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Dave and Reese try to have a chill Valentine's Day at home. Tulips. Jalapeño sliders. A “French Kiss” cocktail.Instead? A towed car. Chick-fil-A timing drama. Surprise visitors. And a couples card game that somehow leads to an old “possible STD” story.They talk Type A vs. Type B marriage, early dating memories, broken windows, editing obsessions, and what actually keeps them connected.It's romantic. It's ridiculous. It's very on brand.Life is a group project. Be kind to each other.And… wear a condom.

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Grab my breakdown of the 5 Low-Cost Businesses That Make $1 Million: https://www.franchiseempire.com/lowcost?utm_source=TJJan102026Everyone thinks Chick-fil-A is the dream franchise… $10K to start, $9M+ in average sales, and people lining up out the door. But here's the truth: Owning a Chick-fil-A is nothing like owning a real business.In this video, I'm breaking down 5 reasons why I wouldn't buy a Chick-fil-A in 2026, even though I eat there 3x a week. This isn't hate. It's just what most people don't realize until it's too late.  If you're serious about building wealth through franchising, you need to understand how this game actually works.

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Welcome back to Drummers on Drumming, powered by Big Fat Snare Drum. This episode is a new installment of The Drum Panel, and it's Part One of Two diving into Chick Corea's Cheap But Good Advice For Playing Music in a Group. I'm joined by good friend of mine Rafa Vidal, who also plays with the band Almost Monday, who are currently killing it, and of course Eric Somers-Urrea is back on the panel. We start off reacting to a post from Tommy Igoe about drum education and who should really be setting the agenda in lessons. That opens the door to a bigger conversation about intention, listening, and what it actually means to function inside a band. From there, we break down the first six pieces of Chick's advice and what they look like in real life: Play only what you hear. If you don't hear anything, don't play anything. Don't let your fingers and limbs just wander—place them intentionally. Don't improvise endlessly—play something with intention, develop it or not, but then end off, take a break. Leave space—create space—intentionally create places where you don't play. Make your sound blend. Listen to your sound and adjust it to the rest of the band and the room. We also get into a Rafa's new endeavor called Touch Grooves. Check out more information on that HERE --- Get Your Copy of the Drummers on Drumming Book Today

In Episode 87 we are joined by Nathan Chick for the thirteenth episode of Rattling On. Topics discussed include offseason moves made by our favorite Minnesota sports teams, and hopes for the upcoming season, Nathan and Matt's 2025 deer hunting season, and the 2026 7th Annual Sausage Party. Thai Peanut Pheasant Bowl:Sauce/Marinade-1/4 cup creamy peanut butter-2 tablespoons soy sauce-2 tablespoons honey or maple syrup-2 cloves garlic, minced-1 tablespoon ginger, grated-1 tablespoon lime juice-1 teaspoon sesame oil -salt and pepper to tasteProtein Bowls-6 pheasant breasts-brown rice and quinoa-shredded carrots-sliced cucumber-sliced bell peppers-tri-color slaw-sliced appleMarinade pheasant breasts for at least 1 hour prior to grilling in half of the sauce, save the rest for serving. Grill pheasant breasts until fully cooked. Layer ingredients to your liking and enjoy!

Jake didn't win 1st in the Region, 4th in State in the 1994 National Spanish Exam for nothing. He puts his Español to use with his own reggaeton song while Rivera breaks down the ridiculous lyrics. It goes to show how fun Spanish music can be despite awful writing. Also on the show: the Epstein Files for Dummies (or just kids), the FBI released the first images from Nancy Guthrie's RING doorbell camera showing the masked person of interest, IKEA is leaving Memphis after 10 years, and we play two rounds of Impossible Trivia. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For the 6th annual Bowlie Awards, Andrew and Vieves display a heroic level of discipline as they turn in a sub-four-hour show on this year's crop of Super Bowl ads, which featured a surprising amount of ass --and that's not even counting the one with Shane Gillis. Uber Eats https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gnau/uber-eats-super-bowl-2026-extended-hungry-for-the-truth Dunkin' - Good Will Dunkin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr96AsZGFQc Ritz https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YynHOD7gR48 Draft Kings https://youtu.be/lo15LHvvS7Q?si=eLQuccKuuM-X9bde Bud Light - Keg Chase https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-P6OzmgCyY Budweiser - Colt and Chick https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_mh-v02-Tw Redfin & Rocket Mortgage - A Neighbor Like You https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvEFiLqsCDw Squarespace - Unavailable https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cLNMXUNzxY LAY'S - Last Harvest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBnLXlvrNng Hims & Hers - Rich People https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZ7Z5LTJWHM NFL - Champion https://youtu.be/ZmjX1S0VLq4?si=j6zdjGFWzgKXDPIQ Blue Square Alliance Against Hate - Sticky Note https://youtu.be/YgOkCFGNeTE?si=vK-oyt35CvLUp5wz Universal Orlando Resort - Lil Bro https://youtu.be/WEV_wDMTCq0?si=e8j0qmqxghzmW9rT Wegovy Pills https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gOtT/wegovy-super-bowl-2026-pre-release-a-new-way-featuring-kenan-thompson-dj-khaled-danielle-brooks Poppi - Vibes (ft. Charlie XCX and Rachel Sennott) https://youtu.be/xv8FMvKbd_k?si=L7gcw6aPTddSe4gK Grub Hub - Eat The Fees https://youtu.be/pyvGh2-Gsdg?si=ffptXB1s8L4u3KE9 Alexa Plus - Chris Hemsworth Worse Case Scenarios https://youtu.be/ha92_hfK9Po?si=8PijLmUNHT7segnE Bosch - Just A Guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OnIw_t6hxJ0 Pringles - Sabrina Carpenter's Pringle Man https://youtu.be/pEYkM3boSos?si=BDymN7nsaZxbCjqc Fanatics Sports Book - Kendall Jenner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfLUbLIULDw State Farm - Stop Livin' On A Prayer https://youtu.be/2Xz1iXWJgAE?si=9KUhVpU9HRhZcZ11 Levi's - Backstory https://youtu.be/j70p29KipEE?si=GyfyN-dkXk08WTsa Liquid IV - Toilet Bowls / Yellow Pee https://youtu.be/ZjDfVdrtl48?si=Hw5xSGL3gmtN9WWZ Coinbase - Everybody karaoke https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gO_z/coinbase-super-bowl-2026-everybody T-Mobile - Tell Me Why (Backstreet Boys & Machinegun Kelly) https://youtu.be/h_3eB7omJO4?si=WbMwhTfsX3eqTLE_ Hellmans Mayo - Andy Samberg (& Dakota Fanning?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TpdUBwyL4c Instacart - Ben Stiller and Benson Boone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTleZejhlqk Svedka - Shake Your Bots Off https://youtu.be/pkeWRI2yJGM?si=sTcHZB7k7yetKS7i Novartis - Relax Your Tight End https://youtu.be/lMTcZb48aVU?si=RiXQeuIUCPXlUvlZ MAHA Obesity - Mike Tyson https://youtu.be/ICygZXJfMpQ?si=Wd_S3iYnp7-ShTo7 Oakley Meta - Athletic Intelligence is Here https://youtu.be/Y8UYIJ6oAJE?si=eXjQLl-OmzM5su5Q Xfinity - Jurassic Park https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKwxWPp2dhw Michelob Ultra - Ski jump https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGkhZ5fToOk Pepsi - The Choice https://youtu.be/7vKCq52wWUY?si=qgIhhVb7KvtwyGuY Intuit TurboTax - Dramatic Adrian Brody https://youtu.be/Qp5LJNm3Jkc?si=PtSPRjlEsJUjHVJ0 Boehringer Ingelheim – Mission: Detect the SOS https://youtu.be/GO6Lq8lLlVU?si=0L8r42Ss6aiNJ5Wy Ramp - Duplicating Kevin From The Office https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gOWD/ramp-super-bowl-2026-multiply-featuring-brian-baumgartner Claude - Mothers https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gOWG/anthropic-super-bowl-2026-betrayal-song-by-dr-dre Claude - Six Pack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmnjDLwZckA EOS Cashmere Body Mist - Is it cake? https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gO_P/eos-cashmere-body-mist-super-bowl-2026-is-it-cake-boom-operator-featuring-mikey-day Manscaped - Hair Ballad https://www.ispot.tv/ad/gn0N/manscaped-super-bowl-2026-pre-release-hair-ballad Kinder - Yes Bueno https://youtu.be/T1z-xbTkJNM?si=Fm6GtXBFHu2rwpWr

In this episode of The 10 Ninety Podcast, Mason sits down with Katelyn Hood to talk about losing her son, William Andrew Hood, who passed away peacefully in his sleep on November 16, 2021, at just six months and one day old. William was born three weeks early on May 15, 2021, after Katelyn and her husband Andrew went through a year of fertility treatments to become parents. He was a calm, happy baby who loved daily walks with his dad, being on his dad's shoulder, and wrapping his fists in his mom's hair. He experienced his first Utah Jazz game just days before his passing. On November 16, 2021, Katelyn dropped William off at daycare like any normal Tuesday morning, stopping at Chick-fil-A for her Diet Coke. Hours later, a police officer appeared at her office to tell her there had been an "accident" at the daycare. William had been found unresponsive and not breathing. Despite 35 minutes of resuscitation efforts, he didn't make it. He died of SIDS—sudden infant death syndrome. Katelyn shares the devastating image of seeing her baby with tubes in his mouth and doctors pumping his chest, the numbness of the first year, and the guilt of not being there for his last breath. She talks about the hurtful things people said—"he's in a better place," "I can't even imagine"—and how she learned to forgive their ignorance while cutting toxic people from her life. She opens up about going back to work quickly as a distraction, drinking heavily to numb the pain, and becoming a recluse who avoids baby showers and family events. She shares her journey through a miscarriage at 10 weeks, an ectopic pregnancy that required emergency surgery, and ultimately divorcing her husband after 10 years together—not because anyone was bad, but because they wanted different things after unimaginable loss. Katelyn also talks about co-grieving with her ex-husband, texting each other on Mother's Day, Father's Day, and William's death date, and walking three miles to his cemetery every birthday. She shares how therapy helped her process the anger and guilt, how she's learning to accept happiness without shame, and how she's slowly rebuilding a life she never thought possible. Together, Katelyn and Mason talk about becoming a toddler again after loss, the exhaustion of wearing a fake mask, and the reality that grief doesn't get easier—you just get stronger at carrying it.

Most freelancers discover their real rates are 30% to 50% lower than they think. I'm breaking down the math behind real freelancer rates in 2026. If you think you're making $50 an hour, you're likely making much less when you factor in the "just a quick question" Slack messages and the administrative black hole of invoicing.This episode is a reality check to help you face your numbers and stop trading your sanity for $15 an hour. Knowing your numbers is power, and knowing your numbers is profit. It's time to find out if your business is actually sustainable or if you're just paying for the privilege of being busy.Listen to learn more aboutHow to calculate your minimal acceptable rate (MAR) so you know exactly when to say no to a low-balling clientThe math behind your Effective Hourly Rate per client and why tracking non-billable hours is the only way to see your real profitWhy you need to stop acting like a commodity and start using value-based pricing for your packagesHow to identify "hidden time killers" like scope creep and those never-ending meetings that eat your marginsStop guessing and start tracking your effective hourly rate so you can stop working for "Chick-fil-A wages" and start building a profitable business that respects your time.Sponsored by Wispr Flow*Write and prompt faster with this voice-to-text AI tool that turns speech into clear, polished writing in every app. I'm using Wispr Flow to talk out emails, client replies, and AI prompts instead of typing everything. It's one of my top tech tool recommendations and a real time-saver in my “4 hours of prime work time” mom life. Try Wispr Flow here**my affiliate linkLinks Mentioned:Join us for The Premium Package Workshop: A two-hour live intensive where we'll build your expert-level packages and set your 2026 pricing that positions you as the obvious choice. I'm teaching you the exact framework I use in my private consulting sessions to help service providers go from hourly scrambling to confident, professional pricing they can actually stand behind. February 26, 11am-1pm ET

If you think about all the large companies in America, many may be led by Christians, but few customers would ever know. A few like Chick-fil-a, Hobby Lobby, or Coca-Cola Bottling are distinctly different because of their faith, but unfortunately the numbers of bold examples seem small. In Malachi, God praised those people who were ... The post Distinctly Different appeared first on Unconventional Business Network.

Brad and T. Kyle are back for the first episode of 2026 after the Winter Hiatus! We're catching up on everything we missed (well, attempting), including a sneak peek of T. Kyle's trip to Bluestone Manor with Dorinda Medley, the ‘Heated Rivalry' cultural takeover, Mariah Carey's MusiCares tribute with Taylor Momsen, the ‘Chick' lost album, the 2026 Winter Olympics, the 2026 Grammys, the Best New Artist category, Addison Rae's performance, Bad Bunny's big win, the upcoming 2026 Super Bowl halftime show, High Fashion Editorial! featuring Madonna's Dolce & Gabbana campaign, Fashion Week heading to NYC, new music incoming from Robyn, Ashlee Simpson, Agnes, John Summit, LONOWN, Michael Medrano, Gregory Dillon, Loreen, Lykke Li, and the Spice Girls f—king with us again. Welcome back! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Special Patreon Release: Emotionally Healthy Familial Relationships with Cherilyn Orr   "bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord." Ephesians 6:4b (KJV)   *Transcription Below*   Cherilyn Orr is passionate about helping parents, teachers, and guardians raise emotionally healthy and resilient children. She has worked with families and educators in North America, Europe, and Africa to help them build safe schools, homes, and communities where children can flourish. The Stoplight Approach that she developed was born out of her experiences as an educator, a foster mom, and a mom to seven through birth and adoption, and it combines biblical truths with the latest brain science. Connect with her on her Website, Facebook, Instagram, or YouTube.   Topics and Questions We Cover: What are a few helpful tips for us to understand brain science 101? How can we repair the relationship when we don't disciple and discipline from our Green zone? Within the stoplight approach, can you provide some examples of how we can calm a red-rooted misbehavior?   Thank You to Our Sponsors: Chick-fil-A East Peoria and The Savvy Sauce Charities (and donate online here)   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook or Instagram or Our Website   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”   Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”   Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”   Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”   John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:09)   Laura Dugger: (0:09 - 2:07) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here.   I want to say a huge thank you to today's sponsors for this episode, Chick-fil-A East Peoria and Savvy Sauce Charities.   Are you interested in a free college education for you or someone you know? Stay tuned for details coming later in this episode from today's sponsor, Chick-fil-A East Peoria. You can also visit their website today at Chick-fil-A.com/EastPeoria.   If you've been with us long, you know this podcast is only one piece of our nonprofit, which is the Savvy Sauce Charities. Don't miss out on our other resources. We have questions and content to inspire you to have your own practical chats for intentional living.   And I also hope you don't miss out on the opportunity to financially support us through your tax-deductible donations. All this information can be found on our recently updated website, TheSavvySauce.com.   Cherilyn Orr is my guest today. She is kind and humble and a woman who's passionate about helping parents, teachers, and guardians raise emotionally healthy and resilient children. She's going to share how she combines biblical truths with the latest brain science to build healthy relationships in the family. Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Cherilyn.   Cherilyn Orr: (2:07 - 2:08) Thank you. I'm really happy to join you today.   Laura Dugger: (2:08 - 2:10) And will you start by just giving us a snapshot of your life right now?   Cherilyn Orr: (2:08 - 3:11) Yes, I am actually talking to you from Athens, Greece. That is where our family resides right now. And we've been here for the last few years. And before that, we lived in Uganda and Africa.   I have seven children and my oldest is now a mom herself. And she just gave birth a couple months ago to a preemie little baby. And I am so excited because now I have entered the world of grandparenthood.   But I'm also in the throes of life with a 12-year-old, a 14-year-old, and a 17-year-old. And I have a university student living at home. My next son is 21, and he's also living at home, going to university. So those are my four at home.   I have one in Canada, working there. And I have two that are married. One that lives in Africa with his wife, and they're working there. And another one with my grandbaby that's living here in Greece, working with the church here.   Laura Dugger: (3:12 - 3:19) That is quite a full family and a global family. What has taken you to the different parts of the world?   Cherilyn Orr: (3:20 - 3:44) Well, we are a missional family. But we believe that everybody's called to be a missional and to serve God. And God happens to have taken us to different places.   I've been working with The Stoplight Approach now for a few years now. My husband does leadership training as well. So that's kind of what's taken us around the world. Now that we're in Greece, I'm also involved with refugees as well here.   Laura Dugger: (3:45 - 4:06) Well, we are fortunate to live in a time with access to scientific knowledge about the brain. And it all points back to our brilliant Creator, God. But you make this brain science so simple to comprehend. So, can you just share a few helpful tips for us so that we can understand kind of brain science 101?   Cherilyn Orr: (4:08 - 6:40) Yes, I think for me, it's been a journey. But it came when after we adopted a child and she was having an all-out meltdown. And it would have taken me an hour or so to regroup her.   And it was just amazing. I was with a friend and she is a behavioral consultant. And she said, “Let me.” And this was after we had had her for at least a couple of years at this point. And she just said, “Let me.”   And she got down on the ground where my child was screaming hysterically. And she was able to get her back sitting on her seat, doing what she was supposed to in less than, I don't know, 10 minutes.   And I was shocked because here I am an educator. I have a master's degree. I'm a special needs teacher. I have been working for years with children in different settings around the world. And here I was looking at her doing something that I just didn't know how to do.   It was a huge paradigm shift for me when she said afterwards, I said, “What did you do?”   And she said, “It's by understanding the brain. The brain is like three parts. It's like a stoplight.”   So, she said, if you can think of it that way, as there's that bottom part of your brain, which is that fight, flight, freeze. When you are just only using 50% of your capacity and you just can't hear anybody's perspective.   And then there's that middle part of your brain, which is the limbic system. And she said, you know, that's when you're using 75% or so of your brain capacity. And that's when you're stressed, you're worried, you're anxious, and you're just not at your best.   And then there's your top part of your brain, which is your neocortex, which you are just ready to learn. And you can problem solve and you can think and you are the best version of yourself at that moment.   And she talked to me a little bit about that. And she's just said, this is what's happening in your brain. For me, that was a wow, you know, because it's like understanding the brain is so opposite than anything that I had ever done. And as an educator, I've been trained to control children. I've taken courses on behavior management. And this was just like changing the equation. When you understand the brain, then it changes how you can relate to the child in your care.   Laura Dugger: (6:41 - 7:05) And also, I will just sprinkle in a few little things that I found fascinating in your book. One of your conclusions was that relationships are the biggest factor in brain development and for it to develop in a healthy way. So, is that what you found true throughout the years of our life, that relationships are vital?   Cherilyn Orr: (7:05 - 8:02) It's for everybody. And it needs to start with that relationship. And that relationship has what I would say three pillars, which is safety, which is your red brain. In order to come out of that fight, flight or freeze, you have to feel safe.   And in order to come out of yellow brain, which is your limbic system, you need to feel connected and you need to feel respected. And respect means to be seen, heard and valued. And when you're in that yellow brain state, you don't feel connected. You feel disconnected.   So, in order to get people to green brain, you need to make them feel seen, heard and valued. So, if we want healthy relationships and we want green home, then we need to be able to help our children get to that green brain state. But it starts by making them feel safe and making them feel connected. So, relationship is foundational.   Laura Dugger: (8:02 - 8:24) And you've combined your knowledge of the Bible and all of this brain science to write a book entitled Signals: How Brain Science and the Bible Help Parents Raise Resilient Children. So, will you elaborate now on that Stoplight Approach that you teach and write about?   Cherilyn Orr: (8:27 - 11:10) Well, yes, I am so excited because we just looked at, you know, those three elements, safety, respect and being connected, and then we could teach it. And when we look at the Bible and we say, “How does God view me and how does He work with me?”   I go back to the fact is when God sees me in my mess ups and He sees my anger or my gossip or my addictions or whatever I'm struggling with. He looks at me and He says, “Come to me. I am your safety. I am your refuge.”   He wants us to bring Him our messes. He says, “Come to me just as you are, not as you want to be, not as you should be and not as you could be.” And in that context, He says, “I delight in you. I know you. I know every hair on your head. I know you. I know your name and I love you. You are in the palm of my hand and I delight in you.”   And Zephaniah talks about and He sings over us, not because we've done something, not because we're worthy, because He knows that unless we feel safe and unless we are in that connection and can relationship with them, then He cannot help us to train us and to walk with us and guide us through the process of growing and becoming that healthy person that He desires for us to be.   So, I was so excited when I looked at who God is and how it matches with what brain science is teaching us about red, yellow, green and how we can't teach anybody. It takes 12 to 15 times to teach a child a new skill when they are in green. That same child, that same skill when he's there in red will take 350 to 400 times because that is not the part of the brain where you can do problem solving or critical thinking or even to have empathy for anybody else. That part of the brain can only do rote learning. So, it will take you so long to teach a child when they're in that part of the brain.   And I love it because that obedience is an outflowing of a relationship with us, with God. And when we look at our child, that's what we want is we don't want them to obey us because they fear us, but we want them to obey us because they are connected to us. Just like God wants us to obey Him in that relationship, not because it's the rule and that's what we need to do.   So, I'm so excited to see how that brain science is catching up to who God is.   Laura Dugger: (11:11 - 12:07) Oh, my goodness. That is amazing to also just think of the Lord as obviously our parent and we want to model after Him. Some of this is reminding me there was a previous episode with Dr. Josh and Christy Straub where they were looking at research findings about parenting. And one of them was that it was so important for us to be self-regulated when we're responding to our children. And there's a connection.   So, in your book, I'm just going to read this one quote from page 56. You wrote, “One of the most shocking things I realized as I learned about brain science was that it is impossible to make a child feel loved when the parent is in yellow or red. They feel our stress. They feel our disapproval.” And so, would you like to elaborate on that as well?   Cherilyn Orr: (12:09 - 13:41) Well, we have this thing that we talk a lot about in The Stoplight Approach. We talk about the stoplight starts with me. You cannot give what you don't have.   So many parents will say, “I love my child,” but the child does not feel loved. And when I was doing seminars and training throughout North America, you know, often people say, “We are a yellow society.” And that broke my heart.   We are a yellow society. We're running our kids at five in the morning to this program, to hockey or this or programs late at night. And we're just running.   And I feel like if we are yellow and we are stressed, then there is automatically a disconnect. There's almost like a gate that says, do not enter. You can't go through it unless you are in green.   You're in red, then your whole house turns to red. Mama's in red, everybody's in red. Or if you're in yellow, you'll start to see the children in your care are in yellow.   And I find that in my house. When I start to see my house going to that yellow space, I start to have to do like, what color am I in? If I'm in yellow, then they're going to be in yellow. And you start to see them fighting amongst themselves or bickering or just not cooperating. And there's that tension that comes because they're picking up my yellowness and my stress.   Laura Dugger: (13:42 - 14:04) And so, let's go a little bit further with that scenario. If parents are in a very stressful season and there are quite a few to-do's that have to get done on top of the daily things. If that parent identifies they are in the yellow, maybe in the red, how can they get back to green even in the midst of a crazy time of life?   Cherilyn Orr: (14:06 - 16:26) Well, you know, you don't have to be perfect. You don't have to be a perfect parent. But what science is showing us and it's what God wants from us is that sense of repair. We need to look at how do we repair because that's what our child needs because life is not perfect and we are not perfect. And I am certainly far from being a perfect parent. But how do I repair the damage and how do I connect?   So, we call it fix it, treasure it and change it. So, fix it is: Yes, I am sorry. Mommy yelled at you. I am so sorry I did that. I was in yellow and I was really stressed. Would you forgive me? I love you and you did not deserve me to yell at you. I care about you and I did not handle that appropriately.   And I want you to help me. This is what I've said to my children. I want you to help me when I'm going to red or I'm going to yellow. Just remind me and say, “Mom, you're going to yellow.” And then that can help me to make some changes right then and create that gap so that I'm not reacting. Or maybe I could take a walk or maybe I could get myself back to green.   When I react in that yellow or red brain state, it's not safe for you. It's not safe for others. So, let's work together on this.   And then we can talk about maybe what was happening in our house at that time as well. And maybe how they can help things to go smoother in our house. So that they could take some responsibility in helping because Mommy didn't feel seen, heard and valued. You know, I had asked you five times to do that. So how do we work together to make this house run smoother?   So being red and yellow are not bad things. It's not like you are horrible because you went to red and yellow. It's warning. It's like an alarm going off to say, be careful, be careful.   It's an opportunity to reflect and say, what's not working here? What's the deeper issue here? Yes, maybe I was overtired and maybe I did this. But what else is going on? And I may need to look back on things that maybe are triggering me that are deeper. And maybe things that relate back to my own childhood or how I was raised.   Laura Dugger: (16:26 - 16:52) That makes a lot of sense, that reflection. Because I studied psychology and marriage and family therapy. And we were always taught, name it to tame it. And sometimes that really does help when we can pinpoint and identify and name. What is that trigger? It helps to tame it. And I think the biblical concept is when you share it with somebody else, when you bring it into the light, it does lose a lot of its power.   Cherilyn Orr: (16:53 - 17:46) Definitely. Because if I can say I'm in red, it helps me know what I need to do to get myself back to green. So, if I can start to recognize when my body is starting to get tense, when I'm starting to get stressed, I can say, oh, this is my warning. I need to do this. I need to have a shower. I need to go for a walk. I need to regroup myself so that I'm not reacting to my children in my red brain state. I can get myself back to green first. So, I can create that gap.   So, naming it, that's what I think the success of Stoplight is. It's the common language that says how do we help each other when we are moving to yellow and we are moving to red so that everybody in the family knows that red is not bad, but how do we help that person in their red to get back to green?   Laura Dugger: (17:48 - 17:52) What is the Stoplight Approach to discipline and boundaries?   Cherilyn Orr: (17:54 - 22:32) Well, sometimes people think, oh, is The Stoplight Approach permissive? You know, we just let kids do what they want and let them be in green. If anybody has multiple children, you know that if one child is being self-centered and they're in their own world, it's going to create chaos for the rest of the family.   And so, Stoplight is not about permissiveness. And I think we need to be looking at the word discipline comes from the word disciple, which means to train. If you can kind of get that word discipline, because so often we've mixed that word discipline with punishment. So, it's all about punishing a child, whereas actually discipline is not about punishing. It's about training a child.   And everybody, every child needs boundaries. Boundaries help to keep us safe. They help to keep our family safe. It helps to keep that relationships in a healthy way.   So, we often use that word to look at how do we as parents, we've always got boundaries. Don't run in the road. We want to keep you safe. Don't touch the hot stove because you'll burn yourself. So, we look for ways to keep our child safe, and we look for ways to help them be safe in relationships. Yes, you want that ball, but you don't hit the other child to get the ball. So, what could we do differently?   Proverbs 13:24 is a common phrase that I grew up hearing. It was kind of like the parenting theology of my generation. “Whoever spares the rod hates his son, but who loves him diligently disciplines him.”   So that was a verse that I heard a lot in my life. But then as I was studying and looking at brain science and really studying about who is God. And I had to look at what is my image of God? Is He this harsh judge up there that maybe subconsciously I believed? Or is He that loving father like the prodigal son that's waiting for his son? Not to punish him, but to love him and to connect with him. And it says in the New Testament, Jesus says, if you've seen him, you've seen the Father. So, He's a good, good father.   So, then I started to dissect this. What is the rod used for? And it talks about the rod being a comfort and a rod being a sense of protection. And we often hear it used in relationships to sheep. You know, if we're going to keep sheep safe, then we need the rod. That shepherd used a rod to protect his sheep from wild animals. So, as we look at that word rod, it's a protection tool.   So, we take apart that and then hates his son. I think, wow, a parent that does not protect their child or teaches their child to be aware of the dangers in this world. So, as a young child, you're protecting them and teaching them to make safe choices. And then as they get older, you still have to continually, continually teach them that. And so, when I look at that word rod and hates his son, that would be a neglectful. In my words, a parent who is neglectful to teach.   The second verse talks about diligently. And that reminds me in Deuteronomy, when we're told to teach our children all through the day, when we're walking, when we're sitting, when we're at mealtimes. We should be using our days to continually teach our children and to discipline them, which would be to train them in the way that they should go.   And I look at God as our creator of our brain. And He loves us so very, very much. And He wants the very best for us. And we know that children and human beings do better when they feel better. So how do we connect with our child? How do we protect our children? And how do we take that opportunity to be present with our child?   Those are hard things for a lot of parents these days to be present, to be engaged with them and to look for ways to continually be working with them and protecting them and keeping them safe.   Laura Dugger: (22:33 - 22:58) Wow. And I just want to share one of my favorite takeaways from page 143, where you write “Green rooted misbehavior needs coaching. Yellow roots need connection. And red roots need calming.” So, can you provide some examples with that last one of how we can calm a red rooted misbehavior?   Cherilyn Orr: (23:00 - 27:00) Yes, I certainly can. So, all three of these are so important because we often miss it. I'm going to say that red root, it needs us to speak the red language, speak red brain. And to speak red brain means to stop talking about the problem.   That child does not have capacity to hear you when they are in a red brain state. They need me to be calm. They need me to be in green. And they need me to stop talking. And maybe to only use words that feel safe. You're safe. I'm here. You're safe. I'm here. There's no point in talking to anybody in red brain because they have no capacity to hear.   And then also to be able to go for a walk with your child. Repetitive patterning activities are really helpful. Like for my children, each of my children have, they have a green plan. It's like, what do I do when I'm starting to go to red?   So maybe for one of my children, we have a hammock outside. So, she goes there. These are planned ahead of time when they are in green. These are discussed ahead of time. So, another child will, you know, might listen to music, have a shower, go for a walk. Every single one of us, whether it be an adult or child, should look at what do I need to do to get back to green.   As a parent, when we're looking at green rooted misbehaviors, red rooted misbehaviors and yellow roots misbehaviors, you could have the same issue like two kids fighting. You come around the corner and there you see your two siblings fighting. As a parent, often we go to red immediately. Our brain state goes because it feels threatening. It feels fearful to us. And then we react.   So, I have to take a deep breath myself and I have to say, OK, what brain state is this child in? And sometimes we don't know. So, we can call the children and say, what's going on? Just stopping and asking the question will give us the opportunity to hear what brain state our child is in.   If they happily look it up and say, we were playing Pirates of the Caribbean or something that they had seen on a TV show, then you can say, OK, well, what you're doing is unsafe and somebody is going to get hurt. But they're just acting.   And then if it's a yellow brain state, it's like he pushed me, he touched me. And they're just kind of bickering at each other. They're not really all out fighting. But, you know, you can look at them and say, let's stop and let's make each other feel seen, heard and valued. So, you can work with that child because that child at that point is in yellow brain. And then we can speak yellow brain, which is people don't feel that they're being heard. They don't feel respected. And that's when you can talk about what other things that they could do instead.   And then, of course, we have red brain when these children are all out to hurt each other. They are mad. So that's when we can go into that red brain and say, OK, both of you need to get back to green. We're not going to talk about this right now. I want you to use your green plan and get yourselves back to green. And then we will talk.   Some children can do that independently and some children need you to do it with them. And sometimes it might be that you just take those two children out and say, we're going to run around the block together.” And it's how do you connect with your child at that particular time and keep them safe and get them moving and get their brain state back up to green before you talk with them.   Laura Dugger: (27:01 - 32:37) And now a brief message from our sponsor. Did you know you can go to college tuition free just by being a team member at Chick-fil-A East Peoria? 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And if you say to a child, “I want you to say sorry to your sibling,” they're just going to look and go, “Sorry,” and have no meaning whatsoever.   And that's why we've done a lot of apology notes in my home over the years, because it's an opportunity to really sit down and reflect and talk. And we talk about how the card needs to be beautiful because we need to treasure that person. And so, they need to apologize for what they did. They need to talk about why on earth are they even writing this apology note? Why is that person of value? Because they're our sister or they're our brother or they're our friend or they're the teacher or the coach. And they are a part of our community and our family. So, we need to write that apology note to value that person.   And then we talk about what are we going to do next time. So those three points go into every single apology note my kids write: fix it, treasure it, change it. But you cannot do that when the child is in red. You cannot do it when they're in yellow. You need to have them back to green and then we can talk through it. And then they can go and deliver that to that person and then talk about how they can reconcile the situation. But I find that that's a really good reflective piece that I've used over the years.   But as a parent, it's hard to say sorry to your kid. It's easier to jump in and just treasure the child. You know, let's go to the park. Let's do this and just value the child. But then you end up having an insecure relationship because you've never acknowledged the problem. Therefore, you cannot change it. So therefore, you cannot have a healthy reconciliation.   Laura Dugger: (34:40 - 34:57) And how have you seen this Stoplight Approach work across the world? So many different settings with different countries and cultures or families who foster and adapt or even ones raising children with special needs?   Cherilyn Orr: (34:59 - 36:53) Well, the great thing about science is it doesn't change based on where you are in the world and what culture you're in. Every human has a brain, and all human brains function the same way. And all human brains need safety, connection and coaching.   So that's been the exciting part about understanding brain science. So, you know, even when I work in Africa, I'll say to people when I get malaria, do they give me a different medication because I'm from Canada or do they give me the same as you? And everybody says, of course, malaria is malaria. You know, it's because of science.   And I love that whole element of science that our brains are made the same. It doesn't matter what culture you're in and it doesn't matter what special needs you have. If I see a child and they're under the table and they're holding their ears, I might not know that child at all. But I know that that child is in red brain. I don't have to know if they're special needs. I don't have to know anything else. I can immediately diagnose what brain state that child is in. And then I can work at creating safety for that child. And connecting with that child. And then we can find out how do we move that child and work with that child, whatever their needs are.   And I have four adopted children, and I have fostered many children. In the process of doing that, I have recognized that every child needs to feel safe, connected, and then we can train them. So, it's like changing the equation for how we work with the children. But it works for all people. So, I don't have to have a different philosophy of parenting for my adopted child or my foster child or my biological children. Does that make sense?   Laura Dugger: (36:53 - 37:03) Yes, absolutely. And to personalize it, how has The Stoplight Approach then worked in your life and with you and your husband raising your own children?   Cherilyn Orr: (37:05 - 41:32) I just love the fact that it's a common language. So, I can give you an example of one day there was company coming and I was really stressed. And it seemed like everywhere I looked; every room was a disaster. You know, I had teenagers who were cooking and making themselves food and it was a mess. I had children that had used the bathroom and made a mess all through the bathroom. And then I had toys everywhere and sheets being made into forts. And I had company showing up.   And so, I was going into to Red Brain and I started going, “Who did this? What did you do? Who left this here? Who made this mess?” And one of my kids went and says, “Dad, mom's going to Red.” And that wasn't a judgment. That was like, this is a fact. We need your help here.   And so, dad comes along and he says, he puts his hand on my shoulder and he says, “You're going to Red.” He says, “Why don't you go for a walk? I'll do zone cleanup with the kids because I'm in green. And you can come back in 20 minutes and then you can do all the final tidy up before the kids come. And then that we could greet the company and green.”   So, it just becomes that common language of understanding. And he knew my need at that time. I was feeling unsafe because the house was a disaster. And my brain just was it's a brain issue, right? It's not a behavior issue. But then it was like, how do we support mom in this moment? And then I came back 20 minutes later and did the final little cleanups, and we were able to greet the company in green.   So, there's an example of using the common language as a way to help others in our family know what brain state you're in to support one another. And to be able to identify and connect.   I mean, I could give you tons of examples, even from the smallest child. They start to understand. “He made me go to red” or “I'm in red now.” So, then it's like, OK, so what do we need to do? How do we do this?   I mean, there's been days when all of a sudden I hear everybody kind of not doing too great. And I get them all to sit at the table. And I said, “So what color is our home right now?” And somebody say red. Somebody else says yellow. Then you're saying, “OK, but what kind of home do we want to have?” And they'll say green. So, what do we need to do to get it to green?   So, I think there's there's many, many different ways. But I think it's that common language that even the small child that's two and three can start to learn when they're in red or we can start to use it to teach empathy. When you did that to your sibling, what color did we make him? He didn't feel seen, heard and valued.   Just a few weeks ago, my daughter. Here's here's a recent example. We've had a refugee staying with us for a couple of years, a little girl, and she was about three. All of a sudden there was this blood curdling screaming, you know, just screaming. And I come around the corner going, “What's going on?” And my 12-year-old, very responsible, is holding scissors. She's running with scissors.   And so, my 12-year-old here was a chance to talk. And I said, “OK, so when you took her scissors away, she did not feel seen, heard and valued. Because when you took them away from her, you didn't actually speak to her. So, you need to get down on your knees, and you need to look at her and say, what did you want the scissors for? And we need to teach her. Where do we have scissors? How do we use them?”   So, she was being responsible to keep her safe. But she didn't make her feel seen, heard and valued and listen to her and say, “Oh, you want to cut your hair. Oh, only mommy cuts hair. You can't cut your hair, but we could use our scissors at the table.” So, using red, yellow and green helps to give incredible opportunities to teach empathy and to look at themselves, self-awareness and how to grow and take responsibility.   Laura Dugger: (41:34 - 42:06) And I love how you talk about this common language in such a proactive way with our children, with our families. So that when we are in red, we've got a path and a plan to get back to green. And we've got some tips for repair.   So, when we go to the proactive side and kind of tie this back into the beginning, when we talked about relationships are the foundation for brain health and development. What are some ways to securely attach with our children during different ages and stages?   Cherilyn Orr: (42:08 - 45:54) I think it comes back to being intentional. I often think of it as the 5-10-5 rule. Five minutes in the morning, five minutes in the evening and five minutes before they go to bed at night. It's that opportunity to stop what you're doing and to just focus in intentionally connecting with my child.   It's not easy. It's not easy. But it's how do I connect first thing in the morning when that child has been disconnected from me all night long? How do I connect with them first thing in the morning before they start their day? And then how do I connect with them like after school, before dinner? And how do I hear about what they want to tell me about their day? What part was red? What part was yellow? What kind of day they had?   One of my kids goes, “It was lime green.” And I'm like, “Okay, so how did that happen?”   “Well, I was in green and then I lost my backpack. So, I went to yellow, but then the teacher helped me find it. So, then I went back to green.” So that's how she described her day.   And then you have that connecting before they go to bed at night. That's just like, I see you, I know you, I hear you.   And so that can look differently according to different ages and stages of life. But I think holding that 5-10-5 is a good principle. And there are so many of my children that that 5-10-5 happens in hours and hours. Because they are children that demand my attention. And they are there and they are wanting that continual attention. So, some kids it happens more naturally too.   And then there are some children, and especially as they start getting older, it's a lot more challenging to be able to find that 5-10-5. And that doesn't mean in the busyness of the dinner table or in chore times. But it's about trying to connect with them and say, “I hear you. Tell me about your life. And where are you at?” Or just really just having fun with them. And just connecting to them and laughing with them and playing a game with them as well. Or going for a walk. We do a lot of that.   And with teenagers, and especially boys, it was all about the food. I would show up in their room with a milkshake or something else. Or call them out of their rooms to connect with them at different times. So, you have to be creative. It's not about my schedule sometimes. It's about looking at when they are open as well. Especially as you start getting into teenagers.   And I found that one of my teenagers, she'd always like to come and sit on my bed. Just at 11 o'clock at night. Just as I feel like I'm down for the night. And you know that baby is going to start waking up at 6 or 7. And you're just dying to go to sleep. But you know that this is important. She's ready to talk. And so, I need to be available.   Which isn't easy. But also, I think, how do we do that with seven children? Because that's a lot of kids. But my husband and I, we look at dividing and conquering. And then we look at special times. Like daddy time. Or going out with mom. Where I'll take one child to do a chore. Or go shopping. And I think that is really important to think about. How am I intentionally connecting with my child? So, I took a child to Canada recently. And I often will take a different child on different trips that I'm going on.   Laura Dugger: (45:55 - 46:15) Okay, so five minutes right in the morning. Greeting each other. Five minutes before bed. And finding ten minutes of intentional time to connect. Is that one-on-one throughout the day?   Cherilyn Orr: Yes.   Laura Dugger: You've given us so many helpful tips to apply. Is there any other encouragement that you want to make sure that we don't miss out on?   Cherilyn Orr: (46:16 - 47:52) I think when you hear a lot of these stories. First of all, I want you to know that I am not perfect. As a mom, it's a journey. And I don't want you to go away feeling like, I could never do all this. It's a journey one baby step at a time. And I encourage you to get the book. Listen to podcasts. And be able to join that journey. But don't be hard on yourself. And don't feel that sense of guilt and shame. That says, oh my, I messed up. That's okay.   Being able to recognize you messed up is a good thing. And also recognize that you think, oh man, I messed up on my kids. I did all the wrong things. I want to tell you that we all do the best we can with the knowledge that we have. And that's really, really important to know. It's like, this is a journey. And you are doing the best.   I learned all about behavior management. How do I control my child's behavior? And that was how I parented when I started this journey. And it has been a journey to shift into brain science. And to learn as much as I can about the brain science. And how it impacts my child. And to grow and be the parent that God wants me to be. But don't be hard on yourself in that way. That would be my biggest thing is. And to take one baby step. To decide one baby step that you take.   Laura Dugger: (47:52 - 47:57) And where can people find and learn more from you online?   Cherilyn Orr: (47:58 - 48:14) Well, look at the StoplightApproach.org. So that is our website. And you can follow us on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube. And you can preorder and sign up for your book (Signals: How Brain Science and the Bible Help Parents Raise Resilient Children). You can get that on Amazon.   Laura Dugger: (48:15 - 48:32) Wonderful. We will add those links to the show notes for today's episode. And Cherilyn, you may know we are called The Savvy Sauce. Because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so is my final question for you today. What is your Savvy Sauce?   Cherilyn Orr: (48:33 - 48:55) I would say that it's not about controlling behavior. It's about connecting with my child. Relationship first rather than behavior first. It's like changing the equation. Relationship is the key. And everything else will flow out of that. And then if you can think of change the brain. Then you'll be able to change the behavior.   Laura Dugger: (48:56 – 49:20) Oh, I love that. That is memorable. And I really appreciate your emphasis on relationship. And it's so helpful to hear your stories of how this has played out over time. And cultures. And how we can now take this common language into our own homes. So, Cherilyn, thank you so much for sharing this research. And your book with us. And thank you for being my guest today.   Cherilyn Orr: (49:21 – 49:23) Thank you for having me.   Laura Dugger: (49:24 – 53:06) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.   Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.   We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.   That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.   This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.   Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.   And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.   First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.   And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.   And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

Children intuitively know that this world is amazing and amazing things happen in it all the time. Even kids in tough circumstances, any of you who's ever been around a kid going through a really, really hard time, they still know, and they will instinctively default to celebrating the goodness of this world. They feel called to it. It's like an obligation. They see this celebration as the work to which they have been called.   Just a little side note on the on the child in my house that decided to dig the holes in the middle of the grass. Before the whole digging hole event thing, my wife had actually come to this child and asked this child, "Would you like to go to Chick-fil-A and celebrate the grand reopening of Chick-fil-A?" To which the child responded, "No." And I quote, "Because he had a lot of work to do.” Referring of course to this project of digging holes just for the sheer joy of digging holes.  

The Super Bowl is one of the biggest, in the biggest, gambling events in the U.S. Why have we seemingly become addicted to gambling? Chick talks to UK Sports Psychology Professor Dr. Marc Cormier. If you're planning to travel to Goodyear for Reds Spring Training Rich Oldham has the best places for you to visit. And the Super Bowl looks more like the Buckeye Bowl. Longtime Buckeye beat writer Bill Rabinowitz explains.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Small textile towns were once common in New England, with stout brick buildings harnessing the power of the region's water to mill yarn and cloth. The Colony family had been owners of a mill in Harrisville, New Hampshire, since before the Civil War, but by the mid-twentieth century, such factories had begun to disappear. In 1970, 53 mills closed in New England, the Colony family's among them. John Colony (known as Chick) returned from serving in the Coast Guard to a mill town without a working mill. Chick saw that the small town would wither unless a new project came in to fill the gap. After considering the options, he had the idea: What better use could there be for an old mill village than to make yarn? So shortly after his father and uncle closed down the mill, Chick opened a business making woolen yarn on some of the same old equipment. The new endeavor was scaled back in scope, but yarn was coming from the old mill buildings once again under the label of a new company, Harrisville Designs. The town's buildings and surrounding watershed became the center of a historic preservation effort. More than 50 years later, Harrisville is known as the best preserved early textile village in the country. Harrisville Designs's woolen-spun yarns are dyed in the wool, blending 12 or 13 brightly dyed fibers into dozens of subtle heathered hues. Initially developed for weaving, the yarns have become popular among knitters looking for yarns with character. The next generation, Chick's son Nick Colony, has taken on management of the mill, developing knitting yarns such as their Nightshades color line and small-batch Shear as well as updating the company's energy production and manufacturing facilities. Harrisville Designs has produced a range of weaving looms for decades, but the youngest weavers probably know the company for their potholder looms. Realizing that the potholder loops and looms on the market were poor quality, Harrisville developed a metal loom and experimented to develop cotton loops in a range of bright colors. Weavers, knitters, and history enthusiasts may all know Harrisville for different reasons, but the effort that began in 1971 as a preservation project has created new futures in this small New Hampshire town. Links Harrisville Designs website Historic Harrisville Red Brick Village, a documentary about preserving historic Harrisville This episode is brought to you by: Treenway Silks is where weavers, spinners, knitters and stitchers find the silk they love. Select from the largest variety of silk spinning fibers, silk yarn, and silk threads & ribbons at TreenwaySilks.com. You'll discover a rainbow of colors, thoughtfully hand-dyed in Colorado. Love natural? Treenway's array of wild silks provide choices beyond white. If you love silk, you'll love Treenway Silks, where superior quality and customer service are guaranteed.

A $400 million exit and a reputational reckoning in wellness put this episode of Taste Radio on edge, as the team dissects Bachan's blockbuster acquisition and the fallout facing brands tied to wellness guru Peter Attia. The conversation also spotlights Solely's growth strategy in an interview with Manish Amin, VP of marketing for the fast-growing organic fruit snack brand. Show notes: 0:23: Many Meetups. Marzetti's Move. Attia Outta Here. Will Shat? DKB, MDS, MHH. – The hosts preview Taste Radio's packed year of networking events and live podcast meetups, kicking off in Miami. The hosts turn their attention to Marzetti's $400 million acquisition of Bachan's, examining how the Japanese barbecue sauce brand emerged as a standout CPG success story. They also dive into tougher conversations around reputational risk following recent revelations involving wellness influencer Peter Attia. Ray teases a surprising celebrity partnership between William Shatner and Raisin Bran, before the hosts spotlight new products from Dave's Killer Bread, Mid-Day Squares, Tama Tea, Tart Beverages, and Mike's Hot Honey Syrup. 28:16: Interview: Manish Amin, VP of Marketing, Solely – Ray sits down with Manish at the recent Naturally San Diego event to discuss Solely's mission and product lineup. Manish shares the brand's focus and positioning, emphasizing a commitment to genuinely good-for-you, great-tasting products. He also highlights Solely's role in pushing the broader snack industry toward cleaner labels and better ingredients. Brands in this episode: Solely, Bachan's, Marzetti, Olive Garden, Chick-fil-A, Buffalo Wild Wings, Arby's, Subway, Texas Roadhouse, New York Bakery, Sister Schubert's, AG1, Magic Spoon, LMNT, David Protein, Kellogg's Raisin Bran, Smart Bran, Dave's Killer Bread, Mid-Day Squares, Tama Tea, Tart, Mike's Hot Honey, Jolly Rancher, Red Hots, Absolut Vodka, Tabasco

David, Ryan, and Tim break down Georgia State's chaotic loss to Troy at The Box, including a fight that somehow didn't result in an ejection and a referee response that left everyone confused. They hit what went wrong on the court, where the Panthers really sit in a messy Sun Belt race, and whether this team is truly stuck in the middle.They also talk Chick-fil-A promos, arena value and tarps, upcoming non-conference scheduling quirks, patch sponsorship ideas, and why basketball might be better if it just admitted it wants to be hockey. It's Boxing at The Box — and yes, apparently that's legal.Follow usWeb: http://stateofatlanta.comFacebook: http://facebook.com/STATEofAtlantaTwitter: http://twitter.com/STATEofAtlantaYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@STATEofAtlantaSupport the showPatreon: http://patreon.com/STATEofAtlantaRock our swagMerch: http://merch.STATEofAtlanta.com

#chickdonovan #goldenboy #prowrestling #gmbmpwWelcome to Episode 113 of Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling (@gmbmpw) with hosts Jimmy Street (@jamesrockstreet), our action figure exper "The Plastic Sheik" Jared Street, and the Territory Wrestling Guru, Quinton Quarisma! Tune in as they join forces and tackle the world of Professional Wrestling!Today, once again in conjunction with Captain's Corner and Grapplecon 4 we welcome the one and only "Golden Boy" Chick Donovan! Chick is the oldest active pro wrestler and he's still going strong! We discuss Georgia Championship Wrestling and his start, Mr Wrestling II, Ivan Koloff, Memphis, Jimmy Hart and the First Family, All Japan and so much more! Most importantly we get the full talking dog story, you're not gonna want to miss that one! See Chick with Captain's Corner, April 11th at Grapplecon 4 in Lutz, FL! Enjoy!Visit our Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling podcast page! https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/gmbmpwFOLLOW & SUBSCRIBE:https://facebook.com/gmbmpwhttps://facebook.com/groups/gmbmpw/https://instagram.com/gmbmpwhttps://twitter.com/gmbmpwhttps://www.youtube.com/@GMBMPWCheck out Sheik's Shorts: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL0oL-yrnIHtlaVHamAApDquYBXeGaHS8vCheck out the Live and In Color with Wolfie D podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/wolfiedVISIT OUR AWESOME SPONSORS!-Captain's Corner (Conventions, Virtual Signings and more!): https://www.facebook.com/captinscorner-T's Westside Original Gourmet Sauces: https://www.westsidesauces.comADVERTISE WITH US! For business and advertising inquiries contact us at gmbmpw@gmail.comVery Special Thanks To: -Sludge (@sludge_cast) for the "Give Me Back My Pro Wrestling" entrance theme!-Tracy Byrd and A Gathering Of None for the "Sheik Fell Down A Rabbit Hole" & "Name Game" theme songs! © 2026, jamesrockstreet Productions

In this episode of The Authority Company Podcast, Joe Pardavila chats with Bruce Craul, a lifelong hospitality leader who rose from front desk roles to the C-suite. Bruce shares why hospitality never becomes obsolete, even in an AI driven future, and why heart, not software, shapes every guest experience. Drawing from five decades in hotels, resorts, and restaurants, Bruce explains how culture, hiring, and everyday human moments decide business results long before revenue reports do. You hear why Bruce views hospitality as a gift instead of a transaction, how simple choices like a greeting or a name tag change how people feel, and why companies like Chick-fil-A and Nordstrom earn loyalty through people, not pricing. He also reflects on his own journey, from learning professional pride in Miami's Latin hospitality culture to leading teams across dozens of properties nationwide. The conversation closes with Bruce's mission behind his book The Hospitality Advantage, which aims to restore warmth, care, and connection across every industry. If you lead a team, run a business, or serve customers in any role, this episode gives you clear, real world lessons on how hospitality builds trust, loyalty, and long term growth.

What does it take to run one of the world's largest aviation events? Gene Conrad, President and CEO of the Aerospace Center for Excellence and Sun 'n Fun Aerospace Expo, pulls back the curtain on Florida's premier aviation gathering. Growing up in Oshkosh as the son of an airport director, Gene counted aircraft at EAA AirVenture as a teenager to see who had more planes. Now, he's running Sun 'n Fun—a six-day event that costs $7 million to produce, attracts over 60,000 attendees, and requires coordination with everyone from the U.S. Navy Blue Angels to Amazon Air operations. In this episode, you'll discover: - The real costs of running a major aviation event ($700K just for tents!) - How Sun 'n Fun coordinates with Amazon's massive Lakeland hub - Why they're making major schedule changes for 2025 - The difference between running an airport vs. running an air show - Future expansion plans including new 40,000 sq ft air-conditioned exhibit buildings - What makes Gene happiest: closing the airport because there's no more parking space - Behind-the-scenes secrets like the Island, the Swamp, and Chick-fil-A coming to the event Gene also shares candid insights about working with 3,000+ volunteers, learning from his biggest mistakes (like the WiFi disaster), and why his ultimate measure of success isn't attendance or revenue—it's making sure everyone goes home safe. Whether you're planning to attend Sun 'n Fun, curious about aviation event management, or just love air shows, this episode delivers insider knowledge you won't find anywhere else.

The probable cause affidavit in the Michael McKee case has been unsealed, and the details are damning. According to court documents filed in Franklin County, McKee allegedly stalked his ex-wife Monique Tepe and her husband Spencer for weeks before their December 30th murders—and drove 900 miles round trip in just 17 hours to carry out the killings.Here's what we now know from the affidavit:McKee allegedly entered the Tepe property on December 6th while the couple was at the Big Ten Championship game in Indianapolis. Surveillance video captured him on the property for several hours. Monique left the game at halftime, reportedly upset about something involving her ex-husband.Witnesses told investigators McKee had threatened Monique for years, allegedly telling her he could "kill her at any time" and that she would "always be his wife." At least one witness reported allegations of strangulation and forced sex during their marriage.On December 29th, McKee allegedly left his cell phone at the hospital where he worked in Rockford, Illinois. That phone showed no activity for 17 hours—the exact window needed to drive 450 miles to Columbus, commit the murders at approximately 3:50 a.m., and return.Investigators tracked a silver SUV with a distinctive window sticker to McKee. After the murders, fresh scrape marks appeared where the sticker had been. A firearm found at his Chicago condo was matched through ballistics to the crime scene.McKee was arrested 11 days later at a Chick-fil-A near his workplace. He has pleaded not guilty to four counts of aggravated murder and one count of aggravated burglary.#TrueCrimeToday #MichaelMcKee #TepeCase #BreakingNews #ColumbusOhio #AffidavitUnsealed #AggravatedMurder #SpencerTepe #MoniqueTepe #DomesticViolenceJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

This week's episode is a special one because I invited my sister into the “studio” (aka my closet) while she was in town for my book launch. We hit record and talk about what it's like living far apart, her life as a twin mom, the impact of therapy, our Chick-fil-A orders, and how we navigate not always agreeing on politics while still learning from and respecting each other. It's honest, funny, and a little emotional in the best way. I also share a bit about Tiny Tweaks, Happy Life, which just released and is officially out in the world. If you love this podcast, the book is like sitting down for a longer chat with me, full of encouragement and simple, practical ways to create more balance, clarity, and purpose without overhauling your life. If you're in the mood to laugh, maybe tear up, and enjoy a real sister conversation, this episode is for you. Mentioned in This Episode:

In this segment, Pete Mundo dives into some wild theories about Ghislaine Maxwell's alleged activities in Kansas City. He shares his findings from the Epstein files, which show a credit card tied to Maxwell making purchases in the area, including a Casey's pizza in Slater, Missouri. Jon ANthony has a theory that the person using the card might not have been the brightest, and he's got some humorous observations about the purchases. Mark chimes in with Jon and Pete and also talks about other alleged activities in Kansas City, including a visit to the Truman Library and a Chick-fil-A stop at the Detroit airport.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“What would happen if one of the biggest pop stars on Earth secretly recorded a grunge album the world wasn't allowed to hear?”That's the question that launches this unforgettable episode of The Ben and Skin Show, starring Ben Rogers, Jeff “Skin” Wade, Kevin “KT” Turner, and Krystina Ray — and it sends the crew down one of their funniest, most musically nerdy rabbit holes yet.The segment opens inside Krystina's Stainless Cookie Jar, where she drops a jaw‑dropping revelation: in 1995, at the peak of her pop dominance, Mariah Carey recorded a full‑blown grunge album under the alias “Chick”, titled Someone's Ugly Daughter. The label hated it, buried it, and scrubbed it from streaming… but copies still exist, and Mariah insists her original vocals are hiding somewhere in her archives.

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You're listening to American Ground Radio with Stephen Parr and Louis R. Avallone. This is the full show for January 30, 2026. 0:30 For decades, Chick-fil-A wasn’t just fast food — it was a cultural symbol, known for Christian values, closed Sundays, and a service-first mindset that set it apart from every other national brand. But a new article is raising questions about whether that identity has quietly changed. From shifts in charitable giving and accusations of abandoning Christian organizations, to debates over social media messaging, corporate neutrality, and ideological boycotts, we dig into what’s real, what’s rumor, and what actually matters to everyday customers. Is Chick-fil-A still the same company millions trusted — or is this another example of politics creeping into business? And more importantly, should consumers care as long as the chicken is good and the business isn’t hostile to their values? This conversation tackles faith, free markets, merit, cancel culture, and the growing pressure on companies to pick a side. 9:30 Plus, we cover the Top 3 Things You Need to Know. Reporter and former CNN anchor Don Lemon was arrested by federal authorities.He was part of a group of people who invaded a Christian Church service two weekends ago as part of the anti-ICE demonstrations in Minneapolis, Minnesota. President Trump has announced who he plans on naming as the next head of the Federal Reserve.Trump named Kevin Warsh to be the next Fed Chair. A federal Judge has dismissed murder charges against Luigi Mangione.Mangione is accused of killing United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, shooting him from behind on the sidewalk just outside a hotel in Manhattan. 12:30 Get TrimROX from Victory Nutrition International for 20% off. Go to vni.life/agr and use the promo code AGR20. 13:00 We react to an unconscionable move by Mexico’s president, Claudia Sheinbaum, who has reportedly sent her top diplomat to the highest levels of the U.S. government — not to offer cooperation, but to demand that the United States stop targeting Mexican drug cartels. Instead of proposing joint operations to crush fentanyl trafficking or dismantle criminal empires, Sheinbaum’s priority appears to be protecting cartels from U.S. action. We dive into cartel violence, corruption, and control over entire regions of Mexico, while questioning whether the Mexican government is unwilling or simply unable to confront them. 16:00 Is Ashley Tisdale a victim of a toxic Hollywood mom clique — or is this just mean-girl drama with a grown-up twist? American Mamas Teri Netterville and Kimberly Burleson weigh in on the actress’s viral op-ed claiming she was iced out by a celebrity mom group in California. From social media oversharing and jealousy to the dangers of calling out friend groups publicly, the conversation explores whether speaking out actually reveals more about the accuser than the accused. With stories every mom can relate to, we break down mom group dynamics, celebrity cliques, and why “bowing out gracefully” may be the wisest move — especially when kids, schools, and long-term relationships are involved. This candid discussion tackles toxic mom culture, Hollywood parenting drama, and the real-world consequences of airing friendship grievances online. If you'd like to ask our American Mamas a question, go to our website, AmericanGroundRadio.com/mamas and click on the Ask the Mamas button. 23:00 We break down a dramatic escalation in U.S. foreign policy as the Trump administration moves to effectively cut off oil money flowing from Venezuela and Mexico to communist Cuba. With sanctions finally being enforced, “ghost ships” carrying illegal Venezuelan oil are being seized, oil deliveries are drying up, and Cuba’s energy lifeline is collapsing. We connect the dots between Nicolás Maduro, the Cuban regime, and broader threats to U.S. national security, including terrorism and regional instability. Halted shipments from Mexico under U.S. pressure and energy companies pulling out of Cuba are part of a much larger strategy to dismantle hostile regimes in Venezuela, Cuba, and even Iran — and signals that America is no longer looking the other way. 25:30 A longtime Democrat strategist is now delivering a warning that has the Left fuming — and we can’t help but laugh. Rui Teixeira, author of Demographics Is Destiny, says the permanent Democrat majority he once predicted is collapsing, and unless Democrats radically change course, they’re headed for permanent minority status. His solution? Seven “realism” principles that sound a whole lot like Republican policy positions. From energy and economic growth to border security, merit over DEI, biological reality, and even patriotism, we down why Teixeira’s prescriptions are completely incompatible with today’s Democrat Party. And we ask the obvious question: if winning requires Democrats to believe everything Republicans already do, why have a Democrat Party at all? 32:00 Get Prodovite Plus from Victory Nutrition International for 20% off. Go to vni.life/agr and use the promo code AGR20. 32:30 The Democratic Party should take a page straight out of Seinfeld. Using George Costanza’s famous “do the opposite” philosophy, we make the case that every major Democrat instinct — on crime, border security, energy policy, culture, and government spending — has produced the exact opposite of what was promised. Compassion becomes chaos, equity breeds resentment, and progress leads to decline. Tying the analogy to recent warnings from Democrat strategist Rui Teixeira, the we explore whether Democrats could actually win again by abandoning their failed instincts and embracing the opposite approach. 35:30 Plus, it's Fake News Friday! We're putting you to the test with our weekly game of headlines—are they real news, fake news, or really fake news? From ICE chaos and AI images in Senate, to truly ridiculous stories involving Bruce Springsteen, kangaroos, and a “doomsday clock set to infinity," can you spot the fake news? Play along, keep score, and share your results with us on Facebook page: facebook.com/AmericanGroundRadio. 39:30 We reflect on the life and legacy of legendary Notre Dame coach Lou Holtz, following news that he has entered hospice care. More than a Hall of Fame football coach, Holtz was a mentor, a man of faith, and a relentless advocate for discipline, accountability, and personal responsibility. Drawing from personal encounters with him, the conversation highlights how Holtz focused on building men of character first — believing that winning followed naturally. It’s a heartfelt tribute to a leader who shaped generations far beyond the football field and a reminder of how rare and necessary moral clarity and unapologetic leadership are in today’s culture. 41:30 And we finish off with some words of wisdom about long life that will make you say, "Whoa!" Articles Luigi Mangione will not face the death penalty after judge nixes two federal counts Seven Principles for a 21st Century Left Follow us: americangroundradio.com Facebook: facebook.com / AmericanGroundRadio Instagram: instagram.com/americangroundradioSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chick chats with Jim LaBarbara, Jerry Flick, Dennis Janson, and Zach Amsler. He also takes your calls on topics related to the Reds and the NFL season.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Don't make your work your identity.” – Jacob Karnes Today's featured fellow bookcaster is a father, husband, business coach, keynote speaker, and the founder of Waves Business Coaching, Jacob Karnes. Jacob and I had a fun on a Chick-fil-A bun chat about his first book, “Master Your First Job: The Remarkable Path From First Day to First Promotion”, intentional leadership, the power of specific, positive feedback, and more!!Key Things You'll Learn:What inspired Jacob to write his 1st book, and what he learned about himself through the processThe WIN Method for giving effective feedback as a leaderAre Chick-fil-A employees hypnotized when they deliver their elite level of customer service

What would make a 30-year-old with a corner office, a clear path to CEO, and more money than he ever imagined… walk away from it all?That's the question at the center of this conversation with Daniel Harkavy.Daniel spent his 20s grinding in the mortgage banking world, chasing deals, money, and success. By 30, he was next in line to run the company—but a quiet inner voice told him this wasn't the life he was meant to live. So he walked away.For the last three decades, Daniel has helped high-performing leaders do what this show is all about: build successful businesses without sacrificing their life in the process. As Founder of Building Champions, he's coached CEOs and executive teams at organizations like Chick-fil-A, Pfizer, and Bank of America.We talk about why so many leaders burn out after they scale, how culture and leadership behavior quietly shape everything, and what it really means to do business and life by design.5 of the biggest insights from Daniel Harkavy…#1.) Walking Away Wasn't Quitting, It Was ClarityDaniel walked away at the height of his career because success didn't feel sustainable anymore. A one-year sabbatical forced him to realize that continuing would have meant building a life he didn't want, no matter how successful it looked.#2.) A Smart Approach to Hiring Top PerformersDaniel built his team by intentionally spending time building relationships with his competitors — learning their goals, understanding where they were stuck, and finding ways to help them improve. By genuinely helping competitors grow where they were, he built trust, loyalty, and credibility. And when the time came, people chose him willingly.#3.) Scaling Without Vision Is How Advisors Get StuckA lot of advisors scale because they think they're supposed to. But if the “why” isn't clear, growth just adds complexity, stress, and people problems. Scaling only works when you're being pulled forward by a clear vision — not pushed by ego, comparison, or fear of missing out.#4.) Emotional Volatility Quietly Destroys CultureEmotional blowups cost more than most leaders realize. The energy spent repairing internal damage is energy not spent growing the business. Over time, volatility wears down culture, momentum, and trust, even when intentions are good.#5.) Fear Loses Power When You Zoom OutWhen you really ask, “What's the worst case?” most of the fear driving decisions starts to shrink. Failure is part of building anything meaningful, but it's rarely the disaster we imagine. Perspective changes the weight of decisions and helps you build with intention instead of fear.SHOW NOTEShttps://bradleyjohnson.com/153FOLLOW BRAD JOHNSON ON SOCIALTwitterInstagramLinkedInFOLLOW DBDL ON SOCIAL:YouTubeTwitterInstagramLinkedInFacebookDISCLOSURE DBDL podcast episode conversations are intended to provide financial advisors with ideas, strategies, concepts and tools that could be incorporated into their business and their life. No statements made in the episode are offered as, and shall not constitute financial, investment, tax or legal advice. Financial professionals are responsible for ensuring implementation of anything discussed related to business is done so in accordance with any and all regulatory, compliance responsibilities and obligations. The Triad member statements reflect their own experience which may not be representative of all Triad Member experiences, and their appearances were not paid for. Triad Wealth Partners, LLC is an SEC Registered Investment Adviser. Please visit Triadwealthpartners.com for more information. Triad Wealth Partners, LLC and Triad Partners, LLC are affiliated companies.TP01255162010 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fatburger files for bankruptcy as GLP-1 weight-loss drugs reshape eating habits, while Starbucks experiments with protein coffee to keep up with changing demand. Meanwhile, Amazon announces plans to shut down all Amazon Go and Amazon Fresh stores, signaling a major retail pivot. Lou also breaks down how cold weather impacts strawberry production—making them sweeter—and takes a look at Chick-fil-A’s three new test menu items.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode 409. Most husbands want honeymoon-level sex with roommate-level effort. In this episode, we break down how to have sex with your wife like she's your new chick. Throught pursuit, presence, and real intimacy. We'll talk boyfriend energy vs. husband autopilot, all-day foreplay, and how to bring back flirting, anticipation, and mystery without being corny or disrespectful. You'll learn simple shifts that make her feel seen, desired, and safe, so the bedroom stops feeling like a chore and starts feeling like the beginning again.  Sponsor:The Hidden Rules of Wealth: A Banker's Guide to Financial Freedom ========= Podcast Interview Promo =========   Quick Link -------> How to Protect Your Money When the Economy Shifts A Freedom Guide to Using Podcasting to Create Impact, Income, and Influence The Survival Blueprint: Navigating Disasters, Civil Unrest and the Unknown The video series explores quantum computing with expert insights, vivid animations, and clear storytelling.

Send us a textHow do you scale a business without losing your values, culture, sanity—or your life outside of work?In this episode of the Spartan Leadership Podcast, Josh Kosnick sits down with Trace Miller, military veteran and founder of Konala, a fast-growing healthy fast-food franchise built on simplicity, discipline, and execution.Trace breaks down what most leaders get wrong about scaling—and why chasing complexity, top-line revenue, or “passive income” often destroys the very thing you're trying to grow.This conversation goes deep on: • Scaling without burnout • Why simplicity beats sophistication • How to remove people, processes, and products that no longer fit • Profit vs. vanity metrics • Leadership lessons from military service • Building systems that scale without losing culture • Why work-life integration matters more than balanceIf you're a founder, operator, or leader trying to grow without losing yourself, this episode will challenge how you think about scale.

In this episode of The Last 10%, host Dallas Burnett interviews Jeff Henderson, a former Chick-fil-A marketing executive turned pastor and leadership strategist. Jeff shares his unique journey from corporate success to founding thriving churches and the "FOR" organization, aimed at helping organizations grow with purpose. The conversation delves into Jeff's innovative marketing strategies, including the iconic Chick-fil-A cow campaign, and his transition from business to ministry. He emphasizes the importance of aligning one's strengths with their purpose, fostering learning organizations, and being faithful in small things. Jeff also recounts the impact of inspirational figures like Truett Cathy and John Maxwell on his career and personal philosophy. This episode is packed with valuable insights for leaders, coaches, and business owners looking to unlock the last 10% of their potential.Find out more about Jeff and FOR: https://jeffhenderson.com/Follow Jeff on Instagram at: @jefferyhenderson

We are just weeks away from opening my new IMPACT-X Performance facility in San Diego, CA. And one of the most important things from the start is creating an amazing culture. We did it at Fitness Quest 10. And we'll do it again. In today's episode of the IMPACT SHOW podcast, I'm going ALL-IN on why culture is the ultimate performance advantage—and why it will always outperform strategy, systems, or talent alone. This isn't theory or buzzwords. This is real-time leadership straight from the trenches as we prepare to open IXP-San Diego from the ground up (literally!). I'm sharing exactly what it takes to build a world-class culture from Day One, the mistakes that leaders sometimes make that can quietly destroy an organization, and the non-negotiable standards that high-performing teams must live by every single day to build, grow, and sustain an iconic culture. If you're a leader, coach, gym owner, or business owner who wants stronger teams, deeper loyalty, and an even more long-lasting impact—this episode is for YOU. Here are just a few things you'll learn in Episode 463: Why culture always beats strategy (and determines whether plans live or die). The biggest leadership mistakes that can silently destroy culture. Why you don't get the culture you want—you get the culture you lead and tolerate Real examples from world-class brands like Ritz-Carlton, Nordstrom, Chick-fil-A, Disney, Amazon, and more… How to define and live out a clear brand promise. The IMPACT-X Performance Culture Standards, including these 5 credos: o Be the Light – bringing energy, belief, and encouragement into every interaction o People First, Always – seeing the person before the protocol o Own the Experience – if it happens in our building, it's our responsibility o Energy Is a Skill – we don't wait for it, we choose it o Excellence Is the Baseline – good is never good enough                                                      o Leave a Legacy – every interaction is a chance to change a life 3-critical culture rules every leader must enforce: Why one wrong hire with the wrong energy can undo years of great work…and how to prevent it through our proven hiring process. Why it is that two organizations that have the same strategy, the same talent, and even the same resources—one can thrive and excel…while the other slowly falls apart and dies. How culture compounds—for better or worse. Get it RIGHT from the start! Remember my friends, culture is not a mission statement hanging on a wall or a list of values buried on a website. It's not what you say when things are easy or when business is booming. Culture is revealed under pressure. It shows up in how your team treats each other when no one is watching, how they respond when things go wrong, and how your clients and members feel the moment they walk through the door—and the moment they leave. Culture doesn't improve just because time passes or systems change. It improves when leadership improves. You don't get the culture you hope for or wish for—you get the culture you lead, model, and tolerate every single day. So here's the challenge. Don't wait until energy drops, turnover rises, or cracks start to show before you address culture. Start now. Take a hard look at the standards you're enforcing, the behaviors you're allowing, and the energy you're bringing into every room you walk into. Have the conversations you've been avoiding. Reinforce the standards that matter most. And remember—culture starts with you.  If this episode spoke to you, share it with your team, talk about it in your next meeting, and commit to building a culture that's intentional, aligned, and world-class. Because when you lead culture the right way, everything else—performance, loyalty, and impact—follows.  Please do me a favor and do 1 (or all 3) of the following things: 1. Please forward this episode to a friend, colleague, or family member whom it might benefit. 2. If you have a newsletter or put out emails to your Community, please consider putting a link to this episode if it would serve them also. 3. Please screenshot this episode, share it to your IG stories or on your Facebook, and tag me: IG: @ToddDurkin FB: @ToddDurkinIXP @ImpactXSanDiego #WorldClassCulture #CultureIsKing To RECEIVE the latest updates, announcements, specials, and all the happenings around IMPACT-X Performance, you can opt-in at www.impactXsandiego.com.     JOBS AVAILABLE Now at IMPACT-X Performance (SAN DIEGO)!! (If you apply for any of the positions, please share in the Subject Line what role you are applying to): Personal Trainer/Coach Positions. While we are not opening until February 2026, we are currently accepting applications as we prepare to Build a World-Class Team of Trainers starting in January 2026. If you are trainer/S&C coach who is looking for a great opportunity to change lives in San Diego, CA, now is your opportunity to be part of our team. I will be personally leading this group of coaches who will serve in both personal training AND large-group training roles. More Details / Apply Now Here! Stretch Therapists. We will have our signature hands-on "IMPACT Stretch Flow" sessions complimenting our training & recovery services. If you are already certified in FST or other stretch therapy (or you're a coach who wants to learn hands-on manual stretching of our clients/members), APPLY TODAY Massage Therapists. Massage therapy has been part of my fitness offerings since Day 1 over 25-years ago. And it's only MORE important now. We WILL have incredible Massage Therapy available at IXP-San Diego and we are exciting to share the power of touch. APPLY TODAY Directors of First Impressions. We love our "Directors of First Impressions" as they play a crucial role in setting the culture and offering extreme positivity, encouragement, and support to our clients/members. If you feel you could be a great addition to our San Diego location, please apply. APPLY TODAY Visit this page to get all the information or to APPLY today… HERE!

Today we're looking beyond the alleged double homicide of Monique and Spencer Tepe to ask a question that affects every patient in America: How did the man charged with their murders get licensed to practice medicine in the first place?Michael McKee, a vascular surgeon, allegedly killed his ex-wife and her husband in Columbus, Ohio on December 30, 2025. He was arrested eleven days later at a Chick-fil-A blocks from the Illinois hospital where he was still employed. But the red flags existed long before the murders.A Nevada malpractice attorney spent two years trying to serve McKee with papers. The addresses provided by McKee's surgical group didn't exist. His Nevada license expired in June 2025 while the lawsuit was still pending. Yet Illinois granted him a medical license in 2024 and OSF Saint Anthony Medical Center credentialed him to operate on patients.The system designed to catch doctors like McKee - the National Practitioner Data Bank - only tracks paid claims, not pending lawsuits. Many state boards don't even query it. A major investigation found over 500 doctors disciplined in one state practicing elsewhere with clean records.In education they call it "passing the trash" and there's federal law against it. In medicine? There's nothing. The AMA has fought to keep the NPDB closed to the public. And patients have no way to know if their surgeon has a troubled history in another state.Today we examine the systemic failures - and ask how many other doctors like McKee are still out there.#MichaelMcKee #MoniqueTepe #SpencerTepe #TrueCrimeToday #MedicalBoard #Malpractice #PatientSafety #NPDB #TrueCrime #DoctorDisciplineJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Special Patreon Release: Better Together with Jon and Jolene Rocke   "What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." Mark 10:9 (KJV)   *Transcription Below*   Questions and Topics We Discuss: What are you so thankful you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to empty nesters that you see the pay off now in the present? How has grace and forgiveness benefited your relationship? What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one, rather than grow parallel or even grow apart from one another?   Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching, but the topic we are going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them and appreciated their sweet bond with one another, and I'm so thrilled to introduce you to them today. Here's our chat:   Jon and Jolene both grew up in Christian homes and accepted Jesus as their Savior and Lord at the age of 15.  Jon is from Morton and Jolene from Elgin, IL. They met on a bus ride to a Youth Gathering in Minnesota.  They sat together and talked the whole way home about life, the Bible and God.  Jon played his guitar and sang John Denver songs and their match was made with “Sunshine on my Shoulders”.   They married at the age of 18 and had their first child, Janelle, at 19.  They left for Grace college in Winona Lake, Indiana with an 18 month old toddler in tow and had another baby girl born while in college named Jaime.  At graduation in 1984, they were accepted to Trinity Seminary to follow Jon's desire to be a Professor of Theology, but became pregnant with their son, Jordan, which changed every plan and sent them back home to build up their finances.   They came back to Morton and worked in the Family Business and felt called to stay.  They raised their 3 children in Morton working in the business until God loosened their tent pegs and called them to Peoria Rescue Ministries in 2017. Jon is the Executive Director and Jolene is the Ministry Ambassador.  They are thankful to be working side-by-side in this new season of their marriage.   Jon and Jolene will celebrate their 44th wedding anniversary and have 3 married children and have 10 grandchildren. Their son Jordan and his wife Jessica live in Sandpoint, Idaho with their 3 Kids.  Their daughter Janelle and husband Ryan live in Kennesaw, Georgia with their 3 children.  And their daughter Jaime and her husband Jonathan live here in Morton with their 4 children.   Related Episodes from The Savvy Sauce: 5 Love Languages with Dr. Gary Chapman Traveling with Your Family with Katie Mueller   At The Savvy Sauce, we will only recommend resources we believe in! We also want you to be aware: We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.   Five Love Languages The 5 Love Languages of Teenagers A Teen's Guide to the 5 Love Languages   Thank You to Our Sponsors: Chick-fil-A East Peoria and The Savvy Sauce Charities (and donate online here)   Connect with The Savvy Sauce on Facebook, Instagram or Our Website.   Please help us out by sharing this episode with a friend, leaving a 5-star rating and review, and subscribing to this podcast!   Gospel Scripture: (all NIV) Romans 3:23 “for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,”   Romans 3:24 “and are justified freely by his grace through the redemption that came by Christ Jesus.”   Romans 3:25 (a) “God presented him as a sacrifice of atonement, through faith in his blood.”   Hebrews 9:22 (b) “without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.”   Romans 5:8 “But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.”   Romans 5:11 “Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.”   John 3:16 “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.”   Romans 10:9 “That if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   Luke 15:10 says “In the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”   Romans 8:1 “Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus”   Ephesians 1:13–14 “And you also were included in Christ when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation. Having believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God's possession- to the praise of his glory.”   Ephesians 1:15–23 “For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all the saints, I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the spirit of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. I pray also that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in the saints, and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is like the working of his mighty strength, which he exerted in Christ when he raised him from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every title that can be given, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.”   Ephesians 2:8–10 “For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith – and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God – not by works, so that no one can boast. For we are God‘s workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works, which God prepared in advance for us to do.“   Ephesians 2:13 “But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near through the blood of Christ.“   Philippians 1:6 “being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.”   *Transcription*   Music: (0:00 – 0:09)   Laura Dugger: (0:10 - 2:05) Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, where we have practical chats for intentional living. I'm your host, Laura Dugger, and I'm so glad you're here. I want to say a huge thank you to today's sponsors for this episode, Chick-fil-A East Peoria and Savvy Sauce Charities.   Are you interested in a free college education for you or someone you know? Stay tuned for details coming later in this episode from today's sponsor, Chick-fil-A East Peoria. You can also visit their website today at https://www.chick-fil-a.com/locations/il/east-peoria.   If you've been with us long, you know this podcast is only one piece of our nonprofit, which is the Savvy Sauce Charities. Don't miss out on our other resources. We have questions and content to inspire you to have your own practical chats for intentional living.   And I also hope you don't miss out on the opportunity to financially support us through your tax-deductible donations. All this information can be found on our recently updated website, thesavvysauce.com.   Jon and Jolene Rocke are my local friends and my guests for today. They work side by side at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and they have so many lovely gifts of leadership and hospitality and teaching. But the topic we're going to focus on today is marriage. From the first time we met, Mark and I adored them so much and really appreciated their sweet bond with one another. And I'm so thrilled to get to introduce you to them today.   Here's our chat. Welcome to The Savvy Sauce, Jon and Jolene.   Jon Rocke: (2:05 - 2:06) We're so happy to be here, Laura. Thanks so much for having us.   Laura Dugger: (2:07 - 2:43) Well, it's truly my pleasure. And will the two of you just start by giving us a little background on how you came to know Christ as your personal Lord and Savior?   Jolene Rocke: (2:07 - 2:43) Yeah, I grew up in the Chicago area in a suburb and in a Christian home. So, I was very thankful to know about God. And I came to know Him as my personal Savior at 15. And so, then I really had a complete change. And from then on, I have just followed Him as close as I can. So very thankful for Jesus.   Jon Rocke: (2:44 - 2:59) Yeah, and I was actually 15 as well. Became overwhelmed with my sin at 15 and knew that I did not know Christ. And so, since then, a very imperfect following, but glad to be part of the family.   Laura Dugger: (3:00 - 3:15) Well, and that's awesome that both of you were 15 and never knew that piece of your story. But I'm assuming you were living in different places. So then how did the two of you meet and fall in love?   Jolene Rocke: (3:15 - 4:40) That is such a funny story. Because I, along with a friend of mine from Elgin, jumped on a Morton bus going to Morris, Minnesota. And they picked us up in Rockford. And we got on the bus, went to the same youth gathering for our church denomination. And on the way home from that weekend, we sat on the bus the whole way home and talked.   And Jon had what was so interesting to me, a study Bible. And I had never seen a study Bible in my life. And so, he showed me what an open Bible was with notes at the bottom. And because I came to Christ at 15 and started Bible study on my own with just a spiral notebook, a pen, and my Bible, I was fascinated by this Bible.   And I heard from Morton girls that he carried his Bible everywhere. So, he was kind of different than the rest of the guys. And I told them that's the kind of guy I was looking for. And then to top it all off, he had a guitar. And he sang John Denver songs to me. So, Sunshine on My Shoulders, I think, really made me happy.   Laura Dugger: (4:40 - 4:45) Just knowing your family music is such a big part of worship. Yeah. That's part of what wooed you, too.   Jon Rocke: (4:40 - 5:35) Yeah. Part of the crazy story is that it's a long trip. It's like a 12-hour trip. And so, we left Morton at like 5 in the morning. And so, I'm sleeping on the floor. And we picked these girls up. And I wake up, and I'm like, “Oh, an angel just got on the bus.” That's what I thought. And she was like, she didn't really have anything to do with me the whole weekend till the way home.   But we have a lot of fun with that story. And so that was the beginning. I think I sent flowers the next day. And we began, actually, a very long-distance, over-the-phone relationship, getting to know each other. And we actually went through, I think, the Book of Romans together over the course of, I guess, a year. And then got married. And we were pretty young.   Jolene Rocke: (5:36 - 6:47) Yeah. We met when Jon was just 16. And then two weeks after his 18th birthday, we got married. And I'm a year older. So, it was very young. But we are so thankful because we're going to celebrate 44 years of marriage here.   So, God knit us together, I think, through the fact that we were both really pursuing the Lord individually. And then we were so happy to find somebody like that. I thought I was headed to be a missionary in Africa at the time I met him. And he was, like, searching, too. But both all out pursuit of Christ. And so, I think that's what knit our hearts together. And it didn't hurt that he sent flowers the next day.   Laura Dugger: (6:47 - 7:15) It was a wise move. But I love it because the two of you have really grown up together. Totally. You've been meeting as teens. When you reflect back, what are you so thankful that you did in every season of marriage, from newlyweds to now empty nesters, that you're getting to see the payoff now in the present?   Jon Rocke: (6:49 - 8:10) Yeah, I think sometimes you are intentional. And we've tried to be intentional. But I think sometimes God brings circumstances into your life that sort of force something. So not only were we young when we got married, but nine months after we got married, yeah, we had Janelle, our oldest daughter.   And so, we had to realize we still needed time together. And we had a little baby. It began, I think, an intentional course for us to carve out time. So, you know, we put our kids to bed early. It was a big deal for us as parents that we had our time after they went to bed because we didn't get a whole lot of time.   And other little silly things, the kids didn't get to sit in between us at church. That was the rule. You can sit on either side of mom and dad, but you can't sit in between us. And so that was just, you know, again, a little thing that we did. And some things we had to learn. I'm more of a night person. Jolene's more of a morning person. Part of that, we had to learn at one point, you know, let's make sure we prioritize going to bed together. Just so, again, we had that time. So, there's been all sorts of different steps along the way that we've tried to prioritize each other.   Jolene Rocke: (8:10 - 9:01) So the two words that come to my mind with regard to that are compromise. You're two different people, and you're suddenly thrust together into a home situation. Well, that took compromise on both of our parts. So that's kind of sacrifice, too. That means he doesn't get to stay up until midnight if we want to go to bed together, and I'm going to have to push myself to stay up later just so that we can make a common bedtime.   So, compromise, and then I think the other major thing to me would be communication, because we didn't have a relationship before marriage where we were in the same town and could see each other all the time or go on dates. We didn't have that. So, we had letter writing. This is 43 years ago. So, we had letter writing daily.   Jon Rocke: (9:02 - 9:04) Some of us were daily. He was daily.   Jolene Rocke: (9:05 - 9:11) I wasn't quite as good at letter writing every day, but I was in college by now.   Jon Rocke: (9:11 - 9:13) You were still in high school. Now we know.   Jolene Rocke: (9:14 - 10:15) But I think the communication factor, that actually helped us because, yes, I realize face-to-face dating is a great thing, but to not be able to do that and have nothing but be able to write your day out, what happened during your day, you're learning to tell the other person what happened in your day, how you felt about that, what your dreams, your goals are. So, it started, to me and us, I think a great foundation of communication.   Laura Dugger: (10:15 - 10:30) And is it Song of Songs, I believe, 5:16, where part of it says, “This is my lover, this is my friend,” and that's what I'm hearing, is that you were really deepening your friendship in those early years and that from witnessing your lives, it seems that has only continued.   Jolene Rocke: (10:30 - 10:35) Yeah, exactly. We are so thankful. It's a very different story than most people, but we're so thankful.   Jon Rocke: (10:16 - 10:39) I think also, for us, it was Genesis 2 in the sense that you need to leave everything else and cleave together. We were young. It's hard to believe. When we look back, we think about our kids and our grandkids and would we want that for them, and yet I don't think we'd trade it for the world.   Laura Dugger: (10:40 - 10:52) I love that. And what encouragement do you have for others then who are also wanting to build a foundation of remaining connected and intimate in all the aspects of their own marriage?   Jon Rocke: (10:53 - 12:07) That's one of those things about being intentional. Matthew 19:6, where Christ repeats that adage from Genesis 2, that God created them male and female, they need to leave mother and father and cleave together, but then he adds this, “and no one should tear that apart.” And we often think about that, I think, as other people tearing that apart, and that's true.   But the same goes, we can tear ourselves apart if we're not going to make sure everything else, all other distractions, because they're going to continually come, right? And again, we had kids so early that I think we knew we had to carve that time out, because if we wouldn't have, I'm not sure how that would have worked. We would have been so consumed early. But career, we've just known that we've had to say, if we don't make sure that we're the priority, it's so easy to get lost in all the other things of life that are not bad. Kids are not bad, they're great. And your careers and your work, that's all good. But it can be the enemy of great in a marriage.   Jolene Rocke: (12:07 - 12:32) Yeah, we talked about the fact that this is how we started all those years ago. But a pursuit of God individually actually enhances a pursuit of God together. I'm still in the Word individually. Jon's still in the Word individually. But we also then read and pray together every night. So just this pursuit of God.   Jon Rocke: (12:32 - 13:06) But that wasn't something we did from day one either. I mean, that was a learned scenario where one time we were just kind of convicted of the fact that together we're not taking time to pray and read together. And so, then we just made that part of routine at night. So then again, that made us say we're going to go to bed together. Because if we didn't, then we didn't have that time. That opportunity to pray together and read together has just become a connection point that we wouldn't want to trade.   Laura Dugger: (13:07 - 13:55) I think that's encouraging in so many ways because you've grown into this. And I think for anyone just starting out, it's so helpful to see you didn't let excuses get in the way. It reminds me of a supervisor in college who said, “If you want something done, give it to a busy person.” And I think in a unique way with you two being launched into parenthood nine months after you were married, you didn't have the luxury of being frivolous with your time. And you chose intentionality. And it seems like God really has blessed that and honored it.   Jolene Rocke: (13:55 - 14:05) Yeah and continued it to this day. You're very right. We continue to be busy. And that's still the struggle to combat that with intentional time together. So definitely.   Jon Rocke: (13:55 - 14:31) You talk about seasons in our lives. So, I had to have a hip replacement. So, from like 23 till I had that at 50, I couldn't take long walks. But now we get to walk together, which is a huge privilege. And so, I always think about it. I'm not into exercise to exercise, but I'm into being together. And exercise is a thing we can do together. The other thing we did in our, I guess it was on our 25th. We got a tandem bike. And we love doing our tandem bike.   Jolene Rocke: (14:31 - 16:21) But he wanted a tandem bike right when we got married. And I kept saying, no, I didn't really want to sit on the back and have no control. And not be able to see when I thought I should break or when I wanted to turn.   So, this is something that I often encourage women that are moving into the emptiness season of life. I was driving to church alone. And the Lord really impressed on me that the extreme lavish amount of love that as a homemaker I gave to my children who were now gone, I needed to transfer that to my husband.   I've always loved Jon first and best. But I needed to take even the time commitment. What could I do to show Jon I loved him lavishly the way I tried to my children? So that was a time thing for me. And it was like get a tandem bike. So, I was willing then to get the tandem and sit in the back. And you really do; you're called the stoker. You really do work in the back. You don't just sit there. You work. But I no longer had the control of that. And I am learning to see butterflies land on corn stalks. And I actually love our tandem bike. But God had to grow me. And that was part of my several gifts to him in emptiness period that has helped us keep a strong marriage, I think.   Laura Dugger: (16:21 - 16:30) And isn't that interesting how there's a gift in it for you? Like you offer this sacrifice and yet he's teaching you new things.   Jon Rocke: (16:21 - 16:22) I love it, yeah.   Laura Dugger: (16:23 - 16:45) What would you two say is the biggest personality difference that you've recognized in your own marriage?   Jolene Rocke: (16:45 - 17:22) We just had a personality test yesterday. We have an executive team leadership at Peoria Rescue Ministries, and we had to do personality tests again. And that always is quite glaring to see how different we are. So, we're on two ends of the spectrum. But we can encourage any marriage that that can work and actually maybe be in your favor as long as you work hard at it. So, it just takes work and communication to say, you're very logical thinking, I'm very emotional, so how do we come together then in situations where I'm flustered and he's calm because he at times looks as if you don't care.   Jon Rocke: (17:22 - 17:53) Right, yeah, it can be that. You're highly relational. I'm definitely more process. And I think you're going to learn quickly, especially if you have kids, that all your kids are going to have different personalities. That's the weirdest thing, right? They all grew up in the same home and they're all just completely different. And so being able to help them understand kind of a little bit who they are and how that works has been a good thing that we're not the same.   Jolene Rocke: (17:53 - 20:01) God didn't make one good and one bad. He made all of us different, all in His image, to His glory. We all bring value to the family, and we both bring value to one another as helpmates because I'm able to sharpen Jon in areas that are blind spots for him. He's able to totally sharpen me and calm me in blind spots that are mine. So, I think in a marriage, it's just actually, it's been helpful. Differences are good.   Laura Dugger: (20:01 - 20:25) Oh, I love that. Differences are good. It sounds like God sanctified even your views of that. And so, getting really practical, when was a time when your differences were working against each other or caused conflict? And then how, through maturing and more time together, how do you celebrate and even lean into and appreciate those differences?   Jolene Rocke: (20:25 - 21:00) Well, one thing for sure is we had what we call our valley, where we learned that Psalm 23 wasn't just a funeral psalm, but it's a life psalm, and it's a way of life psalm. So, at that time, I had three family members pass away, and Jon had his family business go down. So, we watched our personalities within that in handling loss and grief. So, here's the optimist really down, and here's realist trying to be cheerleader and be up.   And so actually God did it, and we know without a doubt that God can work beyond personalities and bring you to a point where you can actually support one another well. But there again, it's got to be intentional. It's got to be me saying, we need to sit down now and have a meeting, talk about how you're feeling, whether you want to talk about feelings or not, because I need to know where you're at so that I can help you best.   Jon Rocke: (20:01 - 21:20) Yeah, and on a practical level during that time, I found myself not communicating some of what I thought was either scary or just the long drag of it. And so that was a potential way for us to disconnect because all of this is swirling from at least our livelihood standpoint, swirling in my head, and I'm not going to want to share that. And yet we realized we had to, but then those are not always easy things because Jolene, like most ladies, likes security as an important thing, right? Of just knowing what's going to happen.   In the end, it did make us really, again, Joe mentioned Psalm 23, and if he is our shepherd, what else could we want? We both had to end up clinging to that because our security was gone. Part of our sense of who we were, and particularly me in a family business for three generations, was gone. And so, we certainly had to make sure that our tendencies, like in communication, those kinds of things, we had to work through those during that time.   Laura Dugger: (21:21 - 21:30) Thank you for sharing that. I think that's very relatable to hear about the ups and the downs. And so, do you have any specific stories of a time when you were both in your strengths, and even though they were very different, they worked well together?   Jolene Rocke: (21:30 - 23:12) Yeah, I think that it's the learning what your strengths are that you may not know that God gives you at the time, and that's his grace. So, at the time, for all those years previous to the valley, Jon was the one that pushed me to communicate, and shutting down was not an option, which is what I wanted to do. So, I'd rather just not talk about it and go to bed. And he would push, push, push me to keep communicating, and that we would work through everything before the sun went down, as the Bible says.   Well, in the valley, it was Jon that was shutting down. And suddenly, you know, I had to be the one to push communication. So, this is something I heard on a sermon. A personality is not an excuse for sin. So that just means that I can't say, well, I'm not comfortable in conflict, so I'm not going to communicate and I'm going to shut down. No, you need to push yourself, ask the Lord for help, and go as his helpmate and say, you have to talk about it, you have to tell me, how are you doing? How are you feeling? So, I feel like it's just, it was such a beautiful valley when we look back now.   Laura Dugger: (23:12 - 23:25) Another previous guest had said she noticed when she was in the valley, that's when you're closest to the living water.   Jon Rocke: (23:13 - 24:41) Oh, absolutely. For sure. That's how creeks run, through valleys. Yeah. And I think our parenting, it was helpful for us to have both sides of our personality in parenting because I think we could address situations with our kids from different viewpoints and different ways to think about things, and those were helpful things as well.   But we also, during all sorts of the periods of time in our marriage, we had some little things that just reminded us. We had little words. So one was, you know, “we need to swim back.” So, you can often find yourself, because of a season of time or a season with your kids or whatever on the different islands, and we would just say, we got to swim back. And so that was one of our things that we did. And then we also had a, if we went too long, we just realized we weren't intentional about our intimacy of any kind. It was just basically, “Hey, you didn't kiss me today.” And we used to make that, “No, you didn't kiss me today.” And it was just a thing we tried to do to make sure that we had these little things that just kept us reminded. And so, they were really, they were kind of practical, just little code words for us that made a difference and got our minds back to where it needed to be.   Jolene Rocke: (24:41 - 24:50) Yeah, and in the busyness, that's easy to remember those little swing thoughts.   Laura Dugger: (24:50 - 30:17) Swim back. And now a brief message from our sponsor.   Did you know you can go to college tuition free just by being a team member at Chick-fil-A East Peoria? Yes, you heard that right. Free college education. All Chick-fil-A East Peoria team members in good standing are immediately eligible for a free college education through Point University. Point University is a fully accredited private Christian college located in West Point, Georgia. 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We ask that you also will share by sharing financially, sharing the Savvy Sauce podcast episodes, and sharing a five-star rating and review. You can also share any of our social media posts on Instagram or Facebook. We are grateful for all of it and we just love partnering together with you.   Now, back to the show. What encouragement do you have for healthy communication and healthy conflict resolution in marriage?   Jon Rocke: (30:19 - 31:31) God's grace. It's going to have to take time. You have to find that time together. So, I think it's all about prioritizing that time. I don't necessarily like conflict, but I know in our marriage you can't avoid it. And so, we just had to work through it right away. And so, I would say don't let time simmer conflict because that usually never makes it better.   Certainly, there's a sense of if there's something that's really emotional and maybe you need some space. My problem is I often don't give Jolene that space and that's hard on her, it really is, and sometimes not fair. But in the same vein, for me it felt like I didn't care if I just said, “Well, go ahead and be angry or be whatever or be upset about this or just let's not deal with it.” And she was gracious in pressing in and doing that. But I think don't let time go, just deal with it.   Jolene Rocke: (31:32 - 33:26) And two, the encouragement I think of is that Jon and I tell each other everything, every little thing. And we are very aware of couples that don't. And when Jon was holding back for me in that valley time, I really noticed it and I felt pretty alone. So, if you're always telling each other everything, there should be no secrets. So that just means there might be conflict then. If you're going to tell each other everything, then there might be conflict and you need to be prepared for that.   But that's better than me not saying anything. I sometimes say it's like a teapot, you're simmering or you're spouting. What's the perfect in the middle balance? It's really important to not simmer because you will spout eventually and then that's a harder conflict than if you just kept talking, kept telling every little thing. And so, we do tell each other every little thing.   Laura Dugger: (33:26 - 33:40) Well, and to go with that metaphor, if you have a release valve where that hot air can escape, it sounds like your communication has been that where you can get the water temperature back to a healthy place in the relationship.   Jolene Rocke: (33:40 - 33:55) Yeah, yes. And that takes work. So, I mean, honestly, what encouragement? Don't give up. Just keep going because it's worth it.   Laura Dugger: (33:55 - 34:10) Well, and I'm thinking back. Okay, so you had three kids. They're somewhat close together and you were young. So those years when all of your children were in the home, even elementary school age, that timeframe, what did that look like for communication? How did you still make sure you connected every day?   Jon Rocke: (33:26 - 34:31) Well, then throw in, we went to college after we had kids, which was actually, again, just God's grace and gift to us that we were able to leave town, leave the family business for a while, didn't think we were going to be involved in family business, went out to Indiana, went to school, and we didn't have anybody else but ourselves. And so that, again, was just his gift to us as young. We went in 1980, so that was two years after we were married. So, we already had Janelle at that point, and then Jamie came along soon after. And so, I had school but had to work to support. Jolene had to work and she was mom to two little ones. And so, again, I think it was just those times of making sure that we said nothing else can get in the way of us. Again, another phrase that we just had was, you know, we can get through anything together and nothing apart.   Jolene Rocke: (34:32 - 35:21) And that's not a flippant statement for us. That means we're trying and we're going to find the intentional time, put them to bed early, and make sure on weekends we're connecting well. And that meant sometimes driving with our kids. We'd go on drives. But that's Jon and I being able to talk. And then if they're goofing off in the back seat, it's okay. It's just fine because we actually are having talk time. Drive time has always been great communication time for us.   Laura Dugger: (35:21 - 35:35) That's really helpful, I think, for parents in any season. And you're talking about God's grace. So how has grace, and even forgiveness, benefited your relationship?   Jolene Rocke: (35:35 - 35:40) It's everything to our relationship.   Jon Rocke: (35:22 - 37:12) It's the only thing in everything. The parable of the unjust steward in Matthew 18 and just this idea that if you catch the enormity of your sin, then you can forgive others. And so that has been, I think, an important part of what we do because I love that whole story. Peter is asking that question, “How many times do I have to forgive somebody?” And if you think about a marriage context, well, that's a great question because my guess is it's going to be thousands upon thousands of times for whatever little or big things they are. And he's kind of like loading up. I feel that he's getting ready to say, “I've already forgiven this person six times. So, is it seven? And then after that, there's no more?” And the whole point of that is, oh, you really want to keep numbers, Peter? Here's the numbers. You've been forgiven zillions. And so, what's the little trifle amount that you're not going to forgive? And so, I'm thankful that Jolene is gracious because she's had to forgive me and continues to. We're still learning in a new season of life where now we get to work together, which to me is a really great joy. But it's also a different reality where we have a lot of work talk. Well, that's great. And we love that. But that can't dominate everything either. And so that's another one of those things that we have to figure out how to carve out our time away from work. Even though we enjoy working together and it's really fun, it's a new thing. That can't get in the way of us either.   Jolene Rocke: (37:13 - 40:14) There's got to be grace on both parts that now as I look at him as a boss also. And my husband, you know, I need to give a lot of grace to realize he's working within a momentum around a team and a leadership. But then as he comes home, and I'm very fully aware now of what a hat change that means for a man. That means that he's taking off his hat now and becoming my husband at home. And so, it's grace on both sides as he sees me working even under him or with him as a team. But it's a lot of grace and forgiveness over the years because in the early years as you're raising children, there might be unmet expectations is something I wrote down because I feel like as I think back to this pursuer of God and who I married and I remember those early years thinking, well, wow, he's not leading in devotions in the family. And I'm kind of struggling to find, I need to, as the mom then, pick that up and make sure we're doing with the children some family devotions. Well, that can create controversy. It can be that I would be upset, but I needed to forgive him for the fact that he didn't mean to do that and abdicate that responsibility. He just didn't know. And so, there's so much about being graceful as a wife to say, okay, I understand. That wasn't maybe how you were raised, or you didn't see that modeled in the home. But this is what I would desire for our family. And so, you just keep working and you keep forgiving because we've been forgiven so much, as Jon said. So, we know that. And I think the other key thing then with forgiveness becomes no record keeping, just as love is in 1 Corinthians 13. It doesn't keep the record of wrongs. I don't need to sit around with my time and in my brain and think about how much I've forgiven Jon. I need to think about the fact that God's forgiven so much in me, and he has to forgive me all the time. So, you're on this equal footing with forgiveness rather than trying to harbor a record of wrongs.   Laura Dugger: (40:14 - 40:40) Well, and I think you bring up examples for how it works in our families as well with children. And so, it's clear you two have such a solid marriage and you also have a thriving relationship with your adult children and your grandchildren and all their families. So, I think you just have a lot that you could teach us about raising a family as well. What are you so thankful that you did when your kids were living at home that you're now getting to see the payoff as they're adults?   Jon Rocke: (40:16 - 41:43) We literally grew up with our kids. So sorry for our kids that they had to, you know, grow up with their mom and dad. But that's been a lot of fun too because we did a lot of play. Again, these are just little things for us, these little words. So, as the kids were young, we used to, something that bothered them is I would tell them pretty plainly that I love mom most. And so, kids will always try to drive a wedge between mom and dad. That's just part of the fallen nature of kids. And so, we really communicated early. Our kids will tell you that was a hard lesson for them to learn that they didn't quite understand at that age, right? But they've really come to appreciate that in their own marriages. And then the other thing that we said was we choose you second. So, they knew we choose each other first because you're going to be gone someday and mom's not. And so, but we will always choose you second. So, friends were not a higher priority or social or hobby or anything. You know, the kids were always knew they were second. And so our kids are scattered all across, although we have Jamie and Jonathan here, one family here in Morton that we love to live life with. The others are gone, but I think we're still close in a lot of ways from that.   Jolene Rocke: (41:45 - 45:27) Yeah, I think we're a close family because we have stuck together through not just the ups, but the downs, but we're fun loving. Jon and I like games. We like to do stuff, and we like to go places. We prioritized vacation when they were little so that we were all together in an intentional environment that was away from home. And so, we were together, they enjoyed going to Florida every year and it was always what we called just happenstances that were so adverse. It wasn't your ideal. And so, we did not have ideal things happen on any trip, actually, that we go on. So, what we decided to call them is adventures. So, we intentionally took adverse situations, whether that's a flat tire, going to Florida with all the kids and it's the middle of the night and we're all sitting at a gas station on the curb waiting for the next tire to get fixed. It's just, we just always called them adventures and I'm not sorry for that. That's something our kids are passing on to their kids when things happen. Our son in particular, Jordan, his family seems to have a lot of adventures, like Jon and I have had. And that's what they call them to their children. So, I'm not sorry for the word adventure. Jon taught me a saying that he used to say, you love your children, even if you don't like them or you will lose them. And that was really important in the teenage years. When one of our children was struggling in junior high, I knew even if I didn't like the way this one was acting, I needed to just keep loving them as scripture says, right? Not if they're perfect, but all the time. And so, we didn't lose her through that time, I think because there was so much intentional loving beyond the liking. The other thing that I would just mention with that to encourage any, any mom or dad, I picked up the book, The Five Love Languages by Gary Chapman and had this daughter read it with me so that we can learn, how do we love each other? Well, through this time when it feels like we don't really like each other that well. So, well, wow. I had no idea. It was physical touch for you. And I, I thought it was the acts of service. And you would notice that I picked up your room because I knew you had a hard day in a test at school. Well, there was never any knowledge or awareness that I did that for her. But whenever I put my arms around her and gave her a giant hug and wouldn't let her go until she melted in my arms, I realized, yes, that's what she, that's how I can love her best.   Laura Dugger: (45:27 - 45:50) That is awesome to hear that story. It is helpful to have actionable things that we can replicate. And so, I am going to link in the show notes to a few of our episodes that may be beneficial. If people want to take that concept a step further, Dr. Gary Chapman has been a previous guest. I'll link to those. And then also Katie Mueller talked about traveling with your family and the lessons that the Lord teaches his children about traveling in the Bible and how that applies to us. That's great. So, if you're willing, will you share anything more about the honeymoon? I'm so curious now.   Jon Rocke: (45:27 - 46:35) We will. I feel like we're taking too much time here.   Jolene Rocke: (46:35 - 46:36) I don't know, but well, we knew that this was setting the tone for marriage as far as adventures.   Jon Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) But well, the very first off we, we got on a plane. So, we got married on a Sunday and we were flying out down to Florida on Sunday night. We got to Atlanta where we were supposed to connect to another plane. We were supposed to go to Fort Myers, Florida and there had been a storm and, and they were rushing to get us on the right flights or to get us to the next flight. And they put us on the wrong plane. You know, this was back in the day where that could happen. Couldn't happen today, but put us on the wrong plane. We ended up in Melbourne, Florida at midnight last flight of the night. You know, we're newlyweds. We're supposed to be, you know, on our honeymoon. They put us up at a Holiday Inn Express with the crew and said, you know, we'll get you out a flight. You have to be up at 4 a.m. And so, you know, I was, our first night was not necessarily what you would, you know, call the most romantic night that we could have. And then do you want to tell the second story of our honeymoon?   Jolene Rocke: (46:36 - 46:37) The canoe trip.   Jon Rocke: (46:37 - 46:37) Yeah.   Jolene Rocke: (46:37 - 47:28) The canoe trip is, I have such bad allergies to many things. And so, Jon knew that because we tried to go horseback riding and I thought I'd be okay because it was outdoors, but the dander on the horse made me just blow up into a big ball on my face. And so, he realized how much I have a problem with allergies, but we decided to go canoeing in a very narrow mangrove swamp. That was really depleted in, in its depth that day. And so, we were canoeing along, but we, we got into the side of the mangrove trees and out came a Hornets, Hornets out of this giant nest and stung me all over my back.   Jon Rocke: (47:28 - 47:50) And so Jon went into, I'm like thinking that my six day, you know, marriage is over. My wife, who's so allergic, we're half hour out on our journey and I'm, she's like going to die on the spot. Cause I figured if she's so allergic to animals, then this many, you know, bee stings or wasp stings, she's, you know, she's dead.   Jolene Rocke: (47:52 - 48:12) So he jumps, jumps out. Yeah. First, the truth is he took my top off and started taking mud from the bottom of the creek and, just plasters me with mud on my back. And then he jumps out of the canoe and starts running the, the canoe. Cause it was pretty shallow.   Jon Rocke: (48:12 - 48:31) I decided it was going to be quicker to get her back in time. I figured I had about 30 minutes, you know, to, to try to get her to some medical attention. And so, yeah, so I'm running the canoe back instead of paddling it. Cause I knew I could get faster. Well, then I cut my foot on a shoal and we're a mess.   Jolene Rocke: (48:31 - 48:37) I mean, he had it. What? Like six-inch stitches. So, we ended up in the ER here.   Jon Rocke: (48:37 - 48:38) Yeah.   Jolene Rocke: (48:38 - 48:52) Both of us with me, with stings, Jon, with a cut. And, and that was just the start of the honeymoon that we called a giant adventure adventure since it wasn't great.   Jon Rocke: (48:52 - 48:55) It's been a 44-year adventure.   Laura Dugger: (48:55 - 49:15) You did start with quite the adventure. I love that. And I think the husbands' listening will appreciate, of course you took their top off first.   Jon Rocke: (49:03 - 49:04) That's right.   Jolene Rocke: (49:05 - 49:07) It was a little embarrassing.   Jon Rocke: (49:08 - 49:10) It was a good thing. Nobody else.   Jolene Rocke: (49:10 - 49:15) Nobody else.   Laura Dugger: (49:15 - 49:25) Sorry. I had to tease on that part, but through various seasons, how did you prioritize one another above your kids, your career and your own families of origin?   Jon Rocke: (49:25 - 50:35) We just knew we had to have time. So, a couple of things. I mean, we had a fortunate built in mechanism too, to take trips together. So, within our family business, we had conferences and such that we had to attend. And so, we made that a priority that we were going to do those together. I wasn't going to just go by myself. And so, a couple of times a year, and now that we're working together, it can feel like life blurs between everything. So, while we're at home, we're still talking about work and we're still dealing with ministry. And the other thing is with our kids away, a lot of our trip time is spent with our kids. So, we have to make that, that's gotta be a priority, but we realized we still need just our time away. and when we got, we went down to Florida and we just said, okay, no work talk for these five days, you know, no work talk. And it was pretty fun because most of the time Jolene broke that rule. And I would say, wait a minute, no work talk.   Jolene Rocke: (50:36 - 50:36) It's true.   Jon Rocke: (50:37 - 51:09) It's very true. But those, so trips were a big thing for us, and they don't have to be a big deal trip, but a weekend away to break the routine. You know, the example of that was, that's why God created festivals and holidays were to break routine and to have a stop in our everyday lives. And so, he knew we needed that to reconnect with him. Well, we know we need that in our marriages is to break the routine.   Jolene Rocke: (51:10 - 52:17) Very intentionally. Jon was wise enough to know we needed that as even as young as he was. Can you imagine the volumes of love that that spoke to me, that he wanted me to go with him on the trips. So that meant so much to me. And it still does today because he always wants me to go with him. And then I, I just have over the years, like when the kids were at home, that was days of rest for me when he was in meetings. But as I started growing too, as a person and not needing as much rest, I also would go into all the meetings because I liked the learning. But even as we went through college, like I just was always a part of the learning. And, and I liked that, but Jon included me. That said a lot to me.   Laura Dugger: (52:18 - 52:25) And I love your companionship, how you prioritize that. What advice do you have for all of us married couples as we seek to grow as one rather than start to grow parallel or even worse, start to grow apart from one another?   Jon Rocke: (52:18 - 52:47) Yeah, I think find things to do together. That's part of how even the biking, the tandem thing came about. Cause if we went out on bikes on our individual bikes, then I'm like, I'm wanting to run ahead. Well, you know, and then, and she's like, you know, you're not getting very much exercise or whatever the case may be. But then on a tandem, we could accomplish everything together. And so, finding some of those things.   Jolene Rocke: (52:47 - 54:56) So there's seasons of time when you're raising your children, like that, Jon was biking by himself and with some other men in a fast pace for extreme exercise. And I was doing my thing. And so, I'm not saying that hobbies apart from one another are negative, but for us, they've been mostly together. And so that just means that even there was a period that yes, Jon would go out golfing, not in excess, but when our kids were around and little, I think I was communicating even in that, that you don't just go off golfing every Saturday and leave your wife with the kids on a Saturday because you now that's your day off work. No, it's, we never get a day off work. So, you need to kick in at home too. So, there was this balance, I think is a really good word for how do you, how do you do like even individual hobbies and exercise even, but then mostly we're always trying to figure out how we can do things together. So, taking a back seat, literally on a tandem bike and knowing that that was going to help our marriage to be together. I also said recently now in a decade ago, I will learn how to golf. And so that, that just meant, again, I have no, no interest that much in golfing. I thought I loved riding the car around and being outside, but now it's like, yes, I will learn to golf if that means that that's another hobby and a sport and an activity that we can do together. So, we started a Friday night golf time, just Jon and I, it's a date night of golf and Dairy Queen supper. We call it Dairy Queen supper because we just don't eat supper, but we eat Dairy Queen after we go. So there again, there's just like, what are, what can we do together? And we're still doing date nights because it's just, we actually are really good friends still.   Jon Rocke: (54:57 - 55:51) Well, I think like I say, every season has been different for us. There was a time where kids were intense and Joe was a phenomenal mom and, was totally engaged in that. And you're in your career phase too. And so, all those things are competing. Well, then we've come back in the last five years and now we work together. So that's a different whole different dynamic. And so that's why we needed, you know, yeah, we need a golf and Dairy Queen night because we just need to get away from the intensity of our work relationship, you know, and take that break on our tandems. We usually ride for breakfast. So, most things have to do with food. It's not about exercise. It's about how to eat. So that's kind of just part of what we do.   Laura Dugger: (55:51 - 56:19) I love it though. That's an interest for all people. It's something that we have to do multiple times a day. Well, what do you want to leave us with? Whether it's a challenge or scripture, it can be anything, but how would you like to wind down our time together today?   Jolene Rocke: (56:19 - 56:30) I'm going to just say to encourage everyone. Our marriage has taken compromise and it's taken communication and it pays off in the end.   Jon Rocke: (56:19 - 57:11) You know, Ephesians 5 is really an important understanding that it's submitting to each other. The idea of wives submit to your husband, you're not catching the whole picture of that. If that's what your focus is, because it's husband loves you, love your wives as Christ loved the church. And so, and it starts the whole section off with submit to one another. And so, we have to be just intentional and committed. One of my favorite sayings is from Augustine, who says, when he was in prayer one time says to God, “Command what you will, but give what you command.” And so, when I think about our marriage, that's what grace is all about. Yes, it takes intentionality and commitment, but that only comes by his grace.   Jolene Rocke: (57:11 - 57:55) And one other thing that I thought of is that we always taught our kids to remember whose they are. And that just means that if you do that within a marriage too, and you're remembering that you're the Lord's, you're made in his image, then you relate and you will love the other one better. Even as you know your identity in Christ first, you will love your mate better.   Laura Dugger: (57:55 - 58:05) Amen. And you too may know we're called The Savvy Sauce because savvy is synonymous with practical knowledge. And so, as my final question for both of you today, what is your savvy sauce?   Jon Rocke: (57:56 - 58:07) You know, I just say submission is a good thing. It's not associated that way, but in a marriage it's such a good thing.   Jolene Rocke: (58:08 - 59:13) So that's both submitting to each other, not just the wife being clamped down. But our savvy sauce would be that sacrifice and submission are good things. They're not bad words. So, in our experience, a savvy sauce for our 44-year-old marriage is that sacrifice and submission have been very good things on both of our parts.   Laura Dugger: (59:13 - 59:20) Well, you clearly live this out, and you've been great role models to Mark and to me and our family. You love one another with such an intensity, and you love your Lord that way, and you love your children that way in your community. And I just see the way that He's had this ripple out from being intentional in the most key important parts of life, and that He's really blessed you in that, but He's also blessed all of us around you. So, thank you for sharing your journey with us. Thank you so much for being my guest.   Jolene Rocke: (59:20 - 59:22) It's been so great to be here with you. Thanks for asking, Laura.   Jon Rocke: (59:13 - 59:27) Yeah, it's been a privilege for us just to take the time to reflect again and realize the challenges, but really just celebrate what God has done through His grace in us and our marriage. So, thanks.   Laura Dugger: (59:27 - 1:03:10) One more thing before you go, have you heard the term gospel before? It simply means good news. And I want to share the best news with you, but it starts with the bad news.   Every single one of us were born sinners, but Christ desires to rescue us from our sin, which is something we cannot do for ourselves. This means there's absolutely no chance we can make it to heaven on our own. So, for you and for me, it means we deserve death, and we can never pay back the sacrifice we owe to be saved.   We need a savior, but God loved us so much. He made a way for his only son to willingly die in our place as the perfect substitute. This gives us hope of life forever in right relationship with him.   That is good news. Jesus lived the perfect life. We could never live and died in our place for our sin.   This was God's plan to make a way to reconcile with us so that God can look at us and see Jesus. We can be covered and justified through the work Jesus finished. If we choose to receive what he has done for us, Romans 10:9 says, “that if you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.”   So, you pray with me now. Heavenly father, thank you for sending Jesus to take our place. I pray someone today right now is touched and chooses to turn their life over to you.   Will you clearly guide them and help them take their next step in faith to declare you as Lord of their life? We trust you to work and change lives now for eternity. In Jesus name we pray.   Amen. If you prayed that prayer, you are declaring him for me. So, me for him, you get the opportunity to live your life for him.   And at this podcast, we're called The Savvy Sauce for a reason. We want to give you practical tools to implement the knowledge you have learned. So, you're ready to get started.   First, tell someone, say it out loud, get a Bible. The first day I made this decision, my parents took me to Barnes and Noble and let me choose my own Bible. I selected the Quest NIV Bible and I love it.   You can start by reading the book of John. Also get connected locally, which just means tell someone who's a part of a church in your community that you made a decision to follow Christ. I'm assuming they will be thrilled to talk with you about further steps such as going to church and getting connected to other believers to encourage you.   We want to celebrate with you too. So, feel free to leave a comment for us here. If you did make a decision to follow Christ, we also have show notes included where you can read scripture that describes this process.   And finally, be encouraged. Luke 15:10 says, “in the same way, I tell you, there is rejoicing in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner who repents.” The heavens are praising with you for your decision today.   And if you've already received this good news, I pray you have someone to share it with. You are loved and I look forward to meeting you here next time.

The physical evidence is now overwhelming. Columbus police confirmed the murder weapon was recovered from Dr. Michael McKee's Chicago penthouse eleven days after Spencer and Monique Tepe were shot dead in their Columbus home. NIBIN matched shell casings from the bedroom to a firearm seized from his residence. Multiple weapons were recovered. His alibi collapsed before his arrest. ATF picked him up at a Chick-fil-A seven minutes from the hospital where he worked overnight shifts. Surveillance footage places him near the Tepe home during the murder window. Police labeled this a "targeted domestic violence attack."But the paper trail tells a different story than the family's. Rob Misleh appeared on Good Morning America and said Monique told him McKee was emotionally abusive during their brief marriage. "She just had to get away from him." He said she was willing to do anything to escape, that the family knew about the torment. Misleh called McKee a monster, said Monique never spoke his name after the divorce—only "her ex-husband." She was always worried. But nobody thought he'd actually do it.The 2017 divorce documents show none of this. No domestic violence allegations. No protection orders. No restraining orders. Just "incompatibility." Attorney Eric Faddis explains why so many victims choose silence—the calculation that documenting abuse creates more danger than it prevents. He breaks down how the legal system treats emotional abuse compared to physical abuse and what options exist for victims who recognize their own situation in Monique's story.Eight years passed between the divorce and the murders. Then in June 2025, something brought McKee and Monique back into the court system. Six months later, she was dead. Eric examines what that timeline suggests and where the system's limits are when a threat was never officially recorded. McKee faces two counts of aggravated murder with prior calculation and design. Death penalty eligible. He plans to plead not guilty.#TeepeMurders #MichaelMcKee #MoniqueTepe #SpencerTepe #MurderWeapon #TrueCrimeToday #EricFaddis #DomesticViolence #NIBIN #EmotionalAbuseJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Rob Misleh said something on Good Morning America that stops you cold: "She just had to get away from him." He said Monique told him Dr. Michael McKee was emotionally abusive. That she was willing to do anything to escape. That many in the family knew about the torment. Misleh called McKee a monster, said Monique never spoke his name after the 2017 divorce—only "her ex-husband." She was always worried. But nobody thought he'd actually do it.Now look at the court records. No domestic violence allegations. No protection orders. No restraining orders. The divorce paperwork says "incompatibility." That's it. If you read those documents blind, you'd think this was the most amicable split in Ohio history. The family knew the truth. The legal system never did.Police just confirmed the murder weapon was recovered from McKee's Chicago penthouse. NIBIN matched shell casings from the Tepe bedroom to a firearm seized from his residence. His alibi collapsed before his arrest. ATF picked him up at a Chick-fil-A seven minutes from the hospital where he worked. Surveillance footage places him near the Tepe home during the murder window. He allegedly drove 300 miles to execute his ex-wife and her husband while their two children slept in separate rooms.Attorney Eric Faddis examines why so many victims choose not to document abuse in divorce proceedings—the fear that it makes things worse, the belief that staying quiet means staying safe. He breaks down how the legal system treats emotional abuse compared to physical abuse and whether it carries less weight in court. Then there's June 2025: eight years after the divorce, something brought McKee and Monique back into the court system. Six months later, she was dead. For anyone who recognizes their own situation in Monique's story, Eric offers guidance on what steps victims can take when the system wasn't built to see the threat coming.#MoniqueTepe #SpencerTepe #MichaelMcKee #EricFaddis #DomesticViolence #EmotionalAbuse #HiddenKillers #MurderWeapon #NIBIN #TeepeMurdersJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Columbus police just confirmed it: the murder weapon was inside Michael McKee's Chicago penthouse. NIBIN matched shell casings from the Tepe bedroom to a firearm recovered from his residence. Multiple weapons seized. His alibi fell apart before his arrest at a Chick-fil-A seven minutes from the hospital where he worked overnight shifts. Surveillance footage places him at the scene. The charges are aggravated murder with prior calculation and design—death penalty eligible.But the story the family is telling doesn't match a single document in the court system. Rob Misleh went on Good Morning America and said what the legal record never captured: Monique told him McKee was emotionally abusive during their seven-month marriage. "She just had to get away from him." Misleh called McKee a monster. Said Monique never spoke his name after the divorce—only "her ex-husband." That she was always worried. The family knew. They watched her look over her shoulder for eight years.The 2017 divorce paperwork? No domestic violence allegations. No protection orders. Just "incompatibility." The system saw nothing because nothing was ever documented. Attorney Eric Faddis joins us live to explain why victims make that choice—the fear that documentation escalates danger, the hope that silence buys safety. He breaks down how courts treat emotional abuse versus physical abuse and whether the distinction matters when someone's dead.Then there's the question nobody's answered: what happened in June 2025? Eight years after the divorce, something brought McKee and Monique back into the court system. Six months later, she and Spencer were murdered while their children slept down the hall. Eric examines whether the legal system can be weaponized to force contact with an ex-spouse—and what that pattern looks like before it turns fatal.#McKeeTepe #MichaelMcKee #MoniqueTepe #SpencerTepe #MurderWeapon #HiddenKillersLive #EricFaddis #DomesticViolence #EmotionalAbuse #LiveBreakdownJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Columbus police finally spoke. Sixteen days after Spencer and Monique Tepe were found shot dead, Chief Elaine Bryant confirmed investigators have a preliminary ballistic link between firearms recovered from Dr. Michael McKee's property and the murder scene. The connection came through NIBIN—the National Integrated Ballistic Information Network—which matches bullets and casings to weapons across federal databases.Attorney Eric Faddis explains what "preliminary" means in this context and how significant ballistics evidence becomes when combined with surveillance footage and vehicle records already tying McKee to the scene. Police have labeled this a targeted domestic violence attack. The charges were upgraded from murder to premeditated aggravated murder—death penalty eligible in Ohio. Eric breaks down the legal threshold for proving "prior calculation and design."The family's voice emerged today too. Rob Misleh, Spencer's brother-in-law, appeared on Good Morning America and described the abuse Monique endured during her marriage to McKee. "She just had to get away from him." He said the family spent eight years aware of the torment—watching Monique rebuild her life with Spencer while always looking over their shoulders.McKee allegedly drove from Illinois to Ohio and killed both Monique and Spencer while their two young children slept down the hall. He was arrested at a Chick-fil-A in Rockford, Illinois ten days later. He waived extradition but remains in Illinois awaiting transfer. His attorney says he'll plead not guilty.Chief Bryant indicated police are withholding evidence details to avoid jeopardizing the conviction. Eric Faddis maps out what defense strategies remain when ballistics, surveillance, and vehicle records all point in the same direction. Over 1,000 people attended the funeral. Two children lost both parents in one night.#TeepeMurders #MichaelMcKee #SpencerTepe #MoniqueTepe #NIBIN #TrueCrimeToday #EricFaddis #BallisticsEvidence #DomesticViolence #ColumbusOhioJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

Police just connected the dots. Sixteen days after Spencer and Monique Tepe were found dead in their Columbus home, investigators announced they've recovered multiple firearms from Dr. Michael McKee's property—and one of those weapons has a preliminary ballistic match to the murder scene through NIBIN, the federal database that links bullets to guns across the country.McKee allegedly drove from Illinois to Ohio to kill his ex-wife Monique and her husband Spencer while their two young children slept feet away. Columbus Police Chief Elaine Bryant called it what it was: a targeted domestic violence attack. The charges have been upgraded to premeditated aggravated murder—death penalty eligible. Attorney Eric Faddis breaks down what "prior calculation and design" requires prosecutors to prove, and why this upgrade signals investigators may know more than they've revealed.The family broke their silence too. Rob Misleh, Spencer's brother-in-law, appeared on Good Morning America and described eight years of watching Monique try to escape McKee's abuse. "She just had to get away from him." He said the family knew the torment she endured. They spent years looking over their shoulders. Now two children are orphans and the threat the family always feared has been confirmed.McKee was arrested at a Chick-fil-A in Rockford, Illinois on January 10th. He waived extradition but remains in Illinois—transfer to Ohio reportedly won't happen by week's end. His attorney indicated he'll plead not guilty. Chief Bryant says police are withholding evidence details to protect the prosecution's case.Eric Faddis examines the legal road ahead: what defense strategies exist against ballistics evidence, surveillance footage, and vehicle records placing McKee at the scene. Ohio has an execution moratorium, but McKee could still receive a death sentence. Over 1,000 mourners said goodbye to Spencer and Monique. The evidence keeps building.#MichaelMcKee #SpencerTepe #MoniqueTepe #NIBIN #MurderWeapon #DomesticViolence #EricFaddis #HiddenKillers #ColumbusOhio #TeepeMurdersJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

In this episode, Bob and Linda unpack spiritual habits found in Scripture that quietly shape financial outcomes—habits that have nothing to do with spreadsheets or hustle culture, but everything to do with becoming the kind of person money can be trusted with.   These aren't the usual "Christian money tips." They're deeper.   And once you see them, you can't unsee them.    

Episode 344: Pizza Ovens and Food Confessions This episode of the Homeowner Show dives into a variety of topics, from a humorous take on a political video to a deep dive into the best chicken sandwiches and a detailed review of a new pizza oven. Political Humor and Current Events The hosts begin by discussing a recent video dropped by Donald Trump, finding humor in its content and the reactions to it. They touch upon the implications of such videos in the current political landscape. Food Confessions and Debates A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to a lively debate about chicken sandwiches. The hosts share their personal "food confessions," with one host declaring Popeyes chicken sandwich superior to Chick-fil-A's, citing specific aspects like the chicken's crispiness and the sauce. The discussion extends to a ranking of various chicken sandwich offerings, with Raising Cane's emerging as a surprising contender for the top spot. Homeowner Tips: Solar and Roofing The conversation shifts to practical homeowner advice with a spotlight on True Texas Solar and Roofing. They highlight ongoing incentives for solar installation and discuss various options, including Tesla's solar roof shingles, emphasizing their aesthetic appeal and durability. They also stress the importance of choosing reputable roofing professionals, noting the lack of licensing in Texas and advising listeners to be wary of unqualified contractors. Culinary Adventures and New Gadgets The hosts share their recent dining experiences, including a decadent meal at The Refuge featuring a tomahawk steak and lobster. This leads into a detailed review of a new Chefmate electric pizza oven. The host expresses initial skepticism about an electric oven but is ultimately impressed by its ease of use, consistent cooking, and the delicious results. They walk through the process of making pizza dough from scratch using a specialized kit and discuss the pros and cons of various dough-making methods. The review also addresses a negative Amazon review, humorously dissecting the complaints about the oven's controls. Key Takeaways: Political Commentary: A lighthearted take on a recent political video and its implications. Chicken Sandwich Wars: A passionate debate and ranking of popular chicken sandwiches. Homeowner Solutions: Information on solar incentives, roofing contractor selection, and durable roofing options. Pizza Oven Review: An in-depth look at the Chefmate electric pizza oven, its features, performance, and ease of use, alongside a discussion of homemade pizza dough. Restaurant Recommendations: Mentions of The Refuge and Hearsay for dining experiences. Buy a Homeowners Show T-Shirt!   Subscribe to our YouTube Channel   The Homeowners Show Website The Homeowners Show Facebook Page Instagram @homeownersshow Twitter @HomeownersThe   Info@homeownersshow.com    Sustained Growth Solutions – Design a lead generation system specifically for your business so that you never have to search for leads again! We are a full digital marketing agency.

Breaking down the Tepe murder case. Vascular surgeon Michael McKee, 39, is charged with two counts of premeditated aggravated murder in the shooting deaths of his ex-wife Monique Tepe and her husband Spencer Tepe in Columbus, Ohio on December 30th, 2025. Their two young children — ages one and four — were found unharmed in the home.McKee and Monique divorced in 2017 after a seven-month marriage. Family members describe the relationship as emotionally abusive, with death threats and lasting psychological damage. Monique's brother-in-law Rob Misleh told reporters she was "terrified" of McKee for years and "would talk quite often about how much he messed with her mental health."In the months before the murders, McKee was actively evading medical malpractice lawsuits in Nevada. Attorney Dan Laird documented nine failed attempts to serve him — fake addresses, a fax machine phone number, and colleagues who said he'd "just disappeared." His Nevada license had expired in June 2025. Meanwhile, Monique had remarried, had two children, and just celebrated her fifth anniversary with Spencer.Police tracked McKee through neighborhood surveillance and linked a firearm from his Chicago residence to shell casings at the scene. He was arrested at a Chick-fil-A in Rockford, Illinois and waived extradition. He plans to plead not guilty. Columbus Police Chief Elaine Bryant called it a "domestic violence-related attack." The case continues to develop.#SpencerTepe #MoniqueTepe #TepeMurders #MichaelMcKee #TrueCrimeToday #BreakingCrime #ColumbusOhio #DomesticViolence #SurgeonArrested #OhioHomicideJoin Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/@hiddenkillerspodInstagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspodX Twitter https://x.com/tonybpodListen Ad-Free On Apple Podcasts Here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/true-crime-today-premium-plus-ad-free-advance-episode/id1705422872This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.

This is part one of a two-part recapMadison has the ladies of Southern Charm over to her new house for a pajama party, but the guys crash it and Austen unites them all against Craig. Also, Salley gets desperation chicks who chirp “pick me” and still loses the guy. *by Ben Mandelker del Toro **Happy Bagel Friday To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This is part 2 of a 2-part recapMadison has the ladies of Southern Charm over to her new house for a pajama party, but the guys crash it and Austen unites them all against Craig. Also, Salley gets desperation chicks who chirp “pick me” and still loses the guy. *by Ben Mandelker del Toro **Happy Bagel Friday To watch this recap on video, listen to our bonus episodes, and participate in live episode threads, go to Patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens. Find bonus episodes at patreon.com/watchwhatcrappens and follow us on Instagram @watchwhatcrappens @ronniekaram @benmandelker Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.