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The internet's only podcast. Very Legal, Very Cool is a glimpse into the raw, pulsating psyche of two white guys from the Midwest as they tackle the issues that no one cares about or even knew were issues before listening.

Jared and Josiah

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    • Jun 28, 2021 LATEST EPISODE
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    • 55 EPISODES

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    my God has two arms

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 28, 2021 100:58


    The season finale! In today's episode, Randy (Josiah's dad) joins Josiah to talk about his faith journey from drugs and rock music to Golden Dawn occultism, on to a born again conversion to Christianity during the 90s. We discuss the rise of the charismatic movement bringing him to Reformed theology, and the impact all of this had on Josiah's faith growing up. 16 Shells from a 30.6 - Tom WaitsDig, Lazarus, Dig!! - Nick Cave & the Bad SeedsFlood - Jars of ClayEntertaining Angels - NewsboysYou Are The One - Keith GreenReality - NewsboysThe Church's One Foundation - The Scottish Festival SingersTonight - The O.C. SupertonesThere is a Kingdom - Nick Cave & the Bad SeedsEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    religion is not for everyone

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 21, 2021 86:04


    In today's episode, Monikpal (@MonikpalSingh) joins Josiah to discuss Sikhi, interfaith, and the divide between Eastern and Western religions. He clarifies some major misconceptions about the faith, and we talk about the similarities and differences between Sikhi and Christianity.Lovely Allen - Holy FuckSkin Game - DIIVExpect the Bayonet - Sheer MagI'm On Fire - ElectrelaneEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    God is one

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 14, 2021 79:06


    In today's episode, Kyle (@mma_marxian) joins Josiah to talk about his recent conversion to Islam. We trace his journey from southern evangelicalism (both charismatic and reformed) into agnosticism, Buddhism, and mainline Christianity before eventually coming to the conclusion that God is one.Every Thought a Thought of You - mewithoutYouWolves at the Door - David BazanAllah Allah Allah - mewithoutYouEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    gay jewish christianity

    Play Episode Listen Later Jun 7, 2021 50:01


    In today's episode, Sam (@motherenergy__) joins Josiah to discuss her religious journey from orthodox Judaism to Episcopal Christianity, liberal Christian anti-semitism, and the weird communities that the internet fosters.Green - Young JesusChristian Brothers - Heatmiser, Elliott SmithEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    overthrowing physics (the soulism episode)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 31, 2021 84:06


    In today's episode, Lennox (@coolzonepod) and Shea (@shea_said) from Cool Zone join Josiah to investigate the incredibly obscure political philosophy, Soulism: a form of anarchism that seeks to abolish and/or overcome the laws of physics themselves.Special thanks to Elis for the interview at 1:00:20Are Friends Electric? - The Dead WeatherForce of Habit - Paris TexasLet's Write a Book - Field MusicWave of History - Downtown BoysLinksPolitical compassMeme that Josiah lovedr/serioussoulism is the primary subreddit we exploredThere is also r/soulism101 and r/soulismIn Service of the Mute God by u/notbob17Soulist-EternalismLogic: the Uncovering of QuintessenceRedcat's TwitterJackson (@jhussy42)Burgundian systemEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    nested issues (the one about jack chick)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 24, 2021 64:55


    cw: talk of sexual abuse / child abuse. In today's episode, Joseph (@Gross_Online) joins Josiah to discuss Jack Chick, the legacy of Chick Publications, his theological influences, and a tract that even Chick himself would later find distasteful. I Wanna Believe - Jennie LawlessA Quick Death - Paris TexasI Walk This Earth All By Myself - EkkstacyCovered in Chrome - Violent SohoLinksPalestine Emergency Appeal and Intransitive (charities from Joseph's plugs)UnderunderstoodGod's Cartoonist (2008/9)John ToddAlberto RiveraRebecca Brown (no Wikipedia page for her, only RationalWiki. Sorry)Fat CatsNo Context Chick Tracks or @No_Context_JTCLisa (content warning)Twitter NewsI'm not linking Merrick.Helldude condemns racism (here's context we found after recording)soy drehertrying to get blockedEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    don't be realistic

    Play Episode Listen Later May 17, 2021 83:36


    The Vanishing American Family - ScubaZLiving in Hell - Cobra ManHeaven or Las Vegas - Cocteau TwinsEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    summer camp theology (A Week Away)

    Play Episode Listen Later May 10, 2021 113:14


    TrailerThe Great Adventure - The Cast of Netflix's Film A Week AwayCampfire Cheers from A Week AwayBest Thing Ever (Reprise) - The Cast of Netflix's Film A Week AwayDive - Stephen Curtis ChapmanEmail us at hello@verylegalvery.coolJoin the Twitter hivemind: https://twitter.com/vlegalvcoolpodVisually stimulate yourself: www.instagram.com/verylegalverycoolpod/Audio-visually stimulate yourself: www.youtube.com/channel/UCU6LNzjByApFks97SP9s81wLive stuff https://www.twitch.tv/verylegalverycoolJoin George Soros in funding the show: https://www.patreon.com/user?u=37940154&fan_landing=trueMore at verylegalvery.cool★ Support this podcast on Patreon ★

    make monsters scary again

    Play Episode Listen Later May 3, 2021 79:10


    In today's episode, Finch (@FinchOWar) joins Josiah to talk about vampires and zombies, their origins in folklore, their literary meaning, and how we can make them cool again. Don't forget to check out Mammonburg, now streaming wherever you get your podcasts. This episode was brought to you by Colonial Zombies and Capitalist Vampires.

    having fun on the computer

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 26, 2021 78:05


    In today's episode, James (@cigarette_liker) joins Josiah to talk about evangelicalism, leaving and returning to Christianity, Twitter, irony poison, and how our beliefs are irrational (and that's okay).

    portraits of war gods

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 12, 2021 128:53


    cw: sexual violence, gore, and racism/racial slurs. In today's episode, Jackal (Mammonburg! @JackalJester) joins Josiah to discuss Caravaggio, Goya, and the Haitian Revolution. This disparate combination of topics began to synthesize into a visual history of modernity, war, colonialism, religion, and revolution from Napoleon to Aristide. The show notes for this episode are pretty helpful since a lot of our discussion focuses on visuals, and of course don't forget to check out Mammonburg, now streaming wherever you get your podcasts.

    making up a guy

    Play Episode Listen Later Apr 5, 2021 106:36


    In today's episode, Leo (@LCDickens) joins Josiah to talk about the discourse: Lil Nas X, Dr. Seuss, "cancel culture," evangelicals, exvangelicals, and why the internet sucks but can sometimes be good.

    rose 2: roses reloaded

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 29, 2021 106:47


    In today's episode, Rose (@Rose_In_Ivy) and Emily Rose (Idle Curiosities! @EmilyReineke) join Josiah to discuss reboots, sequels, nostalgia films, and 'comfort food' art. Is it good? Does it represent the death of our culture? What role does copyright law play in all this? Can Josiah make this about some philosopher he likes? Should cola go in coffee? Should Emily Rose be allowed to have a soundboard? All this and more on Very Legal Very Cool.

    the animals episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 22, 2021 142:21


    In today's episode Ross (Mr. Hands episode! @guyrespecter) and Caleb (the ocean episode! @theboghog) join Josiah for an absolute train wreck of an episode that begins with the subject "animals" and eventually becomes about a guy that tried to do trial by combat with his ex-wife. We discuss some terrible prank calls Josiah did as a child and a stupid purchase Caleb made as a child, all while working through a list of questions to ask on dates or 'for fun.' I'm sorry. Today's episode was brought to you by Bird Law.

    bullying your childhood bully

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 15, 2021 106:10


    cw: homophobic slurs, bullying. In today's episode, Solomon (@solomonjohng) and Kellar (@rallekat) join Josiah to talk about their rocky childhood friendship, the Boy Scouts pinewood derby, the depravity of theater, why stand up comedy sucks, and our different but equally tense relationships with Christianity. Also we try to say positive things about each other.

    at last, two guys talked about adam curtis on a podcast

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 8, 2021 88:40


    With Jared taking the week off to focus on work, Josh (@GnomeChamsky) from Odd Splice joins Josiah to talk about Adam Curtis' new documentary series and also Sigmund Freud and the existence of evil.

    our mental state (quizzes 3)

    Play Episode Listen Later Mar 1, 2021 31:11


    With overwhelming schoolwork and overwhelming regular work, the gang decided to do a small bonus episode today in lieu of a full length episode. We decide to take some online tests and also talk about bad experiences donating blood. CW: mention of rape

    we were kids feat. josiah

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 22, 2021 114:24


    In today's episode, Michael (@MichaelTaber) from Sh*tty Christians joins the gang as a host, with Josiah as the guest to talk about his recently released album "We Were Kids." We discuss Josiah's evangelical upbringing and divorce, and why his album really sucks.

    flat art goya paintings at local coffee startups

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 15, 2021 128:05


    In today's episode, the gang is joined by Claire (@clayohr) who Josiah met by stealing her artwork one time. We start off with a discussion about startups and venture capital, which Jared attempts to defend alongside his stance that social media and journalism should have more fees. From there, we eventually go into a conversation about working at bad local coffee shops, and then spend about an hour on the end segments. Special thanks to both our sponsors this episode: the Aryan Nation and the Nation of Islam.

    why the christian metalcore bands became godless satanists

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 8, 2021 119:57


    In today's episode, James (@cigarette_liker) joins the gang to discuss Christian metal(core) artists such as Underoath, As I Lay Dying, Demon Hunter, Norma Jean, The Chariot, and more. We discuss how many of these musicians went on to lose their faith, and how one went to prison. Also there's an intermission where James and Jared make poop jokes. Special thanks to our sponsor today: The Church of Satan.

    a troublesome episode

    Play Episode Listen Later Feb 1, 2021 136:26


    In today's episode, Chris Barker (@barker_cm) teaches the gang about The Troubles and explains why he thinks it might be an interesting allegory for what's coming soon in U.S. politics. After that somber conversation, Jared reads us the rule book for a masturbation contest. Also a surprise guest pops in for a few minutes.

    podcast lucida

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 25, 2021 129:26


    In today's episode, the gang is joined by photographer and friend, Kipp Paulsen (@kipppaulsen), to discuss street photography, photojournalism, the ethics of taking a picture, and the autobiographical side of art and gear.

    food, PR, and local politics

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 18, 2021 103:16


    In today's episode, the gang is joined by Iowa's most infamous journalist, Aaron Calvin (@aaronpcalvin), to discuss everything from local media's coverage of the Black Lives Matter protests, to the role of food journalism in local politics, to people's bizarre attachment to 2007 Runescape. Jared brings up some stuff about health care, and we enjoy going through some tweets from folks freaking out about Donald Trump's online ban.

    elon musk and donald trump don't exist

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 11, 2021 93:39


    In today's episode, Jared and Josiah are joined by Dr. Zeke Jarvis (@zekjar). A casual conversation leads us through a discussion of the January 6th coup attempt, the role evangelical media played in developing American Christofascism, how Elon Musk and Donald Trump are the results of storytelling brands, and why you should study the humanities even if you like math.

    we got worse, somehow

    Play Episode Listen Later Jan 4, 2021 93:53


    cw: brief mention of domestic abuse. Our worst episode yet. With Jared visiting Josiah for New Years, the gang hangs out with Evan (@memesbreader) and Ross (@guyrespecter, the Mr. Hands episode) to aimlessly discuss 2020 ending, our resolutions, MF Doom dying, why John Lennon sucks, and why the only bit on this show is adding "two" at the end of random words.

    what a terrible year

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 28, 2020 121:03


    Alternate title: The Value of Shitty Art. Today the gang comes together for the last episode of 2020. Jared cooks dinner while Josiah aimlessly looks for previous guests to join the show. Rose (@Rose_in_ivy) joins the gang to endeavor in a long discussion about the meaning of work, the struggle for structure throughout the pandemic year, and how that relates to Josiah and Jared's divergent political dispositions. After that, Nate (@NateT93) and Ross (@guyrespecter, the Mr. Hands episode) join the gang for a long Twitter News segment which is mostly about Eve 6.

    santa claus facts (a christmas special)

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 21, 2020 104:03


    Alternate title: "obama made christmas muslim." In today's episode, the gang decides to ask what an episode what be like if it was just a really dragged out cold open, and guests are invited on impromptu. Nate (@NateT93) and Leo (@LCDickens) joins them to hear some fun facts about Santa Claus and some weird or racist holiday traditions.

    a mural in peoria

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 3:29


    After recording episode 23, Jared decided to share a quick store with Josiah and Will (@william62572975).

    podcasting in the time of corona

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 14, 2020 108:19


    In today's episode, Will Powell (@william62572975) joins the gang to talk about our 2020 experiences, the plethora of conspiracy theories about the pandemic, the monoliths, meta-conspiracy theories, the internet being terrible, and Cyberpunk 2077.

    fear and loathing in the podcast studio

    Play Episode Listen Later Dec 7, 2020 106:39


    CW: discussion of rape, semi-detailed description of a suicide, and some discussion of transphobia during end segments. In today's episode, the gang tackles the late Hunter S. Thompson: his run for sheriff of Aspen, the death of the 1960s, the 1972 presidential campaign, the 1998 movie, and his death in 2005. Also, Jared talks about a strip club in Peoria, IL.

    more views (religion and politics)

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 30, 2020 21:37


    With finals and Thanksgiving, the gang decided to do a small bonus episode today in lieu of a full length episode. We go back and do some political and religious placement tests, and briefly talk about cat worms.

    an episode about nothing

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 23, 2020 74:57


    Nick (@Drankiero) joins the gang to do exactly what the title says. This episode is literally about nothing at all. Also Nick is a serial killer.

    the magnifiskank

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 16, 2020 80:47


    In today's episode, Matt (@Matt_Bernico) and Dean (@DeanDetloff) from the Magnificast join the gang to talk about the Holy Trinity of third wave (Christian) ska: The O.C. Supertones, Five Iron Frenzy, and The Insyderz. We also get a fun history lesson about ska, and ask whether or not ska is radical.

    the good bets man

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 9, 2020 79:06


    In today's episode, our celebrity guest, John (@Goodtweet_man), joins the gang in trying to avidly ignore the election by discussing r/wallstreetbets, Robinhood, the economy, irony poisoning, and whether Josiah ought to be Catholic.

    election day 2020

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 4, 2020 8:48


    A very, very poor quality bonus "episode" recorded drunkenly on election night with a panel of people talking over each other. The panel includes the gang, Leo (@LCDickens), Leah (@leah_johnson007), Caleb (@theboghog), Rose (@Rose_In_Ivy), and Kelli (@KeepCalmKelliOn).

    highways are racist

    Play Episode Listen Later Nov 2, 2020 108:18


    In today’s episode, Seth (@sethcloebot) joins the gang to talk about planning, Seth’s idea for a laser dome, urban renewal, technocracy, and utopian cities.

    murdering a strawman part 2 (God's Not Dead 3)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 26, 2020 116:14


    In today's episode, Seth (@jedimunchkin) joins the gang to talk about God's Not Dead: "God's Not Dead 3" A Light In Darkness. Also Jared attempts to use the phrase "poggers" as much as possible. This is part two of a two part series where Jared and Josiah watch God's Not Dead 2 and 3. CONTENT WARNING: discussion of child abuse

    murdering a strawman part 1 (God's Not Dead 2)

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 19, 2020 149:00


    In today's episode, Nate (@NateT93) joins the gang to talk about God's Not Dead 2, the song 'God's Not Dead', and how weird Evangelical art is. This is part one of a two part series where Jared and Josiah watch God's Not Dead 2 and 3. CONTENT WARNING: discussion of child abuse

    hiatuscast

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 12, 2020 48:22


    With Jared on sabbatical and the podcast on hiatus, Josh (@gnomechamsky) from Odd Splice joins Josiah for a no-format bonus episode that covers spirituality, chaos magic, Vietnam, serial killers, the problem of Evil, and some uncomfortable sincerity. Also, Jared somehow ends up on the episode despite being on sabbatical. CW: brief talk of juvenile sex offenders, Epstein stuff, and horrible violence in Vietnam

    the infamous moon landing episode from the archive

    Play Episode Listen Later Oct 5, 2020 66:52


    With Jared on hiatus, we have decided to release the original first episode of the podcast about the moon landing hoax. The original title was "They Filmed the Moon Landing in a Studio on the Moon."

    godspeed, you flat bastard

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 28, 2020 90:34


    Jared and Josiah finally confront one of the podcast's founding topics: the Flat Earth society. Josiah also complains about UPS and Apple, and Jared announces a brief hiatus.

    sh*tty creationism

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 21, 2020 122:58


    Zachary (@zachary_allard) and Michael (@michaeltaber) from Shitty Christians join the gang to talk about creationism, the Creation Museum, the Ark Encounter, Ken Ham, and Jonathan Park.

    the ocean is a scary place & i'm afraid to die

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 14, 2020 68:37


    Caleb (@theboghog, Josiah's brother!!!) joins the gang to talk about weird stuff in the ocean.

    very legal legends

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 7, 2020 115:37


    Leo (@LCDickens) joins Josiah and Jared to discuss Esports and a terrible list of 'conservative' songs. Josiah introduces a new segment to the show surrounding a Christian marital advice book. And, okay, to be honest, we struggled to stay on topic.

    our political views (this is 100% canon)

    Play Episode Listen Later Sep 2, 2020 33:33


    OUR VERY FIRST BONUS EPISODE!! In this episode, Jared and Josiah take a few political persuasion quizzes in order to clearly express our biases. As a result, Jared has an existential crisis.

    the MKULTRA one

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 31, 2020 83:44


    We did it! At last! On this episode, Jared and Josiah go back to their roots and discuss MKULTRA. CONTENT WARNING: brief discussion of rape, murder, and generally disturbing scientific studies.

    we got Q on the show

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 24, 2020 106:19


    Trevor (@starfoxcommand) joins Josiah and Jared to talk about conspiracy theories, the deep state, and QAnon.

    the neopet mafia

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 17, 2020 94:56


    Michael Roets (@paandpr) joins Jared and Josiah to talk about Neopets and his own personal experience with the Neopet black market.

    from green fairies to murderous rampage

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 10, 2020 91:58


    Rose Watson (@Rose_In_Ivy) joins Josiah and Jared to talk about absinthe, prohibition, and the politics and history of our podcast's favorite past-time: drinking alcohol. We also engage in a lengthy rant about a terrible National Review article.

    manson, the CIA, and capitalism

    Play Episode Listen Later Aug 3, 2020 108:29


    Josh (@gnomechamsky) from Odd Splice joins Josiah and Jared for our longest episode yet. We discuss Josh's personal connection to the Green family archaeology scandal, the Tate-LaBianca murders, magical ritual, MKULTRA, and Call of Duty.

    cw: bestiality (the one about horse sex)

    Play Episode Listen Later Jul 27, 2020 79:16


    Evan (@memesBREADer) and Ross (@froganoosh) from Twitter join us to talk about that time in the mid 2000s when a dude fucked a horse and died. It turns out, it's sad. CONTENT WARNING: discussion of bestiality and pedophilia

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