Notorious ROB Podcast

It's a blend of Rob's favorite worlds: real estate and firearms. Jake Dwyer of 1911 Syndicate started a unique niche marketing strategy revolving around firearms. It's a fun conversation on how effective niches can elevate your business and how you can separate yourself from plain carbon copied strategies.  You can find Jake at www.1911syndicate.com/ Follow Rob on social media: @robhahn Subscribe to the YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/NotoriousROB

A Hahn Solo episode where I discuss why I'm not panicking despite the crypto market tanking 90% or more. It's because you have to have an investment thesis to risk your money in anything, and I have pretty strong convictions on both Bitcoin and altcoins. Also touch on macroeconomics, housing, and the investment thesis for real estate. NOT financial advice; just my personal take on things.

On this episode of Notorious POD, Rob sits down with the co-founders of @properties, Mike Golden and Thad Wong. @properties Christie's International is the largest real estate brokerage firm in all of Illinois, and they specialize in luxury home buying with the highest level of customer service and satisfaction in the market. Rob discusses what sets @properties apart from the competition, and where the brokerage market will be in the coming years. We also discuss the macro issues of the day including rent control, politics, and whether we will see a downturn similar to the housing crisis of 2008-09.  You can find Thad and Mike on LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/thaddeuswong/  https://www.linkedin.com/in/migolden/ Learn more about @properties here: https://www.atproperties.com/chicagoland Follow Rob on social media: @robhahn Subscribe to our YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/NotoriousROB

On a very special episode of Notorious POD, Rob sits down with co-founder of NTRY, Julian Pucci. Julian is a part of a team that is creating an immersive mirror world depicting Toronto. Users of NTRY will be able to tour homes, explore the neighborhoods, and witness traffic as a one-to-one replica of Toronto. They discuss the possibilities for the future using Unreal Engine 5, and how implementation of this software will be a boost to home buying and real estate.    Follow Julian and NTRY GTA at: https://www.ntrygta.com/ Check out the trailer we watched during the show at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll9UauhgjdY Follow Rob on YouTube at:https://www.youtube.com/c/NotoriousROB  

On this week's episode of Notorious POD, Rob speaks with Kevin Oakley about the building process, labor shortages, and the Biden housing relief plan. Finally, they decide whether they're taking the white or the black pill. Learn more about Kevin Oakley:  Learn more about do you convert Listen to Kevin's podcast 'Do You Convert' available wherever you get your podcasts! Contact Rob Hahn and learn more at www.7DSassociates.com!

An experiment in livestreaming, in which I think out loud about Millennial homeownership, the changing nature of the American Dream, and the Biden Housing Plan that was just announced. Originally streamed live on YouTube.

This week on Notorious POD, Rob is talking with a fellow bull all about Opendoor, Tyler Okland, MD. Tyler is a Resident Surgeon at Stanford University, but is passionate about proptech and fintech. This episode was spurred by an argument on Twitter Rob and Tyler got into about Opendoor.  Check out Tyler's Twitter for more: @tyler_okland_md Read his blog posts at https://theoperator.substack.com/  Twitter link:  https://mobile.twitter.com/Tyler_Okland_MD   Substack link: https://theoperator.substack.com Datadoor.io link: www.datadoor.io  

The latest round of news from the world of law and regulations has the industry reeling. I think about why that is, how it's like when reality intrudes, and lessons we can learn from the 2A self-defense community.

This week on Notorious POD, Rob talks with his mentor, Steve Murray. Steve has been in the industry for 44 years, and is the co-founder and a current consultant for RealTrends. Today's talk is all about brokerages and the threats and hopes for the industry. Join us! Read Steve's blog post he referenced in our conversation  Subscribe to the YouTube channel   Follow me on Facebook! Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com!

On this week's episode of Notorious POD, Rob has a special guest! They talk about Sunny's history in the real estate business; how technology has impacted the industry and whether or not these “upgrades” are really the best for agents, brokers, and most importantly, buyers. As much as the industry has changed since 2003, they discuss how much it is still the same. Join us!  And subscribe to the YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/NotoriousROB  Follow me on Facebook! https://m.facebook.com/pg/Notorious.ROB.blog/posts/ Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com! 

I muse about how macro analysts and economists worrying about the possibility of hyperinflation is overlooking the fact that the housing market is already hyperinflationary. The hyperinflation psychology -- the rush to buy something, anything -- is already in effect in the housing market. *There was a technical problem with the audio. The video I referenced is here: "Is It Time to Talk About Hyperinflation?" from Real Vision Finance. https://youtu.be/OqyhhCOF2hI The hyperinflation discussion starts around 33:00 mark.

This week on Notorious POD, Rob talks all things Canada with Tim Hudak of OREA. A self-proclaimed “recovering politician,' turned CEO of OREA; a company representing over 90,000 realtors. They discuss NIMBYism and how it hurts the neighborhoods in both America and Canada. They also discuss the “Homeowner's Bill of Rights,” and how to implement it, if it isn't already.  Here is the Homeowner Bill of Rights: https://liberal.ca/housing/introduce-a-home-buyers-bill-of-rights/ Here is Tim's proposal: https://www.ontario.ca/page/housing-affordability-task-force-report Subscribe to us on YouTube at https://www.youtube.com/c/NotoriousROB Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com! 

In this Musings, I discuss an important and well-considered Twitter thread by Sam Debord, CEO of RESO, where he calls for creating a universal property information repository on the blockchain. While he has kind of addressed the issues with government and implementation, I think he's missing on a few key points. So this episode tries to push the ball forward a bit via debate.

On this week's episode of Notorious POD, Rob sits down with Tobias Peter of American Enterprise Institute. We discuss housing affordability, zoning, and demand boosters. We go into more detail than the US Senate did on Tobias' amazing testimony on potential solutions for the current housing crisis. Tobias tells us we should be subsidizing loans for first time buyers in the hopes of building wealth in lower income markets.  Check out his testimony:  Check out his website: Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com! 

A quick Musings based on a conversation I had at NARPM. I thought it interesting to look at the three main assets that come up whenever people think that currency is getting devalued through government policies: real estate, gold and crypto. There are some real pros and cons to each, and I think it helps to think about them as you evaluate each as a potential inflation hedge investment.

This week on Notorious POD, Rob goes in depth with co-founder of Contactually, Zvi Band on real estate, philosophy, and the importance of human connection. Zvi is a partner with Good Sphere, a coaching program that helps real estate agents with mindfulness. They also talk about the history of Web 1.0, 2.0, 3.0, and how they relate to the Crypto revolution taking the world by storm. Zvi Band's Website: https://zvi.band Zvi Band on Twitter: https://twitter.com/skeevis Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com! 

A Musings where I think about and talk about a question that's been much on my mind of late. The crazy housing market has many sellers thinking they want to get top dollar and sell today. Okay, but if you do, where can you put all that top dollar money? I look at charts, at data, at evidence and wonder where people who do sell could possibly get better returns.

The Notorious Rob is joined by Ryan Coon, co-founder and CEO of Avail, to talk rentals, trends in the rental space, landlords, #renternation, cash vs home, the potential of owning rental properties for you, and how tech can advance the industry by focusing on the individual.  Learn more about Ryan Coon at www.avail.co or connect with Ryan on LinkedIn Listen to Notorious POD Podcast on your favorite podcast platforms or watch us now on YouTube:  Notorious POD on Apple Podcasts Notorious POD on Spotify Notorious POD on YouTube Notorious POD on Stitcher Learn more about Rob Hahn at www.7DSassociates.com! 

I discuss an article on Foundation for Economic Education (Fee.org) that is generally excellent, but leaves out some key facts... leading to what I think is a bit of a miss on solutions.

Rob Hahn is joined by Drew Meyers of Geek Estate to talk about their network of strategists, writers, and designers that apply real estate expertise to everything we do. It's a fascinating conversation that touches on many current topics in the real estate industry.  Learn more about Geek Estate and Drew Meyers at www.geekestate.com. 

In this episode of Musings, I look at AB 1771, a new bill introduced in California legislature to impose a 25% tax on gains from sales of homes owned for fewer than three years. It turns out, the details ain't quite so, and it makes very little sense.

Macroeconomics is a topic that may get some eye rolls, but the truth is that right now is the time when we need to know more about it. Rob Hahn is joined by Taylor Marr, the Deputy Chief Economist for Redfin about inflation rates, investing in real estate, and what the outlook is for the industry.  Learn more about Taylor Marr HERE! 

A look at some recent data showing housing is becoming more and more unaffordable for the average American buyer, why that might be, and why it is not transitory or cyclical. I explore topics from macro analyst Luke Gromen, look at investor purchase data, and then touch on the one thing that could collapse home prices: government.

In which I discuss why 2022 might be a turning point in crypto adoption and decentralization across society.

I recently took part in a panel discussion hosted by Elm Street Technologies. It was a fantastic discussion with other people whose expertise overlaps the world of real estate and the world of crypto and blockchain. During the event itself, we could not get to all of the questions and comments from the audience, and some of them were raising excellent issues we should be discussing as a community. So I thought I would offer my answers to those questions here, to move things forward. Elm Street Technologies Webinar: https://youtu.be/hSUrEx3w_f0 == Notorious ROB: https://notoriousrob.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/robhahn Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Notorious.ROB.blog  

Musings is a solo version of the Notorious POD in which I think out loud about issues in the economy, technology, and real estate industry. This episode is a bit of an exploration, a weaving together of disparate news items that are all interconnected. I look at data on foreclosures in 2021, purchase mortgage applications, the official CPI data, investor activity, and a few other things to draw some conclusions. The overall takeaway is that #RenterNation is coming on fast. Some would argue it's already here, but signs are pointing to 2022 being a crucial turning point. ==== Notorious ROB: https://notoriousrob.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/robhahn Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Notorious.ROB.blog

I really enjoyed this conversation with Tom Woiwode who is not only the broker-owner of a large regional real estate brokerage, Coldwell Banker Access Realty with 13 offices throughout Georgia and South Carolina, but also owns Seabrook Classics, a high-end custom furniture maker, and Savannah Millworks, a custom wood products manufacturer. He's also on the Savannah-Chatham Metropolitan Planning Commission so understands some of the issues that builders and residents and government regulators face. With his wide experience in various aspects of building and selling homes, Tom left a fantastic comment on my recent post about construction costs. I thought it would be great to get into the weeds a bit with Tom, and he was generous with his time and knowledge. We start the discussion with why construction costs haven't come down despite advances in technology. That led directly into a wide range of topics, from materials costs skyrocketing to why skilled labor is so hard to find, why so few young people seem to want to enter the trades, the impact of labor shortage on furniture, woodworking, carpentry, and any of the skilled trades, the pros and cons of pre-fab housing, and we talk about the housing market.

Musings is a solo version of the Notorious POD in which I think out loud about issues in the economy, technology, and real estate industry. In this episode, I look at a report from Morning Consult on where consumers are with banking and finance, and zero in on two sections. The first section is on Millennial financial well being, which is to say, lack of financial well being. And the second section is on mainstream consumer adoption of cryptocurrencies. Both are, of course, related to housing. Housing economics is at the heart of Millennial (lack of) financial well being.

A great pleasure to be able to record a conversation with my good friend Keith Robinson, Chief Strategy Officer of Nexthome. We actually argue quite a bit about all kinds of topics, and this was a public capture of discussions we have privately. It turns out that friends can have healthy back-and-forth debates and learn from each other. I know I learn a ton from Keith, and I hope you can learn a few things from (and be moderately entertained by) two real estate nerds nerding out about nerdy topics.

Musings is a solo version of the Notorious POD in which I think out loud about issues in the economy, technology, and real estate industry. In this episode, I answer questions from a listener/reader from Ep. 33 with Jim Klinge, where we had discussed his predictions about the end of buyer agency from market forces, rather than from regulation or lawsuits. A listener, Hilary, had written some great and detailed questions and I thought it worthwhile to give my thoughts on them.

In this episode, I chat with Jim Klinge of Bubbleinfo.com about his prediction that the end of buyer agency is nigh *without* government action. Jim has been a real estate broker in the San Diego area for decades and has seen the industry change from the ground up. We talk about how the market has changed, how incentives are now against buyer agency, and what we might see over the next few years as a result. 

Musings is a solo version of the Notorious POD in which I think out loud about issues in the economy, technology, and real estate industry. In this episode, I think out loud about AVMs, appraisers and the future of valuation at least for purposes of lenders. I've been researching and investigating valuations and appraisals in the context of Defi lending, and a reader sent me the just published Fannie Mae fact sheet on Desktop Appraisal. This feels like something that is potentially a big deal, so I muse about it. ==== Notorious ROB: https://notoriousrob.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/robhahn Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Notorious.ROB.blog

In this episode, I speak with Marnie Blanco, VP of Industry Relations for the co-ownership pioneer Pacaso. We tackle what it takes to introduce a new idea, that of co-ownership of homes, to the real estate industry, especially to the MLS that we both know and love so well while getting frustrated by it. We also address how Pacaso is dealing with NIMBYism across the communities where it is active, and chat a bit about more fanciful futuristic ideas.

Musings is a solo version of the Notorious POD in which I think out loud about issues in the economy, technology, and real estate industry. In this episode, I react to a wonderful video from Blockworks called "What Will Happen if the Fed Raises Rates with Danielle DiMartino Booth." -- https://youtu.be/QbyPYy204U4 I strongly recommend viewers to consider checking out the Blockworks channel and subscribing if topics like these interest you. -- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCkrwgzhIBKccuDsi_SvZtnQ Since everything is connected, I wanted to weave together the connection between money supply, inflation, asset prices, and homeownership dreams of the next generation.

I truly thought that one of the most significant yet mostly overlooked events of 2021 was the controversy that arose in Missoula, Montana when Brandon Huber, a part-time REALTOR and the pastor of the Clinton Community Church, was brought up on ethics charges with the Missoula Organization of REALTORS. He wrote a letter explaining why his church was withdrawing from a free lunch program with the Missoula Food Bank. Turns out, the church discovered that the Missoula Food Bank included an LGBTQ "Pride" insert in its lunches that was contrary to how the church and its members interpreted the Bible. That led to someone filing a formal complaint with MOR for violation of NAR 10.5 and other provisions, which I collectively call the NAR Speech Code. Huber then brought a lawsuit against MOR and NAR to fight the ethics charges. The national LGBTQ+ Real Estate Alliance weighed in formally, demanding that MOR and NAR remove him from membership, and demanding that Windermere terminate its relationship with him. That in turn resulted in Windermere denouncing Huber, and making substantial donations to the Missoula Food Bank. This small event got national press, albeit in the alternative media, and huge local and regional press even in the Corporate Media. I thought this kerfuffle put NAR in a no-win situation, pointed to a real division within REALTOR ranks that will be resolved one way or another in the next couple of years, and accordingly named Brandon Huber as one of my Seven Most Interesting People in Real Estate in 2021. Thing is, despite all the press that this case garnered, I had never heard Brandon himself speak about what happened, what is going on, and what he hopes to see. Everything we know is from news stories and from his attorney, Matt Monforton, who has been on various media outlets talking about this case. I wanted to correct that. So I am pleased to be able to interview Pastor Brandon (as his church and his lawyer call him) with his attorney, Matt Monforton, and let him present his side of the story. I dig a bit into the lawsuit, the legal theories, and what Huber's understanding of the NAR rules are. We get into his experiences and what he and his attorney hope to see from this challenge. Please note that I have invited the LGBTQ+ Real Estate Alliance to present their perspective in a future podcast, as I think it important to try to be as balanced as possible with a controversial topic like this one. I hope to present that interview soon.

Happy 2022! May it be infinitely better than 2021 was! I thought to kick this year off with a podcast making predictions... or more accurately, discussing and debating predictions already made. My guest is Brian E. Adams of Hooquest, who also made his 2022 Predictions. We talk about his predictions, which are intended to be accurate, and my predictions which are guaranteed wrong. But my predictions have a better soundtrack, so there is that.

I interview Vince Collura, COO, and Lucy Edwards, Director of Client Success for VHT Studios, one of the leading real estate photography networks in the country, on an issue of some importance in real estate that almost never gets talked about: photography and copyrights.We get into the issues with real estate photography and copyrights, why it is that copyright is a real problem, why brokers, agents and even photographers themselves often don't understand the problem, and then explore possible solutions including futuristic blockchain-based solutions.

We return to exploring blockchain technology in real estate with a man whose name was the most often mentioned when I asked my audience for who to speak to. Eric Bryant is a longtime real estate coach and his day job is as the national account director at First American. But he is also the head of southern California chapter of FIBREE.org, the Foundation for International Blockchain and Real Estate Expertise.We get into some of the details about the tech and real estate and where we're at with this technology, what he sees as the real opportunities, and what needs to happen for the industry to get there. As is normal for this series, we're trying to avoid getting too technical but frankly, we can't avoid it entirely.LINKS:FIBREE.ORG: https://fibree.org/Eric Bryant, LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/therecoach/

In this episode, I speak with Peter Lohmann of the Owner Occupied podcast (link below) about problems with REALTOR compensation. He and Kevin Clark debate the issues in a very interesting podcast, and I wanted to follow up with Peter on those discussions. This is a wide-ranging conversation about Peter, property management, REALTORS, NAR, Zillow, etc.-----Peter's Owner Occupied Podcast channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGrk6yRgb0NAOBt10z2VZoAThe episode with Kevin Clark: https://youtu.be/9XvVBvlpAGA

Taking a break from our investigation into blockchain technology and real estate, we turn instead to a proptech entrepreneur who started a company out of personal frustration, only to discover what she thinks is the real problem in real estate: gatekeeping.Wendy Gilch is the founder and CEO of Sellinglater.com, which is morphing into a consumer education community. I include a video of a presentation that she gave to Customer Commons laying out the gatekeeping problem, and why it affects everything for consumers.I am also joined by Sunny Lake Hahn, whose experience as an agent and broker helps to inform the discussion.====Links====Notorious ROB main website: https://www.notoriousrob.comFor Wendy Gilch:Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/wendygilch/Linkedin Selling Laterhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/selling-later/?viewAsMember=trueFacebookhttps://www.facebook.com/sellinglaterInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/selling_later/Youtubehttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UChAAk97NVzNu9-n_RyNy4bwTiktok (Wendy)https://www.tiktok.com/@laterwendyIFUNDWomen Accounthttps://ifundwomen.com/projects/consumer-ally-real-estateWebsitewww.Sellinglater.comDirect Community Linkhttps://Community.sellinglater.com

I speak with the CEO of Toronto Regional Real Estate Board, the largest REALTOR Association as well as the largest single-Association MLS in North America, about their efforts to include blockchain technology in the MLS. As John has long been one of the biggest proponents of this technology in the space, and one of the leaders pursuing innovation using blockchain in real estate, I wanted to learn more about what TRREB is doing and what his vision for the technology is.Again, as before, this conversation gets technical at times, not to the level of true technologists but possibly beyond the interest of everyday agents. Nonetheless, I thought it worth capturing so we all can understand whether and how blockchain could apply to use cases in real estate.

The Blockchain and Real Estate series continues with a conversation with the CEO and Founder of Propy, Natalia Karanayeva, and the Chief Revenue Officer of Propy, Joe Budelli.Fair Warning: This conversation is filled with rather technical topics about blockchain technology, smart contracts, Ethereum blockchain, layer-2 scaling, transaction fees, DeFi and its impact, etc. etc. These topics will be basic to those familiar with blockchain, but it will be some heavy lifting for those who are not. At times, we might sound like we're speaking Martian.But I felt that to understand the implications and impact and potential of blockchain technology on real estate, it was impossible to do otherwise.Many thanks to Natalia and Joe for their time and expertise. I know I've learned a tremendous amount in this conversation, and I hope you will as well.

Part of the Blockchain and Real Estate investigation series. I speak with Thomas Park, CEO and Cofounder of Reitium, a blockchain-based fractional ownership real estate investment platform. We get into the basics, like what is blockchain and why is it relevant to real estate. I ask why blockchain is either necessary or advantageous over centralized database technology. And we have conversations about the promise of this technology for transforming the industry.

As the country steadily moves towards #RenterNation, the future of brokerage may be in a combined horizontally integrated company that offers services in property management, leasing, and property sales.I speak to Scott Brady, owner of Progressive Property Management, Progressive Association Management and Partners Real Estate Group, and a pioneer in the combined prop. mgtm + brokerage model. The newly liberated Sunny Lake Hahn is able to join me in talking to Scott.

I interview Prof. Scott Hemphill, Moses H. Grossman Professor of Law at NYU School of Law and co-director of the Engelberg Center on Innovation Law and Policy. There aren't many human beings who would be a better expert to speak to regarding the various lawsuits in the real estate industry.We discuss the various class action lawsuits on commissions (Moehrl, Sitzer, Leeder, etc.) and what the issues are. We discuss REX v. Zillow as well as REX v. Oregon, which deals with the anti-rebate provisions in Oregon. We discuss policy as Prof. Hemphill is actively involved in policy discussions around antitrust, technology, and innovation.This was one of the most enjoyable and enlightening conversations I've ever had, and I thank Prof. Hemphill for his time and insights.

I speak with Jeff Sibbach and Phil Sexton about the realities of today's real estate, how top agent teams are functioning today, and why he believes Zillow is in fact a competitor. We get into a lot of issues including data, IDX, competition in real estate, technology, big aggregators, and consumer behavior. We debate and disagree, and agree, and hopefully educate ourselves and others.

In this episode, I speak with my good friend and mentor, Phillip Cantrell. He is the CEO and founder of Benchmark Realty, the #1 brokerage by market share in the Nashville area. We discuss a sensitive and touchy topic -- the NAR Speech Codes (10.5 and beyond) and how conservative REALTORS feel about the direction of local, state and national REALTOR organizations.I think Phillip is representative of a silent majority of REALTORS out there who are somewhere between uncomfortable and enraged about NAR's shift in direction in getting more and more involved with social/political issues. I say "silent majority" because so few people are willing to take a stance on these divisive issues and talk about how they feel about them. Phillip is the rare leader who is willing to be open about his feelings and thoughts, knowing that it could be controversial. I can say from personal knowledge that there are many, many REALTORS who are unhappy but stay silent. Silence should not be taken as agreement, or even acquiescence.For being willing to share his thoughts, I thank Phillip. For listening, I thank you. This may be a conversation we need to surface and have to see if the REALTOR movement can actually be salvaged.-rsh

I speak with my friend Keith Robinson, Chief Strategy Officer of NextHome, and one of the smartest guys in the industry who follows economic trends that affect housing. He wrote a great post about whether we're seeing a housing bubble or not, and we discuss and debate what's actually going on.

I saw a Facebook post talking about a common problem with real estate agents -- buyer disloyalty. That got me wondering, why aren't we moving towards agents getting paid by the hour? It would solve so many problems.The way that real estate agents are getting paid leads to a lot of issues, one of which is the problem of client disloyalty. A few others -- desperation, lack of differentiation, not being paid like a real professional, lack of alignment in the interests of the client and the agent, etc. I thought I would muse on this as I've been thinking and talking about it for years.

I get inspired by a Listing Bits podcast with Sam DeBord and Michael Wurzer, and decide to join the conversation by talking about LEAP. I think we're not engaging in needed conversation that might make the entire thing less important about the role of the MLS in 2021.

This is an experiment of sorts, but I wanted to record something where I am solo talking about one of my posts or articles or papers. I chose The Future of Brokerage white paper (free on Notorious ROB) as I've been getting questions about it from brokers when I talk about it on my presentations.