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Code source
Mbappé au PSG : envie de départ, contrat XXL… retour sur un début de saison agité

Code source

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2022 21:47


Le samedi 21 mai 2022, la star du PSG Kylian Mbappé met fin à plusieurs mois de suspense et officialise, au Parc des Princes, sa prolongation de contrat sous les acclamations des supporters. Mais cinq mois plus tard, le jeudi 11 octobre, Le Parisien et plusieurs autres médias révèlent son désir de quitter le club dès cet hiver. Même s'il brille sur le terrain, en coulisses le joueur de 23 ans serait déçu de ne pas occuper toute la place qui lui avait été promise dans le projet sportif du PSG. Des informations que Kylian Mbappé nie publiquement, alors que le montant de son nouveau contrat vient d'être dévoilé par Le Parisien : plus de 600 millions d'euros, soit le plus important jamais signé par un sportif. Pour Code source, Stéphane Bianchi et Sébastien Nieto, journalistes au services des sports du Parisien, reviennent sur un début de saison agité au PSG.Ecoutez Code source sur toutes les plateformes audio : Apple Podcast (iPhone, iPad), Google Podcast (Android), Podcast Addict ou Castbox, Deezer, Spotify.Crédits. Direction de la rédaction : Pierre Chausse - Rédacteur en chef : Jules Lavie - Reporter : Ambre Rosala - Production : Raphaël Pueyo et Ambre Rosala - Réalisation et mixage : Julien Montcouquiol - Musiques : François Clos, Audio Network, Epidemic Sound - Identité graphique : Upian - Archives : BFM, Beinsport, RMCsport, l'Equipe. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Frontstretch
Podcast: Jordan Bianchi on If NASCAR Should Move Championship Race

Frontstretch

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 27, 2022 39:09


Bryan Nolen talks with Jordan Bianchi, motorsports reporter for TheAthletic.com. Plus, a look back at Homestead and a look ahead to Martinsville.

The BikeRadar Podcast
Full-suspension Specialized Diverge, Bianchi's Air Deflector Wings & Bespoked 2022 | Road & gravel tech round-up

The BikeRadar Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 21, 2022 43:37


George, Ash and Stan from BikeRadar dissect a bumper week for road and gravel tech, covering the launch of the new Specialized Diverge STR and Bianchi Oltre RC, as well as the return of the Bespoked show.As Specialized's first take on a full-suspension gravel bike, the Diverge STR introduces Future Shock Rear, a tendon-like system with 30mm of travel.The Oltre RC, meanwhile, is Bianchi's next-generation aero road bike, complete with F1-inspired Air Deflector wings on the head tube.The trio also reflect on the 2022 edition of Bespoked, the UK's leading handmade bicycle show. What weird and wonderful machines did we find in London?New Specialized Diverge – https://www.bikeradar.com/news/2023-specialized-diverge-str/New Bianchi Oltre RC – https://www.bikeradar.com/news/bianchi-oltre-rc/BikeRadar's Bespoked 2022 coverage – https://www.bikeradar.com/events/bespoked/Bespoked gallery – https://www.bikeradar.com/features/2022-bespoked-gallery/Sturdy reveals the Eimar, a 3D-printed, titanium time-trial bike – https://www.bikeradar.com/news/sturdy-eimar-time-trial-bike/Josh Poertner podcast – https://play.acast.com/s/bikeradarpodcast/bikeradar-meets-josh-poertner-of-silca-on-marginal-gains Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 10/18/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 18, 2022 6:43


Henry Lake
Jordan Bianchi on the latest twists and turns in the wild NASCAR playoffs

Henry Lake

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 14, 2022 9:30


Steve Thomson talks with Jordan Bianchi from The Athletic, about the NASCAR playoffs, the twists and turns, why NASCAR in Las Vegas works, younger drivers emerging, potential bad blood and more.

The Firebird Nest
The Nest S4 Episode 7 // Mental Health Awareness

The Firebird Nest

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 13, 2022 17:09


In this episode, hosted by Fabio Nardi and Sarah Devia, Ms. Bianchi one of our Middle School Counselors joined us in discussing the importance of Mental Health and provided us with tips on how to deal stress, anxiety, and depression

Hoy por Hoy
15 minutos de fama | Gestión de crisis: mejor Olivia Pope que Noemí Argüelles

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 13:32


Una vez que has cometido un error grave, como Iker Casillas este fin de semana, ¿llamas al señor Lobo, como en Pulp Fiction, o a Noemí Argüelles, la de Paquita Salas Management? Porque no todos contamos con la Olivia Pope de Scandal. El experto en reputación Santiago Mollinedo explica que para cuidar la imagen de marca lo mejor que puede hacer el famoso es no pronunciarse. Además, Martín Bianchi nos cuenta qué hay de cierto en la relación entre Paloma Cuevas y Luis Miguel tirando de uno de las expresiones del diccionario castellano corazón: ni confirman ni desmienten. O sea, que confirman.  

Noticias en Español
15 minutos de fama | Gestión de crisis: mejor Olivia Pope que Noemí Argüelles

Noticias en Español

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 13:34


Una vez que has cometido un error grave, como Iker Casillas este fin de semana, ¿llamas al señor Lobo, como en Pulp Fiction, o a Noemí Argüelles, la de Paquita Salas Management? Porque no todos contamos con la Olivia Pope de Scandal. El experto en reputación Santiago Mollinedo explica que para cuidar la imagen de marca lo mejor que puede hacer el famoso es no pronunciarse. Además, Martín Bianchi nos cuenta qué hay de cierto en la relación entre Paloma Cuevas y Luis Miguel tirando de uno de las expresiones del diccionario castellano corazón: ni confirman ni desmienten. O sea, que confirman.  

Noticias de César Vidal y más
15 minutos de fama | Gestión de crisis: mejor Olivia Pope que Noemí Argüelles

Noticias de César Vidal y más

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 13:34


Una vez que has cometido un error grave, como Iker Casillas este fin de semana, ¿llamas al señor Lobo, como en Pulp Fiction, o a Noemí Argüelles, la de Paquita Salas Management? Porque no todos contamos con la Olivia Pope de Scandal. El experto en reputación Santiago Mollinedo explica que para cuidar la imagen de marca lo mejor que puede hacer el famoso es no pronunciarse. Además, Martín Bianchi nos cuenta qué hay de cierto en la relación entre Paloma Cuevas y Luis Miguel tirando de uno de las expresiones del diccionario castellano corazón: ni confirman ni desmienten. O sea, que confirman.  

Unica Radio Podcast
Intervista a Valentina Casalena: Premio Andrea Parodi 2022

Unica Radio Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 10:08


Dal 13 al 15 ottobre a Cagliari si terrà la quindicesima edizione del Premio Andrea Parodi: ne abbiamo parlato con Valentina Casalena. Mancano pochi giorni al 15° “Premio Andrea Parodi”, uno dei più importanti contest europei di world music, in programma dal 13 al 15 ottobre all'Auditorium del Conservatorio "Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina" di Cagliari e organizzato dalla Fondazione Andrea Parodi. Le serate, che inizieranno alle 20.30, sono a ingresso gratuito con prenotazione al Boxoffice Sardegna (070 657428 - info@boxofficesardegna.it ). A confrontarsi nella finale del contest saranno Balentia (Sardegna), Beija Flor (Sicilia), Escarteen Sisters (Catalogna), Folkatomik (Piemonte), Raquel Kurpershoek (Olanda / Spagna), Walter Laureti (Lazio), Antonio Smiriglia (Sicilia) e Ual·la! (Catalogna), che si esibiranno in tutte tre le serate. Ad alternarsi con loro sul palco ci saranno ospiti di rilievo del panorama musicale italiano e internazionale. Venerdì 14 saliranno sul palco il Cuncordu e Tenore de Orosei, a cui andrà il Premio Albo d'oro 2022, e Matteo Leone (vincitore del Premio nel 2021), che presenterà anche il video di “In mézu ô mo`”, prodotto dalla Fondazione Parodi. Nella serata finale del 15 sarà invece la volta del Canzoniere Grecanico Salentino, di Tosca e del cantautore portoghese Tiago Nacarato, che riceverà il Premio Albo d'oro internazionale e proporrà anche qualche brano con la stessa Tosca. L'esibizione di Nacarato è in collaborazione con Officina Pasolini, laboratorio creativo di alta formazione e HUB culturale della Regione Lazio, dove si esibirà il giorno successivo. Inoltre, nelle prime due serate del Parodi il Conservatorio di Cagliari proporrà l'esibizione di alcuni suoi studenti: il 13 Sara Murgia e il 14 Movie Brass e Tallinn Trumpet Ensemble. Tutti gli ospiti, così come i finalisti, interpreteranno un brano del repertorio di Andrea Parodi, l'artista a cui la manifestazione è dedicata. Parodi, scomparso nel 2006, dopo aver fatto parte dei Tazenda ha intrapreso una importante carriera solista nell'ambito della world music. Tracce del suo percorso (come immagini, video, audio) si potranno trovare dal 12 al 15 ottobre in Piazza Porrino (di fronte al Conservatorio) nel Museo multimediale itinerante a lui dedicato, visitabile ad accesso libero. A presentare la manifestazione, che si avvale della direzione artistica di Elena Ledda, saranno Gianmaurizio Foderaro e Ottavio Nieddu. Principale e prestigioso media partner dell'evento è Rai Radio1. Le tre serate saranno trasmesse in diretta streaming sulle pagine Facebook della Fondazione Andrea Parodi e di EjaTV. La terza anche su quelle di Rai Radio1 e Rai Radio Tutta Italiana. La notte fra il 15 e 16 ottobre, a partire dalle 00.40, su Rai Radio1 ci sarà invece una puntata speciale di “Stereonotte-Brasil”, curata come sempre da Max De Tomassi, trasmessa in diretta dal Premio Parodi, con interviste a molti dei protagonisti del Premio e con l'ascolto di loro brani. Importante anche la programmazione degli appuntamenti collaterali al Premio, tutti a ingresso libero. Il 14 ottobre nella sala Bembo dell'Hotel Ulivi e palme alle 16 si terrà un seminario sui diritti degli artisti interpreti ed esecutori a cura di Andrea Marco Ricci (del Nuovo IMAIE) ed alle 16.45 uno sul diritto d'autore a cura di Claudio Carboni (del Consiglio di gestione della SIAE). Alle 17.30 ci sarà poi la presentazione del volume “Storie di straordinaria fonia” (Bertoni editore) di Foffo Bianchi, Francesca Gaudenzi e Duccio Pasqua, con Bianchi e Pasqua. Conduce il pomeriggio Ottavio Nieddu. Nello stesso luogo sabato 15 alle 10.30 ci sarà spazio per la consueta giornata di studi del Premio Parodi, con una tavola rotonda su “Cantare a quattro in Sardegna: dai contesti rituali alla world music”. Interverranno Ignazio Macchiarella e Marco Lutzu dell'Università di Cagliari; Jacopo Tomatisn dell'Università di Torino; Sebastiano Pilosu dell'Associazione Tenores Sardegna e Diego Pani della Memorial University of Newfoundland. Alle 12 sarà la volta del “Premio Blogfoolk Choice”, assegnato al miglior album di world music dell'annata dal periodico online BlogFoolk Magazine. A vincere è ”Still Moving” di Justin Adams & Mauro Durante. Nelle finali gli otto artisti si esibiranno dal vivo davanti a tre ampie giurie, una tecnica, una critica e una internazionale, tutte composte da autorevoli addetti ai lavori, che saranno in buona parte presenti in platea (altri in remoto). Ecco la composizione delle giurie. Giuria tecnica: Elena Ledda (direttrice artistica, musicista), Andrea Ruggeri (musicista), Pippo Rinaldi Kaballà (musicista), Simonetta Soro (musicista, attrice), Silvano Lobina (musicista), Gino Marielli (musicista), Gigi Camedda (musicista), Gesuino Deiana (Musicista), Lia Careddu (attrice), Gisella Vacca (musicista, attrice), Cristina Maccioni (Attrice), Marti Jane Robertson (ingegnere del suono), Antonio Ferraro (Ingegnere del suono), Foffo Bianchi (Ingegnere del suono), Marco Lutzu (etnomusicologo, Università di Cagliari, Partner), Ignazio Macchiarella (etnomusicologo, Università di Cagliari, Partner), Nicola Meloni (operatore culturale), Annamaria Loddo (operatrice culturale), Nicola Spiga (operatore culturale), Rambaldo degli Azzoni Avogadro (discografico, operatore culturale), Jacopo Tomatis (Partner, Premio Città di Loano), Gaetano d'Aponte (Partner, Premio Bianca d'Aponte), Michele Palmas (Partner, S'ard Music), Andrea Del Favero (Partner, Folkest), Gigi Di Luca (Partner, Ethnos Festival), Stefano Starace (Partner, Mo'l'estate Spirit Festival), Andrea Marco Ricci (Partner, NUOVO IMAIE), Claudio Carboni (Partner, Consigliere di Gestione SIAE), Luigi Fontana (Partner, U.N.A. Unione Autori Musicali). Giuria critica: Claudio Agostoni (Popolare Network), Paolo Ardovino (giornalista musicale), Angela Calvini (Avvenire), Simone Cavagnino (Unica Radio), Flavia Corda (Tgr Sardegna), Franz Coriasco (Rai Italia), Tore Cubeddu (Eja Tv), Flaviano De Luca (Manifesto), Ciro De Rosa (Songlines /Globofonie), Max De Tomassi (Rai Radio1), Daniela Deidda (Sardegna Eventi 24), Enrico Gaviano (La Nuova Sardegna), Felice Liperi (Repubblica), Elisabetta Malantrucco (Rai Radio Techetè), Luigi Mameli (Radiolina), Marco Mangiarotti (Quotidiano Nazionale), Tonino Merolli (Funweek), Duccio Pasqua (Radio 1), Fausto Pellegrini (Rainews), Timisoara Pinto (Gr Rai), Francesco Pintore (Unione sarda), Cristiano Sanna (Tiscali), Claudio Scaccianoce (Gli stati generali), Giacomo Serreli (giornalista musicale), John Vignola (Rai1), Giuseppe Vota (Rai). Giuria internazionale: Sergio Albertoni (Rsi Radio Svizzera Italiana), Thorsten Bednarz (DeutchlandFunk Kultur, Germania), Andrew Cronshaw (Froots Magazine, Rough Guide To World Music, Regno Unito), Petr Doruzka (Czech Radio, Rep. Ceca), Edyta Łubińska (Università di Varsavia, Istituto di Etnologia e Antropologia culturale), Piotr Pucylo (Globaltica Festival, Polonia), Albert Reguant (Radio Ona de Barcelona, Catalogna), Juan Antonio Vazquez (Mundofonias, Spagna). Il vincitore assoluto avrà diritto ad una borsa di studio di € 2.500, oltre alla possibilità di esibirsi in alcuni festival partner del Parodi nel 2023, come l'European Jazz Expo (Sardegna) e Folkest (Friuli), oltre che nello stesso Premio Andrea Parodi. Potrà inoltre usufruire di assistenza legale e manageriale per un anno da parte di Siedas. Il vincitore del Premio della Critica avrà invece la possibilità di realizzare un videoclip professionale di un brano, prodotto dalla Fondazione Andrea Parodi. Per alcuni dei finalisti del Premio ci sarà anche la possibilità di essere invitati ad esibirsi in alcuni dei festival partner (come Mare e Miniere, Premio Bianca d'Aponte, Mo'l'estate Spirit Festival, Musiconnect-italy). Il Premio Andrea Parodi è realizzato dall'omonima Fondazione grazie a Regione autonoma della Sardegna (fondatore), Fondazione di Sardegna, Comune di Cagliari (contributo e patrocinio). Partner della manifestazione sono: European Jazz Expo, Folkest, Premio Bianca d'Aponte, Premio Città di Loano per la musica tradizionale italiana, Mare e Miniere, Musiconnect-italy, Ethnos Festival, Mo'l'estate Spirit Festival, Mare aperto, Festival del torto, World Music Academy, Associazione Culturale S'Ardmusic, Fondazione Barùmini – Sistema cultura, Comune di Aggius – Etnosfera, Conservatorio di musica di Cagliari Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina, Labimus (Laboratorio Interdisciplinare sulla musica dell'Università degli studi di Cagliari, Dipartimento di Lettere, Lingue e Beni culturali), SIAE - Società Italiana degli Autori ed Editori, NUOVOIMAIE, Federazione degli Autori, U.N.A. (Unione nazionale autori), Siedas, Boxofficesardegna, AF Motors. Media partner sono Rai Radio 1, Rai Radio Tutta Italiana, Rai Sardegna, Radio Popolare, Tiscali, Unica Radio, Ejatv, Sardegnaeventi24.it, Il giornale della musica, Blogfoolk, Folk Bulletin. Partner internazionali: Deutchlandfunk Radio (Germania), Mundofonías (Spagna), Czech Radio - Petr Dorůžka (Rep. Ceca), Radio Ona de Barcelona (Catalogna), Association Musica Italiana (Francia), World Music Charts Europe (Rep. Ceca), Radio Wira Wiri (Olanda). Segui gli aggiornamenti su Unica Radio.

Técnica Fórmula 1 · Podcast de F1
Episodio 594 · Semi carrera Japón y ¿Verstappen Campeón?

Técnica Fórmula 1 · Podcast de F1

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 78:01


Toda la información sobre la promocóni óde Volvo la podéis encontrar aquí: https://www.volvocars.com/es/v/cars/recharge No os la perdáis!! Poco a poco los motores de muchas competiciones se van apagando, pero no se apagan los chicos del Podcast Técnica Fórmula, que en los episodios de esta semana analizan lo que pasó en la vuelta de Suzuka al Campeonato Mundial de Fórmula 1. Un fin de semana “raro” en el que hubo partes interesantes y espectaculares y otras realmente “raras”. El viernes, en agua, fue divertido. El sábado, muy interesante con una clasificación muy ajustada. Todo apuntaba a una carrera espectacular en lluvia, pero no fue así. Y es que la carrera empezó (tarde), pero a las dos vueltas estaba suspendida. Fueron horas de espera para ver tan sólo 29 vueltas. Momentos peligrosos… Sin embargo, lo que más ha dado que hablar ha sido, una vez más, la FIA, que sacó una grúa a pista con los coches aún en la misma. En un circuito donde las sensibilidades - aquí sufrió su fatal accidente Bianchi - están a flor de piel para pilotos y aficionados. Aunque también hay que tener en cuenta que el que dio la alarma (tremendamente enfadado) sobre lo que sucedía, Pierre Gasly, tampoco es que estuviera haciendo las cosas totalmente bien: salió de boxes a muchísima velocidad en régimen de coche de seguridad. La carrera tardó muchísimo en reanudarse, por la lluvia. Ahora mismo, una carrera con lluvia (que antes eran las más divertidas) es una auténtica tortura para los aficionados. ¿Son el problema las gomas? ¿O es la visibilidad? Sea cual sea el problema, lo cierto es que hay que buscar una solución. … y momentos polémicos. Y qué decir de la forma de Verstappen de coronarse Campeón - por cierto, en casa de su proveedor de motores: ni él ni su propio equipo lo sabían, pensaban que no era posible. Pero la FIA indicó que el reparto de puntos reducido es sólo si se suspende la carrera. Es decir, que una carrera con 3 vueltas, que empiece en el filo de las 3 horas, repartiría todos los puntos. En resumen, que Verstappen se convierte en bicampeón y sus dos coronas las consigue, cuando menos, en circunstancias extrañas. Eso sí, lo cierto es que ha sido el mejor del Campeonato, tanto él como su equipo y su coche. Para concluir con las noticias de la semana, ya se sabe qué equipos han superado el techo presupuestario impuesto. Red Bull (7 millones de euros) y Aston Martin, que no ha sido acusada de pasarse de presupuesto, sino de incumplir el procedimiento de entrega de datos a la FIA. Lo que no se sabe aún es cuáles serán las sanciones, probablemente ninguna o, en todo caso, sanciones sin consecuencias (pensemos qué puede ser una multa para un equipo que pasa el presupuesto en 7 millones… un chiste). Así está el Mundial (aparte de decidido). Ya sabemos que, una vez repartidos todos los puntos de la carrera, pues fue acortada pero no suspendida, Verstappen se ha convertido en Campeón del Mundo por segunda temporada consecutiva. A ellos ayudó la sanción a Leclerc, que le dejó en tercera posición de la carrera y permitía al holandés coronarse ya, matemáticamente, Campaón. Y esta situación ha permitido, también, a Sergio Pérez subirse a la segunda plaza en el Mundial de pilotos, pues aventaja por un punto a Leclerc. Tras ellos, Russell vuelve a la 4ª posición (207 puntos) y relega a Sainz, tras su fallo del domingo, a la 5ª (202 puntos). Lewis Hamilton (180 puntos), Lando Norris (101), Esteban Ocon (78), Fernando Alonso (65) y Valtteri Bottas (46) completan la tabla de los diez primeros pilotos en la clasificación mundial. En cuanto al Mundial de constructores, Red Bull cuenta ya con mucha ventaja (aunque no son matemáticamente campeones) sobre Ferrari: 619 puntos frente a 454. Les siguen Mercedes (387), Alpine (143) que vuelve a superar a McLaren (130), Alfa Romeo (52), Aston Martin (45), Haas (34), Alpha Tauri (34) y Williams (8). Escucha el episodio completo en la app de iVoox, o descubre todo el catálogo de iVoox Originals

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 10/11/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 11, 2022 9:13


Storie dal Giappone
Il demone dai capelli bianchi - Capitoli 21-24

Storie dal Giappone

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 10, 2022 42:37


Scritto da Edogawa Ranpo, il demone dai capelli bianchi è un viaggio nella psicologia di un uomo che evolve i suoi pensieri ottusi quando raggiunge la felicità, per poi mutare completamente nel momento in cui viene ferito. Vendetta, rimorso, rancore, avidità e ambizione, questi sono gli elementi portanti di questo romanzo.Omuta, il protagonista, si racconta, sembra quasi di averlo al nostro fianco, mentre svela i suoi pensieri e riflette sulle sue azioni, spesso raccapriccianti.

The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast
Alexey Vermeulen - Gravel Cyclist and exclusive ride partner for Willie, the fastest known dog

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 4, 2022 46:17 Very Popular


This week we sit down with professional gravel cyclist, Alexey Vermeulen.  Alexey is currently ranked 2nd in the Life Time Grand Prix going into the series finale at Big Sugar.  2022 has been a breakout season for this rising star with a big win at BWR San Diego.  In addition to his racing exploits, Alexey is one of the founders of the From The Ground Up Project and the excluse ride partner for the 'fastest known dog', Willie the weiner.   Alexey's website  Episode Sponsor: AG1 by Athletic Greens Support the Podcast Join The Ridership  Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: Alexey Vermeulen [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the show. We welcome Alexi Vermilion. Alexi is a professional off-road cyclists competing in the lifetime grand Prix series this year. With only one event left big sugar in Bentonville, Arkansas coming up this month. He is sitting in second in that competition it was a great time to check in with Alexi. Alexia is not only a great athlete, but also a great ambassador for the sport. He always seems to be around, to share a smile or a laugh after some of these big events. If you don't know him for his professional cycling career. You may have also seen him with a dog on his back, riding a bike. Yeah. We'll get into his relationship with Willie. And what type of terrain Willie likes to ride? I'll give you a hint. It's the off-road kind. Before we jump in, I need to thank this week. Sponsor athletic greens and I've been using athletic greens for many years now. And I like to refer to it as my nutritional insurance. I don't always have the best diet and it just gives me a baseline of some of the nutrients and minerals that I need throughout the day. One tasty scoop of athletic greens contains 75 vitamins minerals and whole food sourced ingredients. Including a multivitamin multimineral probiotic, green superfood blend. And more, all that work together to fill those nutritional gaps in your diet. Increase energy and focus. Uh, aid with digestion and support a healthy immune system. All without the need to take multiple products or pills. This is what I think I really love. It's simply every morning I have a routine. I get a scoop of the powder, put it over ice and water. Shake it up. Get some hydration and get all those nutrients and vitamins in me in one fell swoop again on days where I go deep on the bike, sometimes I'll do a second class. I know for me, I start to feel sort of just run down and drained and I don't have the luxury of sitting back with my feet up after a ride. I often have to jump right into enjoying my son and caring for him. So I love just being able to top off and make sure I've got my recovery. Athletic greens is offering a free one year supply of vitamin D and five free travel packs to all my listeners with their first Simply visit athletic greens.com/the gravel ride. And join health experts, athletes, and health conscious go getters around the world who are making a daily commitment to their health. Again, simply visit athletic greens.com/the gravel ride. And get your free year supply of vitamin D and five free travel packs today. Would that business behind us let's jump into my conversation with Alexi. Alex, welcome to the show. [00:03:06] Alexey Vermeulen: Thanks a lot. Thanks for having me. [00:03:07] Craig Dalton: I feel like this is a long time coming, like Cody [00:03:10] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. Since what, two years almost now? [00:03:12] Craig Dalton: Yeah, exactly. I remember when we met at Rodeo, I had asked Neil Shirley about, you know, just who was gonna be there and who I might talk to, and he's like, Here's Alex. He's the fastest guy in gravel you don't know about yet. [00:03:26] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. I think Neil believed in me maybe before I believed in myself. But I think that was my rodeo. Strava kms were the beginning of my success. [00:03:33] Craig Dalton: Put you on the radar, but you'd been on the radar for a long time. So I, I always start off the podcast with just getting a little bit about your background. So why don't you tell me, tell us where you're from and how you got into cycling, and then ultimately let's talk about that journey into gravel and MTV territory. [00:03:49] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. I'll try to keep this somewhat short. If we start at the beginning, I probably, I started in like kids triathlons. My mom was doing em. As with any cycles, I feel like hated this swimming portion. You just like get to the, get to the run and bike and they're like, Okay, let's go. This is fun. Ran with my helmet on my first triathlon. That was cool. But yeah, it just kind of transitioned to my love of just going fast and pushing boundaries. Right. I think I was 1211 at that portion and my grandfather immigrated from Holland, actually grew up racing. And when he immigrated to Canada, didn't really continue. He did a lot of riding. That kind of caught on at some point when I was doing triathlons. I remember this very vivid ride. I was on like a 24 inch wheel trek and we did a, like, supposed to be a 30 mile ride, became 60, you know, and like completely bumped 10 miles to go and like the entire last 10 miles, I would like fall back into his hand. He'd give me a push and I'd spin as hard as I could, you know, for minute and a half. But I think like as I grew up and started doing other sports, I did a lot of things, played hockey, played soccer, cross country. It eventually in high school fell to cross country and cycling. And I was, I think, somewhat naturally gifted. Just I enjoyed endurance and pushing myself, but it just became a, a choice between the journey, right? Like cycling took me to new places. I got to go to Vermont to scream out stage race. I got to travel. We did family weekends. Cross [00:05:03] Craig Dalton: you live in a community? Did you live in a community that sort of embraced endurance athletics? Where were you? [00:05:08] Alexey Vermeulen: So I grew up in Michigan. Yes, it's good. Good job. You're good at this? Yeah. No, I grew up, grew up in Michigan. Born in Memphis, Tennessee, but grew up in Michigan since I was two years old. And that's kinda like, I think just where I was. Ann Arbor about an hour south of Detroit. It's just, it's a big. Community for the Midwest at least. This big, an AVE Club was there and definitely like, you know, had the Tuesday crib practices. Like there wasn't a, a pathway, wouldn't say there was many kids my age. But there was definitely, like, I remember I hear stories now about, Guys come up and talk to me and they're like, Oh yeah, your dad used to drop you off the local school and just say, don't let him get dropped. I'll see you guys at the other end. But I didn't know that, you know, I was like, Oh, I'm on this alone. I'm 12 years old. Ah, look at all these guys. You know? So there definitely was, maybe not, maybe unbeknownst to me at the beginning, but I do. I. There's a lot of hard Midwest guys that come out because you don't, I realize that even when I go back, you can't stop peddling Colorado. I'm like, Oh, I've got three hour ride. I'll climb for two hours and descend and coast down Michigan. You got a three hour ride, you're peddling for three hours. [00:06:04] Craig Dalton: So I was talking to someone about this the other day. It's so different, like even in California on the coastal range here, I get a lot of breaks where I'm not pedaling. So when I go somewhere where I actually have to continue to turn the pedals for four hours in a row, I'm absolutely crushed. [00:06:17] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, it's, it's a big deal. I, yeah, every time I go back I feel like I bon every third ride. Probably my issue with not eating, but another story. But yeah, so it just kind of continued. Probably, so sophomore year of high school was like that deflection point. I won nationals, which I always say somewhat lucky. Obviously you can put in the work, but there's also 10 other guys doing it at a minimum. And that kind of gave, opened up the financial side of it for my parents, where the national team covered some of the, And I got to go to and I was 16 racing at 17 at the time, and European racing, you just fit me man. I like, I loved it. The CME style all out. Just like if you're not in the front, you're in the back. I just like, it was everything I had dreamed. I remember I went over there with like 700 euro spending away with my parents and like came back with like 1400, like doubled it and I was like, Oh, this is great. And just like it was the first moment I remember like not thinking this is my career, but. Like, Oh, I wanna push harder cuz this is really fricking fun. And it's also, you get to be in Europe, right? Your kids are, your friends are back at high school and you're like, you know, you skip three, three weeks, you go home. But that trip, that was supposed to be three weeks at ces, turned into going to the World Championships in Copenhagen cause I did well. And so that kind of opened up this whole pathway to actually having a chance at something. Juniors. So that was the World Championships in Copenhagen in thousand 11. You know, cut a race with guys that I grew up watching. Canara, KA Dish. All these guys race up the same course I day to day earlier, which is just like, there's no words for it, right? Like when you grow up dreaming of something or like watching random videos. [00:07:40] Craig Dalton: Yeah, and unless you've observed or watched one of these things, you just cannot understand like the spectacle of having everybody racing with their country flags on their bodies. No trade teams. Like, it's just such an amazing experience. I, I love, and I've had good fortune of going to two world championships to watch, and it was just electric, both of [00:07:58] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, it's, it's unbelievable. And I think it's like, it's, yeah. Something I'll never forget. That kind put me on a pathway in to fast forward this, you know, in cycling there's a couple jumps, right? There's under 23. So when you, when you're 18 years old, jumping into the next category, which is a four year category, but that also coincides with in the, pretty much everywhere, college, university. And so I made. Little packed with my parents like, Hey, if I have offers from one of one or both of the two big teams in the US at the time, which were lived strong in bmc, it was just coming on that I could def still apply, but defer college for at least two years through that contract and see what I could do. I was fortunate enough to have an offer from both and ended up choosing bmc. Cause I just loved the racing in Europe and they were, had to schedule it primarily there. And I just, it just kept growing. Like, I feel like this, that first year on bmc, you know, you're not making much, you're making 15 grand or something, but you're, you're 18 years old, you're living in Europe with your best friends. And it was the first time I was like, Wow, you can make this your job. Like, that's like, where can this go? What, what can I do? And three years on, I was lucky enough to get an email from, from Lato Yobo. And you know what? Transitioned and became the job. And it was that moment where I like, had completed this USA cycling pipeline and I was like, Okay, so what's next? You know, I signed this big contract and I was, I was stoked. You're 21 years old and it's what you've dreamed of your whole life in a sense. But also felt like I, like, okay, so am I doing this for 15 years or am I doing this for 10 years? Like, it was such a, I questioned a lot of it. Right. [00:09:23] Craig Dalton: You a, I mean, presumably in those BMC years, you were forced to live that professional lifestyle and make start to begin to make significant sacrifices to continue progressing. [00:09:36] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, I think BMC was lucky because you got to see it also, right? So we were at the development team right underneath the Pro World tour team. You know, you got to watch guys like Brent Book, Walter, who's American and Larry War Bass. Go through their version of it, right? Like, help you kind of pick, Hey, if I actually move, if I actually make this jump, where do I wanna live? Do I wanna live in east? Do I wanna live in drone? And kind of see before you had to deal with it, see the struggles and see the positives of racing at that level. But yeah, like it, it just came down, you know, once I signed that contract, I just, I wanted more and more and more. And it was this weird feeling of like, unless you were winning, You couldn't make, you couldn't do more, You couldn't make an impact on sponsors or people or community. [00:10:15] Craig Dalton: And this is at at the then the jumbo team at [00:10:17] Alexey Vermeulen: yeah, yeah. Sorry. So two years on and I loved it, right? You get to race these, like, we all dream of like Lia Best and Lombardia Doe. Right? [00:10:25] Craig Dalton: Yeah. It's probably somewhat lost. It's probably somewhat lost on a listener. I'm sorry to interrupt, but it's somewhat lost that that is. That's the big time. You're, you're on. I mean, everybody knows it now, but it's the one of the biggest and best teams in the world. You sort of made it there, obviously, like it continues to be a journey when you're a neo pro and you've got your first year in these big pro tour teams. But I think you were just getting into sort of this idea of, okay, now what's my identity? What's my role in this big organization in the biggest league in the world? [00:10:55] Alexey Vermeulen: yeah. And even in life, to be honest, right? You're 21 years old. I honestly, I think if I. In hindsight, probably would've given myself my last year in under 20 threes. But like when you take a chance, like you don't turn down, like at the time that I went, it had been almost three years since the American had gone to the world tour. So it was one of those things that like when is the opportunity if going to come again? Like, you're just young, right? You learn everything. Like, I remember my first moment, I, I chose to move to J and I just, I got a, a key mailed to me and I'm like, Google translating the back of a taxi in Spanish. Like, I think is this addressed? I'm like getting out, trying. It's like nine o'clock at night's dark. I'm like trying to find the lock, like eventually find where I'm going. And there's like life experiences at the same time. That, you know, back to not going to school. I like, kind of feel like I was educated by the bike. Like I learned a lot of like life. Balance. I don't know, just maybe not directly academic, but I learned a lot about myself in, in that time. And it kind of just transitioned into when I was racing at the top level, what, what is next? What can I do? What do I want to do? And I remember, you know, you kind of mentioned it quickly if I wanted to go to mountain bike or not, but like, I remember thinking like, okay, I can continue doing this. Maybe get better, right? Because that's 21, 23. But like I didn't, I wanted to be a GC rider. That's what I'd grown up doing. And I kind of felt like I wasn't good enough in a sense. Like you never know you're young, but like I was like, there's a lot of work to be done here to be able to climb like Andy sch Slack or anything that I watch growing up. Right? So just, you know, in 2018 was like, I kind of wanna just go send it and see what happens. And I was good enough at the business side of her like connection side that I had relationships with Bianchi and kind of took a lot of the sponsors I had on Lato to back into the US and said, Hey, I wanna try this mountain bike thing. And very quickly realized that the World Cup mountain bike is the exact same as what I was doing. Just different bikes and wider titers. But gravel was growing and so I, you know, I was trying to figure out where I belonged and my identity had kind of changed, but that was the beginning of what I'm doing now, which there's things I miss, but I don't have any regrets. It's, it's really cool to see what's growing in the us [00:13:04] Craig Dalton: Yeah, no doubt. So you to just unpack it a little bit, you move over, you get a, you get what maybe described as a private tier program with Bianchi. You start trying the mountain bike thing. Discover it's, it's sort of emotionally and maybe sim physically similar to what you've just been going through in the world tour and leaving the world tour. You were looking to do something different and have a different relationship with your vocation as a professional cyclist. [00:13:32] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, a little bit. I mean, I think the biggest thing was that I, I wanted to actually positively impact either the companies I worked with or. Individuals community around me, right? Like athletics of any kind are very selfish. You have to be selfish on some level to, to grow as a person, as an athlete. But on the world tour team, you know, you have 28 riders and you have these companies paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to be a part of this team. And rightfully so, the team wants one answer, not 28 different answers. And I felt like, well, there's eight of us here who could actually make an impact on this company that's giving a lot of money to this team yet. You're blocking it. So I felt like there was kind of a, a backup or like a flaw in the system. And not that I was the only one that ever saw that, but I was like, I actually like the portion off the bike as well. I like enjoying and talking. Like, it's not exhausting to me. I enjoy, you know, being a human and talking through things, Hey, this worked, this didn't, or like, let's figure out how to do this better. I'm up for do that content, you know? So I saw that gap kind of existing in the US as things grew. But I don't think I ever thought it would grow into what it is now. [00:14:36] Craig Dalton: Yeah. And was that sort of just timeline wise, was that the beginning of the pandemic that you had done your mountain bike thing and you were gonna transition into gravel that 2020 season? [00:14:46] Alexey Vermeulen: 29. I had one full year, 2019. I did a good schedule. Mostly mountain bike, almost all mountain bike. But I did, I like Belgium, Fri, San Diego and Flatted out of, and like I was definitely that year and even with my coach, we were all just like, let's just go test events this year and see what happens, you know? Had to convince my parents I wasn't being an idiot. But other than that it was easy. And it was just like, it was fun to. Start to build those relationships that we talk about now, right? Like, I pride myself on not ever burning a bridge and like being able to go back to anybody. And like I feel like I talk to companies I've worked with in the past, even just as a consultant nowadays which like is kind of just cool to me. Like I enjoy, like this is doing well. This is not like, you know, it is just such an interesting space to be in. [00:15:30] Craig Dalton: Yeah, it really is. And the, I think the athletes that can articulate feedback about the product and the experience, or even the vibe that companies are trying to create, that's gold, right? That's where you wanna be spending your money. [00:15:42] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. Yeah. And it's a, it's a battle as you know, like trying to figure out advertising is such an interesting thing especially in sport, because sport is hard to quantify. And like the way I, I mean like, not to give away my secrets, but the way I kind of pitch this thing as an athlete is, It has to be at least three parts, right? You have to validate equipment on some level, and so that doesn't mean you need to win every race, but you need to be up there validating a new bike, a new set of wheels, a new handlebar. Like does it work at the highest level? Why does it work? But I think that's, you know, 30% of it. Maybe the other part is just being a face for a brand, which to talk about vibe. Like it means like, you know, not having some sterile company with a tent at an event, like talking through things, real life shit, having a dog, right? Like Willie's been such a. It would make jokes about it. Just such a conversation opener when you're just standing. Like, who? We all want carbon wheels. We're all buying them every day. No. So how do you just be a person? And the last is the internal feedback, right? That it just takes time and you have to work with a company for a long time for that to actually be beneficial. Right. I think people are like, Oh, Alex had that bike a year before it launched, so he put all the feedback. Dude and I had feedback that'll affect the next generation of that bike, but it's so far in advance that to truly, positively impact a company, you have to be involved really early on. [00:17:01] Craig Dalton: Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. [00:17:02] Alexey Vermeulen: So I, I think if you put all those together, that's the full athlete, you know, doing well in the US and privateer. [00:17:07] Craig Dalton: And it seems like one of the things you recognized was this idea that, you know, you will be required to create content as an athlete in this new space, and you took a very proactive vision on what that content was gonna be and how you were gonna show up [00:17:25] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, I tried to, I mean, I think it's, especially now, like you look at a race, like on band, I feel like there is almost more videographers than racers sometimes. Right? It's kind of, And content for content sake. Is the bane of my existence. Like I, I, I hate to be, and like even the way you and I just chatted before we started this podcast, like I struggle with podcasts that just jump in and say the same thing the entire time. Because if you have an i, if you have an agenda and you asked me exact same questions I talked about last week on a different podcast, it doesn't benefit anybody, right? It's just content for content's sake. Cause not that I'm not gonna be listened to, but you could go to some other channel list and the exact same. Unless, you know, you give me the option to talk through things and figure things out and open up what I wanna get to as well. So I think that's the same thing with what I took into content. I was like, what do I enjoy this sport and why did I change what I'm doing? It's not that I was the best world tour writer, I was very far from it, but I have a, an experience at a different level and I enjoyed the relationship. So I was like, that's what is interesting to me. So, I've just focused a lot on any content I can. I want to be about relationships and how this works. You know, like my relationship with Neil and Envy, like that's what's interesting to me. And then the humanity of the sport is what actually draws people in or inspires and motivates more than the next, Hey, the widest wheel set, cuz that's, You can find that on the web. [00:18:46] Craig Dalton: quick, quick follow up on your dog since not everyone is familiar with Willie, although they should be. Just describe Willie and why he's got a little bit of notoriety in the cycling world these days. [00:18:58] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, Willie's probably the fastest, fastest known dog in the cycling world. No, but he's a long haired miniature din, looks like a mini golden retriever if you trying to picture it. And early on in the pandemic, I started riding with him when my girlfriend did runs and he just loved it. And it's kind of just grown, I mean, He's done rides as long as seven hours. He gets out, goes to the bathroom, goes back in the backpack, and we just ride. But he is like, you know, you got his shoulder over his head, over one of your shoulders and it's kind of like, it's great as a training partner also. Like, I'll go ride three hours and come pick him up for an hour at the end. And I don't have to talk to anybody, but I kind have someone they are with me, like a little training partner and no one yells at you on the bike path. So it's a win, win, win. [00:19:38] Craig Dalton: does Willie have a preference between road riding and gravel riding? [00:19:41] Alexey Vermeulen: He probably likes gravel more in Colorado cause he loves prairie dogs. He loves like, you know, hunting from, from up high. He's actually most into mountain biking, which I try to like ride trails before I take him there. But like, he knows when the goggle, he hates the goggles, but he knows when the goggles go on, it's like it's, there's gonna be branches in this face. It's gonna be time to focus. And he just like, he gets all four legs up on my shoulder, like a par. Just kinda like if there's someone in front of me, he is just like, his head is probably three or four inches in front of my face and just like, he's trying to just like, we have to get back to them. He just, I think he just loves the interactive nature of it. So I don't take him mountain biking that off and it's probably his favorite. [00:20:19] Craig Dalton: So podcasting is not the medium to really enjoy Willian, but I encourage the listener to follow you on Instagram cuz I I love it. Everybody loves it. Willie's a hero. [00:20:28] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. He makes everyone smile, which is a goal in life, so it's. [00:20:32] Craig Dalton: you also seem to have linked up with someone who is your, is your frequent video videographer partner, and that seems like be like a really interesting relationship to give us insight into your, your comings and goings and your career and your successes and your failure. [00:20:47] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, so that's, that's funny. So like, this is, that was something I started last year. So Avery stu, like he does all my, almost all my photo and video that's not through another company and even if it is but we just started, he DMed me when I was back racing Iceman one year, which is a big mountain bike racing in northern Michigan where I grew up. And we've just kind of weirdly just been on the same path. He moved out to, to Boulder about three months after I did. And I think we both have an understanding of what the other's job is to get done, right? I think there's a lot of cyclists who just expect, Hey, this car and video, this photographer will follow me and just take pictures. But like, that's not, it's not that easy, right? It's back and forth and, hey, this is the great, this is the gap. And it's annoying at times. And then the same as he understands I have to get work done right. So he'll just come, Hey, I'm gonna go out in the car with you for four hours. I'm gonna ask you to turn around six or seven times. But like, so we're able to create really cool content because we both are just in it cuz of our friendship less than money. If I were to like, like I've had people ask me this year, like, Oh, what do you pay? YouPay him hourly. I was like, Are you kidding me? That guy works more hourly with me than I think I could ever pay him in my entire life. But it's more, Cause it's friendship, right? It's something that just, it, the relationship is the reason that we work together, not anything else. And so this year going in, I was, that was kind of the goal. I was like, I went to companies and I was like, Hey, I, I want to try to bring Avery to all of the races because to me, First off, you'll get pictures after the race, which every company wants if you go do well, but more importantly, I want to show the relationship side of this. Right? And a really good example of that is if anyone's who made a video at Belgium Welfare Ride that I won this year in San Diego, but there's a moment in there about two thirds the way through where the person I had feeding me just it's kind of shit the bad that day. It's kind of struggling sometimes you just aren't on the same wavelength. They keep missing you. They don't see your jersey, whatever it is. And Avery literally just stopped filming and handed up two bottles, which was like, ch I would've dropped outta the race, very honestly. And that kind of like moment, that's a relationship thing, right? If I'm paying someone to take pictures and videos, they're gonna do that till the end of the day. But the relationship side of him knew, Hey, my friend is struggling. Feeding is more important than filming right now. And I will always cherish that because that's what matters more and that's what moves the the world go, not what makes the world go. [00:22:56] Craig Dalton: yeah. When you, when you were structuring your sponsorship agreements for this year, were you, did you specifically carve out like a dollar amount for him and. This is going to him to make sure he can get everywhere with me. [00:23:08] Alexey Vermeulen: it was hard. Concepts proven are easier to sell, right? So this year I would say I spent, I spent a good amount of my own money getting in places cuz I, I believe in it, right? And so if anyone's interested, like we have a YouTube channel just like Alexian Avery Which I think we've had, I think it'll be at the end, like 18 videos this year. But so I had, you know, a couple companies that I think believed in what I was doing, sign on, you know, like Envy for example. Neil was like, that's great that we need this, this is perfect. We want to add humanity to what we do already. And there's other companies that were less excited about it because the thought process and cycling has always been, we wanna pay for this direct photo shoot, not for this like big ambiguous season. But I think also everyone this year has come back and now, next year I've kind of stipulated it for everybody. Like, Hey, if we're working together, I really need to ask you to put a percentage of, like, I've pretty much said a percentage of my paycheck you need to add in on top of to pay for bravery to come to races cuz you've all benefited from it this year. And if you haven't then you need to show me where you didn't. Cuz it's just such a organic way of doing things, right? When it's more about the relationship of it and everyone's include. It's just fun. Like I took, I took Avery and our friend tra, we had two videographers at Sea Oder, and it was a blast, right? It was the three, two of us and Willie hanging out the biggest event all year, right? Like just, I don't know, like the bike race is the smallest portion of it, and that is, it's the biggest portion of my life, but it's, it matters least it's just the vehicles. All of us to go hang out at events and the community of it is what has growing, what I'm a part of. Right. [00:24:43] Craig Dalton: Yeah, that's a good point. I think for the outsider, just to understand gravel, it's not about who every section of the race and who's winning. It's about the overall experience. It's the pre rise, the shake down rides. The post ride hang out. That's what makes it so magic. [00:24:57] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. And like it's intoxicating, right? Like I think that is the coolest thing. I had a. I had a quote the other day about, you know, at some point in every race, the winner of the pro race is gonna struggle as much as the person finishing lasts. And I think that's beautiful, right? Like we're all riding on the same course and taking on these things and it's just, it's just about the different journey, right? The struggle is going to be different whether it's mental or physical or mechanical, but in the end, we're all gonna send up, end up sitting the same place, and that is something that never existed where I was at the road. [00:25:27] Craig Dalton: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I wanna get a little bit into the Grand Prix, but along those lines, the Grand Prix, I mean, I think people, listener's gonna know it's Park Mountain, bike Park gravel racing. As we think about it, when you, just to follow up on the sponsorship thread as you designed your season. Being aware of the Grand Prix and the requirements of having both a, a gravel bike and a proper mountain bike to race these races, how did you kind of figure that all out? Because I think you had alignment maybe with a gravel bike set up, and maybe the mountain bike was like, Oh shit, where am I gonna get one of those? [00:25:58] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, no, I think it's also, again, to start relationships, right? It's easy to, to leave the sponsorship thing and say, Oh, look at this. This company has all, all the bikes I need and this company doesn't. But to me, longevity of the company matters more than getting what you need. If I have to go buy a bike, I'm willing to but I was lucky enough to structure it, so, I ride road and gravel bikes from Envy, which is cool cause it's just a past relationship I've had since I left the road. And I signed on with Factor for Mountain Bikes, which it's funny cuz both of those companies launched their bikes for the first time this year. So it's been a chaotic year. But it's cool. I mean that's the, also the beauty of this is I feel like both companies in a weird way gain from knowledge that I learned of launching bike. Simple sides, right? And even if they're not the exact same discipline and it's a weird defined space there cause it doesn't really exist sometimes. , I think. I love that people can understand that and as long as it's like written down and talked about, nobody feels like they're losing out because it's just a, it's about growing the sport more than selling bikes all the time. [00:26:52] Craig Dalton: And how does the jukebox team fit into all this [00:26:57] Alexey Vermeulen: yeah. So I got a complicated setup this year. Yeah, so Jukebox is printing company in Vancouver. You know, stickers, business cards, you name it, posters we'll have many willy stickers to. If you're wondering but no, they, Loredo whos the company kind of wanted, he has an image entertainment in Canada and he wanted to grow this, like the community side of it. He supports Israel Cycling Academy on the world tour stage, but. He had this idea of, Hey, how can you tie athletes together with a title sponsor? Right? So we all have, if you look at someone like Phil Guyman is quote unquote on this team. Pretty much the only sponsor, Phil and I have the same is Jukebox and Phil's not racing, and I'm very ous racing focused right now. But the goal is that you kind of have this traveling community that fits into all disciplines that you couldn't find the corners of without. Alienating anybody. So I think there's five or six people now. All from different backgrounds. [00:27:48] Craig Dalton: And is there any sort of I mean, are you guys connected in any meaningful way? Like do you, do you train with Dylan Johnson here and there? [00:27:56] Alexey Vermeulen: Not really train cause we all live in different places, but like, even like big sugar, we're all gonna be in the same house. Just doing photo stuff and hanging out and I think it's been hard to, with co like as Covid was still tailing off, like, get everyone together. Cause I think that's the goal. Like there's a lot of talk of getting everyone together in, in Canada and, you know, doing a training camp and things like that. Which I hope happens next year, but this year it was very much focused on. These guys are racing. You know, I've seen Dylan and Ashton and Adam at every race because we're all doing the Grand Prix and that's how it goes. And then I've seen, I haven't seen Phil once this year, but hopefully that changes, you know? And then there's also people like you know, there's downhill cycle cross racers that I will probably never see cuz I don't do those things. [00:28:34] Craig Dalton: May, maybe Sea Otter, you [00:28:36] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, exactly. Yeah. See Otter hopefully. But yeah, it's been weird, but I've actually enjoyed it cuz you, the non-endemic side of the sport is like, when I talk about enjoying the business side and figuring out relationships, it's where it becomes more fun because it takes work and homework to actually figure out how to actually benefit that company. [00:28:53] Craig Dalton: Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So onto the Grand Prix, I mean, presumably you found out about this short towards the tail end of last year and. Getting an invite to participate in the series was a big commitment. Obviously, there's six races on the calendar, half mountain bike, half gravel bike. It was really gonna have to take the sort of cornerstone position in your calendar, I presume, for the year if you were gonna intend on being successful. [00:29:19] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. In a lifetime, Grand prs been kind of, I probably went into it a little more relaxed than I should have. I. Was excited about racing it, but also cognizant of how it can kind of, it's a long season and mentally it can really drain, drain you. So, you know, going into c was probably a little undercooked and like kind of focused on just building throughout the season and being as consistent as I could. Back then in April I was like, Oh, I think you can finish top 10 in every race and finish in the podium. I don't think that's true. I think it'd be more consistent than that. And I also don't think I, anyone ever thought Kegan was gonna be as dominant as he has been. If in hindsight I probably would've tried to peak a little more for different races, but I've had this thought process of just being very consistent throughout the year. Not really peaking for anything, just trying to be fit and be mentally have a lot of mental freedom to, to not feel like I'm ever pressured. And so from, I didn't start racing until April cause that was kind of the goal. I did one race in Michigan, very rbe before Sea Otter, but otherwise was pretty much. Very fresh. And then throughout the year, I've probably taken almost a month off the bike throughout the year, just finding that balance between things, right? Maybe it's not always off the bike, but not worrying about training. You know? 10 days before Leadville went to watch my girlfriend compete in the Commonwealth Games, which was incredible and. Maybe lost me half a percent, but like mentally, I had this space to go from Leadville straight into like this very different block to get ready for the final races. I think that's the biggest thing about this is I've, throughout the last six months or seven months said, Okay, here's my calendar, here's the races, and if it's a mountain bike race, I'm gonna spend per most of my time on that bike before the event and do. Workouts that affect that, but hopefully hold this fitness and just kind of changed little bits to be ready for different things. Got a big climbing race in Utah. Okay. Do some longer threshold efforts. And then the minute Leadville, like in Leadville is obviously a big training camp just to be ready for altitude. And the minute Leadville finish it was like, okay, full on three to five minute efforts, Endurance Doesn't matter anymore. And that's, that is somewhat the beautiful thing is once you get through unbound, If you have like cycling such a build sport year after year that you can kind of hold endurance most of the year. I don't have to really focus on that during the week and I can turn a lot of my rides into like, Hey, how hard can I go? Because that's what these races become. Like if we wanna talk numbers like Schwam again, the two hour mountain bike sprint we just did was like 330 normalized for two hours, just like it was, it just on the whole day. And it's like something I dreamed of, but we haven't done it all year. [00:31:45] Craig Dalton: It was such a gear shift just as a fan of the sport. To see everybody now have to do like a two hour event, like what the hell? [00:31:51] Alexey Vermeulen: I loved it. Yeah, and then just like, not to jump away from the grand pretty quickly, but I think that was something that's interesting about my background is there's a lot of really strong guys in the Grand Prix. Guys that I thought were gonna stick out and are probably, are, are coming around like Locklin. Alex have had some, both of 'em have had some bad luck, but Rob and even Dark Horse, in my opinion, Pete Stat, you have a lot of guys that come from a road background and have the. To do well at all these events. But I think moving two years earlier than a lot of those guys has made a difference for me. Cuz dude, I struggle a lot with the technical side of the sport on the dirt because it's just different on the road. You just expect you, you find lines and that's it. And, There's a flow to it. Mountain biking and gravel riding's a lot more. Like, you kind of like, Hey, you're gonna slide sideways and you're gonna find your edge and then you're gonna keep moving. And it's so foreign. And I felt like I really struggled for the two years before this and kind of found my feet at the right time with the Grand Prix. People always act like, like for example, Leadville as a road race, mountain bike, race. Dude, I disagree. Like if when you're going 35 down power line on a hard tail with the, with guys that are pure mountain bike, You have to be able to handle your bike. [00:32:58] Craig Dalton: sure. Yeah. It, I mean, I, and it depends on the, the weather that particular year, the year I did it, it was pouring with rain, which took another different skill set. I mean, people were just absolutely falling apart during that event. Yeah. Speaking of, I mean, I guess since this is gonna publish in early October, we've got one race remaining. You're in second place in the Grand Prix. Keegan's obviously been crushing it all year, but I think there are, A couple people within range that if he had a horrible day, like something drastic could happen in the results. [00:33:33] Alexey Vermeulen: Kegan's theoretically safe now because he can drop a race and he's done so well. So Ke Kegan has won the, won the Grand Prix now but second through, Well, it's just because, it's just because he can drop a race. So theoretically he could not, he has to show up, but he. He can have his worst result and his worst result right now is fourth, which is insane. His worst result is fourth at Schwam again after he crashed. So if he drops big sugar and finishes 45th, it still doesn't matter cause he has more points than I do right now. But yeah, it'll be interesting. I mean, big sugar being in Batonville is like, it's known for sharp rocks, right? It's a, it's gonna be kind of a race of attrition, Put it all out there, but also be intelligent about it. For me, I'm definitely gonna err on the side of insurance, you know, like we talked about, inserts a little bit, little extra sealant. But I've never, I've tried to never go into any of these races thinking about the Grand Prix because if, like, if you race to win, you'll be up there. I can't think about where Cole is or Pete or Russell like doesn't help. I enjoy racing my bike too, so I think, yeah, I mean theoretically all of them I think up to seventh could theoretically pass me. I guess I haven't really done math cause it's kind of hard, like Cole didn't race unbound, so he doesn't have a drop race. So like if he does worse than my tent at Crusher. He can't beat me. But, you know, it's, it's so, it's really up in the air until you finish. And that's been cool about the point system in a way for me. Yeah, it's hard to say. I'm like, for the first time this year, nervous. Cause I've really tried to not think about the Grand Prix until this point because it's just, it's so up in the air and you have one bad day. Like, I pulled my front trailer cable out at Crusher. Like, so weird things can happen to anybody. Right. [00:35:09] Craig Dalton: Yeah. [00:35:10] Alexey Vermeulen: But yeah, I, I will say that I'm happy. That I was somewhat a mountain biker's, turf in the mud for two hours in Wisconsin. And I, I fared. And so I think we're a little bit more to my benefit in Bentonville. [00:35:24] Craig Dalton: Yeah, it's, it's, it's got so many punchy climbs in addition to kind of the, the big potential rock hazards there. It will be interesting from a racing perspective, like who's gonna go all in early? Does it stay together? Like, how are you gonna turn the screws to each other? I'm excited. [00:35:41] Alexey Vermeulen: I'm stoked. I mean, I think it's, you're mainly gonna see guys like Pete that is in fourth and Russell is in fifth, try to make moves because like, at least until we get to the end, like racing wise to win the race, I have no reason to do much before then. But it's also easy to say till you get it in that moment and it's pissing rain or something, weird's happening and just becomes full on chaos for five hours. So, yeah, I don't know. It's, it's kind of, it's weird and everyone's taking different paths to get there too. You know, some guys are still on mountain bikes. I kind of came back and immediately started doing, you know, hard, harder efforts to kind of get ready for a sprint finish. And but yeah, I mean, I, like in the end, yes, I wanna finish on the, putting the gram pretty, but I, I kind of wanna win big sugar, like love kicking to death. I would like him to not win another fricking race. So that, that would be the, the real goal on top. Cherry on top, like finishing on the podium. Grand PR is great, but de that kid's been dominant this year, so that's probably the biggest goal for me. [00:36:33] Craig Dalton: and, and best of luck to him this coming weekend in the world. So that's just insane that he's on that team right now. [00:36:39] Alexey Vermeulen: I just, yeah, I just, I love that there is a transfer between gravel and road because you, you do have a lot of guys come over here that I think think they, because they're really strong on the road, they could just jump in. Like you look at Nick Tetra at Leadville, obviously he is, that altitude's not used to it, but it's not the same. You gotta be able to put the whole package together to do a lot of these races and to get through a whole season of it. I think the Grand Prix has been the hardest in that sense, right? That it's pretty much one race a month and that. to peak for six races every month. You kind of have to pick and choose or just be consistent. Yeah, and I think the only person do it perfectly this year is been Kegan and I guess perfection was lost at Swan again, but still, I, I would still say he was perfect. [00:37:16] Craig Dalton: We'll see. We'll see after big sugar. [00:37:18] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. [00:37:19] Craig Dalton: That's exciting. Well, I'm super excited to ra watch that race, as I said, and hopefully I'm gonna be there myself to watch the action first hand, or at least from way, way behind you guys. [00:37:29] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah. It, it, it'll be fun. And Bentonville puts on a p puts on a party every time too, which I love. Right. They so much. It's all about cycling in that community right now. And I every, it's intoxicating every time you go there. [00:37:42] Craig Dalton: A hundred percent. I wanted to take a step back and talk about your other sort of big, I don't know if you call it your personal project, but it's, I think it's just been a big part of your journey the last couple years to Leadville and the from, from the ground up project. Can you talk a little bit about that? [00:37:55] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, I think I'm really bad about just giving you a quick synopsis. So I'll start. There is, so from the ground up is we take three riders who haven't been on a bike or haven't raced before to Leadville the hardest mountain of race in the nation, in my opinion. And the goal is just to make the sport less intimidating, more accessible through showing. The questions and vulnerabilities of people who are going to struggle at the event, let alone the pros. Cuz pros are stupid and don't show it even though we all struggle. So it started in 2021 was the first season we did, the second season this year. And I say season cuz it's a TV series on the back end. But it's really, it's this pathway just learning how. How hard cycling can be, whether it's lingo or training or getting into this sport financially. And it's, it's been something I've been super passionate about and takes a lot of my time from January to August. But it validates everything. And the reason I left the road, it's something that like, it's easy to talk about making positive impacts on people, but also very, very difficult to do it while racing as a professional. And I, for the first two years, for 20 18, 20 19, I struggled with that. Like I would say it to companies and then you get to racist and you're like, Dude, I'm getting flogged as it is, like let alone trying to stand out here on my feet all day in the sun talking to people. And so it's been really cool to see like Covid brought this whole new way of people into the sport and it allowed this access to. People that, you know, literally didn't get on their bike because of Lance or Greg. They got on their bike because they're gym closed. The need of mental sanity. And that is a very different pathway than anything we'd ever seen before. You know, all of a sudden cycling was like a marathon, you know, It was, it was just to do it. It was just to accomplish something. And I think there was a little bit of a disconnect because of how elitist cycling can. that we struggled to inform people that, hey, maybe Unbound isn't the best first race, you know, Or, Hey, maybe you should figure out how to change a tube before you take on this gravel race. But in all reality, it still became this big question of how do we keep these people in the sport and make it exciting? And that's what from the ground up has kind of been, you know, it's trying to show that normal everyday people can take on the hardest thing in the world or the hardest thing in the cycling world, in my opinion. Then go on and you know, even if they don't finish, they can go on and take on normal races and it's never gonna feel very hard. Right. Cuz yeah, you do the 100 at Unbound, it's hard, but it's not at 10,000 feet, it doesn't have 11,000 feet of climbing. It's not with the sense there's so much that that grows and I would equate finishing the Leadville 100 to, to doing an Ironman and we have multiple on film being like, Oh, I finished two Ironmans and this was way harder. Cuz it's just, it's so mentally taxing, you know. A lot of it is mental, more than physical, and that's really hard. [00:40:28] Craig Dalton: A hundred percent. Like my personal experience there was I was, I was about ready to quit and honestly, like, I think had my wife been at the feed station before Columbine, I might have quit, but I was like, Well, I don't have a ride home so I might as well continue going. Unfortunately, and miraculously, by the time I came back down, I was feeling good and I was like, I can make it. [00:40:50] Alexey Vermeulen: But that's how life is too, right? Like that's the coolest part of this is at the same time I go and race my race, I don't know how they're doing. And at the some point on Leadville, if you don't know it's out and back course. So I end up hopefully crossing them if their days are going all right. And that's just so cool to me, right? That you could have these people taking on something the first time very much in the understanding of how impossible it is and still towing the. That's motivating and inspiring. Right? And like cycling is made for everybody of all sizes, of all shapes, of all anything you want to name it, right? But we don't show that. We don't say it. It's very hard to talk about because it is primarily white is primarily male and you have to have money to be into it. And I think as that changes, we all. Gain value, like the sport is more important and it doesn't have to be about racing. You can be any type of rider, right? We have, in our first season, Shauna, you know, she finished, she stopped Leadville, I think at the Twin Lakes aid station was like, that's it. But no, went and took on like fat bike nationals in northern Wisconsin and like a different side of the sport. She's never wanna race laville again, but bikes can be anything. You can go become fricking bike commuter if you want. That's still, that vehicle of the bicycle is the cool part of the project. [00:42:01] Craig Dalton: Where can people watch the project? [00:42:04] Alexey Vermeulen: First season was on YouTube the second season I was on outside. But it's not behind a pay wall, so, [00:42:09] Craig Dalton: Yep, [00:42:09] Alexey Vermeulen: And there will be a third season. I just, first you heard it first here. But no, the hard part is not to cut you off. Like the hard part is figuring out how do you make it less overwhelming? Cause every year you're like, Wow, this is really sadistic. Why are we doing this to people? [00:42:23] Craig Dalton: Yeah, it's hard to imagine like someone not just off the couch, but just off the couch wanting to do Leadville. I mean, there's, when they're submitting their application to you, they're submitting it to do Leadville, so at some level they've decided they're willing to do it. [00:42:38] Alexey Vermeulen: but they don't understand. That's the beautiful part of it, right? They don't have any idea. And there's this process of like growing up and six weeks out we go to like a Leadville training camp, and they get to feel the altitude for their first time and ride the course over three days. [00:42:50] Craig Dalton: Yeah. [00:42:51] Alexey Vermeulen: And it is, I cannot tell you how like just wide-eyed, like what the did I sign up for? And, but none of them quit cuz they're, they've invested so much of their life for the last five months into it. They're like, Shit, I'm here. May as well. [00:43:06] Craig Dalton: The cards fall. [00:43:07] Alexey Vermeulen: yeah, I mean that's definitely the balance side of it that I've enjoyed is being able to do something like that. Cause you could never do that when you're racing on the road. [00:43:13] Craig Dalton: Yeah, it's a great, it's a great, I don't know, series I think was the right word that you used. It's a great series. I watched it on outside tv. Super powerful to, I mean, I'm, I'm always impressed when anybody takes on a journey that's bigger than themselves, whether it's a marathon or a gravel race or whatever it is. There's something absolutely admirable about someone who's willing to tackle something like that, knowing that, like, we may finish, we may not, but I'm gonna do something huge. [00:43:41] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, and I think that's the takeaway, right? Is that hopefully like there is a connection between cycling and life and. We have those rolling hills, You come down Columbine and all of a sudden you feel okay again. And that's the reality of all of this. Like most of the days you train, you feel like shit. That is the majority of cycling. Like even a professional athlete, 99.9% of the time is just bullshit. Get out the door, maybe convince yourself to get a coffee and stop for a couple minutes, but like get the work done and move on cuz you don't feel great every day. And I [00:44:07] Craig Dalton: I think someone said, said like, if you're not, if you're, if you're feeling good, better than 30% of the time, you're probably not training well. [00:44:15] Alexey Vermeulen: Yeah, it's true and that, but I think that's not, because that's not what we, that's not what anyone shows on social media or anything else. Right. It's always the good time. So yeah, my advice Could yourself, a wiener dog and ride your bike? [00:44:26] Craig Dalton: I love it, which is the perfect note to end on. Wiener dog promotion, which by the way, I will have another one if I didn't already have two dogs, and that's a long story. We would have a wiener dog cuz that's my wife's jam right [00:44:38] Alexey Vermeulen: yeah. They're perfect. The right at the right size. That's the, that's the true goal. [00:44:43] Craig Dalton: Yeah, my actual golden retriever does not fit well on my back and in a backpack, [00:44:48] Alexey Vermeulen: See, but that is like my goal after my, after my career is I've told my girlfriend I wanna get a golden retriever, not another wiener. So I could just be like, Oh, this one didn't grow. [00:44:55] Craig Dalton: I love it. I love it. Thanks so much for the time, man. It's great to catch up. Good luck at Big Sugar. Hopefully I see you there and good luck at Belgium Waffle Ride Michigan. I know that will be a, a great one for you being a Michigan. [00:45:07] Alexey Vermeulen: No, thank you so much. It's, it's exciting. And Yeah, just hope the sport keeps growing and thanks for talking through it. [00:45:12] Craig Dalton: Of course we'll see you, my man. [00:45:14] Alexey Vermeulen: See ya. [00:45:16] Craig Dalton: That's going to do it for this week's edition of the gravel ride podcast. Huge. Thanks to Alexi for joining us and big, thanks to athletic greens and ag one for sponsoring this week's episode. If you're interested in connecting with me, I encourage you to join the ridership. Simply visit www.theridership.com. That's a free global cycling community where you can connect with gravel athletes from around the world. It's also your straight line to having a conversation with me, making episodes, suggestions, et cetera. If you're able to support the show, please visit buy me a coffee.com/the gravel ride. Or ratings and reviews are hugely appreciated. It really helps in me connecting with additional gravel cyclist. Until next time here's to finding some dirt under your wheels

Bristol History Podcast
Your Bristol Life Episode 5 - Bianchi's Food Group by Steven Mitchell

Bristol History Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 3, 2022 14:51


Your Bristol Life is a new series of five podcasts shining a light on underrepresented aspects of Bristol's history. This BCfm series was made with the Bristol Cable, Bristol History Podcast and In The Dark. *** Bianchi's Food Group by Steven Mitchell *** During Covid and post-Brexit, food, hospitality and catering became acknowledged as an essential, infrastructural part of communities all over Great Britain. Food often brings diverse communities together. This audio piece is a brief “listen in” on the sounds of an uniquely Bristol restaurant group that values community and is an integral part of Bristol's local food ecology: Bianchis. Their authenticity and innovation are part of what makes Bristol one of the most exciting cities to eat out. In this piece, we listen to a family that has become an integral thread in the multicultural fabric of a great city, by putting love into everything. From the intimate to the celebratory, even the perfect Napoli-level pizza. Delivered on a cycle? No problem! Italian marble supplied by a local stone company? Sure! Taken away through a slot in the window? Would you like that as a slice? Steven Mitchell speaks to CEO Dominic Bianchi Borel and Ripiena head chef Joseph Harvey. Featured artwork by Jon Trace

Living the Dream
Grind on Something you Love with John Bianchi

Living the Dream

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2022 42:44


Check it out on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/33Z4VsE Check it out on Apple: https://apple.co/3AHc2DT John Bianchi has more than a passion for the short-term rental industry. In his words, “[He's] obsessed with it!” John is known in the industry as The Airbnb Data Guy. In 2020, he sold his successful Chicago-based STR management business. John has developed a unique data-driven approach to evaluating vacation rental properties and for the past few years has been advising investors and owners on how to identify the right properties to buy and to maximize their revenue. Dreams: Consulting Company Software he's building Consistently stay at it building his business into what it can be How you can Help: Just come and chat with him. Favorite Book, Movie, or Podcast: Favorite Book is Atlas Shrugged Contact them at: Call - https://calendly.com/pointanalytics/15min Email - Hello@pointanalytics.co Website: https://reports.pointanalytics.co/sales-page1646591520576 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnwvtvqsfFG2S1d5x5B4HQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathanantoniobianchi/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@john_airbnbdata

Living the Dream
Grind on Something you Love with John Bianchi

Living the Dream

Play Episode Listen Later Oct 2, 2022 42:44


Check it out on Spotify: https://spoti.fi/33Z4VsE Check it out on Apple: https://apple.co/3AHc2DT John Bianchi has more than a passion for the short-term rental industry. In his words, “[He's] obsessed with it!” John is known in the industry as The Airbnb Data Guy. In 2020, he sold his successful Chicago-based STR management business. John has developed a unique data-driven approach to evaluating vacation rental properties and for the past few years has been advising investors and owners on how to identify the right properties to buy and to maximize their revenue. Dreams: Consulting Company Software he's building Consistently stay at it building his business into what it can be How you can Help: Just come and chat with him. Favorite Book, Movie, or Podcast: Favorite Book is Atlas Shrugged Contact them at: Call - https://calendly.com/pointanalytics/15min Email - Hello@pointanalytics.co Website: https://reports.pointanalytics.co/sales-page1646591520576 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHnwvtvqsfFG2S1d5x5B4HQ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jonathanantoniobianchi/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@john_airbnbdata

Las noticias de EL PAÍS
¿Por qué Tamara Falcó siempre gana?

Las noticias de EL PAÍS

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 30, 2022 22:02


Hay un rostro que esta semana no deja de aparecer en las revistas, la televisión y hasta los periódicos. El de Tamara Falcó, famosa de cuna. Ahora a sus 40 años es Marquesa de Griñón y estrella de realities, pero lo único que ha cambiado es que ha tomado de su madre, Isabel Preysler, las riendas del negocio familiar: contar su vida. Lo próximo que pretendía rentabilizar era su boda. Pero que se hicieran públicas las infidelidades de su prometido ha hecho que todos los medios, tradicionales y modernos, se lanzaran a apuntarle con los focos. Una exposición que ella sigue monetizando y aprovechando para lanzar mensajes ultraconservadores con su voz infantil y su naturalidad pretendida que sorprendentemente enganchan a todos los espectadores. Hablamos de Tamara Falcó con Carlos Córdoba, Luz Sánchez-Mellado y Martín Bianchi.   Créditos: Episodio realizado por Bárbara Ayuso  y José Juan Morales Presenta Íñigo Domínguez Dirección de Silvia Cruz Lapeña Edición de Ana Ribera Diseño de sonido de Nicolás Tsabertidis Sintonía de Jorge Magaz

Tech&Co
L'intégrale de Tech & Co du mercredi 28 septembre

Tech&Co

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 86:02


Mercredi 28 septembre, François Sorel a reçu Frédéric Bianchi, journaliste à BFM Business, François Oudot, président et fondateur de Bump, David El Sayegh, directeur général adjoint de la Sacem, Faïza Younsi et Etienne Bracq, journalistes à BFM Business, Antoine Nogier, président de Sun'Agri, Hélène Mérillon, directrice générale de Nextory France, Vincent Gunther, cofondateur de Bookinou, Sabrina Quagliozzi, correspondante BFM Business à New York, Nicolas Prévitali, directeur des opérations chauffeurs chez Uber, et Olivier Emsalem, directeur B2B Europe de Free2Move, Adèle James, cofondatrice de Phagos, Ilan Palacci, cofondateur d'Ever Dye, Paul Rinaudo, président de ADLIN Science, et Romain Chayot, cofondateur de Standing Ovation, dans l'émission Tech & Co sur BFM Business. Retrouvez l'émission du lundi au jeudi et réécoutez la en podcast.

Byers & Co. Interviews
Gina Bianchi, Elizabeth Gephart, & Jacob Busey- September 28, 2022

Byers & Co. Interviews

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 22:59


September 28, 2022- Gina Bianchi, VP for Millikin Alumni Development, Dr. Elizabeth Gephart, Assistant Professor of Millikin's School of Nursing, & Jacob Busey, 2nd year Master's entry into Nursing Practice student, joined Byers & Co to talk about Millikin's nursing program, and the damage the pandemic caused to the nursing field.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments
Laura Rubinstein, Debbie Hoffman & John Bianchi on Thought Leader Life Credibility Specials (MLP 182)

Mitchell Levy Presents AHA Moments

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2022 21:43


Get to know these successful thought leaders and find out how they present themselves and their crafts as experts in their fields. Laura Rubinstein is a social media marketing consultant, speaker, and trainer. She started as a young entrepreneur with a passion to help business owners skyrocket their bottom line using relationship marketing. Using digital media and relationship-based marketing strategies, Laura grows your leads, customer base, and brand visibility. Her agency handles the strategy and implementation. She also trains, consults, speaks, and writes about social media as well as marketing. She applies solid marketing principles, business concepts, and the latest technology to build clientele and expand the business. If you're feeling like you're #Invisible online, you should reach out to Laura Rubinstein by visiting her website at https://transformtoday.com/ or through https://linkedin.com/in/laurarubinstein/.  Debbie Hoffman is the CEO and founder of Power-Up! Your Follow-Up. She works closely with relationship-driven entrepreneurs, coaches, and network marketers who are letting potential clients slip through the cracks because they don't have a reliable follow-up system in place. She helps them create a step-by-step blueprint for their business and convert more prospects into long-term clients without being salesy. With her proven follow-up success system, she coaches her clients through every stage of the sales process. If you are running a business and are not closing many sales or don't know how to #FollowUp, reach out to Debbie Hoffman by visiting her website, https://www.powerupyourfollowup.com, and going to https://www.linkedin.com/in/debbieahoffman/.  John Bianchi is a marketing and business consultant, partner at Bos Klein, and vice president at BOS Digital. He renders highly specialized, data-driven, three-stage marketing strategies for clients. He brings together experts in the fields of media, design, communications, and technology. He primarily helps small and mid-sized companies increase their market exposure while boosting their ROI and cutting costs. He is also passionate about uplifting the integrity of creative processes, to provide his clients with relevant tools that effectively establish cultural codes. If you have a product or service but don't know how to represent or bring it to the market, reach out to John Bianchi by going to https://www.linkedin.com/in/bianchijohn/.    Global Credibility Expert, Mitchell Levy is a TEDx speaker and international bestselling author of over 60 books. As The AHA Guy at AHAthat (https://ahathat.com), he helps to extract the genius from your head in a two-three hour interview so that his team can ghostwrite your book, and publish it, distribute it, and make you an Amazon bestselling author in four months or less. He is an accomplished Entrepreneur who has created twenty businesses in Silicon Valley including four publishing companies that have published over 800 books. He's provided strategic consulting to over one hundred companies and has been chairman of the board of a NASDAQ-listed company. Mitchell has been happily married for thirty years and regularly spends four weeks in Europe with family and friends. Visit https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ for an archive of all the podcast episodes. Connect to Mitchell Levy on: Credibility Nation YouTube Channel: https://bit.ly/3kGA1LI Credibility Nation LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/credibilitynation/ Mitchell Levy Present AHA Moments: https://mitchelllevy.com/mitchelllevypresents/ Thought Leader Life: https://thoughtleaderlife.com Twitter: @Credtabulous Instagram: @credibilitynation Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Burn This World
#57 - Chris Bianchi

Burn This World

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 47:37


Chris Bianchi is a one stop shop when it comes to the music industry. He is a manager, musician, booking agent, promoter & so much more. Sit down with us as we talk all things music with him as he pulls back the curtain to show how he gets all these things done. - Follow on Instagram: Chris // Jonny McBee- Support Burn This World: Patreon- Join the Burn This World Discord: Discord

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 9/27/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 7:10


Hoy por Hoy
Hoy por Hoy | Magazine

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 88:52


El director de Modelo 77, Alberto Rodríguez, invitado especial del Comando N para hablarnos de su última película sobre la fuga de la cárcel Modelo de Barcelona. Nuño Domínguez nos habla con Federico Martinón sobre las ventajas de la música en los genes y las enfermedades. Martín Bianchi nos da todos los detalles de la última hora de la crónica social y la ruptura Falcó-Onieva. 

Hoy por Hoy
15 minutos de fama | Lo de Tamara

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 27, 2022 13:56


Cronología y análisis del caso Tamara-Onieva y edición especial del diccionario castellano-corazón (¿qué diablos significa "dejar atrás la perfección mundana"? ¿Y "diseñador de coches y empresario de la noche"?). Si a Chenoa su momento chándal ("no lo estoy pasando bien") le hizo ganarse el afecto de todo un país, ¿conseguirá la marquesa ampliar aún más su marca personal con este momento "amiga date cuenta" que atraviesa? Martín Bianchi pone los puntos (en forma de corazón) sobre las íes.  

Les Déviations
Anne Bianchi : « Ce qui a vraiment changé dans ma vie ! »

Les Déviations

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2022 9:43


3 ans après sa première vidéo, elle témoigne une deuxième fois pour notre média. "Ma vie n'avait pas de sens pour moi, j'étais bien occupée mais il y avait quelque chose d'automatique", nous disait-elle à l'époque.Aujourd'hui, Anne Bianchi est beaucoup plus épanouie et alignée avec elle-même : "je peux dire non à ce que je ne suis pas, à ce que je n'aime pas... à ce qui n'est pas moi."Vous avez découvert le témoignage poignant d'Anne en janvier 2019. Souvenez-vous de son parcours, d'ancienne directrice de magazine féminin à professeure de Yoga Kundalini. Sa vidéo aussi émouvante qu'inspirante a été vue plus de sept millions de fois. Trois ans après, qu'est-elle devenue ? Que lui a réellement apporté son changement de vie ? Est-elle restée fidèle à ses choix ? Ne nourrit-elle aucun regret ? Qu'est ce qui a, avec le recul, changé aussi financièrement ? Au moment de notre rencontre, Anne était en pleine transition professionnelle. A l'époque, elle nous expliquait que son ancienne vie l'a poussée constamment à répondre toujours par l'affirmative. Aujourd'hui, Anne est professeure de Yoya et sexologue.. Elle a appris à dire "non" et à mieux cerner ses besoins. Elle a remplacé son "oui" automatique par un "oui" authentique. Désormais, elle reçoit régulièrement du public au sein de son cabinet. Totalement épanouie, elle ne regrette en rien sa reconversion et encourage même à sauter le pas. Elle explique très clairement qu'en prenant le risque de perdre, elle a fini par gagner car elle a acquis "le pouvoir de se réaliser". "Même avec la trouille au ventre, j'ai posé des actes d'autonomie". Cet épisode est le premier d'une série : coup d'oeil dans le rétro. Ne ratez aucun épisode. Alors, immergez avec nous dans son nouvel univers.Soutenez ce podcast http://supporter.acast.com/les-deviations. Hébergé par Acast. Visitez acast.com/privacy pour plus d'informations.

Tech&Co
L'intégrale de Tech & Co du lundi 26 septembre

Tech&Co

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 26, 2022 47:10


Lundi 26 septembre, François Sorel a reçu Frédéric Bianchi, journaliste BFM Business, Julien Neuville, PDG de Nouvelles Écoutes, Félix Bonduelle, Président et cofondateur de Javelot, Nicolas Carlési, Président et Fondateur de IADYS, Louis Ajacques, Cofondateur de Spayr, Romain Etay, Cofondateur de Klara, Faiza Younsi, journaliste économique à BFM Business et Étienne Bracq, journaliste à BFM Business, dans l'émission Tech & Co sur BFM Business. Retrouvez l'émission du lundi au jeudi et réécoutez la en podcast.

Radio 24 Podcast
Off Topic - Comandano i colletti bianchi

Radio 24 Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2022


Questo è Off Topic, il programma di Radio 24 dedicato ai luoghi comuni. In ogni episodio Riccardo Poli, Alessandro Longoni e Beppe Salmetti giocano con un luogo comune tirandone fuori tutto il meglio e il peggio insieme ai loro ospiti.Regia di Andrea Roccabella.Vuoi rivedere tutte le puntate anche in video? Scopri subito qui il canale Yotube di Off Topic - Radio 24

Chairgatin' Podcast
S:04 | E:35 - Jordan Bianchi

Chairgatin' Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2022 62:22


Rattlesnake and Dakota are joined by Jordan Bianchi from The Athletic to recap Bristol, discuss silly season team changes and what lies ahead for NASCAR.

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 9/20/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 9:03


Hoy por Hoy
15 minutos de fama | Resaca de funeral

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 17:11


Le sacamos punta a todas las imágenes del gran funeral de ayer, incluida la de la reina Sofía con su móvil al cuello (¿será una periodista encubierta?" se pregunta Martín Bianchi) y avanzamos en nuestro curso de corazón-castellano. Hoy: ¿qué significa "Kate Middleton le hace un homenaje a los abuelos de su marido"". Pues que ha heredado un buen joyero.

Hoy por Hoy
Hoy por Hoy | Bob Pop y los hombres que molaban, las plantas de interior y las apariencias con María Barranco | Magazine

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 20, 2022 91:40


Bob Pop nos hace una lista de los hombres que antes molaban y ahora no, como Woody Allen O Miguel Bosé. Rafa Cabeleira y Galder Reguera nos hablan de las celebraciones futbolísticas y en la vida. Eduardo Barba nos da la clase de jardinería sobre plantas de interior. María Barranco repasa las apariencias del cine y Martín Bianchi repasa los hitos del funeral del siglo. 

Ozarks at Large Stories
Pat Bianchi Returns to NWA

Ozarks at Large Stories

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 19, 2022 14:36


Pat Bianchi has played with jazz great likes Pat Martino and Joey DeFrancesco and realeased seven of his own records. The jazz organist will be in Fayetteville this weekend and talked with the host of Shades of Jazz, Robert Ginsburg, about his music.

il posto delle parole
Enzo Bianchi "Festival Filosofia" Misericordia

il posto delle parole

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2022 22:12


Enzo Bianchi"Festival Filosofia"https://www.festivalfilosofia.it/Festival Filosofia, SassuoloDomenica 18 settembre 2022, ore 18:00Lezione Magistrale di Enzo Bianchi"Misericordia"Pratiche di giustizia e di perdonoLa misericordia, intesa come cura e amore del prossimo, è sovraordinata alla stessa legge? Quale nesso lega le pratiche di giustizia e la disposizione al perdono?Enzo Bianchi è il fondatore della Comunità monastica di Bose, di cui è stato priore fino al gennaio 2017. È una delle voci più ascoltate dell'esperienza religiosa nell'epoca contemporanea. Esperto di mistica e di spiritualità, è autore di commenti a libri della Bibbia (Genesi, Cantico dei Cantici, Apocalisse). Tra le sue opere recenti: Ama il prossimo tuo (con M. Cacciari, Bologna 2011); Fede e fiducia (Torino 2013); Dono e perdono (Torino 2014); Raccontare l'amore. Parabole di uomini e donne (Milano 2015); Spezzare il pane. Gesù a tavola e la sapienza del vivere (Torino 2015); Gesù e le donne (Torino 2016); Ero straniero e mi avete ospitato (Milano 2017); La vita e i giorni. Sulla vecchiaia (Bologna 2018); «Non muri ma ponti». Per una cultura dell'incontro e del dialogo (con N. Galantini e G. Ravasi, Cinisello Balsamo 2018); L'acqua è insegnata dalla sete. Riflessioni sull'errore umano (con P. Coda, A. Deho', F. Occhetto, A. Potente, L. Verdi, Torino 2022)."Casa della Madia"https://casadellamadia.org/Scopo di questo sito è aiutare Enzo Bianchi a realizzare il progetto Casa della Madia.Ciò significa raccogliere i fondi necessari a pagare il mutuo decennale acceso per l'acquisto della Casa, nonché per portare a termine la sua ristrutturazione e renderla il luogo che merita di essere, a beneficio di moltissime persone.https://casadellamadia.org/donations/donation-form-2/IL POSTO DELLE PAROLEAscoltare fa Pensarehttps://ilpostodelleparole.it/

Tech&Co
L'intégrale de Tech & Co du jeudi 15 septembre

Tech&Co

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2022 97:42


Jeudi 15 septembre, François Sorel a reçu Frédéric Bianchi, journaliste BFM Business, Romain Revellat, cofondateur et directeur général d'Happytal, Marc Bringuier, expert réalité augmentée & technologies immersives pour l'Europe chez PTC, Louis Jeannin, Cofondateur de Foxar, Adrien Sadaka, cofondateur et directeur général de Timescope, Christophe Mathevet, fondateur de Tellnoo, Asma Mhalla, spécialiste en Tech Policy et enseignante à Sciences Po Paris, Cédric Ingrand, directeur général d'Heavyweight Studios et producteur/podcasteur, Jérôme Colombain, journaliste et créateur de podcast, et Lisa Debernard, journaliste BFM Business, dans l'émission Tech & Co sur BFM Business. Retrouvez l'émission du lundi au jeudi et réécoutez la en podcast.

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 9/14/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2022 8:36


Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast
EP 49 – Is AirBNB What Its Cracked Up To Be? Check the Data with John Bianchi

Collecting Keys - Real Estate Investing Podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2022 41:23


Episode 49If you're a short-term rental investor looking to find the most profitable Airbnb locations around the world, this episode is for you!Today, we talk to none other than ‘The Airbnb Data Guy', John Bianchi, about approaching Airbnb rentals and analytics from a pure data standpoint. John shares his advice on finding what he calls the Airbnb ‘sweet spot' and offers some insight into his process of sorting through Airbnb data to find highly profitable properties anywhere.You'll learn the three steps to Airbnb success and how you can make the Airbnb algorithm work for you, plus a whole lot more. If you're an Airbnb skeptic, today's episode will show you how to leverage short-term rentals to gain experience and avoid some of the risks and liabilities that come with it so that you can start earning passive income today!All data. No fluff. You won't want to miss this insightful conversation with John Bianchi.Topics discussed in this episode:Becoming ‘The Airbnb Data Guy' with zero background in dataWhy many are justifiably skeptical of Airbnb arbitrage Lessons from John's biggest rental arbitrage mistakeJohn's 3-steps to Airbnb: regulation, data, operationsWhy short-term rentals aren't always the best choiceHow to find the Airbnb sweet spotCompetitive advantages (and disadvantages) of the Airbnb algorithmProven formulas for translating Airbnb data into profitWhat to expect from working with JohnThe role of patience and process in John's success storyStories that stick out from John's experiencePivotal cash flow advice to help you grow your businessRecommended reads and resourcesCheck out John's YouTube Channel for more Airbnb data secrets.You can also contact John directly at hello@pointanalytics.co or get in touch with him via Superhost Labs.John's recommended reads:Profit FirstThe Psychology of MoneyI Will Teach You to be RichIf you are interested in learning from Dan and Mike to receive coaching and learn how they built their business, check out instantinvestorprogram.com and see if you are a good fit for the mastermind group! Resources Mentioned:collectingkeyspodcast.cominstagram.com/collectingkeyspodcastInstantinvestorprogram.cominstagram.com/mike_investsinstagram.com/investormandan

Hoy por Hoy
15 minutos de fama | Reyes que se verán las caras en el funeral real

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 16:52


Se confirma que el rey emérito acudirá al funeral de la reina Isabel II de Inglaterra. ¿Dónde se sentará? ¿Entrará antes o después de Felipe VI? ¿Con qué espíritu se enfrentará la reina Letizia a este trance? ¿Y la reina Sofía? En un momento en que más de media España está viendo con estupor el documental "Salvar al rey"... Nuestro experto Martín Bianchi tiene respuestas para todas estas apasionantes preguntas. 

Hoy por Hoy
Hoy por Hoy | Magazine

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 82:02


Nacho Carretero y Nuño Domínguez charlan sobre la sensación de la perdida de nuestros ídolos como si fueran familiares. Em la parte dedicada a la Ciencia dentro del "Comando N" hablamos de la pesca en salinas, los despesques. Eduardo Barba sigue enseñándonos jardinería y Martín Bianchi nos habla de todo el embrollo protocolario que puede suponer el funeral de Isabel II. 

Tech&Co
L'intégrale de Tech & Co du mardi 13 septembre

Tech&Co

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2022 85:13


Mardi 13 septembre, François Sorel a reçu Frédéric Bianchi, journaliste à BFM Business, Cathy Guetta, cofondatrice de Djaayz, Snight B, DJ résident au Network (Lille), Raphaël Leprette, cofondateur de Money Walkie, Marc Westermann, directeur Produits & Services de SOMFY, Sabrina Quagliozzi, correspondante de BFM Business à New York, Boris Lugez, ingénieur chez Continental, Quentin Xavier, cofondateur et directeur général d'Urban Circus, Luc Pallavidino, cofondateur de Yousign, ainsi que Christophe Dandois, fondateur et PDG de Leocare, dans l'émission Tech & Co sur BFM Business. Retrouvez l'émission du lundi au jeudi et réécoutez la en podcast.

The Liquid Lunch Project
Disrupting Traditional Real Estate With John Bianchi

The Liquid Lunch Project

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 12, 2022 36:23


There's no doubt about it, Airbnb's have disrupted the real estate market. John Bianchi of Point Analytics says this new industry has made homes into a different asset class. John first got into the industry when he rented out an extra room in his house as a short term rental. When he found that he could cover his entire rent and then some, it was obvious to him that there was something to this. As he looked into the viability of Airbnb's as a business, John started managing other people's Airbnb's for them. He had a keen understanding of what it took for a profitable Airbnb, starting with which homes to select.  John began to notice that most other people trying to get into the industry didn't have this understanding, and so he created a YouTube tutorial.   John was eventually picked up by one of the biggest short term investment companies, where he works as the data guy. There are a lot of things he looks for when making recommendations of properties to invest in. From major metropolitan areas to vacation destination cities, the number one thing to consider is, is there a demand in that market, a reason for people to come to the area? A big mistake some Airbnb investors make is not looking into regulations for short term rentals, as every state, city, county, and HOA has different rules. There's a lot of data that goes into creating a successful Airbnb, to find out how John can help you, email him at hello@pointanalytics.co to book your free 15 minutes consultation.   What You'll Learn: How regulations have emerged and changed in this industry. How Covid changed the short term rental landscape. What amenities people care about with short term rentals. What ecosystem of businesses have been created because of Airbnb's.    Favorite Quote: “Millennials are spending their money on experiences over acquiring things.” -John Bianchi   How to Connect with John: Email   ______________________________________________________________________   How To Get Involved:   Matthew Meehan and Luigi Rosabianca possess, between them, a treasure trove of insight and strategic advice for ambitious business owners.   Get in touch with the guys at ShieldAdvisoryGroup.    You can also connect with them on Instagram at The Liquid Lunch Project, Matthew Meehan, Luigi Rosabianca, and Shield Advisory Group.   Make sure you never miss an episode — check out The Liquid Lunch Project on Apple Podcasts, and don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review!

Las noticias de EL PAÍS
Coronación, Lady Di y covid: así se ganó Isabel II al mundo

Las noticias de EL PAÍS

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 9, 2022 10:55


La muerte de la reina de Inglaterra plantea mucho más que la sucesión de una reina y va más allá del Reino Unido. Porque fue la monarca más longeva —70 años de mandato—, y también la más popular del mundo. Ahora su sucesor, su hijo Carlos, tiene que defender una institución para muchos anticuada y conectar con los ciudadanos tanto como lo hizo su madre. La reina de Inglaterra se definió en miles de momentos. Rafa de Miguel, corresponsal de EL PAÍS en Londres, y el periodista de EL PAÍS Semanal Martín Bianchi, han elegido tres instantes para la historia.

Seductor Élite
#15 Seductor Élite | De Sudarle Las Manos a Dar Conferencias y Ser Un EXPERTO EN VENTAS | Álvaro Reyes y Augusto Bianchi

Seductor Élite

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 8, 2022 62:37


Augusto Bianchi es una persona muy especial. Es uno de los mejores vendedores de JuegaTuJuego en este episodio nos revela como paso de ser un chico al que le sudan las manos a estar dando conferencias.

Hoy por Hoy
Hoy por Hoy | Magazine

Hoy por Hoy

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2022 94:31


Vuelven Marta Sanz y Manuel Delgado, hablamos con Lola Pons sobre "deber" y "deber de", conjugamos el pretérito pluscuamperfecto con Ana Uslé y estrenamos sección, "15 minutos de fama", con el periodista especializado Martín Bianchi. 

Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 9/6/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Sep 6, 2022 4:52


Middle Georgia's ESPN
The Midday Sports Zone - Jordan Bianchi Interview - 8/30/22

Middle Georgia's ESPN

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 30, 2022 7:55


The Gravel Ride.  A cycling podcast
Matt Harvey - Enduro Bearings

The Gravel Ride. A cycling podcast

Play Episode Listen Later Aug 23, 2022 66:27 Very Popular


This week Randall sits down with Enduro Bearings co-founder, Matt Harvey. Randall and Matt go deep on the origin story of Enduro Bearings (circe 1996), bearing science and myth, and how this often overlooked component enables the ride experience. Episode Sponsor: Athletic Greens Enduro Bearings Support the Podcast Join The Ridership  Automated Transcription, please excuse the typos: Enduro Bearings [00:00:00] Craig Dalton: Hello, and welcome to the gravel ride podcast, where we go deep on the sport of gravel cycling through in-depth interviews with product designers, event organizers and athletes. Who are pioneering the sport I'm your host, Craig Dalton, a lifelong cyclist who discovered gravel cycling back in 2016 and made all the mistakes you don't need to make. I approach each episode as a beginner down, unlock all the knowledge you need to become a great gravel cyclist. This week on the show, I'm handing the microphone back to my co-host Randall Jacobs. Who's got Matt Harvey. Founder of Enduro bearings on the show. You might've heard us talk about Inderal bearings a few times in the, in the dirt episodes, as I was deciding and debating what bottom bracket to run on my new custom bike. Well, I decided on the Enduro stainless steel bottom bracket. And I couldn't be happier with the performance thus far. I was happy that Randall volunteered to take a deep dive into bearing technology. With Matt, as I think he's got better perspective on the technical elements. And certainly there's no one better to talk about this product than Matt himself. Before we jump in i need to thank this week sponsor athletic greens Athletic greens is literally a product that I take every day. I discovered athletic greens many years ago, as I was recovering from my treatment for Hodgkin's lymphoma. I was looking for something that had the vitamins, minerals and probiotics that I needed to kind of just give me baseline support. After I was through that difficult period of my life. I realized that this was sort of a baseline thing I needed for all my athletic endeavors as well. With one scoop of athletic greens, you're absorbing 75 high quality vitamins minerals, whole food source, superfoods. Probiotics and APTA gins. To help you start your day, right? It's a special blend of ingredients to support your gut health. Your nervous system, your immune system, your energy, your recovery, your focus and aging. All the things. I encourage you to check it out, to see if it's something that might fit for you to make it easy. Athletic greens is going to give you a free one year supply of immune supporting vitamin D and five free travel packs with your first purchase. All you have to do is that the athletic greens.com/the gravel ride. Again, that's athletic greens.com/the gravel ride. To take ownership of your health and pick up the ultimate daily nutritional insurance. With that said, I'm going to hand the microphone over to Randall. For his interview with matt harvey from enduro bearings [00:02:37] Randall Jacobs: So I cut you off last time we spoke because there are just too many things that I was interested in diving into. And there's the obvious technical aspects of what goes into making a bearing? Of the myths about bearings that we might debunk and things like this. But before we dive in, just tell us a little bit about yourself. [00:02:57] Matt Harvey: well, I've always been in bicycles ever since I can remember. So I started out as a BMX rat, you know, when I was like 13, 12 or 13, and I started working at a bike shop when I was 13. So I immediately into the mechanical, well, spraying, WD 40 on POJO drive, tra is an exactly super high end mechanical things, but that's how it started. So, you know, and you know, through there, I worked in bike shops, my business partner. Now I met in a bike shop when I was 17. We worked in the same bike shop. I ended up working at Fisher mountain bikes. I got an engineering degree, ended up working at Fisher mountain bikes, wide industries Bianchi bicycles, starting out in warranty. Became a product manager, went to Italy, did their mountain bike wine designed a bunch of road bikes and mountain bikes full suspension road bike that got written in Perry RBA. and that was kind of like when I was looking at bearings because everybody was using plane bearings or bushings at the time. And the Fisher RS one with Mert Lawwell work. That was his design. And one of the first full suspension bikes, I think. Well, not first, but you know what I mean? Like current more modern production type, full suspension bike, I should say. Cuz suspension, bikes go back. You know, turn of the last century. So, so that's when I was starting to look at bearings and rolling elements and that's when they were getting popular. And that guy I worked with at a bike shop when I was 17, he was in the forklift business by then. And he was starting to make bearings for old forklifts. And you know, we hadn't lost touch and we were talking and I started doing drawings for him cuz he needed CAD drawings for certain things. I was working at Bianchi. And then we, at one point we decided, Hey, this could become a business. So let's start making bearings for forklifts and bicycles. And that's what we still do. 30 years later. [00:04:58] Randall Jacobs: Well, and I'm curious, we'll, we'll dive into the Enduro bearing story in a minute, but I wanna dive more into that background cuz there's a few things that I find interesting one is, you have what sounds like a technical understanding of the bike that comes from, getting your hands dirty at a young age. I share that experience. And in fact, working on bikes I think is a great way for any person to learn how mechanical systems work. But then also you worked in warranty, so you saw what was going wrong. How did your experience working in shops and working in warranty inform your perspective on product. [00:05:30] Matt Harvey: yeah. They're all related, right? You can't separate it. Obviously at one point I realized I needed more school to do what I was thinking about doing, I wanted my boss's job. I wanted to do what he was doing, which was designing bikes, but I didn't have the background or experience. So I went back to school, but yeah, I mean, Your hands are in the bikes, you ride bikes. So you get a certain aspect, which is super important, the practical aspect, but then you know, getting into engineering and so forth, you have to have, you know, the math, the, you know, the history, the you know, and then you get into business. You need business stuff too, but there there's a lot of corners. You need to go explore to put the whole thing together. I, I think, and, and that's what I ended up, ended up doing. So at, at the beginning it was practical aspect, you know, seed of the pan stuff, cuz I'm just working on stuff. And that's the way, a lot of the way a lot of things happened in the late eighties, early nineties, that's kind of the period I was working on it. But you mentioned warranty. Yeah. I learned a lot in warranty cuz I saw everything that got broken. [00:06:43] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. [00:06:44] Matt Harvey: at Bianchi bicycles and it was the eighties and. Ola was king, you know, shaman was coming with index shifting, but you know, things were being made in in Italy or, or Taiwan or, or various countries at the time, still a lot in the us. And, and then there was people were trying to, you know, save money and then things break. And what happens with heat treating what happens with why did that thing break? Why was there too much heat treating? Well, I wanted to find out, well, that seems like a good thing. How can there be too much heat treating? So, you know, you learn, I, you see the broken parts, you see a box of broken pedals and that's not good. Nobody likes to break a pedal, but you find out like why things get crispy and break and and all the, so I, I wanted to learn about especially metal steel, aluminum at the time it was Prebon fiber. [00:07:40] Randall Jacobs: Mm [00:07:40] Matt Harvey: But so yeah I, you go into, I went into back to school in metal shop too. And but I, I was lucky because I also had, I was going to Taiwan. I was still working for Bianchi. I was going to factories, seeing things you know, forged, spin, welded you know, all the different ways you make things. So I was, I was getting a practical eyes on learning experience in Taiwan where all the production was kind of going. I was also going to Italy and, you know, Italy was still making a lot of stuff. Then Bianchi was making bikes at the main factory there. I mean, they're getting back to it again, but at the time it was sort of Asia was taking over on a lot of the production. So it was kind of split between, you know, Asia and Italy at the time. [00:08:26] Randall Jacobs: So you were right in there at a number of big transitions in the industry. The advent of the mountain bike, which was very much a us and in particular bay area phenomenon . And in fact I've talked about different tariff codes in for mountain bikes there was a significant domestic manufacturing operation. And materials were that much more critical cuz you had this really high stress application that hadn't really been done before. Like those clunks were not were not holding up all that well. And then the transition to index shifting that's another major transition in the industry. That's the reason why Shao is so dominant today. And also Asia manufacturing, a lot of which was people in the us and European bike industries who were going over and helping to, transfer that knowledge and set up that production in what is now, Taiwan in particular some of the, the best, highest end manufacturing for bikes anywhere. It's no, it's no longer a cost thing. It's a quality thing. [00:09:23] Matt Harvey: Yeah. And in the beginning they were, they had the ability to make really high end stuff, but the knowledge needed to come from the people who were practically riding bikes, because they weren't practically riding bikes. They knew how to make things, but they had to know how to make it now, you know, the Taiwanese it feeds back a lot of times they, they do new products that they develop their own new products that are really great. So, but yeah, you're right. Those were the early days of figuring all that stuff out. [00:09:53] Randall Jacobs: Well, and I'd, and I'd say I definitely see more domain knowledge on the product side in Taiwan than there was in the past, but still it, it does seem that the, the most successful Taiwanese manufacturers are those that have, European or American team that is in the market and kind of on top of the trends and the trends are still largely driven by those two markets. [00:10:15] Matt Harvey: sure. But you know, in Taiwan now it's an entire, since I started there, it's an entirely new generation that has now grown up in the bike industry. And there a lot of 'em are riders now and stuff. And back then nobody was riding mountain bikes who worked at the factories or made stuff or design stuff. But now you have a lot of people there that are enthusiast. And I mean, as big an enthusiast as anybody in the world for [00:10:39] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. True. [00:10:40] Matt Harvey: riding. And so it's, it's an entirely new generation that. I mean, it's great. They've embraced it and they know it and they develop things materials and design it's incredible. And at the time, you know, historically you go back, so Italy was, you know, Italy and France were the huge innovators back when right. They came out well, derailer, it's a French word and Italians didn't embrace it immediately. They had other things, other ideas. But at the time when I went there, it was an interesting time because Italy was king, but not quite becoming, you know, they, they didn't catch the mountain bike wave. They were looking at specialized and these innovators at the time Fisher, all, you know, Richie, all the people that were innovating and they couldn't keep up, they didn't quite cuz they're, they were a mature market and not looking at that. So I was the American brought in to be the eyes and. Practicality of that part which I was, you know, it was a little frustrating cuz you couldn't quite keep up and then the name Bianchi and mountain bikes at the time no people are gonna buy a, a Fisher or a Richie or something or an Ibis, you know? So that was a uphill battle and that, and that's why European brands or track, you know, they bought mountain bike brands. They bought, you know, Gary Fisher brand and to sell it because they were known as a road bike company. And that's what people were doing at the time. So it wasn't always necessarily not great ideas at these companies. It was marketing to, you know, you have to have it all. [00:12:16] Randall Jacobs: it's interesting, like you think about camp. No. Which was a really great and, and major player, and they're still significant, but substantially diminished, vis Avi Shao and STR the, the two, you know, arguably we have a duopoly in our industry and it's those two and camp Nolo makes some good stuff, but they didn't come out with hydraulic disc brakes until much later. and, and even then I think they work with McGurk on that. I don't know if that's in house now. They're more recent offerings with the ECAR group, I think are, are innovative. And I'd like to see them contest from more spec because the industry does benefit from competition. But yeah, it's interesting to hear your perspective on how the industry has evolved. What year did you enter? When were you working in those shops? [00:12:59] Matt Harvey: So first bike shop was 1976. And then let's see, I worked in shops until about 81 and I ended up starting at Bianchi warranty in the 82, maybe through 80, 85. And then I went over to Fisher. I went back to school. I, I simultaneously worked at Fisher and was in school and, and then I started moonlighting at white industries because Doug white was, he was pretty, he was making titanium spindles for Fisher. So that's how I made the connection there. And I would go over to his shop. They were pretty close by. There was a lot of people around then Dave GU DKG make, he still makes seat clamps. He was making motorcycle stuff. You know, there was salsa. Everybody was kind of in the same area and everything was happening up in Marin then. So, you know, I talked to lot of people, Peter Johnson, all these people that were making stuff. And so I went back when I finished school. I it just coincided with Bianchi needing a product manager for a mountain bike specifically. So they, I got rehired at Bianchi as product manager, and then it was a lot of a lot of whirlwind you know, once a month to Taiwan. Once every two months to Italy, I was on the plane all the time, doing a lot of stuff and developed two mountain bikes there. And that was a transition of going from bushings to rolling elements bearings and seeing that, you know, the bearings weren't hacking it. I wanted bearings cuz they're faster, you know, than bushings bushings are slow in a suspension linkage. And if you're going over a high you know, water bars or high frequency stuff, [00:14:46] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. [00:14:46] Matt Harvey: they're, they're just too slow. Bushings can't react. So rolling elements work better, but they were wearing out fast. So it was trying to figure out how to do better ones. And then that was kind of my transition into bearings. My friend from the bike shop was he was down at his shop in Emoryville making LAR much larger bearings, like five, six inch diameter bearings for forklifts, but they were max type, which we use in suspension, bearings. And I go, oh, that's a cool idea. Forklifts use these full complement bearings full of balls. And why don't, why don't we do that for mountain bikes, but just a make a micro version. And that was the beginning of trying to make bearings for suspension, bikes, and kind of the beginning of it. [00:15:32] Randall Jacobs: so let let's talk about that. I remember a lot of it was cup and cone for bearings. I remember bushings in mountain bike linkages, and then cartridge bearings, when did those come to the four? Is that where you started or were you doing loose ball initially? [00:15:46] Matt Harvey: No, it was cartridge bearings, but yeah, you're you're right too. Like cup and cone were often max type bearings, as you say, no retainer, you know? And, but [00:15:56] Randall Jacobs: which is to say the balls are, are rubbing up against each other, spinning an opposite direction. So there's a high degree of friction between those two surfaces of the balls versus having a retainer with a lower friction coefficient separating them. [00:16:09] Matt Harvey: that's true. But surprisingly the friction between the balls is actually extremely low. Believe it or not. I mean, theoretically, you would imagine that there is, but the balls are so smooth. And I've studied this a little bit. There there's very little friction from the balls rubbing against each other without a retainer. It is a little bit better with a retainer, but it's almost immeasurable. It's really small coefficient of friction between [00:16:35] Randall Jacobs: Oh, that's super interesting. Are there applications where you would not want a retainer then? [00:16:40] Matt Harvey: Usually, bearings run smoother with a retainer. The thing about max bearings is you have to get the balls in there. So there's a a side hole, if you will, to feed the balls into their slots and, and it, it gets into the ball path and that creates more friction than the ball's rubbing against each other, especially in an axial, like if they get off center and they rub against that fill slot. So that's why they're really good for pivot bearings. Not really recommended for hub bearings or, or bottom bracket bearings for that matter. [00:17:19] Randall Jacobs: yeah. Cuz you have those, those non radial loads that are being applied to them. [00:17:23] Matt Harvey: right now, the old [00:17:25] Randall Jacobs: I just wanna state, we did, we did promise a properly nerdy podcast for this. So we're gonna get into the weeds. I'm loving this. I hope that our listeners will as well. There's a lot that goes into bearings that we kind of take for granted [00:17:37] Matt Harvey: sorry, I can go into the weeds pretty quick. Just you [00:17:40] Randall Jacobs: that's, that's the point? That's the point? This I, this is, this is as much for me as it is the audience. So let's go into the weeds. And so you have this, I was actually going to ask how you get the bearings in there in the first place. So you have a, a single location where there's a, a notch, and then you have this retainer that makes sure that the bearings never track into that notch. [00:17:59] Matt Harvey: Well, yeah. So in a retainer bearing, you can assemble the bearing without a fill slot. So you put in all the balls on one side and it kind of, well, I'm not gonna demonstrate it here, but they, they all go in on they're all on one side of the lower race and you kind of snap it together in the, so there's no fill slot on a retainer. There's only so many balls you can get in there because of that design and, and that was developed in Germany in the late 18 hundreds. And then max Barings, or, you know, those were the first ones actually in S hubs going back to 1860 1870s and their angular contact Aless hubs. Yeah. [00:18:39] Randall Jacobs: that's a, I think Bontrager had a line of wheels called OLIS. Is that the same, [00:18:44] Matt Harvey: Yeah. I think they revived the name. But yeah, it's an old, it's a really old hub name and developed for bicycles. Like the first precision bearings are interchangeable. Part bearings were developed for early bicycles. Rolling elements that standardized rolling elements, [00:19:02] Randall Jacobs: Were they even bicycles at that point? Or were they like velos or some of these [00:19:07] Matt Harvey: speeds. [00:19:07] Randall Jacobs: yeah, so, [00:19:09] Matt Harvey: safety bicycle was until 1885. So, but you know, same bearings were used in those and, and bone shakers or, you know, the various things that you saw developed, you know, three wheels and four wheels and so forth back [00:19:25] Randall Jacobs: and this term, this term Velo you know, velocipede and safety bicycle for those who don't know the, the history of the evolution of the bicycle. Can you talk a little bit about that? [00:19:35] Matt Harvey: yeah. So I think philosophy is anything that rolls by human locomotion, whereas safety bicycle, you, penny farthing is the large wheel up front because it was pre chain gearing. And that's how you got your gearing was to use a really big wheel in the front or medium, you know, various size wheels. The race bikes had a huge wheel. Extremely dangerous. And then they called it the safety bicycle with two wheels, the same size chain drive, because it was much safer than a bone shaker or penny far with the big wheel. Cuz the crashes on those were horrendous. [00:20:13] Randall Jacobs: sure you're starting from a high point. And then if you hit anything, you're going, lawn dart but then still fixed gear. And then you had to have ratchet mechanisms or some sort of free hub or free wheel and all these things that we take for granted they had to be invented and evolved and materials had to be there and, and the production tolerances had to be there for all of this to exist. [00:20:34] Matt Harvey: That's right. It, it took it, it was pretty quick how the the development of the bicycle, all the things that came became developed came in quick succession. It's amazing how early things were invented that. We see as quite advanced. In fact, I was just looking at something recently, cuz you know, there's a two speed rear hub that has become pretty popular in the industry classified and you know, the first two speed rear hub was actually like 1896. That's how far back stuff [00:21:03] Randall Jacobs: was, what was the company behind that? [00:21:06] Matt Harvey: it was called, believe it or not. The name of it was they, it was so early. They just called it the hub. That was the name of the company. And I forget the guy who developed it, but he called it the hub and it was extremely popular at two speed rear hub. And then there was like five companies within two years making them back [00:21:25] Randall Jacobs: Got it. [00:21:26] Matt Harvey: We, we are getting into the weeds here but you know, it all comes together. It makes sense because people are always looking for, you know, right now it's a front derailer thing with full suspension bikes. It's hard to put a front derailer on the bike and you know, so the two speed hub here, we have it again because it solves a problem. But it's interesting to know that it was developed a hundred years or over a hundred years ago too. [00:21:52] Randall Jacobs: Sure. Yeah. Yeah. And it's also like the, the solution that you had in the bearing space, it had a context. It's another one of these enabling technologies that had to be put in there to have, you know, you look at something like the Delta suspension design that Dave weel came up with for, for evil and just the number of bearings in there. And imagine having that with a bunch of bushings that have a high static friction and so on, it just doesn't work, never mind the high rolling efficiency of our wheels and bottom brackets and all these things. So let's go back to bearings. You alluded to how Enduro got started and you were doing forklift bearings so let's continue on that Bain. [00:22:31] Matt Harvey: all right. So we were making bearings for forklifts that you couldn't get anymore because forklifts last their electric vehicles, or, you know, you can put a new engine on 'em. So the, the car that you of the forklift keeps going, so, or the truck. So, yeah, we were making specifically the bearings that go up and down in the mast that hold the forks. So those have to be. They carry extremely high loads and they don't spin very fast. They're max bearings. And that's [00:23:01] Randall Jacobs: What, what defines a max bearing? [00:23:04] Matt Harvey: maximum fill of balls. So not a retainer bearing. You can put, if you take the retainer out and just fill it full of balls on max maximum fill, you can put about 35% more balls into the bearing and then your, yeah. Your load capacity increases. By that amount, 35% [00:23:27] Randall Jacobs: Mm-hmm so you can either have a bigger bearing or you can have one of these max bearings to fit the same amount of load capacity into a smaller form factor. [00:23:36] Matt Harvey: Exactly. And as long as the rolling element, isn't spinning really fast. Like, you know, it's not an electric motor going 10,000 RPM. It's, it's going maybe I don't know, 20 or 80 RPM, pretty, pretty slow. Even on a bicycle, you know, cranks and wheels. They're hundreds of RPM, not thousands. So, well in a suspension pivot, it's just swiveling back and forth. Maybe 15 degrees. So max bearing makes sense, cuz it's not spinning. You're not looking at a lot of friction from the fill slot or whatever. So we started making we were making those forklift bearings and ironic white industries was actually making 'em for us up in Nevada, those early ones. We made some at the shop. We were turning at the shop, but when we got into larger numbers, white industries was doing it. And. So I was working with them and then we ended up making some hub bearings which are retainer bearings, which for hubs, hubs need to have higher precision to spin smoothly because in a, in a back hub you have four or five bearings that you're stacking up and you need a higher level of precision. That's why we do ABAC five bearings at Enduro for, for hubs specifically, because you need a higher level of tolerance. Now, ABAC ratings are significant in that they give you a level of the precision. However, all of the Abe parameters are not really applicable to bicycle application, cuz it's really a lot about noise ratings and spinning at 10 20,000 RPM, which bicycle bearings never do. So we do. Abe grading, Abe bearings for the ID OD with tolerance to make the alignment. Correct. But we do very deep groove to take higher loads than most high spinning bearings. [00:25:31] Randall Jacobs: Got it. That makes sense. So you have a bigger surface area where the bearings are contacting those races and thus you have less deformation of the balls, less deformation of those races as the, you know, as that as it's spinning. And that load is, you know, coming on and off of each ball. [00:25:47] Matt Harvey: right. And so a lot of high Abbe rated bearings may not be good for bicycles because to reach the noise level testing you want it's easier to make an Abbe, a high Abbe rated bearing with shallower grooves. And less surface contact, but that's not good for a bicycle because you have pretty high axial loads and everybody who makes hubs and bicycle components in general, they're always trying to save weight. So they try and use the lightest weight bearings possible. So you need that bearing to be as robust as possible to resist the the the loads of, of the you know, axial loads, radial loads that, that small bearing has to put up with [00:26:35] Randall Jacobs: And just to clarify terms for those in the audience who don't have an engineering background, radio loads, being those in plane with the bearings. So in, in, in the same plane as the bearings, so if it's a wheel it's like a load that's coming, straight up perpendicular the ground through the center of the bearing essentially versus an axial load is, would be like a twisting load on that same bearing. So if you have a lateral force on that wheel or something like that, which you can have, presumably you have somewhat significant axial loads in especially in like mountain bike linkages and rear wheels and things like that. [00:27:09] Matt Harvey: oh yeah. Or even road wheels, like a rear hub. When you're going up a hill, like a really strong rider out of the saddle, going back and forth. There's significant axial loads and twisting between the cassette mechanism, the, where the Sprockets are and the hub shell. It's, you're literally trying to pull the thing apart because it's not a motor running it on a chain, like sitting stationary, you know, like a you know, a generator motor or something, you know, the human is just, doesn't put out constant power. So that's why you see elliptical. Sprockets and stuff, but you you're basically putting on a, a as you're going up a steep hill, let's say you're, you're twisting everything apart. So there's high axial loads on the rear bearings, and even the front bearing, you know, when you're sprinting the front wheel bearing it's, it's moving side to side when people are throwing their bike and you have now dis brakes too, which puts on unequal loads, cuz it's one side of the hub onto the bearings. So you're pulling the bearings over again with dis brakes and that's brought a whole new well for me, I like it cuz it's a challenge, but that's another new challenge of conundrum of of problems to address with front wheel loading cuz front wheels were just mostly along for the ride with rim breaks. But with dis brakes, you gotta, you gotta look at it closer. They're asymmetric forces on the front wheel now too. Uneven [00:28:37] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. And it's on the hub, it's also on the fork itself. And fork legs had to be redesigned a primary driver of the creation and adoption of through axles was also because the torque loads were so great. And in fact, if that quick release was not tightened fully, you could actually have a wheel eject itself. So yeah, just massive forces in those areas that people don't really consider when they throw on a 1300 gram wheel set and say, okay, this is gonna support my entire weight and keep me safe at 30 miles an hour on a steep mountainous descent. [00:29:09] Matt Harvey: exactly. And, and a lot of times the bearings are even by the designers, surprisingly, sometimes they're the last thing thought about, and they say, oh, we need a bearing to fit in this. You know, it's gotta fit under the disc and over the through axle and it become. Extremely thin. And then you gotta look at other ways to make a solution for that. So it holds up and doesn't burn out. I mean, early in disc breaks that you'd see hubs that the disc would get so hot. You could burn out the, the the disc side bearing in one downhill run, [00:29:43] Randall Jacobs: Oh, wow. [00:29:44] Matt Harvey: and some [00:29:45] Randall Jacobs: I didn't realize that. [00:29:46] Matt Harvey: Oh yeah. And some riders were buying like full tubes of the, this side, front wheel bearings for certain hubs, because they would knock it out after every run and put a new bearing in. It got so hot, it would like boil the grease out of it and just toast the thing. It would practically set the weeds on fire, you know, cuz , it got so hot. I mean the dis brakes have improved and cooling and some other things and people have gotten smarter about the hub bearings on that side. But like about eight years ago we were selling a lot of certain sizes of bearings cuz for downhill guys. [00:30:20] Randall Jacobs: Well, and disc diameters have gotten much bigger. You have aluminum spiders with venting that can help to shed some of that transfer it to the air versus early disc breaks were I mean, a lot of it was what, 140 millimeters [00:30:34] Matt Harvey: yeah, small ones. [00:30:35] Randall Jacobs: lot of, [00:30:36] Matt Harvey: when we start, there was no dis when we started with that RS one with Mert Lawwell we needed a disc break. There were none around. We used to fill disc break from back then. That was a all fiber disk. I don't know if you remember that one, but there weren't any discs that would that, you know, and they faded, you know, faded miserably. That was really hard thing to slow that bike down. [00:30:57] Randall Jacobs: yeah, again, I can't impress upon our audience enough of just how good we have it right now, in terms of how, you can have an extraordinarily lightweight breaking system that will stop you plus your bike, plus whatever gear you have reliably and consistently for long periods of time and everything just works. And it's actually, I, I mean, I remember my first bikes, you know, I'm only, I'm only turning 40, my first bikes didn't just work. There was a lot of service. There was a lot of parts failures and so on, and now things just seemed to be engineered and manufactured to a much higher standard such that it's increasingly surprising when things don't just work. And bearings are a big part of that. [00:31:39] Matt Harvey: And so, what if you don't mind, like the there's one development that I worked on A long from a long time ago, I had heard about this metal that air Airbus had developed and for their, for making bearings in the planes. And I read about it and I immediately wanted it. And there's only a couple foundries that make this particular steel in the world, but I knew it was gonna be perfect for ceramic bearings. And but you know, it was frustrating because the amount of steel that I needed even though it was a lot of money for me who they, they would never be interested in. I, I got my business partner, speaks Germany called the Foundry in Germany and they basically hung up on him, you know, or they didn't hang up on him, but, you know, I was like, yeah, thanks kids. See you later. And I was at a show and I met this guy who. To you know, I, people sign trying to sell me metal all the time. Cuz we make bearings, but this guy, I heard the word nitrogen steel and I said, wait a minute, you can get nitrogen steel. And he's like, oh yeah, you know, I represent the company. So the long and shorts of the story is he's a mountain biker who worked for the Foundry in France. There's only two foundries. So he got me in there and was able to get me some steel. And, and so we'd been making XD 15 bearings now for over 10 years, I think maybe 12 or something. But that material cuz ceramic bearings, they're when you think about ceramic bearings, they're kind of fragile, right? They they're really great because they do spin really well. Cuz you have a super hard ball. It's seven times harder than steel. It won't flex or, or push out of the way deform and but it wears the races out. If there's no grease or. They can rust and all these things, and here's this material XD 15, it won't rust it won't corrode and you can run a ceramic ball in it with dirt, whatever you want and it won't wear out. [00:33:33] Randall Jacobs: It'll just Ize it, whatever gets in there. [00:33:35] Matt Harvey: it, yeah, it burnishes the races it'll like Polish and so you don't get Goling or pitting. So what usually happens with a bearing when it wears out, it'll just, you know, you get dirt or no grease in there and what happens. You get a pothole, essentially. If you're in the race and it's a little pit in the race, and then as the ball rolls over that the P like a car running over a pothole gets bigger and bigger until you feel that it's rough. So that's what happens when a bearing wears out. Well, that doesn't happen with XD 15, nor does it corrode. So, me and this guy, you know, we're, we're, we're still buddies and he he still rides his mountain bikes and he gets me the steel. Still we're still friends, but you know, the bike industry is so small. We're probably 20 minutes of, or not even 10 minutes of production out of this Foundry for all we buy in a. Because Airbus soaks that stuff up by the, you know, it's just aviation uses so much more material than, you know, any sports industry thing. So, I'm just lucky to be able to get it. But it's it's an interesting material to work with. We have to get raw, we can't get tubing, you gotta drill it. There there's a lot of it's hard to make these bearings, but I'm kind of proud of it. I mean, it's my favorite thing that we make because it answers the question when somebody calls and says, I want something to put in my bike and then I never wanna work on it again, which is kind of my goal too. Cause I never have time to work on my bike. And it's just like, I want to, you know, you can put these bearings in your bike and never think about 'em again. So that's why I like them. [00:35:12] Randall Jacobs: well, and this is a great segue into a topic that I think a number of our more performance or competition oriented listeners will be curious about, which is the ceramic bearing landscape, right? There are a few options out there. Maybe they're included on a very premium wheel set. Maybe it's some bearing kit that you can press into your existing hubs, but the perception that these are better or even necessarily faster or more efficient is not really backed up. And there's a phenomenon where, you know, you end up and, and I made this mistake. I. Ceramic bearings early on trying to get every little edge. And the science simply says that, well, it may give you a slight, maybe imperceptible benefit for a few hundred miles and then, the performance is going to a degree rather quickly because they're a significant part of that performance benefit has less to do with the bearing and more to do with say the thinner grease that's being used or the lighter seals that are being used. And then you have contamination, you have the Goling and, and pitting that you just described and so on. So maybe help us to understand the ceramic bearing landscape generally. And what's true and not true about ceramic bearings. How do you make a good one? How do you make a bad one? [00:36:21] Matt Harvey: right. Well, what you just said is, is all true. You know, friction and bearings has more to do usually with the seals and the grease at first grease dissipates. And, you know, after you've ridden it, a couple of rides, it dissipates and it's less of a factor, but right. Brand new out of the box, there's some grease not friction, but resistance [00:36:43] Randall Jacobs: to the viscosity of the grease, the thicker, the grease, the more resistance it applies. It's simply just within the friction of the material within itself. [00:36:52] Matt Harvey: Exactly. And, you know, first of all, the reason you don't see a lot of data about what actual test data about what that is, is because it's really small and hard to measure what that wattage difference is. So the drive train is your drive train is about seven Watts of suck, or if you will, or, you know, the and five of the Watts are the chain because it's basically a chain is 110 plane bearings rolling around on your Sprockets. So that's, that's, [00:37:24] Randall Jacobs: Plain bearings, meaning not having a ball bearing. It's just a metal on metal interface. [00:37:29] Matt Harvey: Rolling element. So it's a, it's a metal, a steel ring that rolls over your chain rings and there chain is extremely efficient. It's great. That's why everybody we use 'em but so that leaves two Watts for all the bearings in your bike. So if you do the math, you know, there's at least 12 bearings. [00:37:44] Randall Jacobs: So two in the front wheel, four or five in the rear wheel. Two in the bottom bracket and then [00:37:51] Matt Harvey: couple in the pedals [00:37:53] Randall Jacobs: Oh, in [00:37:53] Matt Harvey: and the pedals [00:37:55] Randall Jacobs: Yep. Yep. Can't forget that. Usually it's a cartridge ball bearing and then maybe a needle bearing [00:38:00] Matt Harvey: needle bearing. Yeah, [00:38:01] Randall Jacobs: has to fit in that really tight form factor. [00:38:04] Matt Harvey: exactly. So. [00:38:07] Randall Jacobs: for all of that. [00:38:08] Matt Harvey: Yeah. So you're talking under a wat it's it's it's per, per bearing. So it's really hard to measure because not very many people have equipment that can measure under a wat, you know, and even a bad bearing is still under a wat, you know, we're talking 0.2 0.2, five Watts per bearing, something like that. So, but so there are some efficiencies of ceramic what that is, you know, I'll let you leave it to your imagination, but it's not, it's not like, full Watts. Let's say it's you know, and my interest, so ceramic bearings in general are always best as you just pointed out right out of the box, and then they go downhill. From, if you will, from there, they, they deteriorate and you have to keep up with servicing XD 15. The reason I really like it, it's, it's more of a longevity story than a wattage story. Well, it is a wad story because they actually get better over time. The balls burnish, the races and they get smoother, but what's nice about 'em is they don't wear out. And if you don't wanna service 'em, you don't have to. So, you can never open 'em up and put grease on 'em. You can just keep riding 'em and they won't get loose or they won't get rough. They might get rough when you get some dirt in them, but the rough, the dirt will dissipate get ground up or come out and it they're fine again. So that's what I like about 'em. They're if you're talking about wattage there's yeah, they're a little bit better, but it's. Almost immeasurable. So right now we're doing some wattage testing on bearings, but how we're able to do it and see the differences is we have to amplify the tests. So we're, overtraining the bearings so that we get out of one bearing. We can get 10 Watts. Actually it's less than that's seven Watts of resistance, but we're over straining this bearing and we'll publish this next year. You'll see it. But in a way to amplify the results. And then we do comparison tests, [00:40:20] Randall Jacobs: and there's some assumptions that need to be made as to whether the relationship between the, load applied and the change in wattage, is it linear? Is it exponential? That's interesting. And I appreciate how transparent you are about this, because it's, it's a question that we looked into when we were developing our wheel line, which use your bearings by the [00:40:40] Matt Harvey: mm-hmm . Oh, [00:40:41] Randall Jacobs: and I had, I had a great conversation. No, thank you. One, you make a great bearing and two you had product available when we needed it, which at that time was, was a big challenge. I had a long conversation with one of your either support people or engineers. I suspect if it was a support person, they have an engineering background cuz they really knew their stuff and talked about the, the different ceramic options and the only one that. That really resonated with me as a potential offering in the future was this XD 15 because of the purported benefits you cite. But listeners should not lose sight of the fact that this is a marginal gain at best in terms of performance. A lot of it is probably coming from the ability to use less restrictive seals and a lighter lubricant in there as opposed to bearings for themselves. But, the, the benefit is there, but if you are unless you are, you know, either riding to the ends of the earth for years on end and want something ultra durable, or you are a high level competitive athlete with a sponsorship and a team car and a mechanic who works on your stuff, ceramic bearings it's not the lowest lying fruit in terms of improving your performance. But at the bleeding edge, if you're going to do it. You would want to do it with something that maintains its performance advantage over time. And that is not true of a lot of ceramic bearings out there. And in fact, quite a few of them are manufactured to a standard such that they're actually worse out of the box than even a traditional steel bearing. [00:42:11] Matt Harvey: Yeah, it, it depends on, so there's a lot of different balls out there. There's only really there's very few factories in the world that make really good ceramic balls, San GOBA, or Panasonic or Toshiba in Japan. And then there's, you, you, there's a lot of balls you don't wanna put in there that are worse than steel balls. So, you know, that's another reason for the price, because if they're really cheap, ceramic bearings, they're probably really cheap for a reason. Cause I know what the price of the balls good balls are, cuz we buy 'em all the time. But that's the first thing is good. Good ceramic balls. You do on sta if you use, so what we're talking about, the other steel, so there's XD 15 steel that we've been talking about, which is called a nitrogen stainless steel. And the other steel that is used almost across the board is called 52, 100 chromium steel. So that's the, it's a that's the steel that everybody pretty much uses in ceramic bearings and it can rust. It's extremely hard. Get it up to like 60 Rockwell, which is really hard. That's why people, that's why factories use it for bearings it's industry standard. But with a ceramic ball, it can wear it out unless you keep up with the maintenance. So that means when the grease is gone, you probably got about two weeks left before that bearing. If you keep riding, if you're running, riding a couple hundred miles a week, you probably. Couple weeks left and then it's gonna be rough. So you gotta keep up with cleaning it and greasing it. And you know, if you clean 'em and grease, 'em ceramic bearings on a regular basis. They, they last a long time and they work. But that's the reality of ceramic bearings with that [00:44:00] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. I look forward to getting some data sets from you because the XD fifteens are actually something that I'm quite interested in for a future offering for us. They're not cheap, but if you, if you actually want to have the benefits both upfront and over time, it is what it costs. Otherwise unless you have a mechanic constantly taking care of your bearings, popping seals and repacking grease, and so on. You're better off with a high quality steel bearing. [00:44:24] Matt Harvey: Yeah, I think so. But you know, I tell people the story. They still buy the regular ceramic bearings all the time. Cuz I, I just can't I come from engineering background, not marketing. So I just kind of tell it like it is, I'll get 'em anyway and they put 'em in and say, you know what, you're wrong. They, they roll better. I can feel it, but you know, that's, I, I get it all the time and it's like, well, it's okay. You know? It's you know, there is a lot of in the mind, especially with bike racers, it is psychological thing, you know, like, if you, if you're on the best bike you think you have, then you probably are faster too. [00:45:00] Randall Jacobs: yeah. There's that? I'll tell you too though. I was friends with the European pro who I was talking. Because I was just coming up and I was never at his level, but asking does it matter all that much? What you're riding and so on. He's like, you honestly, yeah. I wanna win. I wanna have the best equipment, but there's a lot of parody between what's out there and if you pay me enough, I'll ride a shopping cart. [00:45:20] Matt Harvey: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If you're strong, you're strong you'll you are gonna win the race. [00:45:26] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. [00:45:27] Matt Harvey: no, it's, that's very true. I agree. [00:45:30] Randall Jacobs: well, I think ceramic bearings, they have a lot of bling factor. So if you say that your product has ceramic bearings in there, it doesn't really matter. If the bearings are better than a non ceramic bearing, it just matters that you can say ceramic bearings. And now you just marked your product. In the case of a wheel set, it's anywhere from several hundred to a thousand or more that you're able to mark that product up because it is perceived as having the best of the best, even if it's not necessarily the case. [00:45:58] Matt Harvey: Yeah. And in, in the case of XD 15 so it, the ceramic ball is perfect for that material. Number one, when we started, there were no XD 15 balls available. So you would have to use chromium steel or four 40 C stainless balls, which is another bearing steel that's out there. But the problem with four 40 C or an unmatched steel ball in XD 15 is at micro weld. And then you do have problems. So with X micro weld is the ball actually under pressure welds itself to the race in certain situations. So for XD 15, you have to run ceramic balls. And the benefits also are that they won't corrode like the XD 15 material. So. They're they're kind of made for each other in, in this instance. [00:46:49] Randall Jacobs: Interesting. It reminds me of a phenomenon with the doors of the space station, where they were finding that the door could seal shut because you had raw aluminum surfaces that had no oxidization on them. And so that it basically would bond and, and weld in that vacuum. [00:47:04] Matt Harvey: oh my God. And then right when alien shows up, you can't get you can't jettison out of the, your [00:47:11] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. So, so thank you for this dive on ceramics. I find it really fascinating and it was no less. So when I was talking to one of your teammates, so let's talk about the bearings that most of us are riding, which is a steel bearing, typically a stainless steel bearing, what goes into a good bearing for all the different applications on the bicycle so this is everything from headsets to bottom brackets and radio bearings versus angular, contact bearings, and so on. What makes the kind of the best bearing for each one of those applications? [00:47:42] Matt Harvey: so it's a really good question. Let's just go to the com most common bearings. The most common bearing in the bike industry is this number 6, 9 0 2. And so that's an industry standard of a bearing in just briefly 6, 9 0 2. The six refers to radio nine is the series. And then, oh two is the internal diameter. That's if anybody's interested, that's how that works. So 6, 9 0 2 though. So it gives you some specificity about the bearing, because that gives you the ID, the OD and the width. However, what's inside the bearing can vary greatly. You can have different size balls, you can have different. So there's no standard on the 6, 9 0 2 as to what it looks like on the inside, but that's the important part, right? So you can buy a 6, 9 0 2 that works in a printing machine. It's very common in big printers and it's going back and forth, or you can put a 6, 9 0 2 and a turbo charger, and now it's going 50,000 RPM. And now you can put it in a hub and it's going 200 RPM. And it has a lot of axial loads that we talked about earlier. So you'd have a different 6, 9 0 2, even though it's a standard bearing in each of those applications. For instance, if you put a bunch of grease, like we do 85% grease fill in a bicycle 6, 9 0 2, because it's only going 200 RPM and you want it full of grease. If you put that in a turbo charger, bearing, going. 40,000 RPM, that grease is gonna fly out and set the car on fire, [00:49:19] Randall Jacobs: I was gonna say, yeah, I was expecting a flammable situation. [00:49:22] Matt Harvey: Yeah. So, for bicycle application, we or I started by designing the inside of the bearing for the bicycle application. So number one, it's got the biggest ball possible, cuz that's your biggest load bearing capabilities to start with that [00:49:41] Randall Jacobs: okay. [00:49:41] Matt Harvey: second you use the deepest grooves possible that you can design around cuz some of 'em are shallow grooves and you have loads side to side loads, axial loads, and you need to support the ball once the ball rolls past the groove and it's on the edge, you're either like doing some damage or it's not supporting how it can. So deepest grooves, largest balls. And then we look at the seals and we do groove type seals. A lot of, so two RS, 6, 9 0 2, 2 RS, two RS litter means two rubber seals. That's but it doesn't tell you what kind of seal. So we do these seals called LL B and L L U. And those are, we actually machine a groove into the seal at that point. And there's two lips that run inside that groove [00:50:33] Randall Jacobs: Machine into the the races, right? [00:50:36] Matt Harvey: yeah. [00:50:36] Randall Jacobs: Where the seal is interfacing with the race? [00:50:39] Matt Harvey: Exactly. And there's always an external groove to hold the seal, but on the ID, there's often just a flat surface that one lip, a two RS seal just rubs against, but it's not very, and sometimes they don't even make contact on cheaper bearings. You know, you can hold them up to the light and see the light shine [00:50:57] Randall Jacobs: oh, wow. [00:50:57] Matt Harvey: well, it's, it's not even making contact. [00:51:01] Randall Jacobs: which means that all sorts of grime and dirt and dust and water is getting in there in a bike application. [00:51:07] Matt Harvey: Right. And so, like our, so our dual lip LL B L O use one lip, keeps the grease in and then the other is kind of a sweeper seal that keeps the dust out from the outside. And then in between the seals, you get some, when you start turning it, the reason for the full grease fill is some grease comes out and that makes an extra grease seal, if you will, on the, on the idea of the bearing. So, that, [00:51:33] Randall Jacobs: inner inner diameter of the bearing. [00:51:35] Matt Harvey: exactly helps keep the moisture from crawling in, or, you know, [00:51:40] Randall Jacobs: The seal is static relative to the outer race, but the inner race is turning be presumably because it's a smaller surface area. So you have less friction [00:51:48] Matt Harvey: Exactly. Oh, [00:51:50] Randall Jacobs: Yeah. [00:51:50] Matt Harvey: engineering mine there. Yeah. So less friction on the [00:51:53] Randall Jacobs: physics, physics nerd. [00:51:55] Matt Harvey: No, that's good. Yeah. And so yeah, and, and the grease so that's the dynamic lip on the inside and the grease. You got kind of a grease barrier there. So on Enduro bearings, you'll have some grease come out and that's a good thing cuz grease is another barrier that catches dust and holds it back from getting inside. So, that's, that's the basics of how we design the bearing. Of course you have to start out with good balls good material, good steel. It's like making bread or you know, food. You, you gotta start out with good ingredients to have good end results. [00:52:30] Randall Jacobs: And when you say good ingredients, you're talking high precision in the formulation, the right heat treatments, really tight tolerances, high hardness that is also consistent across the entire material. And there's all sorts of technologies that make that possible too. There's a lot that goes into a bearing, even if it looks the same as a cheap bearing. [00:52:51] Matt Harvey: exactly. You gotta get the steel from a good Foundry. It's gotta be clean without pollutants in it. And we're lucky cuz we have the industrial side that we, we buy a lot of steel every year. And so we're able to buy from the bigger foundries that supply, the big boys, you know, the big bearing companies, cuz we're a little teeny bearing company, you know, in this, in the universe of bearing companies, but very niche, you know, area. But we do enough that we can buy good steel because of both sides. But yeah, so you start out with really good, 52, 100 or four 40 C or well, XD 15, obviously you have to start out with really good steel and good steel balls and then heat treatment. So for XD 15, that stuff has to be heat treated on ceramic tables in a you have to pull a atmosphere you know, it it's of gas. So to, to do it properly, it's, it's not just in [00:53:50] Randall Jacobs: an atmosphere of gas. Do you mean like you're doing this in a vacuum? [00:53:53] Matt Harvey: yeah. In an inner gas to to keep it stable. [00:53:56] Randall Jacobs: have oxidization or something like this. [00:53:59] Matt Harvey: we do the same with four 40 C and then we do tri cryogenic treatment as well. So you bring it down to almost absolute zero and that normalizes. The steel, so it lasts longer. So these are the things people don't really know about. With four 40 C and XD 15 it's similar heat treatment. Not exactly the same, but it does go from those ceramic table induction heat treatment to cryogenic treatment. And other bearings can be heat treated in like a gas environment without that atmosphere and so forth. That's why they cost less. But you know, there's different processes for different levels of, of bearings. They're not just all the going through the same process says. [00:54:43] Randall Jacobs: yeah. And it's the sort of stuff where even if you have the technical expertise to be able to understand the nuances of this conversation that we've just had. I think the thing to really make clear is that again, two things that look very similar can have very, very different properties in terms of how they perform out the gate and how they perform over time and to make a quality product. Well, when you buy a product, you're essentially trusting that company and that product manager and, and the decision makers on that product to, to really focus on those details. And it's not just the company, it's not just the product manager. It's also, the team at all of vendors. [00:55:18] Matt Harvey: Yeah, there's a lot of things. You know, I obviously go deep here, one other, we do a lot of things that people just don't know about. Cuz you buy it and you see it. And it's like, well, what's the difference between this one and this other one. And we do for the For the suspension, bearings, the pivot bearings, we do a black oxide treatment. And when we do it, it turns the bearing black and people like it, cuz it looks cool, but it's people like black things and it you know, it, there is an advantage to it because it actually does a second heat treatment to the metal besides making it corrosion resistant. But we gotta take those and we gotta grind it off where the ball rolls because you can't have the black oxide treatment where the ball rolls. Well, there's similar products out there and they're black and they're max bearings, but it's almost like a paint that they do, or sometimes it's black oxide treatment, but that they don't take it off the inside of the, where the balls roll. And what happens is if you do black oxide treatment and you leave it on where the balls roll, that stuff rubs off mixes with the grease and makes a nice paste that wears the bearing out faster than if you just didn't do it at. [00:56:29] Randall Jacobs: Yeah, and there's so much of that in our industry. I think that that's something across the board, but we are a highly technical industry. The bicycle is a highly technical product, and there's so much to know in order to do things right, that you can't really expect a rider to know all of this stuff. And so they're like, oh, ceramic, great. Oh, this black coating. Well, it looks like the other one and it's cheaper. Okay, great. I have the, the latest and greatest but I've seen so many examples, so many examples across the industry, including on projects that I have been involved with and didn't have authority over where decisions are made purely for marketing purposes, purely to get you to think that it's a better thing and to spend more money on something that oftentimes at best it's neutral. And oftentimes it actually makes the bike worse in ways that you will experience over its lifetime. [00:57:21] Matt Harvey: Yeah. And it's, it's hard to get, you know, it's hard to get people interested in say bearings sometimes, cuz you don't see 'em on the bikes now they're all buried. Like, you know, new carbon bikes, you, oh, there's bearings inside that thing you, I mean there's not, you know, used to be, you could see a headset, you know? [00:57:39] Randall Jacobs: We used to press them directly into the carbon frame. cuz that was a good idea. There's there's one other thing that I wanted to call out, which I thought was interesting when I was looking through your bearing catalog, which is using different seals on one side of the bearing versus the other and because the, the risk of contamination is always much greater on the exterior facing seal, but the one on the inside. Well there's not much to contaminate there for example, facing the inside of the hub. So you can run a, a seal that keeps the grease in, but doesn't need to be as as tight for water ingress and dust and dust can be lower friction. So even like those little micro optimizations matter. [00:58:17] Matt Harvey: Yeah. And so, you know, if you roll back like 10 or 15 years ago, everybody wanted bearings in their wheels to spin, like, you know, like a metal roller skate wheel, you know, where you spin it and it won't stop or you see those videos, people doing [00:58:33] Randall Jacobs: The YouTube videos look at how efficient my bike is because when, when there's no rider on it and it's up on a stand, it just spins for a long time. And somehow that is a good proxy for how it performs in the wild [00:58:44] Matt Harvey: Yeah. And so if you take the seals out and put sewing machine oil in there, yeah. You can get it. The spin, like CRA you know, old track bikes used to do that. They'd do that. And but it's on a track, you know, but if you're riding out in the rain and stuff so we used to do getting back to your question. We used to do just LL B seals, both sides on the ABAC five bearings, which was real popular wheel bearing. And, you know, in certain environments especially like Vancouver, wet environments, you know, Vancouver, different places where there's a lot more rain. People say, Hey, you know, we're just the water's the grease is getting washed out too quick. We're getting dirt ingression. So we, we always had L L U seals, but L L U if you use a factory, sorry, industry standard, LLL U seal, it's really tight. And [00:59:32] Randall Jacobs: In L L B versus L L U L L U is the, the tighter, [00:59:38] Matt Harvey: medium contact. Yeah. [00:59:39] Randall Jacobs: okay. Yep. [00:59:41] Matt Harvey: Or, [00:59:41] Randall Jacobs: Versus the LLL B, which is [00:59:44] Matt Harvey: light contact. Yeah. LL B light contact, but LL U in the industry is pretty tight contact. So we make it medium contact. So we had to, we reengineered L L U for bicycle industry, basically. So ours is, is medium contact. So it's an acceptable amount of seal friction. If you do it too much, people just don't like the way their wheels spin and it's really sealed. Right. But it just, you know, you spin it and it goes once around and stops. Like if you had a really tight seal in there, so there's compromises [01:00:19] Randall Jacobs: it's kinda like, you want a bike that lasts forever, but are you willing to add that half pound of weight across the entire bike to make it more durable? You know, that's a half pound that I'll add every day, but if you wanna be in the magazine listed at some headline weight, well some people are only looking at that number. [01:00:37] Matt Harvey: Right. Right. And you know, when you, and, and that's a good point if I could just touch on this, like really super lightweight hubs, which people were going crazy, you know, again, 10 years ago with extremely lightweight hubs with really small bearings. And one of my customers did some tests on those hubs, like versus his hubs, cuz they were heavier and he used a thicker axle and so forth. And in some of those hubs, when you're going up a hill, the bearings, the thin bearings, cuz they're so thin, they're only a millimeter. Thickness of the race. They [01:01:15] Randall Jacobs: Oh, they're distorting. Yeah. [01:01:17] Matt Harvey: they're, they're twisting so much that they're actually locking up and skidding. So you, if you're going up a hill, you essentially have a drag break that you're working against and sure. They're light, you know, you just shaved some weight off your bike. But you're working against yourself because that's, that's like the worst case scenario. Now you got a drag break going uphill. [01:01:40] Randall Jacobs: So I think at this point anyone who's made it this far into the conversation should have an appreciation of just how much goes into not just bearings, but the bike generally to make it function as well as it does. And, kind of a sense of the depth of innovation and all the layers of innovation that have to happen at every level, from the steel maker to how it's heat treated to new coatings to how it's assembled. And so on that go into making a product like a 20 pound bike that can go over single track at high speeds, under a heavy rider and do so day in, day out for years on end. I hope also that folks get a sense of. What you compromise when you push up against the limits of that, because technology and material science and so on can take you so far in, in pushing the envelope in terms of performance and weight and strength and so on. But there is a point at which you're compromising something. And so I want to acknowledge how cool it is to hear and detail the innovation that you and your team have done in order to enable the sorts of highly reliable, high performance bicycles that we have today. And then also the transparency on how that process works and the trade offs and so on. And being able to unpack that with you today has been a lot of fun and hopefully has been informative to some of our listeners here. Is there anything else that you think listeners should know about bearings and, and how to think about them and what to look for? [01:03