into that a bit in our conclusion of "in the seam". Enjoy. JP Music by: Jason Maloney references: Wiki about Peter Peters Web Site Link to Best made --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Hornbeck Boats is "the boat" for back country pond fishing and exploring. I interview Josh the new GM of Hornbeck and we discuss the models, the history and the future of this boat and company. Hornebeck Boats link Music by Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we interview Evan Bottcher of the Hungry Trout Resort in Wilmington NY, just outside of Lake Placid at the base of Whiteface Mountain. They have a 9 acre resort on the banks of the West Branch of the Ausable River, and access to a number of private water adventures. How would you like to be in the State of NY and catch a brook trout that is measured in pounds, not inches? Its not a dream... today we talk about how that is possible with these guys at Hungry Trout. Guest: Evan Bottcher Music: Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we bring to the mic an old friend of mine Dominick Greico of @adirondackflycompany. Find them on Instagram here. Dom is a terrific fly tier and his story is compelling. When he was much younger he had a brain tumor and part of his recovery left him with some tremors in his hand. Fly Tying was just the answer to learn his dexterity. Little did he know that years later after the kids grew up a bit and he had some free time again, he would re-visit fly tying and become what I believe is a world renowned fly tyer. His flies are amazing and his story is even more wonderful. Listen to this podcast and check out his flies and his social media presence on Instagram and Facebook. Dom is an old friend of mine and it was great to connect with him. Thanks bud for taking the time to be on the show. Music by Jason Maloney. Find out more about JP Ross here. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we talk to long time friend and guide Rich Burson of R U Fishing Yet Charters in Islamorada Florida, Florida Keys. The Florida Keys are a chain of islands that are over 100 miles long. They start about 17 miles from Miami and extend to almost 90 miles from Cuba at its southern most point. I love the keys and I love everything around them; meaning the backcountry. Once you have seen the back country of the Florida Keys, you will realize that the islands are really just a road to get there. The real adventure is on the water. I hope you enjoy this pod cast, and reach out to me if you have any questions. www.jprossflyrods.com jpross@jprossflyrods.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today we speak to Martin Bawden of the FLYMEN fishing company. We talk about how the company started and what was the first innovation of the product line... the nymph head. Later came the fish skull, and the fish skull product line expanded... we also talk about the new fly tester he is offering. music by: Jason Maloney link to fly tester. https://flymenfishingcompany.com/products/fly-tester use code JPSHIP for free shipping on your order. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Todays guests are Ryan Mackerer and Chris Murphy or Troutpower.org. The group was founded by JP Ross and is now a 501c3 and has helped to advance science about wild brook trout in New York. Music by: Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Do you know where to find moose in the spring and fall? Well this episode will give you some tips on how to find them. Music by Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today I have a talk with Steve Hurst the bureau chief of the fisheries dept of the New York State DEC. We talk about the management plan. The goods and the "could do better next times. " I am proud that I was involved in this plan and that I got to know Steve so well. I am honored that he was on my pod cast. Listen in. More info on the trout stream plan.. click here. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Glass is not dead... just look up the hash tag on I Gram and you will see. However, we did into what one man and his blog did to the industry that could be equal to what Jeep did to the automotive market. We also once again dig into what happiness means for different people. Cameron enlightens us on many aspects of fiberglass fly rods and life. Enjoy. Music by: Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

We had a great podcast with Matt Guymon. He is a super talented photographer and has a great outlook on life. Music by Jason Maloney --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Story time with Mark Usyk and world acclaimed photographer John Segesta. Mark and John met in the Adirondacks and that day found a 20 inch brook trout. But there is more to it than just that. John wrote a story about us that was featured in Drake Magazine. Here is the link to the article. His photography was also used in the article and it really is beautiful and helps tell the story of our Trout Power weekend. So make sure you check it out. Music by Jason Maloney. Hear more of Jasons Music here. and check us out at www.jprossflyrods.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support

Today I interview James Taylor, long time friend of mine, now living in Idaho. James has caught some huge Golden Trout on the fly.. but not without some work. Like 35 miles one way type of work. But to him, its totally worth it. Find out why. Music by Jason Maloney. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/message Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/jprosscompany/support