A Podcast for the Staff. Working on a church staff requires a multitude of skills. Join Nathan Auxer (nathanauxer.com) and Thomas Nunnery as they interview guests to explore what it takes to thrive working under a pastor. Discover the resources and tools you need, and glean the wisdom from those that are doing what you do. If you are familiar with switching from Music Minister, to Youth Director, to Graphic Designer, to Carpenter, to Bus Captain, and everything in between, then this podcast is for you.
Sometimes following Jesus takes us in unexpected directions. Nathan is going through just such a transition in his life and ministry. Even just a few months ago these changes were not on his horizon. We hope the journey God is guiding him on can be a help to others. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Mark Ward joins us to talk about Logos Bible Software and how it can help students of the Bible and especially those entrusted with the teaching and preaching of the Bible. Download Logos Basics for free here.Look for free resources here.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Thomas talks about prayer and specifically the effort to stand in the gap and pray for others. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Grow. Learn. Change. Indeed, the Christian life is not supposed to become stagnant. But we don't always see the growth we should in our lives. Maybe you need to adjust your goals. More on SMART goals here.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Ephesians 5:15-17 says: "15 See then that ye walk circumspectly, not as fools, but as wise, 16 Redeeming the time, because the days are evil. 17 Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is."Thomas shares some encouragement from his study in Ephesians. In wicked times it is imperative that God's people live carefully in the wisdom that comes from above. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
We say all kinds of stuff that didn't come out right, was goofy, or just wasn't what we meant to say. All that stuff gets cut. Here, for your listening pleasure, are a few times we misspoke, got distracted, or otherwise said silly things. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Nathan talks about a lesson God has spoken to him about recently about how because we can be overly concerned with what we want and need, we need to "Die to Self". Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Thomas talks about a truth that seems to keep coming up in his study. God has this all under control. God is still king.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
What do guests experience when they walk through the doors of your church for the first time? Today on Not The Pastor, Nathan and Thomas talk with Tim Shellenberger about how to know if your church has "The Friendly Factor" or just a "Friendly Front".To listen to our episode when we discussed Calvinism with Tim Shellenberger go here "What's Up With Calvinism?" with Tim ShellenbergerJoin the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Parades are often a fun way for a community to celebrate events, holidays, or special occasions. In our episode today, we are going to talk about getting involved in a parade. We want to share some reasons why you might want to consider participating. Then we will give some practical ideas and some places to start. For pictures and video of our float and flyer click here! Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Nathan and Thomas talk about commentaries that have been helpful in their studies recently. They mention the following:Dale Ralph DavisHarold HoehnerMartin Lloyd-JonesDavid GuzikChanged Into His Image by Jim BergNot a Fan by Kyle Idlemanbestcommentaries.comand Facebook groups like the Ministry Connection Community or the Idea Network CommunityJoin the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
This is an Encore episode from September 15th 2020. If you are hosting events in the new year, the lessons and wisdom from the Adams will be a huge help! Episode 013 - After more than 30 years of being youth pastors, Greg and Tina Adams share some of the lessons they learned from hosting the Northwest Youth Conference. They speak directly about the NWYC but their advice and wisdom applies to any project you find yourself directing.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Thomas and Nathan have a conversation about Daniel chapter 1. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Could you reach your local police force through an opportunity to be a police Chaplain? Today, Nathan discusses the ins and outs of being a police chaplain with Bro. Bill Prater.If you would like to reach out to Bro. Bill Prater directly for more info on becoming a police chaplain, email him at billprater.fbc@gmail.comJoin the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Harvest has had a Harvest Party on October 31st for years. We've learned some things over the years. Maybe some of the stuff we've worked through can help you. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Nathan and Thomas talk with Kevin Higginbotham about the ins and outs of a Christmas Cantata. They discuss everything from "Is a Christmas Cantata worth all of the extra work?" to some specific resources that will help make this years Christmas Cantata excellent at your church.Here are some resources that were mentioned in today's episode:jwpepper.compeckmusicpublishing.comwordchoralclub.comlifeway.comhalleonard.comJoin the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Nathan and Thomas talk about limiting distractions during your preaching service.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
When life gets busy, sometimes it is easy to neglect the most important relationships.Thomas wants to encourage you to make time to connect with your kids. Connect with your spouse. Thomas mentions several apps. You can check those out below. OfficialIntimately UsJust Between UsBetween***These resources have been helpful at times, but may not be for everyone. Not The Pastor certainly does not agree with every statement or stance of the apps or development teams. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Fall is a busy time for most churches and families. Back to school, regular programs and events, ramp up to the holidays and more create a hectic time after the summer. Unfortunately, we can sometimes hold on to our summertime habits long after we should have made the transition back into the swing of things. We have a couple of ideas that might help with that Fall reset. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Seth Anundson, associate pastor at Lighthouse Baptist Church in Mustang, OK, talks to us about ways his church engages its community with the love of Jesus.This episode first aired on September 8th, 2020. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thomas has been taking an adult Sunday School class through Ephesians and has spent the last 6 weeks talking about unity in a church and the gifts that Jesus gives to help make that unity possible. Thomas spends time talking about how to practically cultivate unity and use the gifts God has given you. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0
Sometimes it can feel like we sing the same 15 songs over and over again in church. But how do you introduce and teach the whole church congregation new songs? Where do you find them? How do you introduce them to your song rotation? Samuel Sitler joins us to talk about some of those concerns. Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Do you have fruit that remains? If you are going to effectively reach multiple people in your life, you are going to need a list to keep track of who you need to follow up with. Daniel Davidson talks through the how's and why's of maintaining a Prospect List so that you can steward the souls God brings into your life.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
We are throwing back to our fifth-ever episode! Enjoy this rerun from Luke Sorensen!Episode 005 - Join Nathan and Thomas as they talk to Luke Sorensen from Prineville, OR about leadership and influence.Luke mentions that anyone looking to deepen their understanding of the principles of leadership should start with the book 5 Levels of Leadership by MaxwellLuke also plugs The Bryan Samms Podcast as a podcast that focuses on life, leadership, and ministry.Join the conversation on our Facebook page.Email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
That rule in your life...is it a precept and principle or a preference? What is the difference?Evangelist David Sommerdorf helps us understand which is which and how we ought to respond to each.Find the "10 Principles" document here . (Precepts, Principles and Preferences)Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Ever run a game that was a flop? What was the difference between that time and that time you ran a game that was amazing? Today on NTP Thomas shares some ideas about when should we play games within the church context, why should we play games, and how to make sure they are successful.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
As Christians, we have the opportunity to mimic our Savour when we serve others. As leaders, we have a responsibility to serve. Nathan and Thomas talk about servant leadership and how we can follow Jesus' example. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Joy is with us today with a few words of encouragement for the wives of Not the Pastor. Ministry looks a lot different 7 years and 4 children later for Joy, and she shares some of what God has taught her through it all.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Today Thomas and Nathan talk to Rocky Harrill about why he is a Baptist and why he thinks it is important to stay Baptist. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thomas and Nathan revisit KidsFest outreach. Thomas also talks about Facebook Ads and how a small investment turned into big results. You can listen to our other conversation about KidsFest here.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thomas' pastor is out of the office for several weeks recovering from surgery. Here are a couple of thoughts about how he is ensuring the church is moving forward and ready to go when his pastor returns. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Today, Nathan and Thomas talk about how and why we should befriend lost people. We know we should be reaching the lost, after all Jesus was known as the friend of sinners, but let's face it, most of the people we know are probably already saved. Today's discussion will dive into this issue and hopefully give us a few ideas on how we can make some friendships with lost people and leverage them for the Gospel.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Thomas talks about hosting a youth rally! He highlights the importance of the theme, volunteers, and the preacher. He also shares some of the ways their youth rally changed and was refined over the years. If you have questions or want further clarification, reach out to us via email or Facebook!You would find a great deal of benefit from Ryan Rench's book: One Youth Pastor's Tool BoxJoin the conversation on our Facebook pagePlease email us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Teachers in Oregon have to log 125 Professional Development Units every 5 years in order to keep their teaching license. We do this because we want those responsible for teaching our children to continue to learn and grow. If that is true in the secular, how much more important is growth for spiritual leaders? Thomas talks about some ways that you can on purpose improve your Kingdom work. You can learn more about Heartland Baptist Bible College's MRI here.You can learn more about the Spiritual Leadership Conference here.Check out the Bible Project's Classroom here. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Discipleship is about more than a checklist in the back of a book. Passing on what a Christian needs to know to engage in the kingdom probably doesn't end after 12 weeks. It is going to take living some life together. Thomas and Nathan talk about that in this episode. Listen to our conversation with David Pirkle here!Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Noah Downing joins us again! Today's conversation is about resources he uses to help get the most out of study times. He talks about a conversation that Cary Schmit had about his study process. You can find that here. https://bestcommentaries.com/https://bibleproject.com/Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Noah has a drawn-out process for preparing sermons. On purpose. Today we talk to him about his week 3 process: Style. This is typically where Noah is going to write his introduction, conclusion, and illustrations. He has some great advice that he is going to give for these difficult sections of sermon prep. If you missed our first conversation with Noah you can catch that here:Preparing to Preach with Noah DowningJoin the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
This episode originally aired on March 21st, 2021. Dave Hardy joins us to talk about worship. Bro. Hardy defines worship as “Worship is the voluntary humbling of one person, physically and spiritually, in order to exalt another.”Many churches have a worship service at 11 am on Sunday morning. But going by the definition of the word, perhaps not much worship is actually happening.Bro. Hardy talks to us about how to incorporate worship into the church service and, even more foundational, into our personal lives.You can find Dave Hardy's book Worship and the Ear of God on Amazon.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comFind more from Nathan Auxer at nathanauxer.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/
Today we have Noah Downing back on the show to discuss the second week of his sermon preparation process in more detail. Where should you be after your first week of study? What is the goal for week 2? How can we make sermon outlining a success?If you missed our first conversation with Noah you can catch that here:Preparing to Preach with Noah DowningJoin the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Nathan and Thomas talk through some ideas about how to have a successful church workday. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4
Brother Rodney Woodcock joins NTP to discuss the imperative of prayer, some habits we should have with prayer, and the difference between private and corporate prayer. We dig into the idea of corporate prayer and talk about ways to encourage and incorporate praying together in unity into your church.You can learn more about Bro. Woodcock and his ministry at his website: Revival LivingYou can watch the message from Psalm 59 here. The message starts at 19:50The Place Was Shaken - John FranklinThe Ideal Prayer Meeting - W.H. GroatJoin the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4
What are you doing to help those in need in your community? Thomas and Nathan break down what their churches do to be gracious to those in need. They will discuss what scripture says about doing good to all men and some practical ways you can be prepared to help when the needy show up on your doorstep. We talked about big-picture planning for events on NTP already. Find that episode here. We also mention our previous episode on delegation. Listen to that right here.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Need an event for your couples? Thomas and Nathan break down how to get started. There are some big picture ideas as well as some practical help to make sure that your couple's retreat is doing all you need it to do. We talked about big-picture planning for events on NTP already. Find that episode here. We also mention our previous episode on delegation. Listen to that right here.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Nathan and Thomas talk about what "Go-Sunday" is, how it might add energy to your Evangelism program and how to transition to this format.Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Nathan and Thomas talk about what the new member's class at Hillview Baptist Church is like and offer some ideas about what you can do to help connect potential members to your church. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Noah Downing joins us on NTP to talk about sermon prep. Noah has a great, 4-week process that he uses to slowly prepare sermons in order to eliminate the stress of preparation. Noah mentions the following resources that you should check out: MRI at Heartland Baptist Bible CollegeDeep Work by Cal NewportText Driven Preaching by Daniel AkinJoin the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
With a whole Bible to choose from you'd think it would be easy to decide what to preach next, But sometimes that is hard. Nathan and Thomas talk about some ideas to keep in mind that might help make it easier to decide what to preach next. Thomas was having severe internet issues throughout this episode and had to record his audio on his phone. This resulted in less than optimal audio quality. Sorry about that! Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Dan Nease joins Not the Pastor once more to talk about Church Security Systems. Dan is the head of technology at Hillview Baptist Church and was the lead guy in setting Hillview up with a security system. His advice will be very helpful wether you are starting from scratch with your church's security system or just making some upgrades.If you would like to listen to our previously mentioned episode on Security Teams with Richard Odenthal you can find that episode here. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Nathan and Thomas talk about small groups and how to make the most of them. We talk more about events here. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.
Mike Valdez joins Not the Pastor to talk about children's choirs. Mike is the Children's Pastor at Harvest and leads the children's choir there. He has some helpful tips and great advice if you are looking to start or revamp a children's choir at your church. Join the conversation on our Facebook pageEmail us at notthepastorpodcast@gmail.comMusic:Inspiring Advertising by Rafael KruxLink: https://filmmusic.io/song/5515-inspiring-advertising-License: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.