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Chef Robotics has produced 80 million meals—more than all other food robotics companies combined. The company has cracked what dozens of well-funded startups couldn't: profitable deployment of AI-enabled robots in food manufacturing. In this episode of BUILDERS, Rajat Bhageria, Founder and CEO of Chef Robotics, reveals why he focused on manufacturing before restaurants, how a single contract term change accelerated his sales cycle, and why the food assembly problem requires intelligence that traditional automation can't provide. This is category creation in real-time, with expansion to Germany and the UK planned for 2026. Topics Discussed: Why 60-70% of commercial food labor is in assembly, not cooking or prep The systematic failures of B2C robotics companies (Zume) versus B2B approaches (Miso Robotics) Chef's manufacturing-first strategy to build training data and field operations scale Why six-axis robots with vision outperform gravity-fed dispensers for food variability Reframing contract structure from "site acceptance test" to "trial" for faster closes Trade show strategy: multiple robots across partner booths, not just your own The economics of robotics-as-a-service in traditionally capex-driven industries GTM Lessons For B2B Founders: Validate unit economics before building in hardware: Rajat secured early contracts before engineering anything. This wasn't just customer validation—it was economic validation. He identified that robotics companies fail when "they're trying to charge a human salary, but they're not able to provide the full set of tasks that a human is able to do in an eight hour shift." By selling first, Chef confirmed customers would pay for assembly automation specifically, not a general-purpose kitchen robot. For hard tech founders: pre-selling de-risks both product-market fit AND your business model assumptions. Target the labor concentration point, not the obvious automation opportunity: While competitors automated cooking (low labor intensity), Chef mapped the entire food production workflow and discovered assembly consumed 60-70% of labor hours. Rajat's insight: "One person can cook for 100 people or a thousand people. So even though the cooking process can take a while, you're amortizing it over a lot of people." This workflow analysis revealed where ROI actually existed. Founders should map labor distribution across their customer's entire operation, not just automate the most visible or technically interesting task. Build your moat through training data and field operations density: Chef's manufacturing focus isn't just about easier sales—it's strategic infrastructure. Rajat explained: "Today, Chef has done 80 million meals...If we can be really good at food manipulation, we have the biggest data set of training data...as we build more robots, our bill of material gets lower...We have people all over the country servicing these robots, which obviously those same people can service robots in restaurants." For AI-enabled hardware, your moat compounds through deployment volume, not just product features. Reframe risk through contract structure, not just pricing: Chef's breakthrough wasn't discounting—it was renaming their "site acceptance test" to a "trial." Rajat described the impact: "Literally exactly the same thing. It's kind of like you go to your Google Doc and you replace all SAT into trial. That has an immense impact on the sales velocity." The cognitive reframing transformed how buyers perceived commitment risk. For founders selling novel technology: audit your contract language for terms that trigger buyer risk aversion, even when the underlying mechanics protect them. Trade show ROI multiplies through partner booth placement: Rather than maximizing their own booth presence, Chef places robots in partner booths across the trade show floor. Rajat noted this approach yields more deal closures because "the champions saw the thing at the trade show." This isn't about lead volume—it's about removing skepticism. Manufacturing buyers don't believe flexible automation exists until they see it operating. For hard tech companies: distribute proof points across the physical spaces where your skeptical buyers already congregate. Customer success IS your market education strategy: In a nascent category with a "graveyard" of failed predecessors, Chef's market education relies entirely on reference customers. Cafe Spice scaled from 4 to 16 robots and now hosts prospective customer visits. Rajat's approach: give exceptional pricing to customers willing to become advocates. The conversion rate from a skeptical prospect visiting a working deployment far exceeds any other marketing channel. For category creators: your unit economics on early lighthouse customers should account for their sales force value, not just their revenue. // Sponsors: Front Lines — We help B2B tech companies launch, manage, and grow podcasts that drive demand, awareness, and thought leadership. www.FrontLines.io The Global Talent Co. — We help tech startups find, vet, hire, pay, and retain amazing marketing talent that costs 50-70% less than the US & Europe. www.GlobalTalent.co // Don't Miss: New Podcast Series — How I Hire Senior GTM leaders share the tactical hiring frameworks they use to build winning revenue teams. Hosted by Andy Mowat, who scaled 4 unicorns from $10M to $100M+ ARR and launched Whispered to help executives find their next role. Subscribe here: https://open.spotify.com/show/53yCHlPfLSMFimtv0riPyM
Welcome to the first Sharp Cut from The Sleeping Barber Podcast — a tighter, opinion-led format designed to challenge marketing's most persistent assumptions. In this episode, Vassilis and Marc take on one of the industry's most widely accepted beliefs: one-to-one personalization.Despite overwhelming surveys claiming consumers want personalization and businesses need it, the evidence tells a very different story. Drawing on peer-reviewed research from Ehrenberg-Bass, MIT, Melbourne Business School, Nielsen, and the Journal of Advertising Research, this Sharp Cut separates belief from evidence.They unpack why personalization systems are built on inaccurate data, why targeting errors compound rather than optimize, why click-through rates are meaningless, and how narrow targeting actively undermines growth by excluding future buyers.Most importantly, they outline what actually works: reach, creative quality, mental availability, contextual relevance, and proper experimentation.If you care about effectiveness over mythology, this episode is for you.Chapters:00:00 - Introduction04:13 - Beliefs vs. Evidence07:48 - The Targeting Effectiveness Evidence11:07 - The Compound Problem12:54 - The Measurement Illusion14:47 - The Hidden cost of Narrow Targeting17:21 - What Actually Works20:00 - Our Final TakeKeyKey TakeawaysPersonalization is widely believed, not well proven. Most supporting stats come from surveys and vendor case studies, not controlled experiments.Data accuracy is poor. Identity and attribute targeting accuracy often ranges between 32–69%, with many segments no better than a coin flip.Targeting errors compound. Stacking multiple “precise” attributes multiplies mistakes, not accuracy—often reaching less than 15% of the intended audience.Third-party targeting performs no better than random. This holds true in both B2C and B2B contexts, even for senior decision-makers.CTR is a vanity metric.Studies show click-through rates have near-zero correlation with brand outcomes or ROI.Narrow targeting hurts growth. It focuses spend on the ~5% in-market while excluding the 95% who drive future demand.What works instead:Reach over precisionContext over profileFirst-party data for retention, not acquisitionCreative as the real targeting leverMeasurement tied to business outcomesControlled testing with holdouts
How do you move from shipping features to building a product vision that actually drives growth? In this podcast hosted by Huntress Director of Product Nisarg Desai, American Express Vice President of Product Management Jose Quesada shares how he approaches product vision and strategy for one of the world's most scaled B2C platforms. Jose breaks down the difference between vision and strategy, how to ground ambitious north stars in execution, and what it takes to turn product thinking into a durable growth engine.
Send us a textIn this episode, AMEC's CEO Johna Burke joins host Jason Mudd to discuss the Barcelona Principles 4.0 and PR measurement best practices.Tune in to learn more!Meet Our Guest:Our episode guest is Johna Burke, CEO and Global Managing Director at the International Association for the Measurement and Evaluation of Communication (AMEC). With more than 30 years of experience in marketing, PR, communications, and strategy for B2B and B2C organizations, Johna is a global leader in communication measurement and evaluation and a sought-after speaker on PR, media relations, and metrics.Five things you'll learn from this episode:1. The 7 Barcelona Principles Explained2. How to apply the Barcelona Principles 4.0 to measure and evaluate PR effectiveness across channels3. How AMEC's Integrated Evaluation Framework can guide planning, measurement, and reporting in your organization4. Practical ways to use data ethically to build credibility, trust, and impact in communications5. How professional development and resources from AMEC can strengthen measurement skills and PR strategy Quotables“When we looked at the Barcelona Principles, because they were rooted in best practice, a lot of them are just making them clearer statements.” — Johna Burke"Supporting the Barcelona Principles, being compliant, helps communicators make a greater value to their organization and gives credibility and reliability to their data." — Johna Burke“It gives you the planning elements, and it is a fill in the text box for what you are doing, starting with your objective and going through to put your activities, your outputs, the outcome, so that when you use this with your team and you put everything in the framework, it also helps you understand which efforts are paid, earned, shared, and owned.” — Johna Burke“Use it as the planning tool as much as you use it as a measurement tool, which arguably, if you're doing measurement effectively, you need to have good concrete planning in place to have those well-defined objectives to know and understand what's working and what's not working.” — Johna BurkeIf you enjoyed this episode, please take a moment to share it with a colleague or friend. You may also support us through Buy Me a Coffee or by leaving us a quick podcast review.More About Johna BurkeJohna Burke, CEO and Global Managing Director at the International Association for the Measurement and Evaluation of Communication (AMEC), has more than 30 years of experience driving results in marketing, public relations, investor relations, general management, communications, strategy, and operations for B2B and B2C organizations. She is an expert in strategic planning, analytics, research, business growth, and operational efficiency and is a national and international speaker on PR, media relations, measurement, social media, and metrics. With over 20 years of focused experience in B2B and B2C marketing and public relations, Johna is recognized globally for her leadership in communication measuSupport the show On Top of PR is produced by Axia Public Relations, named by Forbes as one of America's Best PR Agencies. Axia is an expert PR firm for national brands. On Top of PR is sponsored by ReviewMaxer, the platform for monitoring, improving, and promoting online customer reviews.
The Builder Circle by Pratik: The Hardware Startup Success Podcast
Christian Reed, CEO of Reekon Tools, shares how he bootstrapped a hardware company from a side project to a multi-million dollar (8 figure) business without any VC funding. Learn how a $1.2M Kickstarter campaign validated his digital tape measure, the manufacturing lessons from his time at Formlabs, and how 30 minutes of daily social media posting built a 3 million-follower audience.Key Topics:Turning a side project into a viable business through Kickstarter validationWhy bootstrapping forces better discipline than VC fundingFinding and vetting contract manufacturers as a startupBuilding 3M+ social media followers with consistency and raw contentOvercoming user adoption challenges in traditional construction industryHardware horror story: When your chip supplier's factory literally burns downWhy engineers need to think like entrepreneurs, not just inventorsWhat You'll Learn:How to scale hardware manufacturing without VC backingProven social media strategies for B2C hardware productsThe importance of focusing on product benefits over featuresWhy marketing is often harder than engineering in hardwareHow to build authentic brand presence in traditional industriesConnect & Learn More:Follow the show's Substack for hardware tools, frameworks, and tips: https://substack.com/@thebuildercircleReach out to our LinkedIn Page if you have any topics you'd like for us to do a deep dive in!Music by: Tom StokeDISCLAIMER Creators of this show are independent and not affiliated with or endorsed by any other company. All views expressed are solely those of the guests. Content is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal, financial, or any professional advice. Listeners are responsible for their own decisions and should consult qualified professionals. By listening, you agree we are not liable for any outcomes.
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Chris Earley discuss:Treating consistency as the real competitive edgeBuilding trust through authenticity over achievementMatching platforms to where your audience already livesPlaying the long game of value before promotion Key Takeaways:Showing up every day with content is not a tactic but the game itself. One post a day over time compounds into trust, visibility, and separation. Most lawyers will not endure the discipline, which is precisely why it works.Audiences respond more to struggle, growth, and honesty than polished wins. Sharing mistakes, personal history, and lessons humanizes the professional brand. Credibility grows faster when vulnerability comes before accomplishment.Effective content starts by knowing who you serve and where they spend their attention. B2B audiences tend to gather on LinkedIn, while B2C clients live elsewhere. Posting everywhere is fine, but focus belongs where attention already flows.Education, insight, and generosity must outweigh direct selling over time. Promotion works only after value has been delivered consistently and visibly. Your brand strengthens when service leads and asks follow. “I think the practitioner should be posting, if you really want to get serious, once a day on LinkedIn… One post. Can you do that for a year and stick with that? I've done that for like four or five years, and the flywheel just expands." — Chris Earley Check out my new show, Be That Lawyer Coaches Corner, and get the strategies I use with my clients to win more business and love your career again. Ready to go from good to GOAT in your legal marketing game? Don't miss PIMCON—where the brightest minds in professional services gather to share what really works. Lock in your spot now: https://www.pimcon.org/ Thank you to our Sponsor!Rankings.io: https://rankings.io/ Ready to grow your law practice without selling or chasing? Book your free 30-minute strategy session now—let's make this your breakout year: https://fretzin.com/ About Chris Earley: Christopher Earley is a Boston-based personal injury attorney and founder of Earley Law Group Injury Lawyers, where he has devoted nearly two decades to advocating for injury victims and standing up to powerful insurance companies. He holds a J.D. from New England Law (2004) and is admitted to practice in Massachusetts. Chris is also an accomplished author of multiple consumer guides, a legal columnist for the American Bar Association and Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly, and a frequent speaker on law firm business topics. His work has earned recognition, including multiple Massachusetts Super Lawyer honors. Beyond law, he serves his community through youth sports coaching and local partnerships, all while emphasizing clear communication, client education, and relentless advocacy. Connect with Chris Earley: Website: https://www.chrisearley.com/Justia Lawyers: https://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/christopher-earley-1335943YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/ChrisEarleyLawTwitter: https://twitter.com/chrisearleylawFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/Law-Offices-of-Christopher-Earley-104980886333/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/earleylawgroupinjurylawyers/ Connect with Steve Fretzin:LinkedIn: Steve FretzinTwitter: @stevefretzinInstagram: @fretzinsteveFacebook: Fretzin, Inc.Website: Fretzin.comEmail: Steve@Fretzin.comBook: Legal Business Development Isn't Rocket Science and more!YouTube: Steve FretzinCall Steve directly at 847-602-6911 Audio production by Turnkey Podcast Productions. You're the expert. Your podcast will prove it.
How Performance-First B2B Marketing Drives Better Results Traditional B2B marketing and advertising are undergoing a major transformation in the age of AI and rapid technological advancement. With shifting market dynamics and budget cuts across B2B organizations, marketing teams are under pressure to do more with less and prove their impact on business performance and revenue growth. How can B2B marketers quickly adapt, demonstrate ROI, and establish a strategic role within their organizations? That's why we're talking to Keith Turco (CEO, Madison Logic), who shares insights and proven strategies on how performance-first B2B marketing drives better results. During our conversation, Keith explored the evolving B2B marketing landscape and explained why performance-first strategies are crucial in times of market changes and budget cuts. He emphasized the importance of data-driven insights to measure ROI, optimize media plans, and tailor messages to specific target audiences. Keith also highlighted the need for a full-funnel approach that leverages AI-powered personalization at scale, and integrating new channels like audio and video. Additionally, he elaborated on why understanding both personal and professional interests of buyers to shorten sales cycles and build brand affinity are essential. Keith stressed the value of creativity in performance marketing to maintain loyalty and differentiate top marketers. Tune in as he also shared some key findings of research conducted by Madison Logic and The Harris Poll on the future of advertising and the impact of AI on B2B marketing. https://youtu.be/DAYcJf7AlIs Topics discussed in episode: [2:09] How macroeconomic shifts and budget cuts are creating a “performance-first” approach. [6:12] Embracing AI: Moving from a reactive to a proactive stance in advertising. [9:50] The consumerization of B2B: Why your next lead might come from a podcast or TikTok. [13:15] The full-funnel advantage: Moving beyond fragmented tactics to a more unified data strategy. [17:34] Communicating with the C-Suite vs. managers: Tailoring content for different “states of mind”. [22:27] Research insights: Why 73% of leaders see AI as the future of creative production. [32:12] Why abandoning brand for “just the facts” performance marketing is a mistake. Companies and links mentioned: Keith Turco on LinkedIn Madison Logic Transcript Keith Turco, Christian Klepp Christian Klepp 00:01 In the age of rapid technological developments in AI, traditional B2B, marketing and advertising are witnessing monumental changes with shifting market dynamics and budget cuts across B2B organizations, marketing teams will have to do more with less. So how can they achieve this and still be instrumental to organizational success? Welcome to this episode of the B2B Marketers on a Mission podcast, and I’m your host, Christian Klepp, today I’ll be talking to Keith Turco, who will be answering this question. He’s the CEO of Madison Logic, which leads global account based marketing initiatives to help revenue driven marketers accelerate buying journeys with targeted, measurable strategies. Tune in to find out more about what this B2B marketer’s mission is. Okay, and here we are. Mr. Keith Turco, welcome to the show. Keith Turco 00:50 Thank you, Christian. Good to see you. Christian Klepp 00:53 Likewise, likewise. We had a great pre-interview conversation, and I’m really looking forward to this conversation. We got to buckle up a little bit, because there’s a lot to cover. There’s a lot to cover, but I think it’s going to be really interesting, relevant and pertinent to all those B2B marketers out there. So let’s, let’s dive right in. Keith Turco 01:11 Great. Excited to be here. Christian Klepp 01:12 All right, so Keith, you’re on a mission to help B2B companies succeed by delivering performance-first strategies across the full marketing funnel and performance-first, I think, is going to be a word or a term that we’re going to hear throughout this conversation, but for this conversation, let’s focus on a topic and unpack it from there, so it’s how B2B marketing teams can rapidly adapt to market changes and contribute to organizational success. So let me set this up a little bit, because that sounds like. that sounds a little bit generic. But you know, after after the description, I think people will understand what I’m talking about. So your company, Madison Logic, helps clients own the buying journey by creating lasting impact at every interaction with high value buying groups through data driven ABM. So let’s start off with this question, how have shifting macroeconomic conditions and budget cuts forced B2B marketing teams to do more with less? Keith Turco 02:09 Well inherent in the conversation, or the question is you’ve got less budget. You’ve seen lots of cuts come through either from a staff cutting perspective, you’ve got less people to help you execute against things, as well as less budget to spend on marketing. So what does that mean, and what are the implications? And how does our technology and our approach to market help. Everything from a performance first perspective allows things to be measured, and because you can measure, you can quickly calculate ROI, you can quickly optimize your your media plans, and you can also take a look at what your creative is and isn’t working and what’s working through from a content based perspective. So when you take a performance-first approach to your marketing initiatives, you have all the data at your fingertips to give you the insights and intelligence you need in order to hit the right targets and the right buying groups with the right message at the right time, and give you what you need to actually, really measure the impact and optimize on a regular basis to to prove the ROI that you’re trying to prove for the organization and support sales. Christian Klepp 03:19 Yeah, no, absolutely. And you touched on a lot of things there, which I think are going to be a to be things that are going to come up throughout this conversation. So things like calculating ROI, being able to measure. I mean, who doesn’t want to do that in the world of B2B, right? But how do you see a performance based approach? And I suppose that’s the next question. How does a performance based approach help companies to adapt to, well, a lot of these market changes, and I know that’s a bit of an understatement, because market changes, it’s so broad and multifaceted, but how does it help to address these changes? Keith Turco 03:51 First and foremost, I think access to data allows you to test and learn, what’s working, what’s not, against what buying groups. I kind of mentioned it a couple of minutes ago. But if you’re looking at what’s working against which target segment, what messages make the most sense, what content are they looking for? And then on top of that, you have a buying group. Each of those groups contain multiple levels of executives and employees. So are they all consuming the same message. Can you sub segment that buying group into different categories that consume different content, that allow them to actually understand the full picture that you’re trying to communicate? And then obviously prove out ROI? I think the other thing prove out ROI is a big statement. What does that mean? What are the KPIs? They’re different for each customer that’s out there, right? So what does ROI mean to one organization versus the other? And by allowing yourself to test and learn and gain the insights that you you’re looking for, you can prove out ROI in different ways. Ultimately, the ultimate ROI is reflected in sales, right? But. Some clients will work with us on visits to website. Other clients will work with us on appointment setting. Other clients will look at, you know, number of interactions. And then lastly, of course, looking at ROI from a sale based perspective and what they’re selling, Christian Klepp 05:18 Absolutely, absolutely. And we’re certainly going to talk about the buying committee a little bit later on in this conversation. The time of this recording is at the end of 2025 and you know, I have to ask you the question about AI, and I know you your company has done some research about that, and we will look into that a little bit further on. But because you’re talking about accessing data and analyzing and aggregating data, and how does, how has technological advancements, also in the form of artificial intelligence, perhaps help that process, but also threatened B2B marketing in a way? Keith Turco 05:56 I don’t think I ever view it as threatening. I’ll always look at AI as a form of enhancement and allowance to optimize and go to market. I think probably a future question you’re going to ask, I might actually jump to it as well from an AI perspective. Keith Turco 06:12 But the impact of AI on advertising and marketing, and how is it playing a role in performance marketing? AI allows itself and lends itself to really impact performance marketing, having been and being been at, and being a fan of and student of advertising. To me, I think that AI allows us to lean in a bit more. I think we should continue to ask ourselves those questions. But the core approach from the creative side of things will still be there. What AI will allow us to do in the performance marketing world is lean into what I was referring to earlier, which is test and learn. What messages based on which audience. How do I sub segment, buying groups? How do I sub segment, even some of those additional segments, and in an effort to not spend so much time adapting creative to those sub segments or geographies or different business units inside an organization, right so each of those things allows, or would benefit from having a much more tailored approach to communications and AI should be leveraged from that perspective to lean into those kinds of things, helping you with testing and learning, helping you with sub segmenting, helping you with geographical segmentation, business unit segmentation, those kinds of things, you know, there’s multiple BU’s that are buying groups inside of a large technology organization, right? So to message them all the same would kind of be silly. Christian Klepp 06:12 Please, please. Christian Klepp 07:48 Absolutely, absolutely. Yeah, perhaps the better. But the better term, as opposed to saying threatening, is, how is it impacted B2B marketing might be a might be a better way of looking at it. Keith Turco 07:57 Yeah, I think, I think exactly that point, right? It’s impacting everything. But what I challenge everybody, when they say, oh, AI is going to threaten or kill or do, is like, Well, how do you embrace it, and how do you give it a hug, and how do you leverage it to evolve your approach from a marketing perspective, versus to get nervous about it and be more proactive instead of reactive in your approach to AI? Christian Klepp 08:23 Absolutely, absolutely so based on what you’ve said, like, what would you say are some of the key pitfalls that B2B marketing teams should avoid, and what should they be doing instead? Keith Turco 08:32 Really understanding what their ROI is, who the buying groups are? I know we keep coming back to that, right? But I think B2B marketers are also really focused on what their BDRs are up to and what kind of lead generation they can they can provide to their sales organizations. And I’d say go a bit further than that, right? It’s not just lead generation from a content syndication perspective, it’s a full funnel multimedia approach. We talk about this also, I think, in upcoming questions Christian because we prepped for the meeting, but the buying group is 7 to 10 people, and are you hitting the right people at the right time with the right message? So I think it’s important to take a look back at certain aspects of how you’re approaching your your marketing initiatives as you really unpack the strategy and look at things I don’t know if I answered the question though. Christian Klepp 09:38 Yeah. I mean, it’s basically about like, you know, these are the things that B2B marketers should be paying attention to. These are some of the things that they should be avoiding, right? And keeping the conversation constructive, as it were. Keith Turco 09:50 Yeah, and I think it’s important to set the KPIs for campaigns, optimize your media plans, and then multimedia, when I talk about that, specifically, multi-format. We’ve talked about what channels in the B2B space that might not have been tapped in the past, should be tapped, right? Some of the research we’ve done with with Harris poll also talked about the consumerization of the B2B space. So what mediums working in the B2C space that we can move over to the B2B space, which is why you’ll see that we launched audio earlier this year in our platform. But video is obviously a big play as well. So the B2B space is leaning into the TikToks and YouTubes of the world as well as audio. So video and audio are also mediums. I think it’s important for the B2B landscape to take a look at. I guess we’ve dubbed it B2B2C. Right at the end of the day, we’re all people that are consuming media, making business decision. Christian Klepp 10:54 Absolutely, absolutely. And I’m sure you’ve come across this camp, because I certainly have that basically, really want to draw that line in the sand and say, No, you know, that’s not transferable. You can’t use those same tactics in B2C, I tend to disagree, because it, like you said, like, it really, it really depends. It really depends also on the vertical you’re talking about. And going back again to who are we targeting with this, right? And that might be also you brought it up, one of the pitfalls is, like, you know, the lack of understanding of who you’re targeting. Because in B2B, it tends to be people in that buying group, right? Keith Turco 11:30 I think it’s important to recognize, you talked about tactics. Which tactics are people consuming and in a previous life, in a previous world, we called it the at work state of mind. And I think in the post covid era, you don’t work nine to five anymore, right? So when we talk about tactics and understanding your target and bringing those two things together, I might be on the treadmill in the morning listening to a podcast, still thinking about work, right? It’s not because I’m not at a desk or in the office anymore. Where should I hit them and why? And I think it’s important as we look at firmographics, we should also look at personal demographics of the buyers and the business decision makers. And, you know, marrying both demographics and firmographics will help figure out what the optimal media mix is. So on the drive to work, on the treadmill or the elliptical right, watching a video, listening to a podcast, you know, multi screen. So obviously, I’m sitting here with you with my phone in one hand, a big screen to the right on the other, and looking at my laptop. So, you know, people that multitask and/or consume different ways on different screens at different day parts. So it’s a combination of consumer and B2B, and the melding of the two come together, understanding that it’s not just a tactic B2B tactic play, but it’s a it’s a personal demographic in that decision maker and where they are. Christian Klepp 13:01 Yeah, yeah. No, that’s absolutely right. In our previous conversation, Keith, you talked about how the full funnel approach is critical in the B2B space. So please share with us what you would like more people to understand about this approach. Keith Turco 13:15 Yeah, I think I’ll talk about it from a Madison Logic perspective in particular. So from an activity based perspective, full funnel activity allows us to measure holistically and easier. You can absolutely measure it in a… there could be full funnel, but fragmented full funnel versus one system full funnel, which is Madison Logic’s full funnel, we partner with agencies and clients alike, to do some tactics in our funnel and some tactics outside of our funnel. Either way, full funnel is critical, because you need to hit 7 to 10 times to 7 to 10 buyers. So that’s a minimum of 50 communications that go out there, whether it’s inside a single platform, like Madison Logic or in combination with other platforms outside. So we can do both, and we work with both. The reason why we like full funnel in in our platform is that, again, it comes down to insights, intelligence and data. We’re not saying that your entire media spend should be spent in our funnel, but showing a full funnel activity of audio, display, CTV, content syndication allows us to gather the insights that you’re looking for, the data that you’re looking for, that then allows you to optimize your media mix, either inside of our funnel or next to our funnel in conjunction with it. Some of our clients will, you know, leverage our content syndication only. Others will do content syndication and display, but still by audio and video outside of it, and then others will do all for what we’re being leveraged for specifically is inside of a smaller subset, which is a test and learn, we can show which media mix works optimally against which segments and which targets by client, and then our agency partners, or our clients in particular, will take that media mix and then apply it to their entire media spend. So that’s what when we talk about full funnel, it’s also guaranteeing overlap at the account level and the individual level inside of our funnel. So it’s important that data is collected and then leveraged in a larger way. Christian Klepp 15:31 I hope I’m not trying to oversimplify what you just explained. But the way that I understand also like full funnel approach, the reason why you recommend that approach is also because of the way that people consume content differently and meeting them where they’re at, and also because we know that the buying committee, and we’ve all seen the diagrams, right? Like the diagrams of how the B2B sales envision, the target audience to assume to consume the content and the way they really do. And it’s really a haphazard diagram, isn’t it? Keith Turco 16:00 It’s no longer linear, right? Christian Klepp 16:04 No. Keith Turco 16:04 I think we approached it that way, but we’re finally admitting that it’s not. And I think your point’s really great in so much as you know, full funnel and buying groups, and again, there are groups, but each each group consists of 7 to 10 people that have different media consumption habits, so it’s important to hit them where where they are, and understanding that, and allowing, if you do a multi channel approach with us and we collect the data, we can say these sub segments of your buying group are consuming media on video, display and email. This sub segment is consuming on display video and content syndication, right? So it allows us to really provide the insights and intelligence needed to optimize the reduced spend that you have to better garner the ROI that you’re looking for. Christian Klepp 17:02 Yeah, yeah. No, exactly, exactly. You’ve talked about it a little bit already, but like we know that in B2B, we’re mostly dealing with, as you said, a buying committee consisting of anywhere between 7 to 10 people. They all have different roles and responsibilities, different motivations for either using or not using said service provider or said approach. So how can teams implement, I would say B2B marketing initiatives that strategically address the buying committee’s concerns and questions. Keith Turco 17:34 It’s really gaining… I keep on going back to the same two words, and I apologize if I sound repetitive, right? But the insights and intelligence are critical to understand the buying groups, what they’re looking for. Let’s dissect it a little bit, right? So if you were to look at the top of the buying group chain, you’ve got C suite executives. Those C suite executives consume media in very different ways because they have very different schedules and are on the road quite a lot, so they’ll be listening to podcasts more than they’ll be watching a CTV kind of application that most will probably want to watch on a bigger screen versus a smaller screen, right? So it’s understanding which businesses decision makers are interested in what categories, right? So you’ve got C suite that sit across multiple views. You’ve got manager levels that are really focused on one specific business unit that will play very differently than, and the messaging to them will play very differently than a C suite person that is across multiple and then they tend to consume media in very different ways, both as individual people as well as from a professional standpoint. The more busy road runner type consumes media and snippets. And you know, we also talk about thumb stopping creative and thumb stopping messaging, because we know that they’re on their phones more than they are on an iPad or a laptop. So the insights that you get from that and the intelligence that you get from that data collection will help you be that much more effective when targeting different individuals inside of a buying group. Christian Klepp 19:16 And it’s also, I would say, about trying to close that trust cap, right? Because there is especially B2B, there’s this whole notion of like, people tend to trust slower, for lack of a better description. So there’s that effort, through that approach, to try to like, build that trust, build that credibility. Because it does take time. This isn’t something where you know they have to make a decision in 48 hours, right? It takes, it takes much longer. Keith Turco 19:42 And I think important, when you close the trust gap, you shorten the sales cycle. So when you shorten the sales cycle, it’s much quicker route, quicker route to ROI, that’s proven by both the marketing and sales team. So the quicker the trust gap is closed, the quicker the cycle happens. Christian Klepp 19:59 Exactly, exactly so. And based on that, like, what role does a performance based approach play in winning over the different members of the buying committee? And you’ve touched on some of these aspects already. Keith Turco 20:13 Again, that the knowledge that you gain from performance based approaches. Everything is measurable, right? Let’s pause for half a second there when we talk about performance marketing, which is obviously next gen of… it started as database marketing and then went into one to one marketing, and then it went into digital marketing, and now it’s performance marketing, because everything is measurable, the insights you collect from that absolutely make a difference, whereas traditional old school advertising of the 70s, 80s and even somewhat 90s was, let’s just hit them with a big message, right? I think it’s important to talk about performance marketing being branded response. Everything you do should both build a brand and elicit a response. So we’re not saying performance marketing at the risk of neglecting branding. We’re saying performance marketing inclusive of branding in the marketplace, so the loyalty and familiarity come to play. Christian Klepp 21:17 Yes, yes, exactly. I was going to say, if you were going to throw a brand out the window like Don Draper would come back and say, Hey, man… Keith Turco 21:25 Absolutely not. Brand is critical, because you are obviously to your point play on the loyalty side, right? And you know, affinity plays a big role in previous experience with existing brands, and people are loyal to certain brands, so we’re not throwing all of the traditional advertising metrics out the window either, but everything that, everything that we put in the marketplace, should play a dual role of building a brand and eliciting a measurable response. Christian Klepp 21:54 Yeah, that’s it. That’s it. So for this next question, not trying to scare anybody, but you guys did conduct a lot of research together with Harris Poll, and you came back with some really interesting figures, right? So one of them that you did together with Harris poll was shows that nearly 73% of marketing decision makers believe AI generated creative will define the future of advertising. So how will that fact alone replace traditional advertising as we know it? Keith Turco 22:27 I don’t think it replaces. I’ll go back to the same answer that we started at. I think it enhances, right? So 73% of the respondents absolutely see AI playing a role in their marketing and advertising, and it allows them to learn from the data that they collect, adapt and make changes quickly. It allows them to take into consideration geographical differences and business unit focused differences. It also allows you to take on the demographic insights, not just the firmographic insights, right? So if I know that Christian is living in Europe and is focused on certain business functions, but in his personal life, also likes to ski or golf, I’m oversimplifying it, right? But AI allows you to say, Oh, well, this visual will appeal to Christian. This cultural nuance and difference will appeal to Christian, and it allows you to hyper target in a much different way. That is we’ve advanced to that, had advanced to that pre AI, but it was a bit more manually intensive than it will be and is today from an AI based perspective. Christian Klepp 23:40 Now that you’ve explained it that way, that hopefully puts some of these doubts or fears a little bit to rest, because it’s an it’s an enhancement, or it should be viewed and treated as an enhancement mechanism, rather than a complete like disruption. Keith Turco 23:53 Absolutely, and that’s where, when I started, there is still a world where creativity is paramount, and that’s at the original conceptual stages, right? But what would take us months to make international adaptations and/or having three or four different pivot tables come together to say this creative with this copy block against this target audience with this message, so it’s the confluence of data that allows for easier output, from an AI perspective, to make it much more tailored to the desired consumer of that content. Christian Klepp 24:34 This same report that I mentioned previously, it also mentions that about 90% of companies are exploring new ways to reach audiences, and you did talk about that so but again, what are some of these channels and how will they impact the B2B marketing moving forward? Keith Turco 24:48 Yeah, first and foremost, you’re looking at social as a new avenue beyond the B2B LinkedIn social perspective, which plays a significant role in the B2B campaigns, but it’s also figuring out where Christian or Keith are consuming in their personal lives. So it’s not shocking that if you’re on Tiktok or Instagram or on our YouTube channel, that you’ll see some B2B messages that are out there. Early on, we knew from an event based perspective, that lots of business decision makers were watching golf, watching tennis. So sports has always and will continue to play a role, even in the B2B space. But it’s a good example of finding your consumer interests and where they overlap with your business interests. And it’s the same kind of thing from from that perspective, as well as understanding. I keep going back to the same message of Right place, right time, right audience, right segment. But so when you look at the new mediums, or the consumer based mediums, you know it’s understanding that where the personal interests come together with professional interests, and are they on Facebook? Are they on Instagram? Are they on YouTube? Are they on X and where are they playing, and how are they playing in those spaces, and where can I get the overlap? And, you know, from a business and personal perspective, also going back to day parts, right? Are they exercising on the treadmill at 5am, 6am, seven, 7am? Are they doing it in the PM? Are you catching them on their drive to and from the office? Maybe not five days a week anymore, but three days a week, right? Understanding, it’s funny, but you know, even dissecting the day of the week and how you you you buy media and how you serve it, right? So we know that if people are hybrid, they’re most of the time, they’re in the office Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, and not necessarily in the office on Mondays and Fridays. So you might catch them in different aspects of different parts of the week as well, day parts days of the week. Christian Klepp 26:56 It’s really interesting that you bring that up, because I had a gentleman on a little bit earlier this year that spoke about what he called Time of Day Marketing, and what he meant by that is like, is Keith the same person, or does he consume the same content, as an example, right at lunchtime, in the afternoon or or in the evening, before it goes to bed? And knowing that, and it’s going back to your ability to analyze and aggregate that data and spot these trends, right? That will help people to determine, Okay, so based on this time of the day when this person is consuming that content, what would be the best and most effective channel to use to reach out to said person? Because it could be a different channel. Keith Turco 27:35 Yeah, definitely. And I think looking at, we called it day parts, right? It’s what day part makes the most sense against which target audience. And it’s it is especially now, because we can gather that information and see when they’re consuming so going back to your earlier questions around performance marketing. Used to be, let’s just run it and see. You know that you would, we would always buy media in day part, and you could even buy it, obviously, from a program based perspective, so you’re but really dissecting and understanding which day parts individuals from the buying group consume media to your point, am I during lunchtime? Am I toggling off of my business channels and onto my personal channels. And that’s where I think to the point you made, and the point I made, that’s where it comes together, is personal demographics associated with firmographics and business decision makers, and where we can find them in their personal lives, not just their professional lives. You don’t just work between the hours of nine and five anymore, and you don’t just think about work between the hours of nine and five. Christian Klepp 28:44 That’s it. That’s it. Yeah, Keith, I had one follow up question for you, and I know that this isn’t really social media, per se, but what’s your take on Reddit, and how significant Do you think that is to B2B? Keith Turco 28:52 I think it’s it’s making, it’s making a play in the B2B space, absolutely. And I think we’d be remiss not to understand the impact it has on the B2B space. Finally, I have just asked the team to double click on Reddit, literally in the last couple of business days, to see what you know, what the impact of Reddit can be, and can it be measured in the B2B space. So I definitely think. Man, I don’t know if I would classify it as a social channel, but it’s kind of a publishing social. It’s kind of a little bit both. Christian Klepp 29:29 It straddles that those worlds, as I like to call it, right, like, it’s a little bit. Yeah, it’s hybrid. There you go. There you go. Absolutely. Okay. So again, in our previous conversation, you mentioned that the most effective B2B campaigns will be ones that combine AI driven insights with creativity and multi channel orchestration to deliver personalization at scale. So that’s a slightly different take to what you said earlier. So could you. Please elaborate on that a bit. Keith Turco 30:01 The personalization at scale, I don’t know that I view it as different. I kind of view it same, right? Christian Klepp 30:08 Same, okay. Keith Turco 30:09 Because it allows you to personalize based on the different data points that you collect and information that you collect from performance marketing, right? So personalization at scale allows me to say, okay, Christian is different than Keith, who’s different than Joe, who all work in the same organization might make might overlap with 80% of their business decisions, and 20% will be standalone. So performance marketing is, if done properly, is personalization at scale. It allows you to scale on a much bigger level, to ensure that you can have the sub segments be personalized, and have the information that you serve up to them resonate based on their personal interests and business interests. Christian Klepp 30:56 Yeah, absolutely, I guess the trick. And you’ve probably seen this happen to this, there’s companies out there that are using the personalization at scale, or they’re approaching it the wrong way. I would say they try to go in under the guise of personalization, but what actually is a bit more of a veiled sales pitch. Keith Turco 31:13 I agree, and I think that if you, if you can really tap into where the world comes together, of personal and professional interests and apply that to the individual customer or consumer. You can truly personalize on what makes it tick, and I think personalization at scale isn’t just a creative comment, it’s a media comment, right? It’s I can personalize the media journey based on how I know Christian is consuming media throughout the day, so it’s where content and creativity match media consumption. Christian Klepp 31:49 Absolutely, absolutely okay. I’m going to ask you a soapbox question, if that’s okay with you. So let’s zero in on the topic of performance marketing, because that is your area. What is the status quo in performance marketing that you passionately disagree with, and why? Keith Turco 32:12 From a B2B performance marketing perspective, I think we talk about right place, right time, right message. And I think the status quo is that creative doesn’t matter, because if you serve the right message to the right person at the right time, creative won’t make an impact. And I’ll go back to branded response. I think the status quo is creative doesn’t play as big of role as it used to, and I would disagree, I talked about thumb stopping. You have to get people to stop, right? Because people are constantly scrolling and they’re being barraged with message after message after message. So what will resonate? And I do think that, you know, building a brand that has integrity, that creates loyalty. So to me, it’s the proper balance of brand and demand, or branded response that should be looked at again. I think we’ve probably taken a 10 year hiatus from that, and it was just about right message, right time. And it worked because it was thumb stopping at the time. But given the overload of messages, and exactly what we’re talking about, Christian of hitting people in their personal lives with professional messages, there’s an overload of messages that happen. So it’s kind of bringing all of your the soapbox questions, bringing all of your questions together, right? Which is what it’s intended to do. So it’s funny, because you you know you can absolutely understand that you can shorten the sales cycle by creating brand affinity. You talked about, is AI a threat to advertising. Actually, it’s an enhancement, because brand, to me, in my mind, still plays a significant role. And it’s bringing the two worlds together that will differentiate the top notch marketers of tomorrow. Christian Klepp 34:08 Absolutely, absolutely. And it goes back to something that you said earlier. I mean, this whole ecosystem is in a constant state of evolution, so marketers better learn to quote what you said, to embrace it, rather than to push back at it, right, or to push back on it, right? Keith Turco 34:24 I think the key is evolution. It’s not abandonment, right? And net new activities, right? So email was an evolution of direct mail. This display was an evolution of, you know, the 15 second video kind of thing, right? It’s how do we evolve, leverage what we’ve, what we know and what worked, and evolve it to make it better? It’s not necessarily, in my mind, a replacement of, sure, will it take the place of certain aspects of things, absolutely, but how can you use it to enhance and add versus feel threatened by it? Christian Klepp 35:03 Absolutely, absolutely. Keith, this conversation was dynamite. Thank you so much for coming on and for sharing your experience and expertise with the listeners. Quick introduction to yourself and how folks out there can get in touch with you. Keith Turco 35:15 Sure. Keith Turco, CEO of Madison Logic, you can find me on LinkedIn. Would love to talk to you about your business needs and how we can help you from ABM perspective. Christian Klepp 35:27 Fantastic, fantastic. Once again, Keith, thanks so much for coming on the show. It was a pleasure. Keith Turco 35:33 Thank you, Christian. You have a great day. Christian Klepp 35:34 Thanks. Bye bye.
Send us a textWhat if every dollar spent on ads could be traced to a signed contract, a booked meeting, or a new client? The disconnect between ad spend and revenue isn't a mystery businesses have to live with. This problem, the attribution gap, can be solved through methodical thinking, technical capability, and a willingness to build the infrastructure that connects marketing activities to real business outcomes. In this episode, we pull back the curtain on two concrete case studies using two real companies who faced the maddening reality: their CRM systems and ad platforms weren't talking to each other. Tune in to see how Optidge built the data bridges that transformed guesswork to strategic growth and implemented deliberate optimization tactics across their ad campaigns to drive further success. An Optidge "Office Hours" Episode:Our Office Hours episodes are your go-to for details, how-to's, and advice on specific marketing topics. Join our fellow Optidge team members, partners, and sometimes even 1:1 teachings from Danny himself, in these shorter, marketing-focused episodes. Get ready to get marketing!Episode Highlights: Marketing attribution requires connecting ad platforms to revenue data, not just lead counts.Building a feedback loop between CRM and advertising platforms transforms how you optimize campaigns.Data silos prevent businesses from understanding which marketing efforts drive actual revenue.Custom attribution pipelines can reveal sales cycles, funnel speed, and high-value customer sources.Fragmented tech stacks create blind spots that make it impossible to track leads to final conversions.Episode Links: OptidgeOptidge Services: Hubspot for Paid MediaPaid Search Association Webinar: Hubspot and Google Ads - Everything You Wanted to KnowThe DM Mentor on InstagramFollow The Digital Marketing Mentor: Website and Blog: thedmmentor.com Instagram: @thedmmentor Linkedin: @thedmmentor YouTube: @thedmmentor Interested in Digital Marketing Services, Careers, or Courses? Check out more from the TDMM Family: Optidge.com - Full Service Digital Marketing Agency specializing in SEO, PPC, Paid Social, and Lead Generation efforts for established B2C and B2B businesses and organizations. ODEOacademy.com - Digital Marketing online education and course platform. ODEO gives you solid digital marketing knowledge to launch/boost your career or understand your business's digital marketing strategy.
Welcome to a new year of the I Do Wedding Marketing Podcast! We've had so much fun over the years talking all things wedding marketing - but today's episode is a fresh side of marketing that feels perfectly aligned with New Year energy: speaking opportunities.If you've been a longtime listener, you know I started adding in-person speaking to my business last year. Building my business during the COVID years meant everything was virtual, so stepping onto live stages for the first time felt intimidating - and I know I'm not alone in that.For me, the secret sauce was taking Meghan Ely's Wedding Industry Speakers course - the roadmap I didn't know I needed. It put me on an incredible trajectory, and it's exactly why I wanted Meghan on the show to kick off 2026. Because when it comes to speaking, PR, and positioning yourself as an industry authority, there are few people more qualified to lead that conversation than Meghan.You probably already know OFD Consulting, where owner Meghan Ely combines in-the-trenches event experience with a deep love of wedding PR to help her clients take their businesses to new heights. As a result, she's become one of the industry's most trusted voices, earning press for her clients in outlets including The New York Times, Brides, Martha Stewart Weddings, People, Bridal Guide, Architectural Digest, and Style Me Pretty. She is also a longtime columnist for Special Events and Catersource.Meghan is a past national president of WIPA, a member of the Allied Council for the National Society of Black Wedding & Event Professionals, and a National Speaker of the Year honoree by NACE. Most recently, RSVP Club named her the 2025 Favorite Educator - and honestly? I have a feeling she's about to be one of our favorite guests of 2026.What we cover in this episode:Why speaking is one of the most effective ways to build authority and trust in the wedding industryWho speaking is actually for (B2B, B2C, educators, and tech brands alike)How speaking can open doors beyond the stage, including new revenue streamsHow to know if you're ready to speak - even without prior experienceWhere to start if you've never taken the stage beforeWhat Meghan wishes she knew before her first speaking gigsWhy speaker fees aren't the full ROI (and what really matters)How to choose a signature talk that aligns with your goals and expertiseHow to start small, build confidence, and grow into speaking sustainablyWhere to find Meghan + her courseYou can learn more about Meghan, her work, and the Wedding Industry Speakers course at:weddingindustryspeakers.comofdconsulting.comRegistration is open through January 21. It runs for eight weeks, is live and recorded, and yes - those office hours are as fun (and helpful!) as they sound.Onward and upward to 2026!Follow I Do Wedding Marketing InstagramFacebookLinkedInThreadsI Do Wedding Marketing podcast listeners can receive 15% off a 6-month subscription as a new Aisle Planner user! Use code IDWMxAP
B2B pricing is still way harder than it should be, even in 2026. In this conversation, Tina Kung, Founder and CTO at Nue.ai, breaks down why quote to revenue can take weeks, and how a flexible pricing engine can turn it into something closer to one click.You will hear how fast changing pricing models, AI driven products, and new selling motions are forcing revenue teams to rethink the entire system, not just one tool in the stack.Key takeaways• B2B quoting is basically a shopping cart, but the real complexity is cross team workflow, accounting controls, and downstream revenue rules.• Fragmented systems break the moment pricing changes, and in fast markets that can mean you only get one real pricing change per year.• AI companies often evolve from simple subscriptions to usage, services, and even physical goods, which creates billing chaos without a unified backbone.• Commit based models can make revenue more predictable while staying flexible for customers, but only if you can track entitlement, burn down, overspend, and approvals cleanly.• The most useful AI in revenue ops is not just insight, it is action, meaning it can generate the right transaction safely inside a system of record.Timestamped highlights00:43 What Nue.ai actually does, one platform for billing, usage, and revenue ops with intelligence on top02:43 Why a one minute checkout in B2C turns into weeks or months in B2B05:28 The real reason quote to revenue stays broken, fragmentation and brittle integrations08:03 How AI era pricing evolves, subscriptions to consumption, services, and physical goods12:51 Why Tina designed for flexibility from day one, and what 70 plus customer calls revealed19:42 Transactional intelligence, AI that can create the quote, route approvals, and move revenue work forwardA line worth keeping“It should be as easy as one click.”Practical moves you can steal• Map every pricing change to the downstream work it triggers, quoting, billing, revenue recognition, and approvals, then measure how many handoffs exist today.• If you sell both self serve and enterprise, design for multiple selling motions early, because the same objects can have totally different context and risk.• Treat pricing as a product surface, if your systems make changes slow, you are giving up speed in the market.Call to actionIf you want more conversations like this on how modern tech companies actually operate, follow the show on Apple Podcasts or Spotify, and connect with me on LinkedIn for clips and episode takeaways.
Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Cameka Smith. Founder of The BOSS Network, from Money Making Conversations Masterclass: Purpose of the Interview The interview aimed to: Highlight The BOSS Network’s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support. Share Dr. Smith’s personal journey from layoff to leadership, inspiring others to embrace entrepreneurship. Discuss strategies for business success, funding opportunities, and mentorship for Black female founders. Key Takeaways Origin of The BOSS Network Founded in 2009 during the recession after Dr. Smith was laid off from Chicago Public Schools. Initially started as local events in Chicago; now a digital community reaching 200,000 women nationwide. Mission: Bringing Out Successful Sisters (BOSS)—promoting small business spirit and career growth. Impact & Achievements Invested in 100 Black female founders through grants. Trained 50,000 women on business strategies. Coached 10,000 women on starting businesses. Created Boss Business University, offering mentorship and digital programs. Pivot During COVID Shifted from 35% event-based revenue to 75% digital. Launched Boss Impact Fund and Invest in Progress Grant: $10,000 grants + 4-year scholarships for recipients. Combined funding, mentorship, and marketing support for sustainability. Challenges & Mindset Entrepreneurship requires planning, resilience, and community support. Dr. Smith saved money before leaving her job and leveraged relationships for growth. Quote: “Entrepreneurs will work 80 hours for themselves but don’t want to work 40 hours for someone else.” Top 3 Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make Lack of research: Understand your industry, competitors, and market. No revenue model: If you’re not making money, it’s a hobby, not a business. Ignoring relationships: Networking and partnerships are key to success. Unique Marketing & Partnerships Dr. Smith built direct relationships with brands, bypassing agencies that offered “pennies on the dollar.” Created a dual revenue model: B2B (corporate partnerships) + B2C (community engagement). Core Philosophy Motto: Believe, Plan, Win. Quote: “Those that show up, go up.” Success is rooted in faith, persistence, and leveraging community. Notable Quotes “I was born to be an entrepreneur. My mother told me, until you become your own boss, you have to follow the rules.” “Less than 1% of Black women get VC funding—so we created our own fund.” “Relationships are your key to success. When social media goes away, your audience remains.” “If you have a business and you don’t have money, you’ve got a hobby.” “God will not birth anything inside of you that He will not give you the tools to deliver.” #SHMS #STRAW #BESTSupport the show: https://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Cameka Smith. Founder of The BOSS Network, from Money Making Conversations Masterclass: Purpose of the Interview The interview aimed to: Highlight The BOSS Network’s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support. Share Dr. Smith’s personal journey from layoff to leadership, inspiring others to embrace entrepreneurship. Discuss strategies for business success, funding opportunities, and mentorship for Black female founders. Key Takeaways Origin of The BOSS Network Founded in 2009 during the recession after Dr. Smith was laid off from Chicago Public Schools. Initially started as local events in Chicago; now a digital community reaching 200,000 women nationwide. Mission: Bringing Out Successful Sisters (BOSS)—promoting small business spirit and career growth. Impact & Achievements Invested in 100 Black female founders through grants. Trained 50,000 women on business strategies. Coached 10,000 women on starting businesses. Created Boss Business University, offering mentorship and digital programs. Pivot During COVID Shifted from 35% event-based revenue to 75% digital. Launched Boss Impact Fund and Invest in Progress Grant: $10,000 grants + 4-year scholarships for recipients. Combined funding, mentorship, and marketing support for sustainability. Challenges & Mindset Entrepreneurship requires planning, resilience, and community support. Dr. Smith saved money before leaving her job and leveraged relationships for growth. Quote: “Entrepreneurs will work 80 hours for themselves but don’t want to work 40 hours for someone else.” Top 3 Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make Lack of research: Understand your industry, competitors, and market. No revenue model: If you’re not making money, it’s a hobby, not a business. Ignoring relationships: Networking and partnerships are key to success. Unique Marketing & Partnerships Dr. Smith built direct relationships with brands, bypassing agencies that offered “pennies on the dollar.” Created a dual revenue model: B2B (corporate partnerships) + B2C (community engagement). Core Philosophy Motto: Believe, Plan, Win. Quote: “Those that show up, go up.” Success is rooted in faith, persistence, and leveraging community. Notable Quotes “I was born to be an entrepreneur. My mother told me, until you become your own boss, you have to follow the rules.” “Less than 1% of Black women get VC funding—so we created our own fund.” “Relationships are your key to success. When social media goes away, your audience remains.” “If you have a business and you don’t have money, you’ve got a hobby.” “God will not birth anything inside of you that He will not give you the tools to deliver.” #SHMS #STRAW #BESTSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Two-time Emmy and Three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer Rushion McDonald interviewed Dr. Cameka Smith. Founder of The BOSS Network, from Money Making Conversations Masterclass: Purpose of the Interview The interview aimed to: Highlight The BOSS Network’s mission to empower women of color through entrepreneurship, career development, and community support. Share Dr. Smith’s personal journey from layoff to leadership, inspiring others to embrace entrepreneurship. Discuss strategies for business success, funding opportunities, and mentorship for Black female founders. Key Takeaways Origin of The BOSS Network Founded in 2009 during the recession after Dr. Smith was laid off from Chicago Public Schools. Initially started as local events in Chicago; now a digital community reaching 200,000 women nationwide. Mission: Bringing Out Successful Sisters (BOSS)—promoting small business spirit and career growth. Impact & Achievements Invested in 100 Black female founders through grants. Trained 50,000 women on business strategies. Coached 10,000 women on starting businesses. Created Boss Business University, offering mentorship and digital programs. Pivot During COVID Shifted from 35% event-based revenue to 75% digital. Launched Boss Impact Fund and Invest in Progress Grant: $10,000 grants + 4-year scholarships for recipients. Combined funding, mentorship, and marketing support for sustainability. Challenges & Mindset Entrepreneurship requires planning, resilience, and community support. Dr. Smith saved money before leaving her job and leveraged relationships for growth. Quote: “Entrepreneurs will work 80 hours for themselves but don’t want to work 40 hours for someone else.” Top 3 Mistakes Entrepreneurs Make Lack of research: Understand your industry, competitors, and market. No revenue model: If you’re not making money, it’s a hobby, not a business. Ignoring relationships: Networking and partnerships are key to success. Unique Marketing & Partnerships Dr. Smith built direct relationships with brands, bypassing agencies that offered “pennies on the dollar.” Created a dual revenue model: B2B (corporate partnerships) + B2C (community engagement). Core Philosophy Motto: Believe, Plan, Win. Quote: “Those that show up, go up.” Success is rooted in faith, persistence, and leveraging community. Notable Quotes “I was born to be an entrepreneur. My mother told me, until you become your own boss, you have to follow the rules.” “Less than 1% of Black women get VC funding—so we created our own fund.” “Relationships are your key to success. When social media goes away, your audience remains.” “If you have a business and you don’t have money, you’ve got a hobby.” “God will not birth anything inside of you that He will not give you the tools to deliver.” #SHMS #STRAW #BESTSteve Harvey Morning Show Online: http://www.steveharveyfm.com/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
James Gurd and Rupert Cross explore the current landscape for B2B ecommerce, exploring trends that are reshaping the industry as we enter 2026. With Rupert's extensive experience as CEO of 5874 Commerce, the discussion offers a deep dive into the complexities and innovations influencing B2B commerce.Key discussion points:B2B vs. B2C expectations: The lines between B2B and B2C are blurring, with B2B buyers now expecting the same seamless online experiences as B2C consumers. Technological Advancements: The democratisation of AI and the rise of advanced search and personalisation tools are making commerce more accessible and efficient.Data integrity: Emphasising the importance of high-quality data, the conversation highlights how accurate data can streamline operations and enhance decision-making. Self-service and personalisation: The demand for digital self-service tools is growing, with businesses seeking to offer personalised experiences that cater to individual customer needs.Reasons to listen:Gain insights into the future of B2B ecommerce and the trends that will shape the industry in 2026. Learn from industry experts about the challenges and opportunities in adopting new technologies. Understand the critical role of data integrity in driving ecommerce success.Chapters:[02:15] Key Trends in B2B Commerce[05:15] The Role of Data and Technology in B2B[08:00] Personalisation in B2B User Experience[11:30] Demand Forecasting and Inventory Optimisation[13:50] Digital Self-Service in B2B[17:00] The Impact of AI on B2B Processes[19:40] The Evolution of B2B Platforms[22:25] Future Trends in B2B Technology[24:35] Closing Thoughts on Data IntegritySubscribe now: stay updated with the latest trends and insights by subscribing to our podcast series.
In this conversation, Jason Cochran speaks with Tanya and Tony Thorson about the evolving landscape of marketing psychology, particularly in the context of B2B and B2C interactions. They discuss their book, 'Get Off Your Mask', which emphasizes the importance of personalization, authenticity, and the human connection in marketing. The Thorsons introduce their POISE framework, which focuses on personalization, omnichannel strategies, and emotional intelligence. They also share real-world examples of effective marketing strategies and predict future trends in the industry. Additional Resources: Connect with Tanya on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tanyathorson/ Connect with Tony on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tony-thorson-96878b10/ Join the PFN Community! Watch the Working Forward Podcast on YouTube! Connect with Jason on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-d-cochran/ Follow PeopleForward Network on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/peopleforward-network/posts/?feedView=all Learn more about PeopleForward Network: https://peopleforwardnetwork.com/ Key Takeaways: Marketing is evolving with the integration of AI. The human connection is paramount in B2B and B2C. Personalization goes beyond just addressing the consumer by name. Authenticity in marketing builds trust and loyalty. Curiosity drives effective marketing strategies.
Write. Tinker. Win.From Hip Hop to EntrepreneurshipRoss Simmonds grew up learning lessons from hip hop that would later shape his entire career. From Jay-Z and Lupe Fiasco to Kendrick Lamar, the messages of hunger, excellence, and humility built the foundation for how he approaches business. In this episode of Just Keep Learning, Ross explains how those same principles helped him turn curiosity and writing into a multi-business empire.Building Businesses From CuriosityRoss didn't start with a blueprint,he started with experiments. From selling jerseys and durags out of his locker to creating blogs and digital guides, he learned that curiosity compounds into skills. Each project taught him something new about sales, storytelling, and community,skills he now uses to run his B2B marketing agency and e-commerce brand.Personal Branding and the “CEO of You”Ross breaks down his framework for personal branding: think of yourself as a company. Be your own CEO, marketing director, finance officer, and HR department. Decide what you want to be known for, and act accordingly. A personal brand isn't about pretending; it's about doing real things, then sharing them.Hip Hop, Hustle, and Staying HumbleHip hop taught Ross that ambition and gratitude can coexist. At his agency, Foundation, the mantra “Stand up. Be humble.” serves as a daily reminder to celebrate wins without getting complacent. Like a great verse, every project deserves your best performance,treat your first like your last and your last like your first.B2B vs. B2C and Making Money OnlineRoss demystifies the world of business models. Whether it's selling to consumers or companies, he says the key is finding what excites you. For some, that's making merch or art; for others, it's helping organizations grow. Both can work if you stay focused and learn to sell. He explains how digital skills,writing, design, communication,can turn into income fast through freelancing, affiliate marketing, or online products.Lessons For Aspiring CreatorsTreat every project like your firstLearn from hip hop: stay hungry, stay humbleThink like a CEO,build your personal brand with intentionUse the internet as your equalizer; the opportunities are endlessBuild skills before income; curiosity compounds into cash flowExperiment. Tinker. Keep learning.Memorable Quotes“Treat your first like your last, and your last like your first.”“The internet is the greatest equalizer.”“Be the CEO of you.”“There's no one too unskilled to make money online.”“Find joy in tinkering,the play is the path.”Final Advice For CreatorsBe willing to experiment. Don't chase perfection,chase curiosity. Build something, learn from it, and keep evolving. That's how you win in business and in life.Guest BioRoss Simmonds is an entrepreneur, speaker, and the founder of Foundation, a B2B content marketing agency helping global brands scale through strategy and storytelling. He's also behind Hustle & Grind, a lifestyle brand for creators. Known for blending hip hop culture with business insight, Ross teaches creators and marketers how to turn ideas into impact.CHECK OUT THE JKL STORE FOR HELP MAKING YOUR BOOK, PODCAST AND BUSINESS DREAMS COME TRUE!FOLLOW JustinInstagram – @JustKeepLearning.CaYouTube –@justkeeplearningpodcastTwitter – @JustinNolan_JKLTiktok – @justkeeplearning.caPinterest – JustKeepLearningcaFacebook – JustKeepLearningLinkedIn – Justin I'm so happy you found this podcast. I am here to serve you, the creative solopreneur & aspiring content creator to get clarity on building your publishing business. Write a book, create a podcast, share content, and build a business, design the life of your dreams.Let's make it happen. You got this! See how we can work together. https://stan.store/justkeeplearning
In a conversation with my co-founder we speak about why we're not selling Podsqueeze in 2026, our MRR numbers, tackling churn, and the challenges of B2B vs. B2C. I explain our SEO strategy and why we invested $1,500 in a domain. I share new learnings about automating with N8N and the impact of AI on SaaS. Distribution—not just building products—is key. My prediction for 2026: focus on what works, cut what doesn't, double down on SEO and automation, and leverage all our assets for growth.Timestamps by PodSqueezeDecision Not to Sell PodSqueeze (00:00:03) PodSqueeze Growth Metrics & Churn Reduction (00:01:19) Retention Strategies: Pricing & Rollover Minutes (00:03:52) Challenges of Bootstrapped vs. VC Startups (00:05:02) Selling Triggers & Maintenance Mode (00:06:18) Valuation: Lifestyle Business vs. VC Business (00:08:21) B2B Strategy & Enterprise Sales Attempts (00:11:12) Enterprise Pricing Challenges & Negotiation (00:14:40) B2B vs. B2C Pricing Dilemmas (00:17:19) Media Companies' Financial Struggles (00:19:55) Wrap Up: PodSqueeze Status & Passion vs. Business (00:21:54) Buying a $1,500 Domain for SEO (00:23:47) Exact Match Domains & SEO Insights (00:24:47) Pivoting Landing Pages & Product Alignment (00:28:55) Step-by-Step SEO Strategy for New Domains (00:31:37) Backlink Building & Press Releases (00:34:07) AI's Impact on SaaS & Automation Tools (00:37:14) Integrations & The Future of SaaS (00:40:11) Distribution as the Key to Success (00:41:59) Distribution vs. Shipping Fast (00:44:43) Final Lessons & 2026 Predictions (00:48:14) Conclusion & Podcast Future Plans (00:53:28)
This week, we take another look back at the conversations we've had over the past year, highlighting some of our happiest, smartest, funniest, and most difficult exchanges, including Laura Zander on how she got the price she wanted to sell Jimmy Beans Wool, Liz Picarazzi on her confrontation with a grizzly bear, Jay Goltz on why he just might be a good candidate to turn his business into a worker cooperative, Mel Gravely on why he sold his facilities-management business as soon as it became profitable, and Jaci Russo on how she figured out how to train a series of AI agents to deliver 10 client leads first thing every morning.
Original Release Date: November 13, 2025Live from Morgan Stanley's European Tech, Media and Telecom Conference in Barcelona, our roundtable of analysts discusses tech disruptions and datacenter growth, and how Europe factors in.Read more insights from Morgan Stanley.----- Transcript -----Paul Walsh: Welcome to Thoughts on the Market. I'm Paul Walsh, Morgan Stanley's European Head of Research Product. Today we return to my conversation with Adam Wood. Head of European Technology and Payments, Emmet Kelly, Head of European Telco and Data Centers, and Lee Simpson, Head of European Technology. We were live on stage at Morgan Stanley's 25th TMT Europe conference. We had so much to discuss around the themes of AI enablers, semiconductors, and telcos. So, we are back with a concluding episode on tech disruption and data center investments. It's Thursday the 13th of November at 8am in Barcelona. After speaking with the panel about the U.S. being overweight AI enablers, and the pockets of opportunity in Europe, I wanted to ask them about AI disruption, which has been a key theme here in Europe. I started by asking Adam how he was thinking about this theme. Adam Wood: It's fascinating to see this year how we've gone in most of those sectors to how positive can GenAI be for these companies? How well are they going to monetize the opportunities? How much are they going to take advantage internally to take their own margins up? To flipping in the second half of the year, mainly to, how disruptive are they going to be? And how on earth are they going to fend off these challenges? Paul Walsh: And I think that speaks to the extent to which, as a theme, this has really, you know, built momentum. Adam Wood: Absolutely. And I mean, look, I think the first point, you know, that you made is absolutely correct – that it's very difficult to disprove this. It's going to take time for that to happen. It's impossible to do in the short term. I think the other issue is that what we've seen is – if we look at the revenues of some of the companies, you know, and huge investments going in there. And investors can clearly see the benefit of GenAI. And so investors are right to ask the question, well, where's the revenue for these businesses? You know, where are we seeing it in info services or in IT services, or in enterprise software. And the reality is today, you know, we're not seeing it. And it's hard for analysts to point to evidence that – well, no, here's the revenue base, here's the benefit that's coming through. And so, investors naturally flip to, well, if there's no benefit, then surely, we should focus on the risk. So, I think we totally understand, you know, why people are focused on the negative side of things today. I think there are differences between the sub-sectors. I mean, I think if we look, you know, at IT services, first of all, from an investor point of view, I think that's been pretty well placed in the losers' buckets and people are most concerned about that sub-sector… Paul Walsh: Something you and the global team have written a lot about. Adam Wood: Yeah, we've written about, you know, the risk of disruption in that space, the need for those companies to invest, and then the challenges they face. But I mean, if we just keep it very, very simplistic. If Gen AI is a technology that, you know, displaces labor to any extent – companies that have played labor arbitrage and provide labor for the last 20 - 25 years, you know, they're going to have to make changes to their business model. So, I think that's understandable. And they're going to have to demonstrate how they can change and invest and produce a business model that addresses those concerns. I'd probably put info services in the middle. But the challenge in that space is you have real identifiable companies that have emerged, that have a revenue base and that are challenging a subset of the products of those businesses. So again, it's perfectly understandable that investors would worry. In that context, it's not a potential threat on the horizon. It's a real threat that exists today against certainly their businesses. I think software is probably the most interesting. I'd put it in the kind of final bucket where I actually believe… Well, I think first of all, we certainly wouldn't take the view that there's no risk of disruption and things aren't going to change. Clearly that is going to be the case. I think what we'd want to do though is we'd want to continue to use frameworks that we've used historically to think about how software companies differentiate themselves, what the barriers to entry are. We don't think we need to throw all of those things away just because we have GenAI, this new set of capabilities. And I think investors will come back most easily to that space. Paul Walsh: Emmet, you talked a little bit there before about the fact that you haven't seen a huge amount of progress or additional insight from the telco space around AI; how AI is diffusing across the space. Do you get any discussions around disruption as it relates to telco space? Emmet Kelly: Very, very little. I think the biggest threat that telcos do see is – it is from the hyperscalers. So, if I look at and separate the B2C market out from the B2B, the telcos are still extremely dominant in the B2C space, clearly. But on the B2B space, the hyperscalers have come in on the cloud side, and if you look at their market share, they're very, very dominant in cloud – certainly from a wholesale perspective. So, if you look at the cloud market shares of the big three hyperscalers in Europe, this number is courtesy of my colleague George Webb. He said it's roughly 85 percent; that's how much they have of the cloud space today. The telcos, what they're doing is they're actually reselling the hyperscale service under the telco brand name. But we don't see much really in terms of the pure kind of AI disruption, but there are concerns definitely within the telco space that the hyperscalers might try and move from the B2B space into the B2C space at some stage. And whether it's through virtual networks, cloudified networks, to try and get into the B2C space that way. Paul Walsh: Understood. And Lee maybe less about disruption, but certainly adoption, some insights from your side around adoption across the tech hardware space? Lee Simpson: Sure. I think, you know, it's always seen that are enabling the AI move, but, but there is adoption inside semis companies as well, and I think I'd point to design flow. So, if you look at the design guys, they're embracing the agentic system thing really quickly and they're putting forward this capability of an agent engineer, so like a digital engineer. And it – I guess we've got to get this right. It is going to enable a faster time to market for the design flow on a chip. So, if you have that design flow time, that time to market. So, you're creating double the value there for the client. Do you share that 50-50 with them? So, the challenge is going to be exactly as Adam was saying, how do you monetize this stuff? So, this is kind of the struggle that we're seeing in adoption. Paul Walsh: And Emmet, let's move to you on data centers. I mean, there are just some incredible numbers that we've seen emerging, as it relates to the hyperscaler investment that we're seeing in building out the infrastructure. I know data centers is something that you have focused tremendously on in your research, bringing our global perspectives together. Obviously, Europe sits within that. And there is a market here in Europe that might be more challenged. But I'm interested to understand how you're thinking about framing the whole data center story? Implications for Europe. Do European companies feed off some of that U.S. hyperscaler CapEx? How should we be thinking about that through the European lens? Emmet Kelly: Yeah, absolutely. So, big question, Paul. What… Paul Walsh: We've got a few minutes! Emmet Kelly: We've got a few minutes. What I would say is there was a great paper that came out from Harvard just two weeks ago, and they were looking at the scale of data center investments in the United States. And clearly the U.S. economy is ticking along very, very nicely at the moment. But this Harvard paper concluded that if you take out data center investments, U.S. economic growth today is actually zero. Paul Walsh: Wow. Emmet Kelly: That is how big the data center investments are. And what we've said in our research very clearly is if you want to build a megawatt of data center capacity that's going to cost you roughly $35 million today. Let's put that number out there. 35 million. Roughly, I'd say 25… Well, 20 to 25 million of that goes into the chips. But what's really interesting is the other remaining $10 million per megawatt, and I like to call that the picks and shovels of data centers; and I'm very convinced there is no bubble in that area whatsoever.So, what's in that area? Firstly, the first building block of a data center is finding a powered land bank. And this is a big thing that private equity is doing at the moment. So, find some real estate that's close to a mass population that's got a good fiber connection. Probably needs a little bit of water, but most importantly needs some power. And the demand for that is still infinite at the moment. Then beyond that, you've got the construction angle and there's a very big shortage of labor today to build the shells of these data centers. Then the third layer is the likes of capital goods, and there are serious supply bottlenecks there as well.And I could go on and on, but roughly that first $10 million, there's no bubble there. I'm very, very sure of that. Paul Walsh: And we conducted some extensive survey work recently as part of your analysis into the global data center market. You've sort of touched on a few of the gating factors that the industry has to contend with. That survey work was done on the operators and the supply chain, as it relates to data center build out. What were the key conclusions from that? Emmet Kelly: Well, the key conclusion was there is a shortage of power for these data centers, and… Paul Walsh: Which I think… Which is a sort of known-known, to some extent. Emmet Kelly: it is a known-known, but it's not just about the availability of power, it's the availability of green power. And it's also the price of power is a very big factor as well because energy is roughly 40 to 45 percent of the operating cost of running a data center. So, it's very, very important. And of course, that's another area where Europe doesn't screen very well.I was looking at statistics just last week on the countries that have got the highest power prices in the world. And unsurprisingly, it came out as UK, Ireland, Germany, and that's three of our big five data center markets. But when I looked at our data center stats at the beginning of the year, to put a bit of context into where we are…Paul Walsh: In Europe… Emmet Kelly: In Europe versus the rest. So, at the end of [20]24, the U.S. data center market had 35 gigawatts of data center capacity. But that grew last year at a clip of 30 percent. China had a data center bank of roughly 22 gigawatts, but that had grown at a rate of just 10 percent. And that was because of the chip issue. And then Europe has capacity, or had capacity at the end of last year, roughly 7 to 8 gigawatts, and that had grown at a rate of 10 percent. Now, the reason for that is because the three big data center markets in Europe are called FLAP-D. So, it's Frankfurt, London, Amsterdam, Paris, and Dublin. We had to put an acronym on it. So, Flap-D. Good news. I'm sitting with the tech guys. They've got even more acronyms than I do, in their sector, so well done them. Lee Simpson: Nothing beats FLAP-D. Paul Walsh: Yes. Emmet Kelly: It's quite an achievement. But what is interesting is three of the big five markets in Europe are constrained. So, Frankfurt, post the Ukraine conflict. Ireland, because in Ireland, an incredible statistic is data centers are using 25 percent of the Irish power grid. Compared to a global average of 3 percent.Now I'm from Dublin, and data centers are running into conflict with industry, with housing estates. Data centers are using 45 percent of the Dublin grid, 45. So, there's a moratorium in building data centers there. And then Amsterdam has the classic semi moratorium space because it's a small country with a very high population. So, three of our five markets are constrained in Europe. What is interesting is it started with the former Prime Minister Rishi Sunak. The UK has made great strides at attracting data center money and AI capital into the UK and the current Prime Minister continues to do that. So, the UK has definitely gone; moved from the middle lane into the fast lane. And then Macron in France. He hosted an AI summit back in February and he attracted over a 100 billion euros of AI and data center commitments. Paul Walsh: And I think if we added up, as per the research that we published a few months ago, Europe's announced over 350 billion euros, in proposed investments around AI. Emmet Kelly: Yeah, absolutely. It's a good stat. Now where people can get a little bit cynical is they can say a couple of things. Firstly, it's now over a year since the Mario Draghi report came out. And what's changed since? Absolutely nothing, unfortunately. And secondly, when I look at powering AI, I like to compare Europe to what's happening in the United States. I mean, the U.S. is giving access to nuclear power to AI. It started with the three Mile Island… Paul Walsh: Yeah. The nuclear renaissance is… Emmet Kelly: Nuclear Renaissance is absolutely huge. Now, what's underappreciated is actually Europe has got a massive nuclear power bank. It's right up there. But unfortunately, we're decommissioning some of our nuclear power around Europe, so we're going the wrong way from that perspective. Whereas President Trump is opening up the nuclear power to AI tech companies and data centers. Then over in the States we also have gas and turbines. That's a very, very big growth area and we're not quite on top of that here in Europe. So, looking at this year, I have a feeling that the Americans will probably increase their data center capacity somewhere between – it's incredible – somewhere between 35 and 50 percent. And I think in Europe we're probably looking at something like 10 percent again. Paul Walsh: Okay. Understood. Emmet Kelly: So, we're growing in Europe, but we're way, way behind as a starting point. And it feels like the others are pulling away. The other big change I'd highlight is the Chinese are really going to accelerate their data center growth this year as well. They've got their act together and you'll see them heading probably towards 30 gigs of capacity by the end of next year. Paul Walsh: Alright, we're out of time. The TMT Edge is alive and kicking in Europe. I want to thank Emmett, Lee and Adam for their time and I just want to wish everybody a great day today. Thank you.(Applause) That was my conversation with Adam, Emmett and Lee. Many thanks again to them. Many thanks again to them for telling us about the latest in their areas of research and to the live audience for hearing us out. And a thanks to you as well for listening. Let us know what you think about this and other episodes by living us a review wherever you get your podcasts. And if you enjoy listening to Thoughts on the Market, please tell a friend or colleague about the podcast today.
In this conversation, Tommy Mello interviews Johnny Conklin, founder and managing partner of 16 South Capital Partners. They discuss the importance of partnerships in business, the evolving landscape of private equity, and the role of founders in driving success. Johnny shares insights from his journey in private equity, emphasizing the need for authenticity, transparency, and a focus on non-economic goals. He explains the unique approach of 16 South Capital, which prioritizes legacy preservation and team culture over traditional leverage strategies. The conversation also touches on the misconceptions surrounding private equity and the importance of preparing for life after a sale. 00:00 The Importance of Partnerships 06:11 Navigating the Changing Landscape of B2B and B2C 09:03 The Role of Founders in Business Success 11:54 Understanding the Value of Non-Economic Goals 14:45 The Unique Approach of 16 South Capital 20:54 The Importance of Team and Culture 26:47 The Misconceptions of Private Equity 29:45 Preparing for Life After a Sale 32:50 Advice for Aspiring Business Owners 35:51 The Future of Private Equity and Business Growth
B2B social isn't broken…most brands are just playing it wrong. Daniel sits down with Chris Cunningham, founding member of ClickUp and the brain behind one of the most recognizable B2B social strategies today. Chris breaks down how ClickUp went from a scrappy pivot to a content powerhouse by betting early on creators, comedy, and consistency, even when everyone said B2B social wouldn't work. From building an internal creator team to launching multiple niche media pages, Chris shares the exact operating system ClickUp uses to generate millions of organic impressions every month. You'll also learn: Why B2B brands should copy B2C trends before they're “acceptable” How ClickUp runs its weekly content machine from ideation to publishing Why creator-led pages and employee-generated content are the future of B2B marketing If you're trying to build a brand people actually talk about (not just ads people scroll past), this episode is for you. CallRail is the lead engagement platform built for marketers who need clean attribution, smarter insights, and zero missed leads. From AI-powered call tracking and conversation intelligence to a 24/7 AI voice agent, CallRail helps teams maximize every inbound touchpoint and convert more leads into customers. https://www.callrail.com/proveit?utm_campaign=q4_2025_marketing_millennials_podcast&utm_medium=thirdparty_advertising&utm_source=marketingmillennials Follow Chris: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisclickup/ Follow Daniel: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-murray-marketing/ Sign up for The Marketing Millennials newsletter: https://themarketingmillennials.com/ Daniel is a Workweek friend, working to produce amazing podcasts. To find out more, visit: https://workweek.com/
We're excited to bring on Elena Levi, Director of Product Management at Payoneer, data analytics veteran, and passionate advocate for product-driven teams, for a special episode exploring what it's really like to use Lovable and other AI-powered vibe coding tools in product development.Elena shares insights from 15 years in data analytics and product, with the journey from data analyst to product leadership fueling her curiosity about how AI can reshape prototyping, design, and collaboration. Drawing from hands-on experience building predictive analytics solutions, Elena reveals why she chose Lovable for fast prototyping, user testing, product sense interviews, and collaborating with both developers and designers.Join Matt, Moshe, and Elena as they explore:The strengths and limitations of Lovable for prototyping: rapid iteration, easy sharing, changing flows on the fly, user testing, and developer handoffWhen vibe coding works, and where you still need engineering and design expertiseThe realities of code generation, versioning, Supabase integration, and why Lovable stood out from the competition at the time she chose itUsing Lovable for product sense interviewsPractical tips: breaking tasks into smaller prompts, saving tokens with up-front documents, and why the first prompt is the most importantThe trade-offs of using AI tools for MVPs, B2B vs. B2C products, and where privacy and maintainability concerns come inResponses from engineers and designers, what these tools mean for their work, learning curves, and whether they help or hinder junior team membersExpectations vs. reality: how close AI tools get you to the finish line, and why “the last mile” is the toughestConundrums, gotchas, frustrations, and how to keep flexibility in your workflowWhy do PMs must always ask “Why?”, and why AI alone can't replace a critical data mindsetAnd much more!Want to connect with Elena or learn more?LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elena-levi-dataYou can also connect with us and find more episodes:Product for Product Podcast: http://linkedin.com/company/product-for-product-podcastMatt Green: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattgreenproductMoshe Mikanovsky: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mikanovskyNote: Any views mentioned in the podcast are the sole views of our hosts and guests, and do not represent the products mentioned in any way.Please leave us a review and feedback ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
¡Bienvenido al episodio #544 de “Con Licencia Para Vender”! En esta edición, Jorge Zamora responde una de las preguntas más frecuentes en el mundo comercial: ¿cuál es el mejor CRM para tu negocio? Si eres gerente de ventas, emprendedor o lideras equipos comerciales, este episodio te ayudará a elegir la herramienta adecuada para potenciar tus resultados. Jorge Zamora comparte desde su propia experiencia cómo tomar la mejor decisión al seleccionar un CRM, analizando los factores clave que debes considerar: tu experiencia previa con la herramienta, el tipo de productos o servicios que vendes, y si cuentas con apoyo en marketing dentro de tu empresa. A través de ejemplos fáciles de entender, compara distintos tipos de CRM, desde los más simples hasta los más sofisticados y explica por qué no siempre conviene elegir el más completo si no lo vas a aprovechar al máximo. En este episodio descubrirás cómo evitar los errores más comunes que se cometen a la hora de contratar un CRM, cómo identificar el sistema más adecuado según tu tamaño de negocio y tipo de venta, y por qué es fundamental no pagar por funcionalidades que nunca usarás. Además, conocerás los pros y contras de plataformas populares como Infusionsoft, ClickFunnels y Go High Level, y recibirás consejos prácticos para sacarles verdadero provecho. Como siempre, Jorge Zamora te ofrece recursos gratuitos, como talleres prácticos sobre cómo exprimir al máximo tu CRM y soporte personalizado para ayudarte en la implementación. Si buscas que tu inversión en tecnología realmente impacte tus ventas, este episodio te dará claridad y soluciones concretas.
This week—and next week—we take a look back at the conversations we've had over the past year, highlighting some of our happiest, smartest, funniest, and most difficult exchanges, including Paul Downs on how he diced which employees to lay off, Jennifer Kerhin on asking ChatGPT to review her performance as CEO, Kate Morgan on why she's been reluctant to raise her prices, Liz Picarazzi on her search for a domestic manufacturer for her trash enclosures, Ari Weinzweig on why Zingerman's charges so much for a hamburger, and David C. Barnett on why your business is probably worth more to you owning it than selling it.
Fred and Sherrod were top-tier corporate sales performers pulling in six-figure salaries before they realized that the local "dirty" businesses—like junk haulers and carpet cleaners—were actually out-earning them while enjoying significantly more freedom. Tired of the "gilded cage" of corporate America, this US Army veteran duo walked away from their Fortune 500 careers to build Accelerated Waste Solutions. Today, they've turned a borrowed pickup truck into a national system that generates $1 million a month with a staggering 60% gross profit margin.In this episode, Fred and Sherrod join Ryan Atkinson to break down their recession-proof playbook for building a high-margin service business. They dive deep into why they prioritize B2B contracts over B2C, explaining the strategic shift from "renting" customers to "owning" them through recurring revenue. You'll learn the mathematical secrets behind their "Bigger Trucks, Better Pricing" competitive advantage and how they used a patented junk removal app to bring transparency and technology to the waste management industry.From leveraging relationships at the local Chamber of Commerce to the conviction required to turn down a $5 million acquisition offer, Fred and Sherrod share the grit and systems needed to scale a successful franchise. Whether you're interested in business acquisition, startup advice for service-based businesses, or transitioning from sales to CEO, this interview provides the roadmap to financial independence. Stay tuned for their "fan blitz" where they reveal the essential tools—like the humble dolly and scoop shovel—that save their teams hours of labor every single weekTakeaways:- The realization that local service providers often out-earn six-figure corporate employees can be the ultimate catalyst for leaving the corporate ladder.- Focusing on B2B contracts with apartment complexes allows a business to "own" a customer through recurring revenue rather than "renting" them for one-time residential events.- Successful business opportunities often stem from solving personal daily frustrations, such as the inconvenience of transporting trash across a large residential property.- Maintaining a 60% gross profit margin is achievable by using larger trucks and precise mathematical volume calculations to offer the most competitive price per cubic yard.- Integrating patented technology like photo-based reporting creates a transparency "trust factor" that differentiates a service business from competitors who use bait-and-switch pricing.- Prioritizing community relationships and joining local chambers of commerce is often more effective for long-term growth than immediate, unguided prospecting.- Entrepreneurs must identify their "Achilles' heels" early on and utilize resources like AI or specialized sales training to offset their personal skill gaps.- Investing in simple but essential equipment like heavy-duty dollies and scoop shovels prevents unprofessionalism and saves hours of physical labor on the job site.- Maximizing daily efficiency requires a purposeful routing plan for both service calls and prospecting before even leaving the house in the morning.- Having a clear vision and a "why" beyond just money provides the conviction necessary to turn down premature multi-million dollar acquisition offers in favor of long-term scaling.Tags: Side Hustle, Entrepreneurship, B2B, Business Mindset, Startup, Customer Retention, Junk Hauling Resources:Grow your business today: https://links.upflip.com/the-business-startup-and-growth-blueprint-podcast Connect with Fred and Sherrod:https://www.instagram.com/awsfranchise/?hl=en
In this conversation, Stan Suchkov CEO and Co-founder of Evolve discusses his entrepreneurial journey, emphasizing the importance of building diverse teams, navigating the challenges of startup funding, and the significance of hiring strategies. He shares insights on sales for both B2B and B2C markets, the impact of AI on learning, and the mindset required for long-term success in entrepreneurship. The discussion also touches on the value of connecting with influential entrepreneurs for guidance and inspiration.TakeawaysHire the person you don't like to balance your weaknesses.Building relationships with investors is crucial before fundraising.Actions speak louder than words when it comes to showing traction.Surround yourself with supportive people who can help you.Seek feedback from others to improve your product.Establish a clear company culture from the start.Start selling by yourself to gain valuable insights.Understand your market and budget for B2C products.Focus on one idea to avoid spreading yourself too thin.Connecting with experienced entrepreneurs can provide valuable insights.Interesting Topics00:00 The Importance of Diverse Teams02:54 Navigating the Startup Journey05:36 Building Relationships for Funding08:40 Hiring Strategies for Startups11:28 Sales Insights for B2B and B2C14:11 The Entrepreneurial Mindset17:20 Connecting with Influential EntrepreneursWhether you're launching your first startup, raising capital, or building a team around emerging AI technologies, this episode delivers real-world lessons you won't hear in a pitch deck.
In this episode of Demand Gen Studio, we discussed how to set up effective Google Ad campaigns for B2B companies. We explore the fundamental differences between B2B and B2C advertising, including the importance of understanding the unique challenges and opportunities within the B2B space.The discussion covers key strategies for campaign setup, how to align your offer, messaging, and audience targeting to optimize ad performance, and other practical tips for marketers looking to enhance their Google Ads strategies in the B2B sector.00:00 Intro01:38 Differences Between Google Ads for B2B vs B2C09:26 Campaign Types for B2B10:21 High Intent20:03 Bidding for Your Brand25:21 Bidding for Your Competitor's Brand27:50 Adjacent Demand34:27 Three Pillars of an Effective Campaign47:45 Optimizing Your Campaigns
Hey everybody! Welcome back to another rad-tastic episode of the People of Packaging podcast. Today, I'm sitting down with Jamie Lo, the co-founder and CEO of Laibl.We're diving deep into the massive “chasm” that exists between legacy packaging manufacturers and the modern brands who need them. If you've ever felt like procurement is a slow-moving dinosaur, this episode is for you. Jamie is building a platform that doesn't just match brands with suppliers—it uses AI to fix the broken behaviors that have been holding our industry back for decades.
Many women feel invisible or silenced during hard seasons. Putting pressure on themselves to suck it up and push through. My guest this week, Heidi Schalk, believes that visibility is a healing and transformational act for women and she wants to help get them there. Heidi's story is incredibly powerful — from single motherhood and burnout to rebuilding your life and business. Heidi Schalk is the co-founder of HLH Growth Solutions, an author, speaker, and host of two top-ranking shows: The Be S.H.E. Podcast (Be Seen. Be Heard. Be Empowered.) and the Business Growth Spotlight Podcast. Heidi believes success is not reserved for a select few. It's available to anyone willing to be seen, step into their voice, and claim the life they dream of. Her work is centered on empowering others to lead with authenticity, courage, and possibility.On this guest episode, Heidi shares about when she first realize she was hiding and how she found the courage to be seen again. She also talks about the moment that sparked her own awakening & transformation the led her to create the Be S.H.E podcast to encourage Women to be seen, heard, and empowered. Heidi offers advice for Women who feel called to lead but are terrified to be visible and how women can step into leadership without falling into the patterns of competition, perfectionism, or self-sacrifice. And she tells how healing and inner work influenced her business success in building multiple businesses both B2C and B2B and now running a successful growth agency. Finally, together we discuss how burnout is not as a time problem, but an alignment problem and why so many women struggle with receiving love, money, support, & visibility and how to shift that.Bio:Heidi Schalk is the co-founder of HLH Growth Solutions, an author, speaker, and host of two top-ranking shows: The Be S.H.E. Podcast (Be Seen. Be Heard. Be Empowered.) and the Business Growth Spotlight Podcast. She is a contributing author in Heart Talks Volume 1 and has been featured on FOX, ABC, NBC, CBS, and The Daily Herald. She was also named one of the Top 30 Inspiring Entrepreneurs to Look Out for in 2024 by The NYC Journal. For the past five years, Heidi has helped women break through their limits, achieve their goals, and build online businesses they truly love. Along the way, she learned firsthand that while entrepreneurship isn't easy, it can be simple, aligned, and fun with the right support and strategy.In 2025, she made a bold pivot building a six-figure-plus marketing and visibility agency in just seven months. Today, Heidi helps leaders, experts, and companies grow their brand authority, expand their audience, and generate demand through strategic visibility, content ecosystems, and “podcast-to-pipeline” systems. Most recently, Heidi has expanded HLH Growth Solutions with cutting-edge AI tools including the AI Receptionist and the Sales Analyzer, designed to help businesses reduce workload, increase conversions, and accelerate growth with smart automation. These solutions allow companies to create 24/7 customer experiences, analyze sales opportunities in real time, and scale with efficiency.A mom of two teenagers (16 and 14), Heidi credits her children as the catalyst for her entrepreneurial journey. As an animal lover, she often fosters and transports pets in need, helping them find their forever homes.Links:Spotlight to Scale Blueprint: Spotlight to Scale BlueprintInstagram: @heidischalkcoaching Heidi Schalk (@heidischalkcoaching) • Instagram photos and videosLInkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heidischalkcoachingWebsite: hlhgrowthsolutions.comWebsite: Business Strategy Coach
This week, special guest Rich Jordan takes us inside a marketing challenge presented by his successful acquisition of home services businesses. Do you keep the legacy names of those businesses to preserve local trust—at the cost of running a fragmented, inefficient marketing operation? Do you take the strongest brand you own and roll it out everywhere, even if it may not translate from one community to the next? Or do you wipe the slate clean and create an entirely new brand to unify the whole operation—knowing that it means walking away from money you've already sunk into branding your biggest location? In a conversation with Shawn Busse and Jay Goltz, Rich walks through how he wrestled with those choices, why he ultimately made the call he did, and what he learned along the way. His takeaways included that there are still people who listen to radio, that an authentic story can compete with private equity, and that it is possible to find a marketing agency that will align its interests with yours.
A CMO Confidential Interview with Tom Stein, the Chairman and founder of Stein and Jann Schwarz, Senior Director of Marketplace Innovation at LinkedIn and founder of Think tank, The B2B Institute, who join us to discuss the 2025 Brand-to- Demand Maturity and the B2B Buyability studies. Tom and Jann share results showing the need to integrate brand and performance marketing in an era when the marketing funnel has collapsed needs fundamental re-thinking and Marketing Qualified Leads (MQLs) are still a key measure (in spite of data showing they've lost their usefulness). Tom and Jann explain why nearly all survey respondents acknowledge a problem but only 20% are taking action. Key topics include: why a good product or service are now "table stakes”; how buyer confidence, human connection and customer experience have become key Buyability differentiators; and the belief that B2B creative is way behind B2C on average. Tune in to hear why “demand-focused marketing" was one of the greatest brand misdirects of all time and a fabulous story of an alter boy accidentally dropping the Baby Jesus. The Truth Behind the Curtain in B2B: Brand + Demand, MQLs, and “Buyability” with Tom Stein & Jan SchwartzDescription:Mike Linton sits down with Tom Stein (Stein) and Jan Schwartz (LinkedIn's B2B Institute) to unpack new ANA research on brand–demand maturity and a bold operating model they call “buyability.” They cover why 80% of marketers say integration matters but aren't doing it, why MQLs are failing modern buying groups, how to financialize creative and brand, and what CEOs/boards should actually measure to accelerate revenue. Chapters:00:00 Intro & guest setup02:36 Why a brand–demand maturity study now05:36 The 80% integration gap07:17 Org design: why teams move slowly09:36 MQLs under fire (and better alternatives)10:45 Creative quality in B2B: reality check13:34 ServiceNow, Idris Elba, and distinctive assets15:01 The CEO/CFO/Board disconnect19:00 “Buyability” explained: becoming easier to buy22:12 Brand as a full-funnel commercial driver23:40 The funnel is broken; AI ups the stakes26:59 Playing offense: fewer, better buyer-group leads28:20 Financializing the case for change29:56 The budget stat that shocked everyone31:41 What to do now: category fame, trust, real metrics34:41 Funniest stories and practical parting advice37:35 Wrap & where to find more episodesTags:B2B marketing,brand and demand,buyability,MQL,pipeline velocity,CMO Confidential,Mike Linton,Tom Stein,Jan Schwartz,LinkedIn B2B Institute,ANA,B2B brand,B2B demand gen,marketing measurement,go to market,Salesforce,ServiceNow,Idris Elba,B2B creative,category fame,board metrics,CFO,CEO,CRO,sales alignment,MarTech,lead gen,buyer groups,brand strategy,revenue growthSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
Today, we are thrilled to welcome Ethan King as our guest. Ethan is an entrepreneur and author who coaches individuals on AI through the Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO). He joins us today to share insights on entrepreneurship, books, and life. He also explains how small business owners can implement AI. Stay tuned as Ethan breaks down practical AI strategies that any entrepreneur can start using today. Ethan's Journey Ethan has been an entrepreneur for 25 years. He began with a passion for art and a pivot into graphic design. While in college, a class project evolved into a real e-commerce business supplying fraternity and sorority gear. Over time, he expanded into Zeus Closet, a retail and custom apparel business serving entertainment, corporate, and educational markets. Starting with only $700 alongside his future wife and business partner, Ethan emphasizes creative problem-solving and simplicity in business. His focus on automation began in 2011 and eventually evolved into AI, which he has been teaching and applying in practical ways across his businesses for the past three years. Entrepreneurs' Organization (EO) and Accelerator Ethan considers EO and its Accelerator program his practical MBA. After joining EO in 2014, he applied systems and frameworks to scale his businesses, focusing on people, cash, strategy, and execution. Since then, he has coached other entrepreneurs through the Accelerator program, helping them reach the million-dollar revenue milestone. He highlights the value of peer learning, mentorship, and surrounding oneself with a like-minded community as essential elements for business growth. Wealth Beyond Money In his book Wealth Beyond Money, Ethan introduces his six dimensions of success: spirituality, intellect, money, physical presence, love, and entertainment, spelling SIMPLE. He recommends constant calibration across those areas, rather than balance. The book, inspired by a TEDx-style talk in 2014, became a bestseller in multiple categories. The AI Evolution After his wife introduced him to ChatGPT in 2022, Ethan immediately implemented it in his businesses and demonstrated its power to other EO marketing chairs. Recognizing the demand, he began teaching AI strategies to business owners and wrote ChatGPT to Double Your Business in 90 Days. He updates the book continuously, providing readers with fresh content and practical tools for implementing AI efficiently. Implementing AI in Business Ethan used AI in his own business as a testing ground before he began teaching others, applying tools like voice agents, social media automation, and custom AI solutions to improve efficiency and scale operations with minimal resources. His approach focuses on practicality, so he only teaches methods that genuinely benefit everyday business owners in B2B and B2C contexts. Perspective on AI Adoption Ethan has noticed that most entrepreneurs are aware of AI but are barely scratching the surface. Experts using AI are rare, while some people remain resistant. He highlights proactive learning, noting that AI will replace jobs for those who ignore it, but can create opportunities for those who embrace it. He draws parallels to past technological shifts to illustrate the transformative potential of AI. Work-Life Integration and Partnership Ethan explains that working with his wife in business has strengthened their relationship. She handles operational responsibilities while he focuses on vision and creativity. He stresses the importance of shared goals and complementary roles, describing their partnership as a battlefield collaboration that builds resilience and alignment. Year-End Advice for Small Business Owners Ethan recommends three key actions: invest in AI learning and team training, upgrade necessary equipment and software, and intentionally reflect and plan for the upcoming year. He encourages people to create vision movies as a tool to emotionally engage with people's personal and business goals, integrating reflection and planning into a meaningful process that drives results. Connect with Eric Rozenberg On LinkedIn Facebook Instagram Website Listen to The Business of Meetings podcast Subscribe to The Business of Meetings newsletter Connect with Ethan King On his Website LinkedIn
Karl-Moritz Hermann, Gründer von reliant.ai, spricht über den Weg von DeepMind zum eigenen KI-Startup. Er teilt, warum sie bewusst B2B statt B2C wählten, wie sie durch Benchmarks echte Probleme identifizierten und warum manchmal 85% Genauigkeit hervorragend und manchmal katastrophal sein können. Was du lernst: Die richtige KI-Produktstrategie finden Wie man echte Probleme identifiziert Warum Benchmarks entscheidend sind Den richtigen Mix aus Forschung und Anwendung ALLES ZU UNICORN BAKERY: https://stan.store/fabiantausch Mehr zu Karl-Moritz: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlmoritz/ Reliant AI: https://www.reliant.ai/ Join our Founder Tactics Newsletter: 2x die Woche bekommst du die Taktiken der besten Gründer der Welt direkt ins Postfach: https://www.tactics.unicornbakery.de/
Send us a textIn this episode, we unpack how a sales recruiting business scaled from $100K per month to $7M in cash collected and why the growth ultimately wasn't worth the stress. We explore rapid offer pivots during the pandemic, launching B2B and B2C divisions simultaneously, equity partnerships gone wrong, and the critical mistake of scaling faster than leadership and systems could handle. A candid look at why more revenue doesn't always mean more freedom.Learn how to invest in real estate with the Cashflow 2.0 System! Your business in a box with 1:1 coaching, motivated seller leads, & softwares. https://www.wealthyinvestor.com/Want to work 1:1 with Ryan Pineda? Apply at ryanpineda.comJoin our FREE community, weekly calls, and bible studies for Christian entrepreneurs and business people. https://tentmakers.us/Want to grow your business and network with elite entrepreneurs on world-class golf courses? Apply now to join Mastermind19 – Ryan Pineda's private golf mastermind for high-level founders and dealmakers. www.mastermind19.com--- About Ryan Pineda: Ryan Pineda has been in the real estate industry since 2010 and has invested in over $100,000,000 of real estate. He has completed over 700 flips and wholesales, and he owns over 650 rental units. As an entrepreneur, he has founded seven different businesses that have generated 7-8 figures of revenue. Ryan has amassed over 2 million followers on social media and has generated over 1 billion views online. Starting as a minor league baseball player making less than $2,000 a month, Ryan is now worth over $100 million. He shares his experiences in building wealth and believes that anyone can change their life with real estate investing. ...
Franchise Fit Podcast (formerly Eye on Franchising) is back with another powerhouse episode — and today's guest is disrupting an entire industry. Meet Daniel McCarty, CEO & Founder of JunkStart, the first and only pay-by-weight junk removal franchise that's redefining pricing, margins, and customer trust in a category that desperately needed innovation.If you think junk removal is a crowded, me-too home services space… buckle up.Daniel exposes “inside baseball” secrets of the industry, the infamous grandma tax, why traditional volume-based pricing makes no sense, and how JunkStart engineered a patented pay-by-weight model that transformed revenue, margins, and customer experience.We also break down territory size, investment levels, ideal franchisee profiles, enterprise value, B2B vs B2C mix, marketing strategy, and why 99 out of 100 franchises are not worth owning unless there's true differentiation.This episode is sponsored by SEO Samba — AI-driven marketing for franchisors and franchisees.
In our penultimate episode of the year, annual podcast guest and friend Trent Guyer returns to talk about all our favorite topics: AI, e-commerce, and small teams doing big things. Being the Christmas season, of course gifts are exchanged and toasts are made—but the real present is having Trent in the studio with us to chat marketing.Among the gems dropped this episode:“Data makes you fast, your gut keeps you right.”69% of B2B businesses cite bad data as their biggest barrier to fully leveraging AI.89% of B2B customers plan to use AI tools to purchase products next year, compared to 34% of B2C customers.“Don't ever give a customer a reason to regret after the fact doing business with you.”And more!So grab some eggnog and your favorite blanket, and join us as we have another epic discussion with the VP of Marketing and Digital Strategy at Grasshopper Mowers, Trent Guyer.Next week: Sam and Roop wrap 2025, Spotify-style!—Trent, Sam, Roop, Claudia, and ChelseaTell us what you think!
Send us a textIn this Office Hours episode, Optidge SEO Manager, Dorit Sasson, shares how her experience abroad as a lieutenant in the Israel Defense Forces shaped her collaborative, team-focused approach to digital marketing and SEO strategy. Drawing from her vast experience teaching, writing, and working with Fortune 500 B2B companies, Dorit discusses how to find ranking opportunities in competitive markets through educational and multimedia-rich content. She also reflects on SEO's evolution in the age of AI, emphasizing the importance of balancing innovation with proven best practices. Listeners will walk away with practical insights for managing expectations, earning stakeholder buy-in, and achieving long-term SEO success. An Optidge "Office Hours" EpisodeOur Office Hours episodes are your go-to for details, how-to's, and advice on specific marketing topics. Join our fellow Optidge team members, and sometimes even 1:1 teachings from Danny himself, in these shorter, marketing-focused episodes every few weeks. Get ready to get marketing!Episode Highlights: Dorit's time in the military instilled a team-first mindset that shapes her approach to SEO, valuing humility, adaptability, and collective success over individual recognition. Her transition from teaching ESL to mastering SEO highlights how teaching and mentorship reinforce expertise, and how curiosity fuels long-term growth in a fast-paced field. Dorit's attention to detail when it comes to page rankings suggests there is untapped potential using educational content, glossaries, and multimedia engagements. While AI has revolutionized SEO strategy, Dorit emphasizes that technology should amplify creativity and understanding, not replace it. Dorit stresses the importance of managing expectations, communicating value, and positioning SEO as a long-term investment in sustained business growth. Episode Links:Dorit Sasson on LinkedInOptidge's SEO ServicesFollow The Digital Marketing Mentor: Website and Blog: thedmmentor.com Instagram: @thedmmentor Linkedin: @thedmmentor YouTube: @thedmmentor Interested in Digital Marketing Services, Careers, or Courses? Check out more from the TDMM Family: Optidge.com - Full Service Digital Marketing Agency specializing in SEO, PPC, Paid Social, and Lead Generation efforts for established B2C and B2B businesses and organizations. ODEOacademy.com - Digital Marketing online education and course platform. ODEO gives you solid digital marketing knowledge to launch/boost your career or understand your business's digital marketing strategy.
What if planning your year could feel motivating, expansive, and actually fun? In this episode, I walk you through exactly how I'm preparing for 2026—mindset, strategy, rhythm, and the behind-the-scenes reality of being a mom, therapist, and entrepreneur all at once. I share the rituals, tools, and questions I use every year to plan intentionally, avoid burnout, and build a business and life that actually feel good. From reviewing revenue to mapping out launches to honoring your real-life capacity, this is the episode that will flip planning on its head and make you excited for what's ahead. This is my final solo episode of 2025, and I wanted it to be a powerful one. If planning usually stresses you out, let this episode be the mindset reset, the strategy spark, and the permission slip you've been needing. Topics Covered in this Episode: 3:29 - The planning mistakes I made early on (and what finally changed everything) 7:11 - How motherhood, capacity, and seasons actually shape your business success 10:57 - The must-run financial reports that tell you exactly how to plan 2026 13:37 - My launch-timing breakdown for both B2B and B2C therapists 16:25 - The three mantras guiding my entire 2026 strategy 22:48 - The "12-Week Year" mindset shift that can radically collapse your timelines 25:02 - How sprints (not marathons) keep you focused, energized, and out of burnout Thank you so much for tuning in to this episode of The Entrepreneurial Therapist. If this conversation helped you feel more grounded, inspired, or clear about your 2026 vision, it would mean the world if you subscribed and left a quick review. And a huge thank-you to our sponsors, Alma and Simple Practice, for supporting therapists in building sustainable, aligned, thriving practices. If you want to go deeper, check out the full 2026 Planning Workshop—your year is waiting. Resources Mentioned: End of Year Planning workshop: https://danielle-s-school8.teachable.com/p/end-of-year-workshop Calendar I Bought to Plan the End of the Year: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B2P39G1W?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_fed_asin_title Find out more about Alma here: helloalma.com/danielle Take 50% off your first 4 months of Simple Practice + a 7 day free trial using the link: simplepractice.com/danielle
If you've ever said, “I hate tech, I just want this to work,” this episode is your blueprint. Kerri M. Roberts sits down with systems and automation expert Brenda Breland of Build Business Academy and BuildDesk, who helps small business owners automate leads, follow-up, and client journeys - without needing a full-time ops or marketing team. Learn how to plug the money leaks in your follow-up, use automation that feels human, and build simple systems that let you serve your clients with excellence.They unpack the difference between AI that tries to replace you and automation that actually amplifies you, so your clients still feel seen, known, and cared for. Together, Kerri and Brenda walk through why every business, even the tiniest shop, needs a CRM from day one, what smart follow-up really looks like, and how to think through whether you're called to serve B2B, B2C, or both.Underneath all of it is a simple, biblical principle: faithful stewardship. When you care for the systems behind your business and the body God has given you, you're freed up to lead, love, and serve at a higher level. This episode will help you see where your systems may be working against you - and what to do about it before the year ends.Key TakeawaysMost small businesses are leaking money in their follow-up.Automation should amplify you, not replace you.Every business needs a CRM from day one.Content that converts starts with connection.Follow-up is the one automation you can't afford to ignore.Resources✨ HR in a Box – Your Fractional HR Partner for Small Business If you're growing a business and want to build people systems that honor your team and protect your company, HR in a Box gives you the tools, templates, and guidance you need—without the cost of a full-time HR department. From compliant hiring to performance conversations, it's designed to help you lead with clarity, integrity, and confidence. www.saltandlightadvisors.com/hrinabox
Aujourd'hui, je vous retrouve pour une nouvelle leçon du mercredi, un format où j'aide l'un d'entre vous à avancer concrètement dans son projet.Et cette semaine, je reçois Winter Joseph, entrepreneur dans l'immobilier depuis 7 ans, qui relance un nouveau réseau d'affaires… après en avoir déjà monté un premier.Son défi :
MENOS CURSITIS Y MÁS RESULTADOS DE VENTAS Regístrate en el Top Team de Ventashttps://www.detonadoresdevalor.com/topHoy te voy a enseñar cómo venderle al cliente más difícil de todos: el cliente saturado. El que recibe 200 correos al día, 40 mensajes de WhatsApp, 3 propuestas iguales a la tuya y que ya no tiene paciencia para escuchar tu pitch de cinco minutos.Te voy a mostrar por qué la atención del cliente cayó a niveles históricos (Microsoft, LinkedIn, Gartner y Forrester lo confirman) y cómo adaptar tu mensaje para que te escuchen, te entiendan y te compren.Vamos a hablar de micro-mensajes, comunicación quirúrgica, cómo eliminar ruido, cómo liderar una conversación en menos de 20 segundos y cómo diferenciarte en un mundo donde todos dicen lo mismo.Si vendes B2B, B2C, servicios, productos o ideas, este episodio te va a ayudar a generar claridad, autoridad y respuesta inmediata.00:00 — Intro02:52 — Punto 1: tu cliente vive saturado.06:20 — Punto 2: más precisión igual a más persuasión.10:02 — Punto 3: muchas opciones es igual a parálisis por análisis.15:46 — Punto 4: el cliente saturado no lee… escanea / ojea.20:51 — Punto 7: simplifica para vender más.22:36 — Punto 8: preguntas, la herramienta más peligrosa de las ventas.24:39 — Punto 9: dale un break a tus clientes30:42 — Punto número 9.5: el vendedor es un curador, no un catálogo.34:17 — ConclusiónMENOS CURSITIS Y MÁS RESULTADOS DE VENTAS Regístrate en el Top Team de Ventashttps://www.detonadoresdevalor.com/top Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
It can pay off to borrow sales strategies from outside your usual lane. My guest, Kam Dasani, entrepreneur and investor, brings B2C secrets into the B2B sales world and uses what he has stolen from consumer marketing to make smarter moves. In this episode, he breaks down the tactics that helped him grow faster and shows how you can use them to triple your pipeline.Meet Kam DasaniKam Dasani is a former Silicon Valley tech sales rep who went from earning 120K a year in B2B sales to building a seven-million-dollar business. He applied key B2C secrets he had stolen from consumer marketing, using directness, pre-qualification, and transparency to transform his B2B approach and accelerate growth.Today, he helps others build passive income through trading and investing while encouraging sales professionals to take smart risks, stay authentic, and focus on what truly drives results.Why B2C Secrets Belong in B2B Sales (00:01:19 – 00:03:59)Right off the bat, Kam goes into showing how stolen B2C secrets can transform B2B sales, especially with their marketing tactics.From Tech Sales to Entrepreneurship (00:04:07 – 00:06:12)Kam explains how he went from earning 120K a year in tech sales to building a seven-million-dollar business. His contrarian mindset and willingness to take calculated risks shaped the B2B sales approach he uses today.Identifying B2B Sales Gaps (00:08:10 – 00:16:54)Kam highlights common gaps in B2B sales, including weak training, fear of asking tough questions, and reliance on conventional tactics. He shows how embracing risk and applying stolen B2C secrets can overcome these challenges.B2C-Inspired Sales Process & Qualifying Leads (00:17:01 – 00:26:47)Kam shares how he leverages Instagram ads, direct messaging, and pre-qualification processes to improve lead quality. Using these B2C secrets in B2B sales allows him to build a stronger, more efficient pipeline.Results & Key Takeaways (00:29:15 – 00:34:12)Kam reveals the ROI from transparent, pre-framed sales calls and targeted campaigns. He emphasizes that allowing reps to be authentic, rather than forcing a strict “culture fit,” drives real results in B2B sales."Imagine if we could take some B2C secrets and apply them to B2B sales to fill your funnel and create far more opportunities than you have right now, increasing sales and generating more commission." - Kam Dasani.ResourcesFollow Kam Dasani on Instagram at @profitwithkam and connect with him on LinkedIn to stay inspired by his journey and strategies. Head to bluemangostudios.com to see exactly how my podcasting agency can help you create and grow a podcast that entertains, educates, and brings in quality leads.https://www.instagram.com/profitwithkamSubscribe on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/build-relation/newsletter-follow?entityUrn=7396352571981889536Sponsorship OffersThis episode is brought to you in part by HubSpot. With HubSpot sales hubs, your data tools and teams join a single platform to close deals and turn prospects into pipelines. Try it for yourself at hubspot.com/sales. This episode is brought to you in part by LinkedIn.Are you tired of prospective clients not responding to your emails? Sign up for a free 60-day trial of LinkedIn Sales Navigator at linkedin.com/tse.This episode is brought to you in part by the TSE Sales Foundation. Improve your connection on LinkedIn and land three or five appointments with our LinkedIn prospecting course....