Podcasts about Chief revenue officer

This is episode 823. Read the complete transcription on the Sales Game Changers Podcast website. The Sales Game Changers Podcast was recognized by YesWare as the top sales podcast. Read the announcement here. FeedSpot named the Sales Game Changers Podcast at a top 20 Sales Podcast and top 8 Sales Leadership Podcast! Subscribe to the Sales Game Changers Podcast now on Apple Podcasts! Purchase Fred Diamond's best-sellers Love, Hope, Lyme: What Family Members, Partners, and Friends Who Love a Chronic Lyme Survivor Need to Know and Insights for Sales Game Changers now! On today's show, we interviewed Kelli Furrer, Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Revenue Officer at Slingshot Aerospace. Find Louise on LinkedIn.  KELLI'S TIP: "In complex markets, if you win the narrative early, you win the contract later. Marketing doesn't close the deal, but it shapes the conditions for it long before the opportunity appears."

Clay Harris, Deputy AD and Chief Revenue Officer for LSU Athletics, joins Chris Blair to preview the "Death Valley Live" concert series, coming to Tiger Stadium this spring. DVL will kick off with multi-platinum artist and Grammy award-winning singer-songwriter Zach Bryan on Saturday, March 28, and will continue with nine-time diamond-certified global superstar Post Malone and three-time GRAMMY award-winning entertainer Jelly Roll on Saturday, May 23.

On this episode of Destination on the Left, Joshua Harrell, Chief Revenue Officer at WorldVia, joins me to discuss the evolution of travel advisors in the United States in a post-pandemic world. Joshua shares his insights on how content creation can help travel advisors build their businesses, and he offers some fantastic practical tips for sharing great content with your audience. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How Joshua transitioned from a background in marketing and entrepreneurship into the travel advisor industry How the travel advisor profession has evolved to provide personalized value for travelers What content creation means for travel advisors and how becoming a content creator at any level can help build an audience and demonstrate expertise How Joshua encourages travel advisors to overcome the fear of content creation with his mantra: "get going, get smart, then get good" Why he advises advisors to align their business with personal passion and interests How collaboration between travel advisors and supplier partners leads to mutual business growth Marketing systems and foundational strategies Joshua recommends to help advisors streamline their marketing The Modern Travel Advisor Once upon a time, the idea of a travel agency conjured images of mall storefronts and swivel chairs. But today's travel advisor is a totally different breed, part consultant, part marketer, and 100% expert. Pre-2020, many Americans believed DIY online booking made travel advisors obsolete. But it was really the post-pandemic world that revealed just how valuable a travel professional can be. Whether unraveling complex travel restrictions or finding that off-the-beaten-path experience, advisors offer insider knowledge and advocacy that algorithms simply cannot replicate. Building Authority and Community Successful advisors aren't just travel experts; they're also storytellers, educators, and digital community builders, whether they do it by sending curated newsletters, going live on platforms like TikTok and YouTube, or sharing firsthand travel experiences on social channels. Don't be fooled into thinking only "influencers" can play the content game. Most successful travel advisors are content creators at some level. The key is helping potential clients see not just what you know, but how you think, your personality, experience, and specializations shining through. Start where you're comfortable, learn as you go, and trust that consistency breeds improvement and audience growth. The perfect lighting or equipment can wait. What matters is showing up and sharing your expertise. The Secret Sauce for Sustainable Growth The real magic happens in collaboration. Joshua backs this up with real stories, discussing the power of reaching out to suppliers, account managers, and fellow advisors. Whether joining mastermind calls, exploring new product lines, or simply sharing best practices, these partnerships unlock opportunities you might never have considered. He shares an example of an advisor who built a thriving business creating group trips for botanical societies, all sparked by a single phone conversation with a tour operator's representative. Resources: Website: https://worldviatravelnetwork.com/ LinkedIn Personal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuaharrell/ LinkedIn Business: https://www.linkedin.com/company/worldvia/ We value your thoughts and feedback and would love to hear from you. Leave us a review on your favorite streaming platform to let us know what you want to hear more o​f. Here is a quick tutorial on how to leave us a rating and review on iTunes!

Matt Bramson, Chief Revenue Officer at Spearfish, spoke with Doug Green, Publisher of Technology Reseller News, during the Enterprise Connect conference about how AI is transforming workforce intelligence and performance management in the contact center. Bramson explained that Spearfish focuses on helping organizations better understand and support their frontline customer service teams by analyzing real conversations between agents and customers. Using AI-driven insights, the platform identifies coaching opportunities, highlights best practices, and provides managers with actionable data that can improve both agent performance and customer experience. A key theme of the discussion was the importance of turning conversational data into practical intelligence. “Every interaction between an agent and a customer contains insights that can help improve performance,” Bramson said. By analyzing those interactions at scale, organizations can identify patterns that help supervisors coach agents more effectively and optimize service operations. Bramson also emphasized that many organizations struggle with the complexity of managing large contact center teams while maintaining consistent service quality. AI-powered analytics can surface key moments in conversations, helping managers focus on the interactions that matter most rather than manually reviewing thousands of calls. As enterprise communications leaders gathered at Enterprise Connect to explore the future of AI in collaboration and customer engagement, Spearfish highlighted how conversation intelligence can help organizations improve agent effectiveness, strengthen customer relationships, and create more data-driven contact center operations. Learn more about Spearfish: https://spearfish.ai/

In today's episode sponsored by K1x, the accounting sector faces a critical inflection point as a deficit of 300,000 professionals intersects with escalating regulatory complexity and a doubling of alternative investment data. Ken Powell, Chief Revenue Officer at K1x, examines how sophisticated tax technology is facilitating a transition from experimental pilot programs to the institutional deployment of automated workflows that neutralize the limitations of manual compliance. The discussion outlines a strategic framework for implementing straight-through processing to extract intricate, non-standardized data from supplemental disclosures, effectively compressing a week of manual labor into several hours. Want to share your AI adoption story with executive peers? Click go.emerj.com/expert for more information and to be a potential future guest on the 'AI in Business' podcast!

When the relationship between a CRO and CEO breaks down, the symptoms show up quickly in the forecast, the sales plan, and ultimately the boardroom. Strong revenue organizations avoid that trap by anchoring leadership decisions in shared data, realistic planning, and constant communication. In this replay episode, John Kaplan and John McMahon sit down with former CRO and private equity operating partner Bob Ranaldi to break down what effective CRO leadership looks like from both the operator and investor perspective. The conversation explores how CRO-CEO alignment shapes company performance, why sales efficiency has become a defining metric in private equity environments, and why revenue leaders must take ownership of the forecast from day one. Bob Ranaldi is a former Chief Revenue Officer and current operating partner in private equity, where he works with portfolio companies to improve sales performance, leadership alignment, and revenue growth. He brings experience as both an operator and investor, giving him a unique perspective on what boards and CEOs expect from revenue leaders. Connect with Bob: LinkedIn Resources mentioned: The Qualified Sales Leader by John McMahon Get the Force Management framework for building predictable revenue and aligning leadership teams around the metrics that matter:  The Predictable Revenue Framework: Guide for Leaders Key takeaways from this episode:  00:00 – What strong CRO–CEO alignment actually requires and why frequent communication grounded in shared goals and hard data determines whether the partnership works. 04:30 – Why unrealistic revenue targets quietly create hiring mistakes, missed forecasts, and morale problems long before leadership realizes it. 12:00 – Why looking at a single quarter of metrics can mislead leadership teams and how five-quarter trends reveal the real health of the business. 24:20 – Bob Ranaldi's simple test for whether a CRO is operating with an owner mindset or just protecting their department. 31:00 – What new CROs often get wrong in their first 90 days and why early wins matter more than sweeping changes. 40:00 – A look inside the three groups every CRO inherits in a sales organization and how early wins turn the middle group into champions. 54:00 – What the best CEOs do differently when building leadership teams and why great leaders hire people they can learn from. Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

The Leadership Problem Behind Most Sales Problems In this episode of Sales & Cigars, Walter Crosby sits down with Paul Fuller, Chief Revenue Officer of Membrain, for a deep conversation about sales leadership—and why most sales problems aren't really sales problems. Paul shares insights from decades of experience building and scaling sales organizations, including the early lessons he learned running a sales-as-a-service business during the 2007–2008 financial crisis. What became clear very quickly: scripts, systems, and tactics weren't the real issues. The real challenge was people—leadership, discipline, accountability, and trust. The conversation explores how trust drives decision-making, why leaders must develop people before processes, and how difficult conversations with founders, sales managers, and reps are often the key to unlocking growth. If you're leading a sales team—or trying to build one that scales—this episode is packed with practical leadership wisdom.   Episode Highlights Why trust is at an all-time low in institutions—and how that impacts B2B sales The difference between acquiring information and developing true understanding Why Paul believes sales organizations should function like personal development academies Lessons learned building a sales-as-a-service company during the financial crisis The hard truth about founder-led sales teams and scaling revenue Why accountability conversations are essential—but often mishandled The leadership shift required when great sales reps become sales managers How structured planning and agreements make accountability easier Why scalable sales organizations rely on coaching and process, not just talent   Key Themes & Takeaways Trust accelerates business. When trust is present, decisions happen faster and organizations move forward with confidence. Sales problems often start with leadership. Systems and scripts can only go so far—culture, discipline, and leadership behavior drive results. Information is cheap—understanding is rare. Modern sales leaders must focus on helping teams interpret and act on information, not just collect it. Founders must evolve to scale. Vision and energy can win early deals, but scalable revenue requires infrastructure and repeatable systems. Accountability must be collaborative. The best accountability conversations aren't about blame—they're about commitments and progress. Leadership is leverage. Empowering people to grow and succeed multiplies impact far beyond what any individual seller can accomplish.   Who Should Listen This episode is especially valuable for: Sales leaders responsible for building scalable revenue teams Founders transitioning from founder-led sales to structured sales organizations Sales managers learning how to coach instead of just manage numbers Entrepreneurs building the infrastructure needed for growth Anyone responsible for developing people inside a sales organization   Links & Resources Membrain https://membrain.com Paul Fuller Email: paul.fuller@membrain.com   Subscribe & Follow Sales & Cigars is hosted by Walter Crosby of Helix Sales Development. "The only smoke we blow is from cigars." Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, or your favorite podcast platform.

What happens when success, hustle, and constant work stop bringing fulfillment? In this episode of Unstoppable Mindset, I talk with marketing strategist and entrepreneur Carlos Hidalgo about business growth, faith, burnout, and the hidden cost of hustle culture. Carlos shares his journey from corporate marketing leader to founder of Digital Exhaust, along with lessons from his book The UnAmerican Dream about work addiction, burnout, and redefining success. Their conversation explores why growth does not need to be complicated, why storytelling builds trust in business, and why boundaries matter more than work life balance. Carlos also opens up about faith, failure, relationships, and the power of honest conversations. You will hear practical insights on leadership, personal growth, community, and building a life that is both successful and meaningful. Highlights: ·  06:04 – Carlos explains how his faith became a personal relationship. ·  17:32 – Why he left corporate work to start his own business. ·  25:40 – His approach to making business growth simple. ·  30:17 – How hustle culture often leads to burnout. ·  42:29 – Why boundaries matter more than work life balance. ·  54:33 – Why real community helps solve loneliness. Top of Form Bottom of Form About the Guest: Carlos Hidalgo is the co-founder and CEO of Digital Exhaust, a growth partner that helps clients make growth simple. Carlos serves his clients as an advisor, consultant, and teacher to ensure they have meaningful engagement with their customers at every stage of the journey and are able to mature and create sustainable growth. Carlos has 30 years of experience working with organizations of all sizes as an advisor, consultant, innovator, and growth expert. He is widely recognized for his expertise in demand generation, marketing, sales, and customer experience and for coaching executives in the areas of leadership and managing change. In addition to his work with his clients, Carlos has won numerous marketing awards and been named to several prestigious industry lists as a marketing leader. Carlos is also the author of Driving Demand, which is ranked as a top 5 marketing book of all time by Book Authority, and The UnAmerican Dream, which was released in 2019. In addition to books, Carlos is a well-known international keynote and TEDx speaker. You can follow Carlos on LinkedIn or on Twitter @cahidalgo Ways to connect with Scott**:** LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlosahidalgo/ Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/CHidalgoJr Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/cahidalgo_ Twitter/X: https://x.com/cahidalgo About the Host: Michael Hingson is a New York Times best-selling author, international lecturer, and Chief Vision Officer for accessiBe. Michael, blind since birth, survived the 9/11 attacks with the help of his guide dog Roselle. This story is the subject of his best-selling book, Thunder Dog. Michael gives over 100 presentations around the world each year speaking to influential groups such as Exxon Mobile, AT&T, Federal Express, Scripps College, Rutgers University, Children's Hospital, and the American Red Cross just to name a few. 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Thanks for joining me on my podcast as we explore our own blinding fears of inclusion unacceptance and our resistance to change. We will discover the idea that no matter the situation, or the people we encounter, our own fears, and prejudices often are our strongest barriers to moving forward. The unstoppable mindset podcast is sponsored by accessiBe, that's a c c e s s i capital B e. Visit www.accessibe.com to learn how you can make your website accessible for persons with disabilities. And to help make the internet fully inclusive by the year 2025. Glad you dropped by we're happy to meet you and to have you here with us. Well, hi and welcome once again to an episode of unstoppable mindset. Today, our guest is Carlos Hidalgo. Carlos has many facets about him. He's a speaker. He deals with growth and growth management and with his company. He tries to make growth simple for the people who are his clients. I'm interested in learning about that, but he does other things as well. He is also involved with his wife and marriage counseling, which is a little bit different than the one I think I find a lot of people to do. So I think we got lots to talk about. So, Carlos, I want to welcome you to unstoppable mindset. We're glad you're here. Carlos Hidalgo  01:59 Thank you for having me. Michael, it's an absolute pleasure. Well, let's Michael Hingson  02:03 start with the early Carlos, why don't you tell us about you growing up and all that sort of thing, and where you came from, where you're headed, or whatever. Carlos Hidalgo  02:14 Sure, I was born one of six children. I was the youngest for about four years, and then my my parents had two more. So I am smack dab in the middle of middle six siblings. Was born in New Jersey, but call where I'm at now home, which is a little town in the Adirondack Mountains. And the reason I call it home, I started coming to camp here when I was five years old. Fell in love with the area, and then my father, in 1983 moved us up here when I was 12, and fell more in love with it. And that lasted for four years. And then my junior of high school, or right after my sophomore year, was told, Hey, we're we're moving I was 16, I was pretty pissed off at the prospect of leaving a place I loved, so I had engineered a plan to stay through my junior and senior high school, which in my mind, made perfect sense in my parents' mind, and for reasons now I understand, because I'm a parent, did not make so much sense, but I came back as often as I could, and then my wife and I moved here back full time in 2021 we also lived here in the 90s for two years, had our first son here so but grew up really charmed childhood was my dad was in advertising, so we got tickets to Great sporting events. We had horses that I took care of, along with some of my siblings, developed a love of the outdoors, which I still hold, which is one of the many benefits of living up here again. And so, yeah, pretty, pretty much, early childhood was, you know, be outside as much as I can run around school work wasn't my strong suit, but I muddled through and I Michael Hingson  04:04 made it. Where in New Jersey were you born? Carlos Hidalgo  04:07 Was born in a little town called Randolph in northern jersey. Spent most of our time in a place called blairis town. Their claim to fame as a prep school called Blair Academy, which I believe is still there. And then, I believe it was the original Friday the 13th was filmed. Part of it was filmed in Blairstown. Yeah, yeah. So I'm dating myself just a little bit. Michael Hingson  04:32 Well, we lived in Westfield for six years, so kind of know, New Jersey, but yeah, while we were back there, my wife always wanted to move back to California. She's a native. I was born in Chicago. She wouldn't let me call myself a native, even though we moved to California when I was five. But yeah, it's okay. Carlos Hidalgo  04:50 Sure, yeah, people get a little touchy about the term native or local and how it's defined, right? Michael Hingson  04:55 Oh, yeah, it varies all around the country, but there's. Nothing. You can't say anything bad about Chicago. They have Garrett Popcorn there. If you've never had it, next time we go through O'Hare Airport, you should get some Garrett Popcorn. Carlos Hidalgo  05:09 Okay, I will do that absolutely. Michael Hingson  05:12 Take a memo. Get Garrett Popcorn. It's it's really good stuff. Well, so what did you do for college? Or did you? Carlos Hidalgo  05:21 Yeah, I went to my first year, I went to a school called Word of Life Bible Institute. So it's a one year intensive program, study of the Bible actually here, not far from, literally eight miles down the road here, from where I live now. And at that point, it was really just an excuse to get back to the Adirondacks for a year, but I learned a whole lot. Met some incredible people, some of who I'm still very, very close with today. And then from there, I transferred to Cedarville University in Ohio. At the time I went there, we were about 2500 students. I think today they're closer to 7500 but I met my wife there, which was that, in and of itself, the three years of tuition that I paid as I transferred in, but study Business Communication, again, I wasn't a great student. What I realized is, if it was the things that I really loved to participate in, it was awesome. I had a really great time studying communication and language and how we speak. I was two years on the debate team, which was such a great education in and of itself. But everything else I didn't really love. I just the general ed stuff. I kind of thought, well, if I can skate by and, you know, get that, get the passing the credits. So that's really how I want about it. And the reality is, the way things are taught today, I'm a very visual and hands on learner, and so to sit in a classroom and try to take notes and go through theory and things like that just makes my brain hurt a little bit. So I but I but I finished. I got the degree and made some great friendships in the process. Michael Hingson  07:04 Well and clearly, based on what you did for your first year, you have a Christian orientation, or definitely a god orientation as well. Carlos Hidalgo  07:15 Yeah, that's that's really my operating system. Michael, I am a follower of Jesus Christ. I believe the Bible is the inerrant Word of God. I base my life on it. I spend time in it each and every day. And so what's interesting in that regard is, yes, I went to the Bible Institute. So while I had a lot of head knowledge about the Bible and God and Jesus and all these things, it's really been in the last 10 years that I would say I had a deep, meaningful relationship with them, and that came as from a lot of experience in my life, a lot of dark, dark moments in my life that were self induced, unfortunately. But really, what it's done for me is it's just radicalized who I am, changed my heart. And so it's gone from a having a head knowledge of it to a real experience and an engagement with Christ through His Word and through prayer. Michael Hingson  08:11 Yeah, head knowledge is is a fine thing as far as it goes, but there's nothing like personally experience coming closer to whatever it is, including dealing with believing in God and really recognizing what what God brings. And my last book that I wrote that was published last year, called Live like a guide dog, true stories from a blind man and his dogs about being brave, overcoming adversity and moving forward in faith very much deals with with a lot of that, the whole concept of the value and the power of personal knowledge, as opposed to just head knowledge. I talk about the World Trade Center a lot in that book, specifically in terms of what I learned and how I developed a mindset to be able to control fear, rather than letting it be the thing that overwhelmed me or overwhelms anyone and and I've had a couple people on this podcast who talk about it, and they say the same sort of thing that you did. It's not about knowledge that you sort of intellectually know. It's what you really know. So people, for example, in evacuating the World Trade Center, would look at signs, and they would follow those and a lot of people were able to do that, but that's still not knowing that is really relying on something else that you may or may not really have access to. So True Knowledge is the only way to go Carlos Hidalgo  09:38 100% and I find that I gather that through experience, yeah. And so the example I use is, if you ask me about my wife, you know, do you know Suzanne? I would say, Oh, yeah. You know, blonde hair, blue eyes, about five, five. Funny, smart. I could tell you all the different facts, but there's a big difference when you sit and you get to experience being with her, seeing. Her, how she interacts with people, how she treats others, all of those things. Take that knowledge and actually make an experience an experience, yeah. And so that's been the difference for me, as it regard, in my relationship with Jesus Christ, yeah, well, Michael Hingson  10:14 and Suzanne, so that's good. Carlos Hidalgo  10:17 Well, so absolutely, 31 years and we're still going. There you go. Michael Hingson  10:21 Well, keep going. That's that's cool. That's great to have that kind of a relationship. It's all too often we don't see a lot of that in marriage, and just people get married without knowing and that leads to all sorts of potential challenges. So it's good to really get to know someone Carlos Hidalgo  10:41 absolutely, yeah, I'm still, still learning, still studying her and learning all I can, after 31 Michael Hingson  10:46 years, and she is too Yes, she is. Carlos Hidalgo  10:49 She does a phenomenal job. Michael Hingson  10:52 So what did you do after college? Carlos Hidalgo  10:56 After college, I actually moved back up here, where I'm at now. Worked for two years for Word of Life, the same group that ran the Bible Institute. So then, actually, unbeknownst to me, i My heart was really at that point, I wanted to go into law enforcement. My father in law was an FBI agent for 30 years. I'd always been intrigued by law enforcement, so I thought going into and getting a job for a few years, cutting my teeth while I filled out a resume. So started working in the office of donor development or advancement, and that was the first time I really started to get any exposure to anything formal, marketing wise. In the meantime, applied to the FBI, never went anywhere. Ended up applying again, never went anywhere at that point. Then we moved to we left here after two years of marriage and having one child. We moved to Michigan for a brief time, and then we went back to down to from Michigan. We went to Dallas, where we lived for 13 years, and I worked while I was still trying to get into law enforcement. I kept getting marketing jobs and companies. So eventually I gave up the dream of law enforcement and just followed what's unfolding and had a pretty good career in two software companies as a director of marketing to cut my teeth and learn what global business was all about do a lot of travel, which helped me career wise wasn't so great home wise or parent wise when you're away from your kids, but it's been my career for 30 plus years. I've had a heck of a career doing it and very grateful for it, but I still still get intrigued at the whole concept of law enforcement, but I'm afraid I'm a little too old at this point to start down that path. Michael Hingson  12:47 How come you kept not getting anywhere with it? Carlos Hidalgo  12:51 Well, I did get to a point where the FBI I took a test when we lived in Dallas, and just they called after said I had scored well, which made me chuckle, thinking back to my college days of test taking, but and then they said, Hey, do you speak Spanish, which I do not, despite my name, which is very Spanish, Carlo. And they said, Okay, well, we'll keep your we'll keep your application on file. Let you know if anything changes. And that was the last I heard. So at that point, I just thought, okay, I can keep pushing this and trying. But again, as things started to unfold in the software world, the jobs that I had took care of my family. They provided well for us. They gave me opportunities to learn new things, try new things, opportunity to, like I said, international business, which I never done before. So at that point, I just thought, you know, I'm kind of seven, eight years into this thing. What does this look like going forward? And then are we going to have to just hit reset in all facets of our lives, financially, where our kids are settled, for me to go into law enforcement. So I abandoned it, and I'm okay with that. I think it would have been a phenomenal career. I would have loved it, like I said. I'm still intrigued by it, I still have great respect for it, but it just wasn't in the cards for me, and I'm okay with that. I think sometimes the way we grow is through the death of a dream. Michael Hingson  14:21 Yeah, I know I've always been intrigued by law and law enforcement, and I know that they're never going to hire me, and now they won't, right, but, but they wouldn't hire me, but I took, actually, some courses in college dealing with police and other things like that, because I was, and still am fascinated by it, and I have a great respect for the law. And I I admire good lawyers who are knowledgeable, who really are in it to deal with the law. And you can tell those from the typical ambulance type chaser who manipulates, but, but. I really appreciate the law. I in my life have had the opportunity to be involved with some efforts of the National Federation of the Blind, where we've gone several times to Washington to meet with congressional types. And so I've met some interesting people, met Ted Kennedy, met Tip O'Neill when he was still speaker, Senator Saugus from Massachusetts and others, and found and through them, got to meet some people who were truly committed to what they were doing. They weren't in it for the power. They were in it to try to really help the country and help their individual constituencies in their states and so on. It's a lot of fun. Carlos Hidalgo  15:47 Oh, I'm sure, I'm sure it was, I that's quite a roster of people you've been able to engage with, and I'm sure, no doubt, influence well. Michael Hingson  15:57 And we were there to talk about legislation that we needed. But I'll never forget first time we went in and we met Paul Tsongas. We talked about what we wanted to talk about, and he said, Well, it's the end of the day. What are you guys doing now? And we said, well, we're just going to go back to the hotel. And he said, You got a few minutes talk to you about Massachusetts. Well, we ended up staying for two hours. It was a lot of fun. Carlos Hidalgo  16:19 Wow, yeah, that is a lot of fun. I had an opportunity a number of years ago to do a tour of the West Wing, which was just phenomenal. So when you get, when you get those opportunities, I don't care what side of the aisle you may sit on or are partial to, the answer is yes, take it, because you learn a whole lot, and it's it gives you a whole new appreciation for our country. Michael Hingson  16:40 Well, 20 years ago, I was invited to come back and meet George W Bush because a congressman I had met was fascinated by my story and the story of my guide dog, Roselle, and he arranged for us to meet George W and we went back. It was supposed to be a brief, like two minute just photo op. This ended up being like a 15 minute conversation, and then it was a lot of fun. And I hope that we inspired him some, and we made a difference. And, you know, that's always a good thing. Carlos Hidalgo  17:13 Yeah, at the end of the day, right there people just like us. They are, I think the and I've heard that a lot about George W is his investment in people where he knew his you know, everybody in the staff that he knew their names, he knew about their families. So it doesn't surprise me that a two minute Meet and Greet was extended a little bit. Michael Hingson  17:34 We kept the Italian Prime Minister waiting while we finished our conversation, as it turns out, that's fine, Carlos Hidalgo  17:42 but it was good. There you go. There's your there, there's your the two truth and the lie icebreaker that they have. You do sometimes. There's, you can work that in, Michael Hingson  17:49 I could work that in, yeah, that would be, yeah, I should do that. Well, it was, but it was, it was, it was very enjoyable to be able to do that. Well. So now, so when did you start your own company? That's been a little while, at least. Carlos Hidalgo  18:04 Yeah, I started my first company that I started, I co founded with my brother. In 2005 I was working at the software company, and I just, I started to just have an edge of, you know, I should start something. I don't know what that looks like. And I remember one time just talking to my wife, and I said, I don't want to be 7580 years old. And think, what if, yeah, and my wife is very practical. And she said, Okay, so go for it, and if it doesn't work, just go get another job. And when she broke it down like that, I just thought, wow. Okay, she, I think she believes in me more than I do. So in 2005 I left the software company and we started a agency. And really, at that point for me, the Yes, I wanted to start my own company and see if I could do it. But the the big driving factor was my at that point, I we had four children, so we have four, and they were all pretty small, and I was traveling all over the country, and I didn't want to miss their childhood. And I remember coming home from trips and hearing conversations or seeing things that that I wasn't a part of, and I thought this, this isn't right. I need to be here. I need to be home. So I went to the software company, asked them what they thought they became my first client, and I did that for from 2005 to just early 2017 when I resigned my position as CEO there just to get my life back and kind of hit the reset button again, but this time, I meant it, so I left, and they're still going. But that was my first foray into entrepreneurship, and I just kept doing it since I started another consultancy, and now this is my third one, and also been part of about two to three other companies that. We launched, but never made it. So I enjoy the whole process. I love it, but, yeah, it's, I don't know. I mean, I will never say never, but the idea of not working for myself seems rather foreign to me. Michael Hingson  20:16 So the first company you had for 12 years, what did that do? Carlos Hidalgo  20:21 We were a mark. Marketing Yeah, we were a marketing services company. So we worked with business to business companies to help them in their demand generation, acquiring new customers and also customer growth. So that's really where a lot of my career has been sent, centered right, helping companies design them strategies, everything from content to technology to developing personas and putting together strategies on how to reach them when they're looking for something to buy that that client offers. Michael Hingson  20:52 Okay, well, that makes sense and certainly a worthy thing to do. So, when did you form your current company, digital exhaust, which is a very clever name, you'll have to tell me about that. Carlos Hidalgo  21:04 Oh yeah, there's a little bit of a story behind that. So I was working in 2022 early 2022 I had an offer to go be the Chief Revenue Officer of another agency, which I my wife and I talked about it, we prayed about it, and I had a really, really close friend of mine who was their chief strategy officer at the time, so the ability to work with him, stay in the industry and work with some really good clients, I jumped at, so I took that role over that role lasted eight months. I won't get into all those details of why? Never, never, really did get a clear answer. The answer I was given, not exactly. The numbers didn't the number. I'll just say the numbers proved otherwise. All that said that came to an end in 2023 I believe. Yeah, yeah, 2023 and so February, 23 so at that point, I was like, Okay, well, what do I do? I can try to go get a job, which I did. Nobody was really interested in, you know, early 50s, guy coming in. So, you know, did the interview thing. And then I just thought, Well, why don't, why don't I just bet on myself again and go for it. So at that point, the my friend who was the chief strategy officer, he had also left, so he and I started talking and thought, why don't we just do this together? You know, services he loves to implement, I love to sell. Let's just see if we can make a run at this. So here we are now. It'll be four years in or three years, I guess, in February or April of 26 and we're still alive to talk about it. And so that's how it came to be. It was really just, I've done this before. There's no security, no more security. I believe in working for somebody else than working for yourself. So bet on yourself and put out your shingle and see what you can make happen. Michael Hingson  23:06 Where did the name digital exhaust come from? That's a clever name. Carlos Hidalgo  23:10 Oh, thank you. We were, we were batting around so many different names, and we just had a thing, I think we had a running Google Sheet, like, let's just throw names up there. And then I was listening to a recording of a vendor that we had done work with in our early days, and he was talking about how you can track the digital movements of someone. And he said, You know, so basically, you know, they're leaving behind their digital exhaust. And he used the term twice. So I called my then partner, Tracy, and I said, Hey, what do you think about the name digital exhaust as a company? And he was like, Oh, I love it. So I said, Well, before we that, we have to call Dan and see if he would be okay. So I did some looking, you know, the whole trademark search, and when I told our partner about it. He said, Oh my word, I love it. He said, Never, never even thought that that could be a name, but if you guys want it, go for it. So we took it and it is, it's, it's, we think it's pretty unique, and it also describes a lot of what we do with customer data to get an understanding of how do you engage with them, where are they, and how are they going to interact with you and your brand? How so well. Again, he was right. I can look at your digital footprint or your digital behavior. I can see what sites you've visited, what web pages you visited, how much time you spend on a product piece, how much content you engage so I can look at all of that behind the scenes. Start to score that if you're an account that I want to go after, or if I'm a lead based sale, that gives me a lot of intelligence on what you're interested in. And then there's ways to kind of, from a insight perspective, determine where you are in that journey, whether it's your four. First time as a purchase, you're a current customer and you're interested in purchasing something else. So it gives us a lot of insight into that, so that I can message you or I also know when should sales place a phone call to you and start that conversation. So that's why we use the term digital exhaust, because, again, it's a lot of what we do and how we use our customer data. Michael Hingson  25:20 Several years ago, I watched a 60 Minutes program, gosh, I don't know it's actually a number of years ago. And one of the segments there was a guy who was on he was a private detective, and what he said was, I can tell more about you than most anyone else can simply by looking at your trash. And in fact, I can't remember if it was Mike Wallace or not. Who was the interviewer, but they went on investigated some trash cans and and this guy could just tell you so much about your entire life just by looking at what was in the trash can. It was really pretty amazing and and I don't mean that in any way as a negative thing, but it's very clever that people have that insight. So I appreciate what you're saying about digital exhaust. It makes perfect sense. Carlos Hidalgo  26:17 Well, good. I'm glad it does. It means we've hit the mark. I'm not I will say this. I'm not going to go through my customers trash, but I am not surprised that if you did how much you could learn about somebody, 100% but Michael Hingson  26:30 you do look at their their digital footprint and so again, and it makes perfect sense that you can learn so much that can help you, help them grow. Yes, absolutely gives incredible insight. You talk about making growth simple, tell me more about what that means. Carlos Hidalgo  26:51 Yeah, you know, I've been in the space a long time, and that really came a couple years ago. We started seeing different models that would come up different frameworks that would come out from different vendors. Started talking, you know, I talked to a lot of chief marketing officers in my role, and over and over, what we saw was just complexity of taking terms that everybody would know and applying a new term or creating a new term to replace the old term, because you wanted to stay edgy. And I finally had a CMO who said to me, this is all so complex. Is there any any organization out there, or any way to just make this simple? And I thought, Gee, I kind of been thinking the same thing, because I see all these talking heads out there on LinkedIn and at these conferences showing these overly complex, overly engineered models, and I'm like, You got to be a PhD to implement that thing. And again, I'm also a pretty simple guy. I don't think growth needs to be all that hard if you know your customer, what they need, when they need it, and why it's important to them. I'm going to be able to sell you quite a bit. I'm also going to be able to be a better marketing, better partner to you, because I'll be the first one to be able to tell you you don't need that, or you need that, but you shouldn't get it from us, and here's why. And so we just started saying, You know what? Let's create with our models. And we have models and we have frameworks, but we want them to be kind of what Apple is, right, really innovative, where you can use it. You don't necessarily have to have someone to guide you through it. And so let's just make it as simple as possible for our clients to grow their companies without these over engineered models, which mostly a lot of them are created to sell stuff. And while we want to sell stuff more, so we want to help customers be better at what they do. And so that's why we say is we want to help you make growth simple, cut through the clutter, get to what matters and move forward. Michael Hingson  28:58 Yeah, which makes a lot of sense. By by any standard, how do you find storytelling comes into what you do and how you interact with customers? Carlos Hidalgo  29:11 Yeah, it's really important in the beginning, right in the beginning stages. Anytime I'm engaging with you, if I'm a consumer and you're a brand, I want to your brand should tell a story about who you are, the value that the customer gets when they're going to interact with you, they're going to use your product, what you stand for. Can they trust you? Trust is huge. Right now. We live in a trust economy. I want to know that if you say something, I can you're going to stand behind it. So all of those things are come through in terms of story. Now, what I've always said is I think that story is important. But when it comes to now, especially in the world I live in business to business, once I get into maybe I want to purchase something for you or purchase your product. Now I. Moves from a story to a dialog because I started, I start need, needing to know, what are you interested in? What are your challenges? What are your needs, what are your pain points? And as you're telling me that I can respond more in a conversation, I can still use parts of the story, but now it's a two way dialog, even in a digital world. So if I can create that, that's fantastic, then you become my customer. And now I still want to keep telling you stories. I want to tell you a story about why you can trust us. I tell you a story about how I interact with you. I tell you a story about how I deliver service and how I help you onboard. So all that bleeds into what we call, you know, what I call the big customer experience, from brand engagement to what I'm buying to now that I become a customer, all of those are experiential factors that we have to consider. Michael Hingson  30:49 Well, yeah, and I think that storytelling is a very significant part of selling and sales, because it's part of what really helps create the trust, because people can see through it, if you're just blowing smoke or playing games. Carlos Hidalgo  31:05 Yes, they can absolutely. And you only get one shot if that's what you're gonna do only, yeah, once I realized that forget it, I'm not coming back, that brand loyalty is away real quick. Michael Hingson  31:16 Yeah. So do you encounter in the interactions that you have with people with a lot of burnout or who are going that way. Carlos Hidalgo  31:25 Oh yeah. It's, it's something that I went through in 2016 it's, it's a, I mean, the World Health Organization, whatever you think about them, they definitely have listed it as a illness or as a condition. So it's something that I've seen. It's something that I've written against quite a bit. I don't think we need to get there, but I also think it is part of the consequence, or the outcome of when we make work center of our universe, and we make work our God, when that's going to happen then, yeah, you're going to experience burnout. And I think burnout comes in different flavors, but I see a lot of people who are going through it, trying to work through it, trudge through it. I heard the term the other day, manage burnout. I don't know why you would want to manage burnout. I think you need to take steps to avoid burnout, to avoid it. Michael Hingson  32:17 Yeah, why is it so many people face it, and are experiencing burnout is because they just deal with work, they don't relax, or what. Carlos Hidalgo  32:27 Well, I think there's a lot, lot in that. I've done a lot of study, and that was the topic of some of the topic of my book that I released in 2019 the UN American dream is, I think we, especially in our Western culture, we have adopted this idea that the busier I am, the more important, the more valuable I am, and so and the reality is, none of us are well wired to go, go, go, go, go. Rest is actually a gift from the Lord. And you know, I think very few of us. But you know, think about the last time you talked to anybody. How are you? Oh, I'm so busy. We love to be busy. We love to have jam packed calendars, because it makes us feel good. The other part of it is when you think about workaholism, you know, that is an addiction. And the only time in my experience, we engage with or become addicted to something, it's when we're trying to avoid something else. And so think our workaholism, which leads to burnout, is right up there with our rising rates of anxiety, of depression, of loneliness, because we have bought a false narrative that if we go, go go, we jam pack our calendars, we work like and work like crazy until we hit some imaginary number or we can call it quits. That's what life is all about. And I just sit there and you know, my number one question to people who are running that race is, how's it working for you? You don't seem really happy right now, you don't seem fulfilled, and you're living on the promise of some day and some days, not a day in the week, right? Michael Hingson  34:03 I People ask me, How are you all the time? And my response is something actually that I borrowed from somebody else. I just say, I'm lovely. Yeah, I get lots of reactions from that. It's kind of cute, but it's great. You know, I I agree with you, there is a there's a need and a time, and it's appropriate to not work all the time. Yes, we we don't ever take time even just to sit and think about what we did today. We don't take time at the end of the day to go in our own brains. How did this work out? How did that work out? Why didn't this work? Why did this work? What could I do to make it better and then listen for answers? It's like praying. So many people, when they pray to God, they pray to Jesus and so on. They spend all their time praying and saying what they want, never realizing God all. And he knows that, yeah, when are you going to start listening for answers and really listening? And that's, that's the challenge that I see so often people don't listen, and the answers are always there. They're in their inner the the inner voice that they can hear if they but practice well. Carlos Hidalgo  35:17 And I think to part of that is you need to be still, right? And we see that in scripture where we're told be still and know that I am God, if I mean there, there. We have so much noise and so much input with our phones and constant, you know, interaction and constant noise. We don't give ourselves the ability to sit and think and process, to just to be still. And that is something that I would say, really, for me, over the last decade, has come into focus of I enjoy my downtime. I enjoy the silence that I it's one of the reasons when I run, I don't run with headphones. In my own little world, in my head, praying, thinking about things. There are times I'll drive in the car without the radio on, just in silence, and I tell people, then they look at me like, I have three heads. Yeah, I'm like, oh, it's I am so much better for it, because I'm no longer living life reactively. I'm able to live life in a way that brings me a lot of peace, a lot of joy, a lot of happiness. And when I work, I work really, really hard, but it's definitely not the center of my universe. Michael Hingson  36:27 I know people think I'm crazy, but I can go days without looking well, not days. I'll go a day. I do it volitionally, but I can go quite a while without looking at text messages, and when I do, their message is there sometimes, but I know that I could actually go for a considerable length of time without needing to carry my phone around. Now, the only reason I do carry it around, I mean, clearly some phone calls can come in and so on, but I use other tools on it that you have access to in other ways. So I use it for those things. But the bottom line is, is that I don't need to have this phone with me to stay in touch with people all the time. So if I carry my phone more often than not, I will be in a hotel room listening to something on the phone and, sure, relaxing, rather than all the other things that one could do with it well. Carlos Hidalgo  37:25 And the number of people that I talked to and research shows this that, you know, the last I saw was over 60% it's the first thing people do when they wake up is they reach over and look at their phone and I say, sit there and say, What is so important that you can't even wait 15 minutes from the time your eyes open. But we've become addicted. We've come addicted to the noise, to the constant, go, go, go. And then, you know, we have a friend of ours last year was just, I'm so busy. I'm so busy. Told my wife, over the next three months, I only have this one day I can do lunch. And then you start realizing, like, Well, really, that's, that's how you want to live your life over the next 90 days, you only have one day. Now, I didn't believe it when I heard that. I don't think they were trying to make excuse, and I don't think lying. I think in their heads, they really had this belief of, oh, I can. I've only got one day out of the next 90, but we've weed ourselves into believing that this is how we should be living life. Yeah, and it's not how I want to live life. I'll work hard, I'll put everything I've got into my clients and my business and things like that, but I don't want to be that strapped. I was that strapped one time, time wise and work wise, and it made me absolutely miserable. Mm, hmm. Michael Hingson  38:45 I know when I wake up in the morning I do reach for my phone right at the beginning. One of the very first things that I do is reach for it to see what the temperature is outside, to see what the temperature is your house, to see whether I want to turn the heater on, you know, but I don't look at messages. I don't need to do that. I'll do it eventually, but, you know, I So, as I say, I use it for other tools, but I use the phone, because that's the tool that's available to me that gives me that information, and it'll help me decide, do I want to turn the heater on, or do I want to turn the air conditioner off? And that's what I do. And then I put the phone down, and I start visiting with the dog and the cat, and we have conversations which is, which is kind of fun, Carlos Hidalgo  39:29 but yeah, you get to enjoy life. Michael Hingson  39:32 I remember, remember the old technology town? Now it's old Blackberry. Oh yeah, the black and Research In Motion. There was one night when Research In Motion lost communications with all of the blackberries, and every BlackBerry went dead, I think, for about 12 hours. But I heard that even during the time when that occurred, people committed suicide because they had no way to look at their blackberries. And. Get information. And I always thought you're that dependent, that you can't cope for a while, especially at night without that information. Carlos Hidalgo  40:09 Come on. Yeah, it's staggering. The number of, again, over 50% of people said that they would be panicked if they want an app without their phones and so and again, I used to, I used to live that way. So I understand it to a degree, but, well, I understand it. Yeah, I also tell people you don't have to live that way, because people i The people I know who live that way, don't seem very content or fulfilled, right, right? Which is really the issue, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely, because we only go, we only get one shot at this life, and I want to make the most of it. Michael Hingson  40:43 Make growth simple. Carlos Hidalgo  40:46 That's right, personal, personal and business wise, right? Michael Hingson  40:49 Personal and business wise. So what is hustle culture? Carlos Hidalgo  40:54 Well, hustle culture has been promoted by a lot of folks, a whole lot more well known that I am, you know, where Kevin O'Leary for Shark Tank, Shark Tank talks about, you got to be willing to work eight days a week, you know, and give everything you've got, you know. Gary Vaynerchuk talks about, you know, go, go, go, go. And, you know, we just see it out there of this, you've got to be willing to go above and beyond. If you want to have success, if you want to make this money, you've got to just make sure you're willing to hustle at all costs, which to me, there's a place for that. As I said, when I'm working I hustle. I work hard. I get in a zone. I kind of block everything out and and there are some weeks where we require over and above it. You know, 16 or a week is is not something that has never been done. But the difference is, there's a couple of differences. Is I'm going to work hard because that's what I'm told to do. In Scripture, it says that with everything you do, do it with all your might and do it to the glory of glory of the Lord. So I'm going to do that. Plus work was one of the first things that God ever created. He told Adam in the garden, I want you to work now, what we also see is that it was cursed when man sinned, and it was part of the curse in the garden. But I do believe work is noble. I believe it's valuable, I believe it has so many things that can teach us. So I'm working. I'm hustling hard when I'm working, but this idea that I need to give everything I have to my business so that I'm successful. Well, what about our relationships? What about our own our last word, too, right? Our own physical health? What about my marriage? All of these things that require work yet, you know, you got a guy like Grant Cardone talking about 95 hour work weeks. That's insanity. Yeah, at what point, you know, so to me, I really believe, and I've had some people who've argued with me over this. If you want to know what the object of your affection is, show me where you're spending the most time and attention. And it's not time or attention, time and attention, right? I cannot. I cannot be, quote, unquote, working, but I can be with my wife, but my brain is working. My brain is thinking about my work, thinking about my business, thinking about my career. So what good is it to her if I'm there or not? Yeah, I'm not investing in that relationship, and that is just as much work as anything else. And I would I would say the rewards are better and the gratification that much deeper. So can work life balance actually be attained? I don't believe in work life balance. I believe in boundaries, and maybe I'm splitting hairs, but when I see that, over 70% of people say that work life balance is unachievable. It tells me it doesn't exist. It's also the only place in our lives where we talk we try to separate work from life. Nobody talks about finance life, business, kids life, business, marriage life, business. But we talk about work life balance. Now I understand we spend a lot of time at work in our modern day culture, but if I can decide that I'm going to put boundaries around the things that matter most to me, so like work, like my relationships, like my physical, mental and emotional health, my spiritual health, and that's how I've started to live life. Is instead of trying to balance everything, I'm going to set boundaries. So what does that look like? Well, the first thing I do in the morning is not check the phone. I get up, I pray. I have coffee with my wife. Sometimes we have really deep conversations. Sometimes we look just let the caffeine kick in and let it wake up, and then we set time in prayer. So every day, pretty much between 815 and 830 I'm at my desk ready to work, but I've put a boundary around that morning time, which allows me to start the time with with my Bible and with my wife from 830 To about 1230 I'm locked in. I am working. There's a boundary around there's a boundary. And then about 1230 to one, about two o'clock, that's my workout. Either go to the gym or I go for a run, come home, make my protein stuff, and then I'm back working again. And so and then when I'm done work, between 530 and six, I shut it down. Work is over, and now it's my personal life again, and whatever that looks like, and some of that is seasonal, because of where I live, in the summer, it'll get stay light till 930 and the winter, it gets dark by 430 there's quite a disparity. But because I have those boundaries, I know that I'm able to bring the best of myself to each of those areas of my life, and that is far easier than balance. And when one of those boundaries needs to move, I get to have a conversation. Hey, I've got a call tonight overseas. Or do we have anything? Are we good if I take this call at 730 at night? So I take the call at 730 at night, but I have that discussion, and it's it takes more effort to move a boundary, takes very little effort to get knocked off balance. Michael Hingson  46:05 Yeah, and I think that makes perfect sense. I know for me, when Karen was here, we we enjoyed breakfast and we enjoyed dinner, and I think there's a lot of value in that. Now, I was always the earlier riser, but partly because I worked for companies that kind of required that. That is to say I worked, for example, when I lived in the east for California companies. So I ended up being there later. But when I worked in the West, calling the east, I had to be in work by six, because that's what I needed to do. But we agreed on that, and I hear exactly what you're saying. The fact of the matter is that you've got to really make some decisions, but if you're in a relationship, then you both have to agree and make the decisions together, which is what really should happen 100% Carlos Hidalgo  46:58 and those boundaries will change. I mean my boundaries now that I'm an empty nester, you know, had I lived this way 15 years ago, would have looked far different because I still had children at home. And so the boundaries can shift and change. But to your point, you have to talk about that. And what I have come to believe is that if I'm making those decisions in regards to my business, my job, my career, and I'm not having the conversation with my significant other, then I'm not I'm not sacrificing anything. I'm just selfish. And yet, what we see is, Oh, you got to sacrifice for your business. I've said to couples before, if you and your wife believe and want to say, hey, we want to go build this thing and we want to go sell it so we know the next five years we're hardly going to see each other, and we're both on board with that, and this is what we want. Go in peace. I think you're nuts, but Go in peace, but still, you made the decision together. That's right, and that's the difference. And I find that a lot of people do not do that, and I also think it adds to the stress and the loneliness and the anxiety and the depression is because we're chasing something that is so fleeting, and no matter what Empire we may build professionally, we can't take it with us, right? Michael Hingson  48:13 And that's something that I wish more people would truly realize. It would make for a much happier world. Carlos Hidalgo  48:21 It would. But the unfortunate part is, until the pain and consequence of how you're living outweighs the fear of change, most likely you're never going to do anything different, right? 48:31 So tell me, Carlos Hidalgo  48:32 oh, go ahead. No. Oh, okay, tell me about the Michael Hingson  48:36 title of the book, the UN American Dream. Where did that come from? And why did you name the book that, why was that the title? And so on, Carlos Hidalgo  48:42 yeah, and so in 2016 is when I informed the company that I had started with my brother 11 years earlier that I was stepping down. Didn't really know what that looked like. I literally just one day, through the help of a friend and God's good grace, decided that it was time for me to go. And so the way they wanted to handle it in end of the year, and I think this was like end of October ish, when I made that decision, they said, You know what, let's not announce anything. We don't want our clients to get spooked in q4 so let's wait until the turn of the the new year. So that was into 2017 so I made a post, and I published it in February, 2017 about why I was leaving the company, some of the things that I was learning along the way. And what surprised me was the phone calls and emails I got from colleagues who said, Hey, I just read your post. Can we talk? I'm kind of thinking about the same thing. I'm miserable. And it was one email in particular that still stands out, where he said, I'm miserable. I started to think like, wow, okay, this, this is not just me. My circumstances were different. But this seems to be a problem, so I started to just do some research on our obsession with work, the number of hours we work, this idea of balance and hustle culture. Really immersed myself in it, and I thought this isn't what Truslow Adams meant when he coined the term the American dream. We're killing ourselves for what like, for What's the objective here to just add another zero to my bank account. So as I started to do that research, I saw myself and a lot of that same story, and the mistakes I made and how I was, you know, I had put my business first all the things that we've talked about. And I thought, Man, this is really quite un American, really, because we say we're the land of the free and the home of the brave, but we're not free if we're slaves to our company or our jobs or our careers. So I thought, You know what? I think what we're doing to ourselves is un American, and we're chasing the UN American dream, and that's how I came up with the title, Michael Hingson  51:05 who have been some of your greatest influencers? Carlos Hidalgo  51:09 Wow, I have had a lot. Obviously, my parents have been huge influences in my life. My mom is a fierce prayer warrior, and so I fervently believe I would not be where I'm at today if it wasn't for her and her faithfulness and that and my dad is it has been in marketing and sales and advertising. So learned a lot from him, just in life, and then also in business. There's a gentleman who lives up the street who is kind of like a second dad to me, it's an interesting relationship, because his son is also my best friend, but gentleman by the name of Keith Vander wheel who is salt of the earth, wise, just a wise, wise man has loved me, has when needed, given me a swift kick in the rear end, and just really helped keep keep me focused, and been one of these guys that I can go to, and it's a little about almost 20 years older than I am, so he's one that has seen more and done more. So I'm thankful for that. And then I am very fortunate to have about three or four very, very dear, dear friends, close friends, I mentioned one, Keith's son, who spur me on to greater things, encourage me when necessary, rebuke me and help me. And then I would say, more than anything, my wife, I learned stuff from her each and every day, her steadfastness, Her Grace, her strength of character, she is absolutely the strongest person I know, and has been the biggest influence in my life. Michael Hingson  52:45 I when I was in college, did radio, and I've always liked comedy. I've always liked trying to be a little bit flip and so on, yep. But I will tell you that my wife constantly amazed me. She was pretty much a lot more straight faced and straight laced than i But when she came out with a zinger, it came out of left field, and you never saw coming. She was amazing. Clearly, she observed me a whole lot more than I thought she did, right? Carlos Hidalgo  53:18 And what a gift that is to have. My wife and I were just, we went out for brunch today, with it being the holiday, and I just, I told her, I said, I just love how much we laugh. Yeah, what a gift that is to have in your marriage. We're just laughing together and laughing at each other in a way that's not demeaning, but appreciates our differences. And you know, we can tease each other and enjoy it and know it comes from a place of love, yeah. Michael Hingson  53:42 How do we deal with the epidemic of loneliness in our lives and in our world? Carlos Hidalgo  53:48 Wow, that's a great question. It's first of all, I think it's heartbreaking. I see this especially with men. And statistics would show that that men especially struggle with loneliness. I think number one is we have to come to the realization we were not meant to live in isolation. We are communal beings. God created us to live in community, and we need to step into that. And part of that is letting your guard down and being vulnerable and letting people know where you struggle. Now I'm not talking about wearing your heart on your sleeve and walking right every stranger and spilling, but those closest of relationships, and I can say, you know, for me, when I isolated, that's when I became the worst form of myself and went to places I never thought I would go. And so I think loneliness, first of all, get off social media and your phone, because that's not a connection. No, your friends, all of your 1000s of friends on Facebook, are not true friends. They're people, you know, but they're not people that are going to walk with you through some of the hardest times of your lives, and so find those. Group, find that community, whether it's your church, whether it's a small group that you take part in, whether it's people at your work, but really start to invest in those relationships and bring as much to it as you're expecting them to. And for me, it became just with those closest relationships. I'm an open book. I'm not going to BS. I'm going to talk about what's on my heart, what I'm struggling with, what my victories are, what my low points are. And for me, that starts with my spouse. As I mentioned, I've got three other men in my life that are around my age that I can confide in, be open with, and it's the most freeing, wonderful thing, and it's their relationships that I cherish, and I think that's how we end this cycle of loneliness. But I think a lot of people have been duped. Well, I'm on I've got a bunch of friends online, yeah, you know, put the phone down, get off your social media platform and go be human and interact with other people. Michael Hingson  56:01 It gets back to the same thing we talked about earlier. There's a whole big difference between head knowledge and really knowing. And the friends who are truly your friends are people who you know and who know you and that you can truly be honest with and who will be honest with you. And that is not something that you get from all those Facebook friends. Otherwise, you're being awfully silly, right? Carlos Hidalgo  56:23 And I also think we have to get out of this idea in our culture that if I don't affirm you, I somehow don't like you anymore, this idea that tolerance and love are the same thing. Some of my closest friends have been some of the ones that have come to me and said, Hey, here's what we've observed, and we're sure you don't like that about you, and you know this needs to change. And I love that. I love that I friends who will call my stuff and a wife who will say to me, this isn't the best you like what's going on here? I need that in my life, because if all I want to do is have people pat me on the back and affirm me. I'm going to get entitled pretty quick. Yeah, and that doesn't help at all. Right? How do we bring civil discourse to our society? We're in an environment and in a world where we just don't appreciate or have conversations anymore. How do we deal with that? Well, I think a couple of things. First of all, I think we have to get back to an appreciation for and a respect for human life and humanity in general. Michael, I'm sure if you and I spent a few hours together, we would eventually land on a topic that we don't just that we don't agree on. I can be okay with that, and because if I'm open to say, Hey, Michael is a human being. He's smart. He's overcome incredible odds in his life, and maybe if I listen, I can learn something. Doesn't mean I'm going to come to your side of the the position, but I can at least learn something. But I think systematically, over decades, we've been denigrating the the value of human life. I mean, how many millions of babies have we aborted in this country? You know, your your own story, your parents were told, hey, just put him in a home. He's not going to amount to anything because of his blindness. That's insanity, you know. So today, instead of civil discourse, if I don't like you, I berate you online, I make something up about you, or I kill you. And right so and to tell you how far we've gone, not only does that happen, but then we're gonna have people who celebrate in the murder of whether it's an insurance CEO or a Charlie Kirk, or anybody, and I just sit there and say, Okay, we've we've gotten so far right civil discourse. And so I think number one is just a respect and a value for human life, which we have a lot of work to do there. And then number two, again, back to what I said, this idea that if I disagree with you, I somehow don't love you anymore. And the example I use is this idea of, well, you need we need more tolerance and affirmation. There was a time Michael where my behavior within our marriage just was unacceptable. I mean, I was cheating on my wife, and once she found out she still loved me, but she couldn't tolerate the behavior for reasons that I think I need to explain. So at that point, you say, All right, well, how do those two things work together? If I had kept doing what I was doing, I know for 100% she would have loved me till the day she died, but she died, but she wouldn't have been able to stay with me, because you can't tolerate that behavior. She's supposed to affirm that. And so this idea that because I quote, unquote, love you, I affirm you, I actually make the case that if I love you, I'm going to help you be the best form of yourself, which sometimes means disagreeing with you and pointing things out in your life. That are unhealthy, that's fair. So I think we have to get back to that place of we can have disagreement, still have respect for each other. We can disagree vehemently and still do it respectfully, right? And then at the end of the day, I can respect your position because of who you are as a person, and that you know, giving you the benefit of the doubt. This is a well thought out position. And so, okay, great. We agree to disagree. We can still be friends, yeah? Michael Hingson  1:00:27 And we might learn something, or at least be put on a path where we think about it, and we may discover that, oh, that person's right, correct, yeah, which is Carlos Hidalgo  1:00:36 cool, yeah, and it's not that hard. And again, no, do your do your homework. Know what the real issues are, and stop reading headlines on social media. Michael Hingson  1:00:46 Yeah, really, get away from that. What else should we know about you? Carlos Hidalgo  1:00:50 Well, I'm the father of four amazing kids spread all over the country, ages 30 to 20. He'll be 24 in 10 days, and then an amazing daughter in law, soon to be daughter in law, my second son is engaged, gets married next year. I love the outdoors, anything outside. And I would say, if I want your audience to remember anything, it's that what Jesus Christ has done in my life has been nothing short of amazing. And like I said at the beginning, this is my operating system, and it's who I am and my reason for being in each and every day. And I sit here and I just am in awe of the life I get to live. So I'm very, very thankful and very, very humbled by it all. Michael Hingson  1:01:36 If people want to reach out to you and maybe explore working with your company, using your company to help them. How do they do that? Carlos Hidalgo  1:01:43 Yeah, you can email me at Carlos at Digital exhaust.co it's not.com so make sure it.co's or I won't get it. So you can shoot me an email visit our website, which is digital exhaust.co or looked me up on LinkedIn, just Carlos adalgo, H, I, D, A, L, G, O, right. That is correct. Yeah. I appreciate you getting the name right on the introduction. So thank you for that. I worked at it well. Michael Hingson  1:02:12 I want to thank you for being here. This has been wonderful. And as I tell people all the time, if I'm not learning at least as much as anybody else on this podcast, and I'm not doing my job well, which means I do need to listen and think about it. And I appreciate all the insights that you gave us today, and I appreciate all of you being here and being with Carlos and me. Love to get your thoughts. Please reach out to Carlos. Please email me at Michael H i, at accessibe, A, C, C, E, S, S, i, b, e.com, but most of all, wherever you're listening or watching the pod podcast, please give us a five star review and a rating. We love that. We love your your input, please. Of course, I want it always to be positive, but I'll take whatever you send because we we value that. And for all of you and Carlos, you as well, if you know anyone else who ought to be a guest on the podcast. We'd love it if you'd let us know we're always looking to meet more people to help show that we're all more unstoppable than we think we are. And with that, I want to thank you again, Carlos, for being here. This has been absolutely fun. Carlos Hidalgo  1:03:13 Michael, thank you so much. I've really enjoyed it. Michael Hingson  1:03:20 You have been listening to the Unstoppable Mindset podcast. Thanks for dropping by. I hope that you'll join us again next week, and in future weeks for upcoming episodes. To subscribe to our podcast and to learn about upcoming episodes, please visit www dot Michael hingson.com slash podcast. Michael Hingson is spelled m

In this episode of The Broadband Bunch, host Brad Hine sits down with Steve Smith, Founder and Chief Revenue Officer of Live Oak Fiber, to discuss how one of the fastest-growing regional fiber networks in the Southeast came to life. With more than 25 years in the telecom industry, Steve shares the journey from consulting and go-to-market strategy to launching a greenfield fiber build backed by major infrastructure investment. What started as a business plan and a small team in 2022 has quickly grown into a network serving tens of thousands of customers across southern Georgia and northern Florida. Steve explains how Live Oak identified underserved growth markets, built resilient underground fiber infrastructure designed to withstand severe weather, and scaled rapidly to more than 40,000 subscribers and 200,000 homes passed. Brad and Steve discuss how thoughtful market selection, strong operational leadership, and strategic financial partnerships helped Live Oak move from startup to a major regional broadband provider in just a few years. But the real story goes beyond infrastructure. Steve shares how Live Oak's “fiercely local” philosophy—engaging with community events, supporting local businesses, and building authentic relationships—has become a key driver of the company's success. This episode highlights how broadband providers can build both resilient networks and meaningful community impact—featuring stories of hurricane-tested infrastructure and Connect Four showdowns with local students.

Artificial Intelligence is transforming sales faster than any technology shift we've seen before. In this episode of Make It Happen Mondays, John Barrows sits down with Peter Grant, CRO of You.com and a four-time unicorn operator who helped scale companies like Salesforce and Siebel.Peter shares his journey from the British military to enterprise software leadership, and how that experience shaped his approach to leadership, hiring, and sales discipline. The conversation dives deep into how AI is changing enterprise sales, go-to-market strategies, and the future of work.They explore why AI literacy is becoming a mandatory skill, how sales organizations are evolving, and why the gap between top performers and average sellers is about to grow dramatically.If you work in sales, leadership, or technology, this episode will challenge the way you think about productivity, hiring, and the role of AI in modern business.What You'll Learn in This Episode• How Peter Grant went from the military to leading revenue at multiple unicorn companies• Why AI is the biggest disruption to sales since the internet• The evolving role of sales professionals in an AI-driven world• Why top performers are becoming even more effective with AI tools• The risks of relying too heavily on AI without critical thinking• How enterprise companies are adopting AI and measuring ROI• The importance of AI literacy for professionals in every industry• Why the future of work will reward curiosity, adaptability, and continuous learningAbout the GuestPeter Grant is the Chief Revenue Officer at You.com, an AI platform helping enterprises deploy generative AI solutions with measurable ROI. He has helped scale several high growth technology companies, including Salesforce and Siebel, and is known for building high-performing revenue teams in emerging technology markets. MIHM Peter GrantKey TakeawaysAI is accelerating the performance gap.Top performers who embrace AI will become dramatically more productive, while those who rely on outdated processes risk falling behind.AI literacy is becoming essential.Understanding how to effectively use AI tools will soon be a core skill across nearly every profession.Sales roles are evolving.The traditional sales process is changing as buyers gain access to more information and automation tools.Curiosity and adaptability matter more than ever.Professionals who continuously learn and experiment with AI will have a significant advantage.Resources MentionedYou.com – https://you.com/businessJohn Barrows Training – https://jbarrows.com

In the inaugural episode of Built To Scale with CRC-Oyster, host Michael Durette, Managing Principal and Chief Revenue Officer of CRC-Oyster, sits down with Founder and Managing Partner Mitch Avnet and Managing Principal Buddy Doyle. Together, they reflect on the origins of their respective legacy organizations and the strategic acquisition that brought them together under CRC-Oyster. The discussion explores the current regulatory landscape, the priorities and pressures facing clients today, and the opportunities ahead as CRC-Oyster continues to grow and evolve in 2026 and beyond.CRC-Oyster: Compliance Risk Concepts / Oyster Consulting

Who would have guessed that a panel about law & insurance would electrify the attendees at ACT Research Co.?I, for one, expected it.For 40 years, ‪ACT Research Co. has brought the trucking industry together to anticipate change and chart its future. What's more, ACT Research Co. recently hosted its 74th Market Vitals: The Current & Future Health of the Industry Seminar in Columbus, IN. The event marked a special milestone of 40 years delivering commercial vehicle and freight market intelligence to the industry.On the third panel of the day, ol' Armchair Attorney® brought some sizzle. It's easy to do that when you share the stage with the likes of Thom Albrecht, Chief Revenue Officer at Reliance Partners; Anthony Johnson, President at Marvin Johnson & Associates, and the imperturbable Timothy Denoyer as our esteemed moderator. We covered insurance and litigation pressures in the freight market. But so much more! We discussed the latest issues regarding non-domiciled CDLs, nuclear verdicts, IEEPA, and motor carrier insurance.This program is brought to you by DAT Freight & Analytics. Since 1978, DAT has helped truckers & brokers discover more available loads. Whether you're heading home or looking for your next adventure, DAT is building the most trusted marketplace in freight. New users of DAT can save 10% off for the first 12 months by following the link below. Built on the latest technology, DAT One gives you control over every aspect of moving freight, so that you can run your business with speed & efficiency. This program is also brought to you by our newest sponsor, GenLogs. GenLogs is setting a new standard of care for freight intelligence. Book your demo for GenLogs today at www.genlogs.io today!

We're back! After a little hiatus between new guest episodes, we return in style as Dave sits down with Aviv Canaani, Chief Revenue Officer at Datarails, to discuss his firm belief that there is no real way to grow a B2B company without building a brand - especially not today.Aviv shares his unique journey from marketing leader to Chief Revenue Officer, and how he transformed a traditional outbound sales machine into a high-growth inbound powerhouse through a constant process of experimentation, risk-taking, learning and iterating. Along the way, he and Dave dismantle the myth (prevalent amongst many scaleup marketers) that brand is just "fluffy" creative work. We also dive into:The CRO's case for brand: Why revenue leaders should obsess over brand as the ultimate "revenue tomorrow" engine.The outbound/inbound shift: How Datarails moved from 90% outbound to 90% inbound through intentional brand-building and community.Balancing short-term & long-term: Managing separate growth and brand teams to hit this quarter's targets while fueling future demand.B2B doesn't mean boring: How memes, a niche podcast, and sponsoring the Microsoft Excel World Cup drove massive engagement in the typically corporate finance space.If you're a marketing leader looking to learn more about brand-building's impact on revenue growth, or moving beyond over-reliance on short-term outbound activity, this masterclass in modern B2B growth is for you.

Join the conversation with C4 & Bryan Nehman.  The latest information on the ongoing conflict in Iran.  Kristi Noem is out at DHS & MarkWayne Mullin is in.  City board of estimates license plate reader contracts.  Baltimore County police release bodycam footage following a man's death after being punched by an officer twice in the face.  Michael Scott, Board Member at Ashburton Community Association, joined the show discussing bill 25-0066 for multifamily dwellings.  Don Rovak, Chief Revenue Officer with your Baltimore Orioles, joined the show discussing what's new at Oriole Park for 2026 including the new video board, seating options & more.  Listen to C4 & Bryan weekdays from 5:30-10am on WBAL News Radio 1090, FM 101.5 & the WBAL Radio app!

Send a textIn this episode, Kay Suthar sits down with Ian Moyse to unpack why sales is not what most people think it is. As Chief Revenue Officer at ONEUP Sales, Ian challenges the traditional view of high-pressure selling, non-stop cold calling, and obsessing over numbers. Instead, he explains why sales is not about convincing anyone of anything. It is about listening, understanding, and delivering value. Ian shares why many sales teams get stuck focusing on metrics rather than meaningful conversations, what needs to change in modern sales environments, and why active listening is one of the most powerful skills a salesperson can develop. If you have ever thought sales felt pushy or uncomfortable, this episode will shift your perspective completely.What to expect in this episode: (00:00) – Why sales is not rocket science (03:40) – The problem with non-stop calling in sales teams (07:15) – Why people obsess over numbers in sales (11:20) – Why sales is not about convincing (15:10) – The power of active listening in sales (19:30) – The type of interaction customers do not want (23:45) – Delivering value and exceeding customer expectationsAbout Ian MoyseIan Moyse is Chief Revenue Officer at ONEUP Sales. He began his career in sales at the age of 20 and quickly progressed into management by 23. Over the years, he has developed into a respected Sales Leader within the Cloud industry, mentoring teams and helping individuals exceed expectations. Passionate about sales as a skilled profession, Ian continues to learn, compete, and deliver value at the highest level. He is also an experienced keynote speaker known for bringing energy, insight, and practical wisdom to every stage he steps onto.Connect with Ian MoyseWebsite: https://www.oneupsales.co.uk/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianmoyse/Email: ian.moyse@oneupsales.co.ukTwitter: https://twitter.com/imoyseFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/imoyseInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/ian_moyse/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/IanMoyse1FREE Gift from IanLearn more via ONEUP Sales: https://www.oneupsales.co.uk/Connect with Kay SutharBusiness Website: https://makeyourmarkagency.com/Podcast Website: https://www.makeyourmarkpodcast.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kay-suthar-make-your-mark/Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/482037820744114Email: kay@makeyourmarkagency.comFREE Gifts from Kay Suthar:3 Ultimate Secrets to Getting Booked on Podcasts: https://getbookedonpodcast.com5 Simple Steps to Launch Your Podcast in 14 Days: https://14daystolaunch.com

James is the Chief Revenue Officer at LiveSwitch, a global technology company that serves the trades and other businesses. As an industry thought leader and expert in sales, leadership and business innovation, he has extensive experience working with entrepreneurs, small businesses and Fortune 500 enterprises. James is also an entrepreneur who founded a painting and power washing company. Website: https://www.liveswitch.com/ Start your free trial: https://www.liveswitch.com/contact-signup Coupon: Use code "CLP10" for 10% off at checkout! Book a demo: https://book-a-demo.referral-factory.com/uXYAPcUO About LiveSwitch: LiveSwitch is a leading communications platform that uses instant video to transform how people work and scale their business. Home service companies trust LiveSwitch to provide virtual estimates, document job progress, and streamline operations, all in real-time.  

Don Rovak, Chief Revenue Officer of the Baltimore Orioles, joined Wednesday's BBMS to discuss the upgrades to Camden Yards for the 2026 season.

Guest: Peter Platten, Chief Revenue Officer of Protos Security. Peter joined the company in 2020 and has helped lead its transformation from a $150 million organization to a $750 million revenue firm today. Overview: Private equity doesn't reward incremental thinking. It rewards leaders who can scale under pressure, build systems that outperform, and push past what most teams believe is possible to Make BIG Happen.  On today's show, Peter Platten explains his four-move framework to grow fast in a private equity environment. He also discusses how to build teams that overshoot goals instead of simply meeting them and why systems-thinking -- not siloed optimization -- is the real key to exponential success.

In "The Logistics of Growth: Scaling Freight Tech Companies", Joe Lynch and Will Urban, Founder and Principal of Will Urban Consulting, discuss the strategic intersection of traditional logistics discipline and high-velocity tech innovation to drive multi-billion dollar scale. About Will Urban Will Urban is the Founder and Principal of Will Urban Consulting, a premier advisory firm specializing in scaling global logistics and freight tech organizations. With over 30 years of executive leadership experience, Will has navigated the evolution of the industry at the highest levels, holding pivotal roles at both the traditional logistics powerhouse Expeditors and the digital disruptor Flexport. During his tenure as Chief Revenue Officer at Flexport, he was instrumental in driving the company's organic revenue growth from $600 million to over $5 billion. Today, Will leverages his extensive background as a full partner at R7 and a venture partner at firms like Companyon and Nine Realms. He is a deeply connected figure in the supply chain ecosystem, serving as an investor, advisor, and board member for numerous startups and venture capital firms, where he bridges the gap between complex logistics operations and institutional investment. About Will Urban Consulting (WUC) Will Urban Consulting (WUC) is an elite consultancy dedicated to helping supply chain and freight tech companies master the "Logistics of Growth." Founded by Will Urban following his successful tenure at Flexport, the firm occupies a unique niche by providing executive-level expertise that blends traditional logistics excellence with modern digital scale. WUC is comprised of a global team of specialists—many of whom are veterans of Expeditors and Flexport—who focus on refining go-to-market strategies, accelerating revenue growth, and building sustainable sales organizations. Beyond operational consulting, WUC acts as a strategic bridge to the capital markets, helping startups navigate the complexities of fundraising by leveraging a deep network of venture capital and private equity investors. Operating on a flexible, month-to-month model, WUC provides clients with immediate ROI and unparalleled access to a global network of shippers, carriers, and industry leaders. Key Takeaways: The Logistics of Growth: Scaling Freight Tech Companies In "The Logistics of Growth: Scaling Freight Tech Companies", Joe Lynch and Will Urban, Founder and Principal of Will Urban Consulting, discuss the strategic intersection of traditional logistics discipline and high-velocity tech innovation to drive multi-billion dollar scale. The Power of Hybrid Expertise: Will Urban offers a unique "ground-up" perspective by bridging the gap between traditional logistics giants (Expeditors) and modern digital disruptors (Flexport). This dual experience allows him to help companies balance the disciplined, P&L-focused rigor of established firms with the "move fast" agility of tech unicorns. The "Inside Man" for Fundraising: For startups, navigating the VC world is often a translation problem. Will acts as a strategic bridge, helping founders articulate the value of supply chain nuances to generalist investors and ensuring they pitch to the right firms whose investment appetite matches their specific business model. A "Disciplined Grind" for Scaling: There is no "silver bullet" for massive growth. Drawing from his experience leading Flexport from $600 million to over $5 billion in organic revenue, Will emphasizes that scaling requires a disciplined, high-execution grind and a focus on building sustainable, global go-to-market programs. Democratizing Technology (The Convoy/DAT Model): A significant trend in freight tech is the transition from standalone products to integrated ecosystems. The acquisition of Convoy's platform by DAT illustrates how best-in-class technology can be used to drastically reduce the "cost to cover" a load, democratizing high-end tools for smaller trucking operations. Economics Matter (P&L Discipline): Despite the high-growth expectations of venture capital, Will maintains that the P&L always matters. He advises tech companies to align their pricing with the transactional nature of the logistics industry, as many clients prefer transactional costs over fixed, bottom-line software fees. Leveraging Relational Capital: In an increasingly digital industry, deep human networks remain a primary driver of success. Will's 30-year network of shippers, carriers, and executives provides "warm" entry points that are often more valuable than any piece of software for securing market share. Identifying and Investing in "Grit": Beyond just technical viability, Will looks for "gumption" and persistence in founders. His investment philosophy—often through his family office or as a venture partner—prioritizes individuals who demonstrate the hustle and resilience required to survive the volatile cycles of the global supply chain. Learn More About The Logistics of Growth: Scaling Freight Tech Companies Will Urban | Linkedin Will Urban Consulting (WUC) | Linkedin Will Urban Consulting (WUC) Inside the DAT – Convoy Platform Deal: What This Acquisiton Means for the Freight with Bill Driegert The Logistics of Logistics Podcast If you enjoy the podcast, please leave a positive review, subscribe, and share it with your friends and colleagues. The Logistics of Logistics Podcast: Google, Apple, Castbox, Spotify, Stitcher, PlayerFM, Tunein, Podbean, Owltail, Libsyn, Overcast Check out The Logistics of Logistics on Youtube  

The way we consume video has transformed rapidly, but what does that mean for media companies, advertisers, and families planning for the future? As technology accelerates and AI reshapes workflows, where does human connection still matter most? In this episode, Evan Wohl speaks with Ryan Spicer, Chief Revenue Officer of Atmosphere TV, about how the media industry has shifted from traditional television to on-demand, multi-platform viewing. They explore how streaming, ad models, and AI are reshaping digital media and advertising workflows. Ryan shares insights on connected TV outside the home, the blending of industry buckets, and why human skills like communication and critical thinking will matter even more in an AI-driven future. Ryan shares: How video evolved from scheduled television to on-demand, multi-screen experiences Why Atmosphere TV reimagines content for bars, gyms, and public spaces How AI improves ad targeting, workflows, and meeting preparation Why streaming ad experiences can feel more disruptive than legacy TV breaks The importance of human connection, critical thinking, and communication in an AI future And more! Connect with Evan Wohl: Opus Private Client, LLC  ewohl@opus-pc.com  LinkedIn: Evan Wohl YouTube: OPUS Private Client, LLC Connect with Our Guest: LinkedIn: Ryan Spicer Website: Atmosphere TV About Our Guest: Ryan Spicer is the Chief Revenue Officer for Atmosphere, the leading connected television platform for businesses, spearheading the national and local ad sales teams across the organization.  Ryan is a 18+ year media professional with leadership & strategy experience in linear television, premium digital publishers, content marketing & experiential activations across news, sports, and entertainment. Ryan previously spent more than 14 years at Turner & WarnerMedia, now part of Warner Bros Discovery, helping transform the leading media company from a legacy linear entity to a multi-platform content distributor with robust digital consumer engagement. In recent years, Ryan led client partnerships for the CNN Digital portfolio, across the Northeast, Southeast and Midwest territories, focusing on the brand's digital, mobile and branded content offerings, and was among the sales leadership team for the successful launch of the HBO MAX with Ads steaming product.

In this minisode, Cedric Pech, President of Field Operations at MongoDB and former CRO, shares a formative leadership moment from early in his career at PTC that shaped how he thinks about building revenue organizations. He tells the story of a manager who invested in him personally before he had proven himself professionally. It is a lesson in what real leadership looks like under pressure. For CROs and frontline leaders alike, this clip is a reminder that culture is built in moments like these, not in mission statements. Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

If you are using Artificial Intelligence to build 47 funnels a day and not making any money, it is a trap. Here is how to use AI to actually scale a real business instead of just failing faster. In this video, we break down the fundamental marketing principles that outlast any software update and how to apply them using Artificial Intelligence. Unlike standard tutorials that teach you to spam volume, we reveal the specific data from an MIT study showing why 95% of AI business applications fail to deliver measurable results. You will see exactly how to use AI data analysis to identify your most profitable assets, eliminating shiny object syndrome. We specifically cover the Pareto Principle (the 80/20 rule) and the "Offers + Goodwill x Frequency" framework to predictably scale your existing business.

Building a successful sales career isn't just about hitting quotas—it's about intentional career planning, fostering creativity, and creating environments where talent can flourish. Too many organizations focus solely on product training while neglecting the human element that drives revenue growth. In this conversation with Edward Allen, Chief Revenue Officer at Measurabl, we explore how strategic career development and creative thinking can transform both individual trajectories and organizational performance. Edward shares insights from his 30-year journey through financial services and technology, revealing how simple yet structured approaches to talent development can reduce attrition and accelerate growth.          The Power of Structured Career Conversations Edward discusses his quarterly career development framework—a departure from traditional annual reviews that often come too late. These conversations focus on understanding what employees truly want to do, what they don't enjoy, and exploring possibilities they may not even know exist within the organization. Creating Roles That Don't Exist One of the most compelling aspects of our discussion centers on encouraging team members to pitch entirely new roles. Edward shares his own experience of giving up a $400 million book of business to create a new position that ultimately quadrupled revenue for underperforming divisions. Revenue Hackathons and Cross-Functional Innovation We explore how bringing together diverse perspectives—from finance to legal to frontline sales reps—can solve complex business challenges in unexpected ways. Edward explains how cognitive diversity becomes an accelerant for innovation when you create the right forum for ideas to emerge. Here's what you can expect to gain from this episode: ·        A framework for conducting meaningful quarterly career development conversations that reduce surprise departures ·        Strategies for identifying and developing hidden internal talent through cross-functional moves ·        Methods for ensuring junior team members' voices are heard and valued in revenue planning ·        The importance of portable skills training that benefits both current performance and future career growth ·        How to structure feedback systems that encourage innovation from the bottom up Edward's approach challenges conventional hierarchical thinking and demonstrates how investing in people development directly correlates to revenue outcomes. Whether you're managing a small team or leading a large organization, these principles can help you build a culture where creativity thrives and careers flourish. Key Moments of This Episode 00:00:52 - Introduction to Edward Allen and Measurabl Mario introduces Edward Allen, Chief Revenue Officer of Measurabl, a sustainability data and technology company. Edward shares his 30-year career journey from Goldman Sachs to leading revenue teams, highlighting his transition from financial services to fintech and his current role at Measurabl. 00:04:23 - From Acting Dreams to Sales Success Edward reveals his unexpected career path, sharing how he initially pursued acting at the American Academy of Dramatic Arts before pivoting to Goldman Sachs. This personal story demonstrates the importance of taking risks and finding your true calling in professional development. 00:06:48 - Building Structured Career Development Systems Edward discusses implementing quarterly career development conversations with direct reports, moving beyond traditional annual reviews. He emphasizes asking "how do you like your job?" and creating formal processes to understand employee aspirations and reduce regrettable attrition. 00:14:00 - Investing in Portable Skills Training The conversation shifts to training philosophy, with Edward advocating for soft skills development over product training. He shares examples of negotiation training, social psychology, and certification programs that employees can take anywhere, creating value for both current and future roles. 00:20:35 - Creating Accountability for Career Development Edward explains how to systematize career development through metrics and KPIs, including personal development goals, manager scorecards, and tracking regrettable attrition. He emphasizes making career growth visible and celebrated within the organization to drive engagement and retention. 00:32:22 - Unlocking Hidden Internal Talent Discussion focuses on cross-functional moves and international opportunities. Edward advocates for 60-day internal job postings before external searches, sharing examples of unexpected internal candidates who became successful in new roles across different geographies and functions. 00:35:58 - Running Revenue Hackathons for Innovation Edward explains the concept of revenue hackathons, bringing together diverse teams including finance, legal, and sales operations to solve business challenges. He shares a success story of creating email-based contracting for Fortune 100 clients through collaborative innovation. 00:39:25 - Amplifying Junior Voices in Sales Culture The discussion covers strategies for ensuring junior employees' ideas are heard, including reverse-order meetings (starting with junior staff), documenting all feedback, and providing follow-up on suggestions. Edward emphasizes the importance of recognition and creating safe spaces for innovation. 00:54:23 - Contact Information and Closing Edward provides his contact details, and the hosts wrap up with his favorite movie recommendation. The episode concludes with information about the Modern Selling podcast and promotional content for productivity tools. About Edward Allen Edward Allen is the Chief Revenue Officer and member of the Executive Committee at Measurabl. Measurabl is the world's most widely adopted sustainability data and analytics platform, empowering over 1,000 customers across 93 countries to achieve great levels of profitability.  The company serves the needs of investment managers, asset owners, real estate operators and banks and insurance companies. Prior to Measurabl, Edward worked for 20 years at MSCI where he led strategy and grew top line revenue across a multitude of data and analytic businesses.  He started his career in financial services at Goldman Sachs in the Institutional Advisory Services group. Edward received his Bachelor's Degree in Political Science from Boston University, his Master's in Business Administration from HEC School of Management in Paris, also spending time studying at London Business School. 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Hard work doesn't always lead to results. And for many executive leaders, that's the real frustration.In this episode of The Executive Appeal, Alex D. Tremble sits down with Jim Iyoob, President of ETS Labs and Chief Revenue Officer at Etech Global Services. Jim shares how mentorship, servant leadership, and real execution—not just effort—are what truly develop high-performing teams.Starting his career as a call center agent and growing into a global executive, Jim explains how great leaders identify will over skill, invest in the right people, and create systems that drive behavior change at scale.You'll learn:Why will and hunger matter more than raw skill in leadership developmentHow to mentor without overextending your time and energyThe importance of discovery before solving team problemsWhy effort and intelligence don't automatically produce resultsHow servant leadership builds long-term loyalty and performanceThis episode is for you if:Your team is working hard but outcomes feel inconsistentYou're mentoring leaders who say they want growth but don't executeYou want to build a self-driven, accountable leadership pipelineYou're scaling teams across cultures or global environmentsListen now to learn how disciplined mentorship and discovery create teams that execute, not just stay busy.

Scaling from regional VP to global CRO is not a promotion. It is a shift from managing execution to defining meaning at scale. In this replay conversation, Cedric Pech reflects on leading a 2,000-person global sales organization at MongoDB, integrating complex routes to market, and building culture that withstands market volatility. He breaks down the difference between compensation-driven leadership and purpose-driven leadership, why execution alone creates burnout, and how resilient organizations are built long before downturns arrive. For CROs and revenue leaders navigating scale, volatility, or retention pressure, this episode offers a grounded perspective on building durable teams without burning them out. Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

Summary In this conversation, Chad Burmeister interviews Michelle Donnelly, Chief Revenue Officer at Crescendo, discussing the transformative impact of AI on customer experience. They explore how Crescendo's AI-native platform enhances customer interactions, the integration of human agents, and the efficiency gains from AI implementation. Michelle shares insights on industry applications, ethical considerations, and the future of AI in sales, emphasizing the importance of human touch in customer service. Takeaways Crescendo has achieved $100 million in AI ARR in just two years. AI chatbots can accurately handle 98% of customer inquiries. The integration of AI and human agents enhances customer experience. AI can transform customer service into a profit center. Speed and efficiency are critical in customer interactions. AI can provide insights that improve product offerings. Companies can achieve significant cost savings with AI implementation. The human touch remains essential in customer service. AI can help new sales hires become productive faster. Ethical considerations in AI deployment are crucial for customer trust. Chapters 00:00 Introduction to Crescendo and AI in Customer Experience 02:49 Transforming Customer Experience with AI 06:00 Industry Applications of AI in Customer Service 10:55 The Role of AI in Enhancing Human Agents 16:26 Efficiency Gains and ROI from AI Implementation 18:43 The Future of AI in Sales and Customer Interaction 22:12 Ethical Considerations in AI Deployment 24:29 The Future of Physical AI Agents 26:57 Skills for the Future Sales Workforce The AI for Sales Podcast is brought to you by BDR.ai, Nooks.ai, and ZoomInfo—the go-to-market intelligence platform that accelerates revenue growth. Skip the forms and website hunting—Chad will connect you directly with the right person at any of these companies.

In this episode, Bryan Haakenson sits down with Heidi McMillen, Chief Revenue Officer at OttoMoto, to talk through how auto lending really works behind the scenes. With experience across underwriting, banking, and automotive technology, Heidi explains how the lending process has changed over time. From manual reviews to AI-driven decisioning and fraud detection, she breaks down what actually happens after a deal is submitted and why approvals and pricing land where they do. The conversation also digs into fraud, synthetic identities, and the growing role of lender aggregators in today's market. Heidi shares practical insight into how dealer behavior affects lender relationships and long-term portfolio performance. Together, she and Bryan discuss why it matters to understand what lenders are really looking for and how the right mix of technology, relationships, and back-end products leads to better outcomes for everyone involved.

You don't need a bigger team to scale your CPG brand. You need the right who. Most founders think the next move is hiring a full-time VP of Sales, a marketing team, or a supply chain lead. But at $5M, $10M, even $20M, that kind of overhead can crush your cash flow before retail ever pays you back. In this episode, we sit down with Les Hamilton, founder of CPG Integrated and former Target buyer, agency executive, and Chief Revenue Officer. He breaks down what actually happens when you get into retail—and why so many brands fail after they "win" the shelf. You'll hear: • Why retail is an audition—and most brands fail it • The hidden cash flow trap behind national rollouts • What buyers really care about (hint: it's not your factory) • Why premium pricing beats competing on margin • When to hire marketing first—and when you desperately need a CFO • How fractional executives can get you to $70M without a $300K salary If you're a founder trying to move from digital to brick-and-mortar—or from $7M to $70M—this conversation could save you millions. Listen now and rethink how you scale.  

Marketing used to feel more predictable. You picked your channels, launched a campaign and tracked performance in a fairly linear way. Today? Consumers are bouncing between social, search, streaming, AI tools, connected devices and more—all before making a decision. In this episode, Matt Fanelli joins Tessa Burg to unpack what's actually broken in marketing measurement and how leaders can rethink performance in a fragmented world. Matt breaks down why platform-led measurement often misses the mark, how attribution gets messy when multiple touchpoints influence a purchase and why defining “what success really looks like” is the first step most marketers skip. The conversation explores real-world examples—from healthcare to retail—and explains how better attribution, smarter use of AI and stronger human oversight can help teams build trust in their numbers again. If you're responsible for performance, budget allocation or defending marketing results to leadership, this episode will give you a clearer framework for measuring what matters. It's a practical conversation about cutting through the noise, focusing on quality over volume and building measurement strategies that actually reflect how people buy today. Leader Generation is hosted by Tessa Burg and brought to you by Mod Op.  About Matt Fanelli: Matthew Fanelli is Chief Revenue Officer at Digital Remedy, where he leads commercial strategy, revenue operations, and go-to-market execution as the company scales its performance-driven media platform. With more than 20 years of experience in digital advertising, Matt brings deep expertise across programmatic media, data strategy, and performance marketing. Prior to Digital Remedy, he served as SVP of Sales at Media Now Interactive, leading data-driven revenue initiatives. Matt focuses on helping brands and agencies drive measurable outcomes through unified, cross-channel performance intelligence. About Tessa Burg: Tessa is the Chief Technology Officer at Mod Op and Host of the Leader Generation podcast. She has led both technology and marketing teams for 15+ years. Tessa initiated and now leads Mod Op's AI/ML Pilot Team, AI Council and Innovation Pipeline. She started her career in IT and development before following her love for data and strategy into digital marketing. Tessa has held roles on both the consulting and client sides of the business for domestic and international brands, including American Greetings, Amazon, Nestlé, Anlene, Moen and many more. Tessa can be reached on LinkedIn or at Tessa.Burg@ModOp.com.  

Warren Zenna is joined by Eric Steele, CRO at SIB, to pull back the curtain on the often-chaotic reality of stepping into your first Chief Revenue Officer role. Eric shares why these initial appointments are rarely "sexy" and often come with significant organizational challenges that others might avoid. They discuss the mental shift required to move from a sales leader to a true executive, treating the first role as a critical lab for learning.The conversation digs into the paramount relationship between the CRO and the CEO, which Eric describes as the ultimate unlock for success. He explains how to build a foundation of trust that allows for healthy disagreement and strategic alignment. By positioning yourself as an integrator of the CEO's vision rather than just a department head, you can secure the autonomy and resources necessary to navigate the high-pressure environment of private equity.Eric also highlights the strategic necessity of financial fluency, emphasizing that a CRO must speak the language of the CFO to be taken seriously. They discuss the common friction point of Revenue Operations and why this function must report to the revenue leader to drive growth rather than just board reporting. Eric argues that alignment on EBITDA and margins is just as important as hitting sales targets when you are operating at the C-suite level.The episode concludes with a look at how SIB uses AI-driven "spend ontologies" to help companies find hidden capital. Eric describes how their SpendBrain technology identifies deep errors in invoices—from waste hauling to logistics—allowing CEOs to fund new hires and technology through recovered savings. By combining human expertise with "kinetic cost control," Eric shows how modern CROs can impact the bottom line by turning the tables on a spend-more world.

Send a textFundraising can often feel like chaos, spreadsheets, shifting metrics, donor churn, and constant pressure to hit the next goal. But what if the real breakthrough isn't in more tactics… but in a fundamental mindset shift?In this episode, I sit down with Erik Tomalis, Chief Revenue Officer at Avid and a fundraising leader with more than 20 years of experience and 4,000+ face-to-face donor solicitations. Erik has helped raise millions for healthcare, education, human services, and youth-focused nonprofits and now he's helping organizations simplify and scale their efforts through the first AI-powered Fundraising Operating System built specifically for nonprofits.We explore:What “chaos” really looks like inside fundraising teams—and why it's so hard to cut throughThe hidden costs of transactional donor relationshipsHow to shift from spreadsheets to communityThe 1–2 data questions that actually matterWhy retention breaks down and how to fix it in the first 90 daysHow to empower fundraisers to act with clarity and confidenceIf you want to stop chasing numbers and start building lasting donor relationships, this episode is for you.

In today's minisode, Football coach and author Brian White shares essential leadership lessons on building winning cultures that apply far beyond the field. Brian breaks down why trust must flow both ways, from the individual entering a new organization and from the team itself, and reveals why assimilating into an existing culture before trying to change it is the key to lasting impact. Whether you're a sales leader establishing yourself in a new company, a manager building team cohesion, or a CRO creating a culture where people compete selfishly but give selflessly, this episode delivers actionable insights on peer leadership, the power of direct human engagement, and why the huddle is always more important than the position. Brian White is a veteran Division I football coach, Assistant Coach of the Year, and author of The Locker Room Is Not for Sale. Over 55 years in and around elite programs including Notre Dame, he has coached national champions, developed NFL talent including Heisman Trophy winner Ron Dayne, and built cultures grounded in respect, accountability, and the human touch. Resources mentioned: The Locker Room Is Not for Sale by Brian White The Qualified Sales Leader by John McMahon Want to know how top-performing organizations create a culture of consistent success? Check out Force Management's guide to the Predictable Revenue Framework:  https://hubs.li/Q03-T6NH0 Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

Most restoration companies are sitting on thousands of past customers and doing absolutely nothing with them.In this episode, Clinton sits down with Alex Nghiem, Chief Revenue Officer at Epic180, to break down a simple but powerful idea:Your CRM is either a gold mine or a graveyard.If you've been in business for 5+ years, you already have a built-in revenue source. Past water losses. Mold jobs. Fire cleanups. Carpet cleaning. Duct cleaning. Crawlspace work. These customers already trust you.So why aren't you marketing to them?Alex explains:Why most restoration CRMs are full of untapped revenueHow to turn non-emergency services into consistent cash flowThe real cost of responding 10 minutes too late to a new leadThe difference between speed-to-lead and speed-to-conversationHow AI can handle follow-up without adding staffHow some companies are generating 5–6 figures from their existing databaseIf you're tired of feast-or-famine revenue…If you want more predictable cash flow…If you'd rather monetize relationships you've already built instead of constantly chasing new leads…This episode will change how you look at your customer database forever.Listen in and learn how to turn your existing contacts into your own internal revenue engine.-----Want to see how Epic180 can help your restoration company grow?Get a free gift here:https://epic180.com/giftLooking to generate more high-quality leads that turn into onsite visits and jobs?Book a discovery call with the Water Restoration Marketing team:https://waterrestorationmarketing.com/discovery-call/

What happens when AI stops being treated like a tool and starts being hired like an employee?In this episode, we sit down with Gabe Larsen, Chief Revenue Officer at Atonom (formerly known as Signals), to explore a bold reframing of AI agents as “cloud employees” hired on salary to perform specific job roles.Rather than selling software seats or charging per conversation, Atonom packages AI as role-based digital workers. You hire an AI SDR, a customer service rep, or a recruiter. You coach them and you measure their output. And if they do not perform, you let them go.Gabe explains why the traditional SaaS model failed to deliver outcomes, how AI agents are shifting from tools to teammates, and why pricing AI like a human employee simplifies adoption. We dive into multi-channel AI employees, autonomous multi-agent systems, role-based templates and the realities of scaling AI across sales, customer service and recruiting.Gabe also shares his views on the broader AI market, where Signals sits relative to other AI players and why he believes multi-channel autonomy is a key differentiator.Show notesFind out more about Atonom: https://atonom.ai/Follow Gabe Larsen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabelarsenFollow Kane Simms on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kanesimmsDownload our exclusive report on how AI agents keep CX stable when volume explodes: https://vux.la/scaleTake our updated AI Maturity Assessment: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/a26bf9Rr?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=vuxconsulting25Subscribe to VUX World: https://vuxworld.typeform.com/to/Qlo5aaeWSubscribe to The AI Ultimatum Substack: https://open.substack.com/pub/kanesimms Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Episode Notes In this conversation, Michael Duning reflects on how leaders think about pace, not just in terms of hitting targets, but sustaining teams over time. He explores the role of adaptability, clear priorities, and communication in setting a pace that supports both performance and well-being. Our Guest: Michael Duning Michael Duning is the Chief Revenue Officer at PlaytestCloud, where he leads the go-to-market organization across sales, marketing, customer success, and research enablement. PlaytestCloud helps game studios and publishers run fast, high-quality player research at scale—so teams can make better product decisions, reduce development risk, and build games players actually want. Michael has spent his career in high-growth SaaS, focused on turning strong products into predictable, scalable revenue engines. References: Michael Duning Linkedin profile Listen to the next Episode All Podcast Episodes

In this episode, Debra Jaeger, SVP and Chief Revenue Officer at Mount Sinai, shares how she is unifying fragmented revenue operations, improving cash collections and denials, and leveraging AI, predictive analytics, and workforce development to modernize the revenue cycle and enhance the patient financial experience.

There's no shortcuts to a winning sales culture. When leaders compromise standards for convenience, talent, or short-term wins, they erode the very foundation that sustains performance over time. Brian White joins John Kaplan and John McMahon to unpack why elite teams are built on respect first, why trust is collective (not individual), and why commitment without conditions is the only kind that lasts. Drawing from decades inside championship locker rooms, Brian outlines what it takes to build peer-led accountability, accelerate young talent, demand excellence without demeaning people, and create environments where pride replaces entitlement. This conversation is for revenue leaders who want to build a long-lasting high-performance culture that goes beyond incentives.Brian White is a veteran Division I football coach, Assistant Coach of the Year, and author of The Locker Room Is Not for Sale. Over 55 years in and around elite programs including Notre Dame, he has coached national champions, developed NFL talent including Heisman Trophy winner Ron Dayne, and built cultures grounded in respect, accountability, and the human touch.Resources mentioned:The Locker Room Is Not for Sale by Brian WhiteThe Qualified Sales Leader by John McMahonWant to know how top-performing organizations create a culture of consistent success? Check out Force Management's guide to the Predictable Revenue Framework: https://hubs.li/Q03-T6NH0Key takeaways from this episode:16:53 – Why respect, not trust, is the true starting point of elite team culture25:55 – The human touch as a competitive advantage, not a soft leadership tactic35:27 – Caring is competence, and why pride is earned through preparation and standards40:54 – Why three clear values outperform forty two vague ones47:48 – How peer leaders, not titles, protect the integrity of the locker room55:06 – You don't rise to the occasion, you fall to your level of preparation01:02:06 – Why great leaders get talent in front of experience and refuse to hide behind youth 01:06:22 – Why direct engagement eliminates fear and prevents cultural drift Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

In this 5 Insightful Minutes episode, Maia Josebachvili, Chief Revenue Officer of AI at Stripe, joins Omni Talk to break down what retailers are really saying about Agentic Commerce — and how the conversation has shifted dramatically in just six months. From fraud concerns to discoverability challenges, Maia explains how Stripe is helping merchants navigate the AI agent landscape with the tools they need to stay in control, stay competitive, and sell through AI agents without rebuilding their entire commerce stack.

In this week's Omni Talk Retail Fast Five, sponsored by the A&M Consumer and Retail Group, Mirakl, Ocampo Capital, Infios, Quorso, and Veloq, guest host and resident talent expert Jenn Hahn, joined Chris and Anne to discuss: Converse employees being instructed to work from home ahead of layoffs and restructuring at the struggling Nike brand (Source) Co-op launching a gender pay gap toolkit ahead of new UK regulations (Source) Target and Albertsons testing conversational advertising inside ChatGPT (Source) American Eagle building its largest creator community yet with a rewards-based micro-influencer program (Source) Independent convenience stores deploying AI voice insights across 5,200 locations (Source) And Stripe's Chief Revenue Officer of AI, Maia Josebachvili, stopped by to give us 5 Insightful Minutes on how retailers can set themselves up for success in the new world of agentic commerce. PLUS — in partnership with Quorso, and together with Jenn, we handed out this month's OmniStar Award to Kristin Popp, Executive Vice President of Woodman's Food Market and President of Women's Grocers of America, fresh off being named Woman of the Year at the NGA Show. There's all that, plus curling drama at the Winter Olympics, Robert Duvall's Mount Rushmore, and what one thing from 2016 our hosts would bring back. Music by hooksounds.com #RetailNews #Converse #Nike #ChatGPTAds #RetailPodcast #OmniTalk #AmericanEagle #MicroInfluencer #ConvenienceStore #AIRetail #AgenticCommerce #Stripe #GenderPayGap

Melissa Swisher is Chief Revenue Officer at SkySafe, a company delivering the intelligence organizations need to detect, analyze, and act in today's increasingly complex airspace environment. SkySafe specializes in airspace intelligence — providing real-time drone detection, analytics, and forensic capabilities that help organizations determine whether a drone is authorized, where it originated, how it's flying, and in some cases, who is operating it. The company works with state agencies, public safety organizations, and major event operators to bring greater visibility and accountability to the skies above critical infrastructure and large public gatherings. As Chief Revenue Officer, Melissa leads SkySafe's strategic partnerships and revenue growth initiatives, helping expand the company's footprint across government and commercial markets. She brings extensive C-level experience, having played key roles in two successful IPOs — SuccessFactors and Castlight Health — as well as multiple strategic acquisitions. Prior to SkySafe, she co-founded Socrates.ai, which was recently acquired by Simpplr. Known for building high-performing teams and driving customer-focused growth, Melissa combines operational expertise with a deep understanding of scaling emerging technologies. In this episode of the Drone Radio Show, Melissa discusses the evolution of airspace intelligence, the biggest gaps in current drone defense systems, what new legislation means for local law enforcement, and how organizations are preparing for large-scale global events in an era of rapidly expanding drone activity.

Mike Oitzman and Gene Demaitre recap their recent trip to attend the Manifest tradeshow in Las Vegas. The show features vignettes from the show floor with executives from many of the industries most innovative warehouse and supply chain robotics companies. Show timeline 8:12 - Zoox autonomous taxi trip recap 6:20 - News of the week 14:33 - Manifest Recap with Gene Demaitre and Mike Oitzman 34:08 - Interview with Sankalp Arora, CEO, Gather AI 41:58 - Interview with Ben Gruettner, Chief Revenue Officer, Robust.AI 49:28 - Interview with Owen Nicholson, CEO, Slamcore 54:21 - Interview with Mason Cole, VP Sales, Slip Robotics 1:00:55 - Interview with Steven McKinley (COO) and Jim Leifer (CEO) with Ambi Robotics 1:10:00 - Interview with Jackie Wu, CEO, from Corvus Robotics 1:16:40 - Interview with Kevin Damoa, founder and CEO Glid Technologies 1:22:37 - Interview with Eric Miller, cofounder and CEO of Autopallet ### – SPONSOR – Download the 2026 State of the Robotics Industry Report: https://www.therobotreport.com/state-of-robotics-industry-report-2026/

In this episode of the Thread Podcast, Justin Vandehey sits down with Elizabeth Herbst-Brady, Chief Revenue Officer of Condé Nast, to explore how one of the world's most iconic media companies is navigating transformation in the age of AI.Elizabeth shares lessons from her career spanning media, advertising, and technology, including leadership roles at Yahoo, Snap, and Viacom, and explains why trusted brands, human creativity, and editorial authority are becoming more valuable, not less, as AI accelerates content creation.The conversation covers how Condé Nast is using AI responsibly to enhance, not replace premium content, how revenue teams are being unified across advertising, commerce, subscriptions, and live events, and what it takes to lead teams through constant transformation with curiosity, accountability, and gratitude.This episode is a masterclass in modern GTM leadership at the intersection of creativity, technology, and trust.Chapters 00:00 – Welcome & Elizabeth's Career Journey From media and entertainment to technology and back to Condé Nast.04:40 – Why Condé Nast, Why Now The opportunity to lead revenue at an iconic, trust-driven brand.07:30 – AI and the Future of Premium Content Why AI can't replace human creativity, taste, and editorial authority.11:45 – Creation vs. Curation in an AI World How Condé Nast separates content creation from AI-powered enhancement.15:30 – Using AI to Improve Consumer Experience Real examples from Bon Appétit and The New Yorker.19:30 – Why LLMs Reward Credibility Over Volume How AI changes the economics of SEO, expertise, and originality.23:40 – Unifying Revenue Across Silos Bringing advertising, commerce, subscriptions, and events into one revenue org.27:50 – Leading Through Transformation Elizabeth's leadership framework: curiosity, accountability, and gratitude.32:30 – What's Next for Condé Nast & Premium Media Why trusted brands will accelerate over the next 12–24 months.Key Highlights & TakeawaysAI should enhance content, not replace human voice or judgment.Trust, credibility, and editorial authority are premium assets in an AI era.LLMs reward expertise and originality, not volume or SEO tricks.Revenue transformation requires visibility, shared data, and cohesion across teams.The best leaders embrace constant change with curiosity and accountability.Premium media's value proposition strengthens as information becomes noisier.

At ITEXPO / MSP EXPO in Fort Lauderdale, Doug Green, Publisher of Technology Reseller News, spoke with Jon Brinton, Chief Revenue Officer at Crexendo, about the company's latest announcement: the launch of the Crexendo Marketplace. Crexendo is also a member of the Cloud Communications Alliance (CCA). Crexendo, a unified communications service provider, merged with NetSapiens five years ago, bringing together a robust UCaaS platform now powering approximately 240 service providers globally. That ecosystem supports nearly 7.5 million users—a number that has grown more than fourfold since the acquisition. The new Crexendo Marketplace builds on that momentum by delivering a centralized, frictionless application store for certified integrations and third-party solutions. “What we've now released is a Crexendo Marketplace,” Brinton explained. “If you think about it like the Google Play Store or the Apple Store, it's an application store that somebody can go to download, activate or integrate with applications that are certified for our platform.” Through one-touch provisioning, service providers can enable integrations such as mobile dialer support, analytics, Microsoft Teams connectivity, and Crexendo's AI-powered receptionist and orchestrator, Cairo—all without complex implementation paths. The Marketplace reinforces Crexendo's sessions-not-seats licensing model, which allows MSPs and service providers to own their customer relationships while building equity in their businesses. Brinton noted that AI-driven add-on applications are driving significant incremental revenue, often far exceeding traditional per-user UCaaS pricing. “Some of these AI applications… may be worth four to five to ten times that in monthly revenue to our partners,” he said, underscoring the opportunity for higher-margin growth. As innovation accelerates across the cloud communications landscape, Crexendo continues to invest heavily in platform development and ecosystem expansion. With its annual NetSapiens user group meeting scheduled for Austin later this year, the company remains focused on empowering partners with tools, integrations, and community support to compete—and win—in an evolving market. Visit https://www.crexendo.com/

Are you actually growing your product, or just stacking signups that never turn into usage?A lot of teams get stuck there. More registrations feel good, but it's not the same as real usage, paid adoption, and a pipeline you can trust. And now with AI in the mix, it's easy to create more activity without getting more signal.In this episode of B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks, hosts Stijn Hendrikse and Brian Grav bring on their first guest, Alex Laventer.Alex has spent years in growth roles in B2B SaaS, including leading growth at DataStax and now leading go-to-market work on an AI agent product at IBM.The conversation gets practical fast, what “growth” really means, and how teams split (or combine) growth marketing and product growth.You'll walk away with a clearer way to measure growth, how to set up tracking you can rely on, and where AI can help (and where it tends to distract), including lead scoring and workflow automation.In this episode, you'll learn:Why signups mislead growth conversationsWhere teams lose signal without trackingHow PQLs connect product and marketingPerspective on sales assist with PLGExample: AI-assisted lead scoring workflows By the end, you'll know what to measure, what to ignore, and what to fix next so “growth” stops being a vague label and starts being a real operating system. Resources shared in this episode:BSMS 88 - Why founders overestimate PLG, and what VCs should check before investingBSMS 23 - Product led growth vs. sales led growthThe Foundation of a Successful SaaS GTM (Go-to-Market) Strategy T2D3 CMO MasterclassSubmit and vote on our podcast topicsABOUT B2B SAAS MARKETING SNACKSSince 2020, The B2B SaaS Marketing Snacks Podcast has offered software company founders, investors and leadership a fresh source of insights into building a complete and efficient engine for growth.Meet our Marketing Snacks Podcast Hosts: Stijn Hendrikse: Author of T2D3 Masterclass & Book, Founder of KalungiAs a serial entrepreneur and marketing leader, Stijn has contributed to the success of 20+ startups as a C-level executive, including Chief Revenue Officer of Acumatica, CEO of MightyCall, a SaaS contact center solution, and leading the initial global Go-to-Market for Atera, a B2B SaaS Unicorn. Before focusing on startups, Stijn led global SMB Marketing and B2B Product Marketing for Microsoft's Office platform.Brian Graf: CEO of KalungiAs CEO of Kalungi, Brian provides high-level strategy, tactical execution, and business leadership expertise to drive long-term growth for B2B SaaS. Brian has successfully led clients in all aspects of marketing growth, from positioning and messaging to event support, product announcements, and channel-spend optimizations, generating qualified leads and brand awareness for clients while prioritizing ROI. Before Kalungi, Brian worked in television advertising, specializing in business intelligence and campaign optimization, and earned his MBA at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business with a focus in finance and marketing. Visit Kalungi.com to learn more about growing your B2B SaaS company.  

Today's minisode features Chris Degnan, former CRO of Snowflake. In this clip, Chris explains what it really takes to grow with a company as it scales, and why earning your role does not stop once the title changes. He shares how treating every quarter like a 90-day contract, staying open to feedback, and knowing when to shift from grinding in the business to building leaders helped him navigate board pressure and scale through hypergrowth.If you're a sales leader navigating rapid growth, or questioning how to evolve without losing your edge, this is a perspective worth hearing.Chris Degnan is the former Chief Revenue Officer of Snowflake, where he helped build the company from zero to more than $1B in consumption revenue. He is known for his expertise in scaling go-to-market organizations through early-stage ambiguity, enterprise expansion, and consumption-based selling models.Connect with Chris:LinkedInFrom Zero to Billions: How Snowflake Scaled its Go-to-Market Organization by Denise Persson & Chris DegnanResources mentioned:Multiple Myeloma Research Foundation Hosted by five-time CRO John McMahon and Force Management Co-Founder John Kaplan, the Revenue Builders podcast goes behind the scenes with the sales leaders who have been there, done that, and seen the results. This show is brought to you by Force Management. We help companies improve sales performance, executing their growth strategy at the point of sale. Connect with Us: LinkedInYouTubeForce Management

Send us a textOn the latest episode of the Stories to Create podcast, Cornell Bunting sits down with Jacquelyn Mosier—a builder, problem-solver, and someone who's learned to trust her gut, especially when it keeps tapping her on the shoulder about the same issue.Jacquelyn talks about how ForgeOps didn't start as a company—it started as a feeling. Over and over, she watched smart, capable teams struggle. Not because they weren't good at what they did, but because their systems weren't talking to each other. Information got stuck. Hand-offs fell apart. And things quietly went wrong long before anyone noticed the job was off track.She could've ignored that feeling. A lot of people do. But she didn't. She leaned into it—and trusted the right people to help her build something better.That leap led to ForgeOps, where she's now Co-Founder and Chief Revenue Officer. ForgeOps is creating a job coordination operating system that lives where construction meets operations. Jacquelyn's role covers revenue, partnerships, positioning, and investor relationships—but for her, it's about more than numbers. It's about protecting the vision and making sure what they build actually works in the real world.She also shares about Jack-IT Consulting, another company she founded to help businesses cut through the tech noise, choose the right tools, and actually use them. No shelfware. No overcomplicated systems. Just tech that does what it's supposed to do.What really drives her?Seeing patterns others missBuilding with intentionChoosing people over egoTurning intuition into real, working systemsJacquelyn believes the best companies are built when leaders really listen—to the data, to the people in the field, and to themselves.In this episode, she also opens up about growing up in a small town called Shelbyville, Illinois, navigating challenges within her family, and eventually moving to Florida to escape the cold and start fresh.If you're building something meaningful, figuring things out as you grow, or wrestling with problems that don't have easy answers—this conversation is for you. Support the showThank you for tuning in with EHAS CLUB - Stories to Create Podcast

Negotiation and sales are often treated as tactical skills. Something leaders do at the end of the process, armed with tricks, pressure, and leverage. In this conversation, Todd Caponi makes the case that this mindset is outdated—and increasingly damaging for leaders operating in a world of transparency, information abundance, and long-term accountability.Todd draws on his experience as a former Chief Revenue Officer, his deep study of the history of sales and negotiation, and his latest book, Four Levers Negotiating: The Simple, Counterintuitive Way to Higher Deal Values and Lasting Trust, to challenge conventional wisdom about how deals actually get done. His core argument is simple but provocative: people don't make decisions because they're convinced. They decide when they can predict outcomes. And most leadership behaviors unintentionally undermine that predictability.The conversation explores why traditional negotiation tactics—holding cards close, creating artificial urgency, treating the deal as the finish line—erode trust precisely when it matters most. Todd explains how many of these practices emerged from a very different economic era and why they fail in today's interconnected, reputation-driven environment.At the center of the discussion is Todd's Four Levers framework, which reframes negotiation as a leadership system rather than a personality trait. Instead of games and pressure, the framework focuses on transparency, trade-offs, and shared understanding—creating better decisions for both sides and reducing internal friction across leadership teams.This episode is not about becoming a better negotiator in the traditional sense. It's about how leaders create trust, predictability, and long-term value—whether they are working with customers, boards, partners, or their own leadership teams.Actionable TakeawaysYou'll learn why leaders don't win decisions by persuading harder—but by helping others predict outcomes more clearly.Hear how treating the deal as an “early milestone,” rather than the finish line, changes how leaders approach trust and accountability.Discover why many pricing and negotiation conflicts inside organizations have less to do with money and more to do with unclear decision logic.Learn how Todd's Four Levers framework creates flexibility without sacrificing consistency or trust.Hear why fake urgency and short-term pressure often backfire, even when they appear to work in the moment.Explore how transparency speeds up the right decisions while quickly ending the wrong ones.Understand why predictability is an undervalued leadership asset—and how it affects forecasting, resourcing, and alignment.Learn how sharing constraints, rather than hiding them, can turn resistance into partnership.Connect with Todd CaponiTodd Caponi WebsiteTodd Caponi LinkedInFour Levers Negotiating: The Simple, Counterintuitive Way to Higher Deal Values and Lasting Trust Connect with Mahan Tavakoli: Mahan Tavakoli Website Mahan Tavakoli on LinkedIn Partnering Leadership Website

I literally replaced myself with AI, and by that, I mean AI took over my actual job. I've been a professional online direct response marketing copywriter and consultant for the past 26 years, and I handed over all of my marketing to AI. In this video, I show you exactly how I used my new "Chief Revenue Officer" (an AI agent inside oJoy.ai) to take over my entire marketing department. I gave it my 26 years of experience, and then I stepped out of the way. Warning: This is NOT for beginners looking for a "magic button." This strategy only works if you have a real business with actual customers. Chapters: 00:00 - The Replacement: How I fired myself  01:45 - The Audit: What a Marketing Team actually does 05:15 - The "Chief Revenue Officer" Agent 08:45 - The Input: Giving AI my 26 years of data 14:00 - The Campaign: Filtering out the "Lazy People" 17:21 - The Results: 62 Trials from a "failed" experiment 23:00 - The Upsell: How AI found "Free Money" in my funnel

Tom Forsberg is the Chief Revenue Officer at Big Think Capital, where he leads revenue growth across the firm, including its syndication investment platform. As a founding team member, he has been instrumental in shaping the company's success by aligning all revenue-generating departments. Prior to Big Think Capital, Tom was a Sales Manager at a national telecommunications company, consistently earning President's Club recognition. A Bryant University graduate with a Bachelor's degree in Finance, Tom was a Division I lacrosse captain and All-American athlete. He is known for his client-centric approach, commitment to earning trust, and focus on long-term relationships. Outside of work, Tom enjoys wakeboarding, snowboarding, and spending time with family. During the show we discuss: The range of business funding solutions Big Think Capital offers and who they're best suited for How the end-to-end application and approval process works, from intake to funding Typical funding timelines and how quickly businesses can access capital The criteria used to evaluate businesses, including options for less-than-perfect credit How Big Think Capital maintains transparency around rates, fees, and repayment terms How dedicated funding specialists help business owners choose the right product Ongoing support, repeat funding, and preparation for future rounds of capital Resources:https://bigthinkcapital.com/