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Welcome back to Date Night! We have lots for you today: A failed house bid, a service dog airplane plan for Penny, Summer House hot takes, Love Island feelings, Knicks obsession, and a surprisingly deep conversation about trusting your own instincts. Plus, Bodega vs Deli, Whit's sweet + tart cravings, several airing of grievances, and a new family dream that may involve pulling Sonny out of school and traveling the world. Sweetness and chaos, as always. XOXOThis episode is brought to you by Obé Fitness. If you are looking for something that helps you stay consistent without overthinking it, try Obé Fitness free for 30 days at obefitness.com with code WHIT.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The real estate investing moves you make today could change your life. Those in their 40s, 50s, and 60s often look back and regret not starting sooner. Today's guest isn't letting that happen, and in this episode, she'll show YOU how to take advantage when that next rental property comes your way! Welcome back to the Real Estate Rookie podcast! When Megan Chou's father challenged her to read the personal finance classic, Rich Dad Poor Dad, little did she know it would completely alter her life's trajectory. The book's lessons on building wealth inspired her to stash her money away in a brokerage account and, at just 20 years old, buy her very own rental property—a townhome she house hacked with her best friend. Then, only two years later, right as she was graduating from college, she took down a fourplex—renovating each unit while living in it, one by one. Stay tuned as Megan shares how she leveraged her home equity to buy it, what went wrong after buying the property, and how she stayed resilient when her property started fighting back! In This Episode We Cover How Megan bought her first two rental properties (while still in college!) How to fund your next investment property using your existing home equity What Zillow, Redfin, and the MLS can't tell you about properties or neighborhoods Bouncing back from ice, raccoons, and plumbing failure on the same property Two crucial things to do when experiencing a setback with your property And So Much More! Check out more resources from this show on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BiggerPockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠h⁠t⁠⁠tps://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/rookie-728. Interested in learning more about today's sponsors or becoming a BiggerPockets partner yourself? Email ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠advertise@biggerpockets.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

AI is updating at a pace most of us have never had to keep up with, and that speed is exactly why so many smart people feel overwhelmed or suspicious. We sit down with Saiid Zamani, an AI trainer and active real estate agent, to make it simple, practical, and real. Our goal is not to hype the tech or fear-monger about robots. We want to show how AI actually fits into everyday work and where the “human advantage” still wins every time.We talk about what AI is already changing, from toll booths disappearing to the way buyers search for homes on platforms like Homes.com, Zillow, and Redfin. Saiid explains why AI may replace certain tasks, but it does not replace trust, emotional intelligence, and the ability to read the room, which is the core of real estate and most relationship-driven businesses. We also break down how agents and small business owners can use AI to follow up faster, write clearer messages, and deliver more value without building a giant team.Then we get hands-on with tools: ChatGPT, Google Gemini, Claude, and Google NotebookLM. Saiid shares how he uses AI as a “thought partner,” including voice conversations to sharpen presentations and turn daily notes into bullet points and checklists. We also cover free vs paid plans, why limits matter when you use AI heavily, and the two guardrails we both care about: privacy and personalization settings.If you've been curious but hesitant, give this conversation 10 to 15 minutes of your attention and take one small step after you listen. Subscribe, share this with a friend who's still on the fence, and leave a review with the AI tool you're trying first. ---Welcome to The Brad Weisman Show, where we dive into the world of real people, real life, and everything in between with your host, Brad Weisman!

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com A new Redfin report says investor home purchases just fell to their lowest level since 2020. In this episode, we break down why investors are pulling back, what it says about today's housing market, and which property types are feeling the impact the most as higher mortgage rates and slowing price growth reshape real estate.

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Darryl Fairweather, Chief Economist at Redfin and author of Hate the Game: Economic Cheat Codes for Life, Love, and Work, joins us to explain why the housing market is doing something it almost never does here: cooling off.In this episode we break down the recent headlines that stopped Seattleites mid-scroll: prices here are dropping here faster than anywhere else in the country. Fairweather points to the perfect storm behind the slowdown: sky-high mortgage rates hitting expensive markets the hardest, Amazon layoffs, and a local tech sector that's lost the confidence it had pre-pandemic. She says San Francisco is eating Seattle's lunch right now, thanks to its AI boom.But Darryl also sees a silver lining: a slow, steady reset could finally make Seattle more livable and affordable for working people.We also get into the policy fights. Should Seattle build its way out of the crisis with more market-rate housing, or invest in social housing? (She says: yes, and yes.) Why does she think rent control or stabilization backfires? What can Seattle learn from Austin's building boom, and what should it absolutely not copy?And what about AI? Darryl thinks it could genuinely help by speeding up permitting or making modular housing cheaper to build. But she's not buying the hype wholesale. Contractors still need to show up and do the work, and no algorithm is going to fix a bureaucratic bottleneck.Send us a text! Note that we can only respond directly to emails realseattlenice@gmail.comThanks to Uncle Ike's pot shop for sponsoring this week's episode! If you want to advertise please contact us at realseattlenice@gmail.comSupport the showYour support on Patreon helps pay for editing, production, live events and the unique, hard-hitting local journalism and commentary you hear weekly on Seattle Nice. 

Chicago is once again making national headlines, and this time for all the right reasons.Nobody Saw This Coming: Chicago Leads America In Home Price Growth While Investors Pull BackWhile many housing markets across the United States are experiencing slower growth, declining investor activity, and affordability challenges, Chicago has emerged as one of the strongest-performing real estate markets in America.In this episode of People, Not Titles, hosts Steve Kaempf and Matt Lombardi break down the latest housing market data, investor trends, policy changes, and economic developments that are shaping the future of real estate across Chicago, Illinois, and the nation.We discuss why Chicago is leading the country in home price appreciation, what the latest Redfin investor report reveals about shrinking investor purchases, how rising mortgage rates continue to impact buyers and real estate professionals, and what the newly approved Illinois Property Tax Sale Reform could mean for homeowners, investors, and local governments.You'll also hear our insights on the future of the housing market, Berkshire Hathaway's major expansion into homebuilding, Federal Reserve policy expectations, mortgage rate forecasts, and the opportunities that still exist for investors willing to adapt to today's changing market conditions.Whether you're a homeowner, first-time buyer, Realtor, investor, lender, entrepreneur, or simply interested in understanding where the real estate market is heading next, this episode delivers valuable market intelligence, practical insights, and real-world analysis you can use immediately.00:00 Chicago Real Estate Market Update01:45 Massive Commission Settlement News05:30 Investors Pull Back From Housing Market10:20 The New Reality For Real Estate Investors14:05 Chicago Investment Market Breakdown17:15 Housing Slowdown Impacts Realtors22:10 The Realtor Industry Shake-Up25:00 Chicago Becomes America's Hottest Housing Market29:00 Berkshire Hathaway Expands Into Housing31:45 New Illinois Property Tax Rules35:00 Mortgage Rates & Fed Predictions37:00 Chicago Bears Stadium Decision38:37 Thanks For WatchingTopics Covered:• Chicago leads the nation in home price growth• Investor purchases hit their lowest level since 2020• The shrinking real estate agent population• New Illinois property tax sale legislation explained• Berkshire Hathaway's latest housing acquisition• Federal Reserve outlook and mortgage rate predictions• Housing affordability and inventory challenges• Real estate investing opportunities in 2026• Chicago market forecast and expert insightsPeople, Not Titles is dedicated to highlighting successful professionals, sharing proven success principles, and helping individuals build stronger businesses, careers, investments, and communities.Full Episodes:[www.peoplenottitles.com](http://www.peoplenottitles.com)Follow People, Not Titles:Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/peoplenottitlesFacebook:https://www.facebook.com/peoplenottitlesX (Twitter):https://twitter.com/sjkaempfSpotify:https://open.spotify.com/show/1uu5kTvSubscribe for weekly real estate market updates, investment strategies, industry insights, and interviews with top-performing professionals across the country.#ChicagoRealEstate #HousingMarket #RealEstateInvesting

Many investors get their OFFER PRICE completely wrong. Then they end up dropping the price, later or just walking away from the deal cause they can't sell the contract. In this episode, I break down three free Redfin numbers that tell you exactly where your market stands before you buy, before you list, and long before the panic sets in.You'll learn:What the median days on market number is really telling you, and why the investor who panics at day seven is burning money for no reasonThe list-to-sell ratio hiding inside Redfin that reveals what homes are actually closing at (not what they're listed at)The price band breakdown that shows which slice of your market is moving, and which is deadWhy checking this data when you list is already too late… and the one monthly habit that keeps you three moves ahead of every other investor in your marketKnowing your list-to-sell ratio keeps you from overpricing on the exit.But if your ARV was wrong before you bought, no amount of market data saves the deal.The upcoming Deal Analysis Workshop is where you fix that...Learn to run the numbers right before you ever make an offer:Register to our FREE Deal Analysis WorkshopLINKS & RESOURCES1,000 FREE Seller LeadsGet your first 1,000 seller leads FREE from our partner BatchLeads and start closing deals immediately. CLICK HERE: http://leads.getbatch.co/mztQkMr7 Figure Flipping UndergroundIf you want to learn how to make money flipping and wholesaling houses without risking your life savings or "working weekends" forever... this book is for YOU. It'll take you from "complete beginner" to closing your first deal or even your next 10 deals without the bumps and bruises most people pick up along the way. If you've never flipped a house before, you'll find step-by-step instructions on everything you need to know to get started. If you're already flipping or wholesaling houses, you'll find fast-track secrets that will cut years off your learning curve and let you streamline your operations, maximize profit, do MORE deals, and work LESS. CLICK HERE: https://hubs.ly/Q01ggDSh0 7 Figure RunwayFollow a proven 5-step formula to create consistent monthly income flipping and wholesaling houses, then turn your active income into passive cash flow and create a life of freedom. 7 Figure Runway is an intensive, nothing-held-back mentoring group for real estate investors who want to build a "scalable" business and start "stacking" assets to build long-term wealth. Get off-market deal sourcing strategies that work, plus 100% purchase and renovation financing through our built-in funding partners, a community of active investors who will support and encourage you, weekly accountability sessions to keep you on track, 1-on-1 coaching, and more. CLICK HERE: https://www.7figureflipping.com/runway Connect with us on Facebook and Instagram: @7figureflipping Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What's really happening behind the scenes at Redfin, Rocket, and the growing battle over private listings?   In this episode of Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered, James Dwiggins and Keith Robinson sit down with Joe Rath, Head of Industry Relations at Rocket and a longtime Redfin leader, for one of the most candid conversations yet about where the industry is heading next.   Joe pulls back the curtain on the Rocket + Redfin acquisition, the real strategy behind "coming soon" listings, the Compass partnership, and why the future of real estate may look very different than most agents expect.   The discussion dives into MLS policy, private inventory, consumer behavior, seller psychology, and the tension between technology ecosystems and trusted agent relationships. Keith pushes back hard on the idea that platforms matter more than people, while Joe explains why the industry is evolving toward a more flexible consumer experience.   They also unpack Glenn Kelman's leadership style, the future of hyperlocal agents, and why some of the biggest industry shifts are already happening quietly behind the scenes. If you want the inside story on what's really coming next in real estate, don't miss this one.   Links mentioned during the episode: Episode with Glenn Kelman: https://youtu.be/4NwncL4bJsY   Connect with Joe on LinkedIn.   Check out Rocket on LinkedIn - Instagram & Redfin on LinkedIn - Instagram.   Subscribe to Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/@RealEstateInsidersUnfiltered?sub_confirmation=1 To learn more about becoming a sponsor of the show, send us an email: jessica@inman.com   You asked for it. We delivered. Check out our new merch! https://merch.realestateinsidersunfiltered.com/   Follow Real Estate Insiders Unfiltered Podcast on Instagram - YouTube, Facebook - TikTok. Visit us online at realestateinsidersunfiltered.com.   Link to Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/RealEstateInsidersUnfiltered Link to Instagram Page: https://www.instagram.com/realestateinsiderspod/ Link to YouTube Page: https://www.youtube.com/@RealEstateInsidersUnfiltered Link to TikTok Page: https://www.tiktok.com/@realestateinsiderspod Link to website: https://realestateinsidersunfiltered.com This podcast is produced by Two Brothers Creative. https://twobrotherscreative.com/contact/  

On today's episode, Editor in Chief Sarah Wheeler talks to Paul Gigliotti, CEO of California MBA, to talk about how the association is working with the governor's office on a financing solution to rebuild homes affected by the wildfires. The two also discuss the appointment of Rohit Chopra to head the state's new Business and Consumer Services Agency. Related to this episode: Rohit Chopra to head California consumer services agency HousingWire | YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More info about HousingWire The Top 5: MBA urges rollback of mortgage rules as rates stay high FHA targets flipping rule repeal and AVM reforms Rocket Mortgage, Redfin launch homebuyer savings program Policies to Unlock Housing Supply and Boost Affordability Why a 2008 housing crash can't happen again To learn more about Total Expert click here. The HousingWire Daily podcast brings the full picture of the most compelling stories in the housing market reported across HousingWire. Each morning, listen to editor in chief Sarah Wheeler talk to leading industry voices and get a deeper look behind the scenes of the top mortgage and real estate.

The private listing war is getting hotter, and this week Zillow, Compass, MRED, Bright MLS, Redfin, and "Coming Soon" listings are all in the middle of it. In Episode 361 of This Week in Real Estate, we're breaking down the escalating battle over private listings, portal access, MLS control, and who really gets to decide where homes show up online. Zillow is fighting to keep Chicago listings on its platform, Compass is gaining major MLS ground, Redfin is changing how some pre-marketed listings appear, and new survey data shows sellers may be more interested in "Coming Soon" strategies than the industry wants to admit. We'll also talk about Zillow's new dual-agency findings, a fake Trump post that somehow became real estate discourse, and what all of this means for agents, consumers, MLSs, and the future of listing exposure. Plus, we're looking at the housing market side of the week: pending sales jumping to their highest level since 2022, home prices inching higher, price drops becoming slightly less common, homeowners feeling the pressure of ownership, and a major housing bill agreement that could give investors a win. Big questions this week: Are private listings becoming a consumer choice or an industry power play? Is Zillow defending transparency, defending traffic, or both? Are MLSs losing control of the listing ecosystem? And is the housing market finally stabilizing, or just shifting into a new kind of weird? Join us live on YouTube for sharp analysis, real estate industry drama, housing market updates, and a no-fluff breakdown of what these stories actually mean. Subscribe for weekly real estate news, housing market trends, mortgage updates, industry lawsuits, MLS drama, brokerage news, and real talk for agents, buyers, sellers, and investors.

Santa Clarita Valley real estate update for Saturday, May 17, 2026.In this episode:Inventory in SCV has climbed by roughly 200 active listings over the last two months. Absorption rate has barely moved since the end of 2025. Mortgage rates are creeping up because the 10-year bond is shaky on the back of global instability, oil prices, and a wait-and-see Fed posture.For BUYERS in a hot pocket: the no-contingency game is mostly dead in SCV right now. A few years ago we saw buyers waive everything to win. Today, smart buyers are keeping their investigation period. Hear why removing all contingencies is a sticky place to be — and what to ask your agent if they're pushing you that way.For SELLERS: the #1 mistake right now is the wrong valuation strategy. Typing your address into Zillow, Redfin, or Realtor.com triggers automated AI surveillance — your property becomes a target for marketing systems before you've even decided to list. Hear the smarter way to get a real valuation from a local agent who represents SELLERS ONLY.

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com New housing data released this morning showed a surprising shift in the market—and it could say a lot about where homebuyer demand is headed next. In this episode, we break down the latest pending home sales report from Redfin, discuss what may be driving the sudden increase in activity, and explore an important psychological trend that may be starting to emerge among buyers. We also discuss mortgage rates, affordability, inflation concerns, and whether the housing market may be entering a new phase after years of stalled activity.

Roger Blankenship is back — and he didn't come back quiet. After more than two years away, the Flipping America Show returns for Season 8 with real news, real analysis, and the story of how Roger and Dianna survived Hurricane Helene trapped in a North Carolina mountain cabin while a 200-foot drop crept to within six inches of their front door. This episode covers seven stories reshaping real estate right now: Zillow and Realtor.com joining forces on pre-market listings, mortgage rates stuck at 6.3–6.5% with no relief in sight, how tariffs could mean 450,000 fewer homes built through 2030, why new homes are suddenly cheaper than resale for the first time in decades, the FTC antitrust case moving forward against Zillow and Redfin, why everybody talking about Flint should know better, and what Kevin O'Leary got exactly right about New York's mayor being Miami's best real estate agent. Plus — the featured tip from REI Quick Tips: "You Can't Take a Riverboat Cruise in a Drainage Ditch." There's a river of money flowing through the rental property business. Your job is to find the stretch with water in it. Listener questions are back. Send yours to questions@flippingamerica.net. Find funding for your next deal at flippingamerica.net/funding. Subscribe to REI Quick Tips free at flippingamerica.net/quicktips.

Episode 360: Zillow Sues Compass, Private Listings Explode & the Housing Market Gets Weird The private listing war just went nuclear. On today's episode of This Week in Real Estate, we're breaking down Zillow's new federal lawsuit against MRED and Compass, a case that could reshape the future of MLS data, private listing networks, portal power, brokerage strategy, and consumer access to housing inventory. Zillow claims MRED and Compass are working together to restrict listing data access and force Zillow to promote private listings, while the broader industry is already locked in a battle over who controls the future of home search. And Zillow isn't the only player making moves. We'll also dig into the growing "brokerage boardroom drama" across the industry, including the launch of Cotality's Broker Listing Exchange with Keller Williams and HomeServices of America on board. The new BLX platform gives brokerages a centralized way to manage listing data, pre-market activity, and distribution across MLSs, portals, and partners. Then we're looking at another major brokerage shakeup: eXp World Holdings acquiring NextHome and pushing toward a new multi-platform model. Add in Real Brokerage, Compass, Zillow, Realtor.com, Redfin, Rocket, RE/MAX, Anywhere, Keller Williams, and HomeServices, and the pattern is clear: the biggest names in real estate are racing to control platforms, listings, data, agents, and consumer attention. We'll also break down what the latest Q1 earnings from Real, Compass, Zillow, and Realtor.com reveal about where the real estate industry is heading. Real Brokerage reported major year-over-year growth before announcing its RE/MAX acquisition, Compass posted strong results following the Anywhere deal, Zillow saw big growth in mortgages and rentals, and Realtor.com has now posted six straight quarters of revenue growth in a sluggish housing market. Then we shift to the housing market itself, where the data is giving mixed signals. Pending home sales hit their highest level in nearly four years, buyer demand is showing signs of life, and home prices posted their biggest increase in over a year. But higher mortgage rates are still weighing on buyers, affordability remains brutal, and the buyer advantage that defined much of the market may already be starting to shrink. And finally, we'll talk about one of the strangest future housing stories of the week: tiny AI data centers potentially coming into American homes. Is this the next weird intersection of real estate, energy, AI infrastructure, and household income? Or just another tech idea looking for a place to land? Today's show is packed with real estate lawsuits, private listings, MLS drama, brokerage consolidation, platform wars, mortgage rates, home prices, buyer demand, housing affordability, and the future of how homes are bought and sold. No fluff. No fear-mongering. Just real talk about what's happening in real estate right now. Topics we're covering: Zillow sues MRED and Compass over private listings The fight over MLS data, PLNs, and listing access Cotality launches Broker Listing Exchange with KW and HomeServices eXp acquires NextHome Real, Compass, Zillow, and Realtor.com earnings Brokerage consolidation and platform wars Pending home sales hit a multi-year high Buyer leverage starts to shrink Home prices rise again Mortgage rates keep buyers under pressure Tiny AI data centers inside homes? Subscribe for weekly real estate news, housing market updates, mortgage rate conversations, agent strategy, brokerage analysis, and the stories shaping the future of the industry.

There’s a scene that shows up in just about every spaghetti Western movie: the showdown. Two guys at opposite ends of a dusty street... their hands are hovering near their holsters... but neither one wants to draw first. Welcome to Seattle's housing market. What does this standoff mean if you’re trying to buy or sell a home right now? And could it finally drive prices down? On today's episode, we check in on the spring real estate market with Daryl Fairweather, Redfin's chief economist and author of Hate the Game: Economic Cheat Codes for Life, Love, and Work. Do you have a story idea for us? We'd love to hear about it. Give us a call at (206) 221-7158 and leave a voicemail. You can also email us at booming@kuow.org.Thank you to the supporters of KUOW, you help make this show possible! If you want to help out, go to kuow.org/donate/boomingnotes.Booming is a production of KUOW in Seattle, a proud member of the NPR Network. Our editor is Carol Smith. Our producers are Lucy Soucek and Alec Cowan. Our hosts are Joshua McNichols and Monica Nickelsburg.Support the show: https://kuow.org/donateSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com/ Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com How many people right now feel stuck in their current home? In this episode, we break down a major housing market trend that may be quietly reshaping inventory, home sales, and buyer behavior across the country using data from Redfin, National Association of Realtors, and Intercontinental Exchange.

Jessey sits down with Joe McCall, a real estate investor who has been in the game since 2006 across houses, wholesaling and now land. Joe is seeing something a lot of people are missing right now: direct mail response rates are actually going up, not down. And he has the data to prove it.In this episode Joe breaks down his exact process for finding where the money is moving, drilling down to the right zip codes, and sending simple ugly postcards that get sellers calling. No fancy systems, no secret lists. Just brilliant basics done consistently.If you have been on the fence about direct mail or second guessing your market, this episode will set you straight.What you'll learn: - How to use Landwatch, Redfin and ChatGPT to find the most active markets right now- Why ugly plain text postcards outperform glossy mailers every single time- How Joe averages $750 to $1,000 in marketing cost per deal using direct mail- Why 75% of deals come from follow up and how to build a system around it0:00 Introduction1:11 Why Joe thinks the doom and gloom narrative is wrong2:55 13% response rate on postcards and what that means4:49 How to follow the money using Landwatch and Redfin6:01 Drilling down from state to county to zip code8:38 How to use ChatGPT to analyze sold data fast9:01 Building your list and filtering for motivated sellers10:17 The third notice postcard and how Joe softened it11:06 The ninja trick: answer the phone live when they call12:46 Why 75% of deals come from follow up15:49 Why uglier postcards get more calls18:05 Direct mail response rates are actually rising right now19:03 How many postcards Joe sends per week and per zip code23:49 Why postcards outperform letters every time28:02 Stop reinventing the wheel, go where the money is going32:38 Sell people what they want, not what you haveConnect with Joe McCall:YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Joe-McCallPodcast: search Joe McCall on any podcast platformBook: FlipDirtBook.comShownotes:Winning Postcards Framework Webinar / May 12 at 11am PST/2pm ESTSave your spot: www.pebblerei.com/winningpostcards

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com/ Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com Redfin just released its list of the hottest neighborhoods in America for 2026—and some of the results are surprising. In this episode, we break down the latest trends, what's driving demand in these areas, and the bigger story this data may be telling us about today's housing market. If you're a homeowner, buyer, seller, or investor trying to understand where the market may be headed next, this is an episode you don't want to miss.

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com/ Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com Inventory is rising across the housing market… fast. But home prices aren't crashing. Something doesn't add up. In this episode, we break down the latest housing market data from Realtor.com and Redfin — along with insights from Intercontinental Exchange — to understand what this shift may be signaling for home prices, inventory, and the housing market in 2026.

Subscribe for ad-free episodes + bonus content: https://realestatemarketminute.supercast.com/ Instagram: @thesalibgroup Email: mark@thesalibgroup.com In this episode of Real Estate Market Minute, we break down the latest weekly housing market update from Redfin, released April 24, 2026, and walk through what it's showing about buyer activity right now. Unlike traditional housing reports that lag by weeks or even months, Redfin's data provides a near real-time look at what buyers are actually doing — from pending home sales to inventory levels, days on market, and price reductions.

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Keith shows how simple buy-and-hold real estate can be a powerful path to long-term wealth.  He explains how the tax system and inflation often reward property owners—especially those with fixed-rate debt and rental income—turning modest rent increases into outsized gains in cash flow. Keith also explores how broader economic forces and neighborhood trends shape real estate markets, and why even an extra $1,000 a month in passive income can meaningfully increase your freedom, reduce reliance on a single job, and move you closer to financial independence. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE I'm your host. Keith Weinhold. Learn how rent inflation makes real estate investors wealthy. Do certain grocery stores in your neighborhood stoke real estate prices, then how just $1,000 of extra monthly cash flow can be surprisingly life changing. Today, on get rich education,   Keith Weinhold  0:24   Let me ask you something, if you've worked hard to build wealth, is your money positioned to actually support your goals? A lot of accredited investors leave capital sitting in cash because it feels safe, but inflation and missed income opportunities can quietly erode its value. Freedom. Family investments offers freedom notes for investors seeking structured income backed by real estate. It's a straightforward approach built on real assets, not speculation and full disclosure. I'm an investor myself. What I like is that their team walks you through how it all works, so you can decide if it aligns with your portfolio and income goals. Every investment carries risk and nothing is guaranteed, but with a track record of consistent on time investor payouts, they built real credibility. Go to freedom. Familyinvestments.com to book a clarity call or text. Family 266, 866, that's family 268, 66   Speaker 1  1:28   you're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education. You Chris,   Keith Weinhold  1:44   Welcome to GRE I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, it's the show that coined the phrase real estate pays five ways. This is get rich education. You learned how to work at your job. The reason we're here is to make you aware that capital compounds labor doesn't, and that's almost why you have to be an investor today. A couple weeks ago, we had tax day in the USA, and that's not quite a holiday. Virtually no one celebrates it. Yes, here in our 250th year of existence as a nation that erstwhile mentioned semi quincentennial. How did America go from fighting a revolution over a 2% tax on a breakfast beverage at the Boston Tea Party to what we pay today? Have you really processed what this has come to now we're taxed when we earn money, taxed when we spend it, taxed when we save it, taxed when we invest it, even taxed when we die with it. And that's just the start. Think about your typical day, your routine. We commute to work in a car, were taxed to register driving on roads. Were taxed to build fueled by gas that's taxed again and then often paying tolls on top of that. Well, those taxes are supposed to maintain the infrastructure, like bridges, highways and tunnels, but yet, they already have billions of taxpayer dollars allocated to them. Then we arrive at an office that's taxed to exist inside a business that's taxed to operate that requires permits and licenses that act like other layers of taxation. When we finally get our paycheck, our employer matches payroll taxes on top of our wages, just incredible. And at the end of the day, we go home to a property we're taxed to own every single year, purchased with income that was already taxed in the first place, and somehow all of this is considered normal. Here's the turning point. Most people when they realize this, feel frustrated and saddened and even victimized. But instead, real estate investors flip the frame from victim to strategist, the same system that taxes seemingly everything quietly rewards those who own assets through depreciation, we report a loss even when the property produces real cash flow. Last week, I told you how you can specifically lower your property taxes step by step, then through mortgage interest and operating expenses, we can reduce that amount of our income that's even taxable at all through long term leverage, we're often repaying debt with inflated dollars, while our tax burden stays surprisingly low, and then it gets even more power. Powerful, more advanced real estate investors use a cost segregation and bonus depreciation to pull years of deductions forward into today. And it's something that's not really that sophisticated or tough to understand either. And then when we sell a property 1031, and 721, exchanges help us defer the capital gains tax. And when you start to think about it, could these turnabouts even get us patriotically excited for a dare I say, semi quincentennial.   Keith Weinhold  5:36   our system of taxation, it can feel punitive. Some high earners lose more than 55% of their income to taxes, both federal and state. Real estate investors don't just earn gains in income. We reshape it. We continue to thrive in a tax system that rewards ownership. Not only is wealth built from owning things rather than having a high salary, tax breaks are gained by owning things rather than having a high salary. And now it's somewhat common knowledge that war leads to inflation. The latest Middle East conflict entails a lot of military spending, and it's been made worse by disrupting an energy producing region. Four weeks ago, I told you about why wars are inflationary and just how bad it can get. That is why the first major wartime inflation reading that we got was so telling. And wow, inflation grew at the fastest annual rate from one month to the next since the pandemic spike back in 2022 it went from 2.4% up to now 3.3% just like that. And with more inflation poised to come along, even if the war winds down, and I want to talk more about how this benefits you shortly. And yes, if you're a newer listener, you're not used to inflation benefiting you, but it benefits the educated and the aware. GRE listener. And first, here's what fewer people pay attention to. M2 money supply that's jumped 4.8% annually to a record of almost $23 trillion now the money supply, this is the 24th consecutive monthly increase the supply was only about $5 trillion back in 2000 10 trillion by 2012, 15 trillion in 2020, and then the pandemic made the money supply explode, and it's almost 23 trillion today. And what does this all mean that the US dollar is losing purchasing power at a historic pace, because, look, inflation is actually not rising prices. The thing that's now up to 3.3% the CPI. Rather, inflation is an expansion of the money supply. It inflates. That is the very etymology of the word people often overlook that. That's why I'm talking about the historic expansion rate of the money supply, and how that can show up in higher prices later. High prices are not inflation. Rather, they are a consequence of inflation. And I want to tell you more about what this means to you, and explain how this builds your wealth in a new way. But first, I mean, my gosh, have you been as flabbergasted about inflation as I am, just at the consumer shelf and aisle level in a store, and I'm a guy that likes to spend money, yet I've got to say sticker shock. It still gives me pause when I'm in a store, even on the cheapest of items, I recently went inside a gas station convenience store after I filled up a regular size York Peppermint Patty, 1.4 ounces cost $3.19 this consequence of inflation has left me slack jawed, but already was a Slack jaw however, has it left you slack jawed? All right, let me tell you about how the wildly overpriced York Peppermint Patty makes real estate investors rich in their sleep. Did you know that the classic economist, Milton Friedman, discussed the concept of get rich. Education's inflation, Triple Crown, essentially. Now we didn't call it that. In fact, he discussed it before GRE existed in 2014 let's listen into this. Friedman won a Nobel Prize in 1976 I'm going to guess that this is him speaking in about 1980 essentially, he. Discuss the first two crowns, which are also the ones that homeowners with a mortgage benefit from which are asset price, inflation and debt debasement. This is about two minutes in length.   Speaker 3  10:11   If I ask people, are you in favor of inflation or not? Everybody is against inflation. But when I explore a little bit further, if I say to people, tell me, have you gained from inflation? Oh, no, you say I haven't gained. And yet, the fact is that a great many people have gained from inflation. There are many, many people who have benefited. Of course, the major gainer from inflation is the federal treasury, as I've already said, but almost everybody who has bought a home in the past 30 years has gained from inflation. He was able to borrow on a mortgage, which inflation has paid off, along with paying off the government debt, so that almost all homeowners in this country are beneficiaries from inflation. Indeed, one of the things that makes inflation such a bad social disease is precisely that it tends to be divisive, because some people do very well during an inflation period, and some people do very badly. And as a result, the population gets split into people who are seeming in great prosperity and people who are in great distress. When most people say they want to stop inflation, what they mean is that they want the prices of the things they buy to go down and the prices of the things they sell to go up. But since what one man sells is what another man buys, that's a neat trick, if you can do it. And as a result, people aren't really serious when they say they want to stop inflation, certainly not in the early stages, not before they fully understand, not before it's gotten to the point where it is really creating serious social problems. Everybody wants to stop inflation at somebody else's expense.   Keith Weinhold  12:11   That was classical macro economist Milton Friedman discussing the rarely talked about benefits of inflation. He also served as an advisor to President Reagan and to British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher Friedman extolled the virtues of free markets and minimal government intervention. Well, yeah, he discussed the first two crowns of get rich, education's inflation, triple crown. So let me discuss the third one, because you benefit from this when you rent out property. And what's interesting about what I'm going to tell you is that this example is going to make it more apparent than it ever has to you, that rent inflation makes landlords rich in their sleep. In fact, the positive effect on you is even greater than I thought I double checked these numbers I'm about to share with you before I came on the air, because I didn't expect this high of a degree of cash flow enhancement. And also, I was talking about what I'm going to show you on YouTube earlier, and it generated a negative, biting comment from a viewer. I'll tell you about that, but yeah, I showed this to a guy that's been investing in real estate for 36 years, and he didn't even understand this. Here it is with general monetary inflation. Rent inflation is a consequence. So let's keep this simple. Say that you charge rent of $2,000 and that could very well be a realistic rent amount for a single family rental property that our GRE investment coaches help you find today, although the average is probably a little less than that. So in any case, $2,000 rent. When you subtract out your fixed rate mortgage payment of $1,000 and your operating expenses of $800 This leaves you with $200 of monthly cash flow. We'll say that's your scenario today. Next rents rise 3% This means you're getting $2,060 now. Doesn't sound so exciting, yet your mortgage payment stays locked in at $1,000 inflation can't touch it. That's the key to this. Your operating expenses also rise 3% up to $824 This leaves you with cash flow of 236 okay. So what happened there is your cash flow went from 200 up to 236 that's not a 3% gain, inflation gain 3% this is an 18% increase in your income. 200 up to 236, an 18% cash flow spike off just a tiny rent adjustment will extrapolate that effect. Right across your portfolio. I mean, this is like your annual income going from 100k up to 118k and then compounding like that every single year. That is power, because inflation couldn't touch your fixed mortgage payment. And this is something I've explained before. It's the third crown of get rich education's inflation Triple Crown called Cash Flow enhancement. But it's a better example than I've ever had for it, and it's a germane time to talk about it with inflation on the rise again. Now here's an angle. Does what I just explained feel wrong in any way. The thing is, you aren't fleecing your tenant. It's just an adjustment to inflation, a little 3% bump to them, a big 18% difference to you. You didn't get rich off your tenant. You got rich because, again, you're leveraging the bank's money, but you're doing it in a way that most people don't see or think about and of course, mortgage free owners lose this entire benefit. It is just another way that real estate investors get rich in their sleep. Yet few ever understand how. But like I said, I was talking about this on YouTube just a little bit ago, and a commenter simply wrote, this makes you a bad person.   Keith Weinhold  16:27   Now, the viewer of GRE YouTube channel, sometimes it's you, but you know, sometimes it's someone that doesn't listen to this audio show here, where we do more learning, the casual or occasional YouTube viewer. They just probably don't understand all of what you do. But yes, like me, you have probably run into people out there that think that landlords are bad because they charge tenants rent and they adjust the rent as their expenses rise. And some of these people even say something like, I believe housing is a human right. I seem to hear that more and more, okay, that's one thing, but they imply that the taxpayer should pay for their housing. I mean, does that even work over time? You can see how often government provided housing fails and it ends up being exorbitantly expensive when the free market prevails. Instead, you know, I think that this sentiment has gotten a little worse because of the K shaped economy, more people having to sleep in their cars makes those people resentful. America, you know, we're in better shape when we have a strong middle class. What can really help you a lot is if you haven't yet. Finally, watch the three part video series, the inflation triple crown. The video really helps reinforce your learning well, because it's helpful to show numbers on screen, like you can in a video. You can watch that directly by going to get rich education. COMM, slash inflation, Triple Crown, or shorter. You can just go to the abbreviated get richeducation.com/itc, it takes you to the same place. It really shows you how to optimize your income increases and do it the right way. I mean, if someone thinks you're a bad person for raising the rent 3% commensurate with 3% inflation, well, you know what? Then if that person is an employee, should they also feel bad for getting a 3% pay raise at work? Well then they should, right, because they're charging their employer 3% more for their services as an employee. Well, of course, that's okay. So that sentiment doesn't make one bit of sense, all right. Well, let's temper the 3% rent inflation that I used in our example here. There's both bad news and good news around this, because today, rent increases are below average nationally. In fact, Zillow has forecast only a 1.1% rent increase in single family rentals this year. And then the good news is that the average rent increase since 2020 is 6% and we only used 3% in our example. The bottom line here is that few real estate investors ever have the epiphany that cashflow enhancement is yet another significant way that inflation makes them wealthy, and it's just another reason why carefully selected simple buy and hold. Residential real estate makes people wealthy. Just buy and hold you don't have to dig in and do a bunch of aggressive value add or get into a niche like self storage or short term rentals or assisted living homes that you sure can do those things. And there's nothing wrong with niching down. You just don't have to, and sometimes we even discuss those nichey vehicles here on the show. In fact, we've done four episodes on assisted living homes, but it's hard to beat the relative passivity and the durability of simple buy and hold residential not the latest hot thing, not speculation, but just what's proven. But you have to understand these forces and then act on them. I mean, I gave an example there of $200 in cash flow, and since that's only the most visible component of the five ways real estate pays. When you add it all up, you might be getting $1,500 of monthly benefit on a single family rental property that only costs 300k 1500 a month on a 300k property that you might have only put 20% down on. And for that 1500 a month, it might only take one hour per month of your asset managing of your property to get that $1,500 of benefits. So that is $1,500 an hour. That's great, but it's only one hour a month, and that's exactly what makes you want to scale with buy and hold property as soon as you get into a lot of real estate niches, which, again, it can be worthwhile, whether that's self storage or assisted living homes or something like that. Well, now it's more like an active business that you have to run, and you're probably going to spend substantially more hours there. But yes, a guy that's been investing in real estate for 36 years. Did not understand cash flow enhancement from Rent inflation until I showed this to him and watch it all. He watched the three part video series, which, again, you can watch for free at get rich education.com/inflation. Triple Crown or shortened simply, get rich education.com/itc. Open it up now and watch it later, because I'm back with more next. I'm Keith Weinhold on episode 603 of get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  22:13   Flock homes helps you retire from real estate and landlording, whether it's one problem property or your whole portfolio through a 721 exchange, deferring your capital gains tax and depreciation recapture. It's a strategy long used by the ultra wealthy. Now Mom and Pop landlords can 721 the residential real estate request your initial valuation, see if your properties qualify@flockhomes.com slash GRE that's F, l, O, C, K, homes.com/g R, E,    Keith Weinhold  22:49   the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequel and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally, while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com   Tarek El Moussa  23:23   What's up? Everyone? This is hgtvs Tarek El Moussa. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your Daydream.    Keith Weinhold  23:30   Welcome back to get rich Education. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, I'm here in Las Vegas today and staying at the Bellagio with a terrific fountain view room. Yes, the paradox of having a giant water show every 30 minutes in the middle of the Mojave Desert, as it is today, just up the street at the Venetian the big Bitcoin 2026, conference kicks off. I might attend some of the sessions, and I might not. While I'm here in Vegas, I'm more focused on spending time with my brother's family. I know I've mentioned to you before that they live in nearby Henderson, Nevada, and I come here pretty often. You could call me a real estate investor. That's crypto curious. I own a little Bitcoin because I think it has some compelling value propositions as well as a number of problems. I think, like a lot of people, I have more questions about Bitcoin than I do answers, and each time I get a new answer, it just prompts three new questions. Now I plan to shop at Trader Joe's shortly. I'm kind of a weirdo here in Vegas, in the sense that I don't gamble, and rather than eating every one of my meals out, I like to be a little healthy shop at a grocery store and bring good food back to the fridge in my room. Well, how? Do certain grocery store chains impact local real estate prices. And you might have heard about this before, but there's a good new study about it that just appeared in the USA Today. And I kind of like the USA Today, because you can easily find a USA Today article where a columnist wrote a story about me as well. But what happened is an analyst matched more than 32,000 store openings to property prices over 50 years. And one conclusion found that homes in the same zip code as a trader joe's saw their values rise about 6% faster than the national average over three years. Another study found that over five years, home prices near Trader Joe's rose by 49% compared with 45% for homes near Whole Foods and 58% near Aldi. I wouldn't have expected that Aldi is a low cost bargain grocery store. Now there are a couple twists here. First, a higher end grocery store, like Whole Foods, that might very well correlate with a good, more affluent neighborhood, sure, but it also might reflect the fact that home values are high, and that usually is not profitable for long term rentals. And the other takeaway is that grocery stores don't actually cause price appreciation. Instead, they reflect it. These grocery chains, they really invest heavily in site selection, so their presence signals that an area was already trending upward, even before a Trader Joe's arrives in an area, the median household income in a neighborhood hovers around $82,000 and that was the highest in the chains that were studied with a typical home value of 425k and the flip side is also pretty noteworthy, the study found that Walmarts tend to be built in neighborhoods with an average household income of only $49,000 and home values of under 200k plus the home price appreciation Proximus to a Walmart, it ends up trailing the national average by 4% over three years. So really, can we say then that the K shaped economy runs through the grocery aisle? I want to get back to discussing your wealth shortly, but first, let's have a checkup on the economy that you're invested inside every day. Over the past year, the US economy has continued to do well, which has surprised some people, some saying that the economy seems to defy gravity. I mean, look at this point. It has withstood chaotic tariff changes, labor supply shocks, swings to the stock market and then a kinetic war on top of that. And how is it pulling this off? Probably starting with AI investment, including all the data center building you see taking place technology innovation and a consumer that you know, it's funny all these consumer surveys where the consumer feels negative, probably because they keep seeing higher prices, but yet, even though they feel negative, oh, they just keep spending more anyway, the unemployment rate is still really low. The AI build out is significant, and that drives jobs and rents and incomes realize, though, this is a new infrastructure build out. This is substantial, just like railroads in the internet were, and companies racing not to fall behind in the AI boom, that's exactly what fuels the economy and productivity and therefore supports real estate. It's similar in spirit, to the.com boom, really, but this time, there's real revenue, and it ALL Fuels wage growth, which is an antecedent to rent growth. And by the way, have you ever noticed how economists and corporations, they're so addicted to growth in the notion of growth, that if something goes down in value, they call it negative growth. What is negative growth? That's always been a funny phrase to me. Don't you mean a decline? Negative growth? That's kind of like calling growth a positive decline. That's nonsense. Some people are allergic to saying that something is a dip or decline, so instead, they say that it's negative growth. That's sort of like how companies they don't want to say that they're undergoing a round of layoffs instead of layoffs. Oh, they say that we are right sizing. She should just tell it like it is. Now, when it comes to building your wealth, this. Say that you're more of a beginning real estate investor, say that your income from your job is 100k and you might wonder, if I add, say, five properties each with $200 a monthly cash flow, that equals $1,000 a month. That's an extra 12k per year. You know, that really isn't that much of a lifestyle difference. You know, even though there are four other ways real estate pays, let's just talk about this. That's only 12k per year, on top of 100k You know, I contend that that really does make quite a difference. Okay, if your real estate cash flow gets up to 1k a month, and you might only spend four hours a month managing that. It matters more than you think, because of your 100k of job income. All right, after all, your expenses are taken care of, like you pay for your housing, your transportation, your Trader Joe's, groceries, all of that stuff that you spend on. Well, what's left over your discretionary income? That might only be $2,000 per month. So if you add 1000 to that, that is a 50% increase in your discretionary income. What really matters? That's why real estate cash flow is actually a bigger deal than a lot of people think. You just bought back your time. This can help you replace a second job. This can let you cut back hours or even fund a sabbatical buffer for beginners. That's why even a kind of paltry sounding $1,000 a month in cash flow from, say, five rental doors that can actually be a life changer. When you get right down to it, it really starts to change your control over your time, and an extra $1,000 a month can, of course, help fuel your next investment, if you so choose. But that's not all. A psychological shift begins to happen inside you. You're no longer dependent on one income source. This is really the underrated one, because before $1,000 of real estate cash flow, a job loss that could mean stress and urgency and bad decisions, but afterward, now you have margin. Now you're making better decisions in life. You negotiate better you think longer term. That shift alone improves your entire life. And what else can just 1000 a month do for you an extra 1000, it can give you lifestyle upgrades without guilt. Let's say you do spend some of it that can fund travel without touching savings, that can give you better housing or a better location, that can give you experiences instead of a life of what feels like just bills. And here's the key, it does not cannibalize your future. Just $1,000 a month gives you options, like we say around here, don't live below your means. Grow your means. I mean, if you're a beginner, this is something that you could have in less than a year. That extra 1k that comes whether you work that day or not. And for a more advanced investor, you can imagine what multiples greater than 1k per month do. So can you see how everything compounds here? Capital compounds labor doesn't earlier, I discussed how even a 3% rent bump can increase your cash flow 18% all right, and then your cash flow has a greater impact than you thought, because it is discretionary income where a small change can make a world of difference in your life. And when you layer all these things together, it almost makes you wonder why more people aren't real estate investors. Well, most people just have not had it explained to them this way before, and then other people give up after starting in real estate because they don't buy the right property in the right market.    Keith Weinhold  34:16   Here at GRE we really help you avoid those mistakes. And in fact, let me give you an example of what I mean. This can really help. Redfin reports that national home prices have jumped up again, rising 2.1% annually, but yet, a place like Florida, they still have year over year housing price declines, not negative growth declines, and that's due to a temporary overbuild, like I've talked about before. But Cape Coral, Florida homes that area has been hit harder than most with more building than most places, they're actually down in price 3.8% it looks like an opportunity, and people say they want an opportunity. What they really want is certainty, and once certainty arrives, the opportunity is gone. Winners often embrace the heterodox. They're willing to lean into the sort of uncomfortable, mildly contrarian, awkward moment right when others are hesitating, some Florida brand new property builders. They're getting creative, and the translation to creative is that they are motivated. They're offering to throw in the kitchen sink and the backsplash. Here's one example, a duplex in Cape Coral, Florida. The listing price is 550k it's in an A class neighborhood. The rent is 3890 both sides of the duplex are already leased, six beds, four baths. It's 2474 square feet. The down payment you can expect to make is 25% the projected cash flow is up to $1,096 per month. Yeah, you've potentially got your surprisingly life changing 1k in cash flow in one fell swoop here and here's where it gets interesting, a 3.75% mortgage rate, buy down and one year of free property management. They're either giving you that or take $25,000 cash instead and structure your own advantage. All right, that's what this certain builder is offering. Now, a reputable builder, in fact, they've been a guest on the show here before. You can push the envelope a little further than that. I encourage you to make an offer below the list price on these property types. Yes, offer lower than the 550k how much lower should you go? That's where a free chat with our investment coach gives you an inside edge, because, see, they know what other offer amounts were accepted previously by these sellers, so they know where the real flexibility is, and they've got all kinds of what I'll call specific deal knowledge like this that you're just not going to find anywhere else. Our coaches can also help you with other inventory, if it better meets your personal objectives than something like a Florida new build duplex. Usually, those places are in the Midwest and South, from Ohio out to Missouri and Georgia out to Texas. In full disclosure, what I just described is a better deal than any Florida properties that I personally own myself. Now it is clearly a buyer's market in Florida. We're in that fleeting window where long term demand is strong, short term supply is high, and builders are motivated. So take the free consult, or maybe no properties are right for you. Once our coach learns more, if you're interested, we can help you structure a smart offer. Talk to us. We can help you build an entire portfolio, if you so choose, and find the right markets and properties with a management solution, we've got the team and the contacts, you can make your process easier than guessing and figuring it out on your own. Often like to leave you with something actionable at the end of the show. I encourage you, if you think it's right for you, book time with a friendly GRE investment coach@greinvestmentcoach.com you can find an open slot on their calendar and book it again@greinvestmentcoach.com Until next week, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 4  38:54   Nothing on this show should be considered specific personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. 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Keith explains how to increase real estate cash flow by appealing and reducing property taxes.  Then welcomes high‑energy real estate investor and educator Thach Nguyen.  Thach shares his refugee‑to‑multimillionaire story, breaks down his roadmap to retiring with rentals, and explains how ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units) are transforming both investor returns and affordable housing—especially in Seattle. Resources: Follow @ThachNguyen on Instagram and all major social platforms. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, talking about how to increase your cash flow by obtaining a successful appeal and reduction in your property taxes. Then real estate personality Thatch Nguyen and I discuss mindset and some creative real estate techniques today on get rich education,   Keith Weinhold  0:23   the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequel and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com   Speaker 1  0:57   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  1:13   Welcome to GRE from Mount Holly New Jersey to Hollywood, California and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold. This is get rich education, and I'm still not wearing Dockers, and I am in Hollywood, California today. More on that later. Among all the major investment classes when it's bought right real estate is the second safest investment class to bonds. Bonds are the safest among them all. Real estate has the highest returns, so it's the second safest and has the highest returns. And that's why it's our focus on this show. But if you want to be in real estate for two years or less, well, then it's likely best to invest elsewhere, at least with long term rentals, because you need time to defray your transaction cost. And for real estate pays five ways to start compounding. Coming up shortly, it's pretty popular real estate personality Thatch Nguyen. He will be here, and I did not know Thatch until recently, when we were introduced by our mutual friend Scott Saunders. And Scott, who I had on the show here a few years ago, is one of the nicest guys you'll ever meet in real estate. Well, besides those high return, low risk real estate attributes. Of course, when you own property directly, you also get a big measure of control if you want it. Now, control comes really with that option A lot of times to get involved and make your real estate investing less passive, just an option, because successful real estate can be as simple as buy and hold, but today we're discussing strategies. If you want to get a little hands on, if you so choose, you can attempt a successful appeal of the amount of property tax that you're paying. And of course, every dollar that you lower your property tax is $1 where you increase your income. And this feels like a germane conversation, since tax day in the USA was just last week. Ah, yes, property tax, hmm, it's like a version of the government charges you rent on your own property in perpetuity. That's what it is. And before I get into how to potentially get your property tax lowered, property taxes are under pressure. Some states are still making their serious push to completely eliminate the property tax, namely in Florida, Texas and Indiana. Those are three of the front running states, probably the big three. And I won't get into all of that again, because I devoted an episode segment to that topic a few months back. Others are considering elimination too, Georgia, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Dakota, but it's just more talk than anything in those six states. Now, if a state undertook property tax abolition, it would probably only apply to owner occupied property, homeowners or voters, and those property values would soar. But these new comparables, what they could do, in turn, is lift the value of your out of state rental property as well, because you could always sell your investment property to an owner occupant. But in my opinion, no state is going to eliminate the property tax. I mean, sheesh, it's kind of like trying to eliminate gravity. It's just too hard to replace the revenue from elsewhere. Schools, police and fire and infrastructure heavily rely on property tax, so instead, what's realistic is a tax cap, a ceiling on the amount of property tax that you pay, and with an income producing property of course, your tenant essentially pays the property tax for you now, even before buying a property or for one that you already own, the most accurate way you can check the tax amount for your exact address is on the county assessor's website.    Keith Weinhold  5:38   The next best places are listing websites like Zillow and Redfin. This is all public information. The way to find a county assessor's website for your property is with a simple four word search. What you should google is the county name, and then the words assessor property search, those are the only four words that you need. And then what if you discover that you're paying more than you are for nearby, similar properties? Oh, well, there we go. That's a sign that you're over paying. You can usually file an appeal form at the same website. And before we talk about how to do it, realize that only about 5% of property owners ever file an appeal, and in a bit, I'll tell you what your percent chance for success is at lowering your property tax, your chances of it being lowered. So if you believe that you have a case for lower property taxes, first, it helps to know what you're arguing. And this is important, it's something that can trip you up. You're actually not arguing that taxes are too high. You're arguing my property is overvalued compared to the market. That's it. That's your basis of contention. Yeah, if you walk in talking about things like fairness or inflation or government spending, then you've already lost the county assessor's office isn't the place for your best rant on how fiat currency is garbage or something like that. Now you might not even have to physically walk in anywhere today. Sometimes you can get your appeal rewarded informally. Other times you go before what's called a Board of Equalization in most places and in person, hearings have become less common. Video calls have become quite a bit more common since the pandemic, but you want to review your property details with them. You want to be sure to point out if there's incorrect square footage or the wrong lot size, or missing depreciation, or condition issues or upgrades that are overstated and even small errors can swing your value by 10s of 1000s of dollars and then, and it's whether this is with rental property or with your own home build your comparables Like an investor, not a homeowner, because this is really where you win or lose. You need three to five strong comparable sales in the same neighborhood, or really close ones that sold recently, ideally within the last six months, and they should be of a similar size and age and condition. And then make adjustments. Inferior comps support a lower value. And we don't just want to cherry pick garbage comps. We want to keep it credible, and then for your best chance of getting your property tax lowered, find your angle, and really this is your leverage point. Most winning appeals hinge on one clear argument, either a condition gap, meaning that your property is worse than the comps are, or it's an argument like market timing, and this is if values have softened since the assessment date, or the income approach for rentals. Therefore it's the value based on noi, not emotion. You could take that track or other external issues like noise or location drawbacks or obsolescence, so only pick one of those four primary arguments here, condition, gap, market timing, the income approach or external issues and document everything. This is really where you separate yourself. You want to show photos and have them dated and be clear and honest. Nothing dramatic there repair estimates or contractor bids, inspection reports, rent rolls or income statements. So you're not telling a story. You're presenting evidence this way, and be sure to package it cleanly. This matters more than you think. Assessors see sloppy appeals all day. So you're going to stand out by being organized and concise, like a one to two page summary and some exhibits, and keeping it professional meaning, no emotional language, so you're making it clean and easy for them to agree with you, and this is the place to be. Calm and not combative. It isn't a debate club. It's the right form to be respectful, stick to facts, not interrupt and not get defensive, because the person across from you, they actually did not set your rate, they didn't set your tax rate, they're evaluating your evidence, and then it's helpful for you to know the likely outcome. You don't need a gigantic win, even a five to 10% reduction, that can mean 1000s saved over your life of owning the property. You want to remember that some jurisdictions are more flexible than others, and if you're denied informally, like just doing it online, then you can often escalate your property a tax appeal to a board review. And this is a long game, not every swing is going to end up in a base hit. Investors have an advantage. If you own rentals, you've really got a stronger argument, because you can use that income based verification like cap rate and noi, you can show actual rent versus market rent, and you can highlight your expenses, and assessors often default to sales comps. So this is how you can shift the frame here. The blunt truth is that when people lose appeals, it's usually because they show up unprepared, or they argue emotionally, or they just don't understand valuation. And so this is one of those rare moments where being methodical is actually better than being smart. 40 to 60% of property tax appeals succeed nationwide, and with professional level prep, you can make that 70 to 80% for a success rate, and the typical result if you win is a 10 to 15% reduction in assessed value. So that can be worth doing. And you know, just like buying your first out of state rental property seems to be the hardest. Making your first property tax appeal seems to be the hardest as well. And there you go a way to reduce your expenses and increase your cash flow. Yes, I am in LA today, West Hollywood, California. Though I do expect to produce some real estate media here. That's not the typical Hollywood type filmmaking that I'm doing, I just happen to be staying in Hollywood, although I do plan to run up to the Hollywood sign and do some fun stuff out at Venice Beach. Later next week, I will be in Las Vegas, and will probably even bring you the show from the Bellagio with a view of the Bellagio fountain. As for this week, let's meet our guest.   Keith Weinhold  12:49   This week's guest has an amazingly powerful story. Today. He's quite well known in real estate circles for his high energy in person events, but he came to the United States as a Vietnamese refugee, experienced homelessness early in life, and went on to build a real estate portfolio valued at over $100 million I'm not making light of the fact that he's homeless. Once I started talking about this, he kind of, you know, beat his chest a little bit. He's a high energy, playful guy here, but he's completed more than 1000 real estate projects and transactions through his mentorship program, he's helped 1000s of people build long term Real Estate Wealth with his platform, it's called springboard to wealth, and along the way, he's built a strong audience, with 1.4 million followers on Instagram. Hey, welcome to the show Thatch Nguyen.   Thach Nguyen  13:41   I'm honored to be here, my man, I'm honored   Keith Weinhold  13:43   to hear, Oh, it's so good to do it Thatch. And before we're done, we'll discuss some actionable tactics. But first, that is just an amazing story to have started from homelessness. I guess I'm most interested to know what you would identify as kind of that turning point from destitution to success. Talk to us about that.   Thach Nguyen  14:03   You know, coming from Vietnam, we was a refugee. We left out of the last plane. My dad was a translator for the US Army. Back in the days, military pulled out of South Vietnam during the war, they asked my dad, would you want to leave with us? And so we decided to leave. But of course, my dad, the owner, who actually spoke some bit of English. None of us didn't speak no English. We only had $100 one suitcase for eight of us, gosh, and I was five years old. But if my dad didn't leave, he would have been captured, and then he would have been killed. Because you work for the US government, because it's still, you know, is a communist country, right? And so we left, we came over here, we landed in San Diego, lived in the shelter out there, and then we moved up to Washington State, Seattle, and lived in a shelter there for a few months. And then finally, we lived in a sponsorship house, right, with a guy named Charles Zettler. I graduated from high school in. 88 I went off to fix aviation airplane my two older brother, because they in the aviation business. And then I got a job working for Alaska. But I didn't want to leave to Denver to go work out there, so I decided to stay back. And I went to work at, you know, like, odd job, like at a body shop. I was the dairy manager at a grocery store, like, called Ralph. Was called Safeway, and I was parking car in Chinatown. And I think the pivoting point was, I'm sitting there, and one of my friends says, you know, you would do very well in real estate, yeah, because you have a good energy, you have a good mouthpiece, I think you do well, see, but I didn't hear all that. I heard you get 7% commission checks. Oh, Sign me up. You know what? I think, but I didn't realize quickly, selling real estate, you don't make that kind of money unless you do a lot of volume. I got to real estate. I started doing well in real estate as a agent. But the tipping point, I think, for me, was a mentor named Saul. And Saul said to me, Keith, I know you appreciate this. He said, You can be rich selling real estate for the rest of your life. Yeah, you'll never be wealthy unless you own the real estate, right? And that was the light bulb that came off of me that I need to take the money I make from selling real estate to then Park the money in long term rental. But I didn't quit my real estate. I just bought real estate, rented it, let it ride. And I just kept selling real estate for years. And at the moment I made, the more property I bought. The moment I make, the more property I bought. And then from there, I just start to learn new construction. I start to learn fix and flip. I start to learn about the BRRRR strategy. And then today, you know, we're going to talk more about this. But today, the hot thing is adu and accessory dwelling unit, and that's what I do a lot today is a lot of new construction, a lot of ADUs.   Keith Weinhold  16:49   Oh, that's great to hear about your come up. Fetch, yeah, I find it remarkable, too, the amount of people that are in the real estate industry, and they're doing something adjacent to being an investor, which I think is the best place to be. For example, they're a property manager, or they're a mortgage loan officer or the real estate agent, but yet they don't own rental real estate, right? They're so close. How could you not be doing this?   Thach Nguyen  17:13   And I say today, because I understand this. Now, if you don't take the active income you make from whatever you do, say, as a real estate agent, then you always trading your time for money for the rest of your life, and you're always on that treadmill and that grind, but you can't get off, because the moment you get off, Keith, you got no income, and you got no passive income either. So you're stuck on this wheel like a hamster that you got to keep running until you old and die.   Keith Weinhold  17:40   Well, you know, it's unavoidable to talk about you've got the word mindset on big letters on a hooded sweatshirt that you're wearing right now, so, you know, I think you're touching on it somewhat. But yeah, talk to us more about this mindset and how to break through the barriers. Because most people's connotation with income is merely that they have got to trade their time for dollars.   Thach Nguyen  18:01   Of course, you know, mindset is 80% of the result that we want, that we get. Because someone could have a mindset to go, I'm going to be the top real estate agent, and that mindset would drive them to be the top agent for many, many year. But they always trade their time for money so they never get wealthy. I have that mindset because I was selling 100 homes a year in my early 20s. But when Saul said to me, you know one day that when you get into your 40s and your 50s, do you want to keep trading time for money, or do you want to trade your money for time? And see, that's a mindset shift. And of course, who want to be in their 50 Keith with a gun in their head, always trading time for money. And so when I heard that, it shifted the mindset to, you know what, I'm going to make money selling real estate because I need that money, then I'm going to take that money and park it into a rental. So when I get into my 40s and my 50s, I have the option to work or not work, and that was a mindset shift. So owning rental property is a mindset more than a strategy.   Keith Weinhold  19:08   I and I think a lot of us, came up with the mindset that, oh, you get wealthy by obtaining a high salary, and then no later, you learn you don't get wealthy through high salaries, especially if wealth equals freedom, you get wealthy through owning assets. So Thatch after you know your homelessness, and you're new to the United States, and you've come up like you described, and you realize that real estate is the way in doing it with a relative amount of passivity, rather than actively being in it as a realtor, you sort of get this roadmap for retiring with rental properties, even from starting at zero like you did. So tell us more about that roadmap to retire with rental properties.   Thach Nguyen  19:47   You know, when I started, I had this roadmap where you got to learn what you need to learn about real estate investing, what why do you want to own it? What's the benefit? What would it do for you? At the end of the day, and a lot of that is goals and vision and mindset. For me when I got clear Keith on the knowledge, because I start off with knowledge. And of course, I want to own real estate. But here's the thing I always want to say to people, nobody want to own real estate. Just to own real estate, right? They want to own real estate. So what it would actually do for you. And so for me, I think when I was younger, I was counting the doors, but now I got older and wiser, I count the hours I get to have back. So the mindset for me is that when I got clear what I wanted to do was I wanted, you know, the option of working at work, that I also wanted to retire my mom, my dad, right? And then I also wanted to actually help my kids learn how to do this one day, so that they have the same mindset. So those are the reason I in want to invest in real estate. Of course, have an asset, have a net worth, come along with a secondary so once I understand the knowledge of why I'm doing it, I got this clear vision. I got this horizon. Now I'm inspired to actually go out there and take action. Now the action is, what do I want to buy for me? I started with single family. I started with buying ugly houses and rehabbing and keeping it, and then worked my way into multifamily and apartment building, all doing value add today. So those are my action, right? So I'm inspired. I take the action, I make money doing what I'm doing. But then I asked myself, How many property do I need? But it's not even how many property I need. How much passive income do I need to get out of the rat race? I have the option of working at work. For me, when I was like, 21 years old, I said to myself, I have $30,000 a month in passive income, and I'm debt free. I mean, who couldn't live off 360,000 of you debt free, right? Yeah. So I had to go to go after so many doors based on what the rent is, to accumulate it and then to pay them down so I can be out of the rat race as soon as possible. And once I did that, then I started playing the game accumulation again. So today I have a whole set of properties paid off. That's why I have over 100,000 a month in passive income. But I also got a whole bunch of property paid off yet, which I don't care, because this ought to get paid up by itself anyway. But now I'm playing this game where I'm gonna accumulate more property or trade up at the same time pay down other property I want to pay off, so that when I get into my 60, my 70, a lot of it paid off, and I still got other property. I don't know. I don't mind accumulating, because I love to play the game of real estate. So this is the road map that I you know, that my mentor saw. He's a very wealthy Jewish man that taught me. And today I'm just taking that lived it my own life now I'm just sharing it back to other people   Keith Weinhold  22:42   that you said so many interesting things there. I think the most is how you talked about your metric is more outcome based. I think we all think through how many doors we have, and you know, even how much passive income that translates into, but you talked about how many hours you're able to win back way that you can quantify that.   Thach Nguyen  23:05   If I ask someone, I go, Hey, how much does it cost you to live personally every month? And most American will probably say, 10,15, 20,000, Max. And I said to them, what have you had that much in passive income? How would you feel? And 99.9% of it were like, my god, that will be amazing. But the problem we all go to the seminar, we see people on stage. They got 100 doors, 200 door. They got 1000 doors. And nobody needs that much to get out of the rat race, right? So I say the most American is, look how much it costs you to live. Look at the lifestyle you live. You have that in passive income, and if you choose to keep working in active income, it's just a cherry on top of the cake.   Keith Weinhold  23:47   Yeah, there are so many ways to do it. We talk here about being financially free rather than debt free, and sort of letting leverage and inflation in tenants work to our benefit. But you've got this separate way of doing it. You're listening to get rich education. We're talking with real estate, personality, Thatch Nguyen, more when we come back, including some actionable tactics. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold,    Keith Weinhold  24:09   let me throw out a simple idea, sometimes doing nothing with your money is actually a decision. Leaving it parked might feel safe, but over time, purchasing power changes. So the conversation isn't about chasing returns, it's about intentionally placing money somewhere. Freedom, family investments works in real estate people use every day. Housing, senior communities, essential properties, things tied to living and not trends. Their freedom notes offering is built for accredited investors looking for structured income backed by real assets, not speculation. 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Now Mom and Pop landlords can 721 the residential real estate request your initial valuation, see if your properties qualify@flockhomes.com slash GRE, that's F, l, O, C, K, homes.com/gre,   Caeli Ridge  26:09   this is Ridge lending group's president, Shaylee ridge. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold, and remember, don't quit your Daydream. You Keith, welcome   Keith Weinhold  26:27   back to get rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold we're talking with Thatch win real estate personality, and you know Thatch, on the way up, you've really employed a lot of methods. You're knowledgeable about House hacking and burrs and small multifamily in ADUs. ADUs is something that we haven't talked about here very much. And for those that don't know what that is, we're talking about an accessory dwelling unit, right? Typically, a secondary housing unit on the same lot as a primary residence. You can sort of think of it like a backyard cottage in a lot of cases. So tell us Thatch, what got you into ADUs,   Thach Nguyen  27:03   well, Seattle, about five years ago, was one of the first city and state to adapt this Adu, because the biggest problem we have across America is affordable housing, yeah, and a shortage of housing, let alone a shortage of affordable housing. So Seattle came up with, Hey, we will let you. Got built an accessory dwelling unit in the backyard, maximum 800 square feet, but you have to live in the front house to build the back house. Okay? People got excited. They built it so they can rent it in the back. They live in the front house. But then that didn't really solve as much affordable housing for you to buy. It helped with rental. And then about a year, you and a half later, they came over stage shoe to go, you know what? We're gonna allow up to 1000 square feet of adu. But you don't have to live in the front to build the back. Now, people got excited. Investors go, Oh my God, let me go buy a property. Let me go build something. Rent both of these out, right? And then if they want, they could sell the whole entire piece, you know, with somebody, and that was great, but it still wasn't enough. And then about a year you'd have, later, they came up with stage three. They go, You know what? We want to help create more housing for you to buy. So now what we're going to deal with, we're going to actually give people separate APN tax number for the house in the front and the adu in the back, so you can sell off any one of the and by doing that, they value the house as a single family, and they value the back as a single family, so they can comp it like a house, not as a duplex. And that blew the lid off. I mean, in Seattle, that was a game changer. I mean, like builders started coming in, they're buying property. They they building and they selling these. They're making a killer on it. And then show you how much crazy it is. Okay in Seattle, if you buy the house in the front, you gotta get the land the back freak, because it came with the house. We could build 1000 square foot all in it cost us about $400,000 but with a separate parcel number, they comp it as a regular house. So regular houses right about 1000 square feet, they sell for about $700,000 so you build for four is worth seven, and you can actually design it in four months. Get permit, because they have a special line for adu. And then you can build this. You can actually have it all done in one year. So you instantly create massive equity in one deal. But here's a beautiful part of it. In Seattle's expensive city, it's hard to get the 1% rule. You know the 1% rule with, you know 1% of what you pay for a property, a $200,000 house, you get $2,000 for rent with Seattle, a $700,000 house, you get 4000 but the Adu, it only cost us 400,000 but it's worth 700 but my mortgage is based on 400,000 I can write it for four grand, and I meet the 1% rule Now   Keith Weinhold  29:52   a way to recent rent to value ratio, right?   Thach Nguyen  29:56   So now Adu, they are all. All across America, because two years ago, all the city planners and all the people for other state they came to Seattle for a private, hush, hush meeting to ask Seattle How you guys doing this, and so they can go and copy. So in the last two year, Adu has spread across America like wildfire.   Keith Weinhold  30:19   This is great. Tell us more. And of course, it's going to depend on a lot of factors, but tell us more about that cash on cash return that you're getting after stabilization with an adu.   Thach Nguyen  30:29   Yeah, it's beautiful. So when you have a property that's worth 700 and it only costs you 400 it has so much equity, the bank will finance 100% of the construction cost, so you don't have to come up with no money. Great. So then if you finance 100% which is 400 right, 400,000 the mortgage only three grand, and you ran for four in Seattle with making positive cash flow with zero down payment. So that's infinite return on your money.    Keith Weinhold  30:56   Yes, that's a really beautiful thing to get the infinite return when you don't have any equity left in That's right?   Thach Nguyen  31:03   And the thing is, people can do that across America now, but most city right now on stage two, they don't have the APN. But right now, a lot of city right now are on the verge of going from two to three. Right now, I've been going out there buying home that you could actually Burr, make the house in the front. Work make a cash flow. Have the backyard sitting there, and then you can build it anytime. You can build it now, just for the cash flow. Or you can build it when you get the separate APN. So you can get two separate parso You can sell one, keep one. But bottom line is, if I was anybody out there, I'll be buying property. Now, make it work like you would already be buying, but just make sure you get a backyard so you have access to the back.   Keith Weinhold  31:46   Okay? So in some situations, using the burr strategy on the primary residence with an adu, burrs, buy, renovate, rent, refinance and repeat, beautiful.   Thach Nguyen  31:55   That's what I call the atomic bomb, the burr. Add the adu to the back. Boom. But I'm gonna give your audience something that they can even look forward to. Seattle in November of 2025 this went into stage four. Now in stage four, single family in the front, if the lot's big enough, you can put instead of one, you can put 234, or five property in the back, if the lot's big enough.   Keith Weinhold  32:23   Yeah, this is great. I mean, it solves the problem of affordable housing, and it increases the density in a lot of these metro areas. Yes, right, Thatch, it sounds like Seattle's having a good deal of success with the ADUs. How is that when you extrapolate it out nationally, and are there regulatory bottlenecks out there.   Thach Nguyen  32:40   The only bottleneck right now is most people right now are in state two, where they can't separate it. So if they buy a burr, they can add the house in the back. They just have to be able to comp it where there's a house and another house in the back. So what they do is they look at two different type of comp. They look at, what does it duplex sell for in the area? They could use that as a comp. Or if this is a 2000 square foot home, and you got another 800 square foot, what's a 2800 square foot home is going for? Because they can be added this to the main house, so they can create the ARV. Does that make sense? Yeah. And the only challenge, challenging is that a city that's new, they have to use comp like duplexes and square foot. It to come up with the ARV.   Keith Weinhold  33:23   That's really good. Okay, so Seattle's had these four phases of ADUs, if you will. And then what's next for ADUs?   Thach Nguyen  33:30   I think what's gonna happen after phase four is that all these single family one day will all go to multifamily. It's already in multifamily. You got a single family in the front. You can build three in a back. They're all three single family. But technically it's multi unit, right? It's called multi unit, but it's still on single family zoning, because, you know, the bulk of the real estate where I still have land, or the residential, because most commercial, you and I know, they built out on all the land on the lot, so the biggest portion left is the single family. So this is why I've been doing the adu. And I think in the future, Phase Five could be those single family that whole area might get up zoned to multifamily, more density.   Keith Weinhold  34:11   Yeah, upzoning, that term for allowing more dense housing term really originated because you're building up vertically, although that doesn't have to be the case every time. And yes, I mean, this is really a great way to solve the affordable housing crunch in the United States. I've seen other cities where single family zoning only was allowed now allows for duplexes. That's a common way to upzone as well and fetch you really often talk about creating affordable housing, like we're discussing here, while you're building wealth. Can you speak to us more about that? You kind of get a give back that way?   Thach Nguyen  34:46   Yeah. This is a mindset thing. There's a mindset that says, right? And some people believe it. Some people don't. I love what Zig Ziglar said, Right? Zig. Zig says, If you help enough people get what they want, you eventually get what you want. Yeah. And so. If you go out, then you make enough difference to the world. Take a look at Bill Gates. One day, he probably saying, You know what, I'm going to figure out how to make a computer to actually help your life better, faster, more efficient. And his goal was to do it worldwide. So he solved that problem, and in return, he has massive financial freedom. So for me, real estate isn't just real estate. Real estate what it would do for me as an outcome, real estate also give me an emotional contribution, which is, if I make a difference out there, creating more housing right, to make it more affordable, to make it most of people gonna buy it. What does it do? For me? It will actually fulfill the hierarchy of life, which is contribution. Because once you have money, the only thing that fulfill human being beyond money is life fulfillment.   Keith Weinhold  35:48   That's right. I mean, hey, it's a little brash, but in the business world, really no one cares about you until they know how much you can help them.   Thach Nguyen  35:56   You got it, brother, you got it right. That's why do you think so many wealthy people do thing in nonprofit world, because at some point it was all about them at the beginning. Now it's about basically giving back. So imagine, on your way going to success, you do both, you make a difference and you benefit also. And it's a more fulfilling journey than a journey just push, push, push and grinding and not taking care of you in the process.   Keith Weinhold  36:23   Well, if that's your events, they give you this mentorship platform. And I think you've actually pointed to how mentorship accelerates your own real estate success, even though you're trying to help others first.    Thach Nguyen  36:34   Yeah, you know for me, I always knew that the more you learn, the more you earn. And so what? 1995 I met my first mentor, Saul and then I met my other mentor, Mike ferry. And if I'm there, I met Wayne Dyer, who became one of my great mentor, Tony Robbins, Deepak, Chopra, Abraham Hicks, I mean, all these great people, right, that I got exposed to. And today I still have multiple different mentor from fitness mentor, spiritual mentor, business mentor, you know, financial mentor, and they I have regular meeting with these folks, because I want to constantly, always feel I'm growing mentally, emotionally and financially, physically, and I know that the more I learn, the more I can actually make a difference to other people coming behind me   Keith Weinhold  37:21    even Michael Jordan had his own team of coaches. Yeah, you see, that's why, that's how we all get better with that, you've really helped so many people with your mentorship, your contribution to the industry. Let our audience know how they can learn more about you.   Thach Nguyen  37:36   Yeah, if you gotta go to my Instagram, it's Thatch Nguyen this my name, and you go to YouTube, I drop YouTube every single week. It's my name. Also that's when. And you can find me there. You can find me on Instagram, tik, Tok, Facebook, everywhere. That's where I inspire and empower people all over the world about real estate and mindset.   Keith Weinhold  37:54   If that's before, I ask you if you have any last thoughts as you look him up, it's spelled T, H, A, C, H N, G, u, y, e n, fetch. Let us know if you have any closing thoughts.   Thach Nguyen  38:04   Yeah, this has been on my mind lately a lot. If you want to be successful at anything, you got to get single minded focus. And I remember when I was in Tony Robbins training, we used to do fire walk a lot. And when you are doing fire walk, you have to get single minded focus. And the only thing that you will focus on is perfect health, perfect health, perfect health. As you walk in across five feet, six feet, seven feet, and you have to really stay focused on perfect health, perfect health, perfect health, perfect health. And if you don't, and I've seen what, people lost their concentration and they burn their feet halfway through. But I also see people so powerful where they can walk halfway stop, bend down, pick up a coal and keep walking. Don't burn because they really focus on single minded focus. So I want to say to everybody, make sure you clear on where you want to buy, what you want to buy, and then once you know where you want to buy, what you want to buy, get focused on your main job is to figure out how to find deals every day, because that's your main job. If you can find deal, you solve all of your personal problem.    Keith Weinhold  39:15   I am so with you on the focus of concentration, because diversification is a word that we're fed, and there's something to be said for that. But if you want greatness in anything, you really need to double down and focus. It's sort of like Andrew Carnegie said, put all your eggs in one basket and then watch that basket. Yeah. Well, that's when this has been great. It's been good to have you here on the show.   Thach Nguyen  39:35   I appreciate everybody we talk to y'all soon. Peace out.    Keith Weinhold  39:44   Yeah, good energy from Thatch Nguyen. He's based in Seattle. When you don't live in an investor advantage area, you have to get creative or scrappy, and he's doing it well, using ADUs and a lot of value add if you're merely investing. Investing on the side, well, then you're probably better off with a turnkey type investment, something that's not quite so hands on, but if you're devoted full time to real estate, then you really have some ideas there that you might want to pick up on. He wore a sweatshirt that says mindset on it during our chat. I like that. I mean, real estate investing isn't all about mindset, but that's surely where it begins for the production team here at GRE that's our sound engineer, bedroom Jampa, who has edited every single episode since 2014 QC and show notes, Brenda Almedares, video lead, brendawali strategy, talimagal, video editor, seroza, KC, and producer me, we'll run it back next week for you. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 4  40:50   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. 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What if your buyer could lock in a 2.25% mortgage on a home that's available right now?On this episode of RWorld Talk, Chris Krzemien sits down with Andy Taylor, CEO & Co-Founder of RetroRate and former Head of Product at Redfin and Credit Karma, to break down one of the most underused strategies in real estate: assumable loans.70% of all current listings have a sub-5% mortgage sitting on them and almost nobody is marketing them. Andy explains how RetroRate, now built directly into the BeachesMLS dashboard, automatically detects and surfaces assumable listings for agents, notifies listing agents they have a hidden asset, and even offers a concierge service to get deals across the closing line in as few as 33 days.We cover:➡️ What an assumable loan actually is (and why most lenders will give you the wrong answer)➡️ Why non-veterans can assume VA loans (and so can investors)➡️ The equity gap problem and how to solve it➡️ How to find the RetroRate icon in your BeachesMLS dashboard right now➡️ Why only 25 assumption transactions happened in the Beaches system last year and how that number could hit 1,000If you're a real estate agent in South Florida, this episode could change the way you market every single listing.

Sign up for Audible, using our affiliate link! When you sign up for Audible you will be helping out our podcast, and the “Terry goat fund.” Sign up, and get your first month free. After that it becomes $15 every month. You can unsubscribe at any time. Each month you will get one token for an audible book, and some really great prices and discounts on titles that you want to add to your library. Sponsored by: Retro Radio Podcast. Bringing you family-friendly entertainment through classic, old-time radio. Episodes are posted daily. Keith and his Retrobots share everything in his collection from the days of vintage radio. Adventure, comedy, detective, westerns, and lots in between. If you don't hear your favorite show, just ask Visit the web page today, https://retro-otr.com ## Quick recap This podcast episode of “Three Blind Siblings” focused on various news stories and segments shared by Keith, Terry, and Jill. The hosts discussed recent events including an Oregon waterfall being sold on Redfin, an elephant escape at an Albuquerque zoo, and a baby born mid-flight on a Jamaican Airlines plane. Terry shared his “Top 10 Things You Cannot Order Off Amazon” list, which included items like hugs from Jeff Bezos and instant six-pack abs. The group also discussed communication methods for blind individuals, including the use of braille, digital recorders, and various assistive technologies. The episode concluded with Keith reading an email from listener Molly Parker describing her experience with a tech support scammer who claimed to be from Microsoft. Summary The group discussed recent home security improvements, including new smart locks and a security camera installed at Keith’s house. Jill shared a public safety warning about potential tick-check scams, advising listeners not to let strangers into their homes for this purpose. Keith explained various ways to access and control a new smart lock system, including using a key fob, thumbprint, passcode, app, and potential integration with Amazon devices. He discussed the system’s security features, such as one-time codes for guests and the ability to manage access for family members. Terry began with sharing stories about recent mishaps involving coffee creamer and hot tea. News of the Week Terry shared about a mannequin setup with alcohol that was reported to police as a homeless person, which turned out to be an April Fools prank. Jill then shared about a woman who gave birth on a Jamaican Airlines flight landing at JFK Airport. Keith shared a story about Abaca Falls, an iconic Oregon waterfall that was put up for sale on Redfin but was later purchased by the state of Oregon for $2.1 million, ensuring it remains accessible to the public. Terry then discussed an incident at an Albuquerque zoo where an Asian elephant named Alice escaped her enclosure and walked onto a public walkway, leading to a 30-minute delay in the zoo’s opening. Jill concluded by sharing a story about seven baby foxes that fell into a window well in Virginia, which were rescued by the Humane Society with their mother watching nearby. Keith shared some slang words of the week, which included terms like “girl dinner” and “choogy.” Terry shared an animal story about a Brazilian rainbow boa snake named Ronaldo that reproduced asexually and gave birth to 12 babies. Jill's Trivia Quiz Jill hosted a Brady Bunch trivia quiz, where participants answered questions about characters, storylines, and details from the classic TV show. Terry's Top 10 List Terry presented a top 10 list of things that cannot be ordered from Amazon, including items like hugs from Jeff Bezos, Wi-Fi passwords, time travel, and instant six-pack abs. The discussion included some humor about Amazon’s capabilities and limitations, with Keith and Jill making additional comments throughout the presentation. Anchor Topic The group discussed various communication methods for people who are blind or have low vision. Keith shared his experiences using digital recorders, phone dictation, and braille, while Jill and Terry discussed their own techniques. They also talked about the challenges and limitations of braille as a communication method. Email and Final Thoughts Keith read in email from Molly Parker describing an encounter with a tech support scammer, which the group found amusing. Keith presented two voicemail readings, starting with a humorous piece about a cow named Gerald from the UK, which he noted was slightly over the 3-minute time limit. He then played a second voicemail from a Kansas state trooper describing an unusual traffic stop involving a driver shaving her leg while driving. The final word from our AI companion The meeting was a casual session where participants shared jokes and humorous anecdotes. Keith, Terry, and Jill took turns telling jokes, ranging from puns to one-liners, with topics spanning various subjects including animals, technology, and everyday situations. The session concluded with information about the podcast, including how to listen to past episodes and contact the hosts. Show notes written by AI, edited as needed by Keith. Sponsored by: Retro Radio Podcast. Bringing you family-friendly entertainment through classic, old-time radio. Episodes are posted daily. Keith and his Retrobots share everything in his collection from the days of vintage radio. Adventure, comedy, detective, westerns, and lots in between. If you don't hear your favorite show, just ask Visit the web page today, https://retro-otr.com

In this episode, Rudy Mahosky pulls back the curtain on how he built a real estate business where 98% of his deals come directly from agents on the MLS.Whether you've been intimidated by on-market properties or struggle with appraisals, this episode is packed with actionable advice on how to let the buyers determine the value, lean on local experts for land development deals, and leave your ego at the door to get more contracts closed. Be a part of the TTP training program now.---------Show notes:(0:00) Beginning of today's episode (0:46) How Rudy shifted to closing 98% of his deals directly with agents on the MLS (3:10) Using Zillow and Redfin to target fresh listings under 14 days on market (5:43) The "Everyone Gets an Offer" strategy and why you should always use an LOI (11:38) The truth about appraisals: Why ready-and-willing buyers determine true value (15:31) Deep dive: Breaking down a Nashville teardown deal that sold for $25K over list price(23:21) Why networking with local land gurus and understanding zoning is a game-changer(28:07) Utilizing tools like Offer Gun to track and manage MLS offers----------Resources:ZillowRedfinGoHighLevelOffer Gun@RudyMahosky on Instagram To speak with Brent or one of our other expert coaches call (281) 835-4201 or schedule your free discovery call here to learn about our mentorship programs and become part of the TribeGo to Wholesalingincgroup.com to become part of one of the fastest growing Facebook communities in the Wholesaling space. Get all of your burning Wholesaling questions answered, gain access to JV partnerships, and connect with other "success minded" Rhinos in the community.It's 100% free to join. The opportunities in this community  are endless, what are you waiting for?

Keith explores how long-running social and economic shifts are redefining the American Dream—especially for younger adults who are putting off milestones like moving out, starting families, and buying homes.  He connects these trends to today's housing scarcity, elongated renter stage, and what that means for long-term rental demand and real estate investors. Keith also zooms out to place the current moment in the sweep of American history, then welcomes Redfin Chief Economist Dr. Daryl Fairweather for a data-driven conversation on affordability, supply constraints, renting versus owning, and how demographic changes could shape the next wave of opportunities in both ownership and rental markets. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   welcome to GRE I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, learn just how far behind today's 30 year olds are then American history by decade as the nation approaches its 250th birthday. Finally, a conversation about what's next for the housing market with Redfin's chief economist Darrell fairweather today on get rich education.   Corey Coates  0:27   Since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki, get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android. Listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast, or visit get rich education.com   Keith Weinhold  1:10   the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequel and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally, while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com   Speaker 1  1:44   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  1:54   Welcome to get rich Education. I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, the voice of real estate investing since 2014 almost nobody talks about a really important story going on in America today. And I find this really astonishing. I mean, you could almost never think of America the same way again, as you'll hear while you've got these other headlines out there, constantly sucking oxygen out of the room, like decisions from the White House and inflation and wars. One big story. It moves so slowly that it kind of creeps up on you. It is the jaw dropping change in American society over the last 40 years. And then we'll discuss its seismic changes for real estate. And this is sourced from a Census Bureau supplement. It's about how fewer us adults reach typical life milestones by age 30, and this is partly because more adults opt for college than in previous generations. Oh, well, college doesn't sound like such a bad thing. I'll get to that. And by the way, 30 is an age that has come and gone for me, so I've lived through it. We're looking at a period from 1985 to 2025 so 40 years first, it's those that live on their own. In 1985 it was 83% today it's just 67% so then the percentage that don't live on their own and probably live with their parents or roommates, that has doubled. You see even more drastic declines for other milestones since 1985 those that have ever married from 77% down to 45% those that live with a child and the responsibility that this entails that's fallen from 59% down to 36% and those that own a home 48 down to 29% and again, this is for all 30 year olds since 1985 this steady, sliding, relentless decline of those who live on their own, are married, have a child, or own a home, is pretty stunning, and this is inside the most powerful nation on Earth. And here's the thing, this pattern from about 40 years ago, it unabatedly crosses through booms and busts and bubbles and bailouts, sort of like it didn't even notice those things. Somewhat ironically, what's grown during this time is the percentage that have a bachelor's degree. It's gone from 25 up to 43% so therefore, here we. Are. We've got this generation that's better educated than ever, and yet more of them are stuck down on the launch pad. It's like we built better rockets yet we can't light the fuse. And before I help you make sense of this and tell you what I believe the main force behind it to be, you just got to consider what an unfathomable aberration this has all become. At age 25 James Madison was the key architect of the US Constitution. A lot of constitution signers were in their 20s and 30s. At age 21 Steve Jobs started Apple in a garage at 20 Bill Gates co founded Microsoft at 19 Mark Zuckerberg built Facebook in a dorm room. And sure, some of these are exceptional examples, but these people committed early, and then they figured it out on the fly.   Keith Weinhold  5:59   Well, what about women? The US birth rate has hit an all time record low, because today, nearly half of 30 year old women are still child free. Okay, so some of this is logical. You can connect a few dots here more time in school, yeah, all right, that means later marriages and later kids. Sure, student debt that equals financial Gravity Boots that keep you in place. Urban living means smaller spaces. But when you stack all this together, like I just laid out later, it's not just later anymore. It is really later. That is the huge change that really startles you when you put all of this together and again, remember, over this same time span, 1985 to today, I've mentioned before how the average age of the first time homebuyer has ballooned from 29 up to 40. I mean 40 that can really take some time to sink in. And again, that's just the average in high cost housing areas. This number could be 45 or higher. I mean, sheesh, the starter home is now like a midlife purchase, and it's made right around the time that your back starts to make decisions for you, consider where we are here now, the term home ownership that is increasingly linked to older people. Those things home ownership and older people are increasingly synonymous terms. Now, owning a home, it's like a luxury good for the already established. I mean, it is pretty jaw dropping. And one contributor to these friends is the lack of available housing supply, still a 60 to 70% collapse in some populous northeast states, but really something like that. That's just a small thing. When you amalgamate it all together, it's become cultural really. The bigger trend that underlies this decline in meeting life milestones at age 30 is that long term true inflation exceeds wage increases over the decades, but there are big social shifts too. And by the way, I left my parents home for good at age 23 and some surely do so younger than I did marriage and children, they are the classic triggers to buy a house, and the longer that these type of milestones get postponed, the more likely people are to favor then flexibility over committing to a mortgage, and this then means that there is an elongated renter stage of life. Renters are no longer just passing through they're no longer just graduated from college, renting a year or two and then buying a home. Instead, they are planting flags and really pounding in stakes. And there are countless surveys that show that renters value the ability of being able to relocate without the hassle of having to sell a house. And on top of all of these trends as America ages overall, something really interesting starts to happen. This is why single family rentals have really begun to shine over the past few years, and why you had this Advent and popularity of new build and build to rent rental properties coming onto the market because single families give people the feeling of home and space and privacy and a backyard for the dog, but yet at the same time, it's commitment light, a lighter version. Now apartments benefit too, of course, and for investors, this isn't just. The trend, this is a long term tailwind, fewer life transitions. It means more stable occupancy and longer renter life cycles that lead to fewer turnovers and vacancies and repairs, so less churn, more consistency and better predictability. So the bottom line here is that this delay of life milestones, it's not subtle. It is pretty seismic, and increasingly people say that the American dream no longer even includes home ownership. Demography is destiny, and they must rent from you. And here at GRE we invest like these trends are real, but I really want to emphasize that this elongated renter stage of life really is a long term, long tail phenomenon. And I want to emphasize that because, like I said last week, in the short term, we really aren't seeing any significant rent increases due to that affordability constraint. Now we're nearly five years after America had a big wave of consumer inflation, and that really hurt kind of people this age that I'm talking about, people in their 20s and 30s, that really hurt them the most because they don't own assets that compound with the concurrent asset price inflation, they only had to deal with the bad stuff, the consumer price inflation.    Keith Weinhold  11:30   And as America approaches its 250th birthday, let's think about how this era compares to other decades. And by the way, do you know what a 250th anniversary is called? I put a line about this in my newsletter that I sent you the other day. It is called a semiquincentennial, or, I guess, semi quincentennial. I don't think that anyone's going to be using that word after the fireworks. Semiquincentennial. That sounds like a word that an Economic Committee came up with during a recession to kind of mask a worse problem or something. I suppose that the etymology makes sense. If you break it down, quincentennial would be 500 and semi would be half of 500 in any case, as you try to compare this American era to others, listen to this from the parallel truth. This is about three minutes long, and then I'll come back to comment. It's America by decade, starting all the way back in the 1770s This is a decent summary here, although it can get unnecessarily gloomy at times.   Speaker 2  12:41   Imagine you could live in the United States one decade at a time, not the America you see in movies, not the America in textbooks, but the real America. Let's start with the 1770s the decade of independence. This is not a freedom story, yet. It's a war story. Most people are farmers, roads are mud, medicine is almost nothing. And if you're a young man, your future is simple, fight or starve. Then came the 1800s The decade of expansion. America is still small, but it's hungry, new land, new states, New promises, but there is also growing slavery. Native tribes are being pushed out, and the country is quietly building a conflict it can't avoid. Now it's the 1860s the decade America almost died. There is civil war, Brother versus brother. Cities are burning. If you lived here, you didn't watch history, you survived it. Next is the 1900s The decade of industrial America, factories, railroads, steel, oil. The country becomes a machine. Cities explode with workers, but life is brutal, long hours, dirty air, child labor, you might earn money, but you will pay with your health. It's the 1920s now, the decade of jazz and madness. This is America's first big party decade, cars, radio, Hollywood. Everyone thinks the future is unstoppable. Then came the 1930s the decade the party ended. The Great Depression happens, banks collapse and jobs disappear. People line up for bread. A man with a suit could be broke in one week. This decade teaches America one lesson, that money is not real until it's in your hand. It's the 1940s now the decade America became the world's boss. World War Two turns the US into the world's factory. While Europe is burning, America is building. And when the war ends, America comes out richer than anyone in history. It's the 1950s the decade of the American dream, suburbs, big houses, one salary supports a whole family, TV dinners, new cars, new highways. This is the decade America sells the world the idea of perfect life. Next came 1960s the decade of rebellion, civil rights, Vietnam assassinations, the country feels like it's splitting. You could be hopeful or terrified, sometimes both in the same week, 1970s was the decade the system started breaking, oil crisis, inflation, crime rate, and in 1971 America quietly changes money forever. The dollar stops being backed by gold. From this point onward, America runs on trust. It. The 1980s the decade of Wall Street, America, big business, big spending. The stock market becomes religion. America looks confident again, but the middle class starts weakening slowly. Then came the 1990s the decade America felt unstoppable. The Soviet Union has collapsed and the US feels untouchable. The internet is born. This is the decade where Americans truly believe that they have won. It's the 2000s now the decade of shock, 911, wars, fear, surveillance, then 2008 hits, banks crash, housing collapses, and America learns something painful. The people who caused the crisis don't pay for it. It's the 2000s and 10s, the decade of the digital trap. Social media becomes reality, politics becomes war. Everyone is online, but nobody feels connected. The economy recovers, but normal people don't. And finally, it's the 2020s. The decade, chaos became normal. Pandemic changes everything. Supply chains are collapsing, inflation returns, AI arrives and trust collapses. And by 2026 America is still rich, but it feels exhausted. People are working harder, owning less, and trusting nobody. And the strangest part is that America didn't collapse. It just slowly became a different country, not through invasion, not through revolution, but through decades of small changes that added up to a completely new reality. So the real question is, if you could choose one decade to live in? Which one would you pick?   Keith Weinhold  16:22    Yeah, which decade would you pick to live in? A lot of people say the 1950s where we had, like they touched on there the post war boom and how one salary could support an entire household. Some people say the 1990s because the Cold War ended, we had the start of Wide Internet use, and it's before you had these stark political divisions where people started to put party ahead of country. Now some people would probably say, Are you kidding me? I'd rather live in this decade right here. I can work from home more easily than I ever could have before. And I think you can make valid cases for all of those things. And speaking of this era, a quarter just ended, and we do this quarterly at most. It's our asset class rundown. Year over year, national home prices are only up about half of 1% per the nar 1% Case Shiller and totality, single family rent index shows just 1.3% rent growth. That's year over year. This quarter, the s, p5 100 was down 5% stocks of all types are down largely to the Iran war. The yield on the 10 year treasury note rose from 4.1 up to 4.3% due to higher inflation expectations. Why does that matter so much? That's what influences 30 year mortgage rates, which also rose from 6.2 up to 6.5% West Texas Intermediate oil prices soared from 59 bucks to over 100 last quarter. Gold hit an all time high of 5400 bucks in the quarter, and then fell to about 4600 by the end of the quarter. Other precious metals hit their all time peak. Bitcoin fell from 88k down to 68k That's the asset class rundown. I'll return with Redfin's chief economist, Dr Darrell fairweather and more. 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It's Robert Helms of the real estate guys radio program, so glad you found Keith Weinhold and get rich education, don't quit your Daydream.   Keith Weinhold  20:35   This week's guest is the chief economist of Redfin during the housing crisis. She worked at the Boston Fed, studying why homeowners enter foreclosure. Since 2023 she served at the Federal Reserve Bank of Dallas. She holds her BS from MIT, and she really knows her way around campuses, because she received her Master's and PhD in Economics at the University of Chicago, where she specialized in behavioral economics, that's interesting. Welcome to GRE. Darrell fairweather,   Daryl Fairweather  21:06   thank you for having me.    Keith Weinhold  21:08   Hey, Daryl. I'd like to get to some of the statistics later in the things that Redfin does and compiles, but tell us about the behavioral side of the housing market that's often so interesting and evencounterintuitive   Daryl Fairweather  21:22   yeah, one of the most interesting things about the housing market is that people get really emotional when making this huge financial decision. It's something that people don't have a lot of practice with. Most people maybe buy a home once or twice in their whole life. There's so much social weight that's put on it. It's the American dream. There's a lot of family pressure, and there's a lot of hurting behavior that can happen. People get swept up in the moment. Maybe they overbid on a home, or maybe they miss out because other people are avoiding the housing market. So it's a really interesting place to both study psychology and economics.   Keith Weinhold  21:56   Sure, most homeowners are just inexperienced at this whole thing. Yeah, behavioral economics, it really has this strong gravity in real estate. Maybe something that you've said touches on what I call the Zestimate illusion. A lot of times, sellers anchor their price to not just the Zillow estimate, but sometimes even the peak sale price in the whole neighborhood, and that's what they think that they should get for their home?   Daryl Fairweather  22:21   Yeah, that does happen quite a bit. And I don't think a lot of people realize how much those estimates can move once a home is listed. The list price tends to move that estimate quite a lot. So it's not a fact. And those estimates don't really know many details about the home, like what upgrades might have happened, or what internally is happening within the home, like if people have gotten new appliances or gotten a new air conditioning system, it doesn't really take those things into account. So you shouldn't just anchor off of the Redfin estimate. You should definitely talk to an agent. Look at the comps. The comps can tell you a lot in terms of what homes have sold for recently, and then track your local market in terms of whether it is going up in value or down in value, because those comps might be a little bit stale, and you have to adjust for where the market is right now.   Keith Weinhold  23:06   There's some really good points there. And when I think of the behavioral side of economics in the real estate market, another nascent thing that comes to mind Darrell, is the rate shock paralysis that really set in in America in 2022 mortgage rates are still historically on the low side. But few people think about it that way. They're really swayed by the recency bias   Daryl Fairweather  23:31   yes. And one thing to take into account, though, is how much home prices have gone up since the last time rates were this high. So if you're looking at the monthly mortgage payment and how much that is compared to people's monthly incomes, it is quite expensive to buy a home. In most metros, you cannot afford to buy a home on the local median income. There's only maybe four metros that are in the middle of the country where it's still affordable to buy a home on a middle class salary. So combined the rate and the price those mortgage payments are still quite expensive, although they have gotten slightly more affordable since last year because rates are slightly lower than last year, they did come up a bit with, you know, oil prices coming up, but still, compared to last year, rates are a bit lower and a bit more affordable to get a home.   Keith Weinhold  24:13   And of course, all this is besides the point that those 2021, mortgage rates, they were born out of a collapsing economy, and I don't think that we really want that either. But yes, to your point about affordability, that's been such a buzzword in the housing market for quite a while, and for good reason. It wasn't very long ago that we reached a 40 year low in affordability. Can you tell us about what can improve affordability next? Darrell or what's most likely to happen? For example, it seems like insurance rate increases have really leveled off.   Daryl Fairweather  24:50   Yes, the reason why affordability is so bad, especially in coastal cities, the places that have the most opportunities, is because of a lack of supply. Existing homeowners, they are fine. They like when their home goes up in value, but it really is a problem for first time homebuyers, when prices just keep climbing and when new housing gets proposed, it's often the existing homeowners who are blocking that housing from getting built, and so supply is constrained. You can see this very clearly in a place like San Francisco, which had a huge economic boom in the 2010s yet housing did not keep up with all of the job opportunities that were coming to the area, and when you have all these people moving in with higher incomes, it drives up prices when there isn't adequate supply. You take Austin as another example. Austin had a huge boom during the pandemic, but supply responded. Builders built, there was a lot of development that happened, and as a result, prices came right back down. They're still above where they were pre pandemic, but nowhere near the heights that we saw back in 2021 so it just goes to show that when you allow supply to get built, it does help keep prices more moderate and keep things more affordable.   Keith Weinhold  25:59   Yes, and nimbyism is rampant, is consumer inflation or some of the other big forces out there, for sure, but yes, this national dearth of supply something that's existed even well before the pandemic, for example, it's bounced back somewhat, but still not quite enough, and it's really part of what, in my opinion, has helped support housing prices, even when mortgage rates tripled back in 2022 Can you tell us more what you believe about the future of housing supply with all the data that you do with there at Redfin Daryl,   Daryl Fairweather  26:37   housing supply improved a bit during the pandemic, but we're still far below What we need in order to make housing more accessible to middle class people. But there are new challenges that are coming. One that you mentioned is insurance. Insurance costs are going up. So even if you have a fixed rate mortgage and you've locked that in, you still have to worry about the rising cost of ownership because of insurance costs are going up. Property taxes are going up in many places, and maintenance costs are increasing. So that is going to make home ownership, and just the cost of ownership in general, whether you're an investor or an owner occupant, more expensive moving forward. And that's going to vary depending on where you are. There going to be some parts of the country where insurance goes up much faster, like in Florida, and other parts where insurance will probably be more stable like in the Midwest and Great Lakes region. So it's important now even more so to really research the neighborhood, research the home, and figure out how those expenses could increase in the future.   Keith Weinhold  27:32   Yeah, here we are in this housing market where, you know, Darrell, I think of it in a lot of ways, is, you know, maybe for three years now, we've largely been stuck in the mud, much of it due to lower supply, where we have a lower overall proportion of both buyers and sellers.   Daryl Fairweather  27:48   Yeah, what's happening right now is really an hangover from the pandemic, because so many people locked in 3% mortgage rates during the pandemic, and if those homeowners were to sell and buy again. Even if they bought the same priced home, they would end up paying more in their monthly mortgage payment because of how much higher mortgage rates are, and that's holding back supply quite significantly. It's the reason why prices have not come down despite rates going up, is because the higher rates are holding back both demand and supply at the same time, and contributing to the overall lack of inventory that's out there,   Keith Weinhold  28:24   this aberration where we have a big proportion of American homeowners living in homes where if they tried to repurchase that home at today's terms, they couldn't even do it. To your point about people not wanting to move, and that's a big reason why they almost can't. They might pay more in rent elsewhere for a like property if they were to sell what they own, if those still locked in terms and Darrell here, I think, you know, our audience is largely real estate investors, a lot of them investing in one to four unit properties. So with what you're seeing there at Redfin. And I think a lot of us know that, yeah, rent growth has been pretty slow as well. What do you see for rents in 2026 and perhaps 2027   Daryl Fairweather  29:08   originally, when we went to go do our predictions for 2026 we said that rents were going to increase this year. Now, I think that rents will continue to stay flat, and that's because there's still a lack of demand for for sale housing. People are staying in the rental market, but people are overall tightening their budgets because they're worried about the economy. They're worried about inflation. So if they can, you know, get roommates or live with family, they're going to choose to do that to keep their overall expenses lower, which will reduce demand for both for sale housing and for rental housing. And I think a lot of home sellers, they've tried to sell their homes. We saw many people try to sell their homes last year and then end up delisting their homes, and they're trying again. We saw more of those people come back in January, but I think those people are going to continue to kind of try to test the market, be a bit disappointed that there isn't enough demand, and then some of. Up for sale housing will end up as rental housing. Just driving around my neighborhood, I see so many rental signs on single family homes that I never saw before, almost more for rent signs, and I'm seeing for sale signs, so that added inventory from these accidental landlords who would like to move but don't want to give up their mortgage rate is going to increase the supply of single family rentals, and that will mean more competition for those investors that are trying to rent out the homes.   Keith Weinhold  30:27   Talk to us about rental occupancy. That's something that we're seeing at a historic low in apartment buildings, for one thing. But can you talk to us about what you see for future occupancy levels of both residential one to fours and apartments. Going forward,   Daryl Fairweather  30:43   a lot of new supply came online during the pandemic, especially in places that build a lot of condos. Many one bedroom or zero bedroom condos got built, and then those are really difficult to rent out, because, you know, they're just not that attractive. We really have more of a shortage of types of housing that's appropriate for families and those one bedroom units that are really targeted at like affluent young people. There aren't that many affluent people right now, so they're they're difficult to rent out. I think that trend is pretty much over. We're not seeing too many more condos being developed because the condos that were developed during the pandemic are still having trouble finding owners or finding renters in those apartment buildings. Now, I think we're going to start to see an uptick in single family rental vacancy, because I think a lot of those people who would like to sell their homes are having trouble selling their homes because of how mortgage rates are and how skittish people are about making a commitment to ownership right now, and they're going to alternatively try to rent out those and that will mean more availability of those rentals and not as much pressure on rents to go up in that segment of the market.   Keith Weinhold  31:51   Woe for the builder that targeted young, affluent types, they don't really exist so much anymore. That's really pretty interesting. Well, Darrell, do you have any last thoughts overall about the housing market? Maybe something I didn't think about asking you that's really important, whether that's for an investor or a prospective homeowner.    Daryl Fairweather  32:12   Yeah, I think if I was an investor right now, I would be paying attention to what economists and housing people call the silver tsunami that's older generations starting to sell their homes. We did a study recently that showed that people who are 70 years and above have as much wealth and housing as middle aged people, which is the first time that group has exceeded in terms of the wealth that they hold. And if you're 70 plus, there's definitely a clock ticking on how long you're going to stay in that home, which means that a lot of new inventory will become available in those homes. They probably need work. They probably need some renovations, and that could be a really great opportunity for an investor to buy a home that maybe has been neglected for a while because it's been a senior living in there who hasn't been really keeping it up to date. You can renovate it and perhaps sell it again to a younger buyer by doing some updates and make a nice profit there.    Speaker 3  33:03   Oh, well, Daryl, this has been a great update laced with plenty of practical things that someone can actually do. Do you have a resource you'd like to share in case our audience would like to connect?   Daryl Fairweather  33:16   Yes, you can find me basically on any social media channel. I'd recommend checking you out on YouTube to start. And then if you would like data on what's happening in your local housing market, you can check out the Redfin data center. Just Google Redfin data center, it'll bring you right there. And you can find lots of local data on your market,   Keith Weinhold  33:34   Daryl Fairweather. It's been great having you here on the show.   Daryl Fairweather  33:37    Thank you.   Keith Weinhold  33:44   Yeah, insightful material from Dr Darrell fairweather today, no end to the housing scarcity in sight. She says, rents continue to stay flat, partly due to this accidental landlord. They didn't plan to be a landlord, but they need to move and yet they don't want to sell the single family home that they got with a good owner occupied financing a few years ago. And the reason that's a headwind for single family investors, because it keeps more rental supply on the market. Last week, I touched on how you should not expect rent increases in the near term, I own a lot of single family rentals myself, and I am not getting rent increases. It's not so much that single family vacancies are high now, but apartment building vacancies are high. That fact alone that actually does hurt the single family rental market a little, because even though a renter might desire a single family, and maybe you think, Well, an apartment couldn't compete with that feeling. But yet, if an apartment is so much cheaper than the single family, and they often are now, well then that renter will go for the cheap apartment instead the one. You can think of Redfin is that they're part Zillow, part real estate agent, and part data company, and they can give you early signals on things like buyer demand and price direction and days on market, those types of indicators. So for the latest housing market research and news, you can do a search for the Redfin data center, and then for Daryl, start on YouTube. You can follow her on x at fairweather PhD, thanks to Dr Darrell fairweather today, until next week, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 5  35:36   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively to   Keith Weinhold  35:56   the preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth, building, get richeducation.com  

Keith challenges the belief that all debt is bad and reframes it as a tool for building wealth when used intentionally.  He contrasts destructive consumer debt with productive investment debt, especially in real estate, and explains how inflation, long-term fixed-rate loans, and rental income can work together to grow net worth.  Keith explores the mindset shift from prioritizing safety and being debt-free to pursuing growth through leverage, highlights the opportunity cost of avoiding debt, and offers practical guidelines for using borrowing rationally rather than emotionally.  He also shows how modern economies and many wealthy individuals rely on strategic debt, positioning it as a key part of a more intentional, asset-focused version of the American Dream. 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Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:00   welcome to GRE. I'm your host. Keith weinholder, there's bad debt, good debt and great debt. Are you using debt wisely, and are you ensuring that you stay in debt? Because debt is the American dream today, on get rich education milestone episode 600   Corey Coates  0:23   since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki. Get rich education can be heard in every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast. Sign up now for the get rich education podcast, or visit get rich education.com   Keith Weinhold  1:06   the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequel and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com that's Ridge lending group.com   Speaker 1  1:40   You're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  1:56   Welcome to GRE from Kennewick, Washington at Kennebunkport, Maine and across 188 nations worldwide. I'm Keith Weinhold, and you are inside get rich education. Yes, America's favorite slack jawed mammal on a microphone has got his act back on track, for your listening pleasure, since 2014 This is our 600th wealth building week in a row, you've been misled, not maliciously, not even intentionally, but somewhere along the way, a really expensive idea got planted inside your head, and it was once planted inside my head, that debt is bad, just blanketly bad, that the goal is to be debt free, that owing money to somebody else is something to escape as fast as possible. And look, I get it, if your mindset is in the old middle class consumer credit world like mine was for much of my life, debt feels heavy, it feels like risk, it feels like obligation, but the people telling you to avoid debt, they're the same people that never built much wealth now a reliance on 22% APR, credit card debt just To pay basic living expenses, because it's the only way that you could do it, merely making the minimum monthly payment that right there is the road to ruin. Why? Well, because the interest rate is high, because you have to pay it back yourself, and because it's unsecured, meaning that there's no collateral, and at the same time, the people quietly getting rich, what are they doing? They're using debt every single day. So debt is not the enemy, it's just the tool, and like any tool, it can build a house, or it can smash your thumb if you miss the nail. Well today we're going to separate the two, because if you understand this one concept, then you stop playing defense financially and start going on offense. In fact, I'll go further. Debt isn't the opposite of the American Dream used correctly. Debt is the American dream. Now, my turning point was really fueled when I made my first ever home, that $295,000 blue four Plex Building Two decades ago, with just my three and a half percent down payment. That meant that 96 and a half percent was borrowed. That's debt, and that fueled everything for me, and got the ball rolling on using that seminal four Plex to leverage even more debt and more property with 1031 exchanges and cash out refinances debt made that American dream free. Me because I could not have afforded $295,000 all cash back then. Now, a guest that we had on the show last year and the owner of a commercial lending company, Hannah Hannan, she recently talked about the virtues of debt. I met Hannah because we were both faculty members on last year's real estate guys Investor Summit at sea cruise. Well, Hannah went on a different cruise and saw in Jamaica that there were all these vacant and uncompleted houses just sort of weirdly stuck at different stages of construction. She asked the tour guide, why are these houses all abandoned? And and the tour guide answered, we don't have loans here in Jamaica. People have to work make money and then start the build, and then the build pauses while they make more money, and then they have to construct the next phase of the build as they go and go back to making more money like that. I mean, sheesh, that's awful. Can you imagine if you had to build a home or a rental property for yourself that way? Well, back here in the US, access to debt is what allows people to build wealth faster, especially in real estate, you can use other people's money control large assets, pay less in taxes and compound off a much smaller amount of capital. That's the difference. Debt availability is really good in the US compared to other nations, and that's the emphasis on the American part of today's episode. Debt is the American dream. Now, when it comes to the big misunderstanding, most people think that debt is really just one thing. They just lump it all like it's all bad, credit cards, car loans, student loans, mortgages. A lot of people, they really do. They just still throw it all into one mental bucket that's sort of labeled da, avoid that at all costs. I'm telling you, no way you cannot do that. I mean, this is like saying food is bad because candy exists. No, there's junk food and there's fuel. It's the same with debt. Consumer debt is a wealth killer. Investment debt is a wealth creator, and if you don't know the difference well, you end up avoiding the very thing that could move your life forward. Here's another way to think about it, debt doesn't make you poor. Using debt poorly makes you poor.    Keith Weinhold  7:36   In real estate, inflation is quietly paying your mortgage, even if you never made a principal payment at all. When you really understand this, it almost sounds too good to be true. Most people think inflation is just rising prices, and it is that, but they miss the other side of the equation. Inflation also shrinks debt, something I've been talking about for more than 10 years here. If you have a 30 year fixed rate mortgage, you're paying back that loan with future dollars that are worth less, and meanwhile, rents tend to rise, wages tend to rise, and asset values tend to rise, but your mortgage, it stays fixed. Inflation can't touch it, and that means that over time, your payment gets easier and easier to make. Oh, and then if you've got a tenant in place as well, oh, they're the one sending in the check for everything. And inflation is not just happening to you. It's now working for you. If you've got, say, a $500,000 mortgage loan, and inflation is 3% well, then inflation enriched you by $15,000 every single year. That's $1,250 a month just on this 500k mortgage loan. And if you've got an investment property rented out. You've even got the tenant paying down, oh, maybe $400 in monthly principal for you on the property, plus this $1,250 in inflation profiting, plus $100 of cash flow. This is $1,750 in monthly benefit before we've even added in your tax benefits and the appreciation potential. What made this all happen debt is what made it all a reality for you. When we talk about why the middle class fears debt, yeah, there is a mindset divide here. On one side, it simply says, get out of debt, stay out of debt and avoid risk. On the other we ask, How can I use that to acquire assets? So it's really like the first group is focused on safety and the second group is focused on growth, and after a while you have to ask bigger X. Potential questions like, do you want to live a life of safety, or do you want to live a life of growth? Now, I'm not knocking discipline, but there is a hidden cost to avoiding debt entirely. It's called opportunity cost. When you pay all cash, oh, well, then you lose leverage, you lose scalability, you lose tax advantages, and you often lose time. Hey, just like I would have by postponing my first four Plex purchase for, say, five plus years until I could have saved up all that money by myself. That's why playing it safe is often the riskiest move, because while you're sitting on the sidelines, inflation and rising prices are still in the game, and you've taken yourself out of the game. When we talk about the American dream, look, America was built on debt leverage.    Keith Weinhold  11:01   Zoom out for a second. This isn't just about you and me. America itself was built on debt. Railroads were financed with borrowed money that helped Cornelius Vanderbilt build his railroad empire in the 1800s in the 1900s highways were funded through government debt. Today, our entire suburbs are built on mortgages. Leverage didn't break the system. It built the system. So it's kind of ironic that today people are told the safest move is to avoid the very mechanism that built this modern economy that you and I are living inside every day. Debt is how things get done. Now, practically, yes, debt can absolutely wreck you if it's used poorly. So we think about some simple guardrails then favor fixed rate debt over variable match long term debt with long term assets, and you want to chiefly borrow for cash flowing or appreciating assets, and also stress test your deals assume that things won't go perfectly. So this certainly is not about being reckless. It's about being intentional. Debt should serve you, not the other way around. And now notice how I said to chiefly use debt for cash flowing or appreciating assets. I didn't say solely because you'll remember how last year, I talked to you about how I bought a new car for myself and financed as much as I was allowed, almost 100% debt. I had to make, like, a two or 3k down payment on the car because it was a special order. And once they start, you know, building it and customizing it for me, well, then they're at risk if they don't have a deposit, all right? Well, I found a way to make this car debt pretty good debt. Oh, and you might be thinking, oh, yeah, of course. Well, if you use it for business, you probably get some deductions that way. Oh, no, no. Business use totally a personal car, almost leveraged to the hilt, but it's not bad debt, and I'll tell you why. By the way, this isn't some high end exotic car. It's a BMW x3 SUV. It was like 53 or 55k and now how could I possibly call this good debt? Nope, I'm not running it out to other people or anything like that, because here, unlike income property, where a tenant pays it down, I do have to make these car payments myself. Well, in a word, the reason I did it this way is for the arbitrage. I got a fixed 3.99% interest rate for five years. Call it 4% Oh, I am almost certainly going to beat that by investing those dollars in real estate. So the 55k almost that I did not have to allocate to a car. Oh, well, that amount is enough for a down payment and closing costs on a cash flowing rental. That's probably going to pay me five ways with a total ROI that I expect to be multiples above the 4% interest rate, but the car's value depreciates. What about that debt on a depreciating asset? A car depreciates at the same rate whether it's bought all cash or all debt. It doesn't matter. Here is the better question, why tie up that much in a depreciating asset? 55k if I had paid all cash which I could have, I would have foregone returns and paid opportunity cost. Now, arbitraging car debt this way. That's not great debt. I don't put it in that category like real estate that pays for itself is and that is mostly because no tenant services. My personal car debt. For me, this car debt is just good debt, not great debt. Now how about some more guardrails? How can you keep yourself from going nuts and just trying to arbitrage everything. How would you know if you've gone too far? I mean, any person that's savvy with personal finance has to ask themselves a question, and that is always, what is the risk associated with this investment, or what is the risk associated with this debt, right? Because I already talked about the upsides of car debt this way. Well, the first risk is that I don't successfully arbitrage it. Rather than having the 55k sunk into the car, I have it invested elsewhere than say, it doesn't achieve a greater than 4% return. Well, the risk of that happening is small, maybe about a 10% chance. What's another big risk of leveraging car debt this way? Well, it's if you cannot make the monthly payment, which for me is about $1,050 a month, 1050 that's a comfortable payment. For me, if you can't make the payment that's called, you got yourself into an over leveraged condition. But for me, these risks are manageable. And this is applied thinking. This is clear eyed thinking, rational decision making, a level headed approach, a long term approach. It's common sense investing. Have a strategy and then invest your plan, not your emotions. Look paying off debt. That's often an emotional response, like when the debt is at a low interest rate and yes, understanding that debt is the American dream. Okay, this is still a pretty unconventional understanding, for sure, but it is pragmatism over emotions. When emotions go up, intelligence goes down. You can see that in a lot of places in your life. I can too. I think that a lot of the emotion happened to us when we were really young, perhaps age 12. And maybe you're saying, Oh, well, grandpa, he would not have arranged his finances this way. Grandpa wouldn't have leveraged all this real estate debt, and he sure wouldn't have thought that arbitraging car debt is savvy, but your grandpa was born before 1971 back when the dollar was still gold, backed if you're older now, your grandpa might have even been affected by living through the 1930s Great Depression. Our world does not work that way. Today, the dollar is no longer tethered to gold. It's just borrowed and lent into existence, and another Great Depression that's actually really unlikely. In the 1930s President Herbert Hoover refused to provide government support to prop up the economy, and sheesh today, any crisis is like immediately propped up by us printing a ton of dollars and then giving them out, just like covid stimulus checks and mortgage loan forbearance and all of that debt, debt, debt. Now I don't think that all of that is good, but you got to acknowledge that that's the world we live in today. If you're debt averse, because grandpa always said to stay out of debt, well then you know what you can take solace. Take comfort in the fact that today, ultimately, grandpa would have understood that the world changed, and he would want what is best for you.    Keith Weinhold  19:03   I'm get rich education. Host Keith Weinhold, this week, we're talking about why debt is the American dream on episode 600 with guidance that's practical, contrarian investor first and non emotional. Contrarian does not mean reckless. And by the way, just because something is mainstream, well, that doesn't necessarily make it bad, but in this case with debt, it often does. Here we're kind of back onto the old Mark Twain quote. Go out on a limb, that's where the fruit is. This is independent thinking for real world investors. It's where theory meets what actually works, and I'll discuss some specific actionable guidance for you before we're done today. But this is largely about ignoring the masses and following a clear incentive path. And what do the masses do? Now they kind of all gel together and get pumped up when they follow these debt free call in radio shows where the host advises the caller to always desperately retire debt at all costs. They'll even tell you work a second and a third job. You got to postpone vacations. They'll tell you to defer your life and go into lifestyle debt. Then in order to desperately stay out of financial debt, we're never going to get that time back. So just chill, take it easy with a lot of debt types inflation and sometimes tenants both passively pay it back for you. I mean, on these debt free call in radio shows, almost every time they give guidance, I kind of chuckle when I listen to this stuff. I sort of quietly ask myself, how would that path ever build wealth like when people are advised to retire 3% mortgage debt? Why dreadful sounding guidance like this happens is because it keeps irresponsible people from going over a cliff. That's all it serves to do. I mean, you're here listening to me because you're good with money, or you desire to be good with money and not give all your money away to creditors used intelligently. Debt isn't reckless. It's a tool, and it's one that lets you scale without trading every hour of your life for dollars. It seems to me that some of the groups of people that need to hear the debt is the American Dream message. They tend to be in a few groups. I need to be careful here, but I'm talking about groups like people with less financial education, engineers and women. It doesn't mean that people with less financial education are any less intelligent. And then when it comes to the engineering profession, you know that type of person tends to be unusually conservative, and I've worked for engineering firms in the past, so I wouldn't know this is somewhat of a paradox. Since engineers are the calculating types, you would think that they would have leverage and arbitrage figured out, and then women are a group that they tend to be more debt averse than most, and this is not a knock on women at all. In fact, women generally do a lot of things better than men do. I mean, I could go on and on there, like emotional intelligence and social awareness and relationship building and even multitasking and sticking to a plan, but I know couples where the husband does understand that it does not make a lick of financial sense to pay off the home, but he did it because the wife wants it so badly she deems that as security. But yeah, there was a time in my life where I thought that being millions of dollars in debt. Oh, that just sounded awful, like I thought that after graduating from college, but Oh, position well, with leverage in real estate, after a long time, you might get yourself where you're increasing your debt half a million bucks every year, but right alongside it, you're increasing your asset value 1 million bucks every year. Well, right there, since net worth is assets minus debt, you're increasing your net worth by a half million bucks a year because you have a big amount to leverage, because you've been a real estate investor for a long time. For example, debt made that American dream possible. But, yeah, the needling engineer type that's conventional and is like still the guy faithfully contributing to their 401 k which is locked up until their age, 59 and a half and keeps paying down debt. You know, they're the ones showing up to their engineering job in a pair of Dockers pants. I'm telling you, people that wear Dockers are not good debtors. I mean, do they still make stupid Dockers? I've got to look that up. Do those pants have pleats at the front or not? I don't even know.    Speaker 2  24:16   Levi's 100% cotton Dockers. If you're not wearing Dockers, you're just wearing pants.   Keith Weinhold  24:21   Oh jeez. And yeah, they still do make Dockers. I mean, the stereotypical needling engineer that dutifully contributes to a 401, K, he's got to have a complete dresser drawer full of stupid Dockers, no doubt.   Keith Weinhold  24:37   Hey, I can make a little fun of them, because I spent a lot of time in that world. I think it makes sense to contribute to a 401 K, by the way, but only up to the employer match amount. That way it's tax advantaged, and you're using other people's money one to one, but above that, oh, every dollar you lock inside a 401 k is $1 that can No. Longer leverage other people's money. That means no debt, no leverage, and a steep opportunity cost. Now to get a holistic picture here, we need to think through what are some reasons to pay down debt, or to pay off debt and completely retire it? Because there are some good reasons for doing that. I talked about credit cards earlier, student loan debt is also not good debt, because you must pay that debt, not somebody else, like a tenant, and now their interest rates are not as high as credit cards, but there's also no collateral with student loans. Maybe you could arbitrage it, like I did with my car, but student loan debt can't be discharged in bankruptcy. Like most other debt types, can you also want to pay off debt when an interest rate is working against you and not for you. Also, if you want to buy more property, but you need to lower your DTI in order to qualify with your mortgage loan underwriter that is lower your debt to income ratio before you take out another mortgage. Oh, well, that would be a reason, for example, to pay off a car loan. Another reason to pay off debt is if you're approaching retirement and you expect a decrease in your income, then you would want to revisit that here at GRE you might be structuring things to increase your income once you retire. That's its own discussion. They are some of the reasons to pay off debt. It makes sense sometimes, and with all those reasons, we've kept emotions out of it. But otherwise, yeah, bring on the good debt. Debt and loan are my two favorite four letter words the wealthiest people have the most debt. I've discussed that reality before on previous episodes, and I gave a lot of examples, like with Mark Zuckerberg and also with Jay Z and Beyonce, so I won't go into all that again. So therefore, let me discuss how, not only do the wealthiest people have the most debt, I mean, for example, I'm wealthier than I've ever been, and I simultaneously have the most debt that I've ever had. Not surprisingly, the wealthiest world nations have the most debt too. Let's look at it from the perspective of household debt as a percent of GDP. There are about 200 world nations, and sure enough, the US ranks pretty high 13th in this measure of household debt, the top 10 nations, counting them down from 10 to one is and look, they're all wealthy nations that have the most debt, Sweden, Denmark, Hong Kong, Norway, South Korea. Up to fifth is New Zealand. And then you've got the Netherlands at fourth, and then Canada, Australia, and number one is the nation that you probably think of as the most wealthy and stable in the entire world. It is Switzerland. They are number one in household debt per GDP, and then the poorest of the 200 world nations have the least debt and the highest interest rates and the least stable currencies. But see, the wealthy nations can borrow the most. These countries can borrow trillions because investors trust them. Their economies are productive and they can service the payments just like you see, say that I know you've got $5 million in debt. Just say that's true. All right. Well, now that's an interesting thing that I know about you, and now I can automatically deduce something else about you. I know that you must be pretty credit worthy for anyone to have even extended you that much credit. So a high debt level is a mark of creditworthiness. The richest people have the most debt and the richest nations have the most debt too. Debt is a contract with time. Here's the deeper idea, debt lets you pull future resources into today. It's financial time travel. But there is a catch. You need to deploy that capital into something that grows faster than the cost of borrowing. If you do that, you win. If you don't, then you just brought future problems into the present debt is time travel, and most people just waste the trip. That's why debt has a bad name. Debt Free surely is not the goal. But you know, even hitting a certain net worth or income mark is not an end goal. Their financial goal. But not the end. The end goal is genuinely living the best version of you. And in fact, let's listen to this together for a minute or two from the parallel truth. Are you really living? It's a little oversimplified, but this is quite a bit more substantive than civil engineers wearing Levi's 100% cotton Dockers. Don't be startled by the sound effects.   Speaker 3  30:23   If you really think working 50 years at a job you hate just to get a few years of so called Freedom makes sense, then I'm sorry to say, you have been brainwashed. This is not living. It's a trap. From the moment you're born, the system starts programming you. School doesn't teach you to think. It teaches you to obey, to sit still, follow orders and wait for permission. Then comes work, where your best years, your energy, your creativity, all get drained away to build someone else's dream. And they call that success. Retirement is the prize they dangle in front of you. Work hard now, they say, so one day you can finally rest. But by the time that day comes, your body's worn out, your fire's gone, and all those dreams you once had, they faded into routine. You traded your time for money and then your health to earn it back. And here's the cruel truth, that's not an accident. It's designed that way, a system built to keep you tired, broke and too distracted to notice what's really happening. They want you so busy surviving that you forget to actually live the scam is simple. They steal your youth when it's full of energy, passion and possibility, and then hand you back your freedom when you're too weak to use it. And the worst part, most people defend the very system that's enslaving them. They call it normal life. They laugh at anyone who questions it, because it's easier to believe the lie than to face the truth. But nothing about this is normal. It's just comfortable enough to stop you from revolting. They give you weekends, holidays and Netflix tiny doses of relief so you don't question the cage you live in. You were born to create, to explore, to build your own path, not to clock in and out until the day you die. The world doesn't need more workers. It needs more thinkers, more dreamers, more people brave enough to walk away from the illusion. So ask yourself, are you really living or just slowly dying inside a system that calls itself freedom?   Speaker 4  31:59   Yeah. Are you truly living or just existing with GRE plan, you can often retire in five to 10 years. So no debt isn't something to fear. It's something to understand. Because the difference between being stuck financially and moving forward faster than you thought possible, it often comes down to one thing, whether you avoid debt or you learn to use it, the American dream is not about being debt free. It's more about owning assets, leveraging wisely, and then letting time tenants and inflation do some of the heavy lifting for you, all of your life. Debt is the American dream, and I've got more on this for you today, coming up here on the show in future, GRE episodes, Rich Dad, Poor Dad. Author Robert Kiyosaki publicly states that he has $1.4 billion in debt, billion with a B, not because he's irresponsible, because he understands leverage and debt often entails a tax advantage with it too. Later this spring, Robert Kiyosaki returns to the show with me here. He's been one of our more recurrent guests over time. Next week, Redfin chief economist, Darrell fairweather, PhD, sits down with me here. Also a lot of other prominent guests lined up, like real estate influencer thatch Wynn will be here with me and lots of other great episodes coming up, including a lot of content that you wouldn't expect to hear that can make a real difference in your life. Be sure to follow or subscribe to the show and also tell a friend about the show today could very well be one of these paradigm shifting episodes that you want to share on social media. More straight ahead you're listening to debt is the American Dream On get rich education.    Keith Weinhold  33:50   Let me throw out a simple idea, sometimes doing nothing with your money is actually a decision. Leaving it parked might feel safe, but over time, purchasing power changes. So the conversation isn't about chasing returns. It's about intentionally placing money somewhere. Freedom, family investments works in real estate people use every day housing, senior communities, essential properties, things tied to living and not trends, their freedom notes. Offering is built for accredited investors looking for structured income backed by real assets, not speculation. I am an investor with them myself. The Freedom team makes themselves available to walk through their approach, structure and operating philosophy, so you can ask questions and determine alignment before moving forward, while past performance doesn't guarantee future results, their historical operating philosophy has yielded 100% investor payouts backed by over 20 years of experience. If you want clarity before making any moves, book a clarity call. At freedom familyinvestments.com or text family to 66 866, text the word family to 66 866.    Keith Weinhold  35:12   Flock homes helps you retire from real estate and landlording, whether it's one problem property or your whole portfolio through a 721 exchange, deferring your capital gains tax and depreciation recapture. It's a strategy long used by the ultra wealthy. Now Mom and Pop landlords can 721 the residential real estate request your initial valuation, see if your properties qualify@flockhomes.com slash, slash GRE, that's F, l, O, C, K, homes.com/gre   Tom Wheelwright  35:50   This is Rich Dad Advisor Tom wheelwright. Listen to get rich education with Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your Daydream.   Keith Weinhold  36:02   You welcome back to get rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold its debt is the American dream on episode 600 now, just before taking the mic, about 30 minutes ago, I ate some raspberries. I looked at the package to see where they were grown Mexico. Someone in Mexico supplied them. There was a supply chain. Those raspberries were planted in rows with trellising grown, and then they need to be hand picked. They're highly perishable, and they need to be shipped a long way fast, therefore, I just simply had the exorbitant privilege of buying those raspberries from a lit refrigerated store shelf with my dollars. Well, effectively, a bank lent me those dollars. Most of my debt is real estate debt, where time, tenants and inflation service my debt for me. I mean, what an amazing world. I'm just here to control those flows, those flows of money between Mexican raspberry growers, for my property managers that manage my tenants and for the banks that provide the loan. I mean, gosh, debt really is the American dream. It made raspberries appear. This is a contrarian way of thinking, but it's calculated. It's unconventional, but it's first principles thinking, rather than emotions from grandpa. You know something I've said it before that. Hey, I'm proud that throughout my life I have never ridden the government dole. Once. Never have I done that. I've never accepted a subsidy, no covid stimulus checks. I've never accepted an unemployment check in my life, even though I could have been eligible one time. I'm proud of that, because otherwise taxpayers would have had to work for me and pay for me. But in a way, since so many of my mortgage loans are subsidized, I am riding the government dole to get 30 year mortgage money at a 7% interest rate, that's also tax deductible, so therefore maybe I'm paying 5% I mean, that's a really good deal, and the government backing makes banks want to provide lucrative loans to us, just like the FHA program that I personally began with on a fourplex, and Just like these first 10 Fannie, Mae, Freddie Mac backed investor loans that you can get for one to four unit properties. So although it's indirect, it's really like a government handout that we're getting. And what can we do when we can do our part in giving back by doing good in the world and providing good housing, not being slumlords. That's the path that we're on here and the future, it's always going to feel uncertain. Always, I'm encouraging you. You've got to plant the tree, you've got to take the leap. You've got to choose to believe that there is something worth building toward optimism is not about ignoring what's broken in the world. It's about deciding anyway to keep on going, and you're probably doing a lot right, working hard, earning, well, a little saving, but more investing. There's a problem that very few people talk about, labor income is taxed heavily, asset income is treated better, and then 401, K income, well, that doesn't even start arriving until you're about 60 or 70. And really, this is why a lot of high performing. Professionals eventually hit a wall. They make more money, but they don't feel much freer. The people who break out usually do one thing differently. They stop relying on one income source, and they start building income producing assets, and that's where I come in, you already know how to do things like budget and save. We all learned that quite a long time ago, and we've all heard the usual advice about maxing out your 41k waiting for years and just sort of hoping, and that might build a nest egg like that usually does turn into something, and it's better than nothing. It usually won't build outsized returns or freedom, though, and surely not while you're young enough to fully enjoy it. So get rich education is about a different path, building durable wealth through income, property, financial education and smarter leverage, certainly not day trading, certainly not get rich quick, just a proven framework for escaping overdependence on a paycheck, a generationally proven vehicle here and here you get the mindset and tactics to make generationally proven real estate a life changing investment because most people are Climbing the wrong mountain. A lot of smart professionals spend 30 years trying to save their way to freedom, but wealth usually grows faster when you own assets that produce income appreciate over time, offer tax advantages and can be financed with long term debt. That's how you get a lot of them. That is the difference between working hard and building leverage. So you can't out earn a broken wealth strategy.    Keith Weinhold  41:47   Most people earn income, but few people own income. You own the source of the income when you have rental property. A lot of smart professionals really learn that too late, Your salary alone doesn't even have the ability to make you wealthy, since wealth is freedom. So we use an abundance mentality to invest in assets that are scarce. Most people use a scarcity mentality, leading with loss aversion, to invest in something that's abundant and plentiful. So there is always opportunity out there in a market as big and as broad as the US residential real estate market. Where is that opportunity today? Well, I'll tell you that list prices rose 2% year over year to a median of 423k that's in the four week period that just ended according to Redfin. But notice I said that was the list price buyers haggled them down to about 389k that's really significant. It's really proof that sellers are willing to bend in today's markets. So therefore in most markets, I'm encouraging you to make an offer that's below the list price, as we know, available for sale property that is still scarce in a lot of the Northeast and Midwest, and supply is abundant in Texas and Florida. But here's the thing, although Florida inventory is higher now than it was pre pandemic over that six or seven year stretch, here's the new trend, and it's worthwhile to identify inflection points like this on a year over year basis. So looking at only the past one year, Florida inventory is now down 4% it's no longer going up. So it's possible that we've reached the peak of this new Florida supply. We could have hit the turning point now, and yet, builders are still buying down your mortgage rate to about 4% giving you that long term fixed rate on new builds. So I'm telling you, that's where the opportunity is now. As far as the rent side, nationally, I don't see rents going up significantly anytime soon, and that's for most everything, single family rentals all the way up to huge apartment buildings. Rent increases in the single family to fourplex space, they showed some real promise last spring, a year ago, but as we got into summer, they didn't really materialize. Now, although you get rent increases historically, it's never wise to buy and just assume that that is automatic. But I want to underscore the fact that you really should not count on a rent increase over the next year. So that's new builds.    Keith Weinhold  44:53   The other area ripe for opportunity. Here is burrs, buy, renovate, rent. Finance and repeat properties and among GRE listeners, burrs have been our most popular investment over the past two years. Yeah, Memphis, Little Rock, Birmingham and Kansas City, they are our hottest and most reliable burr markets, and we've really improved our burr operations since first helping you with those found the secret sauce, as far as helping you get the right provider that doesn't leave you hanging on the renovation, burrs are also good for you if you have fewer investment resources than what new build properties require. GRE coaching calls and our coaching program are completely free to help you with this now. Of course, our investment coaches listen to all the GRE episodes like you. They're aligned, and we have family guys that work here, like our investment coach Naresh. He has a wife and kids, and he's just the type of person that you want to see succeed in life and that you would enjoy working with over time. And we are all investors ourselves here, every one of us, so it doesn't hurt to set up a 30 minute consultation call to see if our GRE coaching program is right for you, some good, abundantly minded council for free. Our investment coaches have access to the best deals in real time. That alone is worth a connection. We're in constant communication with the top national providers in the best markets. So there might be an incentive today, like, say, a builder rate by down to 4% that didn't exist just two days ago or yesterday. So this is why investors are succeeding. They're also succeeding thanks to our recent Florida online live event. Connect with us to watch the replay and get in on these deals yourself. In fact, we have never seen so many incentives and price reductions in GRE history as we are right now. And see, here's the thing, when it comes to you making an offer below the list price, because our coaches work with other GRE listeners, they're going to know how low that seller is really going to go for you on that price. So that negotiation is some key information that you can learn. We have access to more than 200 deals nationwide, so contact our real estate investment coaches to get access and these burr properties can give you a super high ROI, because sometimes you can end up with as little as 10k or 20k of equity invested in an income producing single family rental. That's probably going to be 20k or more. And then with some of these developers that overbuilt in places like Florida, make that offer use good debt and take advantage of that interest rate in the fours. Buy low. And the reason that these new build deals provide positive income is because you buy at a lower purchase price overall, and you get a fixed rate in the fours, and you get a low property insurance rate, since they are new build properties, you don't need urgency right now so much as you need clarity, because there are opportunities, real ones, whether it's burrs in the Midwest or builder incentives in places like Florida, where you can Get those 4% rates. But the challenge isn't finding opportunity, it's knowing which one is right for you, and that's exactly what we help you do. And since our coaches are active investors themselves, they follow the same markets and the same providers and the same strategies that we talk about here on the show. So instead of guessing or going back and forth in emails, just get clear book, a quick call. It's free, it's 30 minutes, and it could save you months or years of going in the wrong direction. You can do that@greinvestmentcoach.com that's greinvestmentcoach.com the best thing you can do next is get aligned with the right opportunity. I'll chat with you in a week. I'm Keith Weinhold. Don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 3  49:35   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively the.   Speaker 4  50:03   The preceding program was brought to you by your home for wealth, building, get richeducation.com

Real estate lead conversion is broken for most agents right now, and the numbers prove it. 71% of Realtors reported zero sales in 2026. That is not a mindset problem. That is a structural problem, and this episode gives you the blueprint to fix it.The market went from 6.7 deals per agent available in 2000 down to 2.71 today. You are not working less. The game changed. And if you are still running the same real estate prospecting system you were using in 2021, you are competing for half the deals with double the agents while Zillow, Opendoor, and Redfin take the rest.Here is exactly what this episode covers:✅ The only 4 ways to grow your real estate income and which one most agents completely ignore✅ Why your real estate lead generation 2026 strategy needs to prioritize the cash conversion cycle above everything else✅ How a cash offer real estate strategy generates motivated seller leads that listing agents cannot touch✅ The framework for real estate lead conversion that turns more of your existing pipeline into closed deals without adding a single new lead source✅ How real estate wholesaling for agents and real estate creative finance open revenue streams most Realtors never access✅ The exact past client system we use so that when someone is ready to sell, we are the first call they make✅ Real numbers. Real deals. A verifiable address on screen.If you are serious about figuring out how to grow real estate business in a market that is actually shrinking, this is the episode. Not theory. Not motivation. A specific blueprint that produced 150 closed transactions last year when the market dropped 20%.Listen it. Take notes. Then go execute.

Real estate brokerage consolidation is happening right now and most agents have no idea what it actually means for their business.I sat down with eXp Realty CEO Leo Pareja and he broke down exactly what happened in 2025, and why he believes this is the most transformational year in real estate history. This is not speculation. These are real companies, real numbers, and real moves that are already reshaping the industry you work in every single day.Here is what we cover in this conversation:✅ Why real estate brokerage consolidation follows the exact same pattern as railroads, airlines, and oil companies, and what history tells us happens next✅ How Stone Point Capital buying Keller Williams, Corelogic, and Loan Wolf in Q1 of 2025 is part of the Keller Williams Stone Point acquisition story most agents are completely missing✅ What the compass acquiring anywhere real estate deal actually means, one company now controls nine brands including Coldwell Banker, Century 21, Sotheby's, ERA, and more✅ Why Rocket buying Redfin was the best trade of 2025 and what the real estate market shift 2025 signals for independent agents going forward✅ How to use pattern recognition in real estate to position yourself on the right side of this before the window closes✅ What the real estate consolidation opportunity looks like for agents who pay attention right now instead of waiting until 2026 to figure it outLeo has been in this industry a long time. He reads the earnings calls. He connects the dots most people ignore. If you want to understand the real estate industry consolidation 2025 story from someone who is actually inside it, this is the conversation to listen.Subscribe for more interviews with the people shaping this industry.

The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg revisit the fallout from their conversation with Andy, focusing on the rapid shift toward "coming soon" and preview listings across major portals. Zillow's move into previews—alongside Redfin and Homes.com—signals a broader industry change in how listings are marketed and distributed. The discussion centers on whether Zillow truly "changed," what this means for MLS control, and how the definition of being "on the market" is evolving. The episode also explores whether the industry can move past moral arguments and accept these changes as business decisions.  Key Takeaways Zillow's move into previews Zillow entering "coming soon" listings is framed as solving a distribution problem rather than a full strategic reversal.  Signals frustration with slow-moving MLS rules and lack of standardization. Shift from moral debate to business reality Industry discussion may move away from "consumer harm" arguments toward competitive strategy and market positioning.  All players (Zillow, Redfin, Compass) are acting in their own business interests. Fragmentation vs. consumer behavior Concern about a "streaming wars" future where buyers check multiple platforms.  In practice, buyers may already be using several apps simultaneously. Branding matters Zillow's "Previews" is positioned as a clear, consumer-friendly product.  Competing offerings are less clearly defined or branded. MLS pressure and listing input risk Portals accepting direct listing input (outside MLS) is a major long-term threat to MLS control.  Changing definition of "on market" Debate over whether "on market" means: In the MLS Under a listing agreement Visible on portals like Zillow Indicates a broader shift in how the industry conceptualizes market exposure. Impact on brokerage strategies Exclusive vs. non-exclusive distribution (e.g., Compass vs. eXp) may influence listing pitches.  Market will determine whether sellers value broader distribution or platform-specific exposure.   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website  Greg's Website    Watch us on YouTube   Our Sponsors: Cotality  Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board    Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios  

Redfin is reporting that more than half of US home listings are stale... so what can you do if your home just won't sell? Russell Faucette of The Stern Team at Omada Real Estate breaks down why more listings are sitting unsold, how buyer hesitation is shaping the market, and what sellers can do now to prepare for a successful summer listing.

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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview This episode features Andy Woolley (Homes.com) joining Rob and Greg to break down a wave of rapid industry changes driven by new agreements between Zillow, Compass, Redfin, and eXp. The conversation focuses on exclusive vs. non-exclusive listing deals, the rise of pre-marketing strategies, and the increasing fragmentation of listing distribution. Together, they examine how these shifts challenge the traditional role of the MLS as a broker cooperative, with ongoing debate about whether the industry is moving toward a more fragmented, lead-generation-driven ecosystem.  Key Takeaways New exclusive and non-exclusive listing agreements are accelerating fragmentation in listing distribution.  Debate continues over whether these moves resemble competition or anti-competitive behavior.  Pre-marketing ("coming soon") listings are a key battleground for platforms seeking inventory outside IDX feeds.  MLSs face pressure as the industry questions whether they are cooperatives or listing platforms.  Much of the conflict is centered on control of lead generation rather than access to listings.  Homes.com is pursuing brokerage feeds to capture pre-marketing listings, while Zillow is incentivizing participation through its Preview product.  Agents use pre-marketing to control pricing strategy, days on market, and demand signals.  Ongoing debate between "your listing, your lead" vs. referral-based models.  Larger platforms and brokerages with data/control advantages are positioned to benefit most.  Links Rob's webinar - The Agency-Centered MLS: A Framework for Survival MLS Reset Registration Homes.com expands early access to pre-market listings Where brokerages stand on pre-MLS listings after a whirlwind week Zillow's 'simplified' listing standars make MLS optional Andy Woolley roast video of Greg at CMLS   Connect with Rob and Greg Rob's Website  Greg's Website    Watch us on YouTube   Our Sponsors: Cotality  Notorious VIP The Giant Steps Job Board    Production and Editing Services by Sunbound Studios

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Hear how real estate investors can transition out of active landlording while staying invested in the asset class.  Keith speaks with Ari Rubin, founder of Flock Homes, about using a 721 Exchange to move from directly owned rental properties into a professionally managed partnership structure.  They discuss why exit planning is essential, how this strategy can defer taxes, reduce hands-on management, and provide diversified, passive income and appreciation potential for long-time landlords and portfolio builders alike. Resources: To see whether a 721 Exchange could work for your rentals, request a free property evaluation at flockhomes.com/gre Episode Page: GetRichEducation.com/598 For access to properties or free help with a GRE Investment Coach, start here: GREmarketplace.com GRE Free Investment Coaching: GREinvestmentcoach.com Get mortgage loans for investment property: RidgeLendingGroup.com or call 855-74-RIDGE  or e-mail: info@RidgeLendingGroup.com Invest with Freedom Family Investments.  For predictable 10-12% quarterly returns, visit FreedomFamilyInvestments.com/GRE or text  1-937-795-8989 to speak with a freedom coach Will you please leave a review for the show? I'd be grateful. Search "how to leave an Apple Podcasts review"  For advertising inquiries, visit: GetRichEducation.com/ad Best Financial Education: GetRichEducation.com Get our wealth-building newsletter free— GREletter.com  Our YouTube Channel: www.youtube.com/c/GetRichEducation Follow us on Instagram: @getricheducation Complete episode transcript:   Keith Weinhold  0:01   Welcome to GRE I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, when it's time for you to sell your rental property, there's a vehicle you may not have heard of that allows you to exchange it into a partnership. This makes it hands off for you. Defers your capital gains tax and depreciation recapture, while you still can enjoy appreciation and cash flow. It's the exit strategy that helps you retire from landlording, known as the 721 exchange today on get rich education,   Corey Coates  0:34   since 2014 the powerful get rich education podcast has created more passive income for people than nearly any other show in the world. This show teaches you how to earn strong returns from passive real estate investing in the best markets without losing your time being a flipper or landlord. Show Host Keith Weinhold writes for both Forbes and Rich Dad advisors and delivers a new show every week since 2014 there's been millions of listener downloads of 188 world nations. He has a list show guests include top selling personal finance author Robert Kiyosaki, get rich education can be heard on every podcast platform, plus it has its own dedicated Apple and Android listener phone apps build wealth on the go with the get rich education podcast, sign up now for the get rich education podcast or visit get rich education.com   Keith Weinhold  1:17   the same place where I get my own mortgage loans is where you can get yours. Ridge lending group and MLS, 42056, they provided our listeners with more loans than anyone because they specialize in income properties. They help you build a long term plan for growing your real estate empire with leverage. Start your prequel and even chat with President chailey Ridge personally, while it's on your mind, start at Ridge lending group.com, that's Ridge lending group.com,   Speaker 1  1:51   you're listening to the show that has created more financial freedom than nearly any show in the world. This is get rich education.   Keith Weinhold  2:07   Welcome to GRE I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, the voice of real estate investing since 2014 today's show should help a lot of people as you grow your real estate portfolio over time. You add to it and you multiply it. You do that by using more of your own money and more of other people's money and more of your equity from one property to buy another property. But we've all got to begin with the end in mind, today's show is about your exit strategy, how to sell your property, whether it's selling all of them or some of them, and you're doing that in both a tax efficient way and a management efficient way, because it's about how to exchange them into a partnership. Still get financial upside for appreciation and cash flow, but yet you achieve about as much passivity as what you would have with a Schwab or say, Vanguard mutual fund. Now, back when GRE began, over 11 years ago, we wouldn't have done a show like this because most new listeners were in acquisition mode learning about the GRE way, and that might still be true, but today, we've got both new listeners and longtime listeners that have engaged with GRE investment coaches and learned from listening to each weekly episode, and have built their portfolios and have turned get rich education into got rich education. Congratulations. A lot of you have now achieved financial freedom, and you're looking for an eventual exit. Now, even if you own dozens of rental properties like I do, you don't feel much management strain most of the time, because also, like I do, you outsource to property managers, but some of you self manage, and you can then achieve real relief when you exit before we bring in our expert guest and discuss The 721 exchange. Hey, you've seen me write about the Iran war in our newsletter, and you've seen me discussing it on YouTube. The short story is that war is really expensive, war is inflationary, and war in Iran could very well be setting us up for another inflationary wave like we had from 2021 to 2023 I'm probably going to talk more about it next week, if the war is still ongoing, and what it means to real estate investors. Also a lot of great episodes coming up here at GRE including the show debut. Two of Redfin chief economist Darrell fairweather PhD, who will be here with us soon as for this week, let's learn about an efficient real estate exit strategy.   Keith Weinhold  5:17   This week's guest is someone that is going to help a lot of you, so I've really anticipated having him on educated at Harvard and Stanford. He went on to become a somewhat conventional investment manager, until he was motivated by his parents experience as Chicago landlords to launch another venture in 2021 which you'll learn about today. Welcome to GRE Ari Rubin   Ari Rubin  5:42   Keith, thank you so much for having me on the show today, and to all your listeners out there. It's great to meet all of you, and thanks for listening in today.    Keith Weinhold  5:49   Yeah, Rubin is spelled r, u, B, I N, yeah, I understand you've heard from some of our listeners   Speaker 2  5:55    exactly, I actually heard about your podcast and your show from a number of our clients will go more into the problem that we're solving and the types of landlords that we work with, but some of them have been listening you to you for a long time. Some of them got motivated to get into real estate because of your show. So yeah, really excited to be here chatting with you today.   Keith Weinhold  6:17   Well, thanks so much. Basically, what you do is you help people retire from landlording, but not real estate. We'll get more into that later. But a lot of times when investors have been in the direct real estate investing game for a while, they begin to feel like they've got their dollars trapped in this real estate game. And it can be easy to argue there's no other place you'd rather have it, but tell us more about that trapped feeling with managing rental properties.   Speaker 2  6:45   Yeah, So Keith, maybe just to start out, I want to just talk about the problem that we're solving at flock. So as everyone knows, and there's a lot of resources out there, real estate is a great place, a great way to build wealth, and it's a lot of work, and it takes a lot of effort and a lot of skill and a lot of time, but we find that not enough folks think about, once you get in, how do you exit? And just for those on the show who are listening, who aren't even in real estate yet, or maybe they're just a couple of years into real estate, you always want to think about your exit, and at a certain point, once you've owned real estate for five years, 10 years, 30 years, at some point in your life, you're going to want to exit, and that's because, at the end of the day, managing and owning Real Estate takes work. You can hire a property manager, but you still have to manage even the best property manager doesn't really solve all the problems of being a landlord. For example, if you have an eviction, you still have to pay for that. If you have a massive capital improvement, roofs to replace, HVACs to do, you're still on the hook for that. Ultimately, you're liable when you own real estate, right? You could be sued. You have a feeling, and you should be responsible for your residence and for the homes. So at the end of the day, at a certain point, every single person in this world will get to the point where they're like, I'm done owning real estate. I want to retire. I want true peace of mind. But the problem with that is, when you're ready to exit, you got to sell. That's really the only way out. Maybe you're fortunate enough to have some kids who want to take over the business or the properties, but you know, if you're like a lot of clients that we work with, your kids, maybe they're on to bigger and better things. They've moved across the country. Or, you know, this generation doesn't fix things like the last one did, right? And so unless you have kids who are really, really ready to step up and be super hands on, you don't have an exit and selling, of course, triggers a huge tax liability. So when you sell real estate, you not only have to maybe kick out your tenants and stage the house and pay all the frictions and all the fees, the biggest thing is you have to pay capital gains and depreciation or capture taxes. And we'll come back into what all that means and all how that looks like. So in summary, when you sell real estate and you've owned for a long time, you could be faced with losing upwards of 30% of your equity, which is a lot of money. That's a big chunk of your nest egg, of your net worth. You also you love real estate, you've done really, really well with real estate. So at flock, we've built the retirement solution for landlords, and we'll go more into how this all works, but essentially, we help people with the most cost efficient, seamless exit strategy by exchanging their equity for shares. In our larger fund. So that's just very quickly, the problem that we're solving and some of the clients, the problem that we work with   Keith Weinhold  10:08   this is important. I'm a longtime real estate investor. I have not self managed in many years, but I basically asset manage my managers oftentimes reading their monthly statements, replying to emails about various things, but yeah, there is some day in which I probably wish to not have to do that anymore, and indeed, selling it all would incur a steep capital gains tax. Now what I've done is I've done cash out refinances and 1031 exchanges along the way to continue to defer any tax obligation that I have. But of course, when I do a 1031, exchange, I grow my portfolio, and there's more to manage,   Speaker 2  10:50   exactly. So you know, you just laid out two excellent options out there for ways to sort of consolidate, or, you could say, even better, leverage your equity in real estate. You can do a cash out refi, and that's of course, where you pull cash out of the properties so you're more liquid, or you buy more real estate, or you can do something called a 1031 exchange. And Keith, I'm sure a lot of your listeners out there know what a 1031 exchange is, but just for everyone listening in in or in case folks are less familiar, a 1031 exchange is essentially a real estate loophole. It used to apply to artwork and airplanes and a lot of other stuff. Now it's just real estate, and it's a part of the tax code that says you can sell your real estate, and if you follow this process within a certain timeframe, and then use what's called a Qualified Intermediary, you can roll those proceeds forward and buy new real estate and defer that tax liability into the future. Now the benefit to that is you just achieve tax deferral, but as you said, you still own real estate, and so for a lot of younger investors out there, a 1031 exchange is a really effective way to continue to grow their portfolio, or be more thoughtful about their approach. But for longer time real estate investors, a 1031 exchange doesn't really solve your problem. You still own real estate, you're still liable for tenants, for toilets, for trash, right? And so if you're trying to really retire from being a landlord, a 1031 exchange doesn't really do that. And of course, a cash out refi, all that does is just take on more debt and more risk and more liability. Great option if you're young and you're still trying to grow when we hear from a lot of clients, maybe not the best option in the second half of your life as you're really trying to focus on wealth preservation.   Keith Weinhold  12:51   Yes, a lot of our listeners are indeed familiar with the 1031, tax deferred exchange. You're typically trading up and deferring your tax on the way. And that trading up, it really just gets you even more into real estate investing, because with almost every 1031 exchange, you're going to own more doors than when you began the process. However, a lot of people aren't as familiar with the 721 exchange. Why are people less familiar with it? Ari   Speaker 2  13:21   great question, Keith, and you're right, less people are familiar with it. So in plain English, the 721 exchange, it's also part of the tax code. It's not a real estate loophole. It actually applies to equities or many other asset classes. And in plain English, what it says is, Keith, you own, let's say a million dollars worth of assets you can exchange. You can contribute those assets into a partnership and receive back a million dollars worth of shares or units of the partnership. And in doing so, it's a tax deferred exchange. There are some nuances that you have to be mindful of, just like in a 1031 exchange in terms of boots and cash out refis, but as a general rule, it's a lot more flexible and a lot more seamless than a 1031 exchange. And so again, Keith, you sell, you exchange, you contribute your properties into a fund or into a partnership using the 721 exchange. You now own shares of that partnership. You get all the returns and cash flow and ongoing tax benefits from owning shares in the partnership. To your question, why do less people know about the 721 exchange? It's very common in large commercial real estate, big real estate investment trusts have been using the 721 exchange for decades. The problem with it is it's really complicated to do. So these transactions are quite laborious. There's lots of paperwork. Historically, you would need an army of lawyers and accountants and tax professionals just to consummate one of these things. Surely, if you had a $500 million apartment building or office complex, you would be familiar with this. But until now, no one had really built this for the little guy. And I'm putting that in quotes, right? Because, you know, if you own 10 single family rental homes, 50 single family rental homes, even one single family rental home, you could have hundreds of 1000s of dollars, millions of dollars of equity. You're not such a little guy or gal, right? But these are the moms and pops who own the vast majority of real estate in this country. And so our idea at floc was to go out and, for lack of a better term, democratize access, to give access to this really powerful wealth preservation tool, the 721 exchange, a mechanism that's been used by ultra high net worth families and big institutional investors and big Wall Street firms for decades, and really enable it to the masses out there, To the millions and millions of hardworking Americans who have built up these properties, these portfolios, for decades.   Keith Weinhold  16:27   I've got to say I had heard of the 721 exchange quite a long time ago, but it wasn't until last year that I became more familiar with it, and more familiar with what you do, and realizing that this could help an awful lot of people. You're listening to get rich education. We're talking with flock homes founder, Ari Rubin, about the 721 exchange, how it works and how it might be able to help you more when we come back, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold,    Keith Weinhold  16:53   let me throw out a simple idea, sometimes doing nothing with your money is actually a decision. Leaving it parked. Might feel safe, but over time, purchasing power changes. So the conversation isn't about chasing returns, it's about intentionally placing money somewhere. Freedom. Family investments works in real estate people use every day, housing, senior communities, essential properties, things tied to living and not trends. Their freedom notes offering is built for accredited investors looking for structured income backed by real assets, not speculation. I am an investor with them myself. The Freedom team makes themselves available to walk through their approach, structure and operating philosophy so you can ask questions and determine alignment before moving forward, while past performance doesn't guarantee future results, their historical operating philosophy has yielded 100% investor payouts backed by over 20 years of experience. If you want clarity before making any moves. Book, a clarity call at Freedom family investments.com or text family to 66 866, text the word family to 66866   Keith Weinhold  18:15   flock homes helps you retire from real estate and landlording, whether it's one problem, property or your whole portfolio, through a 721 exchange, deferring your capital gains, tax and depreciation recapture. It's a strategy long used by the ultra wealthy. Now Mom and Pop landlords can 721 the residential real estate request your initial valuation. See if your properties qualify@flockhomes.com slash GRE. That's f, l, O, C, K, homes.com/g R, E.   Todd Drowlette  18:54   This is the star of the A and E show the real estate commission. Todd rollette. Listen to get rich education with my friend, Keith Weinhold, and don't quit your Daydream. Welcome   Keith Weinhold  19:04   back to get rich Education. I'm your host, Keith Weinhold, here on episode 598 we're talking with flock homes founder, Ari Rubin, where they help real estate investors retire from landlording, but not so much real estate with a 721, exchange is something that can be used for retiring landlords along with active landlords if they're just looking to offload one or two properties to exchange into this partnership that we've been talking about. And Ari on your website. It was interesting. I watched the video of you and a woman where you somewhat had to convince the woman to start this fund that did not have any properties in it yet, which is really interesting. And before we're done, we'll talk about. How many properties you have in the portfolio and how many investors you have, but this is something that an investor can exchange their properties into, and yet they still receive the financial upside of both cash flow and appreciation. So tell us more about that    Speaker 2  20:16   exactly. So I'll just quickly explain how it all works. And I do want to also touch on our first client ever, our first landlord ever. Surely, everyone has their story of how they got started in real estate. But you know, for us, at the end of the day, it's a people business. You know, our clients are the millions and millions of mom and pop landlords out there. Shirley was a single mom, Navy vet physician, had this home that she used to live in. She knew she should be building wealth through real estate, so she held on to the property. It was the middle of covid. She had a long term tenant. The tenant moved out, and she didn't know what to do, and she got mailers every single day on, you know, oh, we'll buy ugly houses and we'll buy this thing, but she didn't want to sell because she knew she didn't want to sell. She wasn't a distressed seller, right? And when she sold, of course, she would be triggering taxes, and she knew real estate was a great asset class to be in, and she didn't want to give up all of that upside. So Shirley was our first client, and she still is with us today, very near and dear to our hearts. And yeah, you should check out the video online. It's an amazing story, and we have many, many stories like that, of families that we've worked with. So Keith, to your question of how it all works, exactly. So Keith or Shirley or Mom and Pop will sell their property. They'll exchange their property for the equivalent value of shares in our fund. So let's say it's a $300,000 house and there's no mortgage on it. We do take properties with a little bit of debt, but let's just say, for easy numbers, you sell the property and you now have $300,000 worth of shares in our fund. So first and foremost, you're no longer responsible or liable for the property. You don't own it anymore. You don't manage it anymore. The tenants, of course, the residents get to stay in the home. It is now one rental property of the many inside of our portfolio that the flock team manages. We collect the rent, we do all the renovations, we hold back for expenses, right? And you are now a fully passive shareholder in this larger partnership. So what does that mean for you? First and foremost, you did not trigger taxes on day one. You get to defer those taxes, just like you would in a 1031, exchange. And of course, you can hold on to it, pass it on to your heirs, who still get the step up in basis. Great. In addition to that, what does this mean that you own shares in this real estate? Well, you're going to get all the returns from the real estate just like you would with your own real estate. So what are the two things that drive returns? The first thing is your paper gains, right? Your equity appreciation. The market goes up in value. Our properties go up in value. You receive appreciation to your equity, to your account. By the way, sometimes markets go down in value. Real Estate doesn't just go up, right? And of course, as that happens as well, your equity account will go down as well. But we believe that over the long term, and if you look back at historical kind of performance of the real estate market, we really believe in single family as an asset class. So that's the first thing that drives your returns. It's the appreciation of the properties. And then, of course, the second thing is the net income. It's the rents that we collect from the properties, less the expenses, property tax, insurance, right, maintenance, vacancy, reserves, all of the regular expenses that you have. We also have, as a large institutional real estate owner, and so those two things together, one, the appreciation, as well as two, the net income drive your total returns from the flock vehicle. You could take cash flow from your investment just like you would from your real estate. We pay that out quarterly. It's never been late. We've been operating since 2021 you know, we have a lot of clients who leave their cash flow in to reinvest it and kind of increase their basis. We have a lot of clients who live on their cash flow like they would Social Security or a pension or something like that, just like they did in their real estate portfolio.   Keith Weinhold  24:44   Now, people sometimes get sentimental about their own home, less sentimental about the rental properties, but if you have any attachment to it, effectively, when you exchange it into this fund, you're still helping get some return from your own. Own properties that you contributed into the fund there, but you're going to be more diversified effectively nationally with the real estate market then   Speaker 2  25:08    exactly. And Keith, you bring up a really great point, which is a lot of our clients and a lot of real estate investors, they're sentimental about their real estate investments, like these are houses that they used to live in, or they built, or they've had the same residents in place for 515, 25, years. I mean, we've literally seen people who have had the same residents in place for a very, very long time, and they have that sentimental attachment. And our clients see one of the benefits to joining flock is they're joining together with other like minded owners to leverage the benefits of scale. They still own that house, but they own it with a bunch of other you know, we now have 1100 homes. We'll soon hit 1500 homes, right? They have some connection to that house, but they're much larger, which means better margins. They're much more diversified. So if, God forbid, something happens that one individual property, their risk is spread out. And of course, you know, they're more passive. They're no longer liable, so on and so forth. So a lot of people really like flock because of that sort of sentimental attachment they have to their real estate. By the way, we also have a lot of people who bought their turnkey providers, or they're just, you know, a business guy or a business gal, and they don't care at all, and they're just like, I don't even know the addresses on these things. Just take this and move on. So we've met and interacted with lots of different types of landlords over the years,   Keith Weinhold  26:43   I'm a turnkey real estate investor. I have not seen most of my properties in person, so there's certainly no sentimental attachment to them. But let's talk more about how it practically works and feels for that investor that say they want to sell three rental, single family homes that total $1 million in value, whether that's their entire portfolio or those three properties are just part of it, would flack do an inspection and then handle the renovations and make an offer   Ari Rubin  27:12   exactly so before I walk you through the process, I want to also just lay out what our incentives Are. We're very different than most real estate buyers. We're not trying to flip houses. We're not a flipper. That's not our business model. That's not how we make money. Our goal is not to buy your houses. You know, in the example, you said three houses worth about a million dollars. Our goal is not to buy them for 900 and flip them and make a quick buck, right? Our goal is to solve this problem for you, to bring you into flock as a client, to of course, then provide you with good financial returns, which means providing the resident with good service, bringing the home up to our standards, hardening the asset and making sure it's a great place to live, and it performs as underwritten. And so what all that means is upfront, we'll give you an initial valuation based on public data, other proprietary data that we have. We'll ask you a couple of questions about the house, and then before we close, we do inspect the property, and after the inspection, our final valuation will either go down in value, if not everything was represented, as you said, or it'll go up in value after inspection, our goal is 50% of the time to increase the value. Okay, which in real estate is kind of a weird concept, because which buyer wants to pay more money? Well, our goal is not to buy low from you, it's to create a fair system for all the clients that have put their properties into flock, right? So we'll then come up with a final valuation. Let's just say, like in your example, a million dollars for those three properties. We then sign what's called a contribution agreement. And by the way, during that period, you're doing due diligence on us. You're getting to know our team. You know people are entrusting us with a lot of money, their real estate, that they've worked, that they know. They know these residents, they know the every corner of that house. So we need to due diligence your real estate, you need to due diligence us, our team, our processes, our systems, our track record, the types of homes that we own. We'll show you every home that we own. We'll walk you through our financials. We get audit. We use a third party fund administrator. We get audited by KPMG every year to make sure our valuations, we use best in class service providers. You'll go through all this information. We do the same. That process typically takes about three to six weeks, and then you come to a decision, Hey, I like flock. I want to move forward. We come to a decision. We like that home. We want to bring it into our fund. It meets our threshold. It's going to be a good investment for all of our investors, all of our clients, in flock. And then we would move forward together that whole process about four to six weeks, and then closing takes about 15 days or so.   Keith Weinhold  30:17   Okay, yeah, it's really important that you offer that renovation and that you take care of that there, I was relieved when I found that out, because really, that's the problem that you're looking to solve to get landlords out of that entire process. And they sure don't want to have to manage another wave of that during their exchange into the fund, and yeah, they want it to be hands off and mostly passive, and therefore have their homes in their flock fund be just about as passive as managing a mutual fund would   Ari Rubin  30:47   be exactly. And that's how we want our clients to think about it. You know, we've seen some folks try to do the renovations on their own. You can do it. We never recommend it, and oftentimes it's more work and more hassle than it's really worth another big thing is, if there's a resident in place, number one for you, kicking out a resident is not a nice thing to do. It's also a drag on your financials. That's several months of no income, right? That you could be earning income, whether it's through flock or elsewhere, and you have expenses, you have insurance, your property taxes during that period. So yeah, we'll take on the whole renovation if required. It's worth adding, by the way, we don't take every property we walk away from, way more properties than we accept. Yeah, you have the buy box. We have a Buy Box, which I'll tell you guys more about. But in addition to having a Buy Box, if a property requires extensive foundation issues or extensive renovations. That's beyond our scope, really, if there's a lot of uncertainty in it, we don't want to be subjecting all of our existing clients to that risk. You know, our view is we never compromise on price, on quality, on risk, and so we don't touch, you know, really messy, really hairy stuff, but we aren't afraid of, you know, rolling up our sleeves, and we'll typically do renovations up to 30% of the value of the home. So we do do a lot of value add work. Some of that is on day one. If it's health and safety and the resident needs certain things, we'll do that on day one. Other things are more value add once the resident decides to leave at some point in the future.   Keith Weinhold  32:23   Well, I'm so glad you brought up earlier about taking care of the tenant, because one of our core missions here at GRE is to do good in the world, provide housing that's clean, safe, affordable and functional. So when it comes to the ongoing property management, I imagine that plays into your Buy Box, where you're only going to have property managers in so many markets, exactly.   Speaker 2  32:45   So we're in about 20 markets around the country. It's kind of a combination of higher yielding markets. These are more like Midwestern markets, Ohio, Michigan, where Memphis, where Baton Rouge. We're also in what I would call more like growth markets, certain markets in Texas where you see really strong net migration right yields are a little bit lower there Denver is similarly as a market where you see a little bit lower yields, but still really positive job growth and economic tailwinds to those markets. We're in about 20 markets. We're open to opening new markets if there's a right kind of partnership and a right strategic portfolio or acquisition or client there. But yeah, we don't take every home, you know. We don't do short term rentals. We really just focus on our bread and butter. What we know how to do, which is one to four unit long term rental properties.    Keith Weinhold  33:39   Well, tell us more about that Buy Box.   Ari Rubin  33:43   So typically, again, we're in about 20 markets or so, also looking to expand. We take single family homes, duplexes, triplexes and fourplexes. We'll look at some condos, but as you know, some HOAs are a little bit too restrictive, and so we just try to stay away from that uncertainty, and then we have a certain yield profile and sort of price range that we're looking to hit. So in every market that differs, in Denver, we wouldn't take over. I think it's a $650,000 home, because once you start getting into the higher which in Denver is actually the median home price is a lot higher in Denver than the national average. Right? In other markets, our average price point, we're in Raleigh and around Raleigh, our average price point in Raleigh is much lower than that. So I'd say on average, our average price point per unit or per door is about $220,000 but yeah, one to four units, we unfortunately don't take pools. Yeah, we don't take properties with pools because of some insurance risks, although we have worked with some owners to bury pools, and it needs to be in a market, just lastly, where we can price it. So if it's a, you know, we're in Denver. That was where we started the business. That's where our headquarters is. You know, if there's a property an hour and two. 20 minutes outside of Denver, kind of in the middle of nowhere on four acres with it's just hard to price that. And so even if we can operate it, we need to make sure we can price it both upfront and then on an ongoing basis. So that's a little bit more about our Buy Box. But if you want to learn more, if you have a larger portfolio, of course, reach out to us. Well, you probably mentioned this, Keith, but it's flatcombs.com/gre, and we'll take a look at your property or your portfolio.   Keith Weinhold  35:29   This can help you retire from landlording, but not real estate. Make it completely hands off for you, but still get financial upside in the form of cash flow and appreciation while getting that tax deferral. And you can effectively make this tax free if these shares are inherited by your heirs with that step up in basis. And you can avoid the capital gains tax, which is typically 15 to 20% depending on your income. And if you have a high income, there's a net investment income tax of 3.8% on top of that, you also had the depreciation recapture to repay if you just sell your property out on the open market, but a 721 exchange prevents you from having to pay for any of that. So you're really solving a terrific problem for people here, Ari and just a great exit strategy for those that want to retire from real estate investing or maybe just sell a smaller portion some problem properties. You have any last thoughts overall about the 721 exchange and how you're helping people with their exit strategy?   Ari Rubin  36:36   Ari, this is like the best kept secret in real estate at the 721 exchange, we're now expanding it to multifamily. Eventually, we want to be doing this for every real estate asset class. I've heard of folks doing this for self storage. One day, we want to do this for gas stations, for small hotels. And really do this across all real estate asset classes. We think the one to four unit space is the most exciting, by far, the largest opportunity, and also the biggest opportunity to really create value for communities and for residents, which is something we're really, really passionate about. And so yeah, I would love to hear from you all. And Keith, thanks again for having me on today. This has been a great show, and I'm a big fan of your listeners and everything you guys are doing here.   Keith Weinhold  37:21   Any savvy investor has to begin with, the end in mind, Ari had a convenient landing page put up to welcome a GRE, listeners again at flockhomes.com/gre this has been valuable, Ari. It's been great having you here.    Ari Rubin  37:36   Keith. Thank you so much. You   Keith Weinhold  37:44   Oh, this has been really informative from Ari Rubin today on an efficient exit strategy that a lot of real estate investors don't know much about, retiring from landlording and yet not retiring from real estate, you're staying in the game, and yet, what you're doing is trading away active management in order to get passive ownership. And it makes sense that they make it hands off and kind of a turnkey exit experience for you. They're not using that term, but I am. If you're looking to retire, you sure don't want to be the one that has to first jump more hurdles at the end and handle an inspection punch list and coordinate with contractors, so they're helping a lot of people, and they seem to be on a good trajectory for success. You know, really, as you're still building your portfolio while you're still in acquisition mode, it's kind of comforting to know that this is out there is an option. It kind of motivates you to want to build your portfolio more now that you know about other options at the end, even if a 721, exchange, time is decades away for you, I don't know if you caught that, they have 1100 homes in their portfolio. Now, as you see over on that landing page that I mentioned, they even simplify your tax filing. You just receive one consolidated annual tax packet prepared by KPMG. If you think it's interesting to you or you just want to learn more about the 721 exchange or get a free evaluation, you can do that again by starting@flockhomes.com slash GRE that's F, l, O, C, K, homes.com/g R, E, until next week, I'm your host. Keith Weinhold, don't quit your Daydream.   Speaker 3  39:39   Nothing on this show should be considered specific, personal or professional advice. Please consult an appropriate tax, legal, real estate, financial or business professional for individualized advice. Opinions of guests are their own. Information is not guaranteed. All investment strategies have the potential for profit or loss. The host is operating on behalf of get rich Education LLC, exclusively.   Keith Weinhold  39:58   The preceding program was brought to you by y  

Mike discusses the recent controversy in the real estate industry regarding private exclusives, a practice where some listings are not immediately put into the local MLS system. This is often used by high-profile individuals or those in sensitive situations like divorce, but Mike points out that it's a small minority. They question the logic of partnering with portals like Zillow and Redfin, as it undermine the privacy aspect of private exclusives. Mike suggests that the real estate organizations may be trying to gain power and control, and encourages agents to focus on expanding their contacts and providing maximum exposure for their listings through the local MLS system.

Tim Conway Jr Show Hour 3 (3.20) Former KFI producer guy turned realtor extraordinaire Jason Insalaco is in studio to talk all things real estate — and it’s good news for buyers as prices drop! Albeit just a little bit. Redfin, Realtor.com or Zillow — which real estate platform is the most accurate in terms of pricing estimates? What are the hottest zip codes in California when it comes to real estate? Tim’s pick is Montrose. Is it a SoCal-specific thing that people are happy to share how much they pay for their home purchase? What are some upcoming areas to purchase a home? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's the first day of Spring! Meanwhile, Joey's falling hard for his new credit card perks. Nancy showed up for the company outdoor basketball tournament picnic and they were packing up early. HOT TEA: The new season of "The Bachelorette" is cancelled... Dolly congratulated the Sevier County Girl's Basketball team on winning their state championship...Guinness Records has awarded the guy with the most teeth of any other human on earth. Nancy's son, Ben, got his cast off and it was nasty. Lawmakers have purchased a waterfall after it was listed on Redfin. We play Lucky 7 and give away Dollywood tickets! Joey accidentally stepped on some baby rabbits and feels bad. The bill in Florida to ban first-cousin marriage has failed. Have you seen the 10 pound chocolate bunny that you have to hit with a hammer to break apart? WHAT WE LEARNED!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The listing wars just hit a new level. Zillow rolled out Zillow Preview, teaming up with major brokerages including Keller Williams, RE/MAX, HomeServices of America, Side, and United Real Estate to push pre-market listings into public view on Zillow and Trulia, while insisting the product will operate alongside its Listing Access Standards. Then eXp answered with its own pre-marketing syndication deal across Realtor.com, Homes.com, and ComeHome.com. This week, we break down what this means for agents, sellers, portals, transparency, private inventory, and the future of listing distribution. We're also digging into why more sellers are testing the market before going fully live, and whether this "pre-market" phase could actually increase supply or just create a new battlefield in the portal wars. Redfin says giving sellers room to test pricing and demand before full launch could boost inventory by 6% to 12% in some markets, while industry leaders are already warning this latest Zillow move should be a serious pulse check for the business. On top of that, we tackle one of the week's most uncomfortable stories for the industry: a Florida seller reportedly used ChatGPT, a flat-fee MLS, and an attorney to sell a home without a listing agent and close in just five days. We'll talk about what that does and does not mean for real estate agents, and where human value still matters when consumers start experimenting with AI-driven transactions. Then we zoom out to the broader market: NAR's response to new executive orders aimed at housing affordability and mortgage lending, a hotter inflation backdrop pushing expectations for the next Fed cut further out, refinance demand getting crushed as rates jump, pending home sales rising 1.8% in February, and fresh signs that geopolitical uncertainty is starting to mess with consumer confidence around major purchases like homes and cars. If you want real talk on Zillow Preview, pre-market listings, private inventory, mortgage rates, housing affordability, Fed policy, pending home sales, AI in real estate, and what it all means for agents, buyers, and sellers, this is the episode for you. Join us live every Wednesday, 12 PM CST!

Send a textThe real estate landscape is shifting dramatically with a new alliance between Compass, Redfin, and Rocket Mortgage. This episode uncovers the emerging "shadow MLS" that could redefine how homes are bought and sold. I will explore how this partnership bypasses traditional channels, creating a private ecosystem where control trumps transparency. Discover the controversial tactics at play, such as private listings and rerouted buyer inquiries, designed to maximize profits for a select few. I delve into the legal and ethical challenges, including potential fiduciary violations and fair housing concerns. As these private networks grow, they threaten the transparency and fairness that have long governed the industry. Will regulators intervene? Can traditional MLS rules withstand this challenge? Tune in to understand the stakes and prepare for the future of real estate.Don't forget to like us and share us!Gary* Gary serves on the South Carolina Real Estate Commission as a Commissioner. The opinions expressed herein are his opinions and are not necessarily the opinions of the SC Real Estate Commission. This podcast is not to be considered legal advice. Please consult an attorney in your area.

Atlanta leads the nation in canceled home purchase agreements, and the financial consequences for buyers are significant. Jeff Emalaba, founder and CEO of InvestFusion, joins Host Carol Morgan on the Atlanta Real Estate Forum Radio podcast to explain how InvestFusion centralizes risk indicators into one platform, giving buyers a clearer understanding of whether a property aligns with their financial goals. The Real Cost of Hidden Property Defects in Today's Real Estate Market Emalaba founded InvestFusion after a personal loss on a duplex purchase in North Carolina. The property appeared financially sound, and the projected cash flow worked on paper. However, after committing nonrefundable due diligence fees, earnest money, appraisal costs and inspection expenses, significant undisclosed foundation issues surfaced. “That's when I realized that the biggest risk in real estate is not the market,” said Emalaba. “It's buyers going into contract blindly without realizing what is hidden beyond the surface.” Why Atlanta Ranks Among the Top Cities for Canceled Home Purchase Agreements According to a recent report from Redfin, more than 40,000 U.S. home purchase agreements were canceled in December — the highest level since 2017. That accounts for 16.3% of contracts nationwide. Atlanta's share of that activity is particularly notable. “Atlanta represents 22.5% of that ballpark number,” said Emalaba. “If we trickle down to Atlanta, that's more than $900 million in the metro area alone lost annually by buyers going under contract blindly.” These cancellations are not primarily driven by “cold feet” or fluctuating interest rates. Instead, many buyers uncover substantial issues during inspection that fundamentally alter the financial viability of the deal. In a market where buyers have more options and more leverage than in recent years, walking away has become more common. Top Real Estate Inspection Red Flags That Cause Deals to Fall Apart One of the key reasons contracts collapse in Atlanta's real estate market is the discovery of major property defects during the inspection period. Here are some red flags to look for: Structural and foundation problems Roofing HVAC Plumbing and electrical failures Permitting and code violations Flooding and drainage issues Title or boundary disputes Hazardous materials such as mold, asbestos or lead-based paint. “These are major things you don't see in drive-bys or by MLS photos,” said Emalaba. “You only discover this after going on inspection.” Many of these issues can cost tens of thousands of dollars to repair. When buyers realize the true scope of deferred maintenance or legal complications, the numbers often no longer make financial sense. As a result, they exit during due diligence — forfeiting time and, in some cases, money. Appraisal Gaps, Overstated Square Footage & Data Accuracy Risks While appraisal gaps dominated headlines during the pandemic-era bidding wars, today's risk profile has shifted. The issue is less about buyers offering above appraised value and more about inaccurate or incomplete data. Overstated square footage, outdated valuations and discrepancies between listing information and appraisal reports can cause lenders to reconsider financing. When the appraised value does not align with the contract price — or when square footage is misrepresented — deals often stall or collapse. Buyers must now evaluate whether a property's valuation truly supports long-term equity growth. Rising Home Insurance Costs Are Reshaping Atlanta Buying Decisions Insurance premiums have risen significantly since 2021, adding another layer of complexity to real estate transactions. Unexpected flood zone designations, prior insurance claims or property condition issues can dramatically increase monthly expenses. Emalaba said, “Nearly half of buyers now see that insurance costs heavily influence their purchase decisions.” When insurance is combined with property taxes, maintenance and financing, the total holding cost can quickly erode projected returns. Buyers are no longer asking only whether they can afford the mortgage payment. They are evaluating whether they can afford to hold the property long term. How InvestFusion Uses AI to Analyze Real Estate Risk Before You Sign a Contract Traditional due diligence is fragmented, requiring buyers to gather inspection reports, appraisals, title documents and insurance information from multiple sources — typically after funds have already been committed. InvestFusion consolidates that analysis into a single AI-powered platform. Emalaba said, “At a bare minimum, buyers are losing at least $7,000 or $8,000 when they go into those deals.” The platform analyzes more than 400 data points and generates a deal score in under a minute. It flags structural risks, zoning issues, flood exposure, valuation discrepancies and other material concerns before buyers put down nonrefundable funds. Before signing a contract, buyers should evaluate three primary factors: property condition risk, true valuation compared to the listing price and long-term holding costs. Keeping these considerations in mind helps ensure a property is not overpriced and that buyers fully understand insurance, tax and maintenance expenses. Tune in to the full episode to hear how InvestFusion brings greater transparency to residential real estate transactions. Visit www.InvestFusion.co to learn how the platform helps Atlanta buyers analyze property condition, true valuation and long-term risk before signing a contract. About InvestFusion InvestFusion is an AI-powered real estate intelligence platform designed to help buyers and investors identify risk before committing capital to a property. The platform combines property-level data, market analytics and predictive modeling to quantify potential exposure, uncover red flags and support more informed decision-making in complex housing markets. Designed for both new and experienced investors, InvestFusion aims to shift real estate evaluation away from fragmented, manual research toward structured, data-backed insight. 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The Industry Relations Podcast is now available on your favorite podcast player! Overview Rob and Greg discuss the implications of a new deal between Compass and Redfin that allows Compass listings to appear on Redfin without traditional listing metrics like days on market or price change history. The conversation explores how this partnership could reshape the competitive landscape among major real estate portals and accelerate the normalization of private or exclusive listings. They also debate whether private listings harm transparency or fairness in the housing market, including a heated discussion around claims that such practices impact fair housing. The episode also examines how shifting alliances between portals like Zillow, Redfin, and Homes.com could affect MLSs and industry norms. Toward the end, the conversation broadens to macro trends including AI's potential impact on white-collar jobs, the future of real estate search, and how economic disruption could influence housing markets in the coming years.  Key Takeaways Compass and Redfin reached a deal allowing Compass listings to appear on Redfin without showing days on market or price change history.  The move represents a major shift in portal alliances, potentially weakening the previous alignment between Zillow and Redfin.  Private listings may become more normalized as brokers and MLSs respond to changing portal strategies.  Rob argues that fair housing concerns around private listings are often overstated and distract from the real business debate.  Greg suggests the practical impact may be limited if most listings ultimately still end up on MLS systems.  Future home search may shift from portals to AI assistants that aggregate listings across multiple sources.  The hosts discuss the broader economic implications of AI potentially replacing large numbers of white-collar jobs and how that could affect housing demand.   Links Concerns Over Harmful Private Listing Networks Explained by NAEBA (The National Association of Exclusive Buyer Agents) Robert Reffkin dreams of lobsters

Send a textOn this episode of The MLO Project with Frazier & Michael McAllister...Compass pulled 500,000 listings from Zillow overnight. Redfin gets the inventory. Rocket gets the mortgage. And most loan officers are still asleep. Frazier and Michael break down the Compass, Redfin, and Rocket trifecta, what it actually means for your pipeline, and why the loan officers who have been building real relationships are going to be fine while everyone else scrambles.In This Episode:What the Compass and Redfin exclusive listing deal actually meansWhy Rocket doesn't need Redfin to be profitableThe real threat to your pipeline that nobody is talking aboutWhy your database is the only moat you have leftWhat separates the loan officers who will thrive from the ones who won'tResources Mentioned:Empower LO: https://empowerlo.comDIFRNT Coaching Community: https://difrntcoach.com/winBroker Toolkit: https://brokertoolkit.app/Connect With Us:themloproject@empowerlo.comLeave us a review and let us know what topics you want us to cover next.

A new nationwide class action lawsuit is accusing Rocket Companies of illegally steering homebuyers toward its mortgage and closing products — even when better rates may have been available elsewhere. The lawsuit alleges Rocket and its affiliates pressured real estate agents, including those at Redfin, to funnel clients to Rocket Mortgage and its title company, potentially violating the Real Estate Settlement Procedures Act, or RESPA. Rocket denies the allegations and says it will vigorously defend itself. In this episode, Kathy Fettke breaks down what the lawsuit claims, how the alleged referral arrangements worked, why the case references a prior Consumer Financial Protection Bureau investigation, and what this could mean for mortgage competition, agent referrals, and consumer choice going forward. Want to learn more? Visit www.Newsforinvestors.com  Source: https://www.scotsmanguide.com/news/class-action-lawsuit-accuses-rocket-of-illegal-steering-scheme/

Is the Trump administration speaking loudly but carrying a white flag? I break down why conservatives are suffering all the political liabilities of the current presidency while reaping none of the policy benefits. From the failure to codify executive orders to the endorsement of Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) and failure to follow through on fighting sanctuary cities and rioters, we analyze why fake executive orders and threats are worse than doing nothing. I also dive deep into the real data behind the U.S. housing market. Contrary to the "supply shortage" narrative, Redfin data shows a record 47% more home sellers than buyers in December. I explain why high interest rates and inflationary spending — not a lack of homes — are crushing affordability and why the administration might secretly want to keep prices high. Plus, a look at the AI data center" crisis threatening the U.S. power grid at a time when the grid is teetering due to a very cold winter.   Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices