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Candid sales and marketing insight for the lawn care and landscaping industry. Hosted by Chris Heiler, founder of Landscape Leadership, a digital marketing agency for green industry companies.

Chris Heiler


    • May 12, 2025 LATEST EPISODE
    • infrequent NEW EPISODES
    • 30m AVG DURATION
    • 47 EPISODES


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    Billion Dollar Branding: Lessons for Landscaping Pros

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2025 52:04


    You could run the best lawn care or landscaping company in town... but if your brand looks outdated, confusing, or just plain boring, you're losing business before the first phone call. In this episode, I'm joined by branding expert John Dalton of McFarland Stanford—someone who's helped rebrand billion-dollar companies like FedEx—to talk about the hidden messages your visual branding is sending (and why it matters more than you think). We dive into: Why tree icons and old fonts aren't doing you any favors The simple formula big brands use to create unforgettable impressions How your truck wrap could be accidentally camouflaging your business Practical (and affordable) ways to refresh your brand without rewrapping your whole fleet overnight If you've ever wondered whether your brand is helping or hurting you—or if you've just had that nagging feeling that your 20-year-old logo might be the mullet of marketing—this episode is for you. Ready to make sure your brand is saying the right thing? Hit play.

    Trademarks 101: Safeguard Your Green Industry Brand

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 10, 2025 24:07


    In this episode, we tackle a critical issue for lawn care and landscaping businesses—trademarks. What happens when another company trademarks your business name? It's not just theoretical; it has happened, and the consequences can be devastating. Chad Diller from Landscape Leadership® sits down with trademark attorney, Richard Rimer, to discuss how to protect your brand, avoid costly rebrands, and defend against trademark disputes. Learn what you can and can't trademark, the risks of skipping legal protection, and how to secure your business's future. If you own a green industry business, you need to hear this.

    The Landscaping Sales Kryptonite: Poor Preparation

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 13, 2024 36:35


    You may think you're prepared to sell landscaping to prospects, but you could be losing out. Get expert tips to customize your approach to sell more landscaping with less aggravation. Join 25+ year green industry veteran, Chad Diller and sales trainer, T.M. Dickinson as they share practical advice to connect more deeply with prospective clients and maximize your potential.   Learn about the sales and marketing services Landscape Leadership provides for our clients https://www.landscapeleadership.com/

    How Joshua Tree Experts Grew Lawn Care By Over 1000%

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 18, 2024 20:16


    Joshua Malik ran a successful tree service but was struggling to grow his lawn care business. Fast forward and Joshua Tree Experts has grown by over 1000% and has expanded into multiple states. Join Landscape Leadership's president, Chad Diller, as he gets Josh to share some keys to their amazing success.

    How Over-Diversification of Services Can Hurt Your Brand & Profit

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2023 39:02


    In this episode, Chad Diller and green industry consultant, Jeffrey Scott explore how adding too many services at your lawn care or landscaping company can hurt your brand, profit, and company culture. 

    Using Technology to Pre-Qualify Landscaping Leads

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 23, 2022 36:43


    Are you wasting time as an unpaid landscaping consultant? Find out how these process and technology additions can help you sell more landscaping projects. Visit the Landscape Leadership website for more resources mentioned in this episode. 

    Marketing To & Recruiting Women (for the Green Industry)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2021 40:02


    14 Questions to Find Marketing Agency Expertise (for Lawn & Landscape Companies)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 17, 2021 24:41


    Check out these essential questions to find the best marketing agency for your landscaping or lawn care business. Get an expert vs. a typical partner.

    5 Keys to Content Marketing Success - Marcus Sheridan Interview

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 22, 2021 38:50


    What Lawn Care & Landscaping Companies Should Know About Advertising

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 4, 2021 16:13


    Re-Designing Lawn Care & Landscaping Websites (into Lead Machines) [PODCAST]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 18, 2021 20:10


    Thoughts on Company Names & the Importance of Having a Brand Style Guide

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2021 15:58


    Thoughts on Company Names & the Importance of a Brand Style Guide

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 4, 2021 15:58


    How to Have Content Marketing Success in the Lawn & Landscaping Industry

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 21, 2021 25:29


    Emerging Sales & Marketing Technology: Tools to Sell More Lawn Care & Landscaping [Smarketing Talk S3 E10]

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 12, 2020 35:40


    The Best Ways to Grow a Lawn Care Services Division [Smarketing Talk S3 E9]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 22, 2020 19:39


    What We Learned From Producing 60+ Lawn Care & Landscaping Videos [Smarketing Talk S3 E8]

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 8, 2020 46:29


    Let's Talk About How to Make More While Working Less [Smarketing Talk S3 E1]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 24, 2020 28:45


    In this episode Chris addresses a particular frustration for business owners in the lawn and landscape industry: working too many hours while not making enough money. We discuss: The purpose and reason for operating a business Topline revenue vs. bottom-line profit The concept of Limited Capacity The principles of supply and demand

    Our Best Marketing Advice for Lawn & Landscape Companies Under $1M (What We Got Right & Wrong) [Smarketing Talk S3 E6]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 3, 2020 39:37


    Social Media Then & Now (What We Got Right & Wrong) [Smarketing Talk S3 E5]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 6, 2020 42:43


    Is Your Sales Process Leaving Money On The Table? [Smarketing Talk S3, E4]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 9, 2020 28:15


    The Right (and Wrong!) Ways to Diversify Your Landscaping Services [Smarketing Talk S3, E3]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 4, 2020 36:59


    Lessons in Selling Lawn Care from an $8M Company [Smarketing Talk S3 E2]

    Play Episode Listen Later May 18, 2020 27:32


    Thoughtful vs. Thoughtless Content; and, How to Leverage Content Internally [Smarketing Talk S3 E1]

    Play Episode Listen Later May 7, 2020 32:35


    In this episode of Smarketing Talk we discuss content marketing for lawn care and landscaping companies with a test if it's thoughtful or thoughtless.

    Practical Sales & Marketing Advice for Lawn and Landscape Companies During This Pandemic [Smarketing Talk]

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 6, 2020 49:45


    Chris Heiler, CEO, and Chad Diller, Director of Client Success, of Landscape Leadership offer up some timely, practical sales and marketing advice landscape industry professionals will find valuable during these trying and unusual times.

    7 Big Mistakes Companies are STILL Making When it Comes to SEO [Smarketing Talk S1 E7]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2016 28:24


    Lawn and landscape industry companies are still making some basic, but big, mistakes when it comes to SEO. We dive into those in this episode of SmarketingTalk.

    Social Media for Landscapers & Lawn Care Companies [Smarketing Talk S1 E6]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2016 28:53


    Using social media to market your lawn and landscape industry business. Tips for using Facebook, Instagram and Twitter for landscapers and lawn care companies.

    If I Were Your Marketing Director, Here's What I Would Do [Smarketing Talk S1 E5]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 13, 2016 34:47


    I was just hired as the marketing director for your landscaping company. What will my first six months look like? How will I convince my boss to do what I want to do?

    B2B vs B2C Marketing in the Lawn & Landscape Industry [Smarketing Talk S1 E4]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 29, 2016 32:57


    There's a big difference in how you market your services in the lawn & landscape industry depending on the audience you serve, residential or commercial (B2B).

    Using Professional Video and Photography in Your Marketing [Smarketing Talk S1 E3]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 22, 2016 34:54


    In this episode of Smarketing Talk we discuss the best ways to use professional video and photography when marketing your lawn and landscape industry company. We talk best practices and discuss the cost of hiring a professional videographer and photographer.

    Best Practices for Hiring a Marketing Agency [Smarketing Talk S1 E2]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 16, 2016 33:39


    There is much to consider when hiring a marketing agency. When should you hire an agency? How much will an agency cost? How do you find a good one?

    Hiring Marketing Help In-House [Smarketing Talk S1 E1]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2016 31:58


    In this episode we discuss the pros and cons of hiring full-time marketing help in-house. What should the role look like? What skills and experience are required? What about compensation?

    An Update From My Time Away (and 3 Mistakes I've Made) [Smarketing Talk Ep. 15]

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 1, 2016 18:32


    It's supposed to be liberating talking about our mistakes. At least that's what I've heard. In this podcast I share three mistakes and lessons learned over the last six months while I've been away from the "podcast booth".

    The Differences in Marketing to Companies vs Homeowners [Smarketing Talk Ep. 14]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 22, 2015 33:28


    In this episode we go deep into the differences between effective B2B and B2C marketing strategies.

    Tips to Get Started With CRM Software [Smarketing Talk Ep. 13]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 15, 2015 28:38


    In this episode we talk about getting started with CRM software by discussing the five most important questions you need to ask when researching software.

    How to Set SMART Marketing & Sales Goals [Smarketing Talk Ep. 12]

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 1, 2015 24:35


    In this episode we talk about the SMART framework for setting actionable and achievable marketing and sales goals for your green industry company.

    Measuring the Value & ROI of Content Marketing [Smarketing Talk Ep. 11]

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 25, 2015 24:41


    In this episode we dive into the benefits of investing in content marketing and the expectations you should have in your investment.

    The 9 Most Important SEO Tasks You Can (& Should) Do In-House

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 11, 2015 27:49


    In this episode we breakdown the nine most important tasks related to search engine optimization that you should be handling in-house.

    Bigger, Faster, Stronger: My Thoughts on Scaling a Landscaping Business

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 4, 2015 27:26


    Scaling a business is about achieving predictable annual growth by putting the right people, processes and technology in place. In this episode we discuss five marketing and sales related necessities for scaling your landscaping business.

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    How to Turn Your Website Into a Recruiting Machine [Smarketing Talk Ep. 8]

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 8, 2015 32:08


    Inbound Recruiting... Get to know that phrase. In this episode of Smarketing Talk I introduce you to Inbound Recruiting and explain five basic steps that will allow you to turn your website into a recruiting machine.

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    If You Suck at Marketing...You Can't Just Ignore It [Smarketing Talk Ep. 7]

    Play Episode Listen Later May 12, 2015 24:56


    In this episode we talk about podcasting for lawn and landscaping industry companies and get into a discussion on hiring marketing help. Should you hire in-house or go the agency route?

    SEO For Landscapers and Lawn Care Pros [Smarketing Talk Ep. 6]

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 15, 2015 24:59


    In this episode we dive into some real talk about search engine optimization (SEO) for landscapers, lawn care companies and others in the green industry.

    Attracting Buyers With Content Marketing [Smarketing Talk Ep. 5]

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 6, 2015 30:24


    Chris Heiler discusses investing vs. spending on marketing tactics for your landscape business. He also discusses how to attract leads to your website with the Big 5 blog posts - and the astounding results companies have experienced by including them in their inbound marketing strategy.

    Smarketing Talk Ep. 4: Houzz for Your Landscaping Business and How to Measure the Success of Your Blog

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 9, 2015 24:26


    Is social media worth the time and money? Should it be part of your landscaping company's marketing strategy in 2015? We dive into this question as well as the ROI of the niche social network Houzz. We also talk about how to measure the success of your landscaping blog. 

    3 Subjects Lawn Care and Landscaping Companies are Scared to Write About

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 17, 2014 30:40


    In this episode of Smarketing Talk we dive into two emerging inbound marketing trends for 2015 and discuss three subjects lawn care and landscaping companies are reluctant to discuss on their websites.

    Smarketing Talk Ep. 2: Getting Buy-In (and Budget) and Using Age as a Crutch

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 19, 2014 22:49


    In this episode Chris recommends two apps for your business, talks about the challenges of getting buy-in as it relates to inbound marketing and rants about folks who use age as a crutch when it comes to adopting technology and new ways of doing business. 

    Episode 1 - GIC 2014 Wrap Up and How Consumer Habits Have Changed

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 28, 2014 24:08


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